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cRPG => Game Admin Feedback => Topic started by: Earthdforce on October 04, 2011, 12:20:04 am
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:D
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Prob the worst of all the admins. Impotent admin that lets repeat offenders off with slaps on the wrist. Immature and takes any suggestions as personal attacks against him. His actions are driven by what will make him popular, instead of whats best for the community.
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Selected derp, I haven't seen you take any real action when action needs to be taken. No offense.
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Yeahh. I haven't been very active recently what with school and all, but I hope to change that in the near future.
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homo bundle of sticks because of the pokemon avatars and the attitude that being admin in this game is the peak of life
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homo bundle of sticks because of the pokemon avatars and the attitude that being admin in this game is the peak of life
So...
This board is for admin feedback. You can post feedback about any admin on any server but do not create multiple threads for the same admin. These threads are just for discussion - zerging a thread telling how some admin is EVIL and MEAN does not mean that admin will get fired.
Keep the discussion civil - behavior rules apply on this board just the same as on other boards. Excessive trolling will lead to warnings.
This means nothing to you? Don't tell me these "feedback" threads are going to turn into circuses like the ban threads do.
Thank you for your input LLJK_EAZIO_CROSSBOTORE.
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Do I really come off as power hungry? :(
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So...
This means nothing to you? Don't tell me these "feedback" threads are going to turn into circuses like the ban threads do.
Thank you for your input LLJK_EAZIO_CROSSBOTORE.
please contribute to the thread, this is off-topic nonsense right here
ON TOPIC: not power hungry, just kind of, too professional acting as an admin
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terrible admin because he has a eevee avatar instead of a scraggy avatar
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remove his admin forever
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Do I really come off as power hungry? :(
I feel brutalized by your adminship. Please be less totalitariat and more communistic - let people decide for themselves whether they should be banned.
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I feel brutalized by your adminship. Please be less totalitariat and more communistic - let people decide for themselves whether they should be banned.
This aint no democracy!
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I vote no.
Recently, after Digglez provided negative feedback in this thread, Earthdforce gave him a full day ban for a pretty minor infraction with extenuating circumstances here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17692.0.html
Before bringing my complaint to this thread, I tried to talk some reason into him, without success, here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17700.0.html
Ironically, Digglez was commenting on actions taken to try and stop a malicious person from sabotaging the siege server.
I think a regular admin could have recognized that in that particular case, a player was having to act to protect the server (someone destroying defensive deployables and opening gates to let enemies in, thereby ruining siege, with no admins and no vote-bans to stop him).
Was Digglez supposed to just let the person keep ruining siege rounds? For how long? Until an admin logs on, which could be hours later? He did what any siege player would eventually be forced to do. (I personally ran in front of Le_Beaver repeatedly in order to interrupt his obvious attempt to open the gate again but I can't keep that up forever. We tried every available means to get the message across before Digglez finally hit him with the pointy side of a stick. Earthdforce gave Digglez a ban for this -- one team-wounding incident, which frankly someone had to do.)
Just to be clear, I'm not upset that Digglez got banned.
I'm upset that Earthdforce singlehandedly, without thinking, created a precedent:
If no admins are around, trolls are allowed to ruin your server and there is nothing you can do about it.
(If you try to rescue the server and Earthdforce hears about it, he will ban you.)
Admins, like judges, must take circumstances into account and adjust sentences accordingly.
I will say that Earthdforce does try to be a solid admin but I don't think he's bringing much thought to the table. He's looking at a list of punishments and dolling them out, like a robot. At the very least, I feel Earthdforce could use A Talking To about the real objective of admins. It's not "by the book law enforcement". The real goal is to secure a good community, which I do not feel Earthdforce, with his particular style of enforcement, is doing. Flagrant team-wounding in order to ruin a server may call for longer sentences than is set in the guidelines. Measured team-wounding as a last resort in order to discourage a troll from ruining the siege server has to be allowed, when no "legal" means of dealing with him are available.
Earthdforce needs to understand this difference if he's going to be a good admin.
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Was Digglez supposed to just let the person keep ruining siege rounds? For how long? Until an admin logs on, which could be hours later? He did what any siege player would eventually be forced to do. (I personally ran in front of Le_Beaver repeatedly in order to interrupt his obvious attempt to open the gate again but I can't keep that up forever. We tried every available means to get the message across before Digglez finally hit him with the pointy side of a stick. Earthdforce gave Digglez a ban for this -- one team-wounding incident, which frankly someone had to do.)
Earthdforce needs to understand this difference if he's going to be a good admin.
Yes Digglez was. Until it was taken care of. Yep, pretty much.
