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Title: Fallout 4
Post by: Thovex on June 02, 2015, 04:57:26 pm
How to make Fallout 4 PC not feel like shit

Fix an otherwise amazing game. INIs are located in C:\Users\{YOUR NAME}\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\

Problem 1: Mouse aiming feels like shit because of mouse acceleration

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Controls] section of both files, add this line:
    bMouseAcceleration=0


Problem 2: Mouse aiming still feels like shit because vertical sensitivity is half as much as horizontal (seriously Bethesda?)

    Open Fallout4.ini
    In the [Controls] section, find fMouseHeadingXScale
    On the next line, make fMouseHeadingYScale 2x the amount of fMouseHeadingXScale


Problem 3: The FOV is locked at 70/80 because you're playing this on a couch from 8 feet away with a controller, right? Oh, you aren't?

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Display] section of both files, add the following lines:
    fDefaultWorldFOV=90
    fDefault1stPersonFOV=90
    90 is the default FOV of most FPS games, but you can change that to whatever makes you happy



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Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 02, 2015, 05:01:55 pm
Hell yes!
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2015, 05:03:00 pm
Boston or Philadelphia is what i'd bet that they'd put the next Fallout in.

I'd prefer Los Angeles or New York though.
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on June 02, 2015, 05:03:59 pm
I guess that will be just a development announcement, right?
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Leesin on June 02, 2015, 05:04:56 pm
Boston or Philadelphia is what i'd bet that they'd put the next Fallout in.

I'd prefer Los Angeles or New York though.

It's going to be in Australia.
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2015, 05:41:44 pm
It's going to be in Australia.


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Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Thovex on June 02, 2015, 05:45:22 pm
Most likely Boston because
http://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Casimir on June 02, 2015, 06:14:30 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: gallonigher on June 02, 2015, 06:42:22 pm
So...uh  What's in Boston?

1. (MIT)
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Leesin on June 02, 2015, 08:48:27 pm
Not sure how hyped I am about this, after playing FO3 and FNV extensively and then again with intense modding, this would really need to be bringing a lot of new shit to the table for me to piss my pants about it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Laufknoten on June 02, 2015, 09:01:12 pm
Fallout 1 HD - Remaster or Fallout: Online :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: 722_ on June 02, 2015, 09:35:57 pm
yay! its about time

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Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2015, 09:45:22 pm
Not sure how hyped I am about this, after playing FO3 and FNV extensively and then again with intense modding, this would really need to be bringing a lot of new shit to the table for me to piss my pants about it.

Inb4 Co-Op and naked sex scenes ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 02, 2015, 09:48:43 pm
Fallout 1 HD - Remaster or Fallout: Online :D

Beth wouldn't touch the originials with a 50ft pole.

Fallout online crashed and burned along with interplay.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Nightmare798 on June 02, 2015, 09:50:04 pm
I will become believer of any god that assures this game will not run on gamebryo egine or any of its variation...
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Banok on June 02, 2015, 10:28:45 pm
I guess that will be just a development announcement, right?

This is the interesting question. *puts on detective hat*

Skyrim:
announced December 11, 2010
released on November 11, 2011

bethesda game studios is the developer of ES series, bethesda softworks is the publisher. Important because alot of idiots still think its the same developers as dishonored, ESO etc. etc.

anyway the last thing FO4 dev did was last skyrim dlc release in feb 2013. in april 2013 they announce moving to to next project.

I think its safe to assume pre production of FO4 would start after skyrim release in 2011/2012, only content guys left on skyrim dlc. then full production in 2013.

full production length 2.5 years. which isn't much. however the gap between fo3 and oblivion was quite short because they didn't focus that much on upgrading engine/graphics.

whereas with skyrim they spent alot of time upgrading engine graphics, it seems unlikely they will bother doing that again until ES6

I instead fo4 tech could be very similiar to skyrim and it so could come out fall 2015. While this means fo4 won't look much better than skyrim on PC, it obviously means fo4 will look much better than skyrim on consoles because they are a new generation.

the equivalent graphical leap jump of skyrim from ps3 to ps4 is enough to satify the ignorant masses, they don't need to spend more on tech since they know fallout will sell like crazy either way.

TLDR: FO4 could come out this year and look worse than witcher.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Golem on June 02, 2015, 10:33:12 pm
I hate the Skyrim/Fallout gameplay..
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Jona on June 02, 2015, 10:35:17 pm
So...uh  What's in Boston?

1. (MIT)

...and MIT is in Cambridge.  :P

Anyways, Boston does have the Freedom Trail (lol), Fenway Park, a harbor with some tea in it, and nothing else really but some old architecture.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Mala on June 02, 2015, 11:39:27 pm
bethesda? i will pass.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 02, 2015, 11:53:48 pm
So...uh  What's in Boston?

1. (MIT)

Bombings
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: darmaster on June 03, 2015, 12:15:05 am
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Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 12:35:45 am
I hope they add realistic shooting mechanics, instead of having everything being randomized. Can't wait.
Title: Re: New Fallout
Post by: Casimir on June 03, 2015, 01:09:39 am

TLDR: FO4 could come out this year and look worse than witcher.

Yeah but who cares, fallout games are always enjoyable.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 01:33:57 am
Holy shit Nightmare was permanently banned, how did this come to pass?
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 01:40:31 am
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Half Life 4 cunfirmed
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 02:44:40 am
Fucking hope it's fallout 4, waited long enough.

EDIT: The Wait Was Worth!
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Leesin on June 03, 2015, 05:07:34 am
Holy shit Nightmare was permanently banned, how did this come to pass?

He was muted at first probably for his retarded outbursts in a couple of threads within a small time frame, I can only imagine he perhaps messaged the moderator whining and pissing his pants and got himself Perma'd lol. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Thovex on June 03, 2015, 08:54:24 am
Holy shit Nightmare was permanently banned, how did this come to pass?

thanks gaben
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Molly on June 03, 2015, 10:23:02 am
...while Xant puts on his "Victim-Seeking-Goggles".
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2015, 10:51:19 am
so half-life 3 confirmed?
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 10:59:09 am
I don't have access to the timer/official site. Is it because I've been using firefox and chrome ?
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Thovex on June 03, 2015, 11:19:42 am
works fine for me on chrome
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 12:06:24 pm
Doesn't really matter anyway, I'll be there at 4pm.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: darmaster on June 03, 2015, 12:23:08 pm
Apparently analyzing the css code no idea what that is they've seen it'll come out for 5 platforms, x360 and ps3 too.

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/styles/3d395ab9.main.css

Plus fallout-3-special-module
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 12:26:33 pm


Lol it leaked
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Leesin on June 03, 2015, 12:46:02 pm


Lol it leaked

Lol, the best part about that video is the retard on the youtube comment who points out it's not real.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2015, 03:03:37 pm
http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Thovex on June 03, 2015, 03:27:20 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 04:01:49 pm
The twitch chat gave me another cancer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 04:02:57 pm

Fuck Twitch watch this



''The trailer confirms reports the next entry in the franchise will take place in The Commonwealth - the fictional universe's version of Massachusetts that’s been referenced in prior games. In Fallout 3 side quest The Replicated Man, players encounter a scientist named Dr. Zimmer who comes from The Commonwealth, a “war-ravaged quagmire of violence and despair” where he notes he and his colleagues created androids that have escaped and are running wild. Zimmer also references The Institute, which it seems is a future version of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

The Commonwealth also contains the Railroad, which runs in direct opposition to the Institute and aims to rescue the androids that have been created. A branch of the Commonwealth Police known as the Synth Retention Bureau is in charge of capturing androids that have escaped from the Institute.''


http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/03/fallout-4-officially-revealed-by-teaser-site
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 03, 2015, 04:09:42 pm
The trailer has places from DC in it though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Casimir on June 03, 2015, 04:10:21 pm
The only thing that peaked my interest was the air ship, still look forward to hearing more at e3.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 04:11:26 pm
Power armors... I'm all hyped now.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 03, 2015, 04:15:00 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 03, 2015, 04:16:46 pm
I dunno, parts looked really good, others didn't. I guess we'll have to wait until 14th June.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 04:20:32 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 03, 2015, 04:47:01 pm
Looks like the main character has a voice in the end, maybe they will finally give the main character a voice throughout the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 05:00:30 pm
All i want is a Fallout game and not a crappy mod where i can play as the Enclave. Need to bring America back to America.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Molly on June 03, 2015, 05:36:06 pm
Wow, seems they gave things actual color this time! Instead of several variations on... well... brown.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 06:09:43 pm
If I were Bethesda i'd make my next big game be either fully in alien-speak with subtitles, or half voice acted like Banjo Kazooie - makes it really easy for modders to add content without jarring transition to non-voiceacted material, or embarrassingly bad quality voice acting from the modders.

Skyrim and Oblivion mods.... Oh look, the NPC has stopped speaking and everything is now in text, I wonder if this was in the original game or one of my mods...

In some mods there's a voice over done by the modders with nerdy voices (lel)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 06:23:26 pm
In some mods there's a voice over done by the modders with nerdy voices (lel)
Some mods can be very good in the voice acting apartment.

like the Inigo follower on Skyrim;
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 06:27:15 pm
Graphics and animations look like straight out of Fallout 3. Guess it's true it's coming out on PS3 and X360, then.

And that's the only thing the trailer showed, so not much else to talk about. That trailer could have pretty much been made in Fallout 3....
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 06:38:21 pm
Graphics and animations look like straight out of Fallout 3. Guess it's true it's coming out on PS3 and X360, then.

And that's the only thing the trailer showed, so not much else to talk about. That trailer could have pretty much been made in Fallout 3....
That's just an announcement trailer though, it's not meant to be much really. I think e3 will be the place where it gets shown in full quality.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 06:39:15 pm
I don't think it's promising that a highly touched up and cinematic announcement trailer looks as bad as F3 animation and graphics wise.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 03, 2015, 07:09:24 pm
Gief fallout 1,2 and tactics in updated graphics please, new wasteland 2 engine would be kewl.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Banok on June 03, 2015, 07:16:26 pm
From screenshots (before watching video) I was prediciting them to show us custom modding guns/suits in your own house/workshop, and dog scaveging for you. This had me hoping there is more of survival gameplay, I enjoyed the HC mode in new vegas.

Then all we got was some scenery, flashbacks and dog doing regular dog things. So yeah does look like a very safe sequel both graphically and in gameplay (we've seen or not seen so far). I don't mind too much, will still be fun and wont shit on my gpu like witcher 3 does.

at least this trailer's visuals won't be downgraded on release  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 03, 2015, 07:40:36 pm
Who cares the graphics aren't A+++++ tier, mods will accomplish that anyway.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 07:44:42 pm
Who cares the graphics aren't A+++++ tier, mods will accomplish that anyway.
Pretty much everyone? Graphics are an important aspect of games in the year of our lord 2015. Even people who go "pfft, graphics" can usually be seen being super excited when a game does have great graphics. There's no excuse to having shitty graphics for a big studio like Bethesda. And I don't think anyone is saying the game will be ruined because it has shit graphics, it's just one aspect of what makes a game good (and the only one we can see from the trailer.)

I'm more concerned/annoyed about the animations, they gave me instant Fallout 3 flashbacks, super stiff and unbelievable.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Molly on June 03, 2015, 07:55:51 pm
Just had my very first newsletter telling me to pre-order Fallout 4. Seriously... I mean... c'mon...

I am pretty stupid when it comes to pre-ordering and stubborn at that too but... well...

And about the graphics, I agree with Xant. Graphics isn't everything but a big part nonetheless. One of the reasons I just could not enjoy New Vegas. It just looked awful although I whole-heartedly enjoyed Fallout 3. I simply couldn't endure the exact same look in New Vegas. There were other things I didn't like but crappy graphics played a role...

PS: Please don't start a discussion if 3 was better than New Vegas or vice versa. More a question of taste and belief than factual arguments, no point, we've been there. :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Leesin on June 03, 2015, 08:03:39 pm
Wow, looks ugly.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 08:18:55 pm
Good graphics come in different shapes.

Pillars of Eternity has good graphics.
Team Fortress 2 has good graphics.
Witcher 3 has good graphics.

Each of those games has a very different art direction and required system specs.

Fallout 4's graphics look ugly because the art direction is bad for 2006-era wannabe realistic graphics. The worst part was when they showed the "colorful" stuff, it looked horrible. It can look stylish and artsy when it's just in colors of brown, and thus good enough, but eh.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 08:29:30 pm
Just had my very first newsletter telling me to pre-order Fallout 4. Seriously... I mean... c'mon...

I am pretty stupid when it comes to pre-ordering and stubborn at that too but... well...

And about the graphics, I agree with Xant. Graphics isn't everything but a big part nonetheless. One of the reasons I just could not enjoy New Vegas. It just looked awful although I whole-heartedly enjoyed Fallout 3. I simply couldn't endure the exact same look in New Vegas. There were other things I didn't like but crappy graphics played a role...

PS: Please don't start a discussion if 3 was better than New Vegas or vice versa. More a question of taste and belief than factual arguments, no point, we've been there. :D

New Vegas was so much better than F3 though.

But you can't judge a game by a trailer. Remember ones whining about Witcher 3 graphics after it came out and comparing it to the trailer. Maybe this will be the opposite.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: gallonigher on June 03, 2015, 08:29:51 pm
Wow, looks ugly.

Modders usually improve all Bethesda games in every way imaginable.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: Jona on June 03, 2015, 08:33:56 pm
The trailer has places from DC in it though.

Wow I didn't realize that the US only had one obelisk in all of the 50 states.  :rolleyes:


To me it looks like the one shown in the trailer could very well be the Bunker Hill Monument, which is indeed in Boston:

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Unless there was something else that "screamed DC" that somehow I missed.
Title: Re: Fallout 4: ???
Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 08:41:36 pm
Wow I didn't realize that the US only had one obelisk in all of the 50 states.  :rolleyes:


To me it looks like the one shown in the trailer could very well be the Bunker Hill Monument, which is indeed in Boston:

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Unless there was something else that "screamed DC" that somehow I missed.

It takes place in the fictional Commonwealth a.ka Massachusetts/Boston which is what Los Santos is to Los Angeles i guess.

This was in the trailer too.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: darmaster on June 03, 2015, 09:06:37 pm
Hmm I don't see why I should wait for modders to do what bethesda should do; plus most of the times there are compatibility problems, let the B. Guys tweak graphics on par with 2015 standards. Well anyway they're not showing something ridiculously heavy just to downgrade it, seems fair for now. Animations are meh I agree, let's wait and hope
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 09:38:27 pm
Come on guys..you all can't really be thinking Bethesda Game Studios will fail on graphics...

(the company that made Morrowind to Oblivion to Fallout 3 to Skyrim)

If we are talking about graphics here; from Morrowind the graphics got better with each new game, i highly doubt it that they will use the same graphics as fallout 3, when Skyrim jumped so far ahead from it in visual aesthetics. not once has Bethesda ever failed on the graphics of their game, never. They have always improved on it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 09:49:47 pm
Which game studios hasn't improved on their graphics in a sequel? That's empty praise. The issue here is that from the looks of it they've improved very little. Obviously it isn't EXACTLY the same as F3.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 03, 2015, 10:07:56 pm
Its hard to say what the graphics will be at the final state, when it just got announced, and i dont really give a shit about the pixels anyways. It could take a step back in graphics for all i care, as long as it makes up for it in gameplay. New vegas was an alright game overall, and this should probably land on the same. Untill they actually improve gameplay i wont be too amazed with these games. Witcher 3 seems to be taking a step forward as far as gameplay goes, need to pick it up soon but apparently even it falls short later on when you get some levels, and difficulty shatters.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2015, 10:08:44 pm
Is it me or does the style seem kinda Bioshockish.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tor! on June 03, 2015, 10:13:59 pm
I'll be looking forward to it, but I share some of the concerns as well. If it's really being made for x360 and ps3 as well.. that would be sad news  :|
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Mala on June 03, 2015, 10:28:32 pm
... New vegas was an alright game overall, and this should probably land on the same. ...

uhuh, new vegas was made by obsidian and not bethesda.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Angantyr on June 03, 2015, 10:46:27 pm
Let's hope it gets proper writing, what really matters in a Fallout game. And consequently be more like FNV than F3.

The MIT and android theme could be interesting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2015, 11:15:51 pm
Come on guys..you all can't really be thinking Bethesda Game Studios will fail on graphics...

(the company that made Morrowind to Oblivion to Fallout 3 to Skyrim)

If we are talking about graphics here; from Morrowind the graphics got better with each new game, i highly doubt it that they will use the same graphics as fallout 3, when Skyrim jumped so far ahead from it in visual aesthetics. not once has Bethesda ever failed on the graphics of their game, never. They have always improved on it.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Algarn on June 03, 2015, 11:19:41 pm
Lets hope people will create graphic packs with like with skyrim, so it doesn't stay ugly. I also strongly disagree on the fact that graphics are unimportant to a game, they are essential for immersion, as much as the respect of the story/lore and the sense of quests.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: cmp on June 03, 2015, 11:27:52 pm
I don't think it's promising that a highly touched up and cinematic announcement trailer looks as bad as F3 animation and graphics wise.

Are you sure? Fallout 3 didn't even have shadows.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2015, 11:28:39 pm
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I was trying to figure out which game the second screen is, I was thinking Sims 2, then maybe some old GTA... but it's from the F4 trailer, isn't it?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 03, 2015, 11:37:28 pm
I was trying to figure out which game the second screen is, I was thinking Sims 2, then maybe some old GTA... but it's from the F4 trailer, isn't it?
For once Xant i can actually be on the same level as you here and i know what you're talking about. But i guarantee it won't look bad when the game releases.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 04, 2015, 12:49:54 am
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Doesn't look like it's made for PS3/Xbox 360 tbh.

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I'm not gonna complain about graphics from a trailer lmao. And even if they are not amazing - easy mods.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 01:00:24 am
Yeah and even if the gameplay sucks - mods. Even if the story is crap - well there's mods. And if they screw up the UI? Mods.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 04, 2015, 01:02:36 am
ur the one complaining about graphics. my point was about graphics.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Algarn on June 04, 2015, 01:05:33 am
That's a pessimistic view there, they might have learned some things about how to make a good gameplay, story, and UI after that much time.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 01:09:42 am
ur the one complaining about graphics. my point was about graphics.
Yes? And? My point obviously is that "mods will fix it" isn't a valid counter-argument or a defense for the state of the graphics. It's not the modders' job to fix the graphics. Or the same thing could be said about everything, even if the game is complete garbage "well mods will fix it."

And Algarn, I wasn't implying the gameplay, story and UI will suck. But if it turns out they suck, then saying "mods will take care of it" would be just as stupid as talking about mods fixing graphics years before the game is even released.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: DaveUKR on June 04, 2015, 01:18:12 am
Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2015, 01:28:01 am
Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.

How can u play Fallout? Aren't u busy dodging supreme leader Pootin and Sovijeeet Oonion 2.0 and their soldiers? )))))
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Algarn on June 04, 2015, 01:30:24 am
Yes? And? My point obviously is that "mods will fix it" isn't a valid counter-argument or a defense for the state of the graphics. It's not the modders' job to fix the graphics. Or the same thing could be said about everything, even if the game is complete garbage "well mods will fix it."

And Algarn, I wasn't implying the gameplay, story and UI will suck. But if it turns out they suck, then saying "mods will take care of it" would be just as stupid as talking about mods fixing graphics years before the game is even released.

One can not predict the future obviously, I think Bethesda will do a good job and mods will fill their part of work for once, being optional. I respect a lot modders for providing an enhanced gameplay compared to the vanilla version Bethesda is offering to us players on games like Oblivion, Skirim, FO3/NV. I was looking for a survival/hard experience that wasn't included in the games. This being said, as I wrote above, I just hope like you that the game won't stay on these graphics, and I also hope the gameplay will be have some kind of extremely hardcore mode based on survival and tactical choices about who you should fight or not, so I don't have to mod the shit out of it.

And Dave is training for the WW3 and after in his free time. :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Golem on June 04, 2015, 01:32:25 am
I hope you play the dog..
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 01:36:07 am
Well, honestly I didn't use much of mods when I played Beth games (at first I finished them without mods at all and enjoyed it, then I replayed Skyrim, F3 and FNV w/ them). The only mods that I used were pretty much hardcore mods adding some certain realism. So when you say UI sucks - I say fuck UI, the less the better.
When people talk about UI sucking it's not because they think there's "not enough UI"...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Algarn on June 04, 2015, 01:38:27 am
When people talk about UI sucking it's not because they think there's "not enough UI"...

Some people are hardcore, while some want their character to be a machine, with no need of water, food, or sleep, immune to diseases, etc.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 04, 2015, 02:03:09 am
Each to their own. But having a discussion on how shit the game will be, when there isn't even any game play of it yet. That's just ignorant and doesn't make sense.

Morrowind; 10/10 Countless awards.
Oblivion; 10/10 Countless awards.
Fallout 1 2 and 3; 10/10 Countless awards.
Skyrim; 10/10 Countless awards.

And now all of a sudden before any game play what so ever, This "looks" like it's gonna be a disappointment. No, not a fucking chance.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: darmaster on June 04, 2015, 02:20:57 am
Yes but oblivion>skyrim remember; as I said in the witcher 3 thread, I won't judge much before the game is out, surely not the gameplay since I haven't seen any bit of it yet, but relying on mods is not always a positive thing as xant said.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 02:21:12 am
Each to their own. But having a discussion on how shit the game will be, when there isn't even any game play of it yet. That's just ignorant and doesn't make sense.

Morrowind; 10/10 Countless awards.
Oblivion; 10/10 Countless awards.
Fallout 1 2 and 3; 10/10 Countless awards.
Skyrim; 10/10 Countless awards.

And now all of a sudden before any game play what so ever, This "looks" like it's gonna be a disappointment. No, not a fucking chance.

I had no idea Bethesda developed Fallout 1 and 2.

Oblivion and Skyrim being 10/10...

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Also, who the fuck's been talking about "how shit the game will be"?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 04, 2015, 02:36:32 am
Once a forum derp, forever a forum derp. rip thred
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Richyy on June 04, 2015, 06:30:20 am
You can pre purchase it on steam, no release date.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: 722_ on June 04, 2015, 10:59:44 am
ok so why have all pc games gone from £30 new to £50 new? Fucking ridiculous
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 04, 2015, 10:59:53 am
uhuh, new vegas was made by obsidian and not bethesda.

So? Its not like the strayed far from the concept F3 followed. Highly doubt 4 will be much different from NV and 3, safe is probably the best anyways.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: F i n on June 04, 2015, 11:27:12 am
Pretty much everyone? Graphics are an important aspect of games in the year of our lord 2015. Even people who go "pfft, graphics" can usually be seen being super excited when a game does have great graphics. There's no excuse to having shitty graphics for a big studio like Bethesda. And I don't think anyone is saying the game will be ruined because it has shit graphics, it's just one aspect of what makes a game good (and the only one we can see from the trailer.)

I'm more concerned/annoyed about the animations, they gave me instant Fallout 3 flashbacks, super stiff and unbelievable.

That's actually true. After having like 10 big games published - and still not having fixed ANY of the Gameplay issues... that's a bit sad.

Afer all Skyrim = Morrowind when it comes to combat-animation (except for some fancy slowmo-finishers that no one actually needs...).

Great athmo though, and nice graphics as well. But i really missed the depth of games like Mass effect / Witcher. Some actual Story - not just a big sandbox with an overpowered, yet silent & pale hero.


God damn it - if only cd-project would make all games...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2015, 11:31:23 am
I thought Skyrim was average, even back then when it was all fresh and shiny. Comparing it to Witcher 3 now, it's worlds below. Bethesda is going to have to give it their best if they want to compete with Witcher 3.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Teeth on June 04, 2015, 12:10:39 pm
Yeah, I gotta say that the Witcher 3 demonstrated the level of detail that can be done in an open world RPG, creating a living world with convincing characters throughout, extensive voice-acting, good cutscenes and side quests with proper storylines that are far more interesting than the fetch quests that are often in Bethesda games. I loved Fallout 3, but this was for a big part because of the very charming setting of Fallout. It is 2015 now and the Witcher 3 demonstrated to me that games have come a long way. Fallout needs a big step up, Fallout 3.5 won't do.

This trailer does not show any gameplay, it hints at some features perhaps, but the main reveal is graphics and the setting. It is perfectly possible and fair to judge that the graphics look rather underwhelming at this stage, don't have to go all defensive immediately.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 04, 2015, 01:25:27 pm
Lol Beth ain't need to do shit. Fanboys gonna fanboy.

Besides that I must be the only one here who enjoys the vanilla elder scrolls games.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 04, 2015, 02:04:07 pm
I had no idea Bethesda developed Fallout 1 and 2.
I didn't say Fallout 1 and 2 was made by Bethesda you half a pasty..

They were both great games, Bethesda obviously took over and made Fallout 3 and didn't fail the series and they did take the risk of changing the whole series into a totally new genre.

Even mentioning graphics on an RPG game announcement trailer is laughable. I'm no way near a hardcore gamer what so ever, i'm as close to a casual as you will ever get but i know that graphics in a Fallout game is like putting Chocolate Sauce and fucking sprinkles on Chocolate ice cream. It's not fucking needed. Then you get the virgins saying "well if witcher 3 can have good graphics then so can everything else"

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 04, 2015, 02:11:21 pm
Its hard to say what the graphics will be at the final state, when it just got announced, and i dont really give a shit about the pixels anyways. It could take a step back in graphics for all i care, as long as it makes up for it in gameplay. New vegas was an alright game overall, and this should probably land on the same. Untill they actually improve gameplay i wont be too amazed with these games. Witcher 3 seems to be taking a step forward as far as gameplay goes, need to pick it up soon but apparently even it falls short later on when you get some levels, and difficulty shatters.

Witcher 3 took a step forward with gameplay?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 02:23:33 pm
I didn't say Fallout 1 and 2 was made by Bethesda you half a pasty..

They were both great games, Bethesda obviously took over and made Fallout 3 and didn't fail the series and they did take the risk of changing the whole series into a totally new genre.

Even mentioning graphics on an RPG game announcement trailer is laughable. I'm no way near a hardcore gamer what so ever, i'm as close to a casual as you will ever get but i know that graphics in a Fallout game is like putting Chocolate Sauce and fucking sprinkles on Chocolate ice cream. It's not fucking needed. Then you get the virgins saying "well if witcher 3 can have good graphics then so can everything else"

Why would you list F1 and 2 then? Made by a different studio, completely irrelevant how good they were or weren't.

Bethesda changed the series because they already had the framework ready from Oblivion. F3 was good but not as good as the earlier Fallouts.

Go play some text-based MUDs then if you don't care about graphics. What's that, you won't? Oh, what a surprise.

Exploration is one of the best aspects about Bethesda games and good graphics make it a lot more fun while bad graphics take away from it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: [ptx] on June 04, 2015, 02:50:29 pm
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Teeth on June 04, 2015, 03:05:06 pm
I didn't say Fallout 1 and 2 was made by Bethesda you half a pasty..

They were both great games, Bethesda obviously took over and made Fallout 3 and didn't fail the series and they did take the risk of changing the whole series into a totally new genre.

Even mentioning graphics on an RPG game announcement trailer is laughable. I'm no way near a hardcore gamer what so ever, i'm as close to a casual as you will ever get but i know that graphics in a Fallout game is like putting Chocolate Sauce and fucking sprinkles on Chocolate ice cream. It's not fucking needed. Then you get the virgins saying "well if witcher 3 can have good graphics then so can everything else"
What, I don't think there are any genres that rely more on story and worldbuilding over gameplay than RPGs. Good graphics assist the suspension of disbelief and thus make the world and atmosphere a much more intense experience. If Fallout 3 would have had a draw distance of 10 meters, that first view out of that Vault wouldn't have been nearly as awesome.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Overdriven on June 04, 2015, 03:07:17 pm
Fallout could get away with average graphics if it had a good story. But the story in 3 was balls. That's not to say 4 won't be better. But if the graphics are average and the story crap then it will be crap over all.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2015, 04:31:50 pm
Fallout could get away with average graphics if it had a good story. But the story in 3 was balls. That's not to say 4 won't be better. But if the graphics are average and the story crap then it will be crap over all.

From what i read from some news sites and shit it seems...

''The trailer confirms reports the next entry in the franchise will take place in The Commonwealth - the fictional universe's version of Massachusetts that’s been referenced in prior games. In Fallout 3 side quest The Replicated Man, players encounter a scientist named Dr. Zimmer who comes from The Commonwealth, a “war-ravaged quagmire of violence and despair” where he notes he and his colleagues created androids that have escaped and are running wild. Zimmer also references The Institute, which it seems is a future version of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

The Commonwealth also contains the Railroad, which runs in direct opposition to the Institute and aims to rescue the androids that have been created. A branch of the Commonwealth Police known as the Synth Retention Bureau is in charge of capturing androids that have escaped from the Institute''

So tons of factions and something tells me MIT will be ''evil'' alongside the Police and story will basically be a robot fetish. I'd bet the map will look like a mixture of New Vegas/F3 and RAGE
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 04, 2015, 04:36:26 pm
I honestly don't think it looks bad from what i've seen. Maybe it's not as good looking as Witcher 3 because it might be 100x bigger than that game, we don't know yet.

I'm done on this thread anyway. June 14th is when i will place my bets on how it's going to be.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2015, 05:18:16 pm
I honestly don't think it looks bad from what i've seen. Maybe it's not as good looking as Witcher 3 because it might be 100x bigger than that game, we don't know yet.

I'm done on this thread anyway. June 14th is when i will place my bets on how it's going to be.

Do you know how big Witcher 3 is? Even 3x bigger than it would be a crowning achievement.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: DaveUKR on June 04, 2015, 08:07:27 pm
How can u play Fallout? Aren't u busy dodging supreme leader Pootin and Sovijeeet Oonion 2.0 and their soldiers? )))))

Well, was it necessary to mention that I played both games before that?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Siiem on June 04, 2015, 09:10:31 pm
Each to their own. But having a discussion on how shit the game will be, when there isn't even any game play of it yet. That's just ignorant and doesn't make sense.

Morrowind; 10/10 Countless awards.
Oblivion; 10/10 Countless awards.
Fallout 1 2 and 3; 10/10 Countless awards.
Skyrim; 10/10 Countless awards.

And now all of a sudden before any game play what so ever, This "looks" like it's gonna be a disappointment. No, not a fucking chance.

Gameplay wise, all those games were/are failures. (I haven't played MW). You play those games for the story, exploration and quest. Feck, Oblivion and Skyrim's combat is so boring and gay Elton John tried to marry them.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2015, 09:17:06 pm
Well, was it necessary to mention that I played both games before that?

Yes. Great leader Pootin will steal ur games soon )))) Davaj Davaj
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 04, 2015, 09:24:48 pm
Gameplay wise, all those games were/are failures. (I haven't played MW). You play those games for the story, exploration and quest. Feck, Oblivion and Skyrim's combat is so boring and gay Elton John tried to marry them.

I could never get into MW due to the retardation of the stamina aspect. Yet supposedly the story was amazing as was the exploration (no levelling with char)

Oblivion was an excellent story and I thoroughly enjoyed the playthrough, especially all the side quests and DLC.

Skyrim...not a major fan, boring story, good civil war story, but that for me was it, I just grew bored way too easily.

Witcher brings an excellent storyline, ok side quests, and a rich environment with a relatively decent combat system and magic not being OP as fuck
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 04, 2015, 10:57:54 pm
Gameplay wise, all those games were/are failures. (I haven't played MW). You play those games for the story, exploration and quest. Feck, Oblivion and Skyrim's combat is so boring and gay Elton John tried to marry them.
jesus...christ.. that's the rating they got and each of them got game of the year, they are obviously great games. I didn't give them that score or them awards. So if you don't like them then go find other games to play, oh and leave this thread then. Saying Fallout 1 2 and 3 were failures on gameplay, you're clearly not interested in Fallout 4, so do us all a favor and fuck off? Think about it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: darmaster on June 04, 2015, 11:04:28 pm
well dragon age inquisition is also considered a great game lel
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2015, 11:14:27 pm
well dragon age inquisition is also considered a great game lel

Witcher games and Portal games are also considered ''great'' games lel
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2015, 11:54:32 pm
jesus...christ.. that's the rating they got and each of them got game of the year, they are obviously great games. I didn't give them that score or them awards. So if you don't like them then go find other games to play, oh and leave this thread then. Saying Fallout 1 2 and 3 were failures on gameplay, you're clearly not interested in Fallout 4, so do us all a favor and fuck off? Think about it.
Wow, really, 10/10 is the rating they got? Who gave them this rating? The president of the Universe? Or was it the Finland President Man?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: darmaster on June 05, 2015, 12:38:15 am
Witcher games and Portal games are also considered ''great'' games lel

Well for the first witchers I kinda agree, shitty overrated games imo, third one tho
Title: CONSPIRACY
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 05, 2015, 01:33:22 am
Fallout 4 details that was released almost a year ago!
Looking at the trailer.....i think this all looks true!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 05, 2015, 01:36:35 am
Wow, really, 10/10 is the rating they got? Who gave them this rating? The president of the Universe? Or was it the Finland President Man?
Go and look at the steam meta scores for them, and that's just steam. Yes they're so bad it's embarrassing right?

Your opinion is your own, but they're no way near bad games. You just chat out of your batty crease, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Listen, having a 5+ posts per day record on melee.org just tells me what sort of person you are Xant, now i would understand if you're under 18, but if you're not, then i feel very sorry for your penis, it must get no action. But if trolling people on this forum all-day-everyday makes your pencil sharp then atleast your not out spreading your genes around Finland, just make sure you don't regret it when you're on your death bed, my mate.
Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: LordBerenger on June 05, 2015, 01:45:53 am
Fallout 4 details that was released almost a year ago!
Looking at the trailer.....i think this all looks true!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new)

Damm that might be true. Lel can't play as a girl though? And no Enclave? Phuq dat. Enclave must be in there. Without Enclave, America is lost.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 01:58:19 am
Go and look at the steam meta scores for them, and that's just steam. Yes they're so bad it's embarrassing right?

Your opinion is your own, but they're no way near bad games. You just chat out of your batty crease, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Listen, having a 5+ posts per day record on melee.org just tells me what sort of person you are Xant, now i would understand if you're under 18, but if you're not, then i feel very sorry for your penis, it must get no action. But if trolling people on this forum all-day-everyday makes your pencil sharp then atleast your not out spreading your genes around Finland, just make sure you don't regret it when you're on your death bed, my mate.
None of them have 10/10 on Steam, retard. And when did I claim they were bad? Seriously, your reading comprehension is on the level of a five year old. "omg someone says the graphics are bad that means PEOPLE ARE SAYIN THE GAME WILL SUKC!!!!!!!"

So in a shocking turn of events, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I never claimed they were bad games, they're just nowhere near "10/10."

5+ posts per day, wow, that must take at least.... thirty seconds to three minutes. Wow! What a contribution. Actually, probably takes you about 30 minutes to write one post, so I guess I know why you're confused. And coming from someone whose full time job is posting selfies on the Vanguard forum? The hilarity can be almost felt.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 05, 2015, 03:00:22 am
There aren't even any new posts since last month on the vanguard forum lmao.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 04:14:00 am
There aren't even any new posts since last month on the vanguard forum lmao.
Wow #gottem lmao
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 05, 2015, 07:42:51 am
I'm no way near a hardcore gamer what so ever, i'm as close to a casual as you will ever get

Few months ago you used to play cRPG basically every day for a few hours (I know because I was there as well). Sorry to break it to you, but that's not what we call "casual gaming".
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 07:58:30 am
And even now he became an admin because he's active.

More like SaxonNERD, am I right or am I straight?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Siiem on June 05, 2015, 08:56:41 am
jesus...christ.. that's the rating they got and each of them got game of the year, they are obviously great games. I didn't give them that score or them awards. So if you don't like them then go find other games to play, oh and leave this thread then. Saying Fallout 1 2 and 3 were failures on gameplay, you're clearly not interested in Fallout 4, so do us all a favor and fuck off? Think about it.

I'll play Fallout.

And even now he became an admin because he's active.

More like SaxonNERD, am I right or am I straight?

You're pretty queer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 09:50:27 am

You're pretty queer.
So you're saying I'm right.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Jacko on June 05, 2015, 10:14:41 am
Game looks fine. Interesting to see that they didn't pre-render stuff ingame. Doubt they'll achieve Fallout 1-2 greatness, but they aren't really aiming for that either.

Witcher 3 set the bar real high for open world game, gonna be interesting to see if they can deliver.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 05, 2015, 10:19:17 am
You're pretty queer.

well if he looks like a quare and sounds like a quare
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Siiem on June 05, 2015, 12:02:32 pm
jesus...christ.. that's the rating they got and each of them got game of the year, they are obviously great games. I didn't give them that score or them awards. So if you don't like them then go find other games to play, oh and leave this thread then. Saying Fallout 1 2 and 3 were failures on gameplay, you're clearly not interested in Fallout 4, so do us all a favor and fuck off? Think about it.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Casimir on June 05, 2015, 01:06:06 pm
well if he looks like a quare and sounds like a quare

If he sounds like a quare and looks like a quare he's probably a quare
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 05, 2015, 01:24:35 pm
Xant, yesterday you started posting on here at 12 o clock dinner time and finshed at 11 at night pal according to the time i'm seeing. You pretty much spent all day on here, AND the day before that is the exact same.

I have a full time job Personal training, it's not the best job in the world but atleast i have a job, unlike you that seems to spend 8+ hours a day on here, on June the 3rd you posted a near 8 hour streak, i can see by the show posts on your account page. You are probably the saddest reptile here my friend, saying i put "selfies" on Vanguard forum and you seem to know about this also indicates you spend your life on there too, even when it's been a ghost town for months now. What a sad man. your on here everyday for hours on end, think about your life. Your mum is probably worried sick.

And FYI 5+ posts per day isn't 5 actual posts a day, it's much much more than 5, to get 5 a day is fucking ridiculous, You actually have no-life atm.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Overdriven on June 05, 2015, 01:29:19 pm
Meh maybe he has a desk job. I drop in and out of here all day as well.

5 posts a day is nothing. Maybe it's something on this forum now but most used to be far more active!

Wait...

I'm defending Xant.

Sorry get back too it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 05, 2015, 01:34:23 pm
tfw my posting hours are my working hours (http://forum.melee.org/index.php?action=profile;area=statistics;u=3675)

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Radament on June 05, 2015, 01:44:41 pm
time to replay Fallout : New Vegas ultramodded.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 05, 2015, 01:54:27 pm
I have a full time job Personal training, it's not the best job in the world but atleast i have a job, unlike you

Well, if he can afford a good life without going to the job then it's something to be envy of, don't you think?

Btw, you really try to bash him cause of his nerdy amount of posts, while you have over 2 k posts on this forum and god only knows how many hours in game? lel
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 02:07:02 pm
Xant, yesterday you started posting on here at 12 o clock dinner time and finshed at 11 at night pal according to the time i'm seeing. You pretty much spent all day on here, AND the day before that is the exact same.

I have a full time job Personal training, it's not the best job in the world but atleast i have a job, unlike you that seems to spend 8+ hours a day on here, on June the 3rd you posted a near 8 hour streak, i can see by the show posts on your account page. You are probably the saddest reptile here my friend, saying i put "selfies" on Vanguard forum and you seem to know about this also indicates you spend your life on there too, even when it's been a ghost town for months now. What a sad man. your on here everyday for hours on end, think about your life. Your mum is probably worried sick.

And FYI 5+ posts per day isn't 5 actual posts a day, it's much much more than 5, to get 5 a day is fucking ridiculous, You actually have no-life atm.
"Spent all day on here" or maybe it's just that I F5 the forums sometime after waking up and F5 them sometime before going to sleep? I'm sorry, was this logic too hard to keep up with? It must be a lot of information to take in when you've only got 80 IQ to spare.

So wait, what you're saying is that you've got a shitty job and you're bragging about it? I mean, I'm not surprised, you're a native English speaker who writes it like a Russian and roleplays some kind of a Sylvester Stallone fantasy or who knows what the fuck on the forums and everywhere else. But yes, you're right, I'm not working right now -- fuck me, right? I wish that instead of doing whatever I want I'd be doing a shitty job just to have a job because that's somehow an intrinsic value -- sorry, that slipped in there. Google it. And again, it does not take me an hour per post, this one took about three minutes and it's way longer than I usually write. Not all of us are bound by your low intelligence, in fact 80+% of the population has a higher one.

Maybe you should post some more entirely serious duck-face selfies of yourself, the 20 you've posted so far aren't quite enough. I know everyone yearns to see more of your chav face.

5 posts per day isn't actually 5 posts per day? That's some very nice mathematics there, genius. Maybe you should have stayed in school until they taught you how averages work. But then you'd have run the risk of learning about debating and then we wouldn't have had this conversation in the first place because you wouldn't have tried a lame-duck personal attack when you ran out of actual arguments.

Also, the funny thing is that you play way more than me and are in fact still playing cRPG (of which you've played way, WAY more than me in total, probably thousand+ hours more) and yet are trying to "nerdshame" me for spending <5 minutes per day on posts on a video game forum (read: attempted nerdshaming on a video game forum by someone nerding out way harder).
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 05, 2015, 03:19:39 pm
Why are you obsessed over my face?  :lol:

Low Intelligence, 80 IQ  :lol:

Oh and here's my chav face everyone, enjoy.
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I'm done here, Xant you never fail to entertain me, a forum jester.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 03:26:01 pm
Why are you obsessed over my face?  :lol:

Low Intelligence, 80 IQ  :lol:

Oh and here's my chav face everyone, enjoy.
(click to show/hide)

I'm done here, Xant you never fail to entertain me, a forum jester.

A striking resemblance:

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I accept your surrender, although it doesn't come as a surprise: I knew you wouldn't be able to come up with a comeback to my last post. Let no one say I'm not magnanimous in victory; I thought about gloating over the fact that you were utterly incapable of responding to even a single thing I said, but then I decided against it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: W0LF on June 05, 2015, 03:34:13 pm
Back to FO4 Please  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 05, 2015, 03:44:40 pm
Xant knows all about surrendering and ragequitting a thread because he is incapable of responding. That's some great victory there Xant

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Or just not respond. All u guys fault for replying back. Like adding fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 03:49:57 pm
Or just not respond. All u guys fault for replying back. Like adding fuel to the fire.
Heskey's been super desperate for my attention for like a year now, it's kind of cute actually -- he's not fueling anything. And if you weren't still cross with me because of what I said to you in the GTA thread, you'd perhaps realize that it's not a case of anyone replying back to something I said, it's a case of Saxon realizing his on-topic argument had no wings so he tried an ad hominem and that backfired because he doesn't have the intelligence for it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: darmaster on June 05, 2015, 04:01:49 pm
Back to FO4 Please  :lol:

Why? This thread suddenly became interesting p:

Heskey's been super desperate for my attention for like a year now

That's a swede's spot as far as I know
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Overdriven on June 05, 2015, 04:04:35 pm
Pssht not really practically every thread has descended into this recently  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 05, 2015, 04:05:23 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Casimir on June 05, 2015, 04:05:47 pm
You guys are like a group of old women down the hairdressers.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2015, 04:06:53 pm
Pssht not really practically every thread has descended into this recently  :rolleyes:
Who's stopping anyone from discussing Fallout 4? There's not much to say about it until we get some gameplay or interviews or whatever. Right now all we have is bad graphics and recycled assets. But by all means, if you have something to say about the game, go on.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Overdriven on June 05, 2015, 04:07:35 pm
Game is ballz
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 05, 2015, 04:41:29 pm
'Fault' implies this outcome was not desired, I would disagree

Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 05, 2015, 06:01:19 pm
rip thred

called it
Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 05, 2015, 06:02:08 pm
Fallout 4 details that was released almost a year ago!
Looking at the trailer.....i think this all looks true!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new)


DOES NO ONE CARE THAT THE RUMORS MAYBE TRUE????
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 05, 2015, 06:40:41 pm
hm argue about a game we know nothing about yet, or watch two fight on the forum... i'll go with the latter
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 05, 2015, 08:32:41 pm
The thing is with Xant, He never stops talking about intelligence. But is it really intelligent to stay in your house every day for months? Clearly he doesn't have a job and he trolls people who he doesn't know all day. There is no point in having intelligence if you're just going to have no life, literally no life. 90% of people on this forum don't even like him, i doubt he has any real life friends and that's why he spends so much time talking to people anonymously. Every time he posts just makes me laugh because he never seems to learn.

