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The Chamber of Tears / Re: message 2 a certain somebody thats middle aged and bald

« on: July 19, 2017, 06:47:29 am »

to say that niggardly old bastard isn't a clever way to skirt around the rules is laughable, and A_Dam_Nagger also needs a name change

if someone were to go around calling people niggards they would pretty well be banned because the hypocritical af admins decide in their banhappy circlejerk what is and is not offensive

I already brought up nagger needs a name change since he's in the Sloths.

dont make me continue this shit

mate you have not been following the context here

this thread is a completely separate instance from n166312huntertron900. that whole thread was just to autistically show that i can get away with honkyhunter but not n166312hunter

this thread has to do with spookyghost_ tag. as much as Niggardly means stingy, ungenerous, spookyghost means a paranormal being formed of white ectoplasm who scares people. If that definition of spooky ghost can allude to centuries of hatred and lynching then what can't

You should be forced to name change with anything that is racist, not just with friend in the name. Honky hunter is offensive and along with other names should be dealt with, but that won't happen.

FOR ALL THOSE THAT CAN'T READ, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT ADMINS SHOW A BIAS TOWARDS AND AGAINST CERTAIN PEOPLE, BENSAI IS COMPLAINING BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIAS AGAINST HIM AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS WHO ALSO DID OFFENSIVE THINGS BUT HAD NO ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THEM[/size]


hope that clears things up

I already said that.

I'm agreeing with you assington, I just don't think saying friend in chat/in names to get change will work when there is bias in the admins and the rules.

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The Chamber of Tears / Re: message 2 a certain somebody thats middle aged and bald

« on: July 19, 2017, 12:38:27 am »

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I didn't say you got banned for saying friend, your supposition that Sparvico is out to get you is unfounded, he's kicked me from the server before and he's even poll banned me before he was admin. He's doing what he thinks is right for the mod is all.

nig·gard·ly
ˈniɡərdlē/
adjective
1.
not generous; stingy.

His name isn't racist is the thing in itself, but it's a way to get around it. Yours did allude to being friend hunter with N 1 66 3 12 - This obviously says friend in l33t speak.

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If you live in your parents house is it really your house or theirs?

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The Chamber of Tears / Re: message 2 a certain somebody thats middle aged and bald

« on: July 18, 2017, 06:53:15 pm »

What if its a copper pot?

Deport that pot.

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The Chamber of Tears / Re: message 2 a certain somebody thats middle aged and bald

« on: July 18, 2017, 06:49:08 pm »

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Right, okay, but it's their mod and ultimately in the end you aren't able to do that. I wish I was able to say anything I want, but I can't. Do I hate it? Hell yeah I do. I only brought up what I said because it was unjust and needed to be brought up. Personally I'd just type whatever you want to say in admin chat to express your rage and whatnot, this'll allow you to say what you want and others to not be offended and the admins will see what you say and no one else. I'm sure you'll reply with people need to have thicker skin, which I do as well and multiple others, but in the end, the lower admins enforce the rules. They don't make them.

Don't be the pot that calls the kettle black and in this case don't be the pot that calls the kettle a friend.

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The Chamber of Tears / Re: message 2 a certain somebody thats middle aged and bald

« on: July 18, 2017, 03:44:03 am »

Not to stir more shit in this autistic thread, but there is an obvious bias in admins.

Example: 20 minutes ago, Colonys22: "lets kill these friends and their gay strats." While living and having an admin on his team, Pistachio (same clan), so following the round I ask, obviously trying to bait some sort of answer. "Is it okay to say friend w/o getting muted like Colonys?"

Instant mute. Sparvico is fine when it comes to this, but other things like this need to be addressed since the rules have been changed so "drastically" for some people.

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Faction Halls / Re: The Sloths! (NA/EU) (Recruiting) (Kingdom of Cute Squishy Faced Retarded Sloths)

« on: July 15, 2017, 06:21:38 am »

Live slow, Die whenever.

More sloths. MAXIMUM sloths.

We are growing rapidly in ranks and will soon encompass Acre. 

