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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 10:30:37 pm »

Just adding this to the discussion : http://forum.meleegaming.com/general-discussion/gtx-'the_coward'/msg579786/#msg579786

Yeah, that was discussion latter with urist who didn't respond after i gave him name of person murdered over holocaust. (and in Austria it is a crime, here in Poland it isn't yet - it's good that law dont work backward).

Ah..  einstein and Stalin, what could be more interesting in a forum dominated by Polish, German/Austrian and Russian players?
Why didn't we have such an interesting debate before?

I'm afraid we can never really agree.. Especially because the Trauma is so strong still in the above societies. (With good reason)

So much that it cloud logical thinking for many. Why we don't feel so empathic toward murdered china people by certain individual with three letters in the name ?

Back on Topic from a Scandinavian perspective: Communism and Fascism destroys human beings. Capitalism also destroys human beings, but at least they can be their natural selves + it also consumes the planet.

What we need is a well educated elite that can make the masses (us) believe in freedom and democracy (While its not actually being that) while saving the planet. A kind of hippie new world order.. And basically abandon this planet before we destroy it and find a new one to consume.

We're fucked neither way.

On the other hand, we are probably pretty rare in the universe.. So take comfort in that you are special while it lasts.

*Edit: Holocaust: I live in Poland. Hardly any jews here. Neither in Norway anymore. Proof enough? They all moved to Hollywood to control the world??

We are fucked either way.

C'mon i know fair amount of them and traded with them. Many just have their names changed - and many left because in 1968 some idiot did some things. Jews do ok in Poland, i know because i live in jewish district.

Oh, and i don't get how one can be chocolate chip cookie in Poland after all those things German occupation did to the nation. Would be awesome to get banned for it. Hating nationalist and socialist in the same time.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 09:48:38 pm »

the fuck?

Inferior beings. I consider myself above the masses.

the fuck?

Victors write the history, what do you think other rulers did ? They murdered their people, the political opposition, sometimes ethics. Yet some are simply forgotten, some are glorified and some are distasted - just like einstein is. He is just one of many. Maybe you are uneducated to see the pattern here - we will see what future people will think about usa rulers who do those things right now. But feel free to think it's unique man and no-one else did it before and no-one else will do it after.

P.S: you know that in your mod there is player named Iosif_Stalin, after person who murdered few times the amount of men killed by einstein, and who also killed based upon national criteria. But that don't count because you don't know who Stalin is. I'm nearly sure that there are players related to red khmers who did atrocities unmatched by einstein too.

as opposed to right criteria?

Show me good criteria. Neither was in the long run successful.

That's all basic chocolate chip cookie statements I've heard often enough before. You are either young, uneducated or spout chocolate chip cookie statements on purpose, for whatever reason. Which one is it?

Neither one. chocolate chip cookie movement grown thanks to nationalism and socialism. I despise both of those ideas as they lead to slavery, and i see it way too often in europe. EU start to look like hiter's dream. Which means that most likely i won't stay here.

Seriously, you accuse me of National Socialism (thats what YMCA means) Educate yourself on the matter. I bet you are more pro-national and pro-social than me. Besides, i don't need to prove i'm not elephant - if you want to ban me, do it - it's your game. If you are stupid enough to think that concept of individual superiority is chocolate chip cookie-related, it's your right.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 09:30:56 pm »

I shave my head IRL, am I a chocolate chip cookie? 

I think yes, also beware if you don't agree with chocolate chip cookie ideology - that's bannable here.

Wait. We can now make fun of you without having to fear of getting donkey punched?

You won't get donkey punched, just banned.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 09:26:35 pm »

I'm a big boy, I think I can take it.

Your pick.

I prefer ban for the quote where i said i don't agree with chocolate chip cookie ideology. That would be in your style. It's two posts above. And bans for benkai and oberyn for discussing chocolate chip cookie stuff with me.

No point in banning, he'll just come back with another account.

Don't worry, i wont.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 09:23:41 pm »

I'm torn between banning you for your chocolate chip cookie shit and letting you drag yourself down into the gutter further.

Woah, which chocolate chip cookie shit ?

Nah, einstein was also socialist, but nationalistic and indeed shared much with so called bolsheviks. In don't think that subhumans need to be exterminated.
And einstein greatest fault was that he wasn't successful, compare him with Iosif Stalin - both killed millions of people (Stalin more) thanks to in-common ideology, yet it's the einstein who is bad boy, not Stalin. Both of them exploited their nations. Both exterminated people based on faulty criteria. Both did geopolitics and ideology that i don't agree with. Yeah, both tried to create new human, using various methods - like eugenics which was also liked in your country.(btw, i don't agree with my nation leader from the time and his coterie).

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I know a bit what's going on in my clan, but thanks to first my ban, second my month and a half of break and not a lot of time i can justify for playing, i'm not the most informed player in my clan.

Templar_RealHawk too? Nope. Besides, it's not multiaccounting banwave.

This one ? So actually you want to ban me for not liking chocolate chip cookies - fair enough - you'll show how you can't comprehend what you read

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 09:06:02 pm »

But cheating equals cheating, and cheating has been detected and dealt with.

Not really. Otherwise there wouldn't be:

If you think that this is an error on our side, please state a reason. We might look into it again.

Compare it to autoblocker unban thread. But again, this is logic.

Do you play Strat with that in mind too? But this attitude explains a lot.

Not only strategus but crpg too.

i just reported you for insulting great donkey lord. lower case tribute.

