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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 06:39:58 pm

Title: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 06:39:58 pm

Long story short. Had a meeting with LLJK yesterday that lasted 1 minute before they ran away and cried.

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[10:57] <Ecko_> hey man i dunno what happened...but you do know that it was a vote, i wasn't the one who made the call
[10:58] <PhantomZero> i was really confused too
[10:58] <PhantomZero> you kind of made it look like it was only the hosperglers who would vote no and you could convince them to make it yes and unanimous.
[10:58] <PhantomZero> plus the lack of communication leading up to the meeting kind of kept us in the dark
[10:59] <Ecko_> id like to come into ts and talk about it if you got the time
[10:59] <Ecko_> or if you want to
[10:59] <PhantomZero> im actually making lunch right now
[10:59] <PhantomZero> why did you have canary talk first anyways
[11:00] <PhantomZero> i didnt even understand what he was trying to say other than "no we aren't going to help you guys"
[11:00] <Ecko_> you guys left before we even finished, just because we said we didnt want to ally didnt mean didnt want to do trading
[11:00] <PhantomZero> fuck trading
[11:00] <Ecko_> merc battles we also something we were going to discuss
[11:00] <PhantomZero> it was discussed
[11:00] <PhantomZero> you said you werent going to help us in our wars
[11:01] <PhantomZero> by mercing for us
[11:01] <Ecko_> we were going to go off each battle and decide if we could help or not
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask canary
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask anyone
[11:01] <PhantomZero> what a dumb idea
[11:01] <PhantomZero> thats not how it works
[11:02] <PhantomZero> do you want LLJK to go off each battle
[11:02] <PhantomZero> and decide if we could help or not?
[11:02] <PhantomZero> we spent months trying to get LLJK members to even agree to join up for Northern Empire battles
[11:03] <PhantomZero> and then we get pulled into vent and slapped in the face
[11:03] <Ecko_> you left before we could finish, i really didnt want it to be like that
[11:03] <PhantomZero> what exactly did you want us to do
[11:03] <PhantomZero> sit there and take it or something?
[11:04] <PhantomZero> listening to some boring dummy using too many words to describe how we were going to get fucked
[11:04] <Ecko_> get fucked?
[11:04] <Ecko_> how was saying we arn't going to ally someone totally fucking you? we didnt declare war
[11:04] <Ecko_> we didnt go around parading saying lljk, fee game to the community
[11:04] <Ecko_> free*
[11:05] <Ecko_> we wanted to talk and figure out a way to work together, but let you do your think, something you clearly reminded everyone that would be something you wanted to do
[11:05] <PhantomZero> well it sounded like you wanted all the benefits of having us in our clan
[11:05] <PhantomZero> without actually helping us out at all
[11:05] <Ecko_> you got that in less than 1 minute?
[11:05] <PhantomZero> canary said a lot of words
[11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:06] <PhantomZero> exactly
[11:06] <PhantomZero> what else is there to talk about?
[11:06] <Ecko_> trading, something your gonna need reguardless...merc agreements, defensive pacts
[11:06] <PhantomZero> defensive pact
[11:06] <PhantomZero> you are on the other side of the  world
[11:07] <Ecko_> you asked, those are things to talk about
[11:07] <Ecko_> we had all the leaders together, for the first time
[11:07] <PhantomZero> yes, all of those things would benefit the northern empire
[11:07] <Ecko_> to talk about solutions
[11:07] <Ecko_> you guys just bailed
[11:07] <Ecko_> false
[11:07] <PhantomZero> you wouldnt support us in any wars
[11:07] <PhantomZero> whats the point of a defensive pact
[11:08] <PhantomZero> or merc agreements
[11:08] <Ecko_> [11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:08] <Ecko_> there are ways of helping without declaring official alliance or joining a war against someone
[11:08] <PhantomZero> we dont care about an official alliance
[11:09] <Ecko_> apparently you do
[11:09] <PhantomZero> but not helping us and by reviewing battles on a case by case basis
[11:09] <PhantomZero> is something we cannot support
[11:09] <Ecko_> then thats your problem....go luck finding someone else in game who does it differently
[11:09] <Ecko_> good*
[11:10] <PhantomZero> if you are going to review your agreements in trade/mercing/defensive pact on a case by case basis, we can't trust you
[11:10] <PhantomZero> of course nobody does it differently
[11:10] <Ecko_> there were 6 people who represented everyone else, there to talk about solutions, ways to help you and figure out a way so everyone could benifit the way they wanted
[11:10] <PhantomZero> but nobody says that to your face
[11:11] <PhantomZero> ways to help us
[11:11] <PhantomZero> by not mercing
[11:11] <PhantomZero> not supporting us in wars
[11:11] <PhantomZero> and only through trade?
[11:11] <Ecko_> i dunno...talks didnt get that far did they?
[11:11] <Ecko_> the only thing that was said and is official is that we wern't going to ally, we wern't going to join your wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> kinda like what we did with drz...they liked the deal
[11:12] <Ecko_> they got to do their thing and get a defense agreement
[11:12] <Ecko_> be never joined their wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> never allied