I have a fucked up sense of humor.
I laugh every time Xant posts on here because to me that's entertainment, i get a kick out of his posts and i also get a kick out of him wasting his life and time shit talking me and others on here, i rarely even pay attention to what he says. The thing is if Xant stops then that's one of my many sources of entertainment gone. But what ever.

Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: 722_ on June 05, 2015, 11:02:46 pm

DOES NO ONE CARE THAT THE RUMORS MAYBE TRUE????

no idea, but if it is

"The map of Fallout 4 is about 3 times the size of Skyrim. The reason for this is to make a much more realistic and interactive world, that players can always find new things, even if they have played it for years after release."

have a feeling its not though, they got quite a few things wrong and apparently there where posts on kotaku confirming the game was in Boston before this was posted

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Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: Algarn on June 05, 2015, 11:16:26 pm

DOES NO ONE CARE THAT THE RUMORS MAYBE TRUE????

Read the rumors again, and it seems Fallout 4 will be released on 2015, and the dates given by the fired employee are credible, even very likely to happen. I guess everything that guy (?) said is true, but it's only a guess.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 06, 2015, 12:21:45 am
well it's gonna be out sooner than we think, you can already pre-order the game on various websites. And it's on steam.

June 14th is gonna be gameplay and estimated release date at e3, i'l bet on it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 06, 2015, 02:11:59 am
The thing is with Xant, He never stops talking about intelligence. But is it really intelligent to stay in your house every day for months? Clearly he doesn't have a job and he trolls people who he doesn't know all day. There is no point in having intelligence if you're just going to have no life, literally no life. 90% of people on this forum don't even like him, i doubt he has any real life friends and that's why he spends so much time talking to people anonymously. Every time he posts just makes me laugh because he never seems to learn.

I have a fucked up sense of humor.
I laugh every time Xant posts on here because to me that's entertainment, i get a kick out of his posts and i also get a kick out of him wasting his life and time shit talking me and others on here, i rarely even pay attention to what he says. The thing is if Xant stops then that's one of my many sources of entertainment gone. But what ever.
I'm concerned, Saxon, have you ever heard about this institution called school? Because all evidence is starting to point to the contrary.

It's really cute how you're now trying to pull the "hahah just trolling xP getting u to waste time xP" when it's literally no more time away from me than it is from you. But, yes, I know, advanced logic again, sorry. Nice attempt at a comeback though, and by nice I mean kind of sad and pathetic, mr. wasting his life in cRPG.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Casimir on June 06, 2015, 05:46:49 am
Well let us be sensible gents; we shall not preorder fallout 4 and we shall move beyond this bitching. You are becoming a joke.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 06, 2015, 11:02:07 am
OR, you preorder fallout 4 and use steam refund if you don't like it.
Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on June 06, 2015, 12:06:59 pm
Fallout 4 details that was released almost a year ago!
Looking at the trailer.....i think this all looks true!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new)

Read it and thought to myself: Why would anyone spend so much time writing a lengthy post, if it weren't true? Even a troll wouldn't do that.

Then I realized I was underestimating the vain stupidity of internet trolls and their fucked up sense of having fun way too much. So, no idea about the truthfulness of those rumors.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Leesin on June 06, 2015, 12:14:55 pm
OR, you preorder fallout 4 and use steam refund if you don't like it.

OR just don't pay a ridiculous £50 pre-order fee based on a trailer that looks like it was made with Fallout 3 and use thst £50 on something else, then maybe think about buying it when it's actually released or close to release when they will show a lot more footage of what the game really is like.
Title: Re: CONSPIRACY
Post by: Teeth on June 06, 2015, 01:04:44 pm
Fallout 4 details that was released almost a year ago!
Looking at the trailer.....i think this all looks true!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new (https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/?sort=new)
I am pretty convinced, he nailed a few things that are specific enough that it being a guess is unlikely. So hey, it might get released in four months.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 06, 2015, 01:11:23 pm
"This version runs on the Creation Engine, the same engine that powered Skyrim. This is being done so that PS3/360 users can play the game without problem. Everything will be the same in this version as the advanced version, except for the graphics, gameplay and some additional features."

Wow, everything will be exactly the same!

Except for the graphics, gameplay and additional features.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tor! on June 06, 2015, 01:19:13 pm
Source?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 06, 2015, 01:47:26 pm
That reddit thread.

It almost seems legit, but some of the stuff sounds retarded, like the quoted part, and the fact the person claims you can only play a man in the main quest but after it's done you can change your gender to female...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Laufknoten on June 06, 2015, 02:04:19 pm
Lol that reddit post is a load of bullshit... It's kind of sad that people take so much time and effort to basically write a troll post.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 06, 2015, 02:04:58 pm
I remember I read somewhere that it was proven to be bullshit. I'll have to look where it is later.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Casimir on June 06, 2015, 02:15:37 pm
OR, you preorder fallout 4 and use steam refund if you don't like it.

An open world RPG like fallout is going to need more than 2 hours game play to judge wether it's worth your money or not. First impressions are important but there's more to it than that, hence why we don't pre-order and we wait for a full review after release.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 06, 2015, 02:17:34 pm
You can try a long term demo too. :)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 06, 2015, 02:20:41 pm
If that Redditthing is true, the game already got kinda burned. I think Witcher 3 may just be responsible of a shitton of cancelations and delays of other RPG-s. :D

The world map being 3-4 times the size of Skyrim and using the same engine is already a massive red flag imo. Again, the fanboy now that I am, if W3 taught us anything now, its all about quality not qantity. The gameworld there was smaller than TES games sofar, but the bloody starting area there, White orchard, was more alive than 70% of the world in Skyrim. There is no way in hell anyone can handcraft and turn a world the size of Skyrims world x 3 immersive and alive without copy pasting everything or generating it. Which we will probably notice self-consciously and be less impressed about.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tor! on June 06, 2015, 03:21:33 pm
I think most RPG's already in production will have to realise how far behind they are CD projekt red in terms of game developing  :|
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: 722_ on June 06, 2015, 03:46:39 pm
"This version runs on the Creation Engine, the same engine that powered Skyrim. This is being done so that PS3/360 users can play the game without problem. Everything will be the same in this version as the advanced version, except for the graphics, gameplay and some additional features."

Wow, everything will be exactly the same!

Except for the graphics, gameplay and additional features.

https://twitter.com/fo4news/status/607006410380050432

ok pretty sure that post is BS now

Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Molly on June 06, 2015, 05:12:32 pm
Not initially maybe but if it turns out to be a success, I could see them leaving that window open anyway. Late port to 360 and ps3...

I think most RPG's already in production will have to realise how far behind they are CD projekt red in terms of game developing  :|
You would imagine that but considering how huge the gap between W3 and comparable RPGs is, I doubt we'll see anything like it for the next 2 years.
Especially if F4 is already in development for several years and is coming 2015. I would be very surprised if they have anything close to W3 atm, assuming a late 2015 release.

W3 came out, Bethesda played it, marketing calls developer "Did you play W3 yet? Holy shit..." "Yea, we did... *silence*" "How close are you guys to it? Late 2015 release still viable?" "Well... *static noise*" "Alright, listen, we haven't said anything official about release yet... Let's tell them late 2016 at E3 and say, it's the date which was supposed to be from the get go..." "*static noise*" "Hello?" "*silence* *tuut tuut tuut*" "Hello?!"

:lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2015, 05:51:46 pm
I think most RPG's already in production will have to realise how far behind they are CD projekt red in terms of game developing  :|

Rather go with Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age etc.. series than Witcher.

Only Cyberpunk from CD Projekt is looking interesting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 06, 2015, 05:55:29 pm
Rather go with Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age etc.. series than Witcher.

Only Cyberpunk from CD Projekt is looking interesting.
How is it relevant what you'd "rather go with"? Your subjective opinion has no bearing on game development.

TW3 is, objectively, a great game. Probably the best RPG ever made if you happen to like the kind of world it's set in and the characters.

I too prefer ME to the Witcher, but that's because of subjective crap and my current "mood" -- if it'd have come a couple of years ago, it might be different. But I realize it's subjective and I can recognize all the objective greatness in TW3 and how no other RPG has been able to achieve a similar level of detail, quality and quantity.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 06, 2015, 06:22:22 pm
Rather go with Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age etc.. series than Witcher.

Only Cyberpunk from CD Projekt is looking interesting.

What? No, just no. These games, maybe when they were released, but right now Witcher 3 sets the bar, and they set it pretty fucking high.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 06, 2015, 06:37:08 pm
It sets a pretty boring bar for me then. I've put 3-4 hours into it and done nothing that was even slightly interesting. Struggling to turn it on currently. I'll admit that it runs well even on my PS4 and has been fairly bugless only last time I played I had a bug that turned the water black. Was a weird one that. Unfortunately I have no desire to go and explore and I've found the combat boring too.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 06, 2015, 06:44:07 pm
^ that is what I think too, so - opinions.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 06, 2015, 06:54:19 pm
Indeed so.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 06, 2015, 07:11:41 pm
Opinions, opinions....

But the undeniable fact is that a shitton of W3-s side-missions, including the world, were basically handcrafted in high detail and all the characters, even for the most tiny side-quests were fleshed out perfectly. Including the perfect audio, the perfect facial expressions. The story itself branches so much and each branch feels unique. It didnt have any lameass fetch quests. Majority of the quests were pretty fresh and unique. That my friend is a veeeeery high bar. Considering that TES-s world for example was basically just copypasting and bunch of fetch quests.

Dont get me wrong, I can totally see how someone might find W3 boring, but you cant deny it its strenghts. After W3, im quite sure developing side-quests and characters properly is going to be a norm from now on in RPGs. Its inpact on the genre was definately heavy.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2015, 07:19:53 pm
Overrated cuz sex scenes.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 06, 2015, 07:28:56 pm
I never really got the hype about the sex scenes. I always just skipped those parts. Whats so great about them? Its just (very)softcore 3d porn in 15 second long scenes.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2015, 07:41:40 pm
I never really got the hype about the sex scenes. I always just skipped those parts. Whats so great about them? Its just (very)softcore 3d porn in 15 second long scenes.

On a sidenote i don't think there's any AAA game out there with hardcore porn scenes lol. Only some tits to please the 15 year olds.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 06, 2015, 07:58:55 pm
I guess i hit the nail on the head then, gg Xant.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Kafein on June 06, 2015, 08:49:20 pm
I think it has been long established that Bethesda has become incapable of releasing a really good RPG, yet even reach The Witcher 3. They make flexible open world engines and make dumbed down games with a lot of boilerplate content.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: 722_ on June 06, 2015, 10:45:20 pm
anyone interested in buying, its £37 on amazon for a boxed copy vs £50 on steam
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 03:28:13 am
I guess i hit the nail on the head then, gg Xant.
Tightly packed argumentation, my friend. And when I say tightly packed I mean dense. And by dense I mean stupid. And by stupid I mean you.

Those who suffer from potent autism should be mandatorily sterilised. I'm talking about you again.

I think it has been long established that Bethesda has become incapable of releasing a really good RPG, yet even reach The Witcher 3. They make flexible open world engines and make dumbed down games with a lot of boilerplate content.

It makes sense. The last great RPG (or at least world and story etc wise, gameplay sucks by today's standards of course) they made, IMO, was Morrowind. The world was unique and interesting.

Then they lost the developer responsible for all the philosophy and design stuff in Morrowind and their games become bland. Not a coincidence, I think...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2015, 09:13:33 am
Tightly packed argumentation, my friend. And when I say tightly packed I mean dense. And by dense I mean stupid. And by stupid I mean you.

Those who suffer from potent autism should be mandatorily sterilised. I'm talking about you again.

Whats with you and the constant use of the words "intelligence" and "autism"? You have been an internetwarrior for how many years now? You are better than that man.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 10:47:35 am
Whats with you and the constant use of the words "intelligence" and "autism"? You have been an internetwarrior for how many years now? You are better than that man.
Are you triggered?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2015, 10:52:23 am
Whats with you and the constant use of the words "intelligence" and "autism"? You have been an internetwarrior for how many years now? You are better than that man.

If you guys stop replying there won't be more pointless ceearrpeegee forum debaytsss. Same with Tovi
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2015, 11:07:29 am
Are you triggered?

Yes, because I dont know what I am talking about. Thereby I clearly have a braindisfunction and autism.

If you guys stop replying there won't be more pointless ceearrpeegee forum debaytsss. Same with Tovi

But what are we gonna do than? Do you not realise, that these days atleast half of this forums population only comes here for the drama.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 11:24:42 am
Yes, because I dont know what I am talking about. Thereby I clearly have a braindisfunction and autism.
Well, you answered yourself.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 07, 2015, 11:39:47 am
But this time Xant is right, isn't he? When in the middle of more or less reasonable discussion someone out of nowhere comes with "hurr dur, 5 posts per day you nerd, unlike you I have a job" bullshit, he clearly has to be stupid.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2015, 11:52:21 am
Yes, because I dont know what I am talking about. Thereby I clearly have a braindisfunction and autism.

But what are we gonna do than? Do you not realise, that these days atleast half of this forums population only comes here for the drama.

U can play a game better than Witcher games a.ka Dragon Age Origins

U can go join ISIS

U can join Ukraine and fight Soviet Union 2.0

U can watch Lexi Belle, April O Neil, Janice Griffith etc...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2015, 12:11:01 pm
But this time Xant is right, isn't he? When in the middle of more or less reasonable discussion someone out of nowhere comes with "hurr dur, 5 posts per day you nerd, unlike you I have a job" bullshit, he clearly has to be stupid.

I....think he's right? I dont know. I can't even tell anymore.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 12:14:12 pm
I....think he's right? I dont know. I can't even tell anymore.
Then what are you even on about? You say I mention intelligence and autism too much, but it's hardly my fault that the leading causes for stupid posts is lack of the former and an overabundance of the latter.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Tibe on June 07, 2015, 12:31:44 pm
Because I still fail to see how autism is related to shitty posting. It's overusing that word that makes me believe you dont really know what autism is. Its almost like saying "your opinion doesnt matter because you have herpes". Really unrelated man.

And I dont think im on about anything here. Im just really bored and trying to turn this thread into Meanwhile in Ukraine vol. 2. :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 12:37:09 pm
Because I still fail to see how autism is related to shitty posting. It's overusing that word that makes me believe you dont really know what autism is. Its almost like saying "your opinion doesnt matter because you have herpes". Really unrelated man.

And I dont think im on about anything here. Im just really bored and trying to turn this thread into Meanwhile in Ukraine vol. 2. :D
Crash course to the Internet: in the webs of the world wide, "autism" does not mean the medical condition, just like "bundle of sticks" and "gay" don't mean "homosexuality" (except in the case of Siiem). It has different connotations on the webs of the inter than it does when said by a psychologist to their patient. Complaining about me talking too much about intelligence and autism when someone makes retarded posts is like complaining that the arson investigator says "fire" too much.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 07, 2015, 12:56:35 pm
But this time Xant is right, isn't he? When in the middle of more or less reasonable discussion someone out of nowhere comes with "hurr dur, 5 posts per day you nerd, unlike you I have a job" bullshit, he clearly has to be stupid.

This is like the basics of internet. When someone starts throwing "arguments" like that, instead of real counters, you know they lost. Usually followed by "lole i was just tryolling akll the time Xd"
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on June 07, 2015, 02:56:21 pm
Whats with you and the constant use of the words "intelligence" and "autism"? You have been an internetwarrior for how many years now? You are better than that man.

Are you really sure about that part though?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 07, 2015, 03:06:51 pm
Please, you're hurting my feelings.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Jarlek on June 07, 2015, 03:39:55 pm
You're Finnish. The only feeling you have is rage.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 07, 2015, 03:56:49 pm
You're Finnish. The only feeling you have is rage.

And dont forget depression.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Jarlek on June 07, 2015, 04:28:22 pm
And dont forget depression.
That's just what we think they feel when they are temporarily suppressing the rage.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 07, 2015, 07:28:40 pm
Wait we missed an important post.

Loathe to admit it but you're not wrong, for once someone else started throwing the macho 'internet-badass' card around before Xant

Heskey defending xant? I now know these forums are messed up.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 07, 2015, 09:11:24 pm
Wait we missed an important post.

Heskey defending xant? I now know these forums are messed up.

Looks like it's the end of the world as we know it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 07, 2015, 09:15:34 pm
true fallout in the melee forum
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: gallonigher on June 07, 2015, 09:53:16 pm

The last great RPG (or at least world and story etc wise, gameplay sucks by today's standards of course) they made, IMO, was Morrowind. The world was unique and interesting.

Then they lost the developer responsible for all the philosophy and design stuff in Morrowind and their games become bland. Not a coincidence, I think...

As widely praised as Bethesda games usually are, I think their games are becoming more and more dumbed-down with each new release.  We need more innovators and risk-takers in this industry but the usual AAA developer is always trying to milk the consumer cater to the casual gamer by releasing a watered-down experience every few years...  and they probably call it progress but it's not.  "Playing it safe" isn't going to carry this industry forward.  We need more complex games.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 07, 2015, 10:09:58 pm
true fallout in the melee forum

Get out
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 07, 2015, 10:18:37 pm
Wait we missed an important post.

Heskey defending xant? I now know these forums are messed up.

Now he will feel accomplished, and it will last his ego the entire year out. S'good tho, the drama would halve if he was to leave. And dont we all enjoy his presence in a masochistic way, he's THAT guy, sometimes he does actually have good points, but the way he pushes them makes nearly everyone hate him, and thats a good thing on the internet. I bet every forum has a Xant, most would probably ban though, and thats the beauty of this one... Allthought unfortunate bans/mutes have happened recently, saddens me, really. I miss leshma, and nightmare.. And wayyyne, why is wayne gone? I had some nice chats with him on eu1 the other day :C
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Vibe on June 07, 2015, 10:27:37 pm
And wayyyne, why is wayne gone? I had some nice chats with him on eu1 the other day :C

got permad for some nahzee shit or something lol
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 07, 2015, 11:17:00 pm
Get out

my thread nerd gtfo
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 08, 2015, 10:18:17 pm
I bet every forum has a Xant, most would probably ban though, and thats the beauty of this one...

So true. Just found out I got a one month ban on official witcher's forum for calling moderators stupid. Here I could call cmp fucking retard and noone would give a damn... Hopefully  :shock:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 08, 2015, 10:52:52 pm
So true. Just found out I got a one month ban on official witcher's forum for calling moderators stupid. Here I could call cmp fucking retard and noone would give a damn... Hopefully  :shock:

RIP in italian pasta leftovers
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 11:08:39 pm
Super Mario is running wild
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Algarn on June 09, 2015, 01:26:47 am
So true. Just found out I got a one month ban on official witcher's forum for calling moderators stupid. Here I could call cmp fucking retard and noone would give a damn... Hopefully  :shock:

RIP Cirilla.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2015, 10:23:31 pm
They need to include the Enclave faction and Deathclaws
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Siiem on June 10, 2015, 02:01:57 pm
They need to include the Enclave faction and Deathclaws

Why would it NOT have deathclaws... that would be like a WWII shooter without chocolate chip cookies.

edit.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 10, 2015, 02:48:05 pm
They need to include the Enclave faction

Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 15, 2015, 05:44:38 am
After watching the whole e3 show of 4allout, i can safely say, i have no clean pants left.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Albus on June 15, 2015, 07:13:44 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzV1GlDDlv8&feature=iv&src_vid=bWuwLSFmATI&annotation_id=annotation_997342293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuwLSFmATI
Can't wait to not be able to play it because I have a potato of a computer
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 08:11:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzV1GlDDlv8&feature=iv&src_vid=bWuwLSFmATI&annotation_id=annotation_997342293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuwLSFmATI
Can't wait to not be able to play it because I have a potato of a computer

This is fake because almighty DerpXant said it had last decade graphics
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Artyem on June 15, 2015, 08:13:18 am

embedded for your convenience
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Angantyr on June 15, 2015, 10:05:40 am
More videos:
(click to show/hide)

Why do idiots in the audience have to clap and cheer every time something minor (usually something stupid or mildly amusing) happens in the presentations. I see the same phenomenon when I watch lectures from US universities. It's not a pop concert or a fucking reality show.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Thovex on June 15, 2015, 11:23:41 am
added em videos to OP
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 12:11:49 pm
Why do idiots in the audience have to clap and cheer every time something minor (usually something stupid or mildly amusing) happens in the presentations. I see the same phenomenon when I watch lectures from US universities. It's not a pop concert or a fucking reality show.
It's like the US audiences have been brainwashed into it with the comedy shows where there's painted-on laughter when something "funny" happens. Really fucking annoying, it wasn't even bad in the Fallout videos compared to some other crap I've watched.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 15, 2015, 01:26:45 pm
Gotta say, if this stuff works it's pretty damn impressive.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: darmaster on June 15, 2015, 03:33:29 pm
yes the ambientation is really nice, but characters are still somehow meh
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Polobow on June 15, 2015, 04:26:06 pm
Looks cool, but I wonder how it will play without skills, if this is true.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Teeth on June 15, 2015, 04:40:09 pm
The game looks really crap graphically, especially the character models. I hope it is because they put so much resources into story and quest design. All the gimmicky customization stuff shown is mostly useless fluff to me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Golem on June 15, 2015, 04:43:47 pm
Yo! That E3 was sick. Especially the cocaine guy. I was playing a drinking game the whole time so I had a blast. By the way, do you think the DOOM gameplay was prerendered or just a guy who had done that level 300x times before and has a really steady hand?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 06:28:38 pm
Looks like combat won't be improved, guns still look like they feel completely ball-less, like you're shooting a nerf gun or something. But combat has always been the worst part about the engine in every game made on it...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 06:32:18 pm
But i guarantee it won't look bad when the game releases.

Oh wow, well. That puts me at ease.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: //saxon on June 15, 2015, 08:31:59 pm
Oh wow, well. That puts me at ease.
Well looking at the 30min demo i defiantly wouldn't say it looks bad.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Mala on June 15, 2015, 08:42:29 pm
...
...

so you have to pay the game and must build your own levels?

ok, i have forgotten the "it´s optional" part. that means translated "the story will suck again".
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 09:10:30 pm
A useless cute dog and homebuilding. Such Falloutness. Reminds me of another series that started with F and was great until the third installment...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 15, 2015, 09:11:45 pm
so you have to pay the game and must build your own levels?

ok, i have forgotten the "it´s optional" part. that means translated "the story will suck again".

People saying that it will shit on witcher 3. Kind of sad, but the survival game hype is still there, and adding this shit is enough for people to go crazy.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tor! on June 15, 2015, 09:15:16 pm
It's looking alright. Better than I expected honestly.. Witcher has spoiled me  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 15, 2015, 09:26:20 pm
Why are people comparing it to any game anyway? That's the game we are getting, either love it or hate it. It looks fucking sick. So much content to start with, honestly can't imagine what mods will add also, the game will simply be too big.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 15, 2015, 09:42:01 pm
They make the building stuff look great.

But in reality all I will have is a simple shack with a bed in it. Simple minds, simple pleasures
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: 722_ on June 15, 2015, 09:48:38 pm
Wow, so fallout 4 on Xbox one is going to be able to use pc mods. announced by Todd Howard during the xbox E3 conference. I wonder how that's going to work.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 10:49:27 pm
Wow, so fallout 4 on Xbox one is going to be able to use pc mods. announced by Todd Howard during the xbox E3 conference. I wonder how that's going to work.

Connected to Nexus? Or probably Steam Workshop since Nexus is pretty derpy and isn't always that easy to install and sometimes would include one to have to edit lots of txt files and lots of possibilities of errors.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 10:50:29 pm
A useless cute dog and homebuilding. Such Falloutness. Reminds me of another series that started with F and was great until the third installment...

(F)Witcher. Hurr hurr
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 10:55:19 pm
(F)Witcher. Hurr hurr

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2015, 11:01:53 pm
Why are people comparing it to any game anyway?

What kind of question is this? :?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: F i n on June 15, 2015, 11:04:29 pm
New stuff looks promising.... might end up buying it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kafein on June 15, 2015, 11:21:11 pm
After watching the E3 videos, TW3 confirmed GOTY 2015 by a landslide.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 11:28:24 pm
(F)Witcher. Hurr hurr
I wasn't aware Witcher had a dog and homebuilding.

What kind of question is this? :?
It's a Saxon kind of question.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: darmaster on June 15, 2015, 11:36:52 pm
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 11:39:30 pm
Shoulda had the cute doggy and the kawaii homebuilding.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Laufknoten on June 15, 2015, 11:42:58 pm
After watching the E3 videos, TW3 confirmed GOTY 2015 by a landslide.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 15, 2015, 11:52:25 pm
Kinda happy that i'm not Xant. Keep wasting your life pal, you're a person only a mother would kiss.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 11:53:54 pm
Kinda happy that i'm not Xant. Keep wasting your life pal, a person only your mother would kiss.
Hahaha, Saxon seriously never makes any sense. Context, his worst enemy.

PS how many hours have you wasted in cRPG Saxon?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 12:00:07 am




After watching the E3 videos, TW3 confirmed GOTY 2015 by a landslide.

Aint nobody got time fo dat shit

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Falka on June 16, 2015, 12:03:59 am
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 16, 2015, 01:36:28 am
how many hours have you wasted in cRPG Saxon?
Too many my friend, now that we won the 5v5 and i'm a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it, i have nothing else to do on this mod anymore. I have officially completed cRPG without no-lifing it. Just like you might of played a game for a long period of time, there has to be a finish point somewhere. But unlike you i actually took breaks, i played a few hours a week. Judging from the times and dates of each of your posts this month, one after the other you seem to have been on this forum and the internet in general like 97% of the time (that's this month only). Unhealthy. Go outside once in a while, you need some vitamin D pal (sunlight), Jesus your house must stink of sweat and piss, no wonder you seem lonely as fuck.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 16, 2015, 05:21:51 am
downloading fallout shelter right now


god, cant wait for 4, maybe might just buy the collectors edition.

fuck...PLUS dishonored 2....goddamn im so fucking amped
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Casimir on June 16, 2015, 06:06:26 am
Okay the e3 videos have me more convinced than ever that there will be a dece story to fo4 and that it will be worth a purchase down the line. The graphics look reasonable and personally my laptop couldn't handle much higher.The customisation, character creation, and environmental interactivity look promising so far and as much as dogmeats a gimmick it will be a fun feature. The gun play looks very similar to FO3 and NV but i can deal with that because i personally enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 11:20:07 am
Too many my friend, now that we won the 5v5 and i'm a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it, i have nothing else to do on this mod anymore. I have officially completed cRPG without no-lifing it. Just like you might of played a game for a long period of time, there has to be a finish point somewhere. But unlike you i actually took breaks, i played a few hours a week. Judging from the times and dates of each of your posts this month, one after the other you seem to have been on this forum and the internet in general like 97% of the time (that's this month only). Unhealthy. Go outside once in a while, you need some vitamin D pal (sunlight), Jesus your house must stink of sweat and piss, no wonder you seem lonely as fuck.
A "champion and legend" of cRPG. Congratulations, you are the biggest nerd of cRPG. How does it feel to not only be the stereotypical dumb chav with the self-awareness of a fish but also a nerd to boot?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vovka on June 16, 2015, 11:34:23 am
Fuck IOS!11!! gimme droid11!!1!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: DaveUKR on June 16, 2015, 11:34:49 am
Too many my friend, now that we won the 5v5 and i'm a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it, i have nothing else to do on this mod anymore.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Thovex on June 16, 2015, 12:47:45 pm
Fuck IOS!11!! gimme droid11!!1!

First thing I thought watching e3.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Falka on June 16, 2015, 02:26:35 pm
I'm impressed, I wish I could play a game every day for several years straight without no-lifing it.

Instead I played casually on fun servers like a fucking nerd.

At this point I think we can all agree that he's hands Down the most retarded admin crpg ever had.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 16, 2015, 03:06:23 pm
Yes i'm an unintelligent retarded "chav" AND a nerd yet i still have more of a life than you. Sad isn't it.

Jesus Christ.  :lol: , il let you all sit on here for 10 hours straight, you have probably got rickets by now anyway so what does it matter.

Vitamin D is good for you lads. It really is.

Saxon waited until becoming admin

I never asked to become admin i didn't even want it, just happened spontaneously.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 03:17:19 pm
Yes i'm an unintelligent retarded "chav" AND a nerd yet i still have more of a life than you. Sad isn't it.

Jesus Christ.  :lol: , il let you all sit on here for 10 hours straight, you have probably got rickets by now anyway so what does it matter.

Vitamin D is good for you lads. It really is.

I never asked to become admin i didn't even want it, just happened spontaneously.
Again, while it might be really hard for a 65 IQ (I've had to adjust my estimate downward) person to understand, browsing forums is very low-intensity. It doesn't take ten hours of focus like it does for you.

While you're at it, why don't you define "life" and then describe to us how you have more of it, mr. "Champion and Legend"  :lol: The very fact that you care about cRPG titles betrays your no-lifeness, alas.

But don't worry about it Saxon, the fact that literally everyone calls you a retard must just be a coincidence!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 16, 2015, 03:25:47 pm
I'm also interested in how you measure life
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vovka on June 16, 2015, 03:32:38 pm
I'm also interested in how you measure life
He went offline, pretending that he has a real life  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 03:37:44 pm
I'm also interested in how you measure life
It's just something he's picked up from other chavs. I think the last time I heard anyone throw around the "omg i haff more life than you" was 15 years ago when playing video games was for total nerds only. Ironic that Saxon plays the most and takes them the most seriously yet talks about it. Nowadays the younger generations (<27ish) tend to realize that the ideal life is doing what you like doing, not following a 1930-formula of work-family-retirement-death. So only a retard would claim to have "more of life" when it's such a subjective thing, if someone likes doing nothing more than playing Mario Kart their every waking moment then more power to them. Of course I'm sure you know this, just pre-empting Saxon's chav-logic.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 16, 2015, 04:12:49 pm
Saxon youre digging a deep grave  :oops: Critique is much better than asslicking before releases anyways, otherwise they will have no reason to make any improvements. They game could still be good, but if they dont fix any of their problems with all teh monies they have then i'll just ignore the game. Rich devs are lazy while kickstarters seem to be producing way more quality games for way less money.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2015, 04:53:49 pm
I never said you asked, only that you're only posting this shit since you did become an admin. And posted much more in general (careful, we might think you're a nolife like us).

Nope, he's posting this shit after he completed cRPG without being no-lifer, having won 5vs5 tournament, becoming a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it.

Get your facts straight, HESKEYTIME.

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Saxon youre digging a deep grave

Who cares? I've done it at least dozen times so far and I'm still same retard I've been at the beginning at this journey. Better expose your inner retard if you have one, than hiding it for years. It's kinda like being gay and not willing to admit it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 05:07:02 pm
I never asked to become admin i didn't even want it, just happened spontaneously.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 05:17:05 pm
I hate people writing/saying asslicking instead of asskissing. Sounds more like a fetish to me than being a complete slave to someone/something.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 Trailer Release
Post by: Falka on June 16, 2015, 05:35:20 pm
having won 5vs5 tournament, becoming a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it.

And all that while being a casual gamer, can you imagine it? Such a man he is..

I'm no way near a hardcore gamer what so ever, i'm as close to a casual as you will ever get


Who cares? I've done it at least dozen times so far and I'm still same retard I've been at the beginning at this journey.

That's the benefit of the internet, you can go full retard, come back and act like nothing happened.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 06:31:41 pm
having won 5vs5 tournament, becoming a champion now with soon to be a legendary forum and in-game title to prove it.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leesin on June 16, 2015, 06:34:58 pm
Saxon rekt lol
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 06:39:17 pm
Feminist Frequency ‏@femfreq  15. June
The #Fallout4 crafting system is cool. Imagine how much cooler it could be if it wasn’t SO focused on building stuff to kill other stuff.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 16, 2015, 10:21:16 pm
Saxon youre digging a deep grave
How am i digging a grave, i am talking truth. I played 1 or 2 hours every couple of days because i was in a tournament that went on for a month, we won. Now i've quit because there is nothing interesting on cRPG for me anymore.

"everyone calls you a retard" - Xant, What? you and 2 other people. The 3 people that come on here every 5 mins of the day and probably stink of cat piss from sitting in the same spot indefinitely.

Yes do what makes you happy, by all means. But when you're assuming i play cRPG all day everyday, nah. You keep saying i have low IQ but how much IQ have you got Xant? You must have shit loads if you're talking about intelligence constantly :lol: people that have me on Facebook will know that I have a Degree, i went to uni. I booked a 3 week holiday today for next year, with a girl im fucking every week. What have you done? Sat in your own piss for 12 hours straight. Congrats, hey if it makes you happy then i give you my full support just try and have a shower every day ye? Reptiles.

Keep the shit posts coming. Just make a new thread though, Because this is Fallout 4 discussion and i'm no longer gonna talk about how much you and your house must stink of piss and shit.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 16, 2015, 10:33:57 pm
How am i digging a grave, i am talking truth. I played 1 or 2 hours every couple of days because i was in a tournament that went on for a month, we won. Now i've quit because there is nothing interesting on cRPG for me anymore.

"everyone calls you a retard" - Xant, What? you and 2 other people. The 3 people that come on here every 5 mins of the day and probably stink of cat piss from sitting in the same spot indefinitely.

Yes do what makes you happy, by all means. But when you're assuming i play cRPG all day everyday, nah. You keep saying i have low IQ but how much IQ have you got Xant? You must have shit loads if you're talking about intelligence constantly :lol: people that have me on Facebook will know that I have a Degree, i went to uni. I booked a 3 week holiday today for next year, with a girl im fucking every week. What have you done? Sat in your own piss for 12 hours straight. Congrats, hey if it makes you happy then i give you my full support just try and have a shower every day ye? Reptiles.

Keep the shit posts coming. Just make a new thread though, Because this is Fallout 4 discussion and i'm no longer gonna talk about how much you and your house must stink of piss and shit.
I can see you went to a university with your immense math and grammar skills.

Vibe, Falka, DaveUKR, Heskey, Leshma, Vovka, Leesin and Gravoth are "2 other people"? You might want to consider some further education, it might come in handy some day to be able to count past two, you never know what the future has in store.

But hey, congratulations on your tournament victory in a mod that nobody's cared about for years except for you in your no-life casualness. Truly, you are a legend and a champion! Refer to

http://forum.melee.org/and-all-the-other-things-floating-around-out-there/new-fallout/msg1146124/#msg1146124

For my reaction when I imagine you typing that out as if it's an achievement that anyone cares about. BTW, I'm not referring to Peter Parker.

Talking about intelligence constantly neither lowers nor increases your intelligence, I'm afraid to say. Just like talking about potatoes doesn't give you any more potatoes (sorry Latvian - the good news is that the potatoes don't go away either). That's just not how the world works, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

As for your degree, anyone can see how much that's worth by looking at your posts. And the best part is that you're supposed to be a native English speaker. A degree in this day and age means nothing, most people on this forum probably have one or two.

Wow, you booked a three week holiday! So what, are you saying that you won't be working? LOL! No-lifer Saxon. How can you no life like that, Saxon? How come are you not working? Talked yourself into a corner here, buddy. If you have vacations you're a no-lifer. As for what I've done, I've just had a four week vacation and I've been fucking TWO girls! BAM -- I'm the more bad ass casual of the two of us. Get wrecked, son. Wait, I forgot I was supposed to talk about what you've done here despite having no idea... hold on... you've sat in... DOG piss for TWENTY FOUR hours straight! That's twice more than I spent in cat piss! Are you fucking owned or what? LOL! Hahahah! Hilarious.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 10:37:20 pm
a girl im fucking every week

Let's hope she's sterile.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2015, 10:54:02 pm
I booked a 3 week holiday today for next year, with a girl im fucking every week.

Why not every night, or at least every second night. You're still young and libido is still strong. Fuck that every week, middle age sex bullshit.

Thanks for reminding me I need a shower. See ya in 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: [ptx] on June 16, 2015, 11:15:37 pm
I dunno man, I'm convinced.

It's like, he goes to a gym, takes vacations and has a girl. Also, won a tournament on cRPG in summer 2015. That's super rad. Living the life. Coolest guy. Obviously anyone who's got a problem with that is a NERD.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 11:17:50 pm
Obviously anyone who's got a problem with that is a NERD.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 16, 2015, 11:20:37 pm
How am i digging a grave, i am talking truth. I played 1 or 2 hours every couple of days because i was in a tournament that went on for a month, we won. Now i've quit because there is nothing interesting on cRPG for me anymore.

"everyone calls you a retard" - Xant, What? you and 2 other people. The 3 people that come on here every 5 mins of the day and probably stink of cat piss from sitting in the same spot indefinitely.

Yes do what makes you happy, by all means. But when you're assuming i play cRPG all day everyday, nah. You keep saying i have low IQ but how much IQ have you got Xant? You must have shit loads if you're talking about intelligence constantly :lol: people that have me on Facebook will know that I have a Degree, i went to uni. I booked a 3 week holiday today for next year, with a girl im fucking every week. What have you done? Sat in your own piss for 12 hours straight. Congrats, hey if it makes you happy then i give you my full support just try and have a shower every day ye? Reptiles.

Keep the shit posts coming. Just make a new thread though, Because this is Fallout 4 discussion and i'm no longer gonna talk about how much you and your house must stink of piss and shit.

Lmfao, this is hilarious. This post was like a very horrible version of this:

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Shemaforash on June 16, 2015, 11:24:09 pm
How am i digging a grave, i am talking truth. I played 1 or 2 hours every couple of days because i was in a tournament that went on for a month, we won. Now i've quit because there is nothing interesting on cRPG for me anymore.

"everyone calls you a retard" - Xant, What? you and 2 other people. The 3 people that come on here every 5 mins of the day and probably stink of cat piss from sitting in the same spot indefinitely.

Yes do what makes you happy, by all means. But when you're assuming i play cRPG all day everyday, nah. You keep saying i have low IQ but how much IQ have you got Xant? You must have shit loads if you're talking about intelligence constantly :lol: people that have me on Facebook will know that I have a Degree, i went to uni. I booked a 3 week holiday today for next year, with a girl im fucking every week. What have you done? Sat in your own piss for 12 hours straight. Congrats, hey if it makes you happy then i give you my full support just try and have a shower every day ye? Reptiles.

Keep the shit posts coming. Just make a new thread though, Because this is Fallout 4 discussion and i'm no longer gonna talk about how much you and your house must stink of piss and shit.

you fucking nerd
u will never make sex in ur life
while in brazil i have sex 30 times each day at carnaval
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 16, 2015, 11:39:56 pm
The grave has been dug and you've managed to bury yourself too.

Just get back to Fallout 3 because frankly you're both acting like children. Saxon, your personal life doesn't affect how much of an ass you're being, noone cares if you have a girlfriend, you go to the gym or you have a job. Welcome to adult life.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on June 16, 2015, 11:43:48 pm
Will they have showers in Fallout 4? Because I want to replicate this awesome feeling, being cat piss free is fucking fantastic. Thanks Saxon for opening my eyes. Think I now smell better than your girlfriend's vagina.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 16, 2015, 11:57:53 pm
Feminist Frequency ‏@femfreq  15. June
The #Fallout4 crafting system is cool. Imagine how much cooler it could be if it wasn’t SO focused on building stuff to kill other stuff.

Lolololololol

Sandwich makers
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leesin on June 17, 2015, 12:02:15 am
The grave has been dug and you've managed to bury yourself too.

Just get back to Fallout 3 because frankly you're both acting like children. Saxon, your personal life doesn't affect how much of an ass you're being, noone cares if you have a girlfriend, you go to the gym or you have a job. Welcome to adult life.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: rekt

Guess what guys, I have sex with women, I think my name should be Leesin#1Player
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Shemaforash on June 17, 2015, 12:13:57 am
i fuck kids once a week
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2015, 12:17:59 am
i fuck kids once a week

Reported
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: [ptx] on June 17, 2015, 12:20:22 am
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2015, 12:30:02 am
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Krillin, not one to be so easily defeated, then went on to win a 5v5 cRPG tournament and achieved the status of a champion and soon to be legendary forum and in-game titles to prove it, and finally became cool. (he didn't no-life it, of course)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kafein on June 17, 2015, 01:13:11 am
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Not so fast, Roach

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Lt_Anders on June 17, 2015, 01:34:56 am
SO Fallout 4...?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 17, 2015, 02:45:55 am
So you've never played this mod before this month?

You spend waaaaaaaaay longer in this game than any of us
I simply played a game over a period of years, not all day everyday. Just like anyone else that has played a game they enjoyed maybe an hour in a day, 10 hours on the game over 7 days, in my spare time.

I'm certainly not on a computer for 12 hours straight like fucking Xant, there is clear evidence of this when you check his dates and times between each forum post he makes and that's talking about this forum only, fuck knows how many others he is on. Suddenly i'm a no-life for playing 2 maps on cRPG in my spare time.

How am i being an ass? I don't start cussing people out spontaneously and assuming they're dumb and have 60 IQ like Xant just because they posted something related to the thread Topic, exactly what happened here. I'm simply stated facts that Xant thinks he is the pinnacle of Intelligence but all he does all year is sit on a chair in his room Probably with the curtains closed and types bollocks on forums all day.
 
A fucking recluse sees more sunlight than Xant ffs and there is evidence of it. Even going back to when Nordmen.com (now Vanguard.com) it was literally dead, a ghost town. If anyone posted anything it's like Xant got a steam message saying that someone has posted on there, then he instantly replied, with shit posting of course. Whatever man.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2015, 03:41:37 am
I simply played a game over a period of years, not all day everyday. Just like anyone else that has played a game they enjoyed maybe an hour in a day, 10 hours on the game over 7 days, in my spare time.

I'm certainly not on a computer for 12 hours straight like fucking Xant, there is clear evidence of this when you check his dates and times between each forum post he makes and that's talking about this forum only, fuck knows how many others he is on. Suddenly i'm a no-life for playing 2 maps on cRPG in my spare time.

How am i being an ass? I don't start cussing people out spontaneously and assuming they're dumb and have 60 IQ like Xant just because they posted something related to the thread Topic, exactly what happened here. I'm simply stated facts that Xant thinks he is the pinnacle of Intelligence but all he does all year is sit on a chair in his room Probably with the curtains closed and types bollocks on forums all day.
 
A fucking recluse sees more sunlight than Xant ffs and there is evidence of it. Even going back to when Nordmen.com (now Vanguard.com) it was literally dead, a ghost town. If anyone posted anything it's like Xant got a steam message saying that someone has posted on there, then he instantly replied, with shit posting of course. Whatever man.
Now, now, Saxon, no need to get all defensive because your nerdiness has been called out. You'd played more cRPG than me even before I quit actively playing a few years ago. You've probably got more cRPG hours than the rest of the people in this thread. But wait, you play in your spare time. That's ok then, nevermind.

Do you like, spin a random big wheel when deciding time frames? Let me try!
Ticktickticktick... tick.. tick....... tick. You spend FOURTEEN hours straight on the computer every MIDNIGHT, there is clear evidence of this when you check the dates and times between each forum post you make.

And no, you being a no-lifer isn't sudden, Saxon, you've been one for years, you've just been living in denial. Nobody that isn't retarded would call anyone else on a video game mod forum a no-lifer though, you're only being called one because you're the blackest kettle in the kitchen calling the dark-greyish pots black.

And why do you think ten people now have laughed at you Saxon? Maybe because you're being a moron? You have now twice taken the thread off-topic with your childish insults because you couldn't come up with any arguments.

Your talk of IQ and intelligence would be slightly more convincing if your post wasn't full of typos and random capitalization, and again, you're a native speaker. A native speaker that can't even write in his mother tongue, despite allegedly having a degree. Such is the potency of your intelligence.

You should go out some time Saxon, all you do is sit on your chair and play cRPG. Seriously, a (tickticktick...tick..) BANK INVESTOR sees more sunlight than you. And your curtains are closed too. And behind the curtains, you've got drapes pulled over the windows. Twice worse again! And when you're not playing cRPG, you go on REDDIT and spend all your time there. There's evidence of it!