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General Discussion / Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins

« on: July 09, 2017, 10:09:50 am »

There is this message block system in Mercenaries, it doesn't have stuff like friend etc blocked, but milder stuff. Could we implement that to fit the harsh conditions of cRPG?

Everything would be blocked in one way or another if that was the case for cRPG.

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Faction Halls / Re: The Sloths! (NA/EU) (Recruiting) (Kingdom of Cute Squishy Faced Retarded Sloths)

« on: July 09, 2017, 05:54:12 am »

Fewer.

Wrong Führer

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Faction Halls / Re: The Sloths! (NA/EU) (Recruiting) (Kingdom of Cute Squishy Faced Retarded Sloths)

« on: July 07, 2017, 11:46:38 pm »

The Sloths are growing rapidly, will you be next in their ranks?

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General Discussion / Re: post urself irl

« on: July 07, 2017, 09:36:00 am »

Prom 2k16 imagine this but it not a beard and longer hair

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General Discussion / Re: Rules update, guidelines for admins

« on: July 06, 2017, 03:39:05 am »

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Let me just state beforehand that I am not going to discuss this particular rule with you as this is not some debate or academic setting where we're contesting ideas - it's a free mod in which the devs and admins have given me a free hand to reshape this specific rule as I see fit in order to combat a rising and troublesoume tendency in NA servers that was reported to me by both admins and players, and also frequently posted on forums (alone during those 2 weeks I saw 2 collages of NA chat being uncivilized). Therefore I made an authoritarian use of my power and did as I pleased, naturally asking for opinion from a few other admins and Dupre, but in the end, it was not a democratically or openly discussed change. We want to uphold a certain standard in this mod, but it goes beyond that in my opinion.

The rule itself is not up to debate and I appreciate that you can respect it, and to be honest even if you're lowkey baiting me you raise a valid point so let me go in hook, line and sinker.

I'll try to explain my reasoning without sounding like a cunt, thought as long as I get my point across that's irrelevant to me))

Your question actually inspired me a bit to look into why I treated racism and homophobia differently, only expanding upon the racism rules - and I also ignored things like sexism, pedophilia jokes, transphobic jokes.

I'm a hypocrite here, as yes, I don't treat those forms of discrimination equally, as you can clearly see from my OP. I believe I have my good reasons for that, and that in the end, the result will be a net positive, at the very least the situation will not become worse.

To start off, there's a reason why the rule itself remained unchanged for so long, and for the longest time, we thought it was enough that it said "No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing, spamming...)", because it was simple, and concise. So what was the problem? That it had probably 100 meanings according to 100 people. Such is the issue with seemingly "simple" rules. I felt the need to make it more precise, with the intention to cull a rising trend of frequent usage of racist slurs in NA servers. I know there are other slurs in use, but the quantity of racist ones was a bit shocking to me at first.

Ramsey Clark wrote a simple yet profound paragraph once regarding why having rules or laws is almost never enough, and I'll quote him: "The law can only express a goal. It cannot fulfill that goal. We impose too much on the law because it seems easy to say that something shall be and then expect it to be. But life does not work that way; it never did and it never will. It takes people and institutions and hard work to make things so. "

I didn't expand on that rule because I believe it'll end the discrimination issue once and for all in cRPG; I wrote it hoping to start some tendency, a possibility for change of the behaviour of people in cRPG. As Clark wrote, it requires people, institutions and hard work to make things so. Laws and rules shouldn't never be reduced to just being scarecrows for people - they should teach, show how to act, and guide them.

My main reason for tackling racism alone is the practical reason - there's just a much higher quantity of racist content in chat compared to other types of slurs or chat abuse, and I'd wager to say that majority of mutes and bans ever handed out for chat abuse were due to racism. Of course, it could also mean that possible chat abuse that didn't include racism wasn't as reported, or was possibly ignored or downplayed, but I'm not omnipotent to know that. It is however fair to assume that not everything is treated as equally "bad".
Also, related to this, is that racism is much less ingrained in the online culture than, say, words like "bundle of sticks" or "retard". I think it's important to not let it grow roots now, while we still can firmly stand against it, in turn putting up with the homophobia and other forms of discrimination.