There are many, many ways to get a hold of an admin. Alt+tab and hop in IRC, message an admin on the forums or steam. Or heaven forbid, take screenshots and post it under ban requests. That is the point of having game admins. It may not always be possible for a situation to be taken care of, but intentionally team killing and team wounding isn't a proper response. Breaking a rule to oppose the breaking of rules is asinine and stupid.
I'm upset that Earthdforce singlehandedly, without thinking, created a precedent:
If no admins are around, trolls are allowed to ruin your server and there is nothing you can do about it.
(If you try to rescue the server and Earthdforce hears about it, he will ban you.)
Enforcing a rule is not a precedent, look at any server where an admin enforces rules. Killing your teammates as opposed to trying to get an admin is not a proper response to "rescue the server." Digglez admitted to team killing and received a punishment fitting for the infraction. The person he team killed also received a punishment, a longer punishment than Digglez received.
To Slamz,
Admining is not an easy job. They are not paid to moderate the servers. Instead of playing and messing around like everyone else gets to, they have to be paying attention to everything happening to make sure rules are enforced. They can't get on a server or make a judgement call without being called a badmin. Even if their response is completely justified and supported. Without admins the servers would be 100 times worse. You have to take the bad with the good. Digglez received a 1 day ban for breaking the rules. The day ended, and he was allowed back in, problem solved.
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Killing your teammates as opposed to trying to get an admin is not a proper response to "rescue the server." Digglez admitted to team killing and received a punishment fitting for the infraction. The person he team killed also received a punishment, a longer punishment than Digglez received.
I admitted to team wounding, not killing, get your facts straight. I've seen people get less ban time for multiple intentional team KILLINGS. Oh ya, lets not even mention the fact that punishment is completely subjective and there are no guidelines posted anywhere about punishment times.
A good admin would have recognized he was prejudiced against the player and let another admin handle it. That would have taken maturity to though, which Earthdforce clearly isnt. He jumped at the chance to ban someone he doesnt like, thats called abusing power.
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I admitted to team wounding, not killing, get your facts straight. I've seen people get less ban time for multiple intentional team KILLINGS. Oh ya, lets not even mention the fact that punishment is completely subjective and there are no guidelines posted anywhere about punishment times.
A good admin would have recognized he was prejudiced against the player and let another admin handle it. That would have taken maturity to though, which Earthdforce clearly isnt. He jumped at the chance to ban someone he doesnt like, thats called abusing power.
You had to go 24 hours without playing?!
Heaven forbid!
(I'm going to leave this thread now. I can't keep mature about this situation. The whole thing is so stupid).
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I admitted to team wounding, not killing, get your facts straight. I've seen people get less ban time for multiple intentional team KILLINGS. Oh ya, lets not even mention the fact that punishment is completely subjective and there are no guidelines posted anywhere about punishment times.
A good admin would have recognized he was prejudiced against the player and let another admin handle it. That would have taken maturity to though, which Earthdforce clearly isnt. He jumped at the chance to ban someone he doesnt like, thats called abusing power.
You aren't exactly prom king with the player base in general, Digglez. Also, while the day ban was pretty extreme, I probably would have given you more than an hour ban being that there are no set in stone guide lines for how long bans can be given out and going by your critiques in other posts about admins, you really ought to know better when it comes to understanding and following the rules.
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You aren't exactly prom king with the player base in general, Digglez. Also, while the day ban was pretty extreme, I probably would have given you more than an hour ban being that there are no set in stone guide lines for how long bans can be given out and going by your critiques in other posts about admins, you really ought to know better when it comes to understanding and following the rules.
I fail to see how giving honest critics of admins has anything to do with me knowing the rules, actually quite the opposite. By knowing the rules very well I can recognize which admins choose to look the other way. I know the rules very well and I uphold & defend them, everyone knows I'm a teamplayer (which is why I got banned, I was helping defend my team and was HONEST). I report offenders on a regular basis, especially on siege where team play matters alot more. This wouldnt have to be the case if admin was given to clans that actually play there.
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Friendly reminder that this is a feed back thread.
I would like to point out that even if someone were to give me harsh criticism (as long as it does not break the board rules as in contain ridiculous personal insults) I would not want anyone defending me in my thread.
I like Earth a lot, but I don't think the point of these threads (as much as they are bullet magnets for trolls) are to have people critique the critique. I think that is for the Original poster, yes?
These are not "trials" these are merely Suggestion Boxes. If you think a "Suggestion" has merit, act accordingly. If you do not think a "Suggestion" has merit, ignore it.
