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Title: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on July 15, 2015, 04:13:55 pm
First off, I tried all of the Dirt games after Colin McRae (got them as deals cheap, as in 5€ cheap) and I hated them.
Gymkana is for retards and Hollywood, Rallycross is XGames bullcrap and the few real Rally stages were barely solid.

BUT (!) now there is Dirt Rally and while all the fans of the former Dirt games are disappointed, the old people like me who loved Colin McRae Rally celebrate big time.
I haven't played it myself yet. Merely repeating the majority of opinions on the internet...


I am sooo happy! Can't wait to get hands on it. Finally there seems to be a good Rally game once more!
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Latvian on July 15, 2015, 04:44:20 pm
when i get in my car and drive latvian roads its way more fun than any rally game.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: [ptx] on July 15, 2015, 04:51:33 pm
I've played the games, i really liked the first Dirt... what is Gymkana?
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Post by: Leshma on July 15, 2015, 04:57:22 pm
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Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on July 15, 2015, 04:59:14 pm
I've played the games, i really liked the first Dirt... what is Gymkana?
Drifting in circles through some industry park, mainly around some barrels and underneath some Caterpillar machine... completely stupid.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: darmaster on July 15, 2015, 05:15:32 pm
Thought the first 2 dirt were considered good by both critics and players :/
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on July 15, 2015, 05:22:32 pm
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on July 15, 2015, 05:33:19 pm
  • 3P camera is puke
  • The interior sound design has some nice effects, I'm sick of the bassy bullshit in other games
  • Physics seem quite "rigid", maybe it's the perspective but the car seem to react too fast to the inputs, like it has more grip than it should
There is a bonet camera, a semi-cockpit and a full cockpit view beside the 3rd person cameras.
The physics are getting high praise by a lot of players. Some say tho that works best on gravel/sand, still has too much grip on tarmac tho. Ice seems to be a problem too. But overall they all agree that it's on a very good way.
Also, keep in mind that the video shows one of the best rally cars every built. Driving the older cars especially, there is way less grip and/or a big difference in reactions to drivers input (no power steering has a huge impact on that for example).

And it's still Early Access. That's why I am very hesitant in actually picking this up. I guess I rather wait for the full release and some reviews. But I have really high hopes cuz atm it seems that they don't cater too much to the Gymkana-Dirt-crowd but instead listen rather to the sim-heavy folks.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Leshma on July 15, 2015, 08:17:58 pm
According to passionate driving sims enthusiast, physics in Dirt Rally is garbage. Only slightly better than other Codemasters games. But since I don't have a driving wheel, I'll be fine with Colin McRae 2005 like physics. Anything more demanding requires wheel and I'm planning to race using gamepad.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on July 15, 2015, 10:22:52 pm
3P camera in rally games is for skrubs anyway, 1P cockpit view all the way. I've been longing for a good rally game, but the car really did seem very responsive from the video.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on July 15, 2015, 11:05:49 pm
According to passionate driving sims enthusiast, physics in Dirt Rally is garbage. Only slightly better than other Codemasters games. But since I don't have a driving wheel, I'll be fine with Colin McRae 2005 like physics. Anything more demanding requires wheel and I'm planning to race using gamepad.

Honestly since I bought a proper wheel (G27) I do not even think about playing a racing game on anything else. You seem to be seriously into racing games so I think that would be a worthwhile investment.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Krave on July 21, 2015, 03:26:11 pm
Dirts were always too easy, tracks were soo dull... Dirt 3 for example: Michigan and Kenya? Ken Block as top rally driver? Heh

If you are old Colins vet you will like WRC 4. Cars in realistic classes ( Junior WRC, WRC, WRC 2, WRC 3 ) and all countries from 2013 season.

And RBR and its mod, forgot name, for wheel owners  :wink:
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Overdriven on July 23, 2015, 01:44:16 pm
BUT (!) now there is Dirt Rally and while all the fans of the former Dirt games are disappointed, the old people like me who loved Colin McRae Rally celebrate big time.

