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Title: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 17, 2013, 10:53:48 pm
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/sverige/ett-hakkors-till-kaffet-nagon

Seriously? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Panos_ on November 17, 2013, 10:54:21 pm
english translation please??
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 17, 2013, 11:02:34 pm
Quote from: Sabjorn on November 17, 2013, 10:54:21 pm
english translation please??

They are just traditional small bakery goods that happen to form a shape close enough to swastika if you're anal reporter and want to raise hell about nothing (some other newspaper published a recipe and pictures of the cakes).

I eat those cakes every Christmas and never think about swastikas when making them. Just got to admire some people's imagination...
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bavvoz on November 18, 2013, 07:18:08 am
Sweden in a nutshell. Theres a bunch of ppl searching for every excuse to complain about something. Probably the same kind of ppl calling their children "hen" and saying theres no such thing as he or she.

Thats what u get when idiots are given space in media :D
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: LordBerenger on November 19, 2013, 09:04:30 am
Quote from: Son Of Odin on November 17, 2013, 11:02:34 pm
They are just traditional small bakery goods that happen to form a shape close enough to swastika if you're anal reporter and want to raise hell about nothing (some other newspaper published a recipe and pictures of the cakes).

I eat those cakes every Christmas and never think about swastikas when making them. Just got to admire some people's imagination...

Yeh...they just randomly happened to form a shape close enough to cute puppy lol.

Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2013, 07:27:41 pm
Yeah, sweden is fucked up, we used to have a icecream called nogger black which got removed after a time because it was accused of being racist. Fair enough, but now the icecream "88an" or something like "88th" in english is being accused of being chocolate chip cookie because H is the 8th letter in the alphabet and so 2 8's = HH = heil einstein. Yeah, where the fuck do people come up with this shit? Also we had a candy called "china snacks" which had a picture of a happy chinese guy with a strawhat, guess what, REMOVED, racist shit so now there is only a rice hat on there.

People are doing everything to remove "racist" things from fucking candy and icecreams, and, well, shit gets removed. Atleast we still have
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but its only a matter of time untill swedes are the minority here, and then we can call the newspapurz and say " IZ RACIST"

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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 20, 2013, 06:30:32 am
Hah Kalles kaviar is the most racist product because it has a picture of a boy with blue eyes and blonde hair in it :D.

Also "original" written in the same circle where his head is :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on November 20, 2013, 08:51:53 am
I try not to get pissed off by reading stupid shit like this in the newspapers... but I wanted to execute those two retarded females in the latest article about the ice cream 88:an. They should get their facts straight before sticking their stupid faces in a newspaper.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Angantyr on November 20, 2013, 11:31:05 am
I love Sweden, it is my second ancestral home, but post-WWII Sweden is one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to political correctness, multi-culturalism (of the kind that destroys the native culture) and femi-fascism. Like here, too many hysterical females in power.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Latvian on November 20, 2013, 12:00:38 pm
what does word "kaka" mean in that picture in 1st post?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 20, 2013, 12:03:38 pm
cookie
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Latvian on November 20, 2013, 12:15:53 pm
Quote from: GRANDMOM on November 20, 2013, 12:03:38 pm
cookie
kaka means poop on latvian, jsut so you know.  poopeaters
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: BASNAK on November 20, 2013, 12:22:25 pm
Quote from: Latvian on November 20, 2013, 12:00:38 pm
what does word "kaka" mean in that picture in 1st post?

Cake/Cookie.

Nvm GRANDMOM replied already
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on November 20, 2013, 01:58:15 pm
Quote from: Latvian on November 20, 2013, 12:15:53 pm
kaka means poop on latvian, jsut so you know.  poopeaters

Thanks for sharing Latvi :)
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Angantyr on November 20, 2013, 11:26:12 pm
Always found it interesting how close it is to the Scandinavian words for 'cake' ..
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on November 21, 2013, 11:40:09 am
Quote from: WarLord on November 20, 2013, 12:11:05 pm
I guess then Sweden is on the second place, first place goes to Germany ... We even can't have a crucifix at schools or other public places because its supposed to be racist towards muslims and other religions ... Also, some (left) political parties want to remove or at least rename all christian feasts/holiday because they "insult" all the muslims living here ...