[11:12] <Ecko_> WOW look at that, a way everyone benifited
[11:12] <Ecko_> and it wasnt a secret
[11:12] <PhantomZero> but it was never tested
[11:12] <Ecko_> everyone in the game knew about it
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes it was
[11:12] <Ecko_> many times
[11:13] <PhantomZero> how so
[11:14] <Ecko_> when drz was attacked, the northern republic was obligated to show up and defend if it was during NA time zones, and DRZ was obligated to show up during EU time zones to defend us. We never exchanged gear, never wared people together, or allied, or did anythng else
[11:14] <Ecko_> the republic was never atacked
[11:14] <Ecko_> DRZ was and we showed up
[11:14] <Ecko_> people thought we were allied, drz made it clear and so did i that we were not taking offensive manuevers together
[11:15] <Ecko_> THAT is something we could have done
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so you just show up whenever someone comes and attacks land already owned by DRZ?
[11:15] <Ecko_> no matter who
[11:15] <PhantomZero> thats joining a war
[11:15] <Ecko_> false
[11:15] <Ecko_> never took an offensive
[11:15] <Ecko_> never provided gear
[11:15] <PhantomZero> what do you mean false
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so what
[11:15] <Ecko_> thats something we could have done for you, and could have explained but you guys fuckin left man
[11:15] <PhantomZero> wars arent always aggressive wars
[11:15] <Ecko_> what if UIF comes to take you out
[11:16] <PhantomZero> because its dumb doublespeak
[11:16] <Ecko_> are you on the offensive or defensive?
[11:16] <Ecko_> hell what if the mercs magically had hundreds of players
[11:16] <PhantomZero> then they will have fun playing at 150 ping at awkward times
[11:16] <Ecko_> and moved towards you or anyone
[11:17] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
[11:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
[11:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles
[11:17] <Ecko_> you guys burnt the bridge, not us. We were there to talk, we didnt think that becoming allies was a good solution for anyone. You stated that you didnt want to become part of the alliance and wanted to remain individual, but would try hard to make it work.
[11:18] <Ecko_> As far as i'm concerned, we were coming with a solution that would make everyone mutually happy.
[11:18] <PhantomZero> we just felt blindsided by what occured
[11:19] <Ecko_> and i'm sorry, but who were the ones coming to me saying lets get the ball moving, lets make things official? when i constantly said i'm not doing anything with strategus right now...lets give people time to think it over
[11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:19] <Ecko_> False, gaga the night before came into my vent
[11:19] <Ecko_> said lets have a meeting tomorrow
[11:19] <PhantomZero> only because goretooth came to us about it
[11:20] <Ecko_> [11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> I am not goretooth
[11:20] <PhantomZero> okay fine
[11:20] <PhantomZero> ATS came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> and what did goretooth say?
[11:20] <Ecko_> gaga had come to me numerous times phantom
[11:20] <PhantomZero> that we should ally long enough to rush the merc territories in order to prevent the UIF from retaliating against either one of us
[11:21] <Ecko_> AGAIN, thats the plan gaga presented to us.
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its a good plan
[11:21] <PhantomZero> but if you guys wont support us in any wars
[11:21] <Ecko_> im not debating if it is or isnt
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its not going to work
[11:21] <PhantomZero> so
[11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:22] <PhantomZero> you werent the one insulted and lied to
[11:23] <Ecko_> your not stupid...you know what i'm saying is making sense...and you know damn well that the meeting didnt last long enough for anything really to be discussed...Even you were surprised when gaga left
[11:23] <Ecko_> name one lie. You were just surprised.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> there wasnt anything to discuss
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if you arent going to help us out, then there isn't any point in trading
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if we become reliant on ats trade and you suddenly decide that it is no longer in your best interested
[11:23] <Ecko_> Guess we live in a world of black and white....nothing else to talk about then. Your lunch is probably getting cold.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> we get fucked
[11:24] <PhantomZero> its a cold lunch anyways
[11:24] <PhantomZero> a defensive war is still a war
[11:25] <Ecko_> ATS is the 2nd smallest guild in the empire....all I do man is try and get things going. For you to put all of this on me is retarded. Especially when there were 5 other people who wanted to discuss things.
[11:25] <Ecko_> [11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:25] <PhantomZero> canary said you guys werent intersted
[11:26] <Ecko_> Wouldn't have been nice if you asked everyone yourself...oh wait you left before you could.
[11:26] <PhantomZero> all them hurf derfin run away train goons
[11:26] <PhantomZero> uncontrollable goon horde who knows what shenanigans they gonna get themselves into
[11:27] <PhantomZero> but were willing to maintain trade and defensive pacts
[11:27] <PhantomZero> y/n?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: gallemore on June 19, 2011, 06:54:47 pm