If this is true then that's great. I picked up the Dirt games and was very disappointed in that they weren't more like the rally games of old.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Casul on July 23, 2015, 02:07:17 pm
Dirts were always too easy, tracks were soo dull... Dirt 3 for example: Michigan and Kenya? Ken Block as top rally driver? Heh

If you are old Colins vet you will like WRC 4. Cars in realistic classes ( Junior WRC, WRC, WRC 2, WRC 3 ) and all countries from 2013 season.

And RBR and its mod, forgot name, for wheel owners  :wink:


You just gonna drive around in your Skoda Favorit anyway
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Krave on July 23, 2015, 07:54:46 pm

You just gonna drive around in your Skoda Favorit anyway

Not Favorit, Felicia. Learn how to Skoda.

And I know what's with second one - water in lubrication oil  :cry:
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 08, 2015, 07:46:02 pm
Friend convinced me to get it.
Found a cheap key.
Loving it. For now.

Since you have to earn money to advance to bigger, better, faster cars, I've been only able to drive the Mini Cooper and it feels great.
Scandinavian flick, gas steering, loose rear end, handbrake turns... you can see the car react to every single different kind of input. Feels really nice, looks really nice and believable.
I am deeply enjoying it and finally they made a worthy Rally game!
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2015, 08:13:44 pm
What's your driving wheel setup, Molly?

I find that usually the most enjoyable part of racing sims is driving slow cars :D
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 08, 2015, 08:49:15 pm
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I'm playing with a xbox gamepad :?

I keep thinking about getting wheel and pedals some times per year but somehow I can't get myself to actually buy a proper setup.
I still enjoy playing with a pad tho... herezy... I know :3

And yea, slow cars are more fun for some reason.
Just bought a Opel Kadett GT/R from the 70's and I am already struggling with the power of that one :lol:
RWD is fucking me up all the time :D Suddenly the tires grip again and WHOOOOSH, off the car goes into a direction I do not want x)
 
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2015, 09:09:19 pm
HERETIC

Like seriously why? I used to play racing games with a gamepad but it's rubbish compared to a driving wheel and pedals. It's well worth a few hundred euros, and yeah I do mean dropping more on that set than on your CPU or whatever.

Please watch this guy explain the concept better than I can:

Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 09, 2015, 09:36:59 am
Yeah, main issue actually is that I am not willing to fork out that much money.
I do play so many different games that the 360 pad delivers when I actually use it. Still play most games with m&k.
Besides, I rather spend money that's left on stuff for my real bike than on a game controller. ;)
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: jtobiasm on December 09, 2015, 09:36:53 pm
I got the G29 on offer on Saturday, been playing Project cars and i don't think i've had this much fun gaming in a year.

If anyone has a cheap steam CD key link please post it, I don't want to pay more than £20.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: cmp on December 10, 2015, 12:05:17 am
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I'm playing with a xbox gamepad :?

I keep thinking about getting wheel and pedals some times per year but somehow I can't get myself to actually buy a proper setup.
I still enjoy playing with a pad tho... herezy... I know :3

And yea, slow cars are more fun for some reason.
Just bought a Opel Kadett GT/R from the 70's and I am already struggling with the power of that one :lol:
RWD is fucking me up all the time :D Suddenly the tires grip again and WHOOOOSH, off the car goes into a direction I do not want x)

Try the Stratos, it's very drivable and perfect for a gamepad.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 10, 2015, 09:33:33 am
I have to earn more credits before I can afford that :D
I gonna accept the challenge with the Kadett tho and earn me the respect of that car! >_<
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 10, 2015, 09:55:47 am
So how is the game overall? How does the driving feel?
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 10, 2015, 01:56:57 pm
So how is the game overall? How does the driving feel?