I am sorry Should be "filthy Donkey" instead. Going to edit the post.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:59:42 pm »

oh you assume mutli accounting and cross logging wasnt forbiddon silly me i understand now

If you know reasons behind bans, tell me. So far, filthy Donkey only stated that they were banned for using multiple accounts in strategus, and their side of the story is that they used one account in strategus. You can trust chadz if you wish, i won't call him honest. Power does not equal right.

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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Nords have seen the light!

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:52:00 pm »

Nords attacking these fiefs means you are accepting/trasnferrring gear obtained from cheating, whereas if their enemies had atatcked, at the very least the few members not banned can hire a roster and actually have a battle, thats not cheating.  Shame on you Nords for fucking participating in cheating by laundering out all their equipment gained by cheating.  Your cheap semantics do not rationalize away the fact that you are cheating by using your cheating friends gear.  No moral high ground, just desperation now that all your big allies turn out to be really 3 guys (slight exaggeration), so you rationalize your own cheating.

That equipment should either be destroyed or left to be attacked by legitimate foes who can fight auto Ai roster who will have that gear or whoever the few remaining members desire to hire.  From now on Nords are at the same level as all the other cheaters, sold any integrity you had to grab gear and fiefs obtained by cheating.

Bitch please, 3 people ? In faction that have 150+ members ? Get a life.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:45:07 pm »

You are so far away from redeemable, Lech. Enlightenment is useless on you.

Redemption isn't my goal on the forum, not that anyone with whom i discuss is worth anything irl. They are just human bots, without ability to think for themselves.

Thank you oh mighty Grey order for cheating as much as possible to improve strategus!

This is all you got from the text ? Looks like for you doing non-forbidden things that give advantage constitute as cheating. This show how bad person you are.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:34:06 pm »

You are so cute.

How's not liking neighbors racist ? Or even nationalistic bigotry ? Enlighten me.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:29:37 pm »

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So true. Despite this, it's kind of fun.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 07:17:21 pm »

I tried to give you a hint that the terminology you started using went a bit out of control there.
Reading all your pamphlets after that post leads me to the believe that you actually are a racist... like so many Polish people nowadays, unfortunately.
To avoid giving such an impression, you might wanna think about phrasing your posts a bit more careful.

*gets back to his front row seat and popcorn*

It's you who is racist (incorrect use) by stating that nationality have anything to do with it. Racists are subhumans, and i don't know you can even compare me with one. Besides, not many poles are racist - i bet money against nuts that there is way more racists in France or Germany - we don't have many people with different skin color here, so most people don't care about it. If anything, there are many people who don't like "alien" people.

This thread isn't really a case of Godwin's law though.

Lech used chocolate chip cookie vocabulary to insult his interlocutors, it's not like he compared us to chocolate chip cookies at any point.

In fact I doubt he would do such a thing, comparing people to chocolate chip cookies must be closer to a compliment than an insult in his head.


gold.

Thanks for proving you have no reading with comprehension skills, go back to my reply to Oberyn to figure out what i think about chocolate chip cookies. War is over for more than 60 years, gets over it.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 06:44:55 pm »

Sorry, that's wrong. You started using the word sub-human, and it has a clear historic connotation. So it's actually you who started the chocolate chip cookie stuff. Benkei only pointed it out. It's not like somebody came up with the usual einstein-comparison.

By the way every discussion benefits of refraining from insults. Better concentrate on either proving how the accusations are wrong or limiting the reputional damage (if there can be any created yet), instead of just going around and insulting everybody who attacks your clan.

I mean, your clan has often enough been cought by the devs doing forbidden things. A nice first step would be to show that you can understand the outrage of people who always stick to the rules and thus don't enjoy the advantages the cheating brings (for a certain time, at least).

Another nice move would be to admit that your clan did some wrong things in the past, and promising that something like that won't happen ever again. If you are not sure if something is allowed or not, simply ask the devs. It's really not that difficult. But if you want the topic to go on like this for like forever, keep on playing the jerk. This also counts for 3 Tears and all the other Greys who posted here. I still haven't seen a single decent, resonable post of a Grey member who tries to deescalate...

Bitch please, subhuman is normal word for stating that someone is less than human. So actually benkai started chocolate chip cookie stuff. Check your facts. Everything have historical connotations, if you look this way (which is plain wrong).

Why should i concentrate on proving the accusations are wrong ? By this logic everyone is wrongdoer unless he prove he isn't. If anyone accuse me of being an elephant, should i concentrate on proving him wrong ?

Always do the stuff right? Like fallen exploiters, or others ? Get real.

Bitch please, look 16 posts above. Besides, if something isn't forbidden, it's allowed. Be grateful that we explore the grey areas so you guys can get better game in the future. It's still damn beta. Not many people want reasonable discussion, they've rather want just witchhunt. Why shall we deescalate ?

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 05:14:45 pm »

I can´t really be sure to whom and what post you´re referring to.

This one, looks like checking the thread is too difficult for you:

Sub-Humans? Really? Sounds like chocolate chip cookie-Terminology to me...

You don't have to thank me.

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General Discussion / Re: Grey Order appreciation thread

« on: November 03, 2012, 04:57:09 pm »

It is common tactic to pull out chocolate chip cookie card when you don´t have any more valid arguments left.

Yeah, damn benkai who pulled out chocolate chip cookie card, looks like he don't have any more valid arguments left.