If it's similar worse in Sweden and other nordic countries (and I know it's like that in our western neighbours in France, Netherlands and in the UK too to some extent) I see black for europe. But hey, we had this discussion already some times and it leads to nowhere, same as current social and political actions ...

Gonna reply when I come home. Posting to remember :p
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on November 22, 2013, 05:46:40 pm
Quote from: WarLord on November 20, 2013, 12:11:05 pm
I guess then Sweden is on the second place, first place goes to Germany ... We even can't have a crucifix at schools or other public places because its supposed to be racist towards muslims and other religions ... Also, some (left) political parties want to remove or at least rename all christian feasts/holiday because they "insult" all the muslims living here ...

If it's similar worse in Sweden and other nordic countries (and I know it's like that in our western neighbours in France, Netherlands and in the UK too to some extent) I see black for europe. But hey, we had this discussion already some times and it leads to nowhere, same as current social and political actions ...

Where I come from we have a tradition (I think it's a swedish tradition in general) that we go to the church at the end of our terms. But now we've cut down on that (we only go the church on Lucia) cause it's disrespectful to the muslims. There's some very traditional songs that are banned (Hosianna for example), the priests are by all means NOT allowed to bless the children, it's disrespectful to the muslims.. Al tho, the polititans want the school to take field trips to mosks, where the females need to cover their entire body so no skin will show, and they are talking about our religion is disrespectful to them.

The fault lies in the incompetence of our polititans, obviously.

Also, a shirt with a swedish flag on is banned in schools as well, cause it's classed as "racist".

It's all bullshit, and that is why nationalists are growing every day. That is why I believe Europe will once again face an nationalistic era (not chocolate chip cookie era, just plain nationalistic, it's a big difference, thank you).
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Torben on November 22, 2013, 05:54:00 pm
isnt a blue cute puppy thingy the swedish airforce sign up until the 194ies?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: BASNAK on November 22, 2013, 10:52:45 pm
When I went to school as a young kid we always used to go to Church when we ended each schoolyear and sometime around christmas - and I'm muslim. I didn't cry or moan about it.

I do however think that any religious education or forcing should be changed, not because I'm muslim but because I personally think it's stupid. Public school and religion shouldn't mix. Children shouldnt have to go to Mosques, Churches or Synagogues. Religion should only remain a course to be studied in school and not something that is practiced there.

If people wish to go to temples they can do that on their own.

Some might argue that it is tradition to go to church after school ending, I would argue that it's time to change since we live in a different time - Not because I would mind going to a church because I'm muslim - But because as I said before, dont mix religion and school.

P.S, all the banning clothes with swedish flags and all that is nonsense, even immigrants think that its retarded. I wonder who the hell comes up with those kind of things.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
Religion is very important imo and I believe it should be mixed. Sweden is a christian country, and should be allowed to visit the church and I think traditions are important to keep, it gives us integrity. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that is what I believe.

I probably should clarify I don't mind immigrants, I'm just in deep mistrust how about our current politics.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: BASNAK on November 23, 2013, 12:16:49 am
Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
Religion is very important imo and I believe it should be mixed. Sweden is a christian country, and should be allowed to visit the church and I think traditions are important to keep, it gives us integrity. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that is what I believe.

I probably should clarify I don't mind immigrants, I'm just in deep mistrust how about our current politics.

Sweden has went from Paganism, to Catholicism, to Protestantism and then to free religion through history. Traditions change, people change, we change. We live in a different time and should adjust accordingly - Religion has no place in School anymore.  And Sweden has no state religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_state_religions.svg
I dont have anything against Swedish traditions except for this one, because religion is forced down your throat which I find wrong. Just like I would oppose forcing school kids going to mosques for school ending if that was the tradition.

And yes there is no doubt current politics are fucked up  :D Just my two cents.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Teeth on November 23, 2013, 03:14:12 pm
Classic case of people having so little to worry about that they have the luxury of being offended by such shit. Dozens of such cases here in the Netherlands as well.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 27, 2013, 10:58:04 pm
Quote from: Torben on November 22, 2013, 05:54:00 pm
isnt a blue cute puppy thingy the swedish airforce sign up until the 194ies?