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Since you have to earn money to advance to bigger, better, faster cars, I've been only able to drive the Mini Cooper and it feels great.
Scandinavian flick, gas steering, loose rear end, handbrake turns... you can see the car react to every single different kind of input. Feels really nice, looks really nice and believable.
I am deeply enjoying it and finally they made a worthy Rally game!
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Overdriven on December 10, 2015, 02:37:20 pm
Looks good. The last decent rally game I played was on dreamcast. Can't even remember which one that was it's been far too long.

Is it in early access still? Saw some mention of that when I was googling.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Leshma on December 10, 2015, 03:28:05 pm
It has been released few days ago.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 10, 2015, 09:27:01 pm
Told ya, I gonna tame the 'beast' :lol:

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Didn't go that smooth tho...

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Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 10, 2015, 11:10:47 pm
Jesus fuck im struggling with the 80s car like I've never sat behind a wheel before and then you see this video


@_@
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Post by: darmaster on December 11, 2015, 12:22:37 am
oh my god
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 11, 2015, 01:56:47 am
So how is the game overall? How does the driving feel?

Awesome feel, at least on the early cars. Best rally game I've played by far, and it has some actually interesting persistent elements in career mode like Grid did.

Jesus fuck im struggling with the 80s car like I've never sat behind a wheel before and then you see this video

I take it you bought it then. Maybe you're just bad. In any case, using a gamepad or keyboard is limiting.

That said, Bidno Moorland is fucking brutal and that guy is a beast.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 11, 2015, 08:44:23 am
I take it you bought it then. Maybe you're just bad. In any case, using a gamepad or keyboard is limiting.

That said, Bidno Moorland is fucking brutal and that guy is a beast.

I plundered it. Maybe I am bad. Well tbh I've only done two races so far, still getting used to the feel of the car. And yeah I'm using a keyboard. Also, is shifting supposed to be this slow on the 80s cars? Whenever I have to go from 3rd gear to reverse it takes forever.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 11, 2015, 09:17:08 am
My guess would be that 80's cars still have the H-scheme as gearbox which is significantly slower than a sequential one...

Besides, getting the R is tricky. Sometimes I have to properly stop the car and then release and hit backwards again to get it shifted.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 11, 2015, 09:49:12 am
My guess would be that 80's cars still have the H-scheme as gearbox which is significantly slower than a sequential one...

Besides, getting the R is tricky. Sometimes I have to properly stop the car and then release and hit backwards again to get it shifted.

I was wondering if it was a keyboard thing or whatever... The problem is that every time you shift to lower (or higher) your guy needs to complete his animation before the game allows you to shift to lower once more. Just feels slow and if you need to stop fast and go from 3rd gear to reverse for example, you're left sitting there for a few sec shifting to reverse. Shouldn't you be able to shift from 3rd directly to reverse with H-gearbox? :/ Isn't how I described this behaviour exactly how a sequential gearbox works, except that the real one is much faster I presume.

Maybe it's a settings thing, with keyboard the only option I had was either automatic, semi-auto or sequential, I believe.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 11, 2015, 04:00:09 pm
I didn't check myself but can you configure a dedicated key directly for reverse?

Edit:
Hmm...
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 11, 2015, 07:20:07 pm

It's Mario Kart Wii!

Also, is shifting supposed to be this slow on the 80s cars? Whenever I have to go from 3rd gear to reverse it takes forever.
My guess would be that 80's cars still have the H-scheme as gearbox which is significantly slower than a sequential one...

Besides, getting the R is tricky. Sometimes I have to properly stop the car and then release and hit backwards again to get it shifted.
I was wondering if it was a keyboard thing or whatever... The problem is that every time you shift to lower (or higher) your guy needs to complete his animation before the game allows you to shift to lower once more. Just feels slow and if you need to stop fast and go from 3rd gear to reverse for example, you're left sitting there for a few sec shifting to reverse. Shouldn't you be able to shift from 3rd directly to reverse with H-gearbox? :/ Isn't how I described this behaviour exactly how a sequential gearbox works, except that the real one is much faster I presume.