Now to wait and see if you can talk about chairs, windows, sunlight and your fantasies as to how their existence juxtaposes with mine for the sixth post in a row with the exact same words. Your creative genius knows no bounds. Nerd.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Falka on June 17, 2015, 07:45:02 am
Quite amusing how blind one can be. Didn't say the Lord: why do you take note of the grain of dust in your brother's eye, but take no note of the bit of wood which is in your eye? Or how will you say to your brother, Let me take out the grain of dust from your eye, when you yourself have a bit of wood in your eye? In other words, when you yourself have 2000 posts and a few thousands hours in game, you don't call other people nerds  :wink:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2015, 09:27:34 am
Someone needs to remove this autistic convo between them from this thread
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 17, 2015, 09:55:51 am
Someone needs to remove this autistic convo between them from this thread

YOU FUCKING NERD ..: U WILL NEVER MAKE SEX IN UR LIFE ..: WHILE IN BRAZIL I HAVE SEX 30 TIMES EACH DAY AT CARNAVAL


PEOPLE  THAT  HAVE  ME  ON  FACEBOOK  WILL  KNOW  THAT  I  HAVE  A  DEGREE,  I  WENT  TO  UNI.  I  BOOKED  A  3  WEEK  HOLIDAY  TODAY  FOR  NEXT  YEAR,  WITH  A  GIRL  IM  FUCKING  EVERY  WEEK.  WHAT  HAVE  YOU  DONE?  SAT  IN  YOUR  OWN  PISS  FOR  12  HOURS  STRAIGHT.  CONGRATS,  HEY  IF  IT  MAKES  YOU  HAPPY  THEN  I  GIVE  YOU  MY  FULL  SUPPORT  JUST  TRY  AND  HAVE  A  SHOWER  EVERY  DAY  YE?  REPTILES.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Molly on June 17, 2015, 09:59:28 am
Fuck Fallout 4 - this is entertaining.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2015, 10:10:37 am
YOU FUCKING NERD ..: U WILL NEVER MAKE SEX IN UR LIFE ..: WHILE IN BRAZIL I HAVE SEX 30 TIMES EACH DAY AT CARNAVAL


PEOPLE  THAT  HAVE  ME  ON  FACEBOOK  WILL  KNOW  THAT  I  HAVE  A  DEGREE,  I  WENT  TO  UNI.  I  BOOKED  A  3  WEEK  HOLIDAY  TODAY  FOR  NEXT  YEAR,  WITH  A  GIRL  IM  FUCKING  EVERY  WEEK.  WHAT  HAVE  YOU  DONE?  SAT  IN  YOUR  OWN  PISS  FOR  12  HOURS  STRAIGHT.  CONGRATS,  HEY  IF  IT  MAKES  YOU  HAPPY  THEN  I  GIVE  YOU  MY  FULL  SUPPORT  JUST  TRY  AND  HAVE  A  SHOWER  EVERY  DAY  YE?  REPTILES.


Lol found this on Ytube. Wonder if anyone here has done this.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Shemaforash on June 17, 2015, 10:25:01 am
PEOPLE  THAT  HAVE  ME  ON  FACEBOOK  WILL  KNOW  THAT  I  HAVE  A  DEGREE,  I  WENT  TO  UNI.  I  BOOKED  A  3  WEEK  HOLIDAY  TODAY  FOR  NEXT  YEAR,  WITH  A  GIRL  IM  FUCKING  EVERY  WEEK.  WHAT  HAVE  YOU  DONE?  SAT  IN  YOUR  OWN  PISS  FOR  12  HOURS  STRAIGHT.  CONGRATS,  HEY  IF  IT  MAKES  YOU  HAPPY  THEN  I  GIVE  YOU  MY  FULL  SUPPORT  JUST  TRY  AND  HAVE  A  SHOWER  EVERY  DAY  YE?  REPTILES.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: FleetFox on June 17, 2015, 11:07:16 am
Yeah looking forward to this, realy enjoyed Fallout 3 and New Vegas. The level of customisationand building your own settlements is really cool. I think someone made a similar mod of Fallout 3 years ago, so its cool that the devs can steal good ideas from modders :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: F i n on June 17, 2015, 11:12:27 am
I hate you all for having to skip 4 pages of trashtalk. :D

Wasted like 15 minutes on reading through all the posts.

And just to make it clear: i at least have twice, maybe even thrice as much real life as you nerds. Stink cat etc. pp. Bla.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: 722_ on June 17, 2015, 11:33:05 am
Yeah looking forward to this, realy enjoyed Fallout 3 and New Vegas. The level of customisationand building your own settlements is really cool. I think someone made a similar mod of Fallout 3 years ago, so its cool that the devs can steal good ideas from modders :D


Yes I remember that mod, it was really buggy when I tried it. Hopefully fallout 4 will be less so but it is a Bethesda game after all
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: F i n on June 17, 2015, 12:21:42 pm
You hate ze trashtalk, but even you find it impossible to *not* ridicule that level of nerd-based denial

I found it hard to resist. :D

We are all nerds.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kafein on June 17, 2015, 01:09:40 pm

Lost it at "mark my fucking runes".
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 17, 2015, 03:08:41 pm
We're all in the same boat on that front, you think I wanted to agree with Xant?

You can be mr cool casual gamer *or* you can be MLG pro tournament-winner who became admin in the game you always play because you can be counted on to be online every single day. You can't be both, and if you're at the point where you feel the need to post on forums to explain how casual you are, it's already pretty clear which category you're in. We are all nerds to even be here.

it seems that Saxon's OR is more of an XNOR eheheh get it you fuckign nerds lol?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: darmaster on June 17, 2015, 03:47:06 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: rufio on June 17, 2015, 04:37:26 pm
i just came in here to say, xant is coolest guy i know, and shemaforash is a sensitive my old friendget. kk bye
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Shemaforash on June 17, 2015, 05:15:33 pm
:^)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2015, 05:29:05 pm
i just came in here to say, xant is coolest guy i know, and shemaforash is a sensitive my old friendget. kk bye
It's all true.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: //saxon on June 17, 2015, 11:24:14 pm



Microsoft gameplay but What a shitty way to show it off, locked at 30 fps in 720p... What are they thinking.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 18, 2015, 12:04:40 am
gunplay looks to have gotten an overhaul, way more fpsy and less stiff
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on June 18, 2015, 02:24:56 am



Microsoft gameplay but What a shitty way to show it off, locked at 30 fps in 720p... What are they thinking.

What nerd language is that, champion of cRPG?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 18, 2015, 02:42:11 am
That gameplay looked terrible, no real improvement from F3 where the gameplay was also the weakest link.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tor! on June 18, 2015, 05:19:58 pm
Bethesda hasnt moved forward on gameplay since.. Oblivion pretty much  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 18, 2015, 05:26:41 pm
Bethesda hasnt moved forward on gameplay since.. Oblivion pretty much  :rolleyes:
Yep, that gameplay would have looked no different if it was taken out of Oblivion with a gun modded in. I wonder if it's an engine limitation or something, all their games after Morrowind have had the exact same gameplay feel.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 18, 2015, 05:58:05 pm
Haters gonna hate
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: karasu on June 18, 2015, 06:03:03 pm
The formula sells, they are gonna milk every single bit of it, as long as people pay for it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 18, 2015, 06:12:32 pm
Yep, that gameplay would have looked no different if it was taken out of Oblivion with a gun modded in. I wonder if it's an engine limitation or something, all their games after Morrowind have had the exact same gameplay feel.

I thought Skyrim had a new engine. Which makes it even more amazing.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 18, 2015, 06:22:42 pm
I thought Skyrim had a new engine. Which makes it even more amazing.
Technically, but because everything feels so similar I'm guessing they just improved on their old engine and gave it a new name. That's what most studios do instead of creating a new engine from the ground up.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on June 18, 2015, 06:26:04 pm
Kind of like Arma 2 - Arma 3. New engine, but deep down still the same crap.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: cmp on June 18, 2015, 06:38:57 pm
I think it's more a combination of mediocre programming and animations than an engine limitation. I mean, the Oblivion engine was used for Civilization IV.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 18, 2015, 06:51:31 pm
They mock AC, but atleast even AC changes its gameplay more often... what the shit. Do Bethesda go around sucking people off?
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Thovex on June 18, 2015, 07:33:07 pm
AC changes their gameplay?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 18, 2015, 07:35:19 pm
They mock AC, but atleast even AC changes its gameplay more often... what the shit. Do Bethesda go around sucking people off?
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Lol now your just acting silly, go look at gameplay footage of morrowind, oblivion and skyrim. Then look at gameplay of AC 2, brotherhood, revelations, ac3, 4 and rogue.

Compared to AC, Beth is the god of change
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 18, 2015, 07:43:18 pm
No, at least AC adds some new gimmick. Bethesda adds maybe a few new shitty animations.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tibe on June 18, 2015, 09:06:06 pm
New gimmick? Are you kiddin me? Those gimmicks are fucking pathetic and never justified all those sequels they made. AC(new and fresh game), AC2(lots of new stuff and improvements), AC3(added guns and murica, if you into that sorta thing), Black Flag(improved the one thing everybody liked from the last game). Literally those are the only ones that should exsist and even that is spreading it a little thin. All others are basically worthless excuses of charging full-price.

I quess yeah, we are taking their work for granted. Voice acting, making new cutscenes and new stories is not easy. But the core gameplay is exactly the same it was back in 2007. They have improved on it and added a lot of gimics, but at its core its exactly the same. I am so sick of its artstyle, parkour, animus, stories, weapons and combat. AC quite frankly just disgusts me now.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on June 18, 2015, 09:50:42 pm
But the core gameplay is exactly the same it was back in 2007. They have improved on it and added a lot of gimics, but at its core its exactly the same. I am so sick of its artstyle, parkour, animus, stories, weapons and combat. AC quite frankly just disgusts me now.

Bethesda haven't even done that to the gameplay, heck they even reduced your choices from Morrowind.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tibe on June 18, 2015, 10:04:36 pm
Yeah, but the games core was changed when it came to TES. Added or lessened gimmicks, but the game was completely different. A totally new game. Which is what you cant say about a single AC sequel. I quess it also matters what we types of games are talking about here. Bethesdas games are generally freeroam exploration games, while AC just gives you the impression of being freeroam, while actually not giving you a single meaningful thing to do, outside the main missions. Black Flag ofcourse not included in this argument. That game was a freaking jewel.

If I think about Morrowind I think they did the TES sequels right. Morrowind wasnt really a game for the average player, it was more for a certain type of player. I quess they figured if their games would ever catch on they need to make em for the bland public. And so they did and they figured right.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 19, 2015, 05:05:57 am
"Graphics don't matter" - Howard disagrees:

Quote
In a panel presentation at E3, GameSpot reported that Howard talked about the importance of graphics and memory and improvements of Fallout 4 graphics than Fallout 3:

“If we make a world that has, not just more details, but more dynamic details that we can keep track of and stream in and load quicker, all of that suspends your disbelief that this is a real world. The graphics matter, they do matter in suspending your disbelief.”
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: cmp on June 19, 2015, 12:43:23 pm
Well, he's right. Graphics alone don't make a game but they do certainly matter.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on June 19, 2015, 11:12:48 pm
Well, he's right. Graphics alone don't make a game but they do certainly matter.
Of course he's right. My point is that after the F4 initial trailer came out and looked shit the apologists started chanting "graphics don't matter" and even Howard himself disagrees with the sentiment.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 19, 2015, 11:33:18 pm
I really dont care about graphics one bit tbh.. Gameplay still looks shit tho, maybe the quests will be tasty.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on July 17, 2015, 10:58:44 pm
New uncut exploration video.



Really hope the Power Armor isn't like a ''vehicle'' or got robot-ish features that you have to get in and can't use as regular armor 24/7.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Thovex on July 18, 2015, 02:43:00 pm
Probably you can just use it constantly, if not, day 1 mod rofl
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Golem on July 20, 2015, 11:15:58 pm
New uncut exploration video.



Really hope the Power Armor isn't like a ''vehicle'' or got robot-ish features that you have to get in and can't use as regular armor 24/7.
Probably need to power it somehow.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Angantyr on July 20, 2015, 11:39:36 pm
That may be what they are aiming for, a finite power source may be what is inserted in the back of the suit in the gameplay trailer, if not a key for some locking mechanism. Or it needs to recharge otherwise.

It doesn't make sense lore-wise though, only the very first generation of T45d had a finite energy source. Every powered combat armor has since then had microfusion packs that can keep them running for 10.000 years a piece. Even if it's a T60, why would it use old technology for anything else than game balance.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on July 21, 2015, 12:06:38 am
That may be what they are aiming for, a finite power source may be what is inserted in the back of the suit in the gameplay trailer, if not a key for some locking mechanism. Or it needs to recharge otherwise.

It doesn't make sense lore-wise though, only the very first generation of T45d had a finite energy source. Every powered combat armor has since then had microfusion packs that can keep them running for 10.000 years a piece. Even if it's a T60, why would it use old technology for anything else than game balance.

Junked armor, which you rebuilt, it's original power source went missing or bad so you juryrig an alternative
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: cmp on July 21, 2015, 12:08:25 am
Strip the servos and use it as plate armor.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on July 21, 2015, 12:11:17 am
Strip the servos and use it as plate armor.

So NCR heavy troopers?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: cmp on July 21, 2015, 12:12:35 am
Yep.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Casimir on July 21, 2015, 02:54:23 am
Get shredded by a Deathclaw when you try and kill it with your Laser Musket.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Angantyr on July 23, 2015, 09:32:27 pm
Junked armor, which you rebuilt, it's original power source went missing or bad so you juryrig an alternative
Wasn't there some BoS guys running around in a video somewhere? That all PA's in the game are salvage without microfusion packs seems a stretch.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Oberyn on July 23, 2015, 09:50:08 pm
Get shredded by a Deathclaw when you try and kill it with your Laser Musket.

I spent a large chunk of my first playthrough of New Vegas dying repeatedly to deathclaws cause I headed straight north to go to the city from the starting town.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Ikarus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:27 pm
I was scouting for manuals how to make your own pip-boy with 3d-printers and stuff until I was like:

"wait what."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJTecqt5NU4

"WHAT."

http://store.bethsoft.com/fallout-4-pip-boy-edition.html

...but then:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on August 31, 2015, 11:43:24 pm
It's sold out regardless (and yes Eurotrash ppl could buy it too before it got sold out)

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/28/9056765/fallout-4-pipboy-edition-preorder-sold-out


If u got ur hands on one of these u could sell them for a big sum of money and make some good profit
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Asheram on September 01, 2015, 01:34:49 am
It's sold out regardless (and yes Eurotrash ppl could buy it too before it got sold out)

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/28/9056765/fallout-4-pipboy-edition-preorder-sold-out


If u got ur hands on one of these u could sell them for a big sum of money and make some good profit




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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 01, 2015, 04:13:18 am
You could buy a wearable pipboy that holds your phone off etsy or someshit
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Ikarus on September 01, 2015, 12:10:16 pm
You could buy a wearable pipboy that holds your phone off etsy or someshit

I might just use my schools 3d printer
http://www.instructables.com/id/A-3D-printable-Pip-Boy-3000/
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Panos_ on September 08, 2015, 12:27:58 pm
I spent a large chunk of my first playthrough of New Vegas dying repeatedly to deathclaws cause I headed straight north to go to the city from the starting town.


There is a side mission that you have to kill an alpha male deathclaw and his "wife" on a quarry near the starting location, what a pain in the ass!

Even if you had the Gun Runners DLC installed, which gave you some good options for ranged shooting, it was still tough nut to crack!

I had to get on level 40, get 5 companions with me fully armed to pass that mission, with casualties of course!


Edit : I just watched the video Berenger posted a couple of pages back with some gameplay, game still looks the same as NV, but with some minor changes, I will buy it of course since i`m a big bethesda fan boy, but god damn it they need to fix 3 things.

1. Physical destruction, walls getting destroyed, trees getting chopped from explosions etc etc.
2. As plenty people said before me, the fighting animations, and fighting in general is bad at all Bethesda games (Skyrim and Fallout mostly), they seriously needs to fix that shit.
3. No more day 1 DLC`s, god damn money grabbing whores!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on September 08, 2015, 02:46:06 pm

There is a side mission that you have to kill an alpha male deathclaw and his "wife" on a quarry near the starting location, what a pain in the ass!

Even if you had the Gun Runners DLC installed, which gave you some good options for ranged shooting, it was still tough nut to crack!

I had to get on level 40, get 5 companions with me fully armed to pass that mission, with casualties of course!


Edit : I just watched the video Berenger posted a couple of pages back with some gameplay, game still looks the same as NV, but with some minor changes, I will buy it of course since i`m a big bethesda fan boy, but god damn it they need to fix 3 things.

1. Physical destruction, walls getting destroyed, trees getting chopped from explosions etc etc.
2. As plenty people said before me, the fighting animations, and fighting in general is bad at all Bethesda games (Skyrim and Fallout mostly), they seriously needs to fix that shit.
3. No more day 1 DLC`s, god damn money grabbing whores!

The hardest thing was the Alphas, took me ages, snipers, nades, everything and I could only do it by glitching out somehow haha
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on September 08, 2015, 04:00:53 pm
Cum back 2 me when u wreck Legendary Deathclaw on Very Hard + Hardcore mode.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Casimir on September 08, 2015, 04:01:23 pm
I killed a radroach once.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Panos_ on September 08, 2015, 05:13:18 pm
The hardest thing was the Alphas, took me ages, snipers, nades, everything and I could only do it by glitching out somehow haha

haha I did the same thing, I went on the spot were the Great Khans were hiding, and started killing them from up there, but somehow they managed to climb up , I started running like a French after I saw them charging towards me!  :lol:


I killed a radroach once.

I once killed a turtle  :twisted:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on September 08, 2015, 06:54:41 pm
I never found quarry junction too tough. 100 guns 6 strength and the anti materiel rifle with supressor and explosive rounds made it pretty easy.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Angantyr on September 08, 2015, 07:15:10 pm
I've done it with pistol and light armor and no sneaking or drugs. Crit build (with Run'n'Gun, Travel Light and Light Touch) + Lucky Shades + 1st recon beret + A Light Shining in Darkness + Ulysses Duster. But one hit and you're dead on Very Hard difficulty, even with double Toughness and maximized Endurance.

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Easiest way I've found without special ammo is just suppressed sniper rifle (ideally Christine's), and standard diplo-sniper build. The semi-hidden Deathclaw den across the Colorado River is more challenging than the quarry, if any of you've found it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Laufknoten on September 08, 2015, 07:44:43 pm
High crit./energy weapons build (with the right perks), fully upgraded laser rifle, max charge MF cells and you're good to go. You can easily take them out one by one. Some psycho and a gatling laser is a good backup if they spotted you and attack you in groups.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 09, 2015, 03:09:03 am
The hardest thing was the Alphas, took me ages, snipers, nades, everything and I could only do it by glitching out somehow haha

Get the Dart gun(-1000 pts dmg to limb).
Shoot Both Legs
Watch as Deathclaw hobbles like a fucking turtle
Kite the Fucker if needed.

For the quarry, after killing like 3 and then having one literally "spawn" in on me. I said enough. Gave myself infinite ammo, and then took out fat man...
Fallout came that day, and lots of fucking radiated deathclaws.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 09, 2015, 03:59:02 am
Just grabbed unlimited companions+robocop certified+More perks mods, I walked into the quarry leading an army of all vanilla companions, 6 upgraded protectron robots, a adult deathclaw and a yao guai.

I didn't even fire a shot.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on September 10, 2015, 09:41:49 am
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Post by: SeQuel on September 11, 2015, 07:25:16 pm
Full melee sneak build only way to go.

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I've had this screenshot for ages on my steam lol. Haven't played Fallout in ages.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Angantyr on September 11, 2015, 08:50:10 pm
Two of my NCR characters:

Jed Ultra (Animal Friend, Whiskey Rose, jet, psycho and alcohol addict, likes rifles and knives, ally of the White Horses, reluctant supporter of NCR)
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Ranger Slaughter (Cowboy, pistoleer, rigid NCR lawman and Sneering Imperialist)
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on September 11, 2015, 10:19:47 pm
Full melee sneak build only way to go.


> Makes a sneaky character
> Has a flaming sword as a weapon

Fallout logic
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Laufknoten on September 12, 2015, 12:13:35 am
Full melee sneak build only way to go.

I've had this screenshot for ages on my steam lol. Haven't played Fallout in ages.
Tried going melee in fallout but the melee animations are so gay I got cancer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Siiem on September 12, 2015, 12:35:58 am
Tried going melee in fallout Bethesda but the melee animations are so gay I got cancer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: SeQuel on September 12, 2015, 01:45:04 am
Bunch of haters drinking your haterade. I look fucking sick.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on September 12, 2015, 01:59:02 am
Yeah, is that why you're wearing the respirator?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 12, 2015, 04:45:43 am
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Laser Weapons is where it's at.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 12, 2015, 05:55:07 am
Fuck no, guns or go home. Just wish Guass rifle was consider a firearm like in the original games
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tor! on September 12, 2015, 05:18:33 pm
 
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Dooz on September 12, 2015, 10:22:31 pm
I killed a radroach once.

pics
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on October 23, 2015, 10:41:02 pm

17 days niggas
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on November 02, 2015, 03:15:12 pm
Gameplay video
https://vid.me/Vw0n
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2015, 03:17:54 pm
Why does every game have stupid frigging dog, Vibe? Can you tell me why? How would a dog even survive one second against a super mutant, Vibe?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on November 02, 2015, 03:23:07 pm
Why does every game have stupid frigging dog, Vibe? Can you tell me why? How would a dog even survive one second against a super mutant, Vibe?

He survives being put on fire as well :lol:

maybe its a super mutant transformed into a dog just waiting to anally devastate you when you're lookin away
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: darmaster on November 02, 2015, 03:51:55 pm
He survives being put on fire as well :lol:

maybe its a super mutant transformed into a dog just waiting to anally devastate you when you're lookin away

oh god here those creatures are known as Xant (°0°)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 02, 2015, 06:01:46 pm
preordered long ago dont give a shit what aanyone says will play will love will enjoy
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Laufknoten on November 02, 2015, 08:27:22 pm
Preordered yesterday on steam. Just a few days now...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on November 02, 2015, 08:52:06 pm
Only gaming series that I'd preorder alongside Deus Ex series without giving a damn about it being bad for the biz or not. BUT since my GPU fried I doubt my integrated GPU on the motherboard a.ka the Intel HD 4600 would be able to handle Fallout 4 plus studies is a bitch and luckily Fallout 4 is a singleplayers game so I guess I'll hold off on buying it till later on when everything is patched and all DLC has come out.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kadeth on November 03, 2015, 12:29:35 am
Tried going melee in fallout but the melee animations are so gay I got cancer.

Still better than being a ranged bundle of sticks.

Did anyone try unarmed in F3 or New Vegas? Can't remember how viable it was
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 03, 2015, 01:59:29 am
Did anyone try unarmed in F3 or New Vegas? Can't remember how viable it was

You can deal quite insane amounts of damage unarmed (items like claws and power fist count as unarmed too). However, getting close to an enemy without turning into a sieve is a little difficult when you are playing on very hard.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Algarn on November 03, 2015, 02:01:21 am
You can deal quite insane amounts of damage unarmed (items like claws and power fist count as unarmed too). However, getting close to an enemy without turning into a sieve is a little difficult when you are playing on very hard.

Power armor + powerfist + drugs + 10 STR & 10 END. Who's gonna take you down now ? :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 03, 2015, 02:06:36 am
Just recently completed another NV run. I don't know if you were playing on very hard or not, but I did and they are pretty much capable of stopping you unless you act fast and sneaky enough to bring the bastards down in a flash. Otherwise even normal gunfire can harm you effectively despite full STR+END coupled with power armor.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Algarn on November 03, 2015, 02:08:56 am
Was probably playing on hard or something. But I modded it so much that it might be kinda different  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 03, 2015, 02:10:40 am
Got to be that. I don't remember changing difficulty on my previous playthroughs and they all went so very easy. This is probably the first time I cranked it up and at least met a certain level of challenge for a change, which was nice actually :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kadeth on November 03, 2015, 04:39:30 am
You can deal quite insane amounts of damage unarmed (items like claws and power fist count as unarmed too). However, getting close to an enemy without turning into a sieve is a little difficult when you are playing on very hard.

I wonder if you can pick up a trash can lid and go 1h + shield!

I can't remember if you can even block in Fallout? Hopefully there's some defense against guns when playing melee. I wanna block bullets with an energy shield!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leesin on November 03, 2015, 08:29:55 am
Completed it mate
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on November 04, 2015, 04:50:03 pm
Just pre-ordered on Steam with my MGS 5 refund money. I better be able to get rid of the dog, or there will be hell to pay.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 04, 2015, 05:02:43 pm
Just pre-ordered on Steam with my MGS 5 refund money. I better be able to get rid of the dog, or there will be hell to pay.

you can go it alone with no companions, theres even a perk that gives you bonuses if you do
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: SeQuel on November 04, 2015, 07:37:18 pm
I'll be following my Fallout New Vegas build as a Melee/Ninja user. Judging by the perks I'll be one shotting everything with my x10 damage.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on November 05, 2015, 09:49:35 am
Any info on what the conversation system is like?

I hate when games (D&D based stuff etc) make you decide between being able to talk in complete sentences and being able to aim a gun/swing a sword/whatever (hurr u r strong u cant be charismatic or intelligent). Those should be separate: the game should make you decide between combat stuff, but conversation/intelligence things should be similar but separate decisions. Mass Effect did this well, for example, with the renegade/paragon options. Or not "well", but at least better.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: [ptx] on November 05, 2015, 09:52:27 am
You need to have less than 4 intelligence to attain true success in conversations.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on November 05, 2015, 09:54:56 am
Any info on what the conversation system is like?

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Post by: Rhekimos on November 05, 2015, 09:58:01 am
You need to have less than 4 intelligence to attain true success in conversations.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on November 05, 2015, 10:10:57 am
I actually think it'd make a lot of sense to have it be like

Strength
Dexterity
Constitution

Charisma
Intelligence
Wisdom

Or something. And you get separate points to assign to each. So you can be strong and charismatic, or agile and intelligent, or jack-of-all-trades, but it doesn't make you pick between combat and non-combat.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Bjord on November 05, 2015, 11:16:10 am
I actually think it'd make a lot of sense to have it be like

Strength
Dexterity
Constitution

Charisma
Intelligence
Wisdom

Or something. And you get separate points to assign to each. So you can be strong and charismatic, or agile and intelligent, or jack-of-all-trades, but it doesn't make you pick between combat and non-combat.

Uh.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Xant on November 05, 2015, 11:29:47 am
Uh.
Urk, bad smell. Go away.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on November 05, 2015, 04:51:33 pm
Fuck the dialogue in FO3, glad they removed dat shit.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on November 05, 2015, 08:26:43 pm
Dialogue was good in FNV tho
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Angantyr on November 05, 2015, 08:47:18 pm
It was. I'm worried about F4's, though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: gallonigher on November 05, 2015, 09:27:36 pm
I think our character actually has a voice now so that's a nice addition.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on November 05, 2015, 09:42:51 pm
I think our character actually has a voice now so that's a nice addition.

Meh. If we got Fallout 2 styled dialogue where intelligence and other stuff decided what dialogue u could use which made up for some funny moments then I'd take that any day over vanilla voiced dialogue.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Vibe on November 05, 2015, 10:42:58 pm
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Leshma on November 05, 2015, 11:31:27 pm
Dialogue was good in FNV tho

Chris Avellone was writing dat dialogue. Best you can expect from Bethsoft is more Skyrim like story and dialogue.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: LordBerenger on November 05, 2015, 11:52:46 pm
Chris Avellone was writing dat dialogue. Best you can expect from Bethsoft is more Skyrim like story and dialogue.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 06, 2015, 12:05:46 am
wish it would go back to the old dialogue, because i believe shit like this, will be a regular occurance.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kafein on November 06, 2015, 12:09:51 am
Makes me think, Oblivion had a far superior system for NPC conversations than Skyrim does, and I actually forgot about it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Kafein on November 06, 2015, 01:11:13 am
Well, Oblivion's system at least tried to introduce some emergent features into the conversations. Indeed it ended up sounding exceptionally awkward quite often (especially when people have other than neutral attitude), but the system itself was brilliant. In Skyrim and even the Witcher I can give you the exact line that each character will say, especially that fucking asshole landowner in Whiterun. It's only because the dialogues in those games cannot vary in multiple parts that it sounds cohesive. In terms of repetitiveness it is far worse.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - E3 Reveal
Post by: Tibe on November 07, 2015, 02:59:04 pm
Well, Oblivion's system at least tried to introduce some emergent features into the conversations. Indeed it ended up sounding exceptionally awkward quite often (especially when people have other than neutral attitude), but the system itself was brilliant. In Skyrim and even the Witcher I can give you the exact line that each character will say, especially that fucking asshole landowner in Whiterun. It's only because the dialogues in those games cannot vary in multiple parts that it sounds cohesive. In terms of repetitiveness it is far worse.

Isnt it kinda harsh to ask for nonrepetitivitiy in the dialog on your 25th playthrough? You only know all the lines because you replayed a game multiple times or stood in one place for far too long.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 07, 2015, 05:44:16 pm
Bought fallout 4 for like 41€.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 07, 2015, 11:19:49 pm
Bought fallout 4 for like 41€.

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pff amateur, 38 euros is da real price
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 07, 2015, 11:48:16 pm
Damn, how many potatoes did you buy with dem 3 euros ?  :o
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 08, 2015, 12:36:49 am
OH BOY ERE WE GO
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 08, 2015, 01:05:45 am
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Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 08, 2015, 02:17:52 am
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It's half full!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 08, 2015, 02:24:34 am
Yeah and it's rum.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 08, 2015, 06:23:41 pm
This is a great one... :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 08, 2015, 09:15:49 pm
Let's make a deal where we post working and good torrents when we find and test them out, right fellas?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 08, 2015, 09:18:44 pm
Fuck off, filthy pirate.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Tibe on November 08, 2015, 09:26:16 pm
Let's make a deal where we post working and good torrents when we find and test them out, right fellas?

Heh "post good torrents". Fcking betas. Why bother?  :lol: Its just too simple. Go to any half-decent site(they all basically get their shit from a single source these days anyway, which again makes me ask the question why even bother to insanely search anything?), kick a name in, filter by seeds and if thats no good, pick a less popular one from a uploader whose username has a lot of icons and shit next to it, which indicates he doesnt share garbage that gets your pc highjacked by the Chinese liberation army or African warlords hoping to unwillingly get you to fund their blooddiamonds and AKs.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 08, 2015, 09:31:51 pm
This is a great one... :D
Dan Bull is the single most cringeworthy person on Youtube.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 08, 2015, 09:32:22 pm
Looks decent so far. Ive seen a lot of clips bashing the graphics, ai etc, so theres the classic faults still from what i gathered.

Tbh ill probably play the game for the radio mainly, the rest ill expect to be meh just like previous games.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 08, 2015, 10:16:46 pm
Tbh ill probably play the game for the radio mainly.

You're gonna pay 50+ euros to listen to the radio ? wtf.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 08, 2015, 10:28:11 pm
When I'll get it I'll find a mod to replace the radio with the Enclave radio from Fallout 3. Bestest murrica radio + President John Henry Eden's voice makes me calm when travelling underground and being near scurry golems or deathclaws. Lets bring America back to greatness again


Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 08, 2015, 10:45:23 pm


Dunno why this geek journo is making fun of them bitches, when they have more silicon in their cheebones than both consoles combined. They don't need a system to play FO4, just plug it into their mouth hole and you're good to go :mrgreen:

Damn socialites have grown so desperate for attention, we're going to see more of this. And you guys thought actual big boobed girl gamers were bad.

Edit: When you finish watching second video and thumbnails pop up, you should know that bottom left corner dude is my hero :wink:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 08, 2015, 11:39:08 pm
And you guys thought actual big boobed girl gamers were bad.

I always said, there's no problem with some Twitch channels being 99% boobs (if applicable) and 1% gameplay, as long as I get to filter those channels.

Heh "post good torrents". Fcking betas. Why bother?  :lol: Its just too simple. Go to any half-decent site(they all basically get their shit from a single source these days anyway, which again makes me ask the question why even bother to insanely search anything?), kick a name in, filter by seeds and if thats no good, pick a less popular one from a uploader whose username has a lot of icons and shit next to it, which indicates he doesnt share garbage that gets your pc highjacked by the Chinese liberation army or African warlords hoping to unwillingly get you to fund their blooddiamonds and AKs.

Buying games legally has become way too convenient, I won't even bother. Worst case scenario I have two hours to refund it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 08, 2015, 11:40:06 pm
Buying games legally has become way too convenient, I won't even bother. Worst case scenario I have two hours to refund it.

Aka you have money? :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 08, 2015, 11:41:34 pm
Yes, in fact I do. Had to buy a 980 Ti to avoid my bank account overflowing.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Taser on November 08, 2015, 11:58:26 pm
Yes, in fact I do. Had to buy a 980 Ti to avoid my bank account overflowing.

gibe
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 09, 2015, 01:08:15 am
The price for the base F4 is so horrendous here that although I don't really want to, I guess I will have to pirate this. And probably I will pay my tribute once a reasonable discount has appeared, which most likely won't happen in the near future.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 09, 2015, 02:14:38 am
You're gonna pay 50+ euros to listen to the radio ? wtf.

Who said anything about paying? Maybe when its down to 5$ sale. Untill then... Yarr harr
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Tibe on November 09, 2015, 08:13:31 am
Yes, in fact I do. Had to buy a 980 Ti to avoid my bank account overflowing.

You central-Europeans and your decent wages.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2015, 09:18:11 am
Seems it was already pirated since there's people streaming the game
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Polobow on November 09, 2015, 09:27:42 am
Don't want to view anything because of spoilers, but is there a karma system? Couldn't find any indication of it existing.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Rhekimos on November 09, 2015, 09:30:39 am
Seems it was already pirated since there's people streaming the game

Mostly by German and French console users. I guess it was unlocked Sunday on PS4 and Xbone.

Also Twitch seems to be stomping them out lightning fast:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 09:53:02 am
Lots of shops sold console copies early and people are able to download the day 1/unlock patch...

Unfortunately it doesn't work with Steam this way.

And even me broken, poor student won't pirate. 40-50% "discount" in key stores... not gonna bother...
Besides, already got caught once and I don't wanna go through that hassle again with lawyer and shit.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Bjord on November 09, 2015, 10:33:12 am
Lots of shops sold console copies early and people are able to download the day 1/unlock patch...

Unfortunately it doesn't work with Steam this way.

And even me broken, poor student won't pirate. 40-50% "discount" in key stores... not gonna bother...
Besides, already got caught once and I don't wanna go through that hassle again with lawyer and shit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT CAUGHT PIRATING HAHA

if that isn't the epitome of sucking balls then i don't know what :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 10:41:53 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT CAUGHT PIRATING HAHA

if that isn't the epitome of sucking balls then i don't know what :lol:
I'd argue that you're the peak of human failure but... stop stalking me... fucking junkie...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 10:50:09 am
Quote
Embargoes are nothing new in the video game world, and though they’ve been the source of a lot of controversy the past few years, I fundamentally understand the need for their existence. Without the informal rules embargoes put in place, reviewing games would be a race to the bottom, with journalists scrambling to be the first ones done with a game in order to get their score out before everyone else. That would be awful for the press, the publishers and fans, for obvious reasons.

But sometimes embargoes get a little wonky, and that’s been the case this week when I received a truly strange email in my inbox from Bethesda PR informing me that I was only allowed to share the date and time of the Fallout 4 review embargo…today at this exact moment, November 6th at 10AM PST.

Yes, that’s correct, there was a specific embargo…for the embargo.

This became something of a running joke on Twitter TWTR +0.00% for the games journalism community last night, as even those with years of experience had never seen anything quite like that before.

Wow, it's getting worse and worse. Embargoes of embargoes now, way to go Bethesda!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 10:56:46 am
Also, Fallout 4 unlocks on Steam in about three hours. Use a New Zealand VPN to unlock it and you too can play it then.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2015, 11:19:44 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT CAUGHT PIRATING HAHA

if that isn't the epitome of sucking balls then i don't know what :lol:

Tbh Germany is very nazi about pirating, I mean I could pirate everything all day and would never get caught here because slovenia is a shit country and nobody is really looking for pirates. I'd reckon same goes for your place Bjord. Or are you trying to say that you're an expert at not getting caught pirating and are actually taking extra measures to not get caught? (aka private torrents/sharing, vpns/proxies, etc)?

Molly what happened, did you have to pay? :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 11:42:48 am
Lots of shops sold console copies early and people are able to download the day 1/unlock patch...

Unfortunately it doesn't work with Steam this way.

And even me broken, poor student won't pirate. 40-50% "discount" in key stores... not gonna bother...
Besides, already got caught once and I don't wanna go through that hassle again with lawyer and shit.

What was the game/movie
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 11:49:22 am
Two hours to release, boys.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 12:32:26 pm
Two hours to release, boys.
wat? it says 14 hours for me
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Thovex on November 09, 2015, 12:36:53 pm
If you VPN that shit you can play it earlier.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 01:05:51 pm
how does one VPN, also detailed instrctions would be nice ( maybe even with colourful pictures :) )so i dont get my dick stuck in vacuum cleaner again
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 01:27:02 pm
how does one VPN, also detailed instrctions would be nice ( maybe even with colourful pictures :) )so i dont get my dick stuck in vacuum cleaner again
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3s0ztf/step_by_step_vpn_tutorial_how_to_unlock_fallout_4/?

30 minutes
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 01:31:17 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3s0ztf/step_by_step_vpn_tutorial_how_to_unlock_fallout_4/?

30 minutes
many thanks
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 01:33:38 pm
many thanks
How many?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 01:38:21 pm
Tbh Germany is very nazi about pirating, I mean I could pirate everything all day and would never get caught here because slovenia is a shit country and nobody is really looking for pirates. I'd reckon same goes for your place Bjord. Or are you trying to say that you're an expert at not getting caught pirating and are actually taking extra measures to not get caught? (aka private torrents/sharing, vpns/proxies, etc)?

Molly what happened, did you have to pay? :D
What was the game/movie
Some shitty trash B-movie a friend suggested, don't even know the name anymore.
Months later I got a letter stating that my IP was connect to the torrent, uploading copyright secured material and this was not allowed and that I had to pay 800€ and sign papers not to do it ever again.
Went to a lawyer and he told me that the "proof" was legally questionable but going to court would be much more expensive but he could keep them busy with paper work for 3 years until the claim is void, for 200€.
So, yea, I paid 200€ to a lawyer to keep another lawyer off my ass for 3 years.
Considering my 'activity' at the time... still kinda cheap.

Thing is, Germany has companies specialized in collecting IPs off torrents, even uploading fake ones just for collecting. Then they go to a court, tell the judge "Look, they all uploaded which is illegal." Judge has no technical understanding whatsover and allows the company to go to the ISPs and demand the clear names of those IPs at that time, then the company sells those names to a law firm, spezialized in sending out hundreds of letters daily, demanding 500-1000€ for violation of copyright.
Most people still pay them directly instead of going my way and fight the demand with a lawyer of their own...

They get fucking rich with this scheme. So, yea, Germany is no gudz for torrentz... Personally, I switched to one-click-hosters...  :oops:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 01:39:31 pm
This is why you don't upload, Molly, you only download.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 09, 2015, 01:40:22 pm
20 minutes...
EDIT: Though, I've done some calculation and it seems it will be unlocked at 2AM our time for NZ. Also Bethesda wrote on their Twitter that they will postpone the release in NZ by 2 hours.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 01:50:04 pm
How many?
2
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 09, 2015, 02:00:32 pm
Anyone downloading?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 02:04:32 pm
Anyone downloading?
preloaded
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 09, 2015, 02:18:18 pm
The VPN didn't work for me, what could I do wrong?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 02:32:11 pm
"my car isn't working, fix it with all this information i have provided"
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 02:53:06 pm
f secure aint connecting for me :(

seems like everyone is trying to connect and australia died or something.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 03:24:51 pm
Anyone successful, would be nice if you tell us about eventual day 1 patch.
I got a free vpn with 500MB. If there is a patch and it's bigger, I won't bother.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
f secure aint connecting for me :(

seems like everyone is trying to connect and australia died or something.
Keep trying or try a different free vpn. Plenty of those.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 09, 2015, 03:40:27 pm
seems like everyone is trying to connect and australia died or something.

Pretty standard especially if it's a popular game like this. Try to find another free vpn.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 03:43:50 pm
Pretty standard especially if it's a popular game like this. Try to find another free vpn.
i tried 2 other vpn's so far and none have australia or new zeland but at least pleanty of japans where game comes out in 17th december :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 04:05:52 pm
Anyone succeeded yet? :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 09, 2015, 04:28:39 pm
Just gonna hold off till tomorrow, I got things to do and I don't wanna get distracted with the idea of playing FO4 already
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 09, 2015, 04:30:24 pm
Fuck this! Even a paid VPN didn't work for me. Guess I'll just download a cracker.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Rhekimos on November 09, 2015, 04:32:52 pm
Anyone successful, would be nice if you tell us about eventual day 1 patch.
I got a free vpn with 500MB. If there is a patch and it's bigger, I won't bother.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 04:35:51 pm
Yea, I'll just wait till tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 04:39:43 pm
hello

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vovka on November 09, 2015, 04:42:11 pm
v1.1.2 already on torrents   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 05:11:52 pm
spoileeeer

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 09, 2015, 05:17:10 pm
spoileeeer

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stahp plz
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 09, 2015, 05:43:44 pm
PS4 version seems to be really poorly done, struggling to keep 30 fps. You need Radeon 270X to achieve better performance on PC.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 05:54:48 pm
kek Molly that is a stupid-ass landlubber story. The trick is to torrent encrypted games and get the key separately. Legally, you merely downloaded a lot random gibberish.

By the way, I need to make sure that the PC controls are decent before considering this, any problems with that? Retarded inventory UI, stupidly huge HUD, that kind of things?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 09, 2015, 06:06:50 pm
They don't give a fuck what you downloaded. They threaten you with court if you don't pay sum they ask you. Since going to court can be expensive, many pay the sum. It's a typical bully tactics, it should be illegal but for some reason it isn't. Companies who do that shit are paid by MPAA.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Latvian on November 09, 2015, 06:07:47 pm
kek Molly that is a stupid-ass landlubber story. The trick is to torrent encrypted games and get the key separately. Legally, you merely downloaded a lot random gibberish.

By the way, I need to make sure that the PC controls are decent before considering this, any problems with that? Retarded inventory UI, stupidly huge HUD, that kind of things?
everything seems fine so far, pretty much like in fallout 3 only slightly changed, bunch of new features
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Richyy on November 09, 2015, 06:22:51 pm
Post your good torrent links when you have some
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 09, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
Random Steam review but the tone seems to be the same for all of them...

Quote
Early First Impressions:

Fallout 4 ended up being way more polished than I expected, I'm kind of blow away by how detailed some of the graphics are. It looks fantastic.

-For the first time in a Bethesda game you can create a Skinny, Muscular, or Fat character.
-The animations are really slick, the best I've seen from Bethesda so far.
-The gunplay feels nice and tight, and you now have the option to melee attack with firearms.
-There's tons of crafting in the game from cooking to chemistry to upgrading gear to building.
-Different armor is available for each limb, it's not just bodysuits like in Fallout 3.

Seems it's very well optimised out of the box. All claim Ultra settings with pinned 60fps and well spread cpu load.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 06:26:52 pm
If someone who got it knows if Enclave is in the game or there are Enclave references then tell me in spoiler. I've tried googling but no results.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 06:27:43 pm
They don't give a fuck what you downloaded. They threaten you with court if you don't pay sum they ask you. Since going to court can be expensive, many pay the sum. It's a typical bully tactics, it should be illegal but for some reason it isn't. Companies who do that shit are paid by MPAA.

Then don't give in if you have any kind of legal leg to stand on. You merely need to be more troublesome than the other prey.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 09, 2015, 06:34:27 pm
Most people aren't and that is where their profit lies. If you manage to threaten them to never again torrent anything, you've become a winner.

Back to FO4, seen some gameplay stream. Looks awful. Actually it is the same generic dungeons (random placement of furniture and loot) with bunch of cloned type enemies just like every other Bethsoft game. Don't have time for that shit anymore.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 06:39:15 pm
kek Molly that is a stupid-ass landlubber story. The trick is to torrent encrypted games and get the key separately. Legally, you merely downloaded a lot random gibberish.

By the way, I need to make sure that the PC controls are decent before considering this, any problems with that? Retarded inventory UI, stupidly huge HUD, that kind of things?
No Kafein, the "trick" is still to not upload. They only go after seeders.

They don't give a fuck what you downloaded. They threaten you with court if you don't pay sum they ask you. Since going to court can be expensive, many pay the sum. It's a typical bully tactics, it should be illegal but for some reason it isn't. Companies who do that shit are paid by MPAA.
And this. It's amazing this shit isn't illegal. "Pay us or we'll take you to court, which you can't afford."
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Tibe on November 09, 2015, 07:57:31 pm
Then don't give in if you have any kind of legal leg to stand on. You merely need to be more troublesome than the other prey.

