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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 03:49:00 pm »
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xbow buff yeah what a surpise !
when is agi archery buff ? yeah i know never !
why no item balancer for other ranged class ?

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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 05:10:20 pm »
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xbow buff yeah what a surpise !
when is agi archery buff ? yeah i know never !
why no item balancer for other ranged class ?

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Well, first things first, they need to reverse the buff to melee on archers :D
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 05:30:26 pm »
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xbow buff yeah what a surpise !
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the buff wasn't that big, mostly stuff just got a little bit faster to reload and heavy xbow got 3 slots but for that way less accurate, that's not worth going crazy about. Archery changes will come sooner or later, but that requires more work

btw have you tried that xbow build yet I recommended? Since you said xbow is still too op in melee
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2018, 05:32:32 pm »
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So did hunting and light xbow get difficulty increased to fend of the no melee HX?
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 05:44:32 pm »
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the buff wasn't that big, mostly stuff just got a little bit faster to reload and heavy xbow got 3 slots but for that way less accurate, that's not worth going crazy about. Archery changes will come sooner or later, but that requires more work

btw have you tried that xbow build yet I recommended? Since you said xbow is still too op in melee
yeah tbf it wasn't much of a buff.
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2018, 06:57:10 pm »
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the buff wasn't that big, mostly stuff just got a little bit faster to reload and heavy xbow got 3 slots but for that way less accurate, that's not worth going crazy about. Archery changes will come sooner or later, but that requires more work

btw have you tried that xbow build yet I recommended? Since you said xbow is still too op in melee
just the fact than xbows get a buff even for 1 point is enough to going crazy imo
and yeah not that big but a little + a little it finish to make it back to big
i know i repeat myself but why most powerfull and accurate ranged weapon is not nerfed to the ground like others ?
why only xbows can go for high agi build when at the base it was like arbalest needed 18 or 21 str ? is it not suposed to be a revert to oldschool style fashion?
you can think im saying shit but sry xbowers are able to kite now !!!
and by kiting i mean coming close to you shoot running away at cover then coming back and finish the last 10% hp u had

i tried 12/27 on my stf but because all my ranged class have ghosting projectile problem i gave up ...
going for cav probably next respec... why i would go ranged when i can os anything as cav and when archers do around 10 and 20% dmg per arrows to heavy horse...

and please decrease the 1 week free respec or atleast allow it to all chars
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2018, 07:57:48 pm »
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just the fact than xbows get a buff even for 1 point is enough to going crazy imo
and yeah not that big but a little + a little it finish to make it back to big
i know i repeat myself but why most powerfull and accurate ranged weapon is not nerfed to the ground like others ?
why only xbows can go for high agi build when at the base it was like arbalest needed 18 or 21 str ? is it not suposed to be a revert to oldschool style fashion?
you can think im saying shit but sry xbowers are able to kite now !!!
and by kiting i mean coming close to you shoot running away at cover then coming back and finish the last 10% hp u had

i tried 12/27 on my stf but because all my ranged class have ghosting projectile problem i gave up ...
going for cav probably next respec... why i would go ranged when i can os anything as cav and when archers do around 10 and 20% dmg per arrows to heavy horse...

and please decrease the 1 week free respec or atleast allow it to all chars

Most of what you said is incorrect, the rest is just whining.
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2018, 08:07:31 pm »
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2018, 08:33:19 pm »
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Just his last post?

Or in general?
in general and i agree
keep buffing xbows plz
and buff 2h
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2018, 09:03:26 pm »
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blacI love you rant reminds me of myself hating on throwers until I tried it out

can be a lot of fun but there's also a lot of shit you have to deal with

if you never try a class it will always look OP
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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2018, 12:16:40 am »
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@blackbow its best to focus on one thing at a time buff/nerf it till it sits around the area that you wanted it to be at before allowing it to leave your focus. Your problem is you wanted me to nerf the class into the ground and I wanted to just slightly nerf it from its original state that is why you are whining now because you had unrealistic expectations of what the class should look like after a patch.

Improvements to archery where already made while tweaking xbows. via multipliers - It is not my fault if you do not recognize these changes.

Though I will admit I made a mistake with the xbow reload speeds. I did not recall that changing the reload speed effects the delayed release of the arbalest bolt. - I reverted reload speeds to prevent changing this further. I made a few 0 slot options for those xbowers that play 2h-xbow classes. They deserve to exist within the game as well.

Heavy xbow now fills a bit more of a niche that allows you to use a better sidearm. I increased its weight to put it on the same field as arbalest. *Accuracy tweaks may follow*

I should really stop replying to blackbow as he clearly is impossible to please unless you go with his exact suggestions. *even if he knows they would fail*
- I am going to begin to focus on archery now. *I am looking into how to return the meta to agility archery while keeping highly effective kiting out of the game*

 

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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2018, 12:23:42 am »
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The camel is extremely overpowered. The templar horse, hospitaller horse and master knight horse are all complete garbage.

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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2018, 12:40:23 am »
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The camel is extremely overpowered. The templar horse, hospitaller horse and master knight horse are all complete garbage.

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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2018, 01:14:46 am »
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Elite Scimitar buff... but why?

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Re: 0.5.2.1: Belated Update
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2018, 01:43:23 am »
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It wasn't elite enough, duh.

Also, it upsets me to see that blackbow has made some enemies here. I agree that he comes too agressive with his posts, but give the guy a break. He hasn't been able to play his preferred style (mine too) for more than 4 (?) years because of "balance" reasons. One could argue that it's more like a culmination of whining and terrible decisions. But what does "one" know right?

As an archer, I appreciate the changes on the melee weapon options. But the biggest problem archery has today is still there.
Having said that; I know these things take time and I appreciate your efforts.
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