Maybe it's a settings thing, with keyboard the only option I had was either automatic, semi-auto or sequential, I believe.

Inferior control scheme plebs. If you play with sequential shifting (the only option that makes sense if you don't have an H shifter), the gearbox will always be working sequentially i.e. you can only switch from one speed to the lower one or the higher one. If when you drive cars that physically have H-shifters the guy is doing the whole shifting before letting you shift again, it's just the game telling you to buy the necessary equipment to play the game properly. It's the first racing game I played that has somewhat realistic stalling, and that's awesome.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 11, 2015, 08:42:11 pm
(the only option that makes sense if you don't have an H shifter)

Well not really, I could as well just use my numpad for shifting into desired gear for example, no need to do it sequentally on keyboard.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 12, 2015, 12:49:25 am
I guess they didn't bother.
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Post by: Vibe on December 12, 2015, 09:28:48 pm
Guess so. Also wow, what a change when you're driving on ice/snow. Without traction control your tires slide off like fuck, with a little speed you can slide out of turns so easily.. loved it

EDIT: Just drove my first Bidno Moorland, this track is devastating
EDIT2: Bought a Peugot 205 T16 Evo2... I can't handle this car... at all.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 13, 2015, 01:08:36 pm
The faster the cars get, the more often I am ditching it :D

Going from the Mini to the Kadett already gave me huge trouble, not to mention the time I needed to get along with RWD.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Butan on December 13, 2015, 04:20:37 pm
Can a XBOX 360 controller be used efficiently with this game?
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 13, 2015, 04:24:53 pm
Can a XBOX 360 controller be used efficiently with this game?
I'm playing with one. All the buttons and knobs work if that is the question.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Butan on December 13, 2015, 04:31:01 pm
Do you feel you lose precision compared to keyboard/mouse or is it better? Or only better in some aspects, worse in other... I want to know if its going to be possible to be really skilled at driving with an xbox  controller, 'cause I hate keyboard for car games (especially hardcore car games like this one, gonna use FPS view etc!) and I also hate not winning :P
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 13, 2015, 07:09:20 pm
If you hate not winning you won't like this game.
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Post by: Molly on December 13, 2015, 07:18:46 pm
If you hate not winning you won't like this game.
This. :lol:

Gamepad is way above driving with a keyboard. That is a simple fact. Always has been.
You get analog pedal control and analog steering control - both just not possible with a keyboard.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 13, 2015, 07:39:51 pm
If you hate not winning you won't like this game.

Yeah word right here. I don't think there's any difficulty settings and you won't be winning races unless you're really good/crazy, which means you need to be driving on the 'edge' most of the time. I managed a second place in my first championship with the slowest cars because I risked a lot (drove far faster than what I consider 'safe' fast) and luckily didn't crash that often.

Not to mention the faster cars, which are ridiculously hard to control at high speeds..
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Overdriven on December 13, 2015, 08:45:49 pm
Obtained it to give it a trial run after you guys talked about the difficulty. Holy crap this game is punishing. I love how it rubs it in your face as well 'Think youve gotten to grips with dirt rally? Try completing a night stage after youve smashed your headlights'. My first stage I totally over estimated how fast I could go and ditched my mini off a cliff within the first few corners.

I'm enjoying it and its been a long while since I've played a racing game that required so much concentration and has heart in your mouth moments so going to give it a bit longer and will probably pick it up when it goes on deal.

Edit: fuck you wales. I did so well in the snow and then you throw wet gravel at me  :|

So completed the first championship, somehow polled 3rd which I was pretty impressed with. Those last stages in Germany were easy. Anyhow going to uninstall and definitely going on my buy list.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 13, 2015, 11:40:45 pm
Anyone else played the Monaco stages yet? Tight road in the Alps and ice patches, what's not to like?
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 13, 2015, 11:59:37 pm
Anyone else played the Monaco stages yet? Tight road in the Alps and ice patches, what's not to like?