I love Ecko, I love his cock in and around my mouth. But you know who likes it more? Phantom. He loves cum-guzzling, he knows protein shakes make you big and strong. Strategus here we come.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 06:56:46 pm

LOL!
Quality work Ecko.
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In other news, they continue the whining in their homes.  And now the cRPG site is having DDOS issues.  Coincidence?  Not when goons are involved I wager.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3409486&pagenumber=57#lastpost

<hellowroldJan 08, 2011>
yeah I would like to know if you can be banned ingame for doing stuff on the forum's, I want to go hog wild but then again I want to leech on NA siege..

<Captain ClassicalOct 27, 2010>
I don't actually want to poo poo up the forums with spam, that was a legitimate concern I had with his little fanclub website. I just ended up expressing it in the most vulgar way possible, luckily we now have damug advocating for freedom of speech.

<hellowroldJan 08, 2011>
On the other hand I do want to poo poo up the forums.

<damugJun 21, 2004>
The ship is sinking. Abandon ship.

<RikthorSep 28, 2008>
They locked the thread before I could submit my reply about them hating the gays and Ecko whining. I wanted to try and get muted as well
e: PhantomZero you have been called out in some very long irc convo here byt Grand Lord Apostle Ecko the Holy.

<FellbladeApr 28, 2009>
I wish I was as cool a dude as Gorath.

(I know Fellblade, I know)

<hellowroldJan 08, 2011>
i'm ddosing CRPG right now because of that chatlog ecko leaked!
 
CRPG IS GOING DOWJ

<Captain ClassicalOct 27, 2010>
Now I kind of agree with Loki, poo poo.

<PhantomZeroSep 07, 2007>
Let this not get in the way of our most joyous tournament approaching, for we will need Champions in the days head.
 
Ecko is trying to ruin our reputation amongst the other clans, but he doesn't realize we don't have one to ruin.

He is only making himself look bad by posting "private" chatlogs, which are about as believable as photoshops and effective as internet petitions.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: okiN on June 19, 2011, 06:58:15 pm

I see the drama llama is on a rampage in NA.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:00:38 pm

Quote from: okiN on June 19, 2011, 06:58:15 pm

I see the drama llama is on a rampage in NA.

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Baby Goon:  Momma, why does being a fuckwit shatting all over the place backfire and get us kicked out of parties?
Momma Goon:  I don't know son, just keep pissing in the punch bowl

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: LLJK_Fellblade on June 19, 2011, 07:01:12 pm

CRPG is srsbsns.

Can't trust dem goons because of all the times they have backstabbed and scammed.  Oh wait.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: hellowrold on June 19, 2011, 07:03:51 pm

you missed out the part were you say that declaring war on the mercs was your idea~

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:04:51 pm

Here comes damage controll   :lol:

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Damug on June 19, 2011, 07:05:31 pm

Any clans recruiting, I'm looking for a new internet home.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: arab on June 19, 2011, 07:09:36 pm

You should change the thread title to "Why you don't attempt to ally with ATS"

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 07:10:45 pm

well mercs are warned, they'll have at least lljk looking for taking their lands, oh and yes, lljk are willing to stand against UIF

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:12:52 pm

Quote from: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 07:10:45 pm

well mercs are warned, they'll have at least lljk looking for taking their lands

Them and what allies... owait.  trololo

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Damug on June 19, 2011, 07:13:33 pm

Quote from: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 07:10:45 pm

well mercs are warned, they'll have at least lljk looking for taking their lands

Quote from: hellowrold on June 19, 2011, 07:03:51 pm

you missed out the part were you say that declaring war on the mercs was your idea~

reading comprehension is for suckers.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rikthor on June 19, 2011, 07:14:33 pm

Quote from: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 07:10:45 pm

well mercs are warned, they'll have at least lljk looking for taking their lands

Sorry bronamoth that is a complete Northern Empire deal. Since we are not a part of it, I don't think so.

Ecko, shouldn't you be crying to mods about how Goons made for of your terrible website or how Goons voted you off the island in Darkfall? Also, really, editing out parts of the irc convo? Come on now.

e: Gorath - BLOO BLOO BLOO

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 07:18:32 pm

Quote from: hellowrold on June 19, 2011, 07:03:51 pm

you missed out the part were you say that declaring war on the mercs was your idea~

I dunno if you're being lied to or not. But Gaga came into vent weeks ago saying we know ATS wants to kill us, maybe we should work together instead, i asked how and thats what he said. Nothing edited sir.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:20:01 pm

Quick goonlings, to the forums!  visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Look at you all viewing the topic.  If only ya'll could organize like this when it mattered, like in-game (and buy some skill).