Kinda agreeing with Leshma. These legal trolls have become an extremely regular thing in the modern times. Actually for a common person fighting it results in losing 10 times more money than asked, plus horrible amount of time. Even if you do have a legal leg, its like holding back a robber for 3 years with that leg, before you either win or it just leaves. Their whole purpose is not to win, but have enough reason to take you to court and make you fully aware that fighting them is a waste of time. Unless you try to prove a point and fight these assholes, there really is no other point. Its an absolutely perfect scam to rob basically anyone who has internet, while being not even against the law, but using it to steal from you.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 09:35:50 pm
All free VPNs are getting raped by enthusiastic Fallout fans. FML. Just going to wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 09, 2015, 09:40:33 pm
You're in for a treat... dunno how Todd Howard managed to sell this formula as best game ever, but I applaud him for that.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 09, 2015, 10:10:45 pm
Downloaded legally. Unlocked with a torrented key.
Game feels nice, but the mouse is a little jittery at times. Maybe my desk is dirty. We will never know.
Also I managed to accidentally choose the girl as a player character. Turns out there is a feminism perk in the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 09, 2015, 10:24:05 pm
You're in for a treat... dunno how Todd Howard managed to sell this formula as best game ever, but I applaud him for that.

What do you mean? The reviews rolling in seem pretty good.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 10:35:45 pm
Downloaded legally. Unlocked with a torrented key.
Game feels nice, but the mouse is a little jittery at times. Maybe my desk is dirty. We will never know.
Also I managed to accidentally choose the girl as a player character. Turns out there is a feminism perk in the game.

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Turns out there is a feminism perk in the game

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there is a feminism perk in the game

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feminism perk in the game


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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 09, 2015, 10:56:46 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 09, 2015, 10:58:27 pm
The claim is that they copied shield holding animations directly from Skyrim. And it doesn't seem unlikely.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 09, 2015, 11:05:36 pm
The claim is that they copied shield holding animations directly from Skyrim. And it doesn't seem unlikely.

THEY HAVE SHIELDS IN FALLOUT NOW?!
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 09, 2015, 11:07:09 pm
Nope. It is just about that one gif Leshma posted. Clearly that guy's clipboard magically turns into a shield as soon as he decides to stow it away.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 09, 2015, 11:11:39 pm
Removed the dark/cynical humor in the 4th Fallout, along with the possibility to be an asshole or a saint, according to the reviews. I guess the better FPS gameplay, craft system, and all that other stuff make up for it, but that's a bit sad to not get that crazed fallout universe like in New Vegas again. :(
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 11:17:21 pm
Removed the dark/cynical humor in the 4th Fallout, along with the possibility to be an asshole or a saint, according to the reviews. I guess the better FPS gameplay, craft system, and all that other stuff make up for it, but that's a bit sad to not get that crazed fallout universe like in New Vegas again. :(

Wonder if next Fallout will be 5 or an awesome one like New Vegas but made by Obsidian. Atleast maybe then I can hope that Enclave will pop up again. I'd love for Bethesda/Obsidian to make every 2nd game theirs. Like Obsidian - Bethesda - Obsidian - Bethesda etc.... Maybe then you can get some of the old school fallout 1-2 feel like in New Vegas with Obsidian and some of the newer Fallout 3 feel like Fallout 4 with Bethesda
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 11:18:28 pm
Removed the dark/cynical humor in the 4th Fallout, along with the possibility to be an asshole or a saint, according to the reviews. I guess the better FPS gameplay, craft system, and all that other stuff make up for it, but that's a bit sad to not get that crazed fallout universe like in New Vegas again. :(

Honestly the karma system always felt horribly forced and gamey to the extreme. If I have to trade it for better gameplay then I'm happy.

Also I managed to accidentally choose the girl as a player character. Turns out there is a feminism perk in the game.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 09, 2015, 11:19:41 pm
Wonder if next Fallout will be 5 or an awesome one like New Vegas but made by Obsidian. Atleast maybe then I can hope that Enclave will pop up again.

Next game they make will be TES 6, and then, EA is gonna buy Bethesda and start to put Microtransactions and 50€ DLCs everywhere.

And then, we'll have Call of Duty : Fallout 5. "Play as a brotherhood of steel warrior and no scope Super Mutants", and ghoul mode instead of zombie mode.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
Next game they make will be TES 6, and then, EA is gonna buy Bethesda and start to put Microtransactions and 50€ DLCs everywhere.

And then, we'll have Call of Duty : Fallout 5. "Play as a brotherhood of steel warrior and no scope Super Mutants", and ghoul mod instead of zombie mod.

EA will make TES Online

oh wait
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 09, 2015, 11:23:43 pm
Wonder if next Fallout will be 5 or an awesome one like New Vegas but made by Obsidian. Atleast maybe then I can hope that Enclave will pop up again. I'd love for Bethesda/Obsidian to make every 2nd game theirs. Like Obsidian - Bethesda - Obsidian - Bethesda etc.... Maybe then you can get some of the old school fallout 1-2 feel like in New Vegas with Obsidian and some of the newer Fallout 3 feel like Fallout 4 with Bethesda

I'd really like the Enclave to return as well. Surely they added a nice touch with Arcade Gannon and his little storyline in New Vegas, yet it wasn't satisfactory enough. A Fallout sequel based on the return of the Enclave and ideally Frank Horrigan (who is, as we all know a super mutant, and somehow survived) would be super awesome.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 11:34:57 pm
I'd really like the Enclave to return as well. Surely they added a nice touch with Arcade Gannon and his little storyline in New Vegas, yet it wasn't satisfactory enough. A Fallout sequel based on the return of the Enclave and ideally Frank Horrigan (who is, as we all know a super mutant, and somehow survived) would be super awesome.

I want to see a game where Enclave have become a bit more....nicer so they can play the role of a joinable heroic faction in that Fallout game without having them be the bad guys. Maybe have the game be set in Chicago where there should be Enclave left and have you the player as a baby brought up by the Enclave and ready to assume your position as an officer sent out to expand the Enclave and with the possibility of leaving Enclave and what not.

Tired of being forced down my throat with Brotherhood of Steel propaganda crap. That's why atleast it was nice in Fallout 3 that you could put in the virus and not blow up Raven's Rock and in a way support the Enclave. Although it didn't lead to much else. But with mods you could go on to join the Enclave fully later on.

Or worst case scenario (or good depending how you look at it) a Fallout 2 remake where you can pretty much join them and support president Dick Richardson
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 09, 2015, 11:39:51 pm
Removed the dark/cynical humor in the 4th Fallout, along with the possibility to be an asshole or a saint, according to the reviews. I guess the better FPS gameplay, craft system, and all that other stuff make up for it, but that's a bit sad to not get that crazed fallout universe like in New Vegas again. :(

Thats how it was with 3, which im kinda sad about, NV did it well tho.

Fallout has always been about the the dialogue, and good writers. something bethesda just lacks
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 09, 2015, 11:40:47 pm
I want to see a game where Enclave have become a bit more....nicer so they can play the role of a joinable heroic faction in that Fallout game without having them be the bad guys. Maybe have the game be set in Chicago where there should be Enclave left and have you the player as a baby brought up by the Enclave and ready to assume your position as an officer sent out to expand the Enclave and with the possibility of leaving Enclave and what not.

Tired of being forced down my throat with Brotherhood of Steel propaganda crap. That's why atleast it was nice in Fallout 3 that you could put in the virus and not blow up Raven's Rock and in a way support the Enclave. Although it didn't lead to much else. But with mods you could go on to join the Enclave fully later on.

Or worst case scenario (or good depending how you look at it) a Fallout 2 remake where you can pretty much join them and support president Dick Richardson

I have always liked the self-righteous technology-crazed BoS, but there is also a special place in my heart for the Enclave baddies :D
As a matter of fact, the Arcade storyline and the Enclave remnants pretty much left a solid impression that the Enclave could still emerge as good guys. I hope they consider making it real someday. I too would like to join them without immediately becoming the villain for doing so.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Taser on November 09, 2015, 11:43:51 pm
I want to see a game where Enclave have become a bit more....nicer so they can play the role of a joinable heroic faction in that Fallout game without having them be the bad guys. Maybe have the game be set in Chicago where there should be Enclave left and have you the player as a baby brought up by the Enclave and ready to assume your position as an officer sent out to expand the Enclave and with the possibility of leaving Enclave and what not.

Tired of being forced down my throat with Brotherhood of Steel propaganda crap. That's why atleast it was nice in Fallout 3 that you could put in the virus and not blow up Raven's Rock and in a way support the Enclave. Although it didn't lead to much else. But with mods you could go on to join the Enclave fully later on.

Or worst case scenario (or good depending how you look at it) a Fallout 2 remake where you can pretty much join them and support president Dick Richardson

Just can't handle the Brotherhood styling on you.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 09, 2015, 11:50:21 pm
Just can't handle the Brotherhood styling on you.

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Proof why Enclave is the best of them all in every Fallout game ever made:



Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 09, 2015, 11:57:54 pm
This site says the performance is quite bad:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2177-fallout-4-pc-video-card-fps-benchmark-all-resolutions
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 10, 2015, 12:11:44 am
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Sgt.Dornan (http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Sgt.Dornan)

http://www.soundboard.com/search.aspx?keyword=Fallout (http://www.soundboard.com/search.aspx?keyword=Fallout)

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/fallout-sb (http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/fallout-sb)
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 10, 2015, 12:16:11 am
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Sgt.Dornan (http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Sgt.Dornan)

http://www.soundboard.com/search.aspx?keyword=Fallout (http://www.soundboard.com/search.aspx?keyword=Fallout)

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/fallout-sb (http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/fallout-sb)

Shame soundboards are part of an ancient time when people used Vent and didn't know so much about this. Well...atleast you can make prank calls with them.

EDIT: Holy fuck this guy using the soundboards is funny tho. Laughed so hard.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 12:16:20 am
This site says the performance is quite bad:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2177-fallout-4-pc-video-card-fps-benchmark-all-resolutions

It's fine but not for dat graphics quality. It's way better than console versions tho.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Golem on November 10, 2015, 01:10:07 am
Yeah, it lagged on me a few times when I was looking over the wasteland. Especially in forests, during fog.
I just got to a part that's pretty scary. Felt I was playing Amnesia for a moment. The dialog is much like Witcher 3, where you just choose between different aproaches, rather than selecting a sentence. The environment is also much more alive than the previous games. Like this one time I got jumped by an iradiated bear. Fortunately some dogs apeared and helped me kill it.
That's it, gotta get those fusion cells.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Kafein on November 10, 2015, 08:38:26 am
It's fine but not for dat graphics quality. It's way better than console versions tho.


The peasantry in that video though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 08:42:43 am
Liking it so far. Graphics are a bit weird. They look good sometimes and bad other times, mostly based on lighting. They're good enough though imo.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 10, 2015, 08:52:10 am
Liking it so far. Graphics are a bit weird. They look good sometimes and bad other times, mostly based on lighting. They're good enough though imo.

Yeah same opinion. Sometimes good and other times bad. Games is good though, nothing exceptional so far (played only 3 hours). Really surprised they put so much thought into this whole buildings/settlement feature, liking it a lot.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Tibe on November 10, 2015, 09:19:27 am
Its an okay game sofar. Nothing too shockingly cool nor bothering. I do really enjoy the fact that they decided to turn the bulky heavy power armor, into something more similar of a customizable mech, than just armor. I was never really impressed with the powerarmor in the last Fallout. Was a complete meh.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 10, 2015, 12:25:35 pm
Anyone playing melee? Seems pretty nice, a challenge if anything, since the game is probably pretty face-rolley otherwise.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 10, 2015, 12:39:34 pm
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How to make Fallout 4 PC not feel like shit

Fix an otherwise amazing game. INIs are located in C:\Users\{YOUR NAME}\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\

Problem 1: Mouse aiming feels like shit because of mouse acceleration

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Controls] section of both files, add this line:
    bMouseAcceleration=0


Problem 2: Mouse aiming still feels like shit because vertical sensitivity is half as much as horizontal (seriously Bethesda?)

    Open Fallout4.ini
    In the [Controls] section, find fMouseHeadingXScale
    On the next line, make fMouseHeadingYScale 2x the amount of fMouseHeadingXScale


Problem 3: The FOV is locked at 70/80 because you're playing this on a couch from 8 feet away with a controller, right? Oh, you aren't?

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Display] section of both files, add the following lines:
    fDefaultWorldFOV=90
    fDefault1stPersonFOV=90
    90 is the default FOV of most FPS games, but you can change that to whatever makes you happy
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 10, 2015, 12:39:47 pm
Anyone playing melee? Seems pretty nice, a challenge if anything, since the game is probably pretty face-rolley otherwise.

Here's a challenge. Play it as much of a pacifist way as you can with maxed charisma and what not and only using weak *non* laser/plasma weapons.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 10, 2015, 01:12:26 pm
Here's a challenge. Play it as much of a pacifist way as you can with maxed charisma and what not and only using weak *non* laser/plasma weapons.

Because deathclaws love diplomacy and handshakes :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 10, 2015, 01:44:21 pm
Because deathclaws love diplomacy and handshakes :lol:

Some are friendly, the intelligent ones should be reasoned with! Allthough they are probably not in fallout4
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 10, 2015, 01:49:54 pm
Respect Goris and Xarn (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Deal_with_the_deathclaw)!

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Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Angantyr on November 10, 2015, 03:04:19 pm
Yes, it's a shame they left the diplomatic approach/playing through the game with only your wits since Fallout 3, which was a staple of F1 and 2 (but nice to see it return in Age of Decadence).

Game seems decent so far, only 30 min in, though the first five minutes made me cringe, just like the baby, bible-quoting, birthday part of F3, that's not how I think you should start a new Fallout game. But next time I know to just rush through it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 03:17:45 pm
Yes, it's a shame they left the diplomatic approach/playing through the game with only your wits since Fallout 3, which was a staple of F1 and 2 (but nice to see it return in Age of Decadence).

Game seems decent so far, only 30 min in, though the first five minutes made me cringe, just like the baby, bible-quoting, birthday part of F3, that's not how I think you should start a new Fallout game. But next time I know to just rush through it.
I liked the beginning. The whole peaceful, normal, idyllic family life was a great contrast to the nuclear explosion. Suddenly hearing about bombs being dropped on the TV, then having to rush to the shelter, then seeing the blast, etc., shows the suddenness and unreality of it all much better than the previous Fallouts.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leesin on November 10, 2015, 03:31:07 pm
Yeah, I really liked the intro, it was better than I expected and also had a nice twist. The intro's are meant to be a little cheesy and "cringey", there's a humour to it as well as it actually fitting the quirky sci-fi setting. I haven't got to play much yet but so far I am really quite pleased, I think the visuals are fine, in fact I really like them, there are still definitely things to be improved but we know the modders will do it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Vibe on November 10, 2015, 03:53:53 pm
Intro was nice, but I don't like the story behind Vault 111, pretty uninteresting. Also not the biggest fan of conversation system in F4... YES - NO - FUCK OFF - MAYBE
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Angantyr on November 10, 2015, 04:14:54 pm
I understand it was done as an obvious contrast, still made me cringe. Liked the part after the explosions, that we experienced going into the vaults etc, though it had already been spoiled pre-release.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 10, 2015, 04:16:55 pm
I have to say I am surprised how the gun combat and melee combat turned out. Can actually cut off limbs on enemies (only tried ghouls) while they are still alive.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 04:35:34 pm
I'm going to finish main story and forget about this game for awhile. Side quests are awful.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 10, 2015, 04:42:07 pm
Well the game took too long to unpack last night so I gotta wait till later in the evening to actually start playing
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 10, 2015, 04:59:11 pm
Man the dialogue options are horrible, picked the wrong option because I thought he would say something else and now I'm a douche and the guy won't deal with me anymore :(
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 05:00:13 pm
I like that enemies are more dynamic now and can do unique stuff, e.g., ghouls crawling from narrow windows.

But yes, the conversation system... come on, why? How the fuck am I supposed to know what "sarcastic" is going to be?

I hope someone mods it so that it's F3 style dialogue where you see the full text.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leesin on November 10, 2015, 05:03:50 pm
Well the game took too long to unpack last night so I gotta wait till later in the evening to actually start playing

Wut? you got a potato? unpacked in under 10 minutes for me.

So yeah I played a bit more, it is definitely fun, the visuals are still nice after what I've seen but I have come across some badly textured faces and also some glitches during conversations, but yes again we know bugs will be fixed by some point and bad textures will be improved by modders over time. One other thing that bothered me is the gore, well the blood, it looked really shit and out of place when the enemies were blowing apart etc, like really fake compared to the texturing and graphics of everything else, running everything at max except for god rays so I am looking forward to modder to also fix the blood lol.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 05:37:32 pm
This site says the performance is quite bad:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2177-fallout-4-pc-video-card-fps-benchmark-all-resolutions

You say that but at 1080p it's looking fine. Most people haven't moved above 1080p so whoop de doo. Oh no it's not getting 60fps at 4k...
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Banok on November 10, 2015, 05:39:54 pm
My main problem with bethesda games is the difficulty is nonexistant or very easy to break, like skyrim stacking enchants to 1 shot anything.

How is fo4? will I have to wait for mods for basic stuff like not being able to pause game and spam healing items?

also is there any mode like no vats? or survival like NV had?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 10, 2015, 05:41:59 pm
My main problem with bethesda games is the difficulty is nonexistant or very easy to break, like skyrim stacking enchants to 1 shot anything.

How is fo4? will I have to wait for mods for basic stuff like not being able to pause game and spam healing items?

also is there any mode like no vats? or survival like NV had?

I think theres survival, but from the looks of it its still a faceroll if you use guns.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 10, 2015, 05:43:35 pm
Wut? you got a potato? unpacked in under 10 minutes for me.

The fuck? How? I got a nice rig, no SSD tho.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 10, 2015, 05:52:18 pm
I think theres survival, but from the looks of it its still a faceroll if you use guns.

How 2 survival diff on fallout 4 :

-3 luck to get more ammo in crates & more caps
- 3 charisma if you're a lonely guy, so you tank better and can carry more things by yourself
- 2 per to get the rifleman perk, use only single fire weps to conserve ammo, 5 per to get bonuses on explosives to deal with bosses. If you're a noob in firefights, go for scoped rifles & the sniper perk
-get as much endurance and int to heal, and tank better, get access to crates and safes, etc.
-STR so you can improve your armor & weapons
-power armor (pairs up with high INT char for fusion cores duration).
- don't play it like a retard, hide from groups of ennemies and try to pick them one by one
- use drugs

gratz, ur now pro survivor, who doesn't care about food, radiations, water, or diseases, or his own addictions to drugs.

I want a real survival mode, like adding less bonuses from drugs, needs for food, water and such, etc... that's too simple to survive as long as you play it smart.

Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Angantyr on November 10, 2015, 06:05:15 pm
My main problem with bethesda games is the difficulty is nonexistant or very easy to break, like skyrim stacking enchants to 1 shot anything.

How is fo4? will I have to wait for mods for basic stuff like not being able to pause game and spam healing items?

also is there any mode like no vats? or survival like NV had?
Play with house rules? In my last two FNV playthroughs I played with no healing allowed, plus perma death in one of them. It was interesting and required an entirely different approach. But I also know that game through and through. An alternative for a game you know less well could be to only heal when sleeping in your own bed.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 10, 2015, 06:06:16 pm
Most annoying bug for me is where the resolution changes in game (but stays the same) however my crosshair shifts over part of my screen but my gun stays in the same place
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 10, 2015, 06:30:06 pm
Dat shitstorm tho.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4

That's the result when dumbasses are overhyped. They expect more than they should've expected, and they're mad after that when they get what they should've expected from the beginning.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 06:43:00 pm
Dat shitstorm tho.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4

That's the result when dumbasses are overhyped. They expect more than they should've expected, and they're mad after that when they get what they should've expected from the beginning.  :lol:
As usual, most of the complaints are retarded. Pretty sure it was the exact same thing when Skyrim came out, now it's got a 8+ user score.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Angantyr on November 10, 2015, 06:51:48 pm
Just played the beginning again, and yeah it's not so bad, guess it just triggered bad memories from F3's shitty opening.

Is the Vault-Tec guy supposed to look like Todd Howard?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 10, 2015, 07:06:14 pm
Dat shitstorm tho.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-4

That's the result when dumbasses are overhyped. They expect more than they should've expected, and they're mad after that when they get what they should've expected from the beginning.  :lol:

Never trust a review giving a 10/10 or a 0/10. Usually biased as fuck.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Polobow on November 10, 2015, 07:09:20 pm
How to make Fallout 4 PC not feel like shit

Fix an otherwise amazing game. INIs are located in C:\Users\{YOUR NAME}\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\

Problem 1: Mouse aiming feels like shit because of mouse acceleration

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Controls] section of both files, add this line:
    bMouseAcceleration=0


Problem 2: Mouse aiming still feels like shit because vertical sensitivity is half as much as horizontal (seriously Bethesda?)

    Open Fallout4.ini
    In the [Controls] section, find fMouseHeadingXScale
    On the next line, make fMouseHeadingYScale 2x the amount of fMouseHeadingXScale


Problem 3: The FOV is locked at 70/80 because you're playing this on a couch from 8 feet away with a controller, right? Oh, you aren't?

    Open both Fallout4.ini and Fallout4Prefs.ini
    In the [Display] section of both files, add the following lines:
    fDefaultWorldFOV=90
    fDefault1stPersonFOV=90
    90 is the default FOV of most FPS games, but you can change that to whatever makes you happy


Thanks Molly! Thovex could you add this to your post?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 07:50:22 pm
That's the result when dumbasses are overhyped. They expect more than they should've expected, and they're mad after that when they get what they should've expected from the beginning.  :lol:

Guilty as charged. Honestly expected improvements this time, can't believe they are milking same game formula for almost 15 years.

No hardcore mode afaik.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Algarn on November 10, 2015, 07:51:45 pm
Never trust a review giving a 10/10 or a 0/10. Usually biased as fuck.

Yes, also saw plenty of trolls/bot likes, giving 0/10 s to every recent game. But there's a nice bunch of retards giving ratings like 2/10, like those were waiting for the GOTY, while they got a bethesda game in their hands, with the problems that come with Bethesda's productions in general.

People. People never change.

And yes, I'm not a fallout fan, but giving it 0/10 because the hardcore mode/dark humor are missing is plain bullshit. Besides from some technical issues, the content seems to be worth the money.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: LordBerenger on November 10, 2015, 08:09:35 pm
And yes, I'm not a fallout fan, but giving it 0/10 because the hardcore mode/dark humor are missing is plain bullshit. Besides from some technical issues, the content seems to be worth the money.


Guilty as charged. Honestly expected improvements this time, can't believe they are milking same game formula for almost 15 years.

No hardcore mode afaik.

Guessing it's because either Bethesda disliked New Vegas (which sold good and was awesome but ''dat metacritic rating must be high''...right?) or because they're gonna keep on doing every ''official Fallout'' like Fallout 3, 4, 5 made by Bethesda and with their touch and a second one just like New Vegas be done by some other studio. I'd like that though. Because after Fallout 4 there's gonna come DLC within the next 1-1.5 years at best and after that the focus will be on the next TES game most likely so there will be time in-between Fallout 4 and 5. So maybe and hopefully they'll bring it back in another Fallout game that's made by Obsidian.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 08:13:24 pm
I love the relentless Witcher 3 comparisons when other than them both being RPGs they're nothing alike at all.

Hell Witcher 3 is hardly the paragon for gaming that people make it out to be, sure it looks great but has some pretty serious flaws as it is.

I'm enjoying FO4 so far, I'm not far in as it took all day to get delivered but I really don't see where the complaints on this scale are warranted, most of the problems are controls related and that's a pain in the arse but it's not like it doesn't work. No crashes, one bug, looks decent, runs great. By modern standards that's a damn fine release.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 10, 2015, 08:26:29 pm
Having a fun time playing it.

I remember some E3 interview with Howard where he said that they asked Id Software for advice about the shooter elements and it kinda shows, doesn't it?
Gun gameplay is good and solid.
But I kinda feel like it's missing a proper RPG part. Agree on dialogs being 'meh' due to the short form options.
I do like the new loose dialog form tho with the cinematic approach on angles and that you can just turn around and walk away in the middle :D

Solid release with just minor issues which probably will be fixed in bit.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 08:29:18 pm
Gameplay is a hell of a lot better than any of the previous titles, feels sharp and the mix of VATs and FPS blends really well. I've heard bad things about the story but I guess I'll find out with that.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Overdriven on November 10, 2015, 08:39:10 pm
I'm going to sit on this one till it goes on sale I think. I never really understood the Fallout hype. They are good games but nothing special.

Hell Witcher 3 is hardly the paragon for gaming that people make it out to be, sure it looks great but has some pretty serious flaws as it is.

Heresy!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 08:41:11 pm

Console versions run slower, last longer. They got twice the value for their buck. Be jelly.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 08:51:25 pm
Heresy!

Psh, Witcher 3 has had more crashes and bugs than Arkham Knight on my machine.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Molly on November 10, 2015, 09:07:09 pm
Psh, Witcher 3 has had more crashes and bugs than Arkham Knight on my machine.
Then your machine was the issue :P

(click to show/hide)
My first house.
Tho I have issues with lights. On some walls they work, on some they don't. I don't really understand the problem but... oh well... :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Tibe on November 10, 2015, 09:10:12 pm
As usual, most of the complaints are retarded. Pretty sure it was the exact same thing when Skyrim came out, now it's got a 8+ user score.

Well...some of the points were legit. Like the UI really is a piece of trash. I dunno why, but absolutely nothing about it feels natural and some parts are even straight up confusing ontop of that the Pip boy interface seems rather slow. Im trying to use it as little as possible. Also the new perk/skillsystem is a bit of a hit and a miss really.

I do however really like the combat and traveling. In Fallout 3 and NV I was almost never scared of shit. In this one, traveling is actually kind of scary. The gouls are very well done. Those bastards are very hard to hit, my VATS is inaccurate as fuck, so im almost never using it and ontop of that sneak isnt OP at all anymore. All that makes it a bit more challenging and fun, in a decent way.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jacko on November 10, 2015, 09:18:16 pm
Sheeeeit sorry guys no Melee we busy playing Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 09:22:05 pm
Will chadz break the record? What was it, 111 hours in 7 days?
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 09:42:43 pm
Hell Witcher 3 is hardly the paragon for gaming that people make it out to be, sure it looks great but has some pretty serious flaws as it is.
Witcher 3 really is the paragon of gaming people make it out to be. Objectively, it's amazing. The amount of content and the quality of said content is mindblowing. Now, I'm not that big of a fan of it myself, but that's because of personal tastes. Fallout 4 so far is pretty good, but if TW3 doesn't win GOTY then there's something rotten in the state of Denmark.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 10, 2015, 09:54:01 pm
Sheeeeit sorry guys no Melee we busy playing Fallout 4.

So its delayed from 2025 to 2030? Its cool man, i got time!

I always look at negative reviews on steam, they generally give a very good insight. Unless they are blatantly hating the game, but many of them are pretty legit. So far ive gotten that its worse than FNV but better than FO3. Im honestly surprised it isnt "overwhelmingly positive" since the hype was so massive, i guess it must really have some major flaws then.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 10, 2015, 10:16:17 pm
To be honest I hated New Vegas. Never got how it was so popular. If it's better than Fallout 3 then that's good.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 10:32:56 pm
Witcher 3 really is the paragon of gaming people make it out to be. Objectively, it's amazing. The amount of content and the quality of said content is mindblowing. Now, I'm not that big of a fan of it myself, but that's because of personal tastes. Fallout 4 so far is pretty good, but if TW3 doesn't win GOTY then there's something rotten in the state of Denmark.

But it also has some pretty serious issues that people like to ignore. It has a backwards difficulty curve, is pretty buggy, not particularly well optimised, the UI and menu systems aren't great and the combat is mediocre. Why should Witcher 3 get a pass on these things based on the amount of content you get?

When Skyrim was about all people did was complain about the shit gameplay, now the gameplay is pretty good in Fallout 4 they complain about something else. Give every game the same criticism nobody should get passes for anything, if there's a problem then there's a problem.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 10:34:20 pm
I always look at negative reviews on steam, they generally give a very good insight. Unless they are blatantly hating the game, but many of them are pretty legit. So far ive gotten that its worse than FNV but better than FO3. Im honestly surprised it isnt "overwhelmingly positive" since the hype was so massive, i guess it must really have some major flaws then.

Steam reviews are garbage. There are few decent on gaming subreddits from fans of Elder Scrolls and Fallout series.

Thing about Bethesda games is they come out every four or five years. In the meantime there is new generation of gamers who haven't tried those games before. Elder Scrolls (or new Fallout) tend to have quite an effect on those who never tried them. But for me who is playing this same game for 15 years, enough is enough.

Over 500 hours in ESIII: Morrowind, 200 hours in ESIV: Oblivion, 200 hours in Fallout 3, 150 hours in Fallout New Vegas, 100 hours in ESV: Skyrim. This time around will be no more than 50 hours from me, as soon I finish main story I'm done with this game. When and if they decide to bring content to another level, make it look less copy/paste randomly and more organic and meaningful, when they put some work into quests, bring some gameplay variety and offer true RPG system, not their system where you can do everything but its up to you to limit yourself if you prefer that way, then maybe I'll clock another few hundred hours on Bethesda game.

You see irradiated bear and you're like "wow isn't this cool". I see random creature placement by some schmuck employee of Bethesda Studios. Sense of I've played this for so long that I'm able to see how game subsystems run in behind is too damn strong and it really bothers me at this point. They should really work on bringing immersion to another level.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 10:37:40 pm
But it also has some pretty serious issues that people like to ignore. It has a backwards difficulty curve, is pretty buggy, not particularly well optimised, the UI and menu systems aren't great and the combat is mediocre. Why should Witcher 3 get a pass on these things based on the amount of content you get?

When Skyrim was about all people did was complain about the shit gameplay, now the gameplay is pretty good in Fallout 4 they complain about something else. Give every game the same criticism nobody should get passes for anything, if there's a problem then there's a problem.
A backwards difficulty curve? You mean it starts out hard and ends up easy? That's how 99.9% of games work. I think you'll have a hard time finding consensus that Witcher 3 is buggier than an average open world game. And on what do you base your claim of poor optimization on? It looks amazing, so it's not surprising it's demanding. Combat being mediocre is just your opinion.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 10, 2015, 10:44:34 pm
Combat has always been piss poor in Witcher games, it is trademark of the whole series. But that probably has something to do with me and my personal standards. Fifteen years ago Morrowind was fine combat wise and Gothic was really good. Right now both those games are a joke when it comes to combat. After Warband and Dark Souls every other combat system seems subpar. You can argue that Witcher 3 has decent combat or slightly better than average and I'll back it up. But that doesn't cut it anymore, not for me.

Same goes for this "good" gameplay of Fallout 4. This is piss poor imho. Most weapons still lack a punch, I'm not in awe with limb system (seen it before), melee is worse than in first Deus Ex. Actually I prefer Deus Ex weapons feel and those wonky hit animations than this. That says a lot because Deus Ex is from 2000.
Title: Re: Fallout 4 - Release 10 nov
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 10, 2015, 10:53:18 pm
A backwards difficulty curve? You mean it starts out hard and ends up easy? That's how 99.9% of games work. I think you'll have a hard time finding consensus that Witcher 3 is buggier than an average open world game. And on what do you base your claim of poor optimization on? It looks amazing, so it's not surprising it's demanding. Combat being mediocre is just your opinion.

Backwards curve was the wrong thing to say. It's more like an right angle. You hit about level 14 and there is no difficulty.

Either way the point wasn't the issues themselves Xant, the point was they're ignored by everyone whereas something like Fallout gets ragged on for everything you can think of. That's the problem, if you're gonna pick apart all of one game's faults then do it to all of them.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 10, 2015, 10:59:39 pm
Well obviously, if people like the game they'll ignore the shortcomings, if they dislike a game, they'll talk about nothing but shortcomings.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 10, 2015, 11:14:30 pm
Witcher 3 has some of the best writing of any RPG the last decade, probably even the best written since Torment.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 12:00:44 am
So basically every single enemy pops up out of nowhere now. Every single enemy always gets you in an ambush (even the fucking mole rats or radroaches), because you won't be seeing them until they decide to gangbang you 90% of the time. Surprise factor, eh? Bethesda is sooooo innovative.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 11, 2015, 12:52:01 am
Feels like playing Doom 3, especially in underground areas where they seem to spawn in bigger numbers over time. Like GTA police.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 01:22:21 am
Feels like playing Doom 3, especially in underground areas where they seem to spawn in bigger numbers over time. Like GTA police.

2 hours in and I feel like I am playing some generic zombie shooter. All those feral ghouls appearing out of thin air... That I'll be willing to stomach, but it isn't all there is to it. So far, the only exception has been the raiders. And it is only their idle chatter that gives away their presence. I am surprised Bethesda let them slip. Some of you might call me a naysayer, but I have yet to feel that this is a Fallout game (be it the originals or the previous Bethesda works, all of which I loved). All of this seems to be rushed just for some eye candy.

Also, looking at the pipboy map, it seems that the map is quite small. Any ideas on that?

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kasigi_Yabu on November 11, 2015, 01:31:40 am
Enjoying the game loads so far but the wasteland is merciless, after just 2 hours it broke my graphics card :(

Was playing it with the latest nvidia drivers, ran it on optimum settings but that still didn't save me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 11, 2015, 01:33:52 am
The fuck? How? I got a nice rig, no SSD tho.

Maybe it's my SSD then, but yeah under 10 minutes.

My main problem with bethesda games is the difficulty is nonexistant or very easy to break, like skyrim stacking enchants to 1 shot anything.

How is fo4? will I have to wait for mods for basic stuff like not being able to pause game and spam healing items?

also is there any mode like no vats? or survival like NV had?

I am playing on just hard atm and I have been in some sticky situations and I've died a few times from stuff exploding near me or the AI pelting me with frag nades lol. If I feel the game getting easier, or too easy, I will up the difficulty. If I were to be playing a melee character and got into the situations I had done already, I probably would've died a lot more, the AI brings some serious firepower in some areas. I can see it possibly suffering at the higher levels but by the time I reach them I am hoping modders have already started putting their works out lol. But let's be honest, no one forced you to abuse Skyrims crafting mechanics to become a god and no one is going to force you to min-max in FO4, but the cool thing about is that it's an option, freedom is what these games are about.

 On another note, I am not sure what some people are talking about when they say the combat sucks, it's not great but it's a lot better than FO3 and NV, I am not sure what people expected tbh when they knew it's the same engine. The gunplay feels quite a bit improved ( well once I turned off mouse acceleration and fixed the Y and X sensitivities ), but the pacing and atmosphere is also more intense, lasers and bullets hitting things around you sounds good, the weapons really feel like they have more oomph most of the time, the AI is fairly quick and sharp in combat, maybe that's just my own opinion though but I am definitely having fun.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 11, 2015, 01:39:21 am
Lots of bugs in the combat, especially reload-wise.

But meh, this game makes me want to play Witcher 3 again.

Feels a lot like Dragon Age: Inquisition in the sense that it's moved towards the casual, console audience -- still a pretty good game, but very, uh, streamlined. The more I play the more I hate the dialogue system. Wtf does "wrong foot" dialogue option even mean? What is my character going to say? Is he going to be aggressive? Passive? Apologetic? What? No indication...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2015, 01:41:45 am
Feels like playing Doom 3, especially in underground areas where they seem to spawn in bigger numbers over time. Like GTA police.

So r u saying that u can't really clear out dungeons anymore? Gey
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 11, 2015, 01:58:38 am
On another note, I am not sure what some people are talking about when they say the combat sucks, it's not great but it's a lot better than FO3 and NV, I am not sure what people expected tbh when they knew it's the same engine. The gunplay feels quite a bit improved ( well once I turned off mouse acceleration and fixed the Y and X sensitivities ), but the pacing and atmosphere is also more intense, lasers and bullets hitting things around you sounds good, the weapons really feel like they have more oomph most of the time, the AI is fairly quick and sharp in combat, maybe that's just my own opinion though but I am definitely having fun.

Well, they mentioned they'll take advice about gunplay from id software who are known for great gunplay feeling. Because of that I expected more. Didn't know it is same engine because game (to me) looked better in pre-release shots and videos. They also say its brand new engine every time...

It is better than FO3 and NV, in a sense Skyrim's combat is better than Oblivion and Morrowind. Better but still not good enough. Would rather see them drop VATS completely and go with stats based action gunplay like in Deus Ex, Vampire Bloodlines or Stalker. I know that is an option but game is designed around VATS and people will use it most of the time.

Bullet sound effects and VFX are very good, I agree with that. But only when they are flying around your head, not when you're hitting enemies.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 11, 2015, 02:29:57 am
The Witcher 3 is miles ahead of anything Bethesda has ever done when it comes to designing an RPG game. Seriously, Bethesda games are so clunky and plastic in comparison.

As for Fallout, the setting is once again successful at charming me despite glaring flaws and I am having fun. I gotta say, I picked my usual dumb Fallout strategy of just picking a direction and exploring right of the bat, and I have been getting my shit pushed in by Super Mutants and even Bloatflies at very hard difficulty. They don't even have the skull that indicates that they are way higher level. I really love this difficult exploring with deadly enemies, though I am a bit disappointed that it is once again not rewarded with better loot or higher experience if you explore higher level locations or beat higher level enemies early. Though perhaps I am not actually in a higher level area and I am just bad.

Really pissed off with the conversation system though, to the point that I save before each conversation in case I grossly misinterpret the vague descriptions. I can't play the way I want to play, because I have no idea what option says what. How hard is it just to write the different options and let me pick from that, I'm just baffled by the decision that was made in that regard.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 11, 2015, 02:48:03 am
Though perhaps I am not actually in a higher level area and I am just bad.

According to a loading screen, the more you go south, the more dangerous the enemies will be. Try to walk around the glowing see (lower left corner of the map).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 11, 2015, 03:22:59 am
Yeah my main gripe is the conversation system, I have to quick save (F5) in every conversation if I am unsure about what the conversation option will actually say.

EDIT: Ok so I just came across a big radiated crater full of Ghouls, including 2 Legendary Ghouls, I got their attention and they all began running up the crater and around a building, I met them with a barrage of molotov cocktails and laser rifle fire, killing them. I looted the Legendary Ghouls and the junk from the others, when I noticed another red blip on my radar. I went to check it out and I discovered this OP mother fucker, it was called a Putrid Glowing One (with a skull next to his name ) I thought I would try to take him on, but he is fucking nails. He takes minimal damage from even my best weapons ( seems to also be immune to Nuka Grenades lol ) and he regenerates health, so I couldn't even bring it down fast enough at range to keep up with his health regen, due to his moving around etc. To top it all off he kills me in 2 hits max lol. He's definitely something to come back and fight at a higher level, but now this fucker is roaming the streets of a place I need to get through.

Look at him, he dived at me and hit me once, taking away nearly all my health, then he pick me up in the air and fucking bit a hole in my chest llol.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 11, 2015, 07:04:34 am
Really pissed off with the conversation system though, to the point that I save before each conversation in case I grossly misinterpret the vague descriptions. I can't play the way I want to play, because I have no idea what option says what. How hard is it just to write the different options and let me pick from that, I'm just baffled by the decision that was made in that regard.

"That is a very nice house. Dont you agree traveler?"
1. Yes 2.No 3.Mybe
*picks no*
"No, I will now proceed to shoot you in the face"
*Screams internally*
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AwesomeHail on November 11, 2015, 07:45:14 am
Enjoying the game loads so far but the wasteland is merciless, after just 2 hours it broke my graphics card :(

Was playing it with the latest nvidia drivers, ran it on optimum settings but that still didn't save me.

aw man :[
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 11, 2015, 08:33:18 am
wew doggy, the combat, movement all that stuff. love it, feels so fluid especially compared to previous titles. definitely see influences of Project Nevada . Interesting how early you can get your hands on power armor tho, guess they want you to explore the customization early on. Surprised about the settlement building, im spending equal time building my settlement and fort as much as i am exploring and killing.

Gotta say tho, i am completely fucking lost, i guess i forgotten how the a new bethesda game feels, especially after all those playthroughs of NV and 3. still enjoying it however.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2015, 08:42:42 am
Is there a way to convert all the junk you have in inventory to crafting mats?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 11, 2015, 10:11:42 am
Happens automatically when your settlement runs out of stuff, it grabs it directly off your junk list. When I build some electrical thing, I ran out of ceramic and it displayed a message that some toilet seat disappeared out of my inventory. :lol:
There is a scavenger workbench to build but I can't use it. Guess it's assignable to NPCs.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 11, 2015, 10:24:29 am
So had a little play - set it to hardest from start. managed to beat deathclaw after a few goes when I realised I could
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But now I go wandering through wasteland on one of my starting quests and enemies show up like yao which 1 shots me. ok I will just have to sneak past those. but then this fucking scorpion pops out of the ground below me and 1 shots me?! how am supposed to not die to that ;/

typical beth "difficulty" I don't want to spam quicksave, I'd rather a proper challenge ;(
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 11, 2015, 10:28:01 am
not hard enough - complains
too hard - complains

:P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Oberyn on November 11, 2015, 10:59:57 am
Don't get how people go exploring the map at lvl 1 and are surprised at being squishy useless bait that dies in one hit. Much better than the "leveled" encounters that are always conveniently tailored ala Skyrim.
As is typical with Bestheda games I'm not going to touch this thing until a few months in when it's actually a finished game and good mods start popping up for it, but have looked at a couple let's plays. And it does seem seriously "streamlined", aka simplified or just straight up removed entire sections of the game. It's getting more and more like an FPS and less like an RPG, which some people must like. 
By the way you all remember the controversy on paying mods with Skyrim, right? Guessing this debate will be back soon. They will be a lot more sneaky about it if they learned anything from their previous try.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vovka on November 11, 2015, 11:16:57 am
 someone managed to build something worthwhile? and what about the windows seems In y 2277 mankind has forgotten how to make them ??
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Oberyn on November 11, 2015, 11:24:01 am
Er, windows are points of weakness or something, yeah. That's why. You don't want a ghoul to just climb in and rape you in the middle of the night. I'm sure it's nothing to do with the engine.
It seems like one of the big innovations is the base building system. A fort defense minigame within the game sounds fun, but is it engaging at all or just a random distraction?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 11:56:53 am
not hard enough - complains
too hard - complains

So far the entire concept of difficulty is based on enemies magically appearing behind you. You rarely have time to see your encounters from a distance and prepare. Are you sure that is what a Fallout game is supposed to be? It is like their intention was to make a dumb zombie shooter or horror game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 11, 2015, 11:58:48 am
not hard enough - complains
too hard - complains

:P

Getting oneshot by something unavoidable is not good difficulty.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 11, 2015, 12:10:02 pm
Getting oneshot by something unavoidable is not good difficulty.

Unless a deathclaws pops up behind you (or alternatively 12 ennemies with rifles), you may find it too easy when wearing power armor and a minigun :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 12:19:27 pm
... power armor and a minigun :P

The perpetually beeping power armor and low ammo for everything disapprove.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2015, 12:22:52 pm
There is a scavenger workbench to build but I can't use it. Guess it's assignable to NPCs.

I built that, you need to assign it to NPC: in workshop mode you walk to the NPC, press E or whatever is the key for Command, you'll see it, and then you walk back to the station and press E again I think. Kind of confusing. I think scavenger workbench produces scavenged material out of nothing tho, it's not used for converting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 11, 2015, 02:01:33 pm
Getting oneshot by something unavoidable is not good difficulty.

Happens in many games, either the enemies level with you and it's really easy or the enemy levels are location based.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 11, 2015, 02:46:35 pm
I'm liking it so far after only a few hours, was quite surprised though that the insects and animals come out the ground, walls, vents and such like all the time. At first it kind of annoyed me because i always got hit at random and suddenly i'm surrounded by 5 enemies in a small space but when i think about it, it's not that bad. It's never been a thing before in Bethesda games so im not used to it but it makes sense! A scorpion would burrow under the dirt and wait for prey, it would have too because of the harsh world they are in and also they do that shit anyway but so would the other creatures too. It makes you always on guard in caves and sewer tunnels always expecting to be ambushed is a new way of playing a fallout game to me, feels sort of like metro 2033 in a sense and to me it does make the world far more dangerous and life threatening than the previous games.