Eh that would be us Finns I guess :D

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Btw this is still in use for Finnish Lapland airforce:

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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Dezilagel on December 03, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
Quote from: Angantyr on November 20, 2013, 11:31:05 am
I love Sweden, it is my second ancestral home, but post-WWII Sweden is one of the worst countries in the world when it comes to political correctness, multi-culturalism (of the kind that destroys the native culture) and femi-fascism. Like here, too many hysterical females in power.

Wait what? you really believe this shit?

The "it's so unfair, I can't say what I REALLY want to say bcuz political correctness" argument (very commonly heard around here) is just bullshit.

It's simply a way for people with opinions they know to be just narrow-minded bigotry to put themselves in a (in a way, kind of hilarious) victimized position.

Regarding "native culture": What exactly is the native culture of Sweden? Vikings? August Strindberg? Ikea and meatballs? Jantelag?

Pre-WW2 Sweden really was the shit btw. Poverty, Folkhem and Rasbiologi! Hooray!

These are of course silly examples, and that's because they really are irrelevant. The world moves forward, and thankfully so does Sweden.

I think it's really silly to be proud of ones country (I had nothing to do with creating 'Sweden', so what is there for me to be proud of?), but I for one am glad to live in a place where women actually have a reasonable shot at achieving equal status and power to men, and where reason at least for now seems to have the upper hand to backwards prejudice and nationalistic nonsense.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 03, 2013, 09:33:15 pm
Classic Nordic countries right there :P
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Bittersteel on December 05, 2013, 12:16:19 am
Quote from: Dezilagel on December 03, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
Regarding "native culture": What exactly is the native culture of sweden?


White people
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 05, 2013, 01:48:14 am
Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
Religion is very important imo
Your free to have that opinion, and noone denies you the right of going to the church - if religion is important to you then use the right to freedom of religion instead of trying to push the religion onto others because you think its culture or tradition.

Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
Sweden is a christian country, and should be allowed to visit the church
No its not, it used to be and feel free to do so - noone is stopping anyone from going to any religious house

Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
and I think traditions are important to keep, it gives us integrity.

By all means keep them but dont enforce them on me - traditions are changing all the time - holding on to traditions is your choice to make - dont enforce what you think is traditions onto others

Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:57 pm
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that is what I believe.


No, you are conservative and probably you are a bit afraid of change and likes a society thats constant to your liking - and would like others to be put into "your" society so that your image of it fits

 
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 05, 2013, 01:54:24 am
Quote from: Dezilagel on December 03, 2013, 09:16:08 pm
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Couldnt agree more
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on December 05, 2013, 05:25:37 pm
Tycker absolut inte att vi skall stoppa invandringen om det är det ni tror. Jag tycker däremot att landet är djävulskt trasigt om Integrationsministeriet läggs ner p.g.a. det anses vara rasistiskt.

Jag har mött flera familjer som kommer hit till Sverige med stora förhoppningar om fred, välstånd och ett stabilt jobb etc. Vad händer? Ingenting. De får inte ens ett städjobb - trots att de är kvalificerade inom deras yrke som de hade i sitt hemland. De går hemma i flera år, lär sig ingen svenska - för hur lätt är det för familjer som inte integreras eller får någon hjälp från samhället att lära sig språket? För att lära sig det och ta del av Sverige måste man komma ut och arbeta och inte bli satt i Rannebergen t.ex. där det är 98% invandrare och som enligt vissa invandrare är "perfekt för att det är som Irak" och sitta arbetslös i flera år.

Många av dessa andra generationsbarn har ingen som helst respekt för ett klassrum. När en lärare ringer hem eller tar upp händelser på utvecklingssamtal (där det ofta krävs en tolk) så förstår inte föräldrarna någonting - för inte beter sig deras barn illa, det är inte vad de för höra hemma. Självklart finns det svenska barn som är helt galna rent ut sagt, men det är det vi diskuterar nu och det är knappast vad jag tror heller.

Min poäng är att landet sviker invandrarna. Vi pumpar in fler och fler men har ingen riktigt plats för dem. Skapa "låtsasjobb" och ge dem en slant för det, så det i alla fall känns som man gör någonting nyttigt och får komma ut och träffa människor och arbeta.