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 07:20:52 pm

well, evidence is evidence, give an evidence and i'll believe you :)

atm ecko gave his and he didn't betray his contracts during the last strategus, so i have no reason to doubt about what he quoted, just stating facts :)

if you have another evidence proving that you weren't going against uif it'd be nice too

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: gallemore on June 19, 2011, 07:22:04 pm

Phantom still loves Ecko's pee pee in his mouth, I do believe what happened on that IRC was a complete facial. I know I always enjoy being showered with a hot load. Phantom looked like he did too.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: arab on June 19, 2011, 07:22:51 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 07:18:32 pm

Nothing edited sir.

heh

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Session Start: Sun Jun 19 11:57:26 2011
Session Ident: Ecko_
[11:57] Session Ident: Ecko_ (QuakeNet, PhantomZero) ([email protected])
[11:57] <Ecko_> hey man i dunno what happened...but you do know that it was a vote, i wasn't the one who made the call
01[11:57] <PhantomZero> i was really confused too
01[11:58] <PhantomZero> you kind of made it look like it was only the hosperglers who would vote no and you could convince them to make it yes and unanimous.
01[11:58] <PhantomZero> plus the lack of communication leading up to the meeting kind of kept us in the dark
[11:58] <Ecko_> id like to come into ts and talk about it if you got the time
[11:58] <Ecko_> or if you want to
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> im actually making lunch right now
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> why did you have canary talk first anyways
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> i didnt even understand what he was trying to say other than "no we aren't going to help you guys"
[11:59] <Ecko_> you guys left before we even finished, just because we said we didnt want to ally didnt mean didnt want to do trading
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> fuck trading
[12:00] <Ecko_> merc battles we also something we were going to discuss
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> it was discussed
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> you said you werent going to help us in our wars
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> by mercing for us
[12:01] <Ecko_> we were going to go off each battle and decide if we could help or not
[12:01] <Ecko_> ask canary
[12:01] <Ecko_> ask anyone
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> what a dumb idea
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> thats not how it works
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> do you want LLJK to go off each battle
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> and decide if we could help or not?
01[12:02] <PhantomZero> we spent months trying to get LLJK members to even agree to join up for Northern Empire battles
01[12:02] <PhantomZero> and then we get pulled into vent and slapped in the face
[12:02] <Ecko_> you left before we could finish, i really didnt want it to be like that
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> what exactly did you want us to do
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> sit there and take it or something?
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> listening to some boring dummy using too many words to describe how we were going to get fucked
[12:03] <Ecko_> get fucked?
[12:04] <Ecko_> how was saying we arn't going to ally someone totally fucking you? we didnt declare war
[12:04] <Ecko_> we didnt go around parading saying lljk, fee game to the community
[12:04] <Ecko_> free*
[12:04] <Ecko_> we wanted to talk and figure out a way to work together, but let you do your think, something you clearly reminded everyone that would be something you wanted to do
01[12:04] <PhantomZero> well it sounded like you wanted all the benefits of having us in our clan
01[12:04] <PhantomZero> without actually helping us out at all
[12:05] <Ecko_> you got that in less than 1 minute?
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> canary said a lot of words
[12:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> exactly
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> what else is there to talk about?
[12:06] <Ecko_> trading, something your gonna need reguardless...merc agreements, defensive pacts
01[12:06] <PhantomZero> defensive pact
01[12:06] <PhantomZero> you are on the other side of the  world
[12:06] <Ecko_> you asked, those are things to talk about
[12:07] <Ecko_> we had all the leaders together, for the first time
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> yes, all of those things would benefit the northern empire
[12:07] <Ecko_> to talk about solutions
[12:07] <Ecko_> false
[12:07] <Ecko_> you guys just bailed
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> you wouldnt support us in any wars
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> whats the point of a defensive pact
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> or merc agreements
[12:07] <Ecko_> [11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[12:08] <Ecko_> there are ways of helping without declaring official alliance or joining a war against someone
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> we dont care about an official alliance
[12:08] <Ecko_> apparently you do
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> but not helping us and by reviewing battles on a case by case basis
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> is something we cannot support
[12:09] <Ecko_> then thats your problem....go luck finding someone else in game who does it differently
[12:09] <Ecko_> good*
01[12:09] <PhantomZero> if you are going to review your agreements in trade/mercing/defensive pact on a case by case basis, we can't trust you
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> of course nobody does it differently
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> but nobody says that to your face
[12:10] <Ecko_> there were 6 people who represented everyone else, there to talk about solutions, ways to help you and figure out a way so everyone could benifit the way they wanted
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> ways to help us
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> by not mercing
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> not supporting us in wars
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> and only through trade?
[12:11] <Ecko_> i dunno...talks didnt get that far did they?
[12:11] <Ecko_> the only thing that was said and is official is that we wern't going to ally, we wern't going to join your wars