But it also makes me think that the Perception attribute is kind of useless for spotting enemies on the radar? If most of them are hidden in the ground? I have medium perception i think it's 5 or 6 and i don't see red blips that much then suddenly i'm swarmed by 7 ghouls, my dog doesn't even bark or anything it just happens spontaneously so i'm not sure if when i get 10 perception i can sense enemies hiding or there is a perk for that.

Bethesda games aren't always 100% at release, never are but they always iron the last creases out and have me spending countless of my free time playing them. At the moment i can't see myself depending on mods at all. They will just be icing on the top.

Don't get me wrong though this game does have it's bad sides that make me sad, not disappointed just sad. It's manly to do with the changes they went with. Oh well.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 11, 2015, 03:08:30 pm
Blips only appear when enemies are'caution' or 'danger' which is a pain in the arse.

Walked down the western side of the map at lvl 1, loads of little bases and some big areas if you're looking for a place to start I would say go there, helped me out a lot.

Decided to run through Boston - big mistake, gang warfare lots of little power struggles, would not advise it unless you're in power armour. Only used the power armour once and that was at the start to kill the deathclaw, havent bothered with it since and its made the game so much more harder
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 11, 2015, 03:31:03 pm
Decided to run through Boston - big mistake, gang warfare lots of little power struggles, would not advise it unless you're in power armour. Only used the power armour once and that was at the start to kill the deathclaw, havent bothered with it since and its made the game so much more harder

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How dare you. Power armor are manly as hell. <3
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 11, 2015, 03:48:57 pm
This game would be so much better if humans were unique and few in Wasteland, and had actual AI so they can travel just like my character. Not spawning clones out of thin air and that shit. Imagine how much better it would feel if every outpost had story behind it, unique bandits, if there was a way for you to observe their behavior, plan an attack or speak with them, not just barge in like Rambo and pray for the best. Problem with this game, while it is good game, leaves a lot to be desired.

Instead of working on important bits (doing something about randomly generated content and side missions), they choose an easy path. Building settlements, crafting, all that shit that doesn't really belong to Fallout game. I'm not here to survive the night, I'm a post apocalyptic wanderer. No intention to build bases or organize militias.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 11, 2015, 03:54:50 pm
It's nice to see they've finally implemented Powered Armor with lore-accurate proportions and properties (except for the power source).

In general I have a lot of good to say about the game. It's better than I'd feared, even if the dialogue system is bad and the interface often pretty annoying, and even if it is very light on the RPG side, as expected; hoping for some meaningful choices as I get more into the story. I'm only seven hours in but so far good atmosphere, environments, characters and combat. Let's see how it looks after 3 expansions, 10 patches and hundreds of hours of gameplay.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 11, 2015, 04:03:08 pm
Is there a way to convert all the junk you have in inventory to crafting mats?
Happens automatically when your settlement runs out of stuff, it grabs it directly off your junk list. When I build some electrical thing, I ran out of ceramic and it displayed a message that some toilet seat disappeared out of my inventory. :lol:
There is a scavenger workbench to build but I can't use it. Guess it's assignable to NPCs.

The problem with letting the workshop take materials straight out of an item is that it destroys the other unused materials in that item according to what I have read, destroying possibly valuable materials. The only way I have figured out to do it otherwise is by dropping all of your junk in the settlement and in workshop mode scrap it all individually, R key to scrap E to confirm, can take a while but you get all the materials into the settlement and you free up some weight. Looking forward to a mod to remedy this if it does indeed scrap the other materials. The scavenger bench is an NPC station and it's not usable for the player.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 11, 2015, 04:11:23 pm
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 11, 2015, 04:26:36 pm
The problem with letting the workshop take materials straight out of an item is that it destroys the other unused materials in that item according to what I have read, destroying possibly valuable materials. The only way I have figured out to do it otherwise is by dropping all of your junk in the settlement and in workshop mode scrap it all individually, R key to scrap E to confirm, can take a while but you get all the materials into the settlement and you free up some weight. Looking forward to a mod to remedy this if it does indeed scrap the other materials. The scavenger bench is an NPC station and it's not usable for the player.
Ahh, didn't know that!

There is a mod at the Nexus which seems to rebind the mouse keys: left click for stashing and right click for scraping.
Gonna try it in few minutes. Certainly gonna be less pain than 'R' and 'E' all the time.

Edit:
Mentioned mod... http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/64/?
...haven't tried yet.

Edit2:
This reShade looks nice...
http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/screenshot/32414/
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2015, 04:43:44 pm
It's nice to see they've finally implemented Powered Armor with lore-accurate proportions and properties (except for the power source).


Power source feature seems pretty stupid though. Rather wait for a mod to fix that. If I've read it right. If one would run out of power you'll have to abandon your armor where your power ran out and leave it? So if those power source/batteries are scarce, it sucks.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 11, 2015, 04:44:21 pm
I can be a baseball player. Or a king. Or a space man.

Or a baseball playing king in space!..with a mustache.


Power source feature seems pretty stupid though. Rather wait for a mod to fix that. If I've read it right. If one would run out of power you'll have to abandon your armor where your power ran out and leave it? So if those power source/batteries are scarce, it sucks.

I think if you run out of power, you can still use the armor but you move slower than normal and have low action points or something like that, might be another thing you lose but you can still use it for armor and carry weight.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 11, 2015, 04:51:47 pm
Power source feature seems pretty stupid though. Rather wait for a mod to fix that. If I've read it right. If one would run out of power you'll have to abandon your armor where your power ran out and leave it? So if those power source/batteries are scarce, it sucks.
I've already spent my first power source, though I've recently found another. You go through them pretty fast. Didn't they hint that there was some perks for Powered Armor before release, can only see the Pain Train one where you can trample enemies, with 10STR. Maybe you can upgrade the power source. The no falling damage is pretty fun, though, like the water walking enchantment abuse in Skyrim.

edit: there's an intelligence perk that makes fusion cores last longer, and you can buy them in shops, and not running while in the armor also makes it last longer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 11, 2015, 04:59:53 pm
It seems like one of the big innovations is the base building system. A fort defense minigame within the game sounds fun, but is it engaging at all or just a random distraction?

Very very engaging
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 11, 2015, 05:07:30 pm
Explored an abandoned wannabe fallout shelter and turned out to inhabit a Deathclaw R.I.P I'm stuck between him and the exit.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 11, 2015, 05:33:35 pm
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Why use the Power Armour anyway? Besides, I like that those Fusion Cores are rare. Still keeps using PA a special thing to do.
Running around all the time in PA is probably kinda game breaking...

Edit:
Oh my god :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2015, 05:48:51 pm
Edit:
Oh my god :lol:

rofl
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 11, 2015, 05:56:05 pm
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Why use the Power Armour anyway? Besides, I like that those Fusion Cores are rare. Still keeps using PA a special thing to do.
Running around all the time in PA is probably kinda game breaking...



Cuz cool people like The Enclave and the badasses there use power armors and you don't wanna be some kiting fgt but a badass warrior with plasma weapons


Oh my god :lol:

10/10 Bethesda
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Umbra on November 11, 2015, 06:01:23 pm
Pirating it. All hail Croatias lax internet laws
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 11, 2015, 06:22:28 pm
Very very engaging

Spent more time building than playing/exploring yesterday.Never Use the "Roof" tile. Always use "Floor" for roofs. Works better overall. Also: Prefabs are POS.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Oberyn on November 11, 2015, 06:27:41 pm
Is there a point to all the defensive measures? Does your base actually get attacked by sizeable threats, or is it mostly aesthetics to have a well fortified base?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 11, 2015, 06:55:18 pm
to anybody that doesn't know if you go to your old house after the war and in your sons room there is the special book under the cabinet, you can pick a special trait for free if you activate it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 07:53:52 pm
So I enter this place called Mayoral Shelter. The place is deserted. There is obviously no life or occupancy going on in there. All signs hint that. Inside are some ceiling turrets. Understandable. Long-lasting defense measures etc. They fire cryo cells, which I stand absolutely no chance against. So I cower behind walls while my robot companion takes care of them. I delve deeper. Still no signs of occupancy.

I find a Fat Man in a very narrow cavern passage that is tied to the shelter. I snatch it, turn back and guess what? Fucking deathclaw appears behind me. Obviously Bethesda never got sick of their own retarded joke while making this game.

I reset my frustration and load a save which was just before entering that passage. I decide that I should go back, as all manners of exploration end up getting you punished. Following my trail carefully, I see the same shit happening once again. The entire place on my way back is now full of synths. For those who haven't yet heard of them (this is not really a spoiler), they are basically tough androids all equipped with cryo guns. I stomach even that, thinking to myself: "Probably they didn't do this with the upper entrance level. Maybe I can make a quick dash and head out from there." Boy was I fucking wrong.

Of course the entrance level is full of synths now as well. In between several deaths and reloads, I finally make it out and immediately fast travel to the sanctuary.

In the end, I shut this retarded game down and just feel glad I didn't follow the hype and spend so much money for buying it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 11, 2015, 08:05:01 pm
They've gone more Farcry than Fallout as I keep playing it. It's still fun but not at all what I was expecting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Laufknoten on November 11, 2015, 08:05:28 pm
I love it. Doing the whole sneak/high crit thing I've always done in every Fallout and it's just perfect. It's still very much like Fallout 3/New Vegas but it's just better in almost every single aspect, which is exactly how I want a sequel to be.

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to anybody that doesn't know if you go to your old house after the war and in your sons room there is the special book under the cabinet, you can pick a special trait for free if you activate it.
There's also a cellar at the back of one of the houses in the protagonist hometown where you can find gold bars and some other useful stuff. Haven't actually found out what you can do with gold but I guess it's worth having it...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 11, 2015, 08:06:58 pm
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That sure sound.. terrible. I can somewhat see what they were trying to do, but i cant really see the reason why they would try to do it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 08:08:30 pm
That sure sound.. terrible. I can somewhat see what they were trying to do, but i cant really see the reason why they would try to do it.

As I said over and over again, I'd be totally fine with it if this "appearing out of thin air" thing was something that occasionally happened for dramatic effect. But no, they were somehow stupid enough to think it was cool to do it all the damn time.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 11, 2015, 08:12:35 pm
As I said over and over again, I'd be totally fine with it if this "appearing out of thin air" thing was something that occasionally happened for dramatic effect. But no, they were somehow stupid enough to think it was cool to do it all the damn time.

Its just like the chatwheel thing, it seems like they forced in some changes just to make it sort of different to the previous games, overlooking whether its a good change or not.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 11, 2015, 09:08:48 pm
So I enter this place called Mayoral Shelter. The place is deserted. There is obviously no life or occupancy going on in there. All signs hint that. Inside are some ceiling turrets. Understandable. Long-lasting defense measures etc. They fire cryo cells, which I stand absolutely no chance against. So I cower behind walls while my robot companion takes care of them. I delve deeper. Still no signs of occupancy.

I find a Fat Man in a very narrow cavern passage that is tied to the shelter. I snatch it, turn back and guess what? Fucking deathclaw appears behind me. Obviously Bethesda never got sick of their own retarded joke while making this game.

I reset my frustration and load a save which was just before entering that passage. I decide that I should go back, as all manners of exploration end up getting you punished. Following my trail carefully, I see the same shit happening once again. The entire place on my way back is now full of synths. For those who haven't yet heard of them (this is not really a spoiler), they are basically tough androids all equipped with cryo guns. I stomach even that, thinking to myself: "Probably they didn't do this with the upper entrance level. Maybe I can make a quick dash and head out from there." Boy was I fucking wrong.

Of course the entrance level is full of synths now as well. In between several deaths and reloads, I finally make it out and immediately fast travel to the sanctuary.

In the end, I shut this retarded game down and just feel glad I didn't follow the hype and spend so much money for buying it.

mad cuz bad, l2shoot fgt

to anybody that doesn't know if you go to your old house after the war and in your sons room there is the special book under the cabinet, you can pick a special trait for free if you activate it.

 good to know, thanks

Is there a point to all the defensive measures? Does your base actually get attacked by sizeable threats, or is it mostly aesthetics to have a well fortified base?

yes, everything from radscorps to raiders to supermutants will attack in force, you can even set up trade routes/caravans between multiple settlements you built.

They've gone more Farcry than Fallout as I keep playing it. It's still fun but not at all what I was expecting.

This, seems like the 2 things youll be doing in this game, killing and building. the days of the ol' fallout RPG are gone. they purposely left the wasteland barren and empty, encouraging you to populate it with your own settlements
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 11, 2015, 09:12:40 pm
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Why use the Power Armour anyway? Besides, I like that those Fusion Cores are rare. Still keeps using PA a special thing to do.
Running around all the time in PA is probably kinda game breaking...



I have been using that preset myself, it does look a lot better most of the time although sometimes it can look very "red".
I don't use the power armour at all, after I first used the T45 power armour, I took all the armour pieces off of it and just left it near Sanctuary and sold all the armour pieces. I don't really intend on ever using it right now, Fusion Cores are rare to find and expensive from Traders so I will probably wait until I can get a better suit and even then only use it for real tough locations, if at all.

I got this rifle from a Legendary Super Mutant and upgraded it, the large magazine gives it 10 shots before having to reload ( and even though it states inferior reload speed, its not really that slow at all ), I chose a reflex sight so it's easy to use at closer ranges and in manic firefights, it hits hard and because of its "Unique" bonuses it absolutely reks things in VATS. Next I am going to upgrade my Laser Rifle ( the Righteous Authority from Danse ) now I have the Science perk.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 11, 2015, 09:29:50 pm
when i finish it ima post a pic of my dog penis red rocket gas station fort, havent even started building sanctuary for the survivors yet, gotta get my personal palace in order first.

also post pics of your settlements
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 11, 2015, 09:51:19 pm
Fallout 4 is more demanding on my system than even The Witcher 3, at least on higher settings (I have a friend who plays F4 on medium but who wasn't able to play Witcher). I ran a stable 60fps on ultra settings (auto detected by the game, I only set AA to FXAA) right until I came to inner-city Boston (or the central urban area east of Diamond City). Here it jumps at numbers between 40 and 60fps, especially during rainy nights, making microstutter that not even Novigrad would. Only way to avoid these instances is to go all the way down to medium settings, it seems, which is unfortunate as the problem is only in certain specific areas. Or hope it gets optimized at some point.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 11, 2015, 09:56:48 pm
So I enter this place called Mayoral Shelter. The place is deserted. There is obviously no life or occupancy going on in there. All signs hint that. Inside are some ceiling turrets. Understandable. Long-lasting defense measures etc. They fire cryo cells, which I stand absolutely no chance against. So I cower behind walls while my robot companion takes care of them. I delve deeper. Still no signs of occupancy.

I find a Fat Man in a very narrow cavern passage that is tied to the shelter. I snatch it, turn back and guess what? Fucking deathclaw appears behind me. Obviously Bethesda never got sick of their own retarded joke while making this game.

I reset my frustration and load a save which was just before entering that passage. I decide that I should go back, as all manners of exploration end up getting you punished. Following my trail carefully, I see the same shit happening once again. The entire place on my way back is now full of synths. For those who haven't yet heard of them (this is not really a spoiler), they are basically tough androids all equipped with cryo guns. I stomach even that, thinking to myself: "Probably they didn't do this with the upper entrance level. Maybe I can make a quick dash and head out from there." Boy was I fucking wrong.

Of course the entrance level is full of synths now as well. In between several deaths and reloads, I finally make it out and immediately fast travel to the sanctuary.

In the end, I shut this retarded game down and just feel glad I didn't follow the hype and spend so much money for buying it.

Been to the same place.

It's a trigger event, those ';synths' are after the fusion core that is in or next to the room near the passage with the deathclaw. The entire point of them appearing is to kill you in order to gain 'pre-war tech' to me it made perfect sense, wasn't that hard to escape either. Lured the synths and the dethclaw together then simply tidied up, the 'dramatic effect' you're looking for is the fact the synths are there to get the core to help them in someway (not sure yet, just been exploring), therefore they are a scavenging party. Just a simple event that you trigger, you can explore the entire area (minus the fusion core room) without setting off the event.

In other news any of you guys killed this thing yet (possible spoiler, don't think it is as it's just a big fuck), this is the only time ive gone back to get my power armour cos this guy is a bastard.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 11, 2015, 10:17:23 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 11, 2015, 10:22:25 pm
Fallout 4 is more demanding on my system than even The Witcher 3, at least on higher settings (I have a friend who plays F4 on medium but who wasn't able to play Witcher). I ran a stable 60fps on ultra settings (auto detected by the game, I only set AA to FXAA) right until I came to inner-city Boston (or the central urban area east of Diamond City). Here it jumps at numbers between 40 and 60fps, especially during rainy nights, making microstutter that not even Novigrad would. Only way to avoid these instances is to go all the way down to medium settings, it seems, which is unfortunate as the problem is only in certain specific areas. Or hope it gets optimized at some point.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3sdyu7/the_old_ini_tweaks_still_work/
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 11, 2015, 10:28:54 pm
Angantyr: Take a look at this post (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551069501&tscn=1447077828) and try the unlock framerate thingy. Although you may be running at 60 fps right off the bat, the game obviously has some issues with that. It actually offered a lot of improvement for me.

Cmyro: Still doesn't make it sound any better for me. The way it is, this game feels a lot more like Resident Evil than Fallout.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 11, 2015, 11:39:08 pm
Edit:
Oh my god :lol:

This shit again.

Yep. Can't recommend trying to lockpick at 700ish FPS (lol).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 11, 2015, 11:55:56 pm
This line from one of the reddit users removed much of the microstutter I had even on stable 60fps: 'iFPSClamp=60' (put under general in the Fallout.ini ).

I couldn't find a solution for the occasional frame drop in heavy urban areas, though. Will just have to decrease the graphics a bit for now.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 12, 2015, 01:29:35 am
It's funny I have absolutely no FPS issues in the middle of the city despite having absolutely everything set to Ultra. The only areas where framerate dips below 60 are densely forested and grassy. And it's pretty bad when it does, down to 40 usually.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 12, 2015, 03:20:08 am
I just feel claustrophobic and aimless in this game. The sense of wanting to explore and being able to from previous Fallouts is gone. Somehow feels like a railroad game even if the map is technically open.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 12, 2015, 03:34:57 am
I just feel claustrophobic and aimless in this game. The sense of wanting to explore and being able to from previous Fallouts is gone. Somehow feels like a railroad game even if the map is technically open.

wut? how?

i can understand feeling railroaded in NV, but in this they really do open the map up for you.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 12, 2015, 04:45:03 am
Played for around 12 hours straight today  :shock:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 12, 2015, 05:12:57 am
wut? how?

i can understand feeling railroaded in NV, but in this they really do open the map up for you.
Yes, a lot of empty, pointless terrain where you can't do anything of consequence. And if you happen to meet an NPC then you get 1-2 word dialogue options because console players can't be expected to read actual sentences, and that NPC will offer you a fetch-and-or-kill sidequest at most.

So it's like there's this one path that you are nudge-nudge-wink-wink'd along, and if you deviate too much from it, you won't come across any meaningful content.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 12, 2015, 06:52:41 am
Just to go back on what I said before, but people have noticed that if an item is broken down for crafting, the unused materials do go into the workshop storage, just that it might take some time to appear. So unless you need the materials reliably instantly, no need to scrap everything. Thank fuck for that.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AwesomeHail on November 12, 2015, 07:35:42 am
It's funny I have absolutely no FPS issues in the middle of the city despite having absolutely everything set to Ultra. The only areas where framerate dips below 60 are densely forested and grassy. And it's pretty bad when it does, down to 40 usually.

christ I want your PC

with my laptop (wich I mainly use, sometimes my brother's PC) I have 100 fps at first, and after 8 minutes of playing (on lowest graphics) i have constant 40-10 fps. I got my laptop checked and they said it was a motherboard issue D:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 12, 2015, 07:49:58 am
The one thing that I noticed is that the perk/skillsystem turns the game a lot more linear and like Flockula said puts some heavy breaks on your sense of adventure. Since the game has no skillpoints, your strenght and capabilities are entirely reliant on your perks. But almost all perks are levelbased after you pick the first one. So your options are not at all probably so different from what everybody else picked and you dont get the chance to get op somewhere in the middle of the game. You progress is linear and with a very even pace. Which for me murders the replay value of it. Its a fun game, I will finish it, but I just dont see myself doing all that progression a second time. Unlike TES and last FOs. Replayed those like 6 times, didnt even notice the progression that much.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vovka on November 12, 2015, 08:11:58 am
skin/armor/weapon mode for skyrim gg
god bless torrents
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 12, 2015, 09:10:08 am
christ I want your PC

with my laptop (wich I mainly use, sometimes my brother's PC) I have 100 fps at first, and after 8 minutes of playing (on lowest graphics) i have constant 40-10 fps. I got my laptop checked and they said it was a motherboard issue D:

That sounds like your standard thermal throttling. What you get for gaming on a taplol.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Oberyn on November 12, 2015, 09:21:46 am
Fallout 4: The Skyrimming
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 12, 2015, 09:54:47 am
So.....does Fallout 4 have prostitutes?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 12, 2015, 10:14:16 am
Fallout 4: The Skyrimming
Can't agree with that at all. More like Fallcry 4.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 12, 2015, 01:44:36 pm
im oddly dissapointed that my name is not on the list of Codsworth names, of which mine being uncommon is still a typical english name, yet they have Cha, fucking Cha.  Ive never heard of anyone named Cha in my life, or fucking Dag for that matter, and who still names their child Debbie, christ sake.  I know it might be a very minuscule thing to be upset over with the plethora of other issues, but i kind of was looking forward to that.  Oh and while im at it, why the hell couldnt we name the damn baby, fucking Shawn, i dont want my fallout child to be named Shawn.

Name List:
http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 12, 2015, 02:07:09 pm
A concept that would've worked well in games like Age of Decadence or F2, too bad F4 is a different type of fish:

http://www.pcgamer.com/playing-fallout-4-with-charisma-luck-and-nothing-else/?ns_campaign=article-feed&amp;ns_mchannel=ref&amp;ns_source=steam&amp;ns_linkname=0&amp;ns_fee=0
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 12, 2015, 02:23:33 pm
A concept that would've worked well in games like Age of Decadence or F2, too bad F4 is a different type of fish:

http://www.pcgamer.com/playing-fallout-4-with-charisma-luck-and-nothing-else/?ns_campaign=article-feed&amp;ns_mchannel=ref&amp;ns_source=steam&amp;ns_linkname=0&amp;ns_fee=0

I really want to make a character like that in FO2 now, only thing is that unfortunately when you start racking up a crowd in that game, companions keep taking eachother out. Will still try it out though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 12, 2015, 02:51:42 pm
Lots of possibilities with that build in F2. Among other things you can abuse that young farm girl (charisma 8), marry her in the shotgun wedding, then pimp her out to the local gecko trappers and force her to work as a fluffer on the porn set in New Reno (before you sell her into slavery). And knulla Bishop's daughter and impregnate his wife (charisma 6 and no condom in inventory).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 12, 2015, 03:00:03 pm
Lots of possibilities with that build in F2. Among other things you can abuse that young farm girl (charisma 8), marry her in the shotgun wedding, then pimp her out to the local gecko trappers and force her to work as a fluffer on the porn set in New Reno (before you sell her into slavery). And knulla Bishop's daughter and impregnate his wife (charisma 6 and no condom in inventory).

Sick, i cant wait to abuse women! Thinking about it, ive never taken the speech approach to any rpg game really.

Starting with Fo1 though, never got that far in it. Still have my saves from my cro-magnon low int melee brute character, but i can never pick up on a character lost months ago. I wish new games would give the same low int dialogues as fo1&2, how did that dissapear, true rpg should let me roleplay someone with the intelligence of a toddler.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 12, 2015, 03:30:43 pm
I have the other way around, always have high speech especially in FO1&2 and FNV, never got far with my low int guy though the dialogue was great. I have that waiting for my next run. But seriously speech is the most used skill in FO2, and Luck probably the most interesting ability.
Also, consider trying out Age of Decadence, it's designed so you can play through it only with civic skills and it has some great writing and a pretty interesting post-apocalyptic fallen Roman Empire setting. And it's only 1gb.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 12, 2015, 05:35:55 pm
im oddly dissapointed that my name is not on the list of Codsworth names, of which mine being uncommon is still a typical english name, yet they have Cha, fucking Cha.  Ive never heard of anyone named Cha in my life, or fucking Dag for that matter, and who still names their child Debbie, christ sake.  I know it might be a very minuscule thing to be upset over with the plethora of other issues, but i kind of was looking forward to that.  Oh and while im at it, why the hell couldnt we name the damn baby, fucking Shawn, i dont want my fallout child to be named Shawn.

Name List:
http://hastebin.com/raw/eziriberin

Some of the names that stood out to me

Bacon
Badass
Death
Fuck
Fuck face
Sex
Sexy

Wish they had the name of my OC, Rusty, tho
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 12, 2015, 08:26:14 pm
My badass CoD dog(meat)...

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Golem on November 12, 2015, 10:36:18 pm
Aye aye, Captn'!
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 12, 2015, 11:25:12 pm
You have plenty of fusion cores to run around in powered armor as much as you want, especially if you go for the Nuclear Physicist perk, just found five on a Brotherhood mission, had two in spare already and caps for several more. A friend on mine have 25+ currently in his inventory, the limitation being kind of meaningless after a certain point. I have made a BoS character besides my original sneak guy, full strength and intelligence, focus on pistols and melee weapons.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Golem on November 12, 2015, 11:27:49 pm
Made a gif out of it  :D
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 12, 2015, 11:33:34 pm
favorite songs anyone?

Uranium Fever and The Wanderer
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 12, 2015, 11:43:53 pm
Bobby Rocktrasher and the Ghouls.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 13, 2015, 12:02:43 am
favorite songs anyone?

Uranium Fever and The Wanderer

Marty Robbins - Big Iron

FeelsBadMan
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 13, 2015, 12:17:46 am
You have plenty of fusion cores to run around in powered armor as much as you want, especially if you go for the Nuclear Physicist perk, just found five on a Brotherhood mission, had two in spare already and caps for several more. A friend on mine have 25+ currently in his inventory, the limitation being kind of meaningless after a certain point. I have made a BoS character besides my original sneak guy, full strength and intelligence, focus on pistols and melee weapons.

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Cool. Still might get a mod to make them last forever if there comes out one. Would prefer no fusion cores like past Fallout games when wearing power armor.

favorite songs anyone?

Uranium Fever and The Wanderer

So it basically recycled and used most songs from Fallout 3? Lel Bethesda
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 13, 2015, 12:22:36 am
It's funny I have absolutely no FPS issues in the middle of the city despite having absolutely everything set to Ultra. The only areas where framerate dips below 60 are densely forested and grassy. And it's pretty bad when it does, down to 40 usually.
Strange. Where on the map approximately? Until now I've only experienced those jumps in that one area of the city.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 13, 2015, 01:03:44 am
What character did you roleplay as? I roleplayed as a concerned father.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 13, 2015, 01:17:59 am
What character did you roleplay as? I roleplayed as a concerned father.

sarcastic guy who cares for everyone deep down
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 01:25:37 am
Now that I finally started finding an abundant number of cores (with companions literally carrying me this far) and am able to walk around in power armor without worries, it is a little bit fun smashing super mutants with my super sledge. Am I happy now? Nope, not at all.

The limited armor choices you can get are mostly no use against 80% of all enemies. Seriously, only low-tier raiders are manageable and high-tier ones not really. Pretty much everything else brutally overpowers you. You struggle painfully, rely extensively on companions and arrive at such a point that you no longer wish to explore, but just follow the trail set for you. Simply put, you are left to suffer until you can eventually afford power armor all the time.

The settlement and crafting things? I am not against trying new things, but those really don't belong to a Fallout game.

Storyline is a little cheesy and meh, but I can live with that.

All in all, this game got me way too tired by the time I started having just a bit of fun. Throughout my time with it, the game has been telling me "power armor or die over and over again" and I am already burnt out when that becomes an option.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 13, 2015, 01:26:59 am
Now that I finally started finding an abundant number of cores (with companions literally carrying me this far) and am able to walk around in power armor without worries, it is a little bit fun smashing super mutants with my super sledge. Am I happy now? Nope, not at all.

The limited armor choices you can get are mostly no use against 80% of all enemies. Seriously, only low-tier raiders are manageable and high-tier ones not really. Pretty much everything else brutally overpowers you. You struggle painfully, rely extensively on companions and arrive at such a point that you no longer wish to explore, but just follow the trail set for you. Simply put, you are left to suffer until you can eventually afford power armor all the time.

The settlement and crafting things? I am not against trying new things, but those really don't belong to a Fallout game.

Storyline is a little cheesy and meh, but I can live with that.

All in all, this game got me way too tired by the time I started having just a bit of fun. Throughout my time with it, the game has been telling me "power armor or die over and over again" and I am already burnt out when that becomes an option.

Almost like you're describing tincan armor in CRPG
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 01:27:58 am
It is indeed exactly like that. And the most painful truth is that the game wants you to do that and reassures you that there is no other way.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vovka on November 13, 2015, 01:30:46 am
City of Ivans

 day 1  :P

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 13, 2015, 01:32:27 am
I'll admit I have yet to go to the diamond city or fought anything beyond the higher lvl ghouls and raiders but I haven't found a need for power armor. Not sure what you're fighting to need it but if I find out, I got plenty of energy cells and molotovs along with bottlecap mines and frag nades to handle them. Liking my special laser rifle from the BoS so far but its not much stronger than a laser pistol.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 01:37:12 am
Playing on very hard. Not sure if you do the same. If so, gratz to you. Then I simply suck at this, although I was quite fine with all previous Fallouts at this difficulty. After all, perception actually did something for you in those and there weren't mobs magically appearing out of thin air.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 13, 2015, 01:51:13 am
Playing on very hard. Not sure if you do the same. If so, gratz to you. Then I simply suck at this, although I was quite fine with all previous Fallouts at this difficulty. After all, perception actually did something for you in those and there weren't mobs magically appearing out of thin air.

Yeah I'm not sure what perception is doing to help you so far besides grab perks. It can help but when stuff digs underground then pops up behind your back.. meh.

And I can understand why now. I'm playing on normal. I always do the first time to get a feel for the game and have a fun run. I'll ramp up the difficulty another time.

I do like that things change though when you die. I died to an armed bottlecap mine then it reloaded so I was ready for it this time but it was no longer there the second time around. It does suck for loot though when an enemy has a better piece of armor or cool gun then you die and they no longer have it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 13, 2015, 02:03:02 am
What? I am playing on very hard as well and doing my usual stupid shit of just going in a direction and trying to clear areas. Still I don't find the game very difficult, and I am killing shit with a skull next to its name a lot. The game gives you an instant pause in which you can heal, you can save at your leisure, and there is auto-aim and the ability to pick your crits. I die a lot, but all that should be enough to trudge through areas well above your level. I haven't used Power Armor a single time, and it feels like cheating if I would. Frequent saving just means that you have to play a difficult engagement a few times until you figure out the right strategy, which I find quite fun and rewarding. Just make sure you upgrade your guns, upgrade your armor and invest in some of those "+20% damage perk with X weapon type" perks and it should be easy enough. If it really gets hard, use your explosives, they are easy to use and usually quite effective. If it weren't for ammo constraints, my upgraded Laser Rifle would beast through anything, and I have had that one for a while. The real difficulty comes from trying to use .38 ammo against moderately strong enemies, because your other ammo is too precious.

Though that one time I reloaded about 11 times to kill a Legendary Bloatfly was quite embarrassing. It would one-shot me with its projectile vomit, so doing frantic sidesteps while spastically hip-firing at a small bug and hoping for the best was the right strategy.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 02:15:15 am
Those random legendaries though. They are both fun and tedious encounters.

Just let me tell you guys one more tale of misadventure and conclude my daily F4 whining :D

I am following my doggie friend for that one quest (not spoilering). He walks me through an empty deserted road. It is daytime and there is absolutely nothing in sight. Well, as I expected, this doesn't last. A yao guai pops up to my right and starts pummeling me. I fight it guerilla-style but notice these occasional pew pews, realizing that there are now 3 super mutants around me. Is it over? It is not. Looking down, I see that my health meter is degrading rapidly. Something poisoned me! It is 2 of those blood flies poking me. Brace yourselves, because this is still not over. I notice a laser beam. Well, there is now a Mr. Gutsy attacking me as well. Just where the fuck were these guys all this time and how the fuck were they even getting along before I arrived?

Too unbelievable? Maybe I am just bulshitting you guys? Believe whatever you want. The game pulled exactly this shit at me. I reloaded like 6 times. Strangely, the game decided that Mr. Gutsy was overkill and stopped spawning it in the next reloads. I eventually survived only thanks to the fact that Dogmeat was now assisting me freely, not as a companion and I had Nick as my actual companion. Having help from two friendlies was my salvation. It was otherwise impossible for me to survive that or even run out of it due to my bad untimely save.

Yeah, that is it for now. Have a nice day :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 13, 2015, 03:01:41 am
Those random legendaries though. They are both fun and tedious encounters.

Just let me tell you guys one more tale of misadventure and conclude my daily F4 whining :D

I am following my doggie friend for that one quest (not spoilering). He walks me through an empty deserted road. It is daytime and there is absolutely nothing in sight. Well, as I expected, this doesn't last. A yao guai pops up to my right and starts pummeling me. I fight it guerilla-style but notice these occasional pew pews, realizing that there are now 3 super mutants around me. Is it over? It is not. Looking down, I see that my health meter is degrading rapidly. Something poisoned me! It is 2 of those blood flies poking me. Brace yourselves, because this is still not over. I notice a laser beam. Well, there is now a Mr. Gutsy attacking me as well. Just where the fuck were these guys all this time and how the fuck were they even getting along before I arrived?

Too unbelievable? Maybe I am just bulshitting you guys? Believe whatever you want. The game pulled exactly this shit at me. I reloaded like 6 times. Strangely, the game decided that Mr. Gutsy was overkill and stopped spawning it in the next reloads. I eventually survived only thanks to the fact that Dogmeat was now assisting me freely, not as a companion and I had Nick as my actual companion. Having help from two friendlies was my salvation. It was otherwise impossible for me to survive that or even run out of it due to my bad untimely save.

Yeah, that is it for now. Have a nice day :D

not use your mad skills to take them all down for massive bragging rights and epic story, instead you do it the pussy way and reload saves
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 13, 2015, 03:04:52 am
Those random legendaries though. They are both fun and tedious encounters.

Just let me tell you guys one more tale of misadventure and conclude my daily F4 whining :D

I am following my doggie friend for that one quest (not spoilering). He walks me through an empty deserted road. It is daytime and there is absolutely nothing in sight. Well, as I expected, this doesn't last. A yao guai pops up to my right and starts pummeling me. I fight it guerilla-style but notice these occasional pew pews, realizing that there are now 3 super mutants around me. Is it over? It is not. Looking down, I see that my health meter is degrading rapidly. Something poisoned me! It is 2 of those blood flies poking me. Brace yourselves, because this is still not over. I notice a laser beam. Well, there is now a Mr. Gutsy attacking me as well. Just where the fuck were these guys all this time and how the fuck were they even getting along before I arrived?

Too unbelievable? Maybe I am just bulshitting you guys? Believe whatever you want. The game pulled exactly this shit at me. I reloaded like 6 times. Strangely, the game decided that Mr. Gutsy was overkill and stopped spawning it in the next reloads. I eventually survived only thanks to the fact that Dogmeat was now assisting me freely, not as a companion and I had Nick as my actual companion. Having help from two friendlies was my salvation. It was otherwise impossible for me to survive that or even run out of it due to my bad untimely save.

Yeah, that is it for now. Have a nice day :D

inb4 second uninstall.  :mrgreen:

Also, survival is ez, finally my game got shipped, and I got a nice 4 hours in a row playing as a scavenger guy, taking weps from dead raiders. I kinda hate the fact the raiders got unlimited grenades/molotovs tho, that shit kills me way too often.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 13, 2015, 06:35:46 am
Those random legendaries though. They are both fun and tedious encounters.

Just let me tell you guys one more tale of misadventure and conclude my daily F4 whining :D

I am following my doggie friend for that one quest (not spoilering). He walks me through an empty deserted road. It is daytime and there is absolutely nothing in sight. Well, as I expected, this doesn't last. A yao guai pops up to my right and starts pummeling me. I fight it guerilla-style but notice these occasional pew pews, realizing that there are now 3 super mutants around me. Is it over? It is not. Looking down, I see that my health meter is degrading rapidly. Something poisoned me! It is 2 of those blood flies poking me. Brace yourselves, because this is still not over. I notice a laser beam. Well, there is now a Mr. Gutsy attacking me as well. Just where the fuck were these guys all this time and how the fuck were they even getting along before I arrived?

Too unbelievable? Maybe I am just bulshitting you guys? Believe whatever you want. The game pulled exactly this shit at me. I reloaded like 6 times. Strangely, the game decided that Mr. Gutsy was overkill and stopped spawning it in the next reloads. I eventually survived only thanks to the fact that Dogmeat was now assisting me freely, not as a companion and I had Nick as my actual companion. Having help from two friendlies was my salvation. It was otherwise impossible for me to survive that or even run out of it due to my bad untimely save.

Yeah, that is it for now. Have a nice day :D

The game doesn't just magically spawn them to attack you, they're already spawned within a certain distance, I think they're attracted to gunfire, they will also fight each other if you make them cross paths, just get some distance on the ones attacking you. I know they don't just magically appear to attack you ( unless it's in a quests/locations scripted event ) because from the top of a hill at night I could see gunfire in the distance, like fairly far away, of the AI fighting AI.  Quick save often, allows you to plan your approach and try different things until you make it through difficult situations. I am playing on Survival now and I have killed tons of Legendary and Difficult ( Skull next to name ) enemies, because I just try again and try a new approach or different weapons for the situations if I am dying.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vovka on November 13, 2015, 08:26:00 am
The game doesn't just magically spawn them to attack you, they're already spawned within a certain distance, I think they're attracted to gunfire, they will also fight each other if you make them cross paths, just get some distance on the ones attacking you. I know they don't just magically appear to attack you ( unless it's in a quests/locations scripted event ) because from the top of a hill at night I could see gunfire in the distance, like fairly far away, of the AI fighting AI.  Quick save often, allows you to plan your approach and try different things until you make it through difficult situations. I am playing on Survival now and I have killed tons of Legendary and Difficult ( Skull next to name ) enemies, because I just try again and try a new approach or different weapons for the situations if I am dying.
Pretty sure here present spawnpoints for "random encounters" I spawn scavengers, scavengers + mutants, mutants
behind the nearest house simply crossing the exact same road three times in a row  :P
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 13, 2015, 08:37:46 am
Sneak and wep with silencer works remarkably well. I modded a legendary 10mm pistol that has 50% more damage against super mutants. So now not only sneak headshots on raiders and other scum give a quiet instakill, so do 1 or 2 headshots on supermutants. Thou 10mm rounds are rare. I constantly spend an asston of caps on them, which I get for selling other bullets I will probably never fire.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 13, 2015, 08:50:54 am
Pretty sure here present spawnpoints for "random encounters" I spawn scavengers, scavengers + mutants, mutants
behind the nearest house simply crossing the exact same road three times in a row  :P
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I mentioned that there are certain locations with event spawns that will spawn enemies close by, but they honestly aren't that common from what I've explored and they certainly weren't impossible, the majority of encounters I have had are pre-spawned enemies that you can see from a mile away.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 09:52:59 am
The game doesn't just magically spawn them to attack you, they're already spawned within a certain distance, I think they're attracted to gunfire, they will also fight each other if you make them cross paths, just get some distance on the ones attacking you. I know they don't just magically appear to attack you ( unless it's in a quests/locations scripted event ) because from the top of a hill at night I could see gunfire in the distance, like fairly far away, of the AI fighting AI.  Quick save often, allows you to plan your approach and try different things until you make it through difficult situations. I am playing on Survival now and I have killed tons of Legendary and Difficult ( Skull next to name ) enemies, because I just try again and try a new approach or different weapons for the situations if I am dying.

For clarification, as I already mentioned, it was a vast open road with no mob bases around. And they did simply magically spawn. There was nothing in sight over the plains in front of me. Just what the hell kind of thing would make 4 entirely different kind of enemies peacefully sit in the corner and fly at you out of the blue anyway?

Also you keep using this word "spawn". See, the Fallout I know never had  "spawn points". It isn't supposed to. Enemies would be there in their own territories. Be careful enough and you can see them from a mile away and plan your approach accordingly. Do you think I am not being stealthy? Hell I almost never stop crouching. However, it is impossible to survive these shitty pop-ups all the time. I waited for this joke to end, yet apparently it never does.

Still at this point, maybe Beth really did something right, which is stealth. At night, you can crouch through the entire map without being detected as long as you stay in the dark? But that hardly saves this mess.

Also, I too have killed many legendaries and skull enemies. I just find it horrible that the game endlessly throws these at you. Eventually it becomes a chore to find enough stims to save your ass.

And I already said this, but what the fuck is with the ghouls playing dead, flooding in from windows and shit? Ghouls aren't exactly zombies ffs and last time I checked, this wasn't a zombie game either.

I kinda hate the fact the raiders got unlimited grenades/molotovs tho, that shit kills me way too often.

This effectively fucks up your chances of remaining hidden as well. You get several sneak shots at best and then they find you regardless of how well you hid your ass. And then it is a grenade/missile/molotov fest.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 13, 2015, 11:30:49 am
Does anyone know how to move properly while building stuff ? I can only use S and D, W and A are locked for some reason.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 13, 2015, 12:08:48 pm
Does anyone know how to move properly while building stuff ? I can only use S and D, W and A are locked for some reason.

Azerty/qwerty, alt+maj. Or special bindings.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 13, 2015, 12:22:25 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 01:06:53 pm
Found a .50 cal rifle that was fully upgraded in every section, can now almost 1 shot Yao Guais without sneak bonus(in Survival difficulty) :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 13, 2015, 01:42:47 pm
anyone want to do a sharing of what their base stats were for S.P.E.C.I.A.L when they started the game?

mine was;

S:6
P:6
E:2
C:5
I:6
A:2
L:1

now having seen the perks, i wish i wouldve went more into agi instead of strength.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 13, 2015, 01:49:10 pm
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pff i've china walled all around the sanctuary :D
tbh i'm having more fun with this building than story so yeah
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 13, 2015, 02:33:10 pm
I've only built sanctuary up a wee bit, big ass wall with a load of turrets.

Hangmans Alley in the middle of Boston is where shit is happeneing, constant raids, loads of turrets and buildings plus Brotherhood flying around getting blown to shit by mutants and raiders...ah its so peaceful downtown!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 03:04:13 pm
So if you've seen something fall down from the sky and crashed you can find it around Oberland Station, at least that's where I found it. I'm not gonna spoil what you find but it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 13, 2015, 03:34:19 pm
So if you've seen something fall down from the sky and crashed you can find it around Oberland Station, at least that's where I found it. I'm not gonna spoil what you find but it's pretty cool.

Oooh If I think I know what it is then  picked up the magazine that goes with it haha
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 13, 2015, 04:46:37 pm
Can someone say what does this "building" part of the game actually means, story-wise and gameplay-wise? (w/o spoiling, if possible)
Also, some pointed out that there was less "choices" (evilest-neutral-goodest, in a fallout way) in the narrative, does this actually is a bad thing, or is it supported by excellent story, or other. Or maybe is it not true at all?


Basically, I'm on the breach about downlo... buying this game. And since I've played Fallout 3 a bit, I mostly need to know if its still as good, or better, and whats new?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 13, 2015, 05:37:32 pm
Can someone say what does this "building" part of the game actually means, story-wise and gameplay-wise? (w/o spoiling, if possible)
Also, some pointed out that there was less "choices" (evilest-neutral-goodest, in a fallout way) in the narrative, does this actually is a bad thing, or is it supported by excellent story, or other. Or maybe is it not true at all?


Basically, I'm on the breach about downlo... buying this game. And since I've played Fallout 3 a bit, I mostly need to know if its still as good, or better, and whats new?
You could at least make the effort to read the thread cuz everything above has been answered a few pages back... especially when not buying


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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 13, 2015, 06:53:42 pm
You could at least make the effort to read the thread cuz everything above has been answered a few pages back... especially when not buying


You could at least make the effort to give approximately what page. I've been reading this thread for the past few days, which is why I only ask two specific questions, the rest being covered by fellow posters.
Re-read from page 40, nothing in sight, so fuck you and dont respond again if its not useful to me :wink:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 13, 2015, 07:04:39 pm
I've only built sanctuary up a wee bit, big ass wall with a load of turrets.

