BUG！Terrible BUG！！ARCHER skill BUG！！！

[1907435]

 

This fucking bug is so so so terrible to the balance of the CRPG.

About 4 months ago , we found a archer who can shoot with a very high damage and we all know that he own 10 Power Draw skill.
Now we can see lots of archers can shoot and give the enemy the same damage as him in some server.
This is not the point.
The key point is that these archers can shoot on the target accuracy from more than 200 yards far away.
They can only own 30 str and 15 agi when they are Lv.32 which means they can just own 5 WM skill and about 140 WP.
I doubt they can shoot with a longbow so so so accuracy in a long distance.
So we try to have a test.

The result is that when the char own 9 PowerDraw skill and 5 Weapon Master skill ( all 140 WP in archery ), we CAN NOT shoot accuracy even if the target is only 50 yards away from us.
But when we own 10 PowerDraw skill and still 5 Weapon Master skill  ( all 140 WP in archery ),  we CAN shoot the target 200 yards away so easy and accuracy.

Ok the base of the test is the same char with the same WM skill, the same WP in archery, the same equiment weight, the same weapon ( longbow ). Therefore We are sure 10 POWER DRAW skill creat a fucking BUG that the skills do not punish the WP to the char.

We all know the 1 PD skill must reduce 14 WP points to the archery, 10 PD skill must reduce 140 WP points to the archery.
In this test we found 9 PD skill reduced about 130 WP points to the archery and make us can not shoot accuracy.
BUT 10 PD skill reduced 0 WP points to the archery then we can still shoot accuracy and creat a terrble damage to our target.

The difference between 10 PD and 9 PD is the distance from the heaven to the hell.
We are sure the a char with 10 PD has NO punish in archey.
This is the BUG of 10 PD

We hope Development Group can creat a char and test this fucking BUG.
We can not face a archer with fucking high damage and fucking high accuracy.
It is impossiable to image and unbalance to the game.

Thanks for help.

[1907435]

This fucking bug is so so so terrible to the balance of the CRPG.

About 4 months ago , we found a archer who can shoot with a very high damage and we all know that he own 10 Power Draw skill.
Now we can see lots of archers can shoot and give the enemy the same damage as him in some server.
This is not the point.
The key point is that these archers can shoot on the target accuracy from more than 200 yards far away.
They can only own 30 str and 15 agi when they are Lv.32 which means they can just own 5 WM skill and about 140 WP.
I doubt they can shoot with a longbow so so so accuracy in a long distance.
So we try to have a test.

The result is that when the char own 9 PowerDraw skill and 5 Weapon Master skill ( all 140 WP in archery ), we CAN NOT shoot accuracy even if the target is only 50 yards away from us.
But when we own 10 PowerDraw skill and still 5 Weapon Master skill  ( all 140 WP in archery ),  we CAN shoot the target 200 yards away so easy and accuracy.

Ok the base of the test is the same char with the same WM skill, the same WP in archery, the same equiment weight, the same weapon ( longbow ). Therefore We are sure 10 POWER DRAW skill creat a fucking BUG that the skills do not punish the WP to the char.

We all know the 1 PD skill must reduce 14 WP points to the archery, 10 PD skill must reduce 140 WP points to the archery.
In this test we found 9 PD skill reduced about 130 WP points to the archery and make us can not shoot accuracy.
BUT 10 PD skill reduced 0 WP points to the archery then we can still shoot accuracy and creat a terrble damage to our target.

The difference between 10 PD and 9 PD is the distance from the heaven to the hell.
We are sure the a char with 10 PD has NO punish in archey.
This is the BUG of 10 PD

We hope Development Group can creat a char and test this fucking BUG.
We can not face a archer with fucking high damage and fucking high accuracy.
It is impossiable to image and unbalance to the game.

Thanks for help.

[1907435]

Everyone can creat a char to test it if u just want the char is Lv 30.

30 str and 12 agi   10 PD skill and 4 WM skill.

U can shoot fucking accuracy and kill lots of enemies.

[1907435]

No Discussion ！ Just creat a char and test it.

This bug is so damn.

[Umbra]

Rape of Nanking best day of my life

[Gravoth_iii]

Its intentional afaik, PD increases accuracy just like wpf does, so you can decide what build you want to focus on, agile or slightly more damage. Im pretty sure the 10PD build hits just a slight bit harder.

Using an agi based archery build is still probably a lot better because of the survivability movement speed ads, while str just gives some hp and that doesnt really help much for an archer. Maybe you tank another arrows or so but you also get slowed down archery duels so you have a harder time dodging.

ITT: chinese people who havent been keeping up with patches, i guess..

