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Offline Leshma

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2325 on: March 31, 2014, 03:48:57 pm »
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Is there a reason that my posted link is ignored where the head of the Ukrainian Jewish community thing says that media focus on the right wing members in the government is exaggerated cuz there is no real, mentionable right wing movement in the population as a whole?

Just wondering...

Not at the moment. But given enough time, there will be. That is why it's essential to keep extremists away from power, at margin where they should stay forever.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2326 on: March 31, 2014, 04:55:48 pm »
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Quite interesting that while Right Sector supported Euromaidan and was probably the most active part of it(at least when we talk about violent actions), it is not pro-EU and they don't want Ukraine to join EU.

If I was leader of Right Sector, I would be quite mad indeed... oh wait.


[...]it's essential to keep extremists away from power, at margin where they should stay forever.

Even if they were largely responsible for the success of said revolution? Cannon fodder for moderate power-grabber :)

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2327 on: March 31, 2014, 05:10:30 pm »
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Why should I believe a guy who deny the existence of right wing movement in Ukraine just because he is jewish?



Over-exaggerated or not, nationalist/fascist/cookies had a part in Maidan, and there is nationalist party members at ministers position in the government!
That could means two things, relative to what you said about people representation:


- the place given to right/far-right movement in the revolution government is proportionately higher than what the people want : in a democratic country, the power shouldnt be given to those that doesnt represent the people

- the place given to right/far-right movement in the revolution government is proportionately equal or lower than what the people want : they have high legitimacy and should stay and use their fonction to further their cause




If as you said, there is no mentionable right wing movement in Ukraine, then it should be the first situation.
Of course it serves to discredit the government to speak about possible far-right movements in new Kiev, but to totally deny their existence/influence and place of power is equally wrong.
You really are unable to process written information, aren't you? Unbelievable...

I'm out.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2328 on: March 31, 2014, 05:21:23 pm »
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Why the West is interested by Russia ?
Because in this century it will become a major power. The biggest country with a lot of minerals, oil and gaz + fertile lands even with warming climate. Without Russia, EU is dead in less than a century.
That's why we should think twice before joining US Empire, they just use us against Russia. They did it during WW2 and  during Cold War. US and UK do not want a continental alliance, they try to divide us until war.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2329 on: March 31, 2014, 05:44:36 pm »
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top lel.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2330 on: March 31, 2014, 06:35:36 pm »
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Tovi should get a one way ticket to Pyongyang

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2331 on: March 31, 2014, 06:58:09 pm »
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I prefer Cuba  8-)
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2332 on: March 31, 2014, 07:28:17 pm »
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For the cigar or for the 60 years long US embargo?  :P



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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2333 on: March 31, 2014, 08:41:56 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2334 on: March 31, 2014, 08:52:10 pm »
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«democratic forces» :evil:

What video were you meant to link, Ivanich? This one?

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Damn. Even if this isn't it that was something. Religion of peace huh. Fucking vermin
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2335 on: March 31, 2014, 09:36:35 pm »
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What video were you meant to link, Ivanich? This one?

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Damn. Even if this isn't it that was something. Religion of peace huh. Fucking vermin

Im not going to watch the video, but I would almost guess those are ISIS (foreigners). They're very extreme and are considered enemy by Syrian rebel groups. They were recently pushed out from Syria by the rebels (you can watch about it on Vice). No one likes ISIS. Even in Iraq anti-american rebels would help the US troops to defeat ISIS. Thats how bad they are.

Anyone that can confirm they are ISIS in the video?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2336 on: March 31, 2014, 09:39:09 pm »
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Well, about Syria :


An invasion is planned. Turkey may invade north Syria and occupy it for a while (like in north Chypria).
Just one thing to know : Al Qaida= CIA's commando , with a major tactic : False Flag Ops (wich is a part of Soft Power strategy)


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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2337 on: March 31, 2014, 10:11:51 pm »
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What video were you meant to link, Ivanich? This one?

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Damn. Even if this isn't it that was something. Religion of peace huh. Fucking vermin

Totally not okay to post a picture of a giant schlong, but that shit s fine...

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2338 on: April 01, 2014, 12:03:35 am »
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An invasion is planned. Turkey may invade north Syria and occupy it for a while (like in north Chypria).
Just one thing to know : Al Qaida= CIA's commando , with a major tactic : False Flag Ops (wich is a part of Soft Power strategy)


And beware Youtube. Post your videos on Rutube, it's safer ;)

So, was Osama the best CIA operative in the world?

Holy shit. That's stuff I heard from the Drunk, overdosed guy on the side of the street one day.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2339 on: April 01, 2014, 12:07:21 am »
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