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No, you are conservative and probably you are a bit afraid of change and likes a society thats constant to your liking - and would like others to be put into "your" society so that your image of it fits

Nej, så är inte fallet. Jag tycker däremot att det är löjligt att inte få bära en tröja med en svensk flagga. Sen tycker jag det är synd att vi inte besöker kyrkan i skolan längre. Det är väldigt, väldigt många som tycker om kyrkan, möjligtvis inte predikan utan musiken och vissa präster är otroligt bra på att fånga barnen med berättelser (Kung Midas t.ex.). De sångstunder vi har är otroligt fina och barnen mår riktigt bra av dem. Många utav Kyrkans sånger är vackra och relativt enkla för barn. 

Länge leve demokratin säger jag. Jag är glad att vi lever i ett land där var och en har rätt till sin egna åsikt.

Innan någon grammarn'azi kommer så har jag inte perfekt svenska, jag vet :(
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: LordBerenger on December 23, 2013, 05:16:18 pm
SD 2014! SvP 2014!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 29, 2013, 05:47:18 am
Quote from: bagge on December 05, 2013, 05:25:37 pm
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Detta, fixa till skiten så att folk kan få bostäder lite utspritt, så att dom som får flytta till sverige lär sig svenska och sen se till att det finns jobb åt alla som vi tar in. Och då ska de inte behöva ta jobb från svenskar. Läste nån artikel för ett tag sedan att invandrare får en del av lönen betald av staten så att de blir anställda över svenskar.

Och personligen tycker jag att vi borde vara emot deras jäkla religion, inte bygga moskeer åt dem. Ingenting bra kommer från islam det är bara ondska.

Tycker det bästa skulle vara att hjälpa dom på plats istället för att behöva ta hit dom, om det nu är möjligt.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: BASNAK on December 29, 2013, 01:04:48 pm
Nu är jag inte 100% säker om detta gäller alla moskéer. Men dom flesta byggs från min egen erfarenhet alltid med donationer från muslimer. Moskén var jag bor, får inte en enda slant från staten eller kommunen utan betalas av alla dem som besöker den årligen. Samma grej i Lund. Oftast när någon vill bygga ny moské åker de från moské till moské runt hela Sverige och visar byggnadsplanerna, pris och frågar efter donationer, Ibland gör dem det utomlands också som i England och Mellanöstern. Ganska hårt arbete.

Ser inte varför folk inte skulle få bygga tempel med deras egna pengar.

Tänker inte gå in på någon religiös debatt nu men att påstå att allt som kommer ifrån Islam är bara ondska är ett ignorant påstående. Skulle även gissa att du inte har mycket erfarenhet med praktiserande muslimer. Om du talar om invandrare som bara inte äter gris och säger att de är muslimer så är det en helt annan fråga.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Umbra on December 29, 2013, 01:19:05 pm
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Post by: Molly on December 29, 2013, 01:43:33 pm
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Could be a female spiderman... :3
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: kinngrimm on December 29, 2013, 02:15:05 pm
Poor indian lads who cant use their thousands of year old symbol without being put into the same catagory created from that austrian fuckup in the last centuary.

Quote from: WarLord on November 20, 2013, 12:11:05 pm
I guess then Sweden is on the second place, first place goes to Germany ... We even can't have a crucifix at schools or other public places because its supposed to be racist towards muslims and other religions ... Also, some (left) political parties want to remove or at least rename all christian feasts/holiday because they "insult" all the muslims living here ...

If it's similar worse in Sweden and other nordic countries (and I know it's like that in our western neighbours in France, Netherlands and in the UK too to some extent) I see black for europe. But hey, we had this discussion already some times and it leads to nowhere, same as current social and political actions ...
I am agnostik and while i like traditions in general, i dont like traditions which put people into places where they wouldnt have a choice. Like making me a christian from birth or anyone. Teach them what a christian is, and all other religions, teach them ethics and give them then the choice to choose for themselves.