[12:11] <Ecko_> kinda like what we did with drz...they liked the deal
[12:11] <Ecko_> they got to do their thing and get a defense agreement
[12:11] <Ecko_> be never joined their wars
[12:12] <Ecko_> never allied
[12:12] <Ecko_> WOW look at that, a way everyone benifited
01[12:12] <PhantomZero> but it was never tested
[12:12] <Ecko_> and it wasnt a secret
[12:12] <Ecko_> everyone in the game knew about it
[12:12] <Ecko_> yes
[12:12] <Ecko_> yes it was
[12:12] <Ecko_> many times
01[12:12] <PhantomZero> how so
[12:13] <Ecko_> when drz was attacked, the northern republic was obligated to show up and defend if it was during NA time zones, and DRZ was obligated to show up during EU time zones to defend us. We never exchanged gear, never wared people together, or allied, or did anythng else
[12:13] <Ecko_> the republic was never atacked
[12:13] <Ecko_> DRZ was and we showed up
[12:14] <Ecko_> people thought we were allied, drz made it clear and so did i that we were not taking offensive manuevers together
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> so you just show up whenever someone comes and attacks land already owned by DRZ?
[12:14] <Ecko_> no matter who
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> thats joining a war
[12:14] <Ecko_> THAT is something we could have done
[12:14] <Ecko_> false
[12:14] <Ecko_> never took an offensive
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> what do you mean false
[12:14] <Ecko_> never provided gear
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> so what
01[12:15] <PhantomZero> wars arent always aggressive wars
[12:15] <Ecko_> thats something we could have done for you, and could have explained but you guys fuckin left man
01[12:15] <PhantomZero> because its dumb doublespeak
[12:15] <Ecko_> are you on the offensive or defensive?
[12:15] <Ecko_> what if UIF comes to take you out
[12:16] <Ecko_> hell what if the mercs magically had hundreds of players
01[12:16] <PhantomZero> then they will have fun playing at 150 ping at awkward times
[12:16] <Ecko_> and moved towards you or anyone
01[12:16] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles
[12:17] <Ecko_> you guys burnt the bridge, not us. We were there to talk, we didnt think that becoming allies was a good solution for anyone. You stated that you didnt want to become part of the alliance and wanted to remain individual, but would try hard to make it work.
[12:17] <Ecko_> As far as i'm concerned, we were coming with a solution that would make everyone mutually happy.
01[12:18] <PhantomZero> we just felt blindsided by what occured
[12:18] <Ecko_> and i'm sorry, but who were the ones coming to me saying lets get the ball moving, lets make things official? when i constantly said i'm not doing anything with strategus right now...lets give people time to think it over
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[12:19] <Ecko_> False, gaga the night before came into my vent
[12:19] <Ecko_> said lets have a meeting tomorrow
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> only because goretooth came to us about it
[12:19] <Ecko_> [11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> okay fine
[12:19] <Ecko_> I am not goretooth
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> ATS came to us to start it
[12:20] <Ecko_> and what did goretooth say?
01[12:20] <PhantomZero> that we should ally long enough to rush the merc territories in order to prevent the UIF from retaliating against either one of us
[12:20] <Ecko_> gaga had come to me numerous times phantom
[12:21] <Ecko_> AGAIN, thats the plan gaga presented to us.
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> its a good plan
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> but if you guys wont support us in any wars
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> its not going to work
[12:21] <Ecko_> im not debating if it is or isnt
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> so
[12:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
01[12:22] <PhantomZero> you werent the one insulted and lied to
[12:22] <Ecko_> your not stupid...you know what i'm saying is making sense...and you know damn well that the meeting didnt last long enough for anything really to be discussed...Even you were surprised when gaga left
[12:22] <Ecko_> name one lie. You were just surprised.
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> there wasnt anything to discuss
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> if you arent going to help us out, then there isn't any point in trading
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> if we become reliant on ats trade and you suddenly decide that it is no longer in your best interested
[12:23] <Ecko_> Guess we live in a world of black and white....nothing else to talk about then. Your lunch is probably getting cold.
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> we get fucked
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> its a cold lunch anyways
01[12:24] <PhantomZero> a defensive war is still a war
[12:24] <Ecko_> ATS is the 2nd smallest guild in the empire....all I do man is try and get things going. For you to put all of this on me is retarded. Especially when there were 5 other people who wanted to discuss things.
[12:25] <Ecko_> [11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
01[12:25] <PhantomZero> canary said you guys werent intersted
[12:25] <Ecko_> Wouldn't have been nice if you asked everyone yourself...oh wait you left before you could.
01[12:25] <PhantomZero> all them hurf derfin run away train goons
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> uncontrollable goon horde who knows what shenanigans they gonna get themselves into
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> you made it sound like you guys already had your vote
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> and it was a done deal
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> you werent going to be able to help us
01[12:27] <PhantomZero> but were willing to maintain trade and defensive pacts
01[12:27] <PhantomZero> y/n?
01[12:37] <PhantomZero> well whatever, defensive pacts and trade aren't in our best interests, a little forewarning would have been nice or a little more notice maybe. I thought we were just being called in there to hear the verdict regarding the thing we spent months trying to set up. It was no, so we left.
01[12:46] <PhantomZero> we'll talk later when im not hungry
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> haha
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> classy
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> well I guess that ends that
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> in the words of lady gaga