Monaco is difficult yeah. Every little mistake smacks you either into the stone wall or rocks :evil: Just drove my second Monaco with the new (4WD) car, ice is constant understeering..

Nothing beats Wales though, fuck that track.
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Post by: Overdriven on December 14, 2015, 12:58:15 pm
I loved Monaco. Actually did pretty well on those stages but did have a few o crap moments. One of them was getting the bumper of my mini stuck on a parked car. Actually couldn't reverse or anything so had to reset :(

Yeah Wales is total bullshit. I came off the road so many times.
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 01:01:48 pm
I've had something similar happen to me, I flew into trees and didn't get the "get back on track with penalty" option, so had to reset entire track...

I think I'll try playing with controller today instead of keyboard, see how it goes, though I'm really not used to driving with a controller.
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Post by: Overdriven on December 14, 2015, 01:11:47 pm
It's really nice with a controller. I haven't bothered with keyboard and mouse but from previous experiences you have a lot more control over your speed and direction. Using the right trigger to give you just the right amount of speed already makes it worth while.
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Post by: Molly on December 14, 2015, 03:18:47 pm
Tip for gamepad:
Play around with the advanced controller settings. Especially steering sensitivity and linearity made my life so much easier. Take your time to play around with those!
I didn't bother with deadzone and such. That works out of the box but my cars were so wiggly on a straight when coming out of a corner...

Went down sensitivity and altered the linearity... helped a ton!
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 03:22:20 pm
Tip for gamepad:
Play around with the advanced controller settings. Especially steering sensitivity and linearity made my life so much easier. Take your time to play around with those!
I didn't bother with deadzone and such. That works out of the box but my cars were so wiggly on a straight when coming out of a corner...

Went down sensitivity and altered the linearity... helped a ton!

I wonder how sensitivity works with controllers, since you have a fixed value of distance your stick can move (from point A to point B) as opposed to let's say, mouse, where your limiting factor is your mousepad (and even then you can just lift the mouse). So what happens with higher/lower sensitivity when your stick is halfway from point A to point B, point A being the neutral stick position and point B being stick tilted to right as much as it can be?

What's linearity? This is all so alien to me.
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Post by: Butan on December 14, 2015, 03:53:14 pm
Much of the advanced settings (and car set-up) stuff is also alien to me  :P  very tricky...

Like you said Vibe, controller sensitivity is from center to the circle limit. So if you have low sensitivity, you must be that much closer to the maximum tilt to have the same effect. On a high sensitivity setting you will be able to do hard steering from moving slightly from the neutral position.

Linearity must mean that the sensitivity is not equal wherever you tilt your stick from. Meaning that, for a similar sensitivity setting, you will gradually have more or less steering power the more you are away from the neutral position.
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 04:05:43 pm
Much of the advanced settings (and car set-up) stuff is also alien to me  :P  very tricky...

Like you said Vibe, controller sensitivity is from center to the circle limit. So if you have low sensitivity, you must be that much closer to the maximum tilt to have the same effect. On a high sensitivity setting you will be able to do hard steering from moving slightly from the neutral position.

Linearity must mean that the sensitivity is not equal wherever you tilt your stick from. Meaning that, for a similar sensitivity setting, you will gradually have more or less steering power the more you are away from the neutral position.

Makes sense

"The benefit of nonlinearity can be improved aiming. Sensitivity will be reduced around the centre of the controller making finer adjustments easier. Moving further along the axis, output will increase as will movement of the control surfaces."
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Post by: Molly on December 14, 2015, 05:16:28 pm
Yes.

Sensitivity allows you to alter the maximum turning speed of the steering wheel.
Linearity allows you to alter the way the maximum turning speed is reached. Full linearity means that it's always the same turning speed right from the start.
Less linearity makes the turning speed start slow and becoming constantly faster till maximum.

You can't really describe how it's best because this is very subjective. Like I wrote before, take your time to test this out. Bit of a chore but it's time well worth it.
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 05:28:26 pm
Yes.

