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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 06:57:22 pm »
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How dare you suggest we be responsible for what our characters do and where they go in game.  Or that we actually adapt to what is happening on the battle field!!!

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2012, 05:22:29 pm »
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Might be worth noting that people that bring shields don't have to keep their shield up the entire time. I see so many people trying to stalk down an archer but they hold their shield up even between shots and the archer can simply backpeddle them with ease. I'm thinking it's somewhere around a 30% speed reduction with shield up, which is pretty considerable.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2012, 05:51:58 pm »
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8. Never ever in your life as 2hand hero jump, the jumper dies always.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2012, 02:56:55 pm »
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See?

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2012, 03:39:33 pm »
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Ignore all the 8 previous steps  and switch to your cavalry with mamluk horse !
Use pro hardcore X2win tactic against them and profit.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2012, 05:21:44 pm »
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One more tip:

Remember the forcefield on your shield is always active. This can be used in several ways:

1) if you are forced to change weapon and arrows are whistling about you, turn right as you do it. Your shield will be on the left side, so you're effectively moving your shield in front of you (Or between you and the archer) as you are changing weapon. This only accounts onehanded weapons.

2) If you want to run away while under fire, you can sometimes lower your shield but keep it turned between you and the enemy ranged.

+ more things I can't think of right now.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2012, 10:56:06 am »
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Bump because people seem not to realise that charging a light armored archer with high agility is not the best option...
(hmm, why does this sound reminiscent of ranged on a horse?)

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 08:32:48 pm »
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I'd like to expand on #7.

The enemy team is likely to have 2-5 archers alive during the battle, more of them will sprout from the ground towards the end of the fight. There will probably be a cav, some infantry, or a cylon who knew where you were the entire match, and he is coming to eliminate you so that he will have enough points for valor. If this is the case, your best option is to stay in an enclosed space and kill any invaders. The enemy archers might get careless and approach with the cylon. When you see an opening, go for the archer. Instinctively, many archers will turn and run when they get a whiff of your ball-sweat and determine the enormous capacity for housing such glands is bigger than they can handle. Now, pull out your rocks and use them to stun the archer into submission, then lay your blade deep inside his soft body. Repeat for any remaining archers. If there are horse archers on the other team, save everyone some time and suicide.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2013, 10:03:05 am »
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Bump. Please read this guide before posting anything in game balance discussion.  :rolleyes:

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2013, 11:25:39 am »
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1. Bring a shield.  Even a practice shield will absorb a few arrows and can save you.  A difficulty 1 shield can take even more.
This tactic seem pretty obvious and the average player who is tired of getting turned into a pincushion enough that he has to go to the forums for guidance has probably already considered shielding and wearing heavier armor.

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2.  If you can't bring a shield, stick by a teamie with a shield.  (Teamwork!?).  Sometimes you can spam:
[q][f][f] KEEP YOUR FORMATION
and
[q][f][w] SHIELD WALL
When there is cav, you stick by teamies with a pike, right?  When there are archers, stick by teamies with a shield.  Let them go up ladders first.  Let them take the lead when advancing on archer positions.  IT'S THEIR JOB.

If this is in battle, it will likely only be effective if the shielder in question is one of your buddies; and as if coordinating your movements with a random guy on a public server isn't hard enough, most experienced archers pick their targets well, and the prospect of shooting a straggler trying to hide behind his teammates shield is one that makes archers salivate at the mouth.

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4.  Bring a siege shield and make your own cover.  If you have several teamies do this, you can even build a pillow fort and hide-out!
This is probably a bad idea considering a siege shield weighs a significant amount and will make you run like a snail. Unless you're in a fixed location and plan on defending an enclosed location, I wouldn't recommend this

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5.  Practice dodging.  The zig-zag, the double-back, the random dance, the last-second juke, and the "non-dodge!"  Learn them well.
And know when to stop dodging as well, I believe it has been touched on in this thread, but the guys who do the least amount of fancy dodging antics get away a lot more times than the guys having mini-seizures on the battlefield.

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6. Wear heavier armor.  When all else fails, suit up and employ all of the above tactics with redoubled vigor.
Keep in mind this will slow you down, making you an easier target. Try to find a good balance between weight and protection, otherwise you could find yourself taking a lot more arrows than before.

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7. If the enemy TEAM has way more archers than you, you have 2 choices.  You can turtle up and hide behind cover (works for a while sometimes) or RUSH them.  Closing distance against a ranged-heavy team will help take their advantage away.
There are many more options for those who do not wish to taste the sting of an arrow or bolt; such as going archer and taking sweet revenge on the archers who targeted you. Going cavalry is another option, as you will quickly learn that you can make chop suey out of groups of inattentive archers while quickly making your retreat with little to no damage.

Knowing timing is also important, when archers are engaged with your teammates, it's the perfect time to help change the tide of battle while also having the satisfaction of cutting down those who hailed down hellfire on you. Calculate your risks, even if they don't see you, engaging more than 2 archers solo is a tough task. And lastly, remember that arrows are always incoming.
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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2013, 11:30:43 am »
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Telling 2handers not to run in straight lines is clearly racism. It's almost as bad as suggesting to  them to get a shield.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2013, 12:10:04 pm »
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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2013, 01:59:07 pm »
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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2013, 02:46:50 pm »
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If you wonder that you get hit while walking zigzag lines, the reason is that some archers have a brain. The hardst thing to hit  is the professional  random dancer.

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Re: [GUIDE] How to Defend against Archers/Xbows and not Become a Statistic
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2013, 02:51:56 pm »
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Lots of good suggestions here.  I actually just finished up a gen of archer, so I think I can re-phrase or elaborate on some of the tips...things that frustrated me as an archer.