Hangmans Alley in the middle of Boston is where shit is happeneing, constant raids, loads of turrets and buildings plus Brotherhood flying around getting blown to shit by mutants and raiders...ah its so peaceful downtown!
Da fuck? I havent had a single attack in the entire game. What am I doing wrong. Not enough swagger or what?

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I went for solo perks. Screw dogemeat. In more than atleast 3 occasions I was pinned down in a corridor firefight and the enemies kept chucking nades and molotovs at me and when I tried to run away, he decided that it was a perfect time to stay sideways in my way so that I would get my legs blown off. Such explosions. many quickloads. wow....
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 07:05:41 pm
Oooh If I think I know what it is then  picked up the magazine that goes with it haha

I found something in a cave after it had left marks of blood everywhere  :arrow:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 13, 2015, 07:06:15 pm
How do you get rid of him. If I tell him to stay, any time I fast travel, he appears with me.

About the only time I've found him usefull is when I have to much gear.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 07:07:11 pm
How do you get rid of him. If I tell him to stay, any time I fast travel, he appears with me.

About the only time I've found him usefull is when I have to much gear.

You can tell him to stay or dismiss him so he travels back to his original space or you can decide.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 07:10:53 pm
Can someone say what does this "building" part of the game actually means, story-wise and gameplay-wise? (w/o spoiling, if possible)
Also, some pointed out that there was less "choices" (evilest-neutral-goodest, in a fallout way) in the narrative, does this actually is a bad thing, or is it supported by excellent story, or other. Or maybe is it not true at all?


Basically, I'm on the breach about downlo... buying this game. And since I've played Fallout 3 a bit, I mostly need to know if its still as good, or better, and whats new?

To be honest, the building thing does not look like it does anything useful. It was probably a half-assed idea that never matured to a meaningful concept. But hey, as you can see some people are having fun with it. Think of it as a minigame itself. Just a timekiller.

Dialogue choices are terrible. You have a dialogue wheel of 4 options and they aren't even full texts. Mostly 4 options named with one single word. You don't even know what option will exactly lead you to. So far, I have always gone for the absolutely safest-looking choice. I couldn't risk getting locked out of an NPC because of some random dialogue option.

As for whether it is bad or not, yes it is. All previous Fallouts, especially the original 2D ones gave you plenty of dialogue options depending on your stats (INT) and perks (speech-related). Dialogues could lead you to many unexpected and surprising consequences. Now it seems to be hollowed out. In F4, you  just occasionally see that one of your options is colored differently. You can pick it and hope that it leads to "convincing" an NPC.

In the end, you might still like it. Looks like I am one of the very few people who were disappointed by it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 07:26:30 pm
For me the game is an improvement over F3 and NW in many ways, just the dialogue and skill progression is really bad. One thing that I think is pretty cool "immersion" wise is that Brotherhood of Steel will often send out helicopters with troops to attack Super Mutant camps, and for once raiders actually occupy a large portion of the areas around the cities, not just some random raiders in an abandoned house located miles from other settlements. Wish there were more trading caravans, I have yet to see no traveling caravans, just the occasional trader and dogseller.

Weapons also doesn't appear unless you're holding them, gotta wait for a mod that actually displays the weapon on the back or the hip. And darker nights. I also wonder if you at some point can become a Super Mutant yourself or if the mutant armor you pick up is designed for a potential follower. Also, the default keys are horrible, no idea why they decided to change the control layout from the other games, had to remap and some of the keys I wanted to change wasn't even displayed in the control options.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 13, 2015, 07:29:56 pm
Talking about weapons, has anyone gotten the glitch where your weapon disappears even though you're still holding it? I can see it again if I go to third person then back to first so its not a huge problem but it has happened more than once.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 13, 2015, 07:32:02 pm
I also wonder if you at some point can become a Super Mutant yourself or if the mutant armor you pick up is designed for a potential follower. Also, the default keys are horrible, no idea why they decided to change the control layout from the other games, had to remap and some of the keys I wanted to change wasn't even displayed in the control options.

Turning into a super mutant would be super cool. But I think the mutant gear is for you to wear. I have been using the super mutant girdle at least.

Talking about weapons, has anyone gotten the glitch where your weapon disappears even though you're still holding it? I can see it again if I go to third person then back to first so its not a huge problem but it has happened more than once.

Yeah happens a lot. Also you sometimes briefly freeze when you switch from 1st person to 3rd person view.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Golem on November 13, 2015, 07:34:57 pm
Talking about weapons, has anyone gotten the glitch where your weapon disappears even though you're still holding it? I can see it again if I go to third person then back to first so its not a huge problem but it has happened more than once.
Are you refering to holstering your weapon by holding R?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 13, 2015, 07:45:31 pm
I went for solo perks. Screw dogemeat. In more than atleast 3 occasions I was pinned down in a corridor firefight and the enemies kept chucking nades and molotovs at me and when I tried to run away, he decided that it was a perfect time to stay sideways in my way so that I would get my legs blown off. Such explosions. many quickloads. wow....

I love him, perfect for ranged play. He has saved me a bunch of times by pinning down enemies or distracting them, plus I don't need to worry if he dies so I can molotov the battlefield indiscriminately
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 13, 2015, 07:57:29 pm
Pretty sure the super mutant armor is for the super mutant follower you can meet, called 'Strong'.

On my first character I'm running with Nick Valentine, a private investigator synth. He's a pretty interesting companion, great at opening locks and hacking terminals. My BoS character's companion is Paladin Danse, standard BoS fanatic and a pretty tough fighter. Goes toe to toe with a behemoth no problem but always moralizing when I do psycho. It's great to see btw. the BoS returning from the stray path Lyons put them on, again embracing the creed from the original California chapters.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2015, 08:28:36 pm
Are you refering to holstering your weapon by holding R?

No there's a bug where weapons just disappear and are unusable. This usually happens to me when switching weapons and I found you could fix it by spamming shot or aim for 2 seconds then the weapon finally appears. But it's happened to me just standing about or unholstering the weapon. It can be quite annoying in the middle of a fire fight when I change out my sniper.

But other than that I've been enjoying the game a lot. I chose a stealth sniper character that is shoots from far away or gets in close range with pistols and my double barrel. I spend most my time wandering the alleys of Boston or the Forest areas in the Northeast and I've been finding a lot of interesting things. In this thread I've been reading that people feel like they are being pushed towards the story, but I really haven't felt this at all. I've spent most my time exploring random parts of the maps and have found opponents easy and difficult. Of course I'm playing on normal difficulty with a character that usually picks foes off at a safe distance. That being said I've been able to face most opponents head on if I play it carefully while wearing no armour. Most the sidequests I find are obviously randomly generated kill spots, but I've also found a few that were obviously unique and enjoyable. The Brotherhood and Minutemen questlines are also really interesting so far. That being said there are enemies where I know I can't close in or I would die or enemies I just don't want to touch in general. These enemies I either return to with heavy artillery or just avoid.

So far I am in love with the world they created and the custom weapon system. Although the new dialogue system and being unable to see red dots out of combat really take away from my fun. But all in all it's still a great game imo even with its many flaws. We'll just have to wait until mods come out to fix dialogue and other stuff. Besides I never played fallout games because they were rpgs, I played them for the adventure element and story so even though they removed skills, I think it still upholds to the core concepts of fallout... other than the dialogue, that is just awful.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 13, 2015, 08:33:07 pm
There is also a bug where you teleport back to one of your previous location when you used vats or enter or leave firstperson. Has fucked me up a bunch of times where I went into VATS and suddenly teleported a few meters back.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 13, 2015, 08:59:26 pm
Holy crap this really is more like Skyrim the more I play it. As I recall, in the previous Fallouts, you always had only one faction to side with and that was based on your main quest choices. There was no 100 different joining rituals for many different groups. Now it appears it does the TES guild thing, where you are doing jobs for multiple groups, while also progressing the main quest on the side. Its actually kinda enjoyable.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 13, 2015, 09:33:24 pm
that feeling when everyone complaining about something or encountering some bugs while i never had a single problem so far ( should make a meme out of this )
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2015, 09:46:10 pm
Holy crap this really is more like Skyrim the more I play it. As I recall, in the previous Fallouts, you always had only one faction to side with and that was based on your main quest choices. There was no 100 different joining rituals for many different groups. Now it appears it does the TES guild thing, where you are doing jobs for multiple groups, while also progressing the main quest on the side. Its actually kinda enjoyable.

I've only encountered two factions you could join, honestly both New Vegas and Fallout 3 both had more factions than that, but we'll see by the end of the game. And if you decide to use the argument where in NV you could take sides with Legion, NCR or House or go solo. I'll just tell you they did that in Morrowind long before NV was released. Plus NV was made by obsidian so you can expect it to differ from Fallout 3 and TES when it's from a different developer.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 13, 2015, 10:37:07 pm
I always wanted to be a ghoul in a fallout game, sadly it still isnt a possiblity. Maybe next game, if obsidian will be making one..
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 13, 2015, 10:44:53 pm
I always wanted to be a ghoul in a fallout game, sadly it still isnt a possiblity. Maybe next game, if obsidian will be making one..

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 13, 2015, 10:59:12 pm
I always wanted to be a ghoul in a fallout game, sadly it still isnt a possiblity. Maybe next game, if obsidian will be making one..

There's a mod for Fallout 3 where you can be A Ghoul, doesn't really affect anything other than appearance if I remember correctly. I only did a brief play through as Raz Al Ghoul where I blew up Megaton, had a chuckle then stopped playing.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 13, 2015, 11:18:41 pm
I've only encountered two factions you could join, honestly both New Vegas and Fallout 3 both had more factions than that, but we'll see by the end of the game. And if you decide to use the argument where in NV you could take sides with Legion, NCR or House or go solo. I'll just tell you they did that in Morrowind long before NV was released. Plus NV was made by obsidian so you can expect it to differ from Fallout 3 and TES when it's from a different developer.

Afaik there are 3. And despite NV and FO3 having more,you couldnt do shit with them really. Just few quests here and there. A faction TES style is having entire questlines dedicated to one faction, where you meet all kinds of characters. In NV and FO3, despite the abundance of factions, you only got a few secondary quests out of them and they all were running on a single questline which end was determined by your actions. None of the factions had a secondary questline of their own. I mean common "the Vipers", "the jackals", "Powder gangers".....? They were just different names for irrelevant thuggangs.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Araxiel on November 14, 2015, 01:03:18 am
that feeling when everyone complaining about something or encountering some bugs while i never had a single problem so far ( should make a meme out of this )
UI is shit. Total crap. But i am guessing you are using a controller.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 14, 2015, 01:37:43 am
I use mouse and Keyboard and I have no problems with the UI. Although NPC pathfinding can be tough at times, my companion can't even go up thinner stairs. Need to be at least 3 feet wide.

edit: Also the fact that I can't rebind taking stuff from chests from E infuriates me constantly. As I always get confused about whether to use e or the use key I mapped to f.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 14, 2015, 01:37:59 am
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In a game where people would react based on my, well, race... Would be hilarious, like how you tell all ghouls they are ugly as fuck, now you can be the victim! And you can also call everyone smoothskin, fuckin bundle of sticks smoothskins.

Just think it would be a neat change. Playing a highly charismatic ghoul, or a super smart super mutant. Completely different interractions, where many people would be hostile to super mutants, and rude to ghouls etc.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 14, 2015, 01:40:28 am
Afaik there are 3. And despite NV and FO3 having more,you couldnt do shit with them really. Just few quests here and there. A faction TES style is having entire questlines dedicated to one faction, where you meet all kinds of characters. In NV and FO3, despite the abundance of factions, you only got a few secondary quests out of them and they all were running on a single questline which end was determined by your actions. None of the factions had a secondary questline of their own. I mean common "the Vipers", "the jackals", "Powder gangers".....? They were just different names for irrelevant thuggangs.

NCR, Caesars Legion, House and Yes Man had lots of quests.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 14, 2015, 01:44:07 am
Afaik there are 3. And despite NV and FO3 having more,you couldnt do shit with them really. Just few quests here and there. A faction TES style is having entire questlines dedicated to one faction, where you meet all kinds of characters. In NV and FO3, despite the abundance of factions, you only got a few secondary quests out of them and they all were running on a single questline which end was determined by your actions. None of the factions had a secondary questline of their own. I mean common "the Vipers", "the jackals", "Powder gangers".....? They were just different names for irrelevant thuggangs.

As far as i can remember, the bigger factions in NV had lots of quests, i mean you basically beat the game through them if you chose.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 14, 2015, 06:38:32 am
does anyone know if levels have an effect on combat other than of course giving you perks?

I'm enjoying hardest diff, but im worried if I keep doing all quests on 1 character it'll end up like witcher where I become too high level and game decides to artificially make it less fun for last half of the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 14, 2015, 08:02:53 am
NCR, Caesars Legion, House and Yes Man had lots of quests.

The quests for all of them were almost same(Exept House, he was the suprise contender for the NCR and Legion). Remember? The only difference was that you chose on whose behalf you started and finished them.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Clockworkkiller on November 14, 2015, 08:16:42 am
The quests for all of them were almost same(Exept House, he was the suprise contender for the NCR and Legion). Remember? The only difference was that you chose on whose behalf you started and finished them.

Not really tho, Tbh fam
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 14, 2015, 12:26:03 pm
Im just wearing the best gear I can find, such as the sea captains hat which is effectively +30hp. Yet I look like this

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 14, 2015, 02:08:35 pm
does anyone know if levels have an effect on combat other than of course giving you perks?

I'm enjoying hardest diff, but im worried if I keep doing all quests on 1 character it'll end up like witcher where I become too high level and game decides to artificially make it less fun for last half of the game.

I have seen enemies become more resistant to my weapons as I leveled up, so far only the regular raider is the only enemy I can quickly kill, even bloatflies seem to get more hp, not sure if it's area dependent though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 14, 2015, 02:17:03 pm
As I understand it the area determines the level of the enemies. Further south east you go the worse it gets. I imagine there's a degree of leveling with the character to keep it consistent but I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 14, 2015, 02:56:13 pm
I have seen enemies become more resistant to my weapons as I leveled up, so far only the regular raider is the only enemy I can quickly kill, even bloatflies seem to get more hp, not sure if it's area dependent though.

Same problem. Also this happened.

> went into the east of commonweath.
> found a facility
> facility had radroaches and some loot.
> I got out
> found two legendary ennemies with skulls (mirelurk kings)
> ran the shit on a nearby hill after I tried to deal them a bit of damage, removed like 5% with 4 bullets.
> found a shitty protectron robot.
> the robot did tear them in two fucking hits for each.
> please.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 14, 2015, 03:22:01 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 14, 2015, 03:40:21 pm
Couldn't find anything on google about this but i have a problem with the hotkeys and wandering if anyone has the same.

When i press 1 or 2 w/e, to change weapons quickly, the game delays it for like 5-10 seconds in some cases sometimes it does it straight away but most times it doesn't, basically resulting in me stuck between changing weapons and not being able to attack.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 14, 2015, 04:19:19 pm
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Do you even Smash molly ?  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 14, 2015, 05:59:12 pm
Found a legendary radroach.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 14, 2015, 07:04:57 pm
Found a legendary radroach.  :lol:

Pics or fake
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 14, 2015, 08:04:07 pm
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/218/?

Raises the probability for Legendary spawns.
Haven't tried yet but will do.  8-)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 14, 2015, 08:20:17 pm
Game's been running absolutely perfect the entire week ive been playing. Now, today, for some reason, while almost close to the end, it bugs out in just about every way possible. Something breaks annoyingly almost every 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 14, 2015, 09:04:12 pm
Thanks for the answer Blockula.

For me the game is an improvement over F3 and NW in many ways, just the dialogue and skill progression is really bad.

Most of the enjoyment I have in this kind of game is the dialogue and skill progression though  :cry:  Like, in Mass Effect, I found the combat terrible to slightly entertaining, but ithe dialogue choices and consequences (+ the "lets fuck" achievements, like with The Witcher  :lol:) were so excellent that, for me, ME is easily one of the best game ever.

But from what I read, the combat system and big map packed with random shit, can make F4 interesting. That and maybe the story is not too bad for my taste.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 14, 2015, 09:22:42 pm
Following up on the Oberland Station thing I mentioned, it seems to be a level triggered event when you're around the Diamond City area.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Thovex on November 14, 2015, 10:16:49 pm
have u guys met swan
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 14, 2015, 11:04:04 pm
have u guys met swan

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 14, 2015, 11:06:14 pm
Sounds like fun side quests  :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 14, 2015, 11:15:14 pm
Oh. My. Fucking. God.

This game has the worst writers ever. I can't believe what they did with Shaun, "your baby." It's surprising because it's so fucking obvious. And they treat the player like a retard by having the PC talk like "i'm looking for a baby boy!!!" constantly. Hurr durr what a twist, no one saw that one coming when you got frozen again after Shaun was taken...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 14, 2015, 11:44:57 pm
Oh. My. Fucking. God.

This game has the worst writers ever. I can't believe what they did with Shaun, "your baby." It's surprising because it's so fucking obvious. And they treat the player like a retard by having the PC talk like "i'm looking for a baby boy!!!" constantly. Hurr durr what a twist, no one saw that one coming when you got frozen again after Shaun was taken...

Rofl yeah. Max stupid, I knew this would be the case right at the start... Then when you talk to that detective who says 'that guy left with a 10 year old kid' and your character goes 'BUT IM LOOKING FOR A BABY' and all you can think is 'you fucking retard'
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Golem on November 15, 2015, 12:20:18 am
ikr
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 15, 2015, 12:28:21 am
Rofl yeah. Max stupid, I knew this would be the case right at the start... Then when you talk to that detective who says 'that guy left with a 10 year old kid' and your character goes 'BUT IM LOOKING FOR A BABY' and all you can think is 'you fucking retard'
Not just his age either, it's what he ends up being... so cliché and predictable.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2015, 01:21:23 am
Rofl yeah. Max stupid, I knew this would be the case right at the start... Then when you talk to that detective who says 'that guy left with a 10 year old kid' and your character goes 'BUT IM LOOKING FOR A BABY' and all you can think is 'you fucking retard'

Well that sentence would've worked if they had low intelligence dialog choices.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 15, 2015, 01:33:24 am
have u guys met swan

First time I learnt to fly,  second time he learnt that I needed his boats more than him
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 15, 2015, 01:39:35 am
Da fuck? I havent had a single attack in the entire game. What am I doing wrong. Not enough swagger or what?


Have you gone and done any of the main story yet? Brotherhood appears at a certain trigger point. As do the raids I think, more a settlement increases prosperity the mote it attracts raids. Hangman's alley now has 4 turrets and 7 settlers but only one watch tower (guy has amazing gear).

Kuoin, keep forgetting to go check out the thing falling from the sky haha

Shit should have edited my previous post haha...any chance of a merge?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 15, 2015, 01:44:36 am
Have you gone and done any of the main story yet? Brotherhood appears at a certain trigger point. As do the raids I think, more a settlement increases prosperity the mote it attracts raids. Hangman's alley now has 4 turrets and 7 settlers but only one watch tower (guy has amazing gear).

Kuoin, keep forgetting to go check out the thing falling from the sky haha

Shit should have edited my previous post haha...any chance of a merge?
I'm sure the forums will be able to handle one double post without exploding.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 15, 2015, 01:49:38 am
Have you gone and done any of the main story yet? Brotherhood appears at a certain trigger point. As do the raids I think, more a settlement increases prosperity the mote it attracts raids. Hangman's alley now has 4 turrets and 7 settlers but only one watch tower (guy has amazing gear).

I think the game said that if you have the sum of your food and water above your protection score, you'll get raided more or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 15, 2015, 01:51:03 am
I think the game said that if you have the sum of your food and water above your protection score, you'll get raided more or something along those lines.

Food and water totals maybe 25 and my defense is 50 or 40 haha
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 15, 2015, 02:33:23 am
Found a legendary radroach.  :lol:

I actually had 2 in same room, phat and easy lewts.

my fav legendary modifiers so far are:

slow mo when 20% hp - not that useful just mega fun
25% damage+limb on my combat shotgun - because it wasn't op enough already.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 15, 2015, 03:31:02 am
I actually had 2 in same room, phat and easy lewts.

my fav legendary modifiers so far are:

slow mo when 20% hp - not that useful just mega fun
25% damage+limb on my combat shotgun - because it wasn't op enough already.
I found a laser rifle with 25% reload speed and 15% increased fire rate, all the others i've found are mainly action point buffs, i never use vats so they are useless really.

Also i just went all the way south and apparently the map doesn't end where i thought it did, it's much much bigger than i thought.

I have high-ultra settings on going through the "glowing sea" or what ever it's called and with the rad storms the game looks fucking amazing to my eyes. I was just looking around and thinking how good it will be with an immersive HUD mod. The glowing sea area has the perfect atmosphere for fallout.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 15, 2015, 04:06:33 am
found my new least favourite thing!

entire areas can respawn from [cleared], as if you never spend 30 minutes clearing them of all enemies and painstaking collecting all the trash.

I mean I enjoyed in fo3 running out of good ammo, resources being limited. So I got the find ammo perk and was using ammo types sparing for when I can get better use out of them later with better gun mods, but dayum. I already have thousands of most ammo type just from looting a few areas.

Whole point of the game is so diminished if areas respawn.

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Umbra on November 15, 2015, 05:05:25 am
Does anyone have any tips for optimizing fallout 4 below lowest graphics. I made a few changes to the ini but i would like to know if anyone has any more information.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 15, 2015, 07:24:14 am
Does anyone have any tips for optimizing fallout 4 below lowest graphics. I made a few changes to the ini but i would like to know if anyone has any more information.

Upgrade your hardware, np for the tip.

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EDIT: I've found this mod, it may help http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/606/?. There are also a couple other performance mods on the Nexus site I've seen, just search through.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 15, 2015, 10:50:47 am
Nexus will always have whatever you need...

Atm my favourite Legendary is a Submachine Gun with exploding bullets :lol:
Yep, it's as op as it sounds!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 15, 2015, 10:55:32 am
Oh. My. Fucking. God.

This game has the worst writers ever. I can't believe what they did with Shaun, "your baby." It's surprising because it's so fucking obvious. And they treat the player like a retard by having the PC talk like "i'm looking for a baby boy!!!" constantly. Hurr durr what a twist, no one saw that one coming when you got frozen again after Shaun was taken...

Yeah, quite cheesy as I said. The entire cryogenetics thingy was obviously designed to hit the cliché right in the head. Then as soon as you hear about the evil Institute boogeyman being responsible, a massive facepalm ensues. I still haven't gotten to the ending but I have known exactly what it will be like from the beginning. Still, as I mentioned, I could live with a cheesy story as long as they could drop the cheesy gameplay elements on the other hand.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 15, 2015, 11:47:35 am
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 15, 2015, 03:20:03 pm
Just found a legendary combat rifle with unlimited ammo cap. Turn this into an automated one and just spray 400 bullets at some unlucky fuckers haha
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 15, 2015, 03:48:50 pm
Just found a legendary combat rifle with unlimited ammo cap. Turn this into an automated one and just spray 400 bullets at some unlucky fuckers haha

Some things should definitely get some balance by bethesda. Like that laser rifle with unlimited ammo.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 15, 2015, 04:33:16 pm
Unlimited ammo cap just means you don't reload, but it just means you waste more ammo as you're more careless with your shots. I ended up giving it to a settler in hangman's alley so he can spray without ever reloading, beat the system
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 15, 2015, 05:12:54 pm
Unlimited ammo cap just means you don't reload, but it just means you waste more ammo as you're more careless with your shots. I ended up giving it to a settler in hangman's alley so he can spray without ever reloading, beat the system

Give that kind of bonus to a .38 rifle or a double barrel shotgun, and YOU SHALL SEE.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 15, 2015, 05:53:11 pm
Just found a legendary combat rifle with unlimited ammo cap. Turn this into an automated one and just spray 400 bullets at some unlucky fuckers haha
My Sub-Machine with exploding bullets beats your sorry-ass-rifle.
100 shot mag, every single bullet a little hand grenade :lol:

Loving it :P
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on November 15, 2015, 06:22:12 pm
Found a legendary radroach.  :lol:
Pics or fake

Here you go:

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Found it under the satellite dish, not far from the first settlement. Got it annihilated with a surprise sneak-attack.

Btw, meet Mo Lester. He is really missing his son, but has enough love for all of the children.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 15, 2015, 06:29:42 pm

Btw, meet Mo Lester. He is really missing his son, but has enough love for all of the children.

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If Bethesda had a competition for ugliest F4 character, you'd win it. Seriously.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Rhekimos on November 15, 2015, 06:39:10 pm
Does anyone have any tips for optimizing fallout 4 below lowest graphics. I made a few changes to the ini but i would like to know if anyone has any more information.

Going beyond the ini, the next thing is to resize textures smaller. It'll look ugly but also allow lower spec computers to run it, especially if you are low on vram.
To actually do it, you'd need to unpack the game files and then resize the textures by hand or with some batch tool or with a tool developed specifically for the game, and then finally pack it up into a game file again. Modders have been doing this for Oblivion and Skyrim, both in custom tools and ready mod packs of low spec game files, so you'll have to wait until they crop up or go investigate how to do it by hand.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on November 15, 2015, 06:43:14 pm
If Bethesda had a competition for ugliest F4 character, you'd win it. Seriously.

I bet you wouldn't dare to repeat it to Mo's face:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 15, 2015, 07:36:32 pm
When I use crafting on this game, some weapons disappear. I have tested this several times and it keeps happening. Has anyone encountered this bug yet, and if yes, has anyone found a fix yet ? Ain't playing that until that gets a solution.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 15, 2015, 07:59:07 pm
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:lol:

And killed a Mirelurk big as a house... that fucker made me reload 3 times!

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 15, 2015, 08:04:27 pm
Pics or fake


Here you go:

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Found it under the satellite dish, not far from the first settlement. Got it annihilated with a surprise sneak-attack.

Btw, meet Mo Lester. He is really missing his son, but has enough love for all of the children.

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oh god lol i already feel molested
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 15, 2015, 08:09:11 pm
And killed a Mirelurk big as a house... that fucker made me reload 3 times!


Mate I killed that queen on survival and let me tell you...

It spams an AOE poison attack that 100% kill me if even scratches me in power armour. While im fighting it tons more mirelurks are appearing and attacking me.

So I'm running around mele bashing these hatchlings while trying to shoot queen with missile launcher, and kite big mirelurks. Took me 13 missiles, plus a ton of ammo to kill in the end with 25% bonus from psycho the whole time.

was alot of shooting missile in back then run around wall, shoot missile in back. also alot of reloading :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 15, 2015, 08:14:47 pm
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You are so talented man. For reals. :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 15, 2015, 09:05:31 pm
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:lol:

And killed a Mirelurk big as a house... that fucker made me reload 3 times!

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I did that at like level 8. Took a mini nuke + crit to the face and barely dented the HP.

After I finally KOd it i walked about and a legendary glowing mirelurk arrived and i just left.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 15, 2015, 09:55:22 pm
Mate I killed that queen on survival and let me tell you...

It spams an AOE poison attack that 100% kill me if even scratches me in power armour. While im fighting it tons more mirelurks are appearing and attacking me.

So I'm running around mele bashing these hatchlings while trying to shoot queen with missile launcher, and kite big mirelurks. Took me 13 missiles, plus a ton of ammo to kill in the end with 25% bonus from psycho the whole time.

was alot of shooting missile in back then run around wall, shoot missile in back. also alot of reloading :D

I used a fully upgraded super sledge and enclave power armor + 80% melee bonus perk. It was still a ridiculously difficult fight. That poison attack is beyond stupid and when it pulls that trick, it can get you from a mile away. Even running away can't save your ass.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: xxkaliboyx on November 15, 2015, 10:38:51 pm
So I tried to play, 1 hour into the game I get two bugs.

1: during the first stage after I get out the cryo chamber I check the terminal to read the logs. I'm stuck, I can't get away form the computer terminal

2: after I find the fix for the terminal I get my first weapon and all of a sudden it disappears. I still have the weapon equipped but its invisible.

I quit shortly after. I don't feel like investing time in another game of "user fixes". I will continue to play maybe after next or few patches. Until then, not recommended.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mala on November 16, 2015, 05:38:57 am
When I use crafting on this game, some weapons disappear. I have tested this several times and it keeps happening. Has anyone encountered this bug yet, and if yes, has anyone found a fix yet ? Ain't playing that until that gets a solution.
switch to 3rd person view and then go back to 1st person.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mala on November 16, 2015, 05:40:58 am
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i have found another one in a cellar with nearly no roo to evade the attacks.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 16, 2015, 09:59:43 am
So I tried to play, 1 hour into the game I get two bugs.

1: during the first stage after I get out the cryo chamber I check the terminal to read the logs. I'm stuck, I can't get away form the computer terminal

2: after I find the fix for the terminal I get my first weapon and all of a sudden it disappears. I still have the weapon equipped but its invisible.

I quit shortly after. I don't feel like investing time in another game of "user fixes". I will continue to play maybe after next or few patches. Until then, not recommended.

Both have happened to me, the first you get stuck on the skeleton where you get the pip boy but it's a one off. Haven't had anything like it since. The second one I holstered the weapon and when I drew it again it was fine.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 16, 2015, 10:00:49 am
I did that at like level 8. Took a mini nuke + crit to the face and barely dented the HP.

After I finally KOd it i walked about and a legendary glowing mirelurk arrived and i just left.
lel
that glowing one killed me and I hadn't quicksaved after the Queen... :annoyed:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2015, 10:07:44 am
I'm constantly running out of ammo. I prefer not to use VATS because it feels like cheating, so I always have to use more ammo than what they drop - most of the corpses have no ammo, those that do have like 6-8 ammo maximum. I have like 7 different guns I rotate through just so I can use up all the different ammo types. Kind of annoying, since ammo is expensive as fuck. My luck is at 1, is that why?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 16, 2015, 10:18:28 am
I also got 1 in luck but I have a shit ton of ammo ans I also don't use VATS, mainly cuz I only got enough to shoot 3 bullets maximum, I've had over 1k .38 bullets for a long time even when I'm using a pistol with .38 bullets for almost every encounter. Guess I got lucky with bullet loot.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2015, 11:05:29 am
I also got 1 in luck but I have a shit ton of ammo ans I also don't use VATS, mainly cuz I only got enough to shoot 3 bullets maximum, I've had over 1k .38 bullets for a long time even when I'm using a pistol with .38 bullets for almost every encounter. Guess I got lucky with bullet loot.

I guess it also depends if you're using pistols or lower damage full auto... dunno
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 16, 2015, 11:17:05 am
Anything automatic is generally just a waste of ammo in most situations IMO and best only to be used when you have excessive ammo. I am pretty happy using semi auto/bolt/revolver guns, they hit hard, better ammo conservation, just have to make sure you do hit with them lol. My laser rifle, hunting rifle and pipe revolver rifle are my favourite weapons.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 16, 2015, 11:29:55 am
Sub-machine gun with exploding bullets <3 (.45)
Luck is at 8 and I can't complain about bullet loot...

Somebody stumbled over the scrap yard with the shit ton of mutants near Diamond City, outskirt towards the Minutemen Castle? Like 10-12 mutants, 3 with skull, 1 legendary Super Mutant Scavver Master or something?
Took like 30 min to clean out that place, got addicted to most drugs in my inventory :lol:
Luckily, at the end of the scrapyard, after killing the last Mutant, I found something Anti-Addicton or sum such... cured all addictions :D

And I am mainly using VATS... edurance is 3... I can't dodge that much most of the time...

Oww, and I found a .50 cal sniper rifle with quick reload mag and night-vision scope. Soooo useful!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on November 16, 2015, 12:32:34 pm
Mo is only level 9, so things might change later on, but so far an almost fully upgraded .38 bolt action and an auto 10mm pistol work fine :) I have used molotovs against power armored raiders and super mutants with great success. Have a few mines saved for later, in case i get caught in a closed spot - that worked for me in other fallout/scrolls games.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2015, 01:35:30 pm
One of the more ridiculous things you can do when fighting bosses and harder enemies is just running into their face, pressing VATS and then chosing headshot. Since you're so close you won't miss anyway.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 16, 2015, 02:12:29 pm
One of the more ridiculous things you can do when fighting bosses and harder enemies is just running into their face, pressing VATS and then chosing headshot. Since you're so close you won't miss anyway.
When that 95% headshot chance misses though, gg. But yeah, I use this tactic very often, although they usually need like 30 headshots to die and I only use this tactic for the last stretch. Also, I always do ring around the rosey with strong melee enemies. I can beat anything with a convenient rock and plenty of ammo. Takes 15 minutes of juking around the rock, but its generally pretty safe.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2015, 02:15:17 pm
When that 95% headshot chance misses though, gg. But yeah, I use this tactic very often, although they usually need like 30 headshots to die and I only use this tactic for the last stretch. Also, I always do ring around the rosey with strong melee enemies. I can beat anything with a convenient rock and plenty of ammo. Takes 15 minutes of juking around the rock, but its generally pretty safe.

I stuck a Deathclaw or whatever those diablo things are on a rock in the nuke zone, took my sweet time shooting him in the head to conserve ammo. Felt like Dark Souls with a ranged character, aka cheating.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 16, 2015, 02:16:29 pm
So guess who I ran into in goodneighbour (after sleeping with the singer haha ) - this is a semi-spoiler but i dont think it impacts the story in any way

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Then I left to do some clearing up and this freaky ass shit happened.

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Then i walked in on an alcoholic

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Then...black hawk went down

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Then rocket ships went AWOL

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And then I killed this 'little' fucker

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Before having a rest and going back to my childhood

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 16, 2015, 02:42:25 pm
Sounds like you had a good time!

Last night I spent half an hour clearing out a satellite array from super mutants, one was a legendary and 3 others had the skulls. I used all my .308 .38 .45 and microfusion cells along with 3 rockets and ended up having to stab him with a bayonet to kill him. I even found a random power armour and jumped off a dish in it cos I was cornered.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 16, 2015, 03:01:56 pm
Bethesda are soooo predictably bad at balancing at this point. Case in point your talking about automatic wasting more ammo, its worse than that. The semi auto rifles actually have a higher firerate when you spam click. So the automatic mods make guns much less acurate, cut damage per bullet to less than half, and actually reduce firerate. Plus a bunch more obvious reasons why rifleman is way better than everything.

I don't think im ever going to run out of ammo or fusions cores. Also playing no vats, hardest difficulty = half damage. so burning alot of ammo, but never close to running out maybe because Im using every type and not trying to just stick to one gun. Only ammo type you loot less than you use is shotgun shells, which is good because combat shotgun makes alot of enemies too easy.

Yeah anyone else reached the typical rpg difficulty trough? Levels 10-25 were fun but now i'm 31 feeling like its just too breezy from here.

Why do they always design RPGs to have such inverse difficulty curves? Witcher was one of the worst offenders, game was such much fun until you became too high level.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 16, 2015, 03:06:22 pm
Fought two Deathclaws in Power Armor, beat them pretty easily with no need to use more than one stimpak. Then comes along a bloodsucker bug AKA mutated mosquito and fucking owns my ass with acid n shit, damn.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 16, 2015, 03:10:09 pm
Boss design in bethesda games always comes down to finding a cheese-strat. I can enjoy stuff like that, but it feels like a shit design in general, and must be hell for those that dont like to aboze.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 16, 2015, 04:26:31 pm
Boss design in bethesda games always comes down to finding a cheese-strat. I can enjoy stuff like that, but it feels like a shit design in general, and must be hell for those that dont like to aboze.

You are a cheese strat!

But yeah it's not really RPGs that are culpable for the silly difficulty it's any games with leveling involved.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 16, 2015, 06:39:40 pm
Fought two Deathclaws in Power Armor, beat them pretty easily with no need to use more than one stimpak. Then comes along a bloodsucker bug AKA mutated mosquito and fucking owns my ass with acid n shit, damn.

yeah they have no clue how to balance DoT effects, check this:

http://gfycat.com/NastyWaryAmericanratsnake
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 16, 2015, 08:20:42 pm
But yeah it's not really RPGs that are culpable for the silly difficulty it's any games with leveling involved.

I disagree, other games do a much better job of giving you progression but making you NEED all the progression you can get. Souls series, xcom.... ok maybe not tons but they exist.

I also made a reddit thread about this topic and drew this smexy graph

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 16, 2015, 08:26:11 pm
I've not really played Dark Souls but Bloodborne has an odd difficulty. It's not clever difficult like Metro's harder difficulties but more frustrating as there's just no save points or anything.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2015, 09:42:42 pm
What the fuck guys I can't read 20 pages of this every day.

EDIT: okay finally skimmed through everything. Will post some content later.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2015, 10:03:14 pm
I disagree, other games do a much better job of giving you progression but making you NEED all the progression you can get. Souls series, xcom.... ok maybe not tons but they exist.

I also made a reddit thread about this topic and drew this smexy graph

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On the other hand, you're actively looking for ways to break difficulty and to do things the most optimal way, researching things and doing calculations etc -- then you're surprised the game becomes easy.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 16, 2015, 10:10:22 pm
Dark Souls is a good example of that. It's only hard on your first play through when you have no idea what the fuck you are doing. Once you recognise what builds are strong and you learn the mechanics, it becomes a walk over after that.

There are people I know who heard how hard the game was though so they researched builds ect before hand and were disappointed. Of course it's not difficult if you do that.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 16, 2015, 10:22:31 pm
Dark Souls is a good example of that. It's only hard on your first play through when you have no idea what the fuck you are doing. Once you recognise what builds are strong and you learn the mechanics, it becomes a walk over after that.

There are people I know who heard how hard the game was though so they researched builds ect before hand and were disappointed. Of course it's not difficult if you do that.

That's kinda how it works with everything though? If you've done it once already, it gets easier the next time you do it. But Banoks point was difficulty in a single (first) game run, I believe.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 16, 2015, 10:31:46 pm
Here we go, our hero Higby Nanites (don't ask, Planetside stuff) in glorious 1440p:

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As you can see he looks very intelligent and has a fitting choice of weaponry. His stats are 8, 5, 7, 1, 1, 4, 5 right now, level 17 on Hard difficulty. House rule is to never improve charisma or intelligence. One thing that bothers me is that I could be locking myself out of quests that require hacking advanced terminals. Of course, I invested in the Idiot Savant perk. That thing is simultaneously overpowered and extremely obnoxious as it produces a loud annoying noise every time it triggers. Combat is very easy except *some* of the red skulls. Then in the worst case I can always cheese with geometry. "Hardest" (more like most tedious) kill yet was the boss at the elementary school with pink food paste, "glowing one" or something like that. That thing ate through half my ammo reserves.

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To be honest in real situations I do use the combat rifle more than the Tor Hammer. That thing shatters enemies that have a level close to mine though. Hence the ammo conservation.

None of my settlements have been attacked yet, and I have almost 10 now, none of which have any kind of security bar Sanctuary. It seems Preston admires me in a very gay way but as soon as making advances became a choice I dumped him for Piper kek.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: cmp on November 16, 2015, 11:50:35 pm
On the other hand, you're actively looking for ways to break difficulty and to do things the most optimal way, researching things and doing calculations etc -- then you're surprised the game becomes easy.

It's like that even if you just play.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2015, 11:57:30 pm
It's like that even if you just play.
In Fallout 4, certainly, but that's what Banok does in every game. He appears in a thread showing his mad calculations and links to other forums/reddit where he has long pondered how to break the game mechanics, then a week later he complains about the difficulty.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 17, 2015, 12:13:09 am
I'm constantly running out of ammo. I prefer not to use VATS because it feels like cheating, so I always have to use more ammo than what they drop - most of the corpses have no ammo, those that do have like 6-8 ammo maximum. I have like 7 different guns I rotate through just so I can use up all the different ammo types. Kind of annoying, since ammo is expensive as fuck. My luck is at 1, is that why?
A melee weapon backup really helps conserve ammo. I have the same issue with ammo as I only use 10mm and energy cells, and visiting markets all the time is pretty annoying. Besides my 10mm and laser pistol I have a ripper that is very effective, especially against ghouls.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 17, 2015, 12:23:49 am
I'm constantly running out of ammo. I prefer not to use VATS because it feels like cheating, so I always have to use more ammo than what they drop - most of the corpses have no ammo, those that do have like 6-8 ammo maximum. I have like 7 different guns I rotate through just so I can use up all the different ammo types. Kind of annoying, since ammo is expensive as fuck. My luck is at 1, is that why?

Get the ammunition finder perk or whatever its called. Collect absolutely everything from everywhere. Use 2 types of weapons to concerve ammo, buy ammo from the money you got from selling the ammunition you did not use. Worked rather well for me. And I finished the game with using nothing but a 10mm and a laser rifle at some rare times. Thou in my case the sneak silencerbuild was a major help in conserving ammo. Firing 100 bullets at an enemy with a weaker gun rather than just selling that 100 bullets to buy bullets for a stronger weapon that could do it with 5 shots is logically not a very solid move. :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 17, 2015, 01:57:31 am
It's like that even if you just play.

Knowing you're an engineer (I mean, I don't know if you have the title or if that can even apply to Italians, whatever), doesn't really surprise me. I actively have to fight against my impulses to try and optimize things in order to enjoy those kinds of games. Playing it efficiently merely makes it tedious, gamey and bland. I prefer to act like an idiot on purpose/make house rules and play at a lower difficulty rather than encounter enemies with artificially boosted HP at no improvement in gameplay. Also keeping the save scumming to an absolute minimum.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: cmp on November 17, 2015, 03:57:27 am
Knowing you're an engineer (I mean, I don't know if you have the title or if that can even apply to Italians, whatever), doesn't really surprise me. I actively have to fight against my impulses to try and optimize things in order to enjoy those kinds of games.

I don't, I go for looks over stats most of the time.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 17, 2015, 05:53:41 am
It's like that even if you just play.
In Fallout 4, certainly, but that's what Banok does in every game. He appears in a thread showing his mad calculations and links to other forums/reddit where he has long pondered how to break the game mechanics, then a week later he complains about the difficulty.

Both true  :(
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 17, 2015, 10:02:16 am
Son...

Disappoint...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 17, 2015, 10:39:36 am
Get the ammunition finder perk or whatever its called. Collect absolutely everything from everywhere. Use 2 types of weapons to concerve ammo, buy ammo from the money you got from selling the ammunition you did not use. Worked rather well for me. And I finished the game with using nothing but a 10mm and a laser rifle at some rare times. Thou in my case the sneak silencerbuild was a major help in conserving ammo. Firing 100 bullets at an enemy with a weaker gun rather than just selling that 100 bullets to buy bullets for a stronger weapon that could do it with 5 shots is logically not a very solid move. :lol:

I switched to using the hand cannon Kellog drops, that shit shoots slow but hits like a tank (I have 3 points in nonautomatic pistols perk or whatever it is). Far better for ammo. I think my main problem was that I used automatic guns, low damage and lots of bullets wasted... nice balance bethesda
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 17, 2015, 03:36:19 pm
The mouse always finds the shortest path to the cheese.

I found out early on in Dark Souls that Sorcery was OP as fuck. The graph became an even more dramatic decline in difficulty than Witcher 3 Deathmarch as I cheesed every boss/mini-boss and grunt safely from a distance with ridiculously strong Soul Spears, and 2-shot Gwyn before he could hit me. Thus ended my first playthrough of Dark Souls.

Learning the optimal path in any game makes it too easy past a certain point.

Ranged/magic is just overall cheatmode for Dark Souls series. It's too bad, because I reckon you already knew boss attacks on your next replay (hopefully melee)..
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 17, 2015, 04:05:43 pm
Well... truth be told character 0 got stuck in the Great Hollow/Ash Lake before I had the Lordvessel to warp. After 20 minutes of trying to get past an invisible wall and googling the issue I gave up and made my sorcerer... character 1.

Means I did get to enjoy being terrified in the early game before discovering easy-mode. But that's the point, a lot of games have something similar that you can do build-wise/tactics-wise to completely obliterate the difficulty.