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[10:57] <Ecko_> hey man i dunno what happened...but you do know that it was a vote, i wasn't the one who made the call
[10:58] <PhantomZero> i was really confused too
[10:58] <PhantomZero> you kind of made it look like it was only the hosperglers who would vote no and you could convince them to make it yes and unanimous.
[10:58] <PhantomZero> plus the lack of communication leading up to the meeting kind of kept us in the dark
[10:59] <Ecko_> id like to come into ts and talk about it if you got the time
[10:59] <Ecko_> or if you want to
[10:59] <PhantomZero> im actually making lunch right now
[10:59] <PhantomZero> why did you have canary talk first anyways
[11:00] <PhantomZero> i didnt even understand what he was trying to say other than "no we aren't going to help you guys"
[11:00] <Ecko_> you guys left before we even finished, just because we said we didnt want to ally didnt mean didnt want to do trading
[11:00] <PhantomZero> fuck trading
[11:00] <Ecko_> merc battles we also something we were going to discuss
[11:00] <PhantomZero> it was discussed
[11:00] <PhantomZero> you said you werent going to help us in our wars
[11:01] <PhantomZero> by mercing for us
[11:01] <Ecko_> we were going to go off each battle and decide if we could help or not
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask canary
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask anyone
[11:01] <PhantomZero> what a dumb idea
[11:01] <PhantomZero> thats not how it works
[11:02] <PhantomZero> do you want LLJK to go off each battle
[11:02] <PhantomZero> and decide if we could help or not?
[11:02] <PhantomZero> we spent months trying to get LLJK members to even agree to join up for Northern Empire battles
[11:03] <PhantomZero> and then we get pulled into vent and slapped in the face
[11:03] <Ecko_> you left before we could finish, i really didnt want it to be like that
[11:03] <PhantomZero> what exactly did you want us to do
[11:03] <PhantomZero> sit there and take it or something?
[11:04] <PhantomZero> listening to some boring dummy using too many words to describe how we were going to get fucked
[11:04] <Ecko_> get fucked?
[11:04] <Ecko_> how was saying we arn't going to ally someone totally fucking you? we didnt declare war
[11:04] <Ecko_> we didnt go around parading saying lljk, fee game to the community
[11:04] <Ecko_> free*
[11:05] <Ecko_> we wanted to talk and figure out a way to work together, but let you do your think, something you clearly reminded everyone that would be something you wanted to do
[11:05] <PhantomZero> well it sounded like you wanted all the benefits of having us in our clan
[11:05] <PhantomZero> without actually helping us out at all
[11:05] <Ecko_> you got that in less than 1 minute?
[11:05] <PhantomZero> canary said a lot of words
[11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:06] <PhantomZero> exactly
[11:06] <PhantomZero> what else is there to talk about?
[11:06] <Ecko_> trading, something your gonna need reguardless...merc agreements, defensive pacts
[11:06] <PhantomZero> defensive pact
[11:06] <PhantomZero> you are on the other side of the  world
[11:07] <Ecko_> you asked, those are things to talk about
[11:07] <Ecko_> we had all the leaders together, for the first time
[11:07] <PhantomZero> yes, all of those things would benefit the northern empire
[11:07] <Ecko_> to talk about solutions
[11:07] <Ecko_> you guys just bailed
[11:07] <Ecko_> false
[11:07] <PhantomZero> you wouldnt support us in any wars
[11:07] <PhantomZero> whats the point of a defensive pact
[11:08] <PhantomZero> or merc agreements
[11:08] <Ecko_> [11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:08] <Ecko_> there are ways of helping without declaring official alliance or joining a war against someone
[11:08] <PhantomZero> we dont care about an official alliance
[11:09] <Ecko_> apparently you do
[11:09] <PhantomZero> but not helping us and by reviewing battles on a case by case basis
[11:09] <PhantomZero> is something we cannot support
[11:09] <Ecko_> then thats your problem....go luck finding someone else in game who does it differently
[11:09] <Ecko_> good*
[11:10] <PhantomZero> if you are going to review your agreements in trade/mercing/defensive pact on a case by case basis, we can't trust you
[11:10] <PhantomZero> of course nobody does it differently
[11:10] <Ecko_> there were 6 people who represented everyone else, there to talk about solutions, ways to help you and figure out a way so everyone could benifit the way they wanted
[11:10] <PhantomZero> but nobody says that to your face
[11:11] <PhantomZero> ways to help us
[11:11] <PhantomZero> by not mercing
[11:11] <PhantomZero> not supporting us in wars
[11:11] <PhantomZero> and only through trade?
[11:11] <Ecko_> i dunno...talks didnt get that far did they?
[11:11] <Ecko_> the only thing that was said and is official is that we wern't going to ally, we wern't going to join your wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> kinda like what we did with drz...they liked the deal
[11:12] <Ecko_> they got to do their thing and get a defense agreement
[11:12] <Ecko_> be never joined their wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> never allied
[11:12] <Ecko_> WOW look at that, a way everyone benifited
[11:12] <Ecko_> and it wasnt a secret
[11:12] <PhantomZero> but it was never tested