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Gee, I feel pretty popular right now
EDIT: Not that I don't like all this negative attention, but can yall please give me some constructive feedback? Ya know, so I can stop being such a badmin? :lol:
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Gee, I feel pretty popular right now
EDIT: Not that I don't like all this negative attention, but can yall please give me some constructive feedback? Ya know, so I can stop being such a badmin? :lol:
Easy. Don't give 1 day ban to people that teamkill/teamhit multiple people and then give the exact same punishment to a guy who hits a friendly once to stop him from fucking the server up for the rest.
Scale your penalties according to how severe the action was and don't punish people who had a pretty good reason to do it as much as you punish people who are just dicks.
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Easy. Don't give 1 day ban to people that teamkill/teamhit multiple people and then give the exact same punishment to a guy who hits a friendly once to stop him from fucking the server up for the rest.
Scale your penalties according to how severe the action was and don't punish people who had a pretty good reason to do it as much as you punish people who are just dicks.
For the record, this is probably the first 1 day ban I've given. Just because another admin gave a ban for x amount of days to y player for z punishment does not mean that EVERY SINGLE other admin would have reacted the same way. Sure, perhaps my fellow admins wouldn't have given digglez the same length as I did, but that matters not. I gave him the one day ban and I stood by it. He did his time and now he's free to play. As for this topic, I'm done discussing it, accuse me of something else from now on.
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I fail to see how giving honest critics of admins has anything to do with me knowing the rules, actually quite the opposite. By knowing the rules very well I can recognize which admins choose to look the other way. I know the rules very well and I uphold & defend them, everyone knows I'm a teamplayer (which is why I got banned, I was helping defend my team and was HONEST). I report offenders on a regular basis, especially on siege where team play matters alot more. This wouldn't have to be the case if admin was given to clans that actually play there.
In your case, your critiques of admins definitely show that you have an understanding of how the rules work, being that you give legitimate complaints, rather than "said admin is a fucking douchebag",etc. You've played in both the community servers and the official servers long enough to have a great understanding of what is right and what is wrong.
You're a pretty honest player, and I can understand your frustration, as no admins really do play on siege, and for the most part, you do uphold the rules, however, you know that one of the most obvious things for an admin to see is a blatant TK, which is usually what a retaliation TK turns out to be. I can't speak for earth, but I know most admins on here, myself included do our best to make sure griefers aren't around on the server ruining the game for others. Being that admins are getting accepted with little to any prejudice, i'd suggest you apply for admin on siege. I personally think you'd make for a good admin.
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Knowing the rules is probably an important thing as an admin, considering you are supposed to uphold them and all.
Also muting someone for making a valid criticism is bad form and supports the view that you are a power tripping admin that other people seem to have.
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Just to be clear, the whole csite rule has been discussed so many times it's fuzzy in my head...in fact, there are csites blocking the flag right now and I'm not doing anything about it.
EDIT: So yeah, I was wrong. No one was banned, but I'm apologizing anyways. Sorry for all that.
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Knowing the rules is probably an important thing as an admin, considering you are supposed to uphold them and all.
Also muting someone for making a valid criticism is bad form and supports the view that you are a power tripping admin that other people seem to have.
Wait?!? admins arent humans? and cant make any mistakes?!?!?
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I like your avatar. You could be more of a hardass. I like cats.
^sandwich style critique
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I like your avatar. You could be more of a hardass. I like cats.
^sandwich style critique
Cat avatars = Best admins.
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Cat avatars = Best admins.
then why was nuffen slapped around like a dirty whore
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then why was nuffen slapped around like a dirty whore
I said best, not most popular :P
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You try very hard to keep the server clean of idiots, and you are usually considerate towards people whom may have been unfairly accused.
I have been frequently ignored and thrown aside by quite a few admins (though I understand there are more important issues), and you are not one of them. I respect you for this.
Asking the community how they view your performance is also very wise in my opinion. Too many have developed this sense of being too good for judgement, yet for us to improve we must subject ourselves to it. Yes there will be haters, but it is good to know why they are hating. A key concept of being a critical thinker, is being able to reflect upon your own and everyone elses opinions.
Keep up the good work, and continue to evolve your methods on what is best for the community.
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Asking the community how they view your performance is also very wise in my opinion. Too many have developed this sense of being too good for judgement, yet for us to improve we must subject ourselves to it.
I am too good for judgement. True facts.
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I would of voted derp... but the no votes were beating the yes.
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Not a bad admin, keep it up. Ok, where's my cookies?
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I would consider you a good admin if you protected all players, not just the KDR whores like Canary protects.
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Honestly, what does that even mean, Arys?
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Honestly, what does that even mean, Arys?
Everyone that's not him? :D