Well, Dark Souls also has that other part of community that try to make the game as difficult as possible for themselves, like kitchen ladle naked runs and other such silly builds.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 17, 2015, 05:28:05 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 17, 2015, 05:33:17 pm
Well thats just playing it wrong in that case. I quested almost 90% of the time. I took the lone wanderer perk and barely did anything in the settlement. Picked and robbed every house and guy possible on my quests. Its kinda like MGSV. You dont have to grind THAT much, if you picked up everything while on the way. Unless you went too overboard or were or too impatient.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 17, 2015, 05:40:41 pm
Salvaging kind of gives all the junk lying around a purpose. If only it wasn't such a tedious task to find what you specifically need. Just like the comic strip says, most of the time you don't get the stuff you expect to come out of a specific item. I would also be happy if they removed the weight of all that junk, just like CDPR did in Witcher 3 for crafting items.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 17, 2015, 06:18:49 pm
That cartoon doesn't reflect my experience at all, either. I built a quick shack to live in then I've only repaired and modded my PA and weapons. The rest of the time I've explored and been on quests. I know which materials I need for repairing and modding and the few times I've run out and couldn't bother to go look for something I've just bought it in bulk from a shop. Neither do companions go in my way or make me want to yell at them.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2015, 07:20:44 pm
That cartoon doesn't reflect my experience at all, either. I built a quick shack to live in then I've only repaired and modded my PA and weapons. The rest of the time I've explored and been on quests. I know which materials I need for repairing and modding and the few times I've run out and couldn't bother to go look for something I've just bought it in bulk from a shop. Neither do companions go in my way or make me want to yell at them.
So how do you rate the game? Have the quests been good? Does it feel like more than a crappy Far Cry clone? I've got 9 hours played and not really excited at all to look for quests, so far they've all been "go to X, kill Z, return here for crappy reward." RPG element really lacking, and the gunplay isn't good enough to keep me interested in the combat.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 17, 2015, 08:40:46 pm
Well, Dark Souls also has that other part of community that try to make the game as difficult as possible for themselves, like kitchen ladle naked runs and other such silly builds.

Lobos Lobos Lobos

The mouse always finds the shortest path to the cheese.

I found out early on in Dark Souls that Sorcery was OP as fuck. The graph became an even more dramatic decline in difficulty than Witcher 3 Deathmarch as I cheesed every boss/mini-boss and grunt safely from a distance with ridiculously strong Soul Spears, and 2-shot Gwyn before he could hit me. Thus ended my first playthrough of Dark Souls.

Learning the optimal path in any game makes it too easy past a certain point.

Not all games are created equal in that regard. Games such as Civilization are made for cheesing.

Well thats just playing it wrong in that case. I quested almost 90% of the time. I took the lone wanderer perk and barely did anything in the settlement. Picked and robbed every house and guy possible on my quests. Its kinda like MGSV. You dont have to grind THAT much, if you picked up everything while on the way. Unless you went too overboard or were or too impatient.

I'm doing almost nothing with settlements because... it's impossible to build anything worthwhile with Charisma and Intelligence at 1.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 17, 2015, 09:14:25 pm
I'm doing almost nothing with settlements because... it's impossible to build anything worthwhile with Charisma and Intelligence at 1.

Why didn't you go for intelligence? Thats like the most useful one in the game. Not only do you get boosted xp for everything, the perks under it have all the gunmods.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 17, 2015, 09:42:43 pm
Good news everyone!

Nexus Mod Manager supports Fallout 4 in its newest version! <3
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 17, 2015, 10:20:22 pm
Why didn't you go for intelligence? Thats like the most useful one in the game. Not only do you get boosted xp for everything, the perks under it have all the gunmods.

It sucks there's no low int dialogue options. No reason to go low int now.


Good news everyone!

Nexus Mod Manager supports Fallout 4 in its newest version! <3

And then everyone downloads Fallout 4 Animated Prostitution when it cums
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 18, 2015, 12:20:19 am
My Character.

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Heavy Combat Armor best armor. Also Institute is best Laser ammo farming(I have 800+ rounds for lasers)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jona on November 18, 2015, 12:28:03 am
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Looking at your character's hands, I can only assume that you chose the "chocolate and vanilla twist" option for your skin tone?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 18, 2015, 12:38:11 am
Good news everyone!

Nexus Mod Manager supports Fallout 4 in its newest version! <3

No Mod Organiser support? No mods.

Like seriously who uses NMM anymore?

Want an argument? It has been made by cheson, Skyrim Modding God.

Why didn't you go for intelligence? Thats like the most useful one in the game. Not only do you get boosted xp for everything, the perks under it have all the gunmods.

I'll make another character with focus on charisma, intelligence and energy weapons.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 18, 2015, 04:42:57 am
I have spent half my level up points just on raising the SPECIAL stats alone, as I aim to use perks from most stats and on top of the fact each stat gives a standard bonus anyway, for that reason I also started with 4 in every stat.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 18, 2015, 07:04:11 am
Just a few headsup, do not interact with "The Pillar of the Community" if you intend to do the Cabot house quests, seems like that is the only way you can prevent the character you're supposed to find there from not spawning, if only the console commands were like in Skyrim I could have found the npc and spawned her but it's not ...

Also, if you're stuck on one of the many Hancock quests cuz he only talks to you about being your follower, recruit him then talk to him with the normal follower interaction option. Also, you can have followers carry unlimited stuff as long as you command them to pick up something on the ground, so if they can't carry more of your shit just drop it on the ground then command them to pick it up. There's also a very easy dupeglitch, just pick up something at the same time as your follower. Make sure you collect a shit ton of aluminium, you can find a lot of it inside the Institute by just picking up almost all of their junk.

And fuck fatman Super Mutants, had to fight 4 of them at the same time.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 18, 2015, 07:30:55 am
Just a few headsup, do not interact with "The Pillar of the Community" if you intend to do the Cabot house quests, seems like that is the only way you can prevent the character you're supposed to find there from not spawning, if only the console commands were like in Skyrim I could have found the npc and spawned her but it's not ...

One curious case about that one. I actually did interact with them, I came across them by accident. So much so that I shot the whole community and killed their leader(He was trying to swindle me and it was an actual option). So about 5 days later I did Cabot quests and one quest mentioned that place and I said to myself "ah shit". But when I got there, luckly, the game had respawned the guy so I could finish the quest.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Umbra on November 18, 2015, 07:49:37 am
Good news everyone!

Nexus Mod Manager supports Fallout 4 in its newest version! <3

Yay, time to download ALL the mods
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 18, 2015, 08:46:20 am
One curious case about that one. I actually did interact with them, I came across them by accident. So much so that I shot the whole community and killed their leader(He was trying to swindle me and it was an actual option). So about 5 days later I did Cabot quests and one quest mentioned that place and I said to myself "ah shit". But when I got there, luckly, the game had respawned the guy so I could finish the quest.

Yeah the game spawns a new cult leader in case you fuck'd them up before. But the girl I was supposed to find wasn't in the room, she hadn't spawned. The questmarker then took me to her room, but she wasn't even there. Need to find her ID so I can spawn her.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 18, 2015, 10:40:53 am
Yeah the game spawns a new cult leader in case you fuck'd them up before. But the girl I was supposed to find wasn't in the room, she hadn't spawned. The questmarker then took me to her room, but she wasn't even there. Need to find her ID so I can spawn her.

Happened to me with other npcs and quests. Waiting some 24 hours or so sometimes spawns the npc you are looking for. It is as if the relevant npc takes a walk to the destination after you fast travel in an instant.

Once I tried console commands for spawning one of the quest npcs and he wasn't even responding to me. Just standing there like a mannequin.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leshma on November 18, 2015, 02:17:02 pm
Full Dialogue Interface (NewDialog English translation) by Cirosan and shadwar  (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D1235%26preview%3D&pUp=1)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 18, 2015, 02:27:44 pm
Literally spent my entire day off yesterday making 20 settlements into small self sufficient, supply lined, artillery outposts. Even tho artillery strikes seem pretty useless. And built a few big 22+ population towns to make lots of caps from shops, even tho I have completely 0 use for caps. Cause roleplay, plus I do like the game and don't want to just power through the quests.

I'm trying to think of what would be a good ruleset for a challenge run. Because mele only seems a bit boring gameplay wise, just clicking/watching vats.

Im currently leaning on, no armour values - so just stat clothes and no power armour. And only guns allowed are pistols, cause snipers/shotgun/rifles are OP. And no vats, cause that melee vats perk seems OP. Might be fun, might just be too much reloading. Probably end up using explosives alot  :lol:


edit: omg that dialogue mod, WANT
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 18, 2015, 03:22:23 pm
Full Dialogue Interface (NewDialog English translation) by Cirosan and shadwar  (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D1235%26preview%3D&pUp=1)
Thank you dearly!!1
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 18, 2015, 04:14:27 pm
Probably the most useful mod in gaming ever, due to one of the most retarded developer (or business) decisions.

Anyway I found myself getting bored of all the side stuff and just rushing through the main story. Exact same scenario as Skyrim, to be honest. Too bad this mod came out now that I'm probably close to main story end.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 18, 2015, 04:34:22 pm
Tried it for a bit now. Works flawless as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2015, 05:07:54 pm
Probably the most useful mod in gaming ever, due to one of the most retarded developer (or business) decisions.

Anyway I found myself getting bored of all the side stuff and just rushing through the main story. Exact same scenario as Skyrim, to be honest. Too bad this mod came out now that I'm probably close to main story end.

Best mod ever is animated prostitution when it arrives for Fallout 4
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 18, 2015, 06:13:57 pm
Trying to build a metal house with those corners suck ass. The floor/roof wants to go outside since they flipped the inside and outside look. Its annoying the hell out of me.

I don't know if the same problem is occuring with the wooden models but the metal corner model is flipped so I might make another house with wood while I figure out how to make it work.

I also couldn't build walls on the first layer until I figured out I could use stairs as a placeholder. Even then they didn't match up until I mismatched with a metal corner then put a wall next to it then it fit without overlaps.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 18, 2015, 06:15:24 pm
Every time I dip in here all I read about is settlement building.

Is Fallout now a strategy game?  :|
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 18, 2015, 06:17:10 pm
Trying to build a metal house with those corners suck ass. The floor/roof wants to go outside since they flipped the inside and outside look. Its annoying the hell out of me.

I don't know if the same problem is occuring with the wooden models but the metal corner model is flipped so I might make another house with wood while I figure out how to make it work.

I also couldn't build walls on the first layer until I figured out I could use stairs as a placeholder. Even then they didn't match up until I mismatched with a metal corner then put a wall next to it then it fit without overlaps.

I tried only once and this exact problem caused me to never try again. I don't see the use in it anyway.

Every time I dip in here all I read about is settlement building.

Is Fallout now a strategy game?  :|

It isn't, but obviously Bethesda thought it would be cool if they brought the whole building/crafting craze into Fallout. Tbh, crafting is good, but looking for all those crafting materials is a chore.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 18, 2015, 06:20:59 pm
Every time I dip in here all I read about is settlement building.

Is Fallout now a strategy game?  :|

Just adds a new dimension to the game, trading, protection, attacks etc etc you can turn it into a main part of the story but it is completely optional.

I've not bothered with the settlements much as I frankly canny be bothered at the moment, i've had way too much fun wandering around trying not to die. The crafting system im loving however, just got to learn to rename my guns away from the lengthy ass shit they give you 'Suppressed Penetrating Laser Firing Fire Dildo' is just too much for me to take.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 18, 2015, 06:25:24 pm
I tried only once and this exact problem caused me to never try again. I don't see the use in it anyway.

The wooden corner models have the same issue. Shit.

I wanted to try and make my own instead of using the prefabs. They suck. I made one for the ease and putting beds in but they ugly.

Dont blame you tbh.

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It isn't, but obviously Bethesda thought it would be cool if they brought the whole building/crafting craze into Fallout. Tbh, crafting is good, but looking for all those crafting materials is a chore.

I think it fits. There's a bunch of settlements out there. Might as well have your own or at least your own hideout. I think mods will make this area shine with improvements.

I like the idea of it and some of what I can do with it but it's pretty annoying in some areas.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 18, 2015, 07:20:57 pm
My main issue is the distribution of power into the self-build house.
You attach one of those connectors to a wall but for some reason it only powers half the house and so on...
That annoys me more than the unfitting corners :cry:

Edit:

lel
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 18, 2015, 07:47:51 pm
The wooden corner models have the same issue. Shit.

I wanted to try and make my own instead of using the prefabs. They suck. I made one for the ease and putting beds in but they ugly.

Dont blame you tbh.

I think it fits. There's a bunch of settlements out there. Might as well have your own or at least your own hideout. I think mods will make this area shine with improvements.

I like the idea of it and some of what I can do with it but it's pretty annoying in some areas.

I have had no problem. Don't use prefabs though. I completely build it with Wood floor, wood/metal wall, and wood (second) floor. I never use a roof, they don't allow upward expansion, nor do they allow easy connection.

The biggest complaint I have is the inability to building interior wall sections this way. You can only do it on the prefab.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 18, 2015, 08:00:46 pm
Metal Walls are clunky, the metal roof works pretty well actually. If you want to build a decent base you need to use wood. I still mostly do exploring but spent a couple of hours building a sky base over sanctuary, and even though I use wood I need more steel. I keep running out of steel and can't seem to get enough. Worse still is that for some reason my settlement seemed to have capped at 16 even though I hear people having 30 or more. Do you guys know how to get more guys?

Also praise Leshma for the amazing mod.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 18, 2015, 08:32:20 pm
Like Vibe said, dont go for any low damage automatic guns. They are pointless waste of bullets. I finished the game, I looted everything and I got like around 2k 5mm rounds, in the entire freaking game. A single decent combat with multiple oponents takes about 600 5mm-s atleast. Imagine how little you get to use it.:lol: And buying bullets for low damage per shot guns will make you instantly poor because they aint much cheaper. Nice balance indeed Buthesda.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 18, 2015, 10:10:24 pm
Like Vibe said, dont go for any low damage automatic guns. They are pointless waste of bullets. I finished the game, I looted everything and I got like around 2k 5mm rounds, in the entire freaking game. A single decent combat with multiple oponents takes about 600 5mm-s atleast. Imagine how little you get to use it.:lol: And buying bullets for low damage per shot guns will make you instantly poor because they aint much cheaper. Nice balance indeed Buthesda.

I've find more than 10k 5mm rounds in my play through and when I used a minigun it doesn't take half that many rounds. And I don't see the flawed logic in a gun that shoots more bullets costing more to reload. Honestly the most common automatic rounds I know about I find by the hundreds if not 1000s per run and sell them for a decent profit when I get back since I only used a suped up hunting rifle and 44 Revolver until after end game. Now I use Plasma and Energy weapons and that costs like 7+ caps per cartridge. Automatic weapons I've used usually come in handy when dealing with more foes in closer range, which makes sense, while dealing with them at a distance with single shot is easier. Which also makes sense.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 18, 2015, 10:20:02 pm
MF hyperbreeder Alpha

I want this ^. Most OP Gun ever invented.
Infinite Ammo. 281 DPS (maxed out Energy weapons) and has crazy crit hit chance.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/MF_Hyperbreeder_Alpha_(GRA)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: xxkaliboyx on November 18, 2015, 10:58:00 pm
Ok, I know you guys are on the edge of your seats about my progress. Fixed my 2 bugs that I got in the 1st hour of the game 2 days later. I just left it alone and came back. Turns out my "Stuck at computer terminal bug" was a FPS problem, go figure.

I finally got out of my town because I was informed building up my town doesn't do shit, damn =(

Got to Red Rocket Gas Station, started making a home for dogmeat. I keep getting sucked in! I will make it to Diamond City one day.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 19, 2015, 03:40:42 am
Found a legendary gun with unlimited ammo cap off a feral ghoul, what the shit  :lol:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Rhekimos on November 19, 2015, 05:41:36 am
Found a legendary gun with unlimited ammo cap off a feral ghoul, what the shit  :lol:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 19, 2015, 08:24:09 am
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How? I got to use the minigun like 3 times in the entire game. And I shot with small bursts.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 19, 2015, 09:28:06 am
Probably difficulty differences. I have to use 5 different guns to not run out of ammo, all of them optimized for maximum per shot damage. Though I play on Survival and venture into higher level areas a lot. Its ridiculous how much shots some enemies take from 130 damage weapons.

Does anyone know whether the Ninja perk also affects Unarmed Sneak attack damage with the same modifier as Melee? It only mentions melee for the ridiculous 10x bonuses, but it does not make sense to me that unarmed gets treated differently
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 19, 2015, 09:31:53 am
Finished main story. Meh at best. This game is worlds below Witcher 3.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: cmp on November 19, 2015, 10:23:45 am
Found a legendary gun with unlimited ammo cap off a feral ghoul, what the shit  :lol:

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And when you deplete your entire ammo pool you realize "unlimited ammo capacity" actually means "no need to reload".
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 19, 2015, 11:18:24 am
Found out the hard way that power armor modifications for stealth field and jetpack are quite useless.

The jetpack stops far before you can get to a considerable height, because you run out of AP very soon. Waste of fusion cores, regardless of how many of them you are hoarding.

The stealth field doesn't let you walk. It gets disrupted as soon as you move. It slowly drains AP as well. And the worst is that enemies still spot you in an instant even if you don't move and remain invisible.

Just a heads up. Don't try so hard to get all the relevant perks, if your only reason is to get these upgrades. It has been such a horrible disappointment for me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 19, 2015, 12:52:23 pm
Finished main story. Meh at best. This game is worlds below Witcher 3.

Which is worlds below DA:O
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 19, 2015, 02:18:21 pm
Which is worlds below DA:O

Which is worlds below Skyrim

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2015, 02:21:15 pm
Which is worlds below Skyrim

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Which is worlds below Dark souls
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 19, 2015, 02:30:55 pm
Which is worlds below Dark souls

Not sure I was a big fan of Dark Souls story tbh haha

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2015, 03:43:06 pm
Which is worlds below Skyrim

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Not sure I was a big fan of Skyrim
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2015, 04:07:14 pm
Watch, read, learn and be in awe...

It's a Masterpiece!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 19, 2015, 04:11:49 pm
Which is worlds below Dark souls

Which is worlds below Deus Ex (1)

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 19, 2015, 05:02:52 pm
Watch, read, learn and be in awe...

It's a Masterpiece!

Behold the reason why Bethesda felt it was necessary for them to add building elements: Kids... Kids everywhere with too much time on their hands and little to do.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 19, 2015, 05:14:54 pm
Just a heads up. Don't try so hard to get all the relevant perks, if your only reason is to get these upgrades. It has been such a horrible disappointment for me.

Gun mod perks are extremely important. Almost double the damage on whatever the hell gun you mod. Armorer perk is meh at best.

Finished main story. Meh at best. This game is worlds below Witcher 3.

Its really was meh. All of this shit has been said or done before. Witchers world was beautiful, gritty and a lot of quests had a lot of shocking turning points. You were always given a choice, where you could fuck up big time or fuck up slightly less. A lot of choices had unpredictable outcomes. There always was tension. Absolutely everything about FO4 was extremely predictable, because Vibe, think of the younger audiences. They need to understand too... :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2015, 05:17:59 pm

Angry joe finally popped out his review, he's always fair i feel, even when he has a bias for the game. Pretty much nails it imo, except that to me the game is worth 10$ not 50$.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 19, 2015, 05:56:22 pm
Gun mod perks are extremely important. Almost double the damage on whatever the hell gun you mod. Armorer perk is meh at best.

Correct. My modded Gauss rifle deals 195 dmg or so now. Charged shots are supposed to increase it a notch too.

... except that to me the game is worth 10$ not 50$.
I concur. As I said before, I will still pay for this one day. But only when it drops to a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 19, 2015, 07:30:35 pm
Angry joe finally popped out his review, he's always fair i feel, even when he has a bias for the game. Pretty much nails it imo, except that to me the game is worth 10$ not 50$.

Angry Joe does the best reviews, he shows no mercy. If it's a bad game he will let everyone know how bad it is, even when it's from a company he likes. Example would be Creative Assembly with Rome 2 Total War.

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He could feel it "cumming" in the AIR tonight. There's no way he did that without using Toggle no clip. Still gets respect.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 19, 2015, 07:32:39 pm
Kids... Kids everywhere with too much time on their hands and little to do.

Playing a video game falls into this category  :P  arent we all kids? Being old doesnt matter!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 19, 2015, 07:52:46 pm
We are. Nevertheless, I never thought of investing time into creating an animation of an ejaculating dick while playing a game. Now that requires some special level of vainness.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2015, 09:51:34 pm
We are. Nevertheless, I never thought of investing time into creating an animation of an ejaculating dick while playing a game. Now that requires some special level of vainness.

Its probably going to hit 200k views at least, if anything the viewers would be the kids, while the creator a genius. Ez moni.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 19, 2015, 10:18:50 pm
Its probably going to hit 200k views at least, if anything the viewers would be the kids, while the creator a genius. Ez moni.
He's not getting ad revenue for that.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 19, 2015, 10:37:19 pm
think of the younger audiences. They need to understand too... :lol:

YES - NO - MAYBE - SARCASTIC

game 3 hard
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 19, 2015, 11:15:54 pm
YES - NO - MAYBE - SARCASTIC

game 3 hard

No wep/armor degradation, very easy diff, power armor at the beginning, no hunger/thirst/rad maluses on SPECIAL, etc

3pro5me
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 19, 2015, 11:53:27 pm
He's not getting ad revenue for that.

Probably not, but ive heard people got a quick buck from making a skyrim guide video on release etc, instant 100k+ views. Even without a big channel, so i think he can enable ad revenue if he chooses to.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Umbra on November 20, 2015, 12:02:02 am
LMAO, so i went to vault 81 and when i got to the generator room my dog decided he doesent like mr rusty and attacked him. I went hostlie with everyone and just said fuck it, ill kill em and loot this tech gold mine. Killed like half of the population. "Killed" boby de luca 2 times since he isnt killable. 3rd time after i knocked him on his ass he got up and wasnt hostile to me anymore, i even sold him some jet.

So i go around and the surviving people are just going about like nothing happened. Lol all the important people are alive and i just looted and massacred but guess they got over it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Weren on November 20, 2015, 01:32:31 am
Some next level loot:

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 20, 2015, 02:26:41 am
Some next level loot:

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I want that
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 20, 2015, 02:42:37 am
Some next level loot:

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Dude, nice. Does it have a different colour flame?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: [ptx] on November 20, 2015, 07:52:34 am
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 20, 2015, 08:20:06 am
No wep/armor degradation, very easy diff, power armor at the beginning, no hunger/thirst/rad maluses on SPECIAL, etc

3pro5me

Apparently Bethesda thinks we are SPECIAL.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 20, 2015, 05:48:34 pm
So, Fallout 4 is a 7-day-to-penis game?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 20, 2015, 06:05:26 pm
Angry joe just gave me an idea. Gonna play a meleechar too. Who gets high on drugs and shanks fuckers. I noticed that some of the npcs during melee do some judomoves and flip dudes on the ground.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 20, 2015, 06:17:59 pm
Just finished the main storyline, siding with the Institute. And man, what a bad ending.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 20, 2015, 06:53:17 pm
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Thats a big downside I just realised.

While you have many individual quests in FO 3 and NV, its just generic shit mostly now.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on November 20, 2015, 08:33:40 pm
might be good to put that into spoilers, i dont think everyones finished with the main story

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tagora on November 21, 2015, 06:20:11 am
Just finished the main storyline, siding with the Institute. And man, what a bad ending.

damn d4wg thx for spoiling my shit
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 21, 2015, 07:37:37 am
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 21, 2015, 10:36:53 am
I stuck with BoS and kind of regretted it because I ended up fully destroying the other two factions. But it looks like the other main factions also make you do the same.

Come on Bethesda. You could actually have given us real options. Imho they dumbed down the endgame paths just like they did it with the dialogue choices.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 21, 2015, 11:44:10 am
I knew instantly id want to go against the BoS. The BoS has kinda the strongest troops in the game and their assaultsquads fly around the Commonwealth. I figured it be the most fun and challenging to destroy them. And it was.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 21, 2015, 11:55:55 am
All 3 factions are plain nutjobs (Minutemen being passive and not actually counting as a faction). They all claim to want the best for mankind but employ the wackiest methods to reach that goal. BoS still seemed to be the best choice or the lesser evil. I guess Maxon's tirade about how technology was being misused to harm rather than do good was my reason to go with them.

I still hate it that picking one of the factions means obliterating the two others though.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tibe on November 21, 2015, 12:09:06 pm
Thats kinda the whole point of the games plots these days. No full on evil and no full on good. Only people thinking that they are doing whats necessary.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 21, 2015, 01:15:40 pm
That's cos black and white villains isn't cool any more.

It's why every single fucking game is multiple choice open world. Sometimes a simple straight line story is great (The Last of Us).

It's all open world with multiple grey questlines where you don't know if anyone is good or evil, just "agendas".
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mala on November 21, 2015, 02:32:53 pm
might be good to put that into spoilers, i dont think everyones finished with the main story

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the minutemen ending is quite neutral. the most stays as it is.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 21, 2015, 06:19:49 pm
I enjoy the BoS generic quests, showing fanatical young squires how to kill mutans and raider trash, and massacring innocent farmers and expropriating their produce in the name of the greater cause. In fact, I think FO4 has the best portrayal of the BoS of any Fallout game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: 722_ on November 21, 2015, 08:20:03 pm
All 3 factions are plain nutjobs (Minutemen being passive and not actually counting as a faction). They all claim to want the best for mankind but employ the wackiest methods to reach that goal. BoS still seemed to be the best choice or the lesser evil. I guess Maxon's tirade about how technology was being misused to harm rather than do good was my reason to go with them.

I still hate it that picking one of the factions means obliterating the two others though.

Yea i picked institute after the "we are good really" speech, then next thing they are telling me i have to kill everyone else because its the only way
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 21, 2015, 10:47:59 pm

A mod that some people like myself might find useful, it decodes the dialog system into actual sentences. Why the hell can't they of just done this in the first place.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D1235%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D3410725&pUp=1
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on November 21, 2015, 10:53:13 pm
Made my second char, going to re-play focusing on "teamwork" with followers and automatic weapons. Have a high Charisma and Intelligence this time.
Looking forward to DLCs and mods. Perks need some balancing it seems - too many nearly useless or very situational, while some are hard to skip for any char. Makes replay value somewhat lower compared to other Bethesda games...

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Cherry Doll - made her as hot as i could :)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jarlek on November 21, 2015, 11:06:48 pm
Full Dialogue Interface (NewDialog English translation) by Cirosan and shadwar  (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D1235%26preview%3D&pUp=1)
A mod that some people like myself might find useful, it decodes the dialog system into actual sentences. Why the hell can't they of just done this in the first place.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?tab=4&&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fcomments%2F%3Fmod_id%3D1235%26page%3D1%26sort%3DDESC%26pid%3D0%26thread_id%3D3410725&pUp=1
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 22, 2015, 03:31:46 pm
So anyone got the 2077 or 2076 world championship baseball bat (or whatever the fuck its called), gives you a slight chance to send enemies flying when you hit them.

Gave this to a companion, just running around smacking things when suddenly loud cheers and clapping goes off and i see this super mutant flying backwards  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 22, 2015, 04:05:02 pm

This makes me wanna play the game, and become the ultimate junkie. So many drugs in fo4 Kreygasm


Also someone fixed the plastic face animations to realistic immersive ones

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 22, 2015, 04:22:29 pm
So anyone got the 2077 or 2076 world championship baseball bat (or whatever the fuck its called), gives you a slight chance to send enemies flying when you hit them.

Gave this to a companion, just running around smacking things when suddenly loud cheers and clapping goes off and i see this super mutant flying backwards  :lol:
Used it for a bit just to see this happens, but after killing like 30 things without seeing it trigger once, I switched back to the Grognak Axe.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kadeth on November 23, 2015, 12:03:38 am
Modified super sledge master race  :)

Well, here's my 2 cents after 70+ hours:


Still a good game IMO. The Commonwealth is a bit bland in some areas, but I'm having fun exploring it. For me, it's not as good as New Vegas, and it's certainly no where near the quality of the first 2 games (but I'm a nostalgic fan boy).

7.5/10 Nuka Colas

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 23, 2015, 12:28:31 am
Tried the ripper? I think it's the most effective of the high-tier melee weapons (for example Shishkebab, Grognark's Axe, Super Sledge, Kremvh's Tooth etc.) because it does continual damage with no down time therefore multiplying the chance for disarming and staggering opponents (especially if you aim for the head which is easy with this type of attack). The low base damage is an illusion because of its very fast attack speed and constant damage output. Modded and with melee perks and high strength it's often the strongest weapon in my arsenal, and I'm otherwise focusing on pistols and rifles.

Of course, the super sledge looks cool and is fun to use, but the ripper feels like using the chainsaw in Doom II except that in FO4 you actually saw things into little pieces.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Artyem on November 23, 2015, 02:14:06 am
Modified super sledge master race  :)

Well, here's my 2 cents after 70+ hours:

  • Storyline was disappointing (was anyone surprised? It's a Bethesda game).
  • Combat kinda sucks. Although I'm playing pure melee. I've heard the gun play is alright.
  • There are some annoying bugs and glitches like getting stuck at terminals (was anyone surprised? It's a Bethesda game).
  • The map is fun to explore for the most part, with a few hidden gems.
  • Graphics are really nice in some areas, although terrible in others.
  • Too many quests to go somewhere and kill everything.
  • Dialogue options suck, especially compared to the first 2 games.

Still a good game IMO. The Commonwealth is a bit bland in some areas, but I'm having fun exploring it. For me, it's not as good as New Vegas, and it's certainly no where near the quality of the first 2 games (but I'm a nostalgic fan boy).

7.5/10 Nuka Colas

I agree with this review for the most part.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 23, 2015, 06:25:44 am
Just find an enchanted laser pistol, chance to stagger enemies. Put on an auto barrel and beam splitter. Got find something big to test this on now.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 23, 2015, 12:02:41 pm

Robbaz built a cool prison
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: 722_ on November 23, 2015, 12:25:30 pm
Made my second char, going to re-play focusing on "teamwork" with followers and automatic weapons. Have a high Charisma and Intelligence this time.
Looking forward to DLCs and mods. Perks need some balancing it seems - too many nearly useless or very situational, while some are hard to skip for any char. Makes replay value somewhat lower compared to other Bethesda games...

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Cherry Doll - made her as hot as i could :)

normal face? disappointing
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on November 23, 2015, 02:36:51 pm
Tried the ripper? I think it's the most effective of the high-tier melee weapons (for example Shishkebab, Grognark's Axe, Super Sledge, Kremvh's Tooth etc.) because it does continual damage with no down time therefore multiplying the chance for disarming and staggering opponents (especially if you aim for the head which is easy with this type of attack). The low base damage is an illusion because of its very fast attack speed and constant damage output. Modded and with melee perks and high strength it's often the strongest weapon in my arsenal, and I'm otherwise focusing on pistols and rifles.

Of course, the super sledge looks cool and is fun to use, but the ripper feels like using the chainsaw in Doom II except that in FO4 you actually saw things into little pieces.
Well, I went for a VATS-based full melee build, and Super Sledge feels like the best choice because of its high base damage. With a Super Sledge, Sneak, Ninja and Blitz I have trouble finding anyone that actually takes more than one sneak hit. Combat is a massive wheel of cheese now on Survival difficulty, and I haven't even gotten the x10 Melee damage bonus from Ninja yet.

Blitz is way more retarded than I expected. Melee was kind of fun until I got it. It was strong, but at least I had to use cover. kiting and sneaking occasionally to prevent being shot at by everyone at the same time.  I expected Blitz to up the VATS distance to like 5 meters max, but its more like 10 meters and it is just a teleport. Now I  just enter a room, queue up 4 hits and Sneak attack 4 enemies, during all of which I seem to be invincible to damage. Anyone knows what the strongest opponent in the game is? I need to find out whether I can one-shot it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 23, 2015, 04:00:32 pm
Legendary Behemoth?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 23, 2015, 08:06:02 pm
Well, I went for a VATS-based full melee build, and Super Sledge feels like the best choice because of its high base damage. With a Super Sledge, Sneak, Ninja and Blitz I have trouble finding anyone that actually takes more than one sneak hit. Combat is a massive wheel of cheese now on Survival difficulty, and I haven't even gotten the x10 Melee damage bonus from Ninja yet.
Yeah, the ripper is definitely for a non-sneak, non-VATS build.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 23, 2015, 08:28:09 pm
I found this. It is extremely useful against all enemies other than robots.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 23, 2015, 08:30:20 pm
It seems someone found the origin of my bug : even if a player can't scrap legendary items, if you lack the ressources to craft something, the game is gonna destroy your gear to get that missing junk to craft.

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Bethesda, please.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 23, 2015, 08:32:09 pm
I'm doing a no guns, no powerarmour - mele surival replay. and has been gruelling at times but pretty hilarious also for when you get bored of the gunplay.

Things got bit easier once I found a switchblade with double dmg vs full health. Just walked up to 5 guys I needed to kill went into vats, and put an attack on each then sit back and watch the show ;)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 24, 2015, 12:25:01 am
How can you guys even enjoy this while using VATS? There's a perfectly okay shooter out there.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 24, 2015, 01:53:51 am
I only use(d) VATS when I was clearly fucked/not able to land a shot. RNG sometimes saves my arse, but relying on it causes more harm than good on survival I guess.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 24, 2015, 04:10:12 am
How can you guys even enjoy this while using VATS? There's a perfectly okay shooter out there.
Depends on your definition of "okay." VATS at least makes it somewhat different, without VATS is just a subpar shooter not much different from F3.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 24, 2015, 04:18:53 am
Anyone knows what the strongest opponent in the game is? I need to find out whether I can one-shot it.

I would think it's some npc called "clint", i've not read any info on this character but i watched a highlight on twitch of someone sneak attacking him with a VATS Critical shot using a fat man, it damaged him only 60% something around that, on survival difficulty. Pretty crazy.

Link to video is here

http://www.twitch.tv/angryjoeshow/v/26073351
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Artyem on November 24, 2015, 10:15:07 am
Anybody else disappointed that you can't REALLY do much with the minutemen?  I was hoping I could make them a proper force to be reckoned with, but I never really got the feeling that anything I did with them was really important.  Yeah, sure, you can shoot a flare into the sky and have a slim chance of having a few dudes with pipe rifles and laser muskets come running to your help, but I want to see proper minutemen patrols and shit.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 24, 2015, 10:24:48 am
Minutemen you only come across rarely and only around settlements that you've built / secured (at least I never met anyone outside of those areas), they don't have random map events like BoS and those map events become kinda annoying once you become their enemy, like dragons in Skyrim, annoying after the first few. Only thing the Minutemen got is artillery, which pretty much works like your shitty call for help flares. Fuck the Minutemen, should never have gone against the Brotherhood :(
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tagora on November 24, 2015, 07:44:44 pm
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[Danger]

shitpost ahead!

tl;dr at bottom.

From what I've researched, I've deduced that shadow draw distance, and object fade distance to a lesser extent, are the primary culprits in loss of framerate.

For instance, I have a high-end PC like a lot of people do, and when I go into Boston I get fps drops down to 30 fps sometimes. Otherwise I can run everything on ultra. But in Boston I have to turn down my settings a ton. Why is this? Is it just for Nvidia users? Is this going to get patched? Can someone with a little more knowledge than I explain what's going on here and perhaps offer a solution?

I would really like to keep shadow draw distance at 9000 or so to make the look at least a little decent, but when I go into boston I have to turn it down to like 4000. Once you see my specs you'll see why this is more than a little rediculous.

Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K Haswell @ 4.0 GHZ
GPU: Evga GeForce 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0
MOBO: MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
Memory: G. Skill 8 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz

tl;dr why are high-end pc users suffering from shitty framerate in Boston? Is there a fix? Will it get patched? Is there a mod I don't know of that I should download? Can any of these questions actually be answered or did Bethesda just release a fundamentally broken game?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on November 24, 2015, 07:58:29 pm
How can you guys even enjoy this while using VATS? There's a perfectly okay shooter out there.

I agree playing like a FPS is more fun, but eventually it gets boring. And new stupid game mechanics like crit bar only does anything when you use vats. plus if you are playing melee only then going non vats doesn't add to the gameplay.

so if you want to play with mele or luck stat then vats vats vats. otherwise yeah just pew pew.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 24, 2015, 08:23:11 pm
shadow draw distance, and object fade distance to a lesser extent, are the primary culprits in loss of framerate.

Did you try lowering those and check the Boston issue?

I know it sounds bad to diminish whole game quality for certain cluttered regions to be playable, but I'm pretty sure you can find an enjoyable graphic option sweet-spot for your PC.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 24, 2015, 08:45:17 pm
Soooo ... I just found a band of Raiders who were speaking Norwegian, even the subtitles were in Norwegian. Edit: oh, and they were all ghouls.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 24, 2015, 09:07:51 pm
Soooo ... I just found a band of Raiders who were speaking Norwegian, even the subtitles were in Norwegian. Edit: oh, and they were all ghouls.

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might have been some polar expedition or something :D  i find pirate robots or transgender robots more fun though
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 24, 2015, 09:08:34 pm
I would think it's some npc called "clint", i've not read any info on this character but i watched a highlight on twitch of someone sneak attacking him with a VATS Critical shot using a fat man, it damaged him only 60% something around that, on survival difficulty. Pretty crazy.
I've met him and his cronies, their territory is around Quincy Ruins, in the southern part of the map, south-west of the Atom Cats.

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Shadow draw distance is the main culprit for me in that one area aswell, around the towers. I'm also using a Nvidia card. Hopefully it will get optimized.

Btw. nothing to do with the above but if anyone is experiencing it I got completely rid of the game's wierd micro stutter (which appears despite stable fps) by adding 'iFPSClamp=60' under 'general' in the ini but it seems that would bug maglocks. I've found another solution though, with no complications, adding 'bMaximizeWindow=0 bBorderless=1 bFull Screen=0 iSize H=1080 iSize W=1920' to the ini under 'display', forcing the game to run in borderless windowed mode (you may have to set it in the launcher first aswell). Made my game run a lot sleeker for some reason.

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 24, 2015, 10:13:06 pm
Soooo ... I just found a band of Raiders who were speaking Norwegian, even the subtitles were in Norwegian. Edit: oh, and they were all ghouls.

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Aye I found that ship as well, thought my game was fucking up haha.

Didn't realise they were ghouls though, not many of their heads were left intact
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Artyem on November 24, 2015, 10:31:39 pm
Also, if you guys haven't already, go to the piers / docks directly east of the Shamrock Taphouse just east of Goodneighbor.  Talk to the kid to start the quest.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jarlek on November 24, 2015, 11:40:57 pm
Soooo ... I just found a band of Raiders who were speaking Norwegian, even the subtitles were in Norwegian. Edit: oh, and they were all ghouls.

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Lolwut?

Guess I'm beelining there now :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 24, 2015, 11:52:23 pm
So,

with that, the only country in Europe that is confirmed to exist at 2077 is Norway.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on November 25, 2015, 12:31:17 am
Even if the European commonwealth (in fallout lore) went into a civil war, the former countries existed most likely until 2077. Don't ask me what the hell Norwegians are doing in America tho.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kadeth on November 25, 2015, 12:42:13 am
Is it just for Nvidia users? Is this going to get patched?

It's not just an Nvidia issue, I have the exact same problem with an AMD R9 280x.

I heard there was going to be a patch released this week, but I'm not sure if it fixes any performance issues.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 25, 2015, 12:43:16 am
So even if I really didn't want to, I romanced this Danse guy from the Brotherhood, so that I could get his companion perk. I was hoping to forget about the weirdness of the whole thing. And I did actually.
Until this one time when I wanted to take a nap at the Sanctuary. I wake up and what do I see? Danse lays right next to me and with a straight-up rape face he smoothly says "Ad Victoriam" as I am getting up. God, I don't even want to know what happened while I was sleeping. All I know is that I feel violated.

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Damn Bethesda. Why did you guys have to add so much gayness to the companion system?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: cmp on November 25, 2015, 04:03:07 am
So even if I really didn't want to, I romanced this Danse guy from the Brotherhood, so that I could get his companion perk.

You don't need to romance them to get the perk.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Zorak on November 25, 2015, 04:19:49 am
You don't need to romance them to get the perk.


Awkward
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 25, 2015, 05:22:09 am
So even if I really didn't want to, I romanced this Danse guy from the Brotherhood, so that I could get his companion perk. I was hoping to forget about the weirdness of the whole thing. And I did actually.
Until this one time when I wanted to take a nap at the Sanctuary. I wake up and what do I see? Danse lays right next to me and with a straight-up rape face he smoothly says "Ad Victoriam" as I am getting up. God, I don't even want to know what happened while I was sleeping. All I know is that I feel violated.

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Damn Bethesda. Why did you guys have to add so much gayness to the companion system?

Taking dick for the brotherhood.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 25, 2015, 10:49:46 am
I could romance Hancock but chose not too, would be way too much. Who knows what effects a ghoul dick can have on your asshole.  :|

Do dicks still work after heavy radiation?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 25, 2015, 11:10:05 am
[Caution]
...
[Danger]

shitpost ahead!

tl;dr at bottom.

From what I've researched, I've deduced that shadow draw distance, and object fade distance to a lesser extent, are the primary culprits in loss of framerate.

For instance, I have a high-end PC like a lot of people do, and when I go into Boston I get fps drops down to 30 fps sometimes. Otherwise I can run everything on ultra. But in Boston I have to turn down my settings a ton. Why is this? Is it just for Nvidia users? Is this going to get patched? Can someone with a little more knowledge than I explain what's going on here and perhaps offer a solution?

I would really like to keep shadow draw distance at 9000 or so to make the look at least a little decent, but when I go into boston I have to turn it down to like 4000. Once you see my specs you'll see why this is more than a little rediculous.

Specs:

CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K Haswell @ 4.0 GHZ
GPU: Evga GeForce 980 Ti SC+ ACX 2.0
MOBO: MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
Memory: G. Skill 8 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz

tl;dr why are high-end pc users suffering from shitty framerate in Boston? Is there a fix? Will it get patched? Is there a mod I don't know of that I should download? Can any of these questions actually be answered or did Bethesda just release a fundamentally broken game?

I have almost the exact same setup except I have 16GB 1866mhz Corsair Dominator RAM and mine is installed on a Samsung 850 EVO SSD and I haven't had these issues. Mine has run pretty damn well.

EDIT: In fact I'm running it on 1440p as well so I'm really not sure where the problems are coming from, it could potentially be the SSD as I know a few of the Arkham Knight performance issues were due to the hard drive.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 25, 2015, 11:31:18 am
This aims to optimize the textures in size w/o any visible quality loss (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1204/?)
I gained a few fps and can't see a difference.

And I am considering to restart with this one :D
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2699/?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 25, 2015, 12:20:40 pm
You don't need to romance them to get the perk.

I am playing solo right now. So, yes, I had to. Doing so permanently gives you the perk without having to have the companion by your side.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Jarlek on November 25, 2015, 01:03:30 pm
I am playing solo right now. So, yes, I had to. Doing so permanently gives you the perk without having to have the companion by your side.
I still got prestons perk without romancing him. Just got him maxed relationship lvl then ditched his ass at the castle.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 25, 2015, 01:24:34 pm
I still got prestons perk without romancing him. Just got him maxed relationship lvl then ditched his ass at the castle.

Now that's weird. If this really is the case, it only means that I had some brotherly sexy time and Kuoin received a legendary glowing hard-on from his companion for no reason :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 25, 2015, 01:40:11 pm
Some nice, deep role-play, Flockula.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 25, 2015, 02:35:43 pm
I think I could do fine without the "deep" part, but it is so very late right now :D
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Piok on November 25, 2015, 06:31:05 pm
So far playing with only these mods:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/333/?
and
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/191/?

My second Try.
This time as sneaky Jet using autoweapons merc suitable for Institute dirty work.
Hope something like FO3 FWE will appear to replace Vats with Ap consuming Slowmo and other nice FPS features.

First try was something like minuteman fanboy transformed to BOS fanatic :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on November 25, 2015, 08:37:37 pm
So I finally finished my review of Fallout 4. If you're interested take a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gtUUZkyzm0
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 25, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/818/? unlimited settlement size. Thank god, wasn't even half finished with setting up a wall and I hit max size.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 25, 2015, 11:09:00 pm
Improves the look of the landscapes by ALOT and claims to also improve performance.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1769/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D1769&pUp=1

This one adds the roads to the pip boy map, so it's easier to navigate.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1215/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Ffallout4%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D1215&pUp=1

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on November 25, 2015, 11:43:59 pm
This is what will save Fallout 4... mods. Its fun to play but its not grabbing me. Even skyrim grabbed me and I played it for a while. I haven't even touched fallout 4 over the last few days. Everything seems half assed.

Settlements are cool but have issues and seem mostly for the player's benefit that really liked minecraft with no real consequence or addition to the game world. The factions seem hollow. The story is meh at best. Where it shines is where fallout has always shined and that's exploration. I do like finding random vaults and locations in the Commonwealth.

