Since when was that abuse? As your entire argument hinges on that point.
Admins review all name changes before they approve them. That has always been the case. Part of this reason has been to prevent players from creating unacceptable names.
Now for a character you create brand new, admins do not get the same visibility. You don't have to wait for an admin's approval in order to start playing, so that's a good thing. But, as and when they become aware of a name that goes against the rules of cRPG, they reserve the right to change it. Since you were keen to point out you've been here since 2011, does any of this ring any bells? It's always been like this, that's always been within their remit, so in what sense is it suddenly now abuse?
I know for a fact in years gone by Panos has had his 'hilarious' names changed to equally 'hilarious' names by the admin or dev team.
If you're still determined to play dumb on the subject of 'Hitler' being banned, browse the forum for any Nazi or Hitler themed clans, their threads are typically locked and their authors muted. Or search the 'unban' section for people crying about being banned for having Nazi symbols on their banner, or for having names like yours in years gone by. Or, simply try typing the word 'Hitler' or 'Nazi' on this forum, even now you need to be creative to get around the filter.
cRPG has always treated these things separately, you really must be new as you're identifying that this 'Needs to be talked about' many years after a consensus was reached. Why should new devs be any different?
*from a quick lookup:
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/banned-for-offensive-name-name-changed-pls-unban/
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/ban-einstein_conqueror_of_paris/
Ah, of course I see it now! You must not be a fan of Wolfenstein either, see my previous posts about it not being the fact that the name had Hitl
er in, but the fact that I wanted to be the final boss of Wolfenstein 3D. I'll say it again, I could've started off with a worse tyrant had I wanted to troll, which I did not. I am a very big fan of Wolfenstein. Use some common sense and figure out that if you put 2 and 2 together it's not 6.
Side note: I've been much longer than you.
Is the name InFidel Castro taken?
Yes, F
idelCas
troIRL is taken by some archer.
At the end of the day an admin with no experience abused his power and I can't understand why that's bad. The alternative in every historical case I've seen where the character has Hitler in their name is to simply permanently ban the user and send them a PM telling them to change the name in order to be unbanned.
Desire. If this was a brand new game then you'd expect accounts to be left alone (though most games specify admins are within their rights to change a character's name etc).
Like Jona said, just because you develop something doesn't mean you're good at being an admin (which is basically customer service). Only a team in absolute agreement with each other, enforcing the same rules in the same ways with the same punishments could instil absolute confidence. I'm sure a couple would still flame on the basis that they simply don't like the rules (which is what a decent % of this thread is, OP doesnt think the punishment was fitting, but others are just here to talk about censorship and about how people shouldnt be offended by things), but overall that would be the best deal for everyone.
But that's never been cRPG. People are able to get away with a lot more here, and that includes both the way people behave in the server and the more inventive methods of punishment we've seen over the years. Rather than present a united front, admins have sometimes even been chosen to deliberately counterpoint each other. Eg. the community rages about current admins not enforcing X? Rather than overhaul the enforcement of that rule from every admin, they bring in a single new admin that will enforce that rule whilst the others won't. Then the admins butt heads and where do the players sit?
Ideologically, I never understood why you'd need to censor one dictator and not other objectively worse dictators. But that's not a matter of being thick skinned it's a matter of national law.
Fixed your post.
Y-y-y.. You mean like what happened? I cannot believe that I'd have to do what the admin says to be unbanned. The admin that issued the ban unbanned me, someone outside of the incident used his power to further alter my account after action had already been taken/reversed.
When people think they should have special privileges to break the rules
When people cannot beat Nocturnal Missions.
okay I'll kinda just toss my penny in here and state some things.
- first and foremost I am no longer a member of the admin team and definitely not speaking for them...
Seadle: I half agree with you on certain conditional things. However, the initial name itself is what put you in this situation. The fact remains had you not decided to skurt the gray areas of the rules; ones that aren't even so gray mind you. You could not have possibly been put in this position, where a dev toyed with certain aspects of your account. Drawing attention to yourself is where you went wrong; enough attention that a person with the abilities to do said things to your account took notice. I hope you see that you are indeed 100% at fault for putting yourself right here.
Now the tricky part; Yes Horns trolled you. He changed certain aspects of your account and that in my mind is totally unacceptable. I, like many others before me, practiced unorthodox punishments, none that threatened the integrity of anyone's account though. Horns shouldn't have changed your name manually, he shouldn't have removed the skip the fun status of the character either. That said none of this is without precedent... Other devs in the past have practiced said trolling to specific people in the past... people of more infamy than you certainly but times have changed. This doesn't make horns wrong and it definitely doesn't make him right either.
In all, I'm sitting about 60-70% in favor of Seadle that any messing with accounts by devs should be blocked unless otherwise NEEDED or REQUESTED.
The normal process of forcing name changes was not followed and I think that is where people like Gristle an old player is finding un-comfort with. I think many people are confused as to what happened here and why Seadle is saying it needs to be talked about. The main issue here is that Seadle's ban record is relatively clean if not clear and a dev with zero experience decided to alter minor aspects of the account which puts a spot light on the moral integrity of said dev... People begin to question whether or not they can trust this person and when people that don't break the rules begin to question the moral integrity of a community leader things can get messy.
I know I am not well liked to say the least but If anyone takes anything I say seriously anymore I would highly advise against minor alterations of people's accounts as that type of manual enforcement appears biased and can never lead to a solid good outcome.
Unadvisable really.
I'll go back to not being serious about anything now.
I love you, bb, don't worry what others say. You also make solid points, I understand completely that I placed myself in this situation, but I also got myself out by doing what Sparvico had said and changing my name, I've never had any issues with admins up until now, and if it is unclear on what I mean by "This needs to be talked about"; it's that the current admin team needs to be reviewed and thank you bringing up my SPOTLESS ban record. :^)
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