[HappyPhantom]

Huh? i thought PD REDUCED wpf (accuracy).

[1907435]

Huh? i thought PD REDUCED wpf (accuracy).

YES PD reduce wpf
BUT when your char own 10 PD it will not reduce wpf
This is the BUG

[Huscarlton_Banks]

PD 9 -> 10+ is only special because the PD formula currently used gives you slight WPF boost when you increase it.

I don't think it actually gives you a boost for 11-15 PD since no bows are capable of being drawn out to that point (and because there have been no reports of crazy super fast + accurate + damaging 12-13 PD builds running around) but it does work for 9-10.

It's a bit of a stretch to call a 6 WPF boost game breaking though.

PD   WPF Penalty
0            0
1           12.5
2           25.8
3           38.6
4           50.9
5           62.4
6           72.6
7           80.9
8           86.4
9           87.6
10         82.3
11         67.5
12         38.3
13+        0

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var penalty = 0;
if(weaponType == "Bow")
penalty = - Math.round((Math.max(14 * ps - Math.pow(1.5,ps), 0)) * 10) / 10; //round to nearest decimal place
if(weaponType == "Throwing")
penalty = - (ps * 11);
return penalty;

[Nehvar]

Just gave this a try with my STF and it did seem to be more accurate than you would would think it should be with 10PD and 121WPF.

[1907435]

PD 9 -> 10+ is only special because the PD formula currently used gives you slight WPF boost when you increase it.

I don't think it actually gives you a boost for 11-15 PD since no bows are capable of being drawn out to that point (and because there have been no reports of crazy super fast + accurate + damaging 12-13 PD builds running around) but it does work for 9-10.

It's a bit of a stretch to call a 6 WPF boost game breaking though.

PD   WPF Penalty
0            0
1           12.5
2           25.8
3           38.6
4           50.9
5           62.4
6           72.6
7           80.9
8           86.4
9           87.6
10         82.3
11         67.5
12         38.3
13+        0

Code: [Select]


var penalty = 0;
if(weaponType == "Bow")
penalty = - Math.round((Math.max(14 * ps - Math.pow(1.5,ps), 0)) * 10) / 10; //round to nearest decimal place
if(weaponType == "Throwing")
penalty = - (ps * 11);
return penalty;

You are so professional .
Inface if u try to create a char with 10 PD u will find that the ture is more terrible than the formula shows.
Easy shoot easy kill.  High accuracy high damage.

So the PD formula is a fucking big BUG.

[San]

1 point of PD increases accuracy by 1.5 accuracy points (+20 for PD and +13 for an accuracy point for some reticule function)

If those reductions are correct, I imagine the combination of +1 PD accuracy increase and reducing the wpf reduction all the way down to 82.3 provides a slightly better final accuracy to 7PD builds with better missile speed.

Edit:

Using

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proficiency -= max(14*PD - (1.4 ** PD), 0);I think the wpf curve that had 0 for 13 PD was changed soon afterwards. Might need to check in-game to make sure it's correct.

1: 12.6
2: 26.0
3: 39.3
4: 52.2
5: 64.6
6: 76.5
7: 87.5 
8: 97.2
9: 105.3
10: 111.1 
11: 113.5
12: 111.3
13: 102.6

[1907435]

1 point of PD increases accuracy by 1.5 accuracy points (+20 for PD and +13 for an accuracy point for some reticule function)

If those reductions are correct, I imagine the combination of +1 PD accuracy increase and reducing the wpf reduction all the way down to 82.3 provides a slightly better final accuracy to 7PD builds with better missile speed.

Edit:

Using

Code: [Select]

proficiency -= max(14*PD - (1.4 ** PD), 0);I think the wpf curve that had 0 for 13 PD was changed soon afterwards. Might need to check in-game to make sure it's correct.

1: 12.6
2: 26.0
3: 39.3
4: 52.2
5: 64.6
6: 76.5
7: 87.5 
8: 97.2
9: 105.3
10: 111.1 
11: 113.5
12: 111.3
13: 102.6

I suggest u create a char to test .

[Thomek]

could it be that because of some bug 10 PD are read by the game as 1 or 0 PD?

This was an old bug once upon a time, perhaps your server is not updated. I would check that first. Can you confirm that the server you play on is updated?

[NTWa]

I am that "About 4 months ago , we found a archer who can shoot with a very high damage and we all know that he own 10 Power Draw skill."
Why i can't play with 10 Power Draw and less accuracy and slower draw?
Do you think 10 Power Strike or 10 Power Throw or 13 Power Throw is a BUG? They have a good speed/accuracy and have the same most damage.

AT last
The Bow Difficulty will be reduced 14 WP not Power Draw.