I am not a fan of this status quo, but let's be frank here with each other - some offensive words have became part of the online gaming culture, and I am not going to wage war on that, instead I want to target something that I find inexcusable.

Not related to multiplayer gaming at all, but racism is, along with sexism, one of the "easier" forms of discrimination. You don't need to know much about the other person - it's enough to see them once and if you know their skin colour, your racist tendencies can arise, unlike say making fun of their sexual orientation which would require you to know a little more about them.

Another thing is that racism and sexism is hating a person for things they have absolutely no power over - you do not choose your sex, you do not choose your skin colour. I know the same thing can be said about your sexual orientation and other traits like mental condition et all, but those two stand out as something that you cannot hide - again, it does not completely apply to online interactions as you can just keep your mouth shut and never mention either of those things.

We talk of what we can do - "we', as in the admins. But what can you do? Change starts at the bottom, with the players in this case, showing that they are not ok with behaviour that contradicts the rules. Insulting is already against the rules, must we go into detail here as well and list out all the instances in which insulting is "indeed, not ok"? We can, but remember what I said earlier - law can never fulfill a goal. It can express it, it can express it much more clearly, or leave it open to interpretation. I decided to narrow it down in case of racist slurs, but that's it, at least for now. I had my practical reasons to do this, and trust me, I wish I didn't have to do it. I'd much rather leave the field open to admin interpretation to avoid silly situations in which a concrete rule causes a illogical situation, but sometimes we just can't have nice things.

I don't want to delve into human dignity in this wall of text, it's a very expansive subject with many contradictory points of views which don't make as much sense in online setting. I hope at least some of that made sense to you, in the end, it is (I want to believe) an adequate response to a problem. It's not a solve-it-all, but it's a start. However the rest is not up to me, it's up to you guys.

Late reply, but you can thank my brother for the collage he worked like an hour on it.

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General Discussion / Re: sparvico's day in the office

« on: July 03, 2017, 08:54:40 pm »

Typical night on NA. 

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Where was the big, bad, SJWplayer to stop this from happening?

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Spam / Re: The Temple of Spam

« on: July 03, 2017, 04:50:47 pm »

Typical night on NA. 

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General / Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM

« on: July 03, 2017, 02:47:49 pm »

chadz : shhsbauxmsnmsponsnsossk ,we kinda stole ur money, others : snahskmsbsjasnsdnzıspwnns , ok.
U donkey friend u probably have foreseen at the first place that okam was unable to make profit in long term anyway,but u still hyped these cancerous people like heskey,to make them buy the game.Although u knew that u were going to stop developping the game in short time,u still made these retards like heskey buy it.Half deformed staggering gratesque bodies of players like Heskey marched the closest bank and let banks suck their money for ur stupid shitty game.I am defending the honour of my fellow players (not heskey),ur snorting doesn't have any effect on me you foul creature of 6th level of inferno,u are a goddamn disgrace, these people thought that u were their omnipotent savior,and got on ur ship ,not knowing u would leave them on a desolated island.Ass u read this long read this too, i lay ur mother to doggy,my dick is 3 inch wide,i gape ur mother's ass 2 inch wide,because i want her to suffer as i cram my dick,ass she screams from the pain her ass signals to her brain through nervous system,i put ur sunglassed swissburglardrinkingbeer.jpg picture in front of her with a metal stick i gaped ur mom's ass, just like a carrot in front of a donkey ,seeing ur picture gratifies her in front and my dick hurts her from back,in these ambivalent feelings ur mother goes back and forth losing sensibility,craves for ur pic tries to kiss u but i pull her back every time she flinches.After we done she says i wished chadz didn't made okam and forced me into this revenge ,and i agree trying to say smt nice : okam is still good though if u are autist like heskey.

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Faction Halls / Re: The Sloths! (NA/EU) (Recruiting) (Kingdom of Cute Squishy Faced Retarded Sloths)

« on: July 02, 2017, 08:19:08 am »

I would like to formally submit my application to slothmy old friends, under 1 condition, make me not a virgin, mk? no butt stuff, female only, D cup+

jk im already in best clan NA, Chopas

Here at Sloths we are all fascists, so I don't think we could let any Antifa in, unless you really wanted to be in.

jk sax u suk