Sensitivity allows you to alter the maximum turning speed of the steering wheel.
Linearity allows you to alter the way the maximum turning speed is reached. Full linearity means that it's always the same turning speed right from the start.
Less linearity makes the turning speed start slow and becoming constantly faster till maximum.

You can't really describe how it's best because this is very subjective. Like I wrote before, take your time to test this out. Bit of a chore but it's time well worth it.

Just as a point of reference, whats your sensitivity/linearity
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Post by: Golem on December 14, 2015, 06:22:38 pm
Only played the original game twice at a friends house. Is it the one where you can customize(and have to repair) every little part of the car? If yes, is that still in the game?
Will give this a try, but holy smokes 20 gigs.  :shock:
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Post by: Overdriven on December 14, 2015, 06:24:09 pm

Will give this a try, but holy smokes 20 gigs.  :shock:

It's a very nice looking game  :) I can play with pretty much everything on ultra though there are moments where it struggles. The huge crowd at the start of the German stage made it lag a little bit. Going through forests can get a bit juttery every now and then as well.
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 06:40:36 pm
Ok definitely better playing with controller as opposed to keyboard, even though I'm horrible with handling a controller. Can't compare 0%/100% digital input to smooth transition between 0% and 100% when it comes to turning and gas pedal (since this is a game where you don't want to keep the gas pedal pushed in like a tard). I've fiddled a bit with sensitivity/linearity settings until I stopped wobbling on turn exits.
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Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2015, 08:18:03 pm
Reading all that controller crap is slowly giving me eye cancer. Want to press the gas pedal halfway? Press the gas pedal halfway x) There are entry steering wheel + 2 pedals kits for less than 100 euros new.
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Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 08:40:32 pm
Reading all that controller crap is slowly giving me eye cancer. Want to press the gas pedal halfway? Press the gas pedal halfway x) There are entry steering wheel + 2 pedals kits for less than 100 euros new.

no thanks, would love to play with a wheel but not willing to commit even 50€ for one
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Golem on December 14, 2015, 08:58:50 pm
Would probably feel like driving a tractor, but here's a set for half the price you suggested you wouldn't spend. Not that I urge you to get it, I prefer mouse and keyboard in racing games, but that's just me.
http://www.amazon.com/InterAct-SV280-Interact-Racing-Wheel/dp/B00000JDDY/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1450123015&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/InterAct-SV280-Interact-Racing-Wheel/dp/B00000JDDY/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1450123015&sr=1-2)
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 14, 2015, 09:04:20 pm
I prefer mouse and keyboard in racing games, but that's just me.

Dude I'm a die hard mouse/keyboard fan but playing this game with a keyboard is like eating soup with a shovel
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Golem on December 14, 2015, 09:10:10 pm
Dude I'm a die hard mouse/keyboard fan but playing this game with a keyboard is like eating soup with a shovel
Well, can't judge that yet, as I am still downloading it, but I bet you're exaggerating
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2015, 10:36:43 pm
More like eating soup from a fountain that only works if you push your anus into a shovel at the same time.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Overdriven on December 14, 2015, 11:43:09 pm
Reading all that controller crap is slowly giving me eye cancer. Want to press the gas pedal halfway? Press the gas pedal halfway x) There are entry steering wheel + 2 pedals kits for less than 100 euros new.

100 euros is bloody expensive for a lot of people  :|
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 15, 2015, 12:57:51 am
You get what you pay for though.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 15, 2015, 09:50:29 am
100€ might be a lot of money for a lot of people but it sure ain't much for a steering wheel... I checked the prices yesterday and Holy Shit  :shock:

Personally, I just feel that if I get one, I'd stop using it after a month. That would be a waste.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 15, 2015, 05:46:46 pm
Holy fuck Sweden is frustrating. It's incredibily hard to stabilize your car on that surface and then you have the narrowest track on the planet with deep snow that completely stops you or turns you completely once you even slightly touch it... at least the car damage is low because of that.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 15, 2015, 06:24:38 pm
Sweden is EZ mode, there's just that one tight 4 following a line of bumps right into a tree that reks me every time. I think I do prefer the Finland stages because of visibility issues on snow though. Finland and Sweden are both really enjoyable because of the high speed.