Really think they could have added a lot to the story and to the benefit of settlements to where they become more than a thing to show friends and make a funny youtube video of a concentration camp. I really thought I was going to have an army when I helped the minutemen that I was going to be counting on later for a showdown with other factions. Didn't know how I'd use them but I thought it'd be more than it was. My own fault for expecting more really.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Rhekimos on November 26, 2015, 01:25:39 pm
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?

Not sure if this has been posted here yet.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Laufknoten on November 26, 2015, 02:02:41 pm
I'll just wait for a mod before really bothering with settlement building. The native system isn't that bad despite all it's flaws but I know modders will make something immensely better.

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 26, 2015, 02:30:02 pm
since you can bang companions in fallout 4 i was wondering can i somehow bang my dog?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 26, 2015, 03:30:05 pm
since you can bang companions in fallout 4 i was wondering can i somehow bang my dog?

Wait for dog-bang mod with full animation and features.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 26, 2015, 04:27:46 pm
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please Piper, im tired of your fucking shit, leave me the hell alone.  Once i stick my dick in you im done, off to Finch's Farm or some other shit hole.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 26, 2015, 04:51:04 pm
Why don't you get a proper good Irish lass like Cait instead, she urges you to do psycho and violent crime and turned my otherwise stringent Lawful Evil BoS paladin to a Chaotic Evil criminal for a while. Paladin Danse being homo-erotic towards him and disliking the drug abuse didn't help either, and admittedly he was set on a dark path from the moment the Brotherhood sent him out to expropriate wheat from local farmers (and it ended in the first of many civilian bloodbaths). Next thing he was killing npcs he met in the wasteland just for the heck of it. He returned to the fold though and ended his career turning all that energy into fighting for 'the cause', killing his best friend when he turned out to be one of the enemy, destroying the Railroad (which much glee), killing his son and leaving his 'other son' to die horribly, then blowing up half the city. 
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Laufknoten on November 26, 2015, 05:06:28 pm
Why don't you get a proper good Irish lass like Cait instead, she urges you to do psycho and violent crime and turned my otherwise stringent Lawful Evil BoS paladin to a Chaotic Evil criminal for a while. Paladin Danse being homo-erotic towards him and disliking the drug abuse didn't help either, and admittedly he was set on a dark path from the moment the Brotherhood sent him out to expropriate wheat from local farmers (and it ended in the first of many civilian bloodbaths). Next thing he was killing npcs he met in the wasteland just for the heck of it. He returned to the fold though and ended his career turning all that energy into fighting for 'the cause', killing his best friend when he turned out to be one of the enemy, destroying the Railroad (which much glee), killing his son and leaving his 'other son' to die horribly, then blowing up half the city.
Slight spoiler about Cait:
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Also I think I might got friendzoned by Cait. I had the option to "flirt" with her once but I thought that it won't work because of my low charisma so I decided to try it later on with some CHR boosting gear.
But I don't seem to get the option anymore...
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 26, 2015, 05:24:58 pm
I'm saving her for my new Institute henchman character. I quite like her. In general I think they've done a good job with companions, though I haven't really had much to do with either Piper or Preston.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 26, 2015, 08:01:25 pm
Wait for dog-bang mod with full animation and features.
Gonna be more popular than Berenger's fully animated prostitution. Such are the times...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 26, 2015, 08:19:51 pm
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Would be epic if it did it Castlevania style, pausing the game and writing it slowly on screen every single time. At least Binding of Isaac had the balls to do that. Mc Millen is more meme-aware than the guys at Gearbox, and that's not something I say lightly.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 26, 2015, 08:21:32 pm
Piper annoyed me the moment the gate to Diamond City opened, fuck that bitch. Cait is a pretty good companion, saved me from leveling up lockpick perk.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 26, 2015, 09:50:56 pm
Same here, didn't do any of her quests but with my new character I've decided to give her the benefit of the doubt. I like Nick Valentine, a film noir synth PI fits the Blade Runner theme.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 26, 2015, 10:31:55 pm
Gonna be more popular than Berenger's fully animated prostitution. Such are the times...

Pretty sure animated prostitution allowed creatures as well. Although that was a sub-mod.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 26, 2015, 11:15:06 pm
Remember the guy who made the original animated prostitution mod kept complaining people wrote to him about adding children to his mod. That's the world, folks!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: AntiBlitz on November 26, 2015, 11:55:02 pm
Would be epic if it did it Castlevania style, pausing the game and writing it slowly on screen every single time. At least Binding of Isaac had the balls to do that. Mc Millen is more meme-aware than the guys at Gearbox, and that's not something I say lightly.

oh its just as annoying, you see anytime you get close to her, the middle of combat, riding in a fucking elevator, sneaking is a huge one, anything thats in close proximity.  There she is, asking you that goddamn question, and its draws your characters focus into the chat dialogue menu.  Ive literally been in the middle of scoping up a shot to a raiders head and it drew my attention away.  Its horrible and needs to be fixed, thankfully, im nearly done with her affinity and then she will be sent to the mines to work. 

Type "getav CA_affinity" while a companion is following you to see the affinity level of the character.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Artyem on November 27, 2015, 12:45:02 am
Turn off the dialogue camera you fucking plebs.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 27, 2015, 01:53:44 pm
Remember the guy who made the original animated prostitution mod kept complaining people wrote to him about adding children to his mod. That's the world, folks!

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 27, 2015, 04:22:18 pm
Soooo ... I just found a band of Raiders who were speaking Norwegian, even the subtitles were in Norwegian. Edit: oh, and they were all ghouls.

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 27, 2015, 04:38:11 pm
Yeah I also read that up on the wiki after I encountered them R.I.P ;_;
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 27, 2015, 05:36:37 pm
Since I know now, I'll leave them be!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 27, 2015, 05:51:37 pm
Since I know now, I'll leave them be!

Everything tagged "Raider" shall die.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 27, 2015, 05:55:28 pm
Everything tagged "Raider" shall die.
You're a very mean person. Oberyn agrees with me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 27, 2015, 07:14:03 pm
I killed the last of the Norwegians, how will we colonize Greenland now!
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 27, 2015, 07:47:26 pm
Shit. That really broke my heart. These guys survived since the Great War till one day a mean motherfucker in power armor appears on their deck and ruthlessly ends their lives.

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Once again you win Bethesda. I wonder how many more times you inadvertently made me commit horrible crimes.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Tagora on November 27, 2015, 08:25:08 pm
So I tried the fps dynamic shadows mod that claims to increase/decrease shadow draw distance on the fly.  I thought it was working until I went east of Diamond City again with it turned on this time.  It doesn't seem to visibly change the shadow draw distance, at least from my perspective.  I'm not completely convinced either way, though. I could just be missing something.

Can someone who has good hardware but is also suffering from FPS drops in Boston install this?  Here's the link: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1822/?

I want to see if it actually works for other people or not.  Also, you want to download it from here (http://www.dev-c.com/fallout4/shadowboost/).

I tried most of the optimized texture mods to no avail.  Didn't change FPS at all.  I didn't really expect it to anyway because textures are the problem with my fps drops. 
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 27, 2015, 10:33:03 pm
I run the game on medium settings now instead of worrying about going through that area of Boston, it's a shame but the game has some pretty good-looking medium settings (textures still on high etc.).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 12:25:50 am
You're a very mean person. Oberyn agrees with me.

That's strange. Oberyn would probably approve the very Randian principle of killing everything which has "Raider" in its name.

I run the game on medium settings now instead of worrying about going through that area of Boston, it's a shame but the game has some pretty good-looking medium settings (textures still on high etc.).

50FPS right outside of Goodneighbour best 980 Ti on the market not enough cry evrytiem
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 28, 2015, 01:53:51 am
Once again you win Bethesda. I wonder how many more times you inadvertently made me commit horrible crimes.

I'm pretty happy about those kind of events in Fallout 4. There is too many good feels, its hard to roleplay a motherfucker.


50FPS right outside of Goodneighbour best 980 Ti on the market not enough cry evrytiem

My 4yo PC is barely handling Fallout 4, but I was lucky (again) and found some 30-60 FPS (there is the odd 10 FPS in very crowded space, hard to fight then...) sweet spot with good quality.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2015, 02:47:51 am
What the fuck, how much charisma does it take to flirt with Cait? I have 4CHA and Lady Killer and keep failing the check.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 03:37:44 am
Playing with Charisma 1 has the advantage that I don't even bother to ask myself such questions.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 28, 2015, 08:50:23 am
I'm pretty happy about those kind of events in Fallout 4. There is too many good feels, its hard to roleplay a motherfucker.

Whenever I start an rpg, I start with intentions of doing something entirely different. Roleplaying the mean son of a bitch is the obvious choice of course. Unfortunately I always end up being the nice do-gooder. I have no idea why I can't relax and wreak some artificial havoc.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2015, 09:55:23 am
That's strange. Oberyn would probably approve the very Randian principle of killing everything which has "Raider" in its name.
Fair enough :lol:

Whenever I start an rpg, I start with intentions of doing something entirely different. Roleplaying the mean son of a bitch is the obvious choice of course. Unfortunately I always end up being the nice do-gooder. I have no idea why I can't relax and wreak some artificial havoc.
Ikr. Happens to me too.
Good thing that you hardly have a chance to be an asshole in F4...  :?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2015, 11:43:35 am
I usually start a clean slate and then let my experiences form my character. My last character was pretty righteous to begin with but then had to do some pretty terrible things that made him emotionally handicapped, betrayal, forced to murder innocents etc. My current character is an unscrupulous merc who've been doing anything for the right price, lying, stealing, cheating and murdering his way through Diamond City and Goodneighbour, for caps or chems, Cait being there to really get the worst out in him, but now it seems he's emotionally maturing as he learns more about her past struggles, and is forming a stronger bond with her (and with the bartender in the Dugout Inn, being of Russian descent like himself), this could be a stepping stone to feel involved in certain communities, or not, maybe it'll just be the two of them against the world. His eyes is set on the Institute and the fat contracts that must be offered there, perhaps he'll like the the place (probably not, though, too bright). All the psycho and buffout also takes its toll, especially after robbing those chem dealers and getting their entire stash (and killing his then-partner for his cut).

I played through the Mass Effect series once with the same character, an initially Paragon Shephard, but somewhere in the middle of ME2 it just made no sense for him to choose those altruistic, pacifistic, irrationally good dialogue choices when he had killed literally thousands upon thousands of humans and aliens, destroyed entire planets etc. he was bound to have become mostly detached from the suffering of others. Why save the council that has already betrayed you once, why spare the crying alien begging for her life when she has just jeopardized your entire mission, why trust this entire race that has in the past shown to be out of control, just shoot and ask questions later, life is cheap in the galactic scale of things.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 28, 2015, 12:52:48 pm
Whenever I start an rpg, I start with intentions of doing something entirely different. Roleplaying the mean son of a bitch is the obvious choice of course. Unfortunately I always end up being the nice do-gooder. I have no idea why I can't relax and wreak some artificial havoc.
pretty much the same for me, no matter what i do i always end up being the good guy :) i guess its my kind heart irl
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2015, 01:01:55 pm
Seems it took one more point in Lady Killer to successfully flirt with Cait.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2015, 01:15:35 pm
pretty much the same for me, no matter what i do i always end up being the good guy :) i guess its my kind heart irl
no.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 01:32:49 pm
Since the very beginning of these "moral" decisions in games, the good ones have always paid vastly more than the bad ones, with few exceptions. In such games a character motivated by personal profit will behave like a do-gooder. Makes no fucking sense. On top of that, these games generally lack some form of adversity for the player, Fallout 4 is no different. Most people will naturally prefer doing the good things unless they feel somehow handicapped by that in an environment that punishes those handicaps harshly.

I think the Metro games actually did this very nicely. Being kind has a tendency of fucking you over in those games, and there are no rewards other than "the good ending".

By comparison in Fallout 4 I really do not give a shit about losing on a thousand caps. I'll make that eventually.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 28, 2015, 01:48:58 pm
Whenever I start an rpg, I start with intentions of doing something entirely different. Roleplaying the mean son of a bitch is the obvious choice of course. Unfortunately I always end up being the nice do-gooder. I have no idea why I can't relax and wreak some artificial havoc.

I'm a bit like you, but... I think its a matter of the game encouraging us to be good.
The narration can limit us, because even if there is an available evil choice, its either so heart-breaking or downright nonsensical (or both) to be the bad guy. I feel like that in FO4, note that I am not so far in the story.

Having played games like Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Divinity, Dragon Age, the Witcher.... In those games I could roleplay the average joe (meaning, nor downright evil maniac nor the paragon of truth) and have lots of reasons to be the bad guy at times, because there was has much reasons going one way or the other.
In those games, if you wanted to be a completely badass motherfucking son of a demon spawn, you could easily and feel good about it really!

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Fallout 4 falls short in terms of moral choice up to where I'm at, the story behind the main character is already defined and the different quests always kind of forces us to do the right thing.


The most evilest thing I did yet:

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Well, this gives me hope on the future of my FO4 campaign then, thanks!
Also I like your gaming mindset  :)  ME FTW.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on November 28, 2015, 03:33:43 pm
I PoE you can definitely be literally the worst person but it doesn't really make a lot of sense. In fact it only does make sense within the retarded objective morality system of D&D-style games. It's still impossible to rationalize your evil choices because the game doesn't create the necessary environment. You can be evil for evil's sake like an old cartoon villain.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 28, 2015, 07:25:37 pm
I think Kafein is right about this. It is because being mean hardly ever makes any contribution to what you get out of the game in most cases. If anything, it restricts the content made available to you. I don't think it is so much about being a kind person irl. That would be too pretentious anyway.

The classical disposition matrix of games like Neverwinter don't do the player any justice either. They only put you in a mold, which you aren't free to break.

Being a recent example, I think Witcher 3 deserves a mention here. Surely not every decision you made mattered and the whole evil/good roleplaying choice wasn't there, but you still had the option to resolve things your way or be a dick in minor or major events. That didn't really prevent you from getting the most out of the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 28, 2015, 07:48:48 pm
Good thing that you hardly have a chance to be an asshole in F4...  :?
Yeah, it's a shame FO4 has so few RPG mechanics in its story line and dialogue, most of the roleplay options in this game are off-script. It seems Bethesda has truly given up on this part of the genre.

I hope Obsidian gets the opportunity to make a sequel to New Vegas, they know how to make proper branching dialogue and quest lines.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 28, 2015, 08:13:11 pm
It is because being mean hardly ever makes any contribution to what you get out of the game in most cases.

I'm of the opinion that being evil suffice itself  :lol:



'Dem sick VATS melee move
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Made the mistake to quicksave near 7 fragmentation mines for easy disarm if I fail => endless dying loop (somehow it triggered after I loaded at the previously safe distance)
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Random event: a funeral (with Strong paying his respect)
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Voncrow on November 28, 2015, 08:34:21 pm
'Dem sick VATS melee move
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You can actually get those sometimes outside of VATS, I always get that sense of amusement when I raider gets too close to me and my .44 and gets a pistol whip combo to his chin and dies. Although it can be ridiculous at times. My pistol whip on a higher level raider will do like 1/10 health due to my low str character but at half health I some times get a finisher cinematic take downs that feel good but derpy at the same time since I'm not really a strong melee character.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 28, 2015, 08:36:36 pm
You can actually get those sometimes outside of VATS, I always get that sense of amusement when I raider gets too close to me and my .44 and gets a pistol whip combo to his chin and dies. Although it can be ridiculous at times. My pistol whip on a higher level raider will do like 1/10 health due to my low str character but at half health I some times get a finisher cinematic take downs that feel good but derpy at the same time since I'm not really a strong melee character.

Could be because there is a critical strike system out of the VATS too. I have a perk which gives me +5% damage and a "chance that your enemy will explode into tiny bits on impact"  :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 29, 2015, 01:35:51 pm
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Deathloops are great, i saw someone escaping the BoS airship thingy, when he went down some stairs and loaded in he would get instagibbed by some enemies waiting down there. Deathloop by autosave, pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: [ptx] on November 29, 2015, 04:46:27 pm
If you want an RPG that allows you to be a dick and actually profit from it, then it's probably the Gothic games, that are a good bet, especially the first two. Games that have an alignment/karma generally are awful in that sense.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on November 29, 2015, 06:14:02 pm
Age of Decadence is the best I've tried in that regard, the whole world is basically a big, merciless power struggle, being selfish and cynical leads to great rewards, and you are generally forced to just to survive.

FO2 had the best 'evil' dialogue options I've seen in an RPG, though the downside is, like in most RPGs since, fewer mechanical rewards (always gives lower xp) and social stigma (most npcs react negatively to child killers or slavers for example), but it was still definitely worth a playthrough. Dark side was fun in KotOR II but here we are back in the old black-white alignment system.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Fips on November 29, 2015, 07:26:33 pm
If you want an RPG that allows you to be a dick and actually profit from it, then it's probably the Gothic games, that are a good bet, especially the first two. Games that have an alignment/karma generally are awful in that sense.

R.I.P. My Life

Gothic is the reason i got into gaming, up until 3 it was a glorious experience, especially with all the mods. Sadly it got ruined by corporate greed after that and Risen is just meh, even if it comes from the same minds basically.


To get back to F4: How on earth do you build a goddamn floor smoothly? I tried the no-clipping tricks/cheats, but in the end the floors never snapped to one another or they were blocked by the already existing buildings and/or piles of dirt, workshops, hobo fireplaces and whatnot.
I wanted to build a nice 3 stock shack in Hangmans Alley and everything is in my way ._.
Integrating your buildings into the surrounding stuff seems almost impossible to me as of now and it ruins that part of the game completely imo.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 29, 2015, 08:25:29 pm
so for anyone that might of seen the sniper rifle with the Bipod on one of the loading screens, apparantly it's not in the game so i found a mod that works and adds a new modification on the workbench to add the same bipod you can see on the loading screen, to make it look like an AWP or something for aesthetics.


Loading Screen Vanilla Bipod
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Mod that adds the Bipod to the workbench
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I taken the screenshot from my game about a minute ago proving that this mod works.


Mod link: http://fallout4-mod.com/weapons/hunting-rifle-markmans-stock-with-bipod-custom-mod/

Just click the Download button below the author's name.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on November 29, 2015, 09:42:17 pm
Just click the Download button below the author's name.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Thovex on November 29, 2015, 09:54:33 pm
lmao
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on November 29, 2015, 10:36:00 pm
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 29, 2015, 10:39:41 pm
Gothic is the reason i got into gaming, up until 3 it was a glorious experience, especially with all the mods.

Gothic 3 is criticised so unfairly that it makes me a sad panda. See this video, if you have the time, to see why it really is a great game.
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Fips on November 29, 2015, 11:48:16 pm
Gothic 3 requires Mods to be really good. Then it's just as good as 1 and 2. Heck, i even liked the add-on after modders took care of the biggest issues. But it still has story issues that just can't simply be modded away, those were my main complaints. I played through it just as often as the first 2, so yeah, it's a great game. I just hate that it took many years of modding to get it there.
One thing is out-fucking-standing as usual though: the soundtrack.
Ah whatevs, might as well watch the video for nostalgia reasons =D

Have you tried Arcania, btw?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 30, 2015, 12:17:35 am
I tried Arcania and it disgusted me to the bone. Had to uninstall after patiently bearing with it for about 1 hour or so. I never revisited it and never will. That game was such an insult to the name.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Fips on November 30, 2015, 12:24:36 am
I tried Arcania and it disgusted me to the bone. Had to uninstall after patiently bearing with it for about 1 hour or so. I never revisited it and never will. That game was such an insult to the name.

I played through it =(
Rektimus Maximus to the name, yeah. You really notice that Piranha Bytes was out of the picture after Nr. 3.

Fuck you man, the urge to dust off the CD is getting way too strong now, i thought i put that time-stealer behind me.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on November 30, 2015, 12:33:29 am
Yeah, it is such a shame that it still came out with the Gothic name.

Actually, I dug up that Youtube video for you. But I found myself watching it and getting a nostalgia vibe. I guess I will reinstall Gothic 3 too. Although aged, it still looks pretty anyway and it counts for something when I still want to play after having already replayed it so many times.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on November 30, 2015, 11:28:04 am
Gothic 3 has some DirectX 9 mod floating through the net. Updates the renderer and adds a way better look...
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 30, 2015, 03:15:23 pm
Reached lvl 60. Done all the quests I could find and explored pretty much the whole world. Cya in two years or more when all the good mods are out.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 30, 2015, 06:39:47 pm
Reached lvl 60. Done all the quests I could find and explored pretty much the whole world. Cya in two years or more when all the good mods are out.
how can u be only lvl 60, i am 51 or 52 and havent touched like entire south and havent done a lot of quests and main story line
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on November 30, 2015, 08:44:47 pm
Notwithstading personal interaction with the actual story etc, maybe he has less stats/perks XP boost? I dont remember which does it, but I've read tooltips about such or such increasing the XP you get.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on November 30, 2015, 08:47:54 pm
Yeah, higher intelligence gives more xp, also at least one perk that randomly gives you like triple xp or something, probably luck based i guess.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Latvian on November 30, 2015, 09:09:06 pm
Notwithstading personal interaction with the actual story etc, maybe he has less stats/perks XP boost? I dont remember which does it, but I've read tooltips about such or such increasing the XP you get.
idiot savant is the perk that you speak about, and indeed i have it ( still remember getting 1800 xp for quests from time to time :D )  i guess that explains a lot
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 30, 2015, 09:21:08 pm
I only got 1 point in luck, so yeah I missed out on a lot of xp. + I played on hardest diff. so combat was a bit slower (you don't get more xp per increased difficulty?) and I barely did any of the infinite fetch and clear quests you get from some of the factions, as they didn't really give you anything of importance.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 01, 2015, 12:22:11 am
Also level 60 and done with the game. Plus I have gone so far with Melee+Agility that it isn't even funny anymore. I can now basically enter VATS and kill several unsuspecting (I guess 6 in 2-3 seconds was the record so far) mobs in a breeze. I have also scored sneak 1-shots on deathclaws and behemots. I feel so bad for picking that broken leveling path.

Probably the only consolation is that you don't get to be such a mean bastard until later levels.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on December 01, 2015, 01:12:03 am
Probably the only consolation is that you don't get to be such a mean bastard until later levels.
Melee+sneak build never felt any more difficult than shooting, save maybe the first 3 levels and gets cheesy rather fast. As soon as you get Blitz it is nearly too much cheese to handle, that anti-climax when you kill the Synth enemy that was being hyped up the entire quest in a single VATS, because you Blitzed him while he was still looking for the button on his Stealth Boy. Then you get the x10 melee sneak attack modifier at level 33 and the fun is over. I finished the main quest at level 35 and quit afterwards, I could only enter a room, press crouch, enter VATS and watch 6 enemies die so many times. I one-shot a Queen Mirelurk and a Savage Deathclaw, not sure if there are much stronger enemies. I can't imagine what being a level 60 build feels like.

Notwithstading personal interaction with the actual story etc, maybe he has less stats/perks XP boost? I dont remember which does it, but I've read tooltips about such or such increasing the XP you get.
Idiot Savant is really strong and will always be a boost to your experience rate no matter what your Intelligence. I played with 1 Intel and this perk and it levels really damn fast. It triggers 1/8 at that INT and I got it about 6 times on a quest which usually meant I skipped a level.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3siw35/i_tested_intelligence_idiot_savant_and_experience/
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 01, 2015, 01:34:27 am
Damn Blitz. Sometimes you target the enemy from so far away and such a difficult position that you just stand there, swing your melee weapon in front of you and the poor bastard you are aiming at dies meters away. All the while you stay at the same spot. It's like a telekinesis kill.

Sure I liked the feeling for a very brief time initially, as it felt good after all the whacking I had to put up with during my early levels. But it wore out ligthning fast, because it is plain ridiculous.

By the way, it took me so long to get to that build because I wasn't originally planning to shape into this. In the end, I was tired of looking for ammo everywhere inside out and not really feeling strong enough with guns. So I had to make a change of plans. I still used a fully modded plasma rifle and gauss rifle, but melee weapons were always my top choice.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on December 01, 2015, 01:23:49 pm
I'm going for a versatile, adaptable build atm. Meaning I dont try to aim for a min-max but more like, if I want something, I perk it so I can; if I loot something shiny, I perk it up a bit. Ok I'm only lvl 10, so maybe even without min-maxing it will become too easy later on.
For now, on survival difficulty, its pretty tough. I have solid STR/END + good melee damage, but getting into melee is crazy risky against most of my opponents. I need to shoot a guy 10-30 times to kill him, I have enough ammo for that though so its not a real issue, and the slow regeneration is not too much of a problem if you always eat when a bit down. When I'm in front of something real nasty, I use explosives and most of the time its a one-shot ticket to win, or at least a cripple/stagger.


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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 01, 2015, 01:46:39 pm
You spoke about Gothic 3 and the fact that it was great despite the hate. I would have tried it if I didnt hear it was shit all over the internet when it was released, whats the catch?

It is mainly the clunky melee combat, which can be easily overlooked, because the rest of the game is fantastically beautiful in every aspect from the world and factions to the non-existence of stupid enemy scaling. If you want to give it a chance, I advise you to see that video I posted for Fips. It's a little bit long, but will give you a good idea of the game.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on December 01, 2015, 03:05:54 pm
I find it hilarious how they shoot your wife. I mean it shouldn't be hard pulling the kid out of her arms, especially considering she just woke up from cryofreeze. I mean, she was a valuable backup for the institute as well, no?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Teeth on December 01, 2015, 03:11:14 pm
I find it hilarious how they shoot your wife. I mean it shouldn't be hard pulling the kid out of her arms, especially considering she just woke up from cryofreeze. I mean, she was a valuable backup for the institute as well, no?
I was really glad she died. I dicked around with the female character option a little without grasping that this actually altered the look of your wife, even if you choose to be a male. I couldn't take the intro seriously at all because my wife looked like the spawn of Beelzebub.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on December 01, 2015, 03:49:13 pm
I dunno, these are just my first impressions. Maybe it gets easier at level 2...

 :rolleyes: :lol:
you beautiful bastard, I know what you did there (and rest of post)

It is mainly the clunky melee combat, which can be easily overlooked, because the rest of the game is fantastically beautiful in every aspect from the world and factions to the non-existence of stupid enemy scaling. If you want to give it a chance, I advise you to see that video I posted for Fips. It's a little bit long, but will give you a good idea of the game.

I always prefer direct opinion of people I know a bit, less spoily and easier to extrapolate if it would be worth a try. So I'm gonna give it a chance, after Fallout 4 and MGS5 (and the tons of good other games I should do -_-).
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Fips on December 01, 2015, 05:07:47 pm
I always prefer direct opinion of people I know a bit, less spoily and easier to extrapolate if it would be worth a try. So I'm gonna give it a chance, after Fallout 4 and MGS5 (and the tons of good other games I should do -_-).

I haven't looked for any english versions for my mods, but they are a must-have:
Community Patch (Should be 1.75 or something like that), Content Mod (2.6.1 or higher) and the Quest-Pack (4.2 or higher).
Then get some kind of program that lets you easily adjust the ini-file making it look way prettier and running more smoothly and you will have an excellent time.
Sadly i really cannot help you with my links because everything is in german.

Without those mods you shouldn't even bother installing it, sadly.

But you could start just playing 1 and 2(+addon) with some graphic enhancements first, because those games are very solid without mods.


Aaaand thx to replaying Gothic 3 now, i stopped completely with Fallout 4. I just raged way too much while building even simple things out in the open and the story never really sucked me in as i had hoped it would. Even exploring the vaults made me more excited about the lore than the actual mainquest.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SixThumbs on December 01, 2015, 05:57:44 pm
Was really fun for the first 20 hours or so just exploring the wasteland but the main storyline makes it really hard to ignore and there's not much interactivity a lot of the times besides shooting and picking up junk.

I wish they had gone some sort of Morrowind route where at certain points the game was just, like, "please, go check out the rest of the map and get some experience", even if you could just talk to them again immediately to start the next sequence.

I'm hunting down the Railroad and the trail was really uninteresting as I had passed through the areas hours before and they were now empty. Also I forgot to pay attention to the puzzle pieces.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Ikarus on December 02, 2015, 08:41:52 pm
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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 05, 2015, 01:03:10 am
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on December 08, 2015, 11:41:25 am
The patch seems to disable esp mods...

Using this script extender allows you to start the game with mods enabled for the time being. (http://f4se.silverlock.org/)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Araxiel on December 08, 2015, 10:56:28 pm
Anyone knows how to play caravan card game in fallout new vegas? I need someone to win 29 games and send me the save file. :)
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 08, 2015, 11:44:57 pm
Anyone knows how to play caravan card game in fallout new vegas? I need someone to win 29 games and send me the save file. :)

It's so easy to play though...
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Caravan_%28game%29
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: //saxon on December 13, 2015, 11:48:12 am
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Asheram on December 22, 2015, 06:21:51 pm
https://www.rt.com/news/326272-gamer-russia-lawsuit-fallout4/

 :shock: :lol:
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on April 19, 2016, 10:29:17 pm
The Codex released their F4 review. I agree on every point.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10267

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...Intelligence gives 3% bonus experience per level and reduces the number of possible solutions shown in the hacking minigame. And that's it. That's what being intelligent means in the sequel to Fallout 1 and 2.

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But Bethesda aren't Obsidian or CD Projekt, and they aren't the company that made Morrowind either.

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...It's no hyperbole to say that the writers at Bethesda are some of the worst storytellers in the AAA gaming segment.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 19, 2016, 10:56:58 pm
The Codex released their F4 review. I agree on every point.

http://www.rpgcodex.net/article.php?id=10267

I like point 13.

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Fallout 4 is a serious game full of caricatures; it's a comedy game without any funny parts; it's a 100+ hour single player shooter; it's a treadmill of linear fetch and kill quests coupled with atrocious writing. It's a shallow and simplistic game that struggles to create an illusion of depth and variety. It is a lazy, nonsensical, and fundamentally dumb piece of design that offers nothing of interest to the discerning cRPG player. I regret every minute I wasted playing this game. There is nothing more to say.

Feels good not having bothered with it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 20, 2016, 12:24:09 am
It has no soul.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Laufknoten on April 20, 2016, 12:55:05 am
Looking at what they call "DLCs" and charge real money for, it's safe to say that Bethesda has fallen to the dark side.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on April 20, 2016, 01:32:25 am
I'm fine with a mere post-apoc shooter. The shooting mechanics in Fallout 3 and New Vegas were just unbelievably bad, which made me more tolerant of Fallout 4's numerous faults.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Falka on April 20, 2016, 02:25:26 am
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My final save game claims that I spent 127 hours in the game (...)

I regret every minute I wasted playing this game.

He's either masochistic or retarded.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Taser on April 20, 2016, 02:33:40 am
It has no soul.

I would agree.

Fallout New Vegas was one of the better ways to do the story. No real background on your character so you could be whoever you wanted without it clashing with the story. In this one it was a major clash since you were supposed to be this dad/mom concerned about their son even though you had no real idea on how long had passed during the time your son was taken and when you woke up the second time. Add in the some of the additions to fallout (settlement building) and how much they were hyped to find out it had no actual impact on the game whatsoever. Then the letdown with the faction fighting and end to the story.

I had so much hope for fallout 4 and it burst so quickly. I never even finished the story. I couldn't be bothered. I just didn't find it interesting enough. How fucking sad for a game like that to be hyped so much then people end up playing NV or fallout 1 and 2 to get a glimpse of better days.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 20, 2016, 02:54:33 am
He's either masochistic or retarded.

Well if he had such a detailed review in mind, then he's dedicated at the very least. There is a purpose behind the torture.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 20, 2016, 03:23:24 am
I was more intrigued and engaged in the D&D story you could find on different co-workers computers in the energy building than the main story. I gave the game around 100 hrs more or less. I have to say I did enjoy the gameplay and exploring, the rest was just mundane and bad. I tried to make a new character where I would only focus on being a dick, but with the "set-in-stone" background for your character and the early on actions you're forced to help others and "bad" decisions turns out to just be a different dialogue response with no consequences. The only time being "evil" ever changed anything for me was when an NPC didn't wanna sell to me after I robbed her of some cash. Needless to say I gave up on that kind of a playthrough pretty quick. If I bought the game however I would be piss'd.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Paul on April 20, 2016, 11:59:44 am
I bought exactly 3 games in 2015: Adom, Fifa 16 and Fallout4. Adom mostly to support the maker yet I still play it a lot. Fifa is ok - I need it to keep my Rageball shakes away. I can't bring myself to play Fallout 4 anymore. I'm not even halfway through and it still feels so bland. It's everything that's wrong in todays games. I actually started playing Fallout Tactics which was the example of a bad Fallout game before. It's more enjoyable.

The worst is that I can't even say "I regret buying Fallout 4" because the obvious remark would be "But you bought it". Damn peer pressure.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 20, 2016, 12:46:22 pm
He's either masochistic or retarded.

At least all that time spent ingame earns him the right to criticize it lengthily. It makes the review credible, considering that there are people out there who think they are eligible for glorifying or bashing a game after spending just a few hours with it.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on April 20, 2016, 01:22:53 pm
I bought exactly 3 games in 2015: Adom, Fifa 16 and Fallout4. Adom mostly to support the maker yet I still play it a lot. Fifa is ok - I need it to keep my Rageball shakes away. I can't bring myself to play Fallout 4 anymore. I'm not even halfway through and it still feels so bland. It's everything that's wrong in todays games. I actually started playing Fallout Tactics which was the example of a bad Fallout game before. It's more enjoyable.

The worst is that I can't even say "I regret buying Fallout 4" because the obvious remark would be "But you bought it". Damn peer pressure.
This. For the bland part at least.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: darmaster on April 20, 2016, 04:26:25 pm
Boring as fuck
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on April 20, 2016, 04:27:58 pm
The DLCs are just a shame. Guess the gaming industry is just going deeper and deeper into greed and exploiting the poor souls who can't stop buying stuff.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Falka on April 21, 2016, 12:15:32 am
At least all that time spent ingame earns him the right to criticize it lengthily. It makes the review credible, considering that there are people out there who think they are eligible for glorifying or bashing a game after spending just a few hours with it.

If I spent in the game 5 hours and after that time I think it's shit, I feel entitled to say that the game is shit. No matter how many more hours of playtime is there. But I'm not a critic.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 21, 2016, 12:05:23 pm
Some games can be criticized after only 20 minutes due to their simplistic structure. And it is alright to state your opinion in several sentences or words after only a short while. Nobody can judge you because you said "It sucks" or "I don't like it".

What I mean is I have seen page-long reviews like this one for complex games authored by people who didn't even bother playing long enough to have a real idea. That is simply wrong.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on April 21, 2016, 06:28:16 pm
Some games can be criticized after only 20 minutes due to their simplistic structure. And it is alright to state your opinion in several sentences or words after only a short while. Nobody can judge you because you said "It sucks" or "I don't like it".

What I mean is I have seen page-long reviews like this one for complex games authored by people who didn't even bother playing long enough to have a real idea. That is simply wrong.

I agree with this. You can review tons of games without finishing them provided you've played enough to understand the game. For example putting 5 hours into something like Total War and you're never going to give a proper review and yet the same length of time into Rise of the Tomb Raider will give you plenty of information.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: SixThumbs on April 22, 2016, 12:29:46 am
What if I played five hours of Total War several times?
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 22, 2016, 12:32:17 am
What if I played five hours of Total War several times?

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Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on April 22, 2016, 11:05:31 am
5 hours is plenty enough to experience the entirety of what Fallout 4 has to offer and come to the conclussion that it's just not good.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Angantyr on April 22, 2016, 11:32:50 am
RPGCodex have a tradition of highly in-depth reviews. And another for deriving pleasure from tearing apart Bethesda games since Oblivion piece by piece.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on April 23, 2016, 04:17:08 pm
Fallout 4 was/is such a trap.

It was interesting enough for just long enough to prevent me from getting a refund on Steam. Played it for 2.5 hours, got bored.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Oberyn on April 23, 2016, 06:18:41 pm
The worst is that I can't even say "I regret buying Fallout 4" because the obvious remark would be "But you bought it". Damn peer pressure.

As is typical with Bestheda games I'm not going to touch this thing until a few months in when it's actually a finished game and good mods start popping up for it, but have looked at a couple let's plays. And it does seem seriously "streamlined", aka simplified or just straight up removed entire sections of the game. It's getting more and more like an FPS and less like an RPG, which some people must like. 
By the way you all remember the controversy on paying mods with Skyrim, right? Guessing this debate will be back soon. They will be a lot more sneaky about it if they learned anything from their previous try.

lol, tbf I had already gotten fooled by Bethesda marketing before, maybe it's your first time.



As for the game itself, I think they did it. They finally managed to make a game so completely broken and bland from the ground up that not even mods can save it. Some of the most dumbing down I've ever seen in a game series from one title to it's sequel. The vaunted base building is nothing but a pointless time-waster. There are zero consequences for your choices, in the few instances you have an actual choice at all. The dialogue wheel is just a bizarre design decision. It's like admitting they have no idea how to write a narrative with actual humans in mind and have to robotically break down every conversation path into manageable bits. It's mediocre as a shooter and just awful as an rpg. I think I managed maybe 7 hours in total, not sure cause I pirated it to try it out and uninstalled it after being thorougly dissapointed.

Also, anyone want to bet Bethesda is going to try monetizing mods again somehow?

Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on April 23, 2016, 07:51:12 pm
Imagine the Fallout setting with quality authors like they had in Witcher 3.

There is an epic rpg in the setting somewhere, only needs the right people to do it.
A single side quest of W3 had more quality writing and narrative than half the main story in Fallout 4 - only half because that's at most my furthest progress I managed to achieve.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Banok on April 23, 2016, 09:54:01 pm
Yes in terms of RPG its the worst, laziest bethesda game yet. There wasn't a single interesting quest. The fact that anyone would rate it above witcher 3 simply boggles the mind.

But as a first person shooter its pretty dam fun game. I mean compare it to other single player FPS, they are all completely and utterly boring. even the other sandboxy ones like just cause or far cry, just look really boring compared to fo4 to me and then theres halo/cod/bf singleplayer which I just would never even touch.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 23, 2016, 10:25:26 pm
It could have been a fun little shooter. Then again, they had to completely fuck it up with what they think should be the most interesting game mechanic ever: Almost every enemy appearing out of the blue.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on April 25, 2016, 11:33:13 am
Seriously, a fun FPS game? "Mediocre" is being generous when describing its FPS elements. One of the worst "shooters" I've played, it's basically Fallout 3/Skyrim with a couple of improvements that still aren't enough to make the gunplay interesting.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Vibe on April 25, 2016, 12:03:04 pm
It could have been a fun little shooter. Then again, they had to completely fuck it up with what they think should be the most interesting game mechanic ever: Almost every enemy appearing out of the blue.

Yeah I'm with Xant on this. I'll say that it could have been a fun little RPG, but not a shooter.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on April 25, 2016, 12:08:11 pm
Seriously, a fun FPS game? "Mediocre" is being generous when describing its FPS elements. One of the worst "shooters" I've played, it's basically Fallout 3/Skyrim with a couple of improvements that still aren't enough to make the gunplay interesting.

Well, my remark comes from someone who's not a seasoned fps player. Given options, it is probably among the bottom of genres I'd consider playing. What I meant is, I could simply forget this was an rpg or even a Fallout sequel, and be alright with playing it as a mindless shooter game. But the problem is that it tries to be a Fallout game.

And as I also said, it even fails at the shooter part with all that constant artificial surprise factor.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Leesin on April 26, 2016, 08:34:16 pm
Fallout 4, massively overrated by the majority of critics who obviously must be taking payments under the desk.

 The majority of actual people that probably think this game is great are probably those that didn't play Fallout 3 or NV ( They both had faults and I don't like either as much as Elder Scrolls games, but they were still fairly good ) or the original Fallout games and probably never played an Elder Scrolls game. Yes I know Fallout isn't Elder Scrolls, but their developments are pretty much tied and have obviously glaring similarities now, which is extremely worrying in terms of how terrible the upcoming Elder Scrolls might be.

 I guess we do owe it to the spoiled filthy casual kids with ADHD who seem to have become a large part of the target market, the dumbing down of the entire game, including characters, story lines, details and depth. I could see past the obvious dumbing down in Oblivion and Skyrim, I still enjoyed those games, I enjoyed Fallout 3 and NV even though I wasn't overly interested in the world, they were all still fairly solid games IMO and the mod-ability saved some of the faults of them all.

But not even modding could save Fallout 4 for me, I forced myself to slog through about 20 or so hours of the game, just in hopes it would start to shine, but it honestly didn't, it was dull and boring. The "improved" gunplay and fx were nice for a little while, but they can't hold up a game like this, they are still fairly primitive in terms of fluidity and quality. If the rest of the game was good they would have been a nice addition and would have been acceptable.

tl;dr what a dull piece of shit game that also makes me expect the next Elder Scrolls game to be just as bad, or worse.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on April 27, 2016, 01:58:08 pm
Fallout 4, massively overrated by the majority of critics who obviously must be taking payments under the desk.

 The majority of actual people that probably think this game is great are probably those that didn't play Fallout 3 or NV ( They both had faults and I don't like either as much as Elder Scrolls games, but they were still fairly good ) or the original Fallout games and probably never played an Elder Scrolls game. Yes I know Fallout isn't Elder Scrolls, but their developments are pretty much tied and have obviously glaring similarities now, which is extremely worrying in terms of how terrible the upcoming Elder Scrolls might be.

 I guess we do owe it to the spoiled filthy casual kids with ADHD who seem to have become a large part of the target market, the dumbing down of the entire game, including characters, story lines, details and depth. I could see past the obvious dumbing down in Oblivion and Skyrim, I still enjoyed those games, I enjoyed Fallout 3 and NV even though I wasn't overly interested in the world, they were all still fairly solid games IMO and the mod-ability saved some of the faults of them all.

But not even modding could save Fallout 4 for me, I forced myself to slog through about 20 or so hours of the game, just in hopes it would start to shine, but it honestly didn't, it was dull and boring. The "improved" gunplay and fx were nice for a little while, but they can't hold up a game like this, they are still fairly primitive in terms of fluidity and quality. If the rest of the game was good they would have been a nice addition and would have been acceptable.

tl;dr what a dull piece of shit game that also makes me expect the next Elder Scrolls game to be just as bad, or worse.

I just hope they learnt their lesson there, and will release a decent Elder Scrolls/Fallout this time. The Brotherhood of Steel ending was just so incoherent, I called bullshit there.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Molly on April 27, 2016, 01:59:13 pm
Nah, FO 4 got so good ratings, they probably think they have an awesome recipe to milk.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Algarn on April 27, 2016, 03:57:57 pm
Nah, FO 4 got so good ratings, they probably think they have an awesome recipe to milk.

Well, either they got their new CoD casual pleb fans to back them up and buy their games, and everything will be alright; or they still need their old hardcore fanbase from the previous fallouts and elder scrolls, and those won't buy their next RPG if it ends up being another fallout 4, which means they might be going back to the Obsidian RPG recipe. I'm surely going to keep the track of Bethesda and see how it goes after that, since I still got some hope left. Plus I don't think the ratings are so good, they're rather mixed in content.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Butan on April 27, 2016, 04:31:30 pm
Fallout is following the Total War trend.

More casual, more DLC, more plebs, goodbye hardcore fans who made the franchise, thanks for the money.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Kafein on April 28, 2016, 12:34:47 pm
It's fine, old giants fall and new prodigies jump from their shoulders before they hit the ground or something.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2017, 11:24:46 pm
Is this game good now with mods &c? I played it just over two hours on release before getting utterly bored -- so no Steam refund. Fml.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 11, 2017, 11:54:30 pm
I doubt it, probably some decent nude mods etc but I guess that's about it. Still the same game. Glad I pirated it but exploring / combat was fun enough so eh, if you're bored maybe.
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Gurgumul on March 12, 2017, 01:09:39 am
when and why did this thread get 1000 replies
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Laufknoten on March 12, 2017, 12:22:59 pm
Is this game good now with mods &c? I played it just over two hours on release before getting utterly bored -- so no Steam refund. Fml.
They went the autism route and focused fully on settlement building and neglected every other part of the game. I guess you can't blame them, seems they finally came to accept that they're shit writers who are incapable of writing an appealing story. Also they hate RPG elements, so they basically removed or dumbed down all of them.
If you visit the Fallout 4 nexus it's just settlement building mods, some nude or sex stuff and retextures. The whole franchise is cancer at this point.   
Title: Re: Fallout 4
Post by: Asheram on September 03, 2017, 01:59:21 am