Contrary to that stands religios symbols in schools in germany, which is a constant reminder of who is boss in these regions and from one point of view also already propaganda. Securalism isnt going far enough. We have actually political parties in germany calling themselves "Christ... something soemthing" and they are the ruling parties. Again, i am not against some of the values spreaded by chrisitanity, but in a modern state, religions shouldnt be included in the states system on any level.
I find it quite ironic, that those who fear most they would loose their religious identity because of a missing symbol in school, are most likely not regularly going to church anyways ^^. 45% of germans went into christmess this year, meaning 55% didnt.


Quote from: bagge on November 22, 2013, 05:46:40 pm
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It's all bullshit, and that is why nationalists are growing every day. That is why I believe Europe will once again face an nationalistic era (not chocolate chip cookie era, just plain nationalistic, it's a big difference, thank you).
More over the money if at all.
Quote from: WarLord on November 22, 2013, 06:44:48 pm
This is what I strongly hope for. Our (which means all western-european) politicians are hypocrites, deadbeats, liars, incompetent robber barons that piss on their own people for profits and "political correctness", with leftist politicians being the biggest traitors to their own countrymen.
National Pride like patriot sentiments are used by politicians to get elected.
While those on the right often are lead by capitalistic interests, those on the left more by socialistic interests. In germany before the Berlin Wall came down, we had a social economy, based on Erhards thoughts mainly. With the Sovietblock failing, the amiricans taking that as sign from god that capitalism wins, instead that communism didnt work out(there is a difference in perspective), the whole western world went all out with capitalism, just have a look at the different monitary crisis we had been in since then. Greed and deregulations combined produced huge clusterfucks.
Add the globalisation of companies, something which is going on for a long time and you may get a hint why some of our problems are recurring.

Nationalism is as bad just on another level as is pure capatalism. Aslong we dont find a balance between different idears and idealogies and not always say "Only" that idear is valid, "only" that way we have to march, but open up the idears for shades of possibities, nuances of choice, plentiful ways to choose from and not "only one way". When the politicians promise you the lands of milk and honey, the paradise, they are fucked up, those lands dont exist, never will, life is about struggle and can be improved gradually by many idears not at once by 'only' one idear. There is no one true political party. There are merily different points of views, at certain points in time, their idears may become more valid, depending on the problems currently most pressuring.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 29, 2013, 02:40:47 pm
Quote from: Gravoth_iii on December 29, 2013, 05:47:18 am
Detta, fixa till skiten så att folk kan få bostäder lite utspritt, så att dom som får flytta till sverige lär sig svenska och sen se till att det finns jobb åt alla som vi tar in. Och då ska de inte behöva ta jobb från svenskar. Läste nån artikel för ett tag sedan att invandrare får en del av lönen betald av staten så att de blir anställda över svenskar.

Och personligen tycker jag att vi borde vara emot deras jäkla religion, inte bygga moskeer åt dem. Ingenting bra kommer från islam det är bara ondska.

Tycker det bästa skulle vara att hjälpa dom på plats istället för att behöva ta hit dom, om det nu är möjligt.

Läst mycket avpixlat på senaste tiden?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Dezilagel on January 02, 2014, 04:49:54 pm
Taking bets on the ban.

A few months? A year?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on January 02, 2014, 04:53:04 pm
Nothing strange here, considering it is Sweden.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: bagge on January 02, 2014, 05:11:21 pm
Yeah well it is known Mona Sahlin is a nutjob.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: wayyyyyne on January 02, 2014, 05:19:05 pm
Quote from: Dezilagel on January 02, 2014, 04:49:54 pm
Taking bets on the ban.

A few months? A year?

A ban for what? These are just images from newspapers and yt videos you can google up yourself put together
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on January 02, 2014, 05:20:53 pm
Might be a bit of a shock to young uns, even with a NSFW spoiler.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: GRANDMOM on January 02, 2014, 05:22:09 pm
Quote from: wayyyyyne on January 02, 2014, 04:14:58 pm
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Nice set of pictures Wayneee, if you want a serious debate let me know
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: BASNAK on January 02, 2014, 06:20:27 pm
Many might disagree with me now and call me extreme. But I consider Sweden's punishment for crime too lenient and a joke. Firstly, the number of years given for serious crime are too few. Like those involved in the armed helicopter robbery who got 2-4 years prison, or the many cases where rape and violence is barely punished. Secondly, the months or years they spent in prison aren't really that punishing. This is the result when you google Swedish prison: Swedish Prisons (https://www.google.se/search?q=swedish+prison&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qpvFUu2MKMOG4AS164CYBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=954). Just like Student dorm rooms in my opinion. Now, I have never spent time in prison to know what it's like, but access to free food, gym and TV (and computer? (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article12832359.ab)) with a solo dorm room doesn't sound that bad. Hell, I've even heard they get better food than kids do in our schools.