Personally, I just feel that if I get one, I'd stop using it after a month. That would be a waste.

That is the risk indeed, but you have to consider it as a long term investment too. I originally bought mine to play Assetto Corsa a year ago and now I'm also playing Dirt Rally with it, so I get decent mileage and it's not like it's going to break or anything.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 16, 2015, 06:51:56 pm
Tried one of the kit cars on a German stage. Those things are fast.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 16, 2015, 07:48:25 pm
That's why I like the daily online stages.
You get to drive all different cars on a single stage and you even get 3k-10k credits for it.

Wait till you get into the Hyundai or the Polo WRC! D:
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on December 16, 2015, 08:34:39 pm
Just did the weekly in Sweden with the Kadett. I though the Stratos had stability issues but this thing just doesn't want to drive straight at all.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 16, 2015, 08:49:01 pm
Just did the weekly in Sweden with the Kadett. I though the Stratos had stability issues but this thing just doesn't want to drive straight at all.
Told ya! :lol:
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 19, 2015, 04:52:40 pm
When watching, I feel like I drove there already. Similarities in some shots is amazing!

Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on December 27, 2015, 06:03:46 pm
Is it just me or are newer/better cars way more stable? I bought a Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2011 and compared to my previous Peugeot 205 T16 Evo2 it handles silky smooth. Maybe it's the Peugeot that handled like shit.
EDIT: Oh apparently this Peugeot I was driving is the only car with power/weight ratio of >0.5, which explains why it was impossible to handle if you weren't light on the gas pedal...
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2015, 07:43:26 pm
Those 205 were legendary back in the days as hot hatchbags. They're still fast even by modern standards.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on January 02, 2016, 06:45:11 pm
Managed to get to professional championship. Driving the Impreza compared to Peugeot 205 almost feels like cheating, so much easier to handle.

Also with the new car im having difficulties on completely different tracks, Sweden is now easy as shit, Wales is also pretty easy, however Greece... is fucking me up good.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 03, 2016, 12:48:52 am
The hillclimb 205 has an incredible tendency to fishtail on asphalt. That one and the other peugeot absolutely love to stall also.

Managed to get to professional championship. Driving the Impreza compared to Peugeot 205 almost feels like cheating, so much easier to handle.

Also with the new car im having difficulties on completely different tracks, Sweden is now easy as shit, Wales is also pretty easy, however Greece... is fucking me up good.

Sweden with bad weather is still horrible for me. Can't see the road. Wales requires care, but some Greece tracks are just outright devious. Doesn't feel like it with slow cars, only with faster ones.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 07, 2016, 08:49:51 pm
Like uncontrollable cars that will fishtail at the first hint of gas? Try the unambiguously named O37.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on January 08, 2016, 10:49:42 am
Played the daily challenge with Pine Peaks and that Peugeot Hillclimber... in rain... nightmare... but fun :D
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2016, 11:34:19 pm
I don't really understand how can anybody drive those in real life without assists. I suppose it's much easier to tell when you're about to lose grip (wheel helps a ton with that, but you don't feel the Gs).

I mean seriously I feel I'd probably be faster around a difficult track driving the O37 in reverse.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2016, 07:20:23 pm
Entered professional league. gitgud scrubs
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on January 25, 2016, 08:21:13 pm
Reminds of that one loading screen comment...