[11:12] <Ecko_> everyone in the game knew about it
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes it was
[11:12] <Ecko_> many times
[11:13] <PhantomZero> how so
[11:14] <Ecko_> when drz was attacked, the northern republic was obligated to show up and defend if it was during NA time zones, and DRZ was obligated to show up during EU time zones to defend us. We never exchanged gear, never wared people together, or allied, or did anythng else
[11:14] <Ecko_> the republic was never atacked
[11:14] <Ecko_> DRZ was and we showed up
[11:14] <Ecko_> people thought we were allied, drz made it clear and so did i that we were not taking offensive manuevers together
[11:15] <Ecko_> THAT is something we could have done
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so you just show up whenever someone comes and attacks land already owned by DRZ?
[11:15] <Ecko_> no matter who
[11:15] <PhantomZero> thats joining a war
[11:15] <Ecko_> false
[11:15] <Ecko_> never took an offensive
[11:15] <Ecko_> never provided gear
[11:15] <PhantomZero> what do you mean false
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so what
[11:15] <Ecko_> thats something we could have done for you, and could have explained but you guys fuckin left man
[11:15] <PhantomZero> wars arent always aggressive wars
[11:15] <Ecko_> what if UIF comes to take you out
[11:16] <PhantomZero> because its dumb doublespeak
[11:16] <Ecko_> are you on the offensive or defensive?
[11:16] <Ecko_> hell what if the mercs magically had hundreds of players
[11:16] <PhantomZero> then they will have fun playing at 150 ping at awkward times
[11:16] <Ecko_> and moved towards you or anyone
[11:17] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
[11:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
[11:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles
[11:17] <Ecko_> you guys burnt the bridge, not us. We were there to talk, we didnt think that becoming allies was a good solution for anyone. You stated that you didnt want to become part of the alliance and wanted to remain individual, but would try hard to make it work.
[11:18] <Ecko_> As far as i'm concerned, we were coming with a solution that would make everyone mutually happy.
[11:18] <PhantomZero> we just felt blindsided by what occured
[11:19] <Ecko_> and i'm sorry, but who were the ones coming to me saying lets get the ball moving, lets make things official? when i constantly said i'm not doing anything with strategus right now...lets give people time to think it over
[11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:19] <Ecko_> False, gaga the night before came into my vent
[11:19] <Ecko_> said lets have a meeting tomorrow
[11:19] <PhantomZero> only because goretooth came to us about it
[11:20] <Ecko_> [11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> I am not goretooth
[11:20] <PhantomZero> okay fine
[11:20] <PhantomZero> ATS came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> and what did goretooth say?
[11:20] <Ecko_> gaga had come to me numerous times phantom
[11:20] <PhantomZero> that we should ally long enough to rush the merc territories in order to prevent the UIF from retaliating against either one of us
[11:21] <Ecko_> AGAIN, thats the plan gaga presented to us.
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its a good plan
[11:21] <PhantomZero> but if you guys wont support us in any wars
[11:21] <Ecko_> im not debating if it is or isnt
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its not going to work
[11:21] <PhantomZero> so
[11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:22] <PhantomZero> you werent the one insulted and lied to
[11:23] <Ecko_> your not stupid...you know what i'm saying is making sense...and you know damn well that the meeting didnt last long enough for anything really to be discussed...Even you were surprised when gaga left
[11:23] <Ecko_> name one lie. You were just surprised.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> there wasnt anything to discuss
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if you arent going to help us out, then there isn't any point in trading
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if we become reliant on ats trade and you suddenly decide that it is no longer in your best interested
[11:23] <Ecko_> Guess we live in a world of black and white....nothing else to talk about then. Your lunch is probably getting cold.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> we get fucked
[11:24] <PhantomZero> its a cold lunch anyways
[11:24] <PhantomZero> a defensive war is still a war
[11:25] <Ecko_> ATS is the 2nd smallest guild in the empire....all I do man is try and get things going. For you to put all of this on me is retarded. Especially when there were 5 other people who wanted to discuss things.
[11:25] <Ecko_> [11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:25] <PhantomZero> canary said you guys werent intersted
[11:26] <Ecko_> Wouldn't have been nice if you asked everyone yourself...oh wait you left before you could.
[11:26] <PhantomZero> all them hurf derfin run away train goons
[11:26] <PhantomZero> uncontrollable goon horde who knows what shenanigans they gonna get themselves into
[11:27] <PhantomZero> but were willing to maintain trade and defensive pacts
[11:27] <PhantomZero> y/n?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Bjord on June 19, 2011, 07:22:57 pm