We treat our criminals better than our homeless, and millions around the world can only dream of swapping place with a Swedish prison-inmate. And if I ever end up homeless the first thing I'll do is commit some non violent crime to just end up in prison, Free everything bitches.

I'd personally like to see stricter penalties for crime, bringing back capital punishment and deporting foreigners who commit serious crimes within a 10-20 years after immigration. Now I'll stop ranting since my post is becoming too long.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on January 02, 2014, 08:11:33 pm
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on January 03, 2014, 05:38:20 am
Quote from: BASNAK on January 02, 2014, 06:20:27 pm
Many might disagree with me now and call me extreme. But I consider Sweden's punishment for crime too lenient and a joke. Firstly, the number of years given for serious crime are too few. Like those involved in the armed helicopter robbery who got 2-4 years prison, or the many cases where rape and violence is barely punished. Secondly, the months or years they spent in prison aren't really that punishing. This is the result when you google Swedish prison: Swedish Prisons (https://www.google.se/search?q=swedish+prison&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qpvFUu2MKMOG4AS164CYBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=954). Just like Student dorm rooms in my opinion. Now, I have never spent time in prison to know what it's like, but access to free food, gym and TV (and computer? (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article12832359.ab)) with a solo dorm room doesn't sound that bad. Hell, I've even heard they get better food than kids do in our schools.

We treat our criminals better than our homeless, and millions around the world can only dream of swapping place with a Swedish prison-inmate. And if I ever end up homeless the first thing I'll do is commit some non violent crime to just end up in prison, Free everything bitches.

I'd personally like to see stricter penalties for crime, bringing back capital punishment and deporting foreigners who commit serious crimes within a 10-20 years after immigration. Now I'll stop ranting since my post is becoming too long.

While I also feel those who do crimes like you have mentioned deserve a long time in prison, I at the same time think the best method to help them and stop them from doing it again would be to try to help them, with a few years of prison and therapy of some sort. Try to teach them better instead of just punishing them i guess.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with you swedes?
Post by: Umbra on January 03, 2014, 11:23:33 am
Quote from: BASNAK on January 02, 2014, 06:20:27 pm
Many might disagree with me now and call me extreme. But I consider Sweden's punishment for crime too lenient and a joke. Firstly, the number of years given for serious crime are too few. Like those involved in the armed helicopter robbery who got 2-4 years prison, or the many cases where rape and violence is barely punished. Secondly, the months or years they spent in prison aren't really that punishing. This is the result when you google Swedish prison: Swedish Prisons (https://www.google.se/search?q=swedish+prison&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qpvFUu2MKMOG4AS164CYBA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=954). Just like Student dorm rooms in my opinion. Now, I have never spent time in prison to know what it's like, but access to free food, gym and TV (and computer? (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article12832359.ab)) with a solo dorm room doesn't sound that bad. Hell, I've even heard they get better food than kids do in our schools.

We treat our criminals better than our homeless, and millions around the world can only dream of swapping place with a Swedish prison-inmate. And if I ever end up homeless the first thing I'll do is commit some non violent crime to just end up in prison, Free everything bitches.

I'd personally like to see stricter penalties for crime, bringing back capital punishment and deporting foreigners who commit serious crimes within a 10-20 years after immigration. Now I'll stop ranting since my post is becoming too long.

Imo the prison system in Sweden is great. I would just be more strict to very violent crimes where the inmates were deemed dangerous for the enviroment. Other than that , I may be naive or idealistic, but i truly believe in reforming people and not keeping them in prison for cheap labor profit or putting them in fucking isolation where they would become insane.

I dont live in Sweden, but from what limited, perhapse biased, information i do get, the bigger problem I see is integration and assimilation. Why is there such a loose immigration policy? If you lack labor i understand, but if the reason is that political correctness has you by the balls, thats wrong.