"You'll rise quickly... and regret it afterwards." or some such :P
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 25, 2016, 08:27:12 pm
Yeah "Rise to Masters, then regret it afterwards."
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Leshma on January 26, 2016, 02:30:34 am
Sébastien Loeb. He's French (technically) and his game is better.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on January 29, 2016, 04:22:23 pm
Entered professional league. gitgud scrubs

The problem I'm having in pro league is that there's a lot more of those super long tracks (12km+). It takes a toll on your time because the AI is more consistent than you and it's hard to finish the track without a single fuckup somewhere along the track. Your car is also wrecked completely from such long tracks. Though it feels good to finish 1st-3rd on such a track 8-)

I just finished 7/8th track in Sweden (was ~12km) and my engine is making a weird noise, so is my co-driver yapping something about it. And the last track is 11km+ long as well... I wonder if I make it lol.

Also, I lowered my FOV to 0.3 (first person). You see less on the edges because it's more zoomed in but you also see more of the track in the middle and less of the inside of the car. Makes it easier to drive for me, I feel like it's more in line with how your view is in real life. Had it up at 0.7 before and I think my screen had more car than track.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on January 29, 2016, 04:57:43 pm
I'll play around with Fov... sounds like good advice.

Sébastien Loeb. He's French (technically) and his game is better.
ok.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Leshma on January 29, 2016, 05:18:11 pm
Only for those who prefer simulation:


If you're like Molly, into Grids and Dirts then avoid it like a plague. Force feedback steering wheel is a must! Vibration toys don't count.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on January 29, 2016, 06:00:34 pm
The problem I'm having in pro league is that there's a lot more of those super long tracks (12km+). It takes a toll on your time because the AI is more consistent than you and it's hard to finish the track without a single fuckup somewhere along the track. Your car is also wrecked completely from such long tracks. Though it feels good to finish 1st-3rd on such a track 8-)

I just finished 7/8th track in Sweden (was ~12km) and my engine is making a weird noise, so is my co-driver yapping something about it. And the last track is 11km+ long as well... I wonder if I make it lol.

Also, I lowered my FOV to 0.3 (first person). You see less on the edges because it's more zoomed in but you also see more of the track in the middle and less of the inside of the car. Makes it easier to drive for me, I feel like it's more in line with how your view is in real life. Had it up at 0.7 before and I think my screen had more car than track.

Usually, accurate FoV is better in racing games. Your screen should give you view over the same angle as what it covers with respect to your sitting position. Of course, that's an extremely small FoV if you're not touching your screen with your nose, so a compromise has to be made. In rally you do need some view of your sides also.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: matt2507 on January 31, 2016, 04:16:00 am
Force feedback steering wheel is a must! Vibration toys don't count.

Amen.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on February 02, 2016, 05:44:36 pm
Together with the console release, they gonna update the PC too.
Some tracks, livery and...

CARS!

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Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak, Renault 5 Turbo, Renault Alpine A110, Opel Corsa Super 1600, Peugeot 207 S1600, Renault Clio S1600, Mini Classic Rallycross

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Read 3 different tests... all 3 state that the car physic on Dirt Rally is better by a good margin. Not to mention that the above suffers from rather big technical issues.
But I am sure you played both extensively, you know better.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on February 03, 2016, 09:27:09 pm
Can't wait for the Renault 5 and the Alpine.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Molly on February 04, 2016, 09:08:08 am
From a quick glimpse, the Alpine looks awesome!
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Vibe on February 04, 2016, 09:14:00 am
european cars BLEH

japanese ftw

subaru impreza all the way
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on February 04, 2016, 07:47:45 pm
Would definitely like a Celica and a Lancer Evolution IV. But first, the Xsara WRC.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Kafein on March 06, 2016, 08:28:50 pm
After updating my Oculus Rift runtime to 0.8, the game just decided to go into VR mode. I didn't knew they implemented that and it's fucking awesome. They still need to fix the ranking and setup screens in VR a bit but the driving part is pure pleasure. Being able to turn your head is tremendously useful in very tight corners, and the 3D effect gives me a much better feel for the size of the car and my speed.
Title: Re: Dirt Rally or Yay! Colin McRae Rally is finally back!
Post by: Krave on March 10, 2016, 01:24:17 pm
And here I'm tryharding Colin 05 / Dirt 3 / WRC 4 cuz no proper steering wheel