With all these clan feuds, Strategus is bound to be a lot more interesting.  8-)

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 07:25:04 pm

Quote from: arab on June 19, 2011, 07:22:51 pm

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Session Start: Sun Jun 19 11:57:26 2011
Session Ident: Ecko_
[11:57] Session Ident: Ecko_ (QuakeNet, PhantomZero) ([email protected])
[11:57] <Ecko_> hey man i dunno what happened...but you do know that it was a vote, i wasn't the one who made the call
01[11:57] <PhantomZero> i was really confused too
01[11:58] <PhantomZero> you kind of made it look like it was only the hosperglers who would vote no and you could convince them to make it yes and unanimous.
01[11:58] <PhantomZero> plus the lack of communication leading up to the meeting kind of kept us in the dark
[11:58] <Ecko_> id like to come into ts and talk about it if you got the time
[11:58] <Ecko_> or if you want to
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> im actually making lunch right now
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> why did you have canary talk first anyways
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> i didnt even understand what he was trying to say other than "no we aren't going to help you guys"
[11:59] <Ecko_> you guys left before we even finished, just because we said we didnt want to ally didnt mean didnt want to do trading
01[11:59] <PhantomZero> fuck trading
[12:00] <Ecko_> merc battles we also something we were going to discuss
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> it was discussed
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> you said you werent going to help us in our wars
01[12:00] <PhantomZero> by mercing for us
[12:01] <Ecko_> we were going to go off each battle and decide if we could help or not
[12:01] <Ecko_> ask canary
[12:01] <Ecko_> ask anyone
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> what a dumb idea
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> thats not how it works
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> do you want LLJK to go off each battle
01[12:01] <PhantomZero> and decide if we could help or not?
01[12:02] <PhantomZero> we spent months trying to get LLJK members to even agree to join up for Northern Empire battles
01[12:02] <PhantomZero> and then we get pulled into vent and slapped in the face
[12:02] <Ecko_> you left before we could finish, i really didnt want it to be like that
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> what exactly did you want us to do
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> sit there and take it or something?
01[12:03] <PhantomZero> listening to some boring dummy using too many words to describe how we were going to get fucked
[12:03] <Ecko_> get fucked?
[12:04] <Ecko_> how was saying we arn't going to ally someone totally fucking you? we didnt declare war
[12:04] <Ecko_> we didnt go around parading saying lljk, fee game to the community
[12:04] <Ecko_> free*
[12:04] <Ecko_> we wanted to talk and figure out a way to work together, but let you do your think, something you clearly reminded everyone that would be something you wanted to do
01[12:04] <PhantomZero> well it sounded like you wanted all the benefits of having us in our clan
01[12:04] <PhantomZero> without actually helping us out at all
[12:05] <Ecko_> you got that in less than 1 minute?
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> canary said a lot of words
[12:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> exactly
01[12:05] <PhantomZero> what else is there to talk about?
[12:06] <Ecko_> trading, something your gonna need reguardless...merc agreements, defensive pacts
01[12:06] <PhantomZero> defensive pact
01[12:06] <PhantomZero> you are on the other side of the  world
[12:06] <Ecko_> you asked, those are things to talk about
[12:07] <Ecko_> we had all the leaders together, for the first time
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> yes, all of those things would benefit the northern empire
[12:07] <Ecko_> to talk about solutions
[12:07] <Ecko_> false
[12:07] <Ecko_> you guys just bailed
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> you wouldnt support us in any wars
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> whats the point of a defensive pact
01[12:07] <PhantomZero> or merc agreements
[12:07] <Ecko_> [11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[12:08] <Ecko_> there are ways of helping without declaring official alliance or joining a war against someone
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> we dont care about an official alliance
[12:08] <Ecko_> apparently you do
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> but not helping us and by reviewing battles on a case by case basis
01[12:08] <PhantomZero> is something we cannot support
[12:09] <Ecko_> then thats your problem....go luck finding someone else in game who does it differently
[12:09] <Ecko_> good*
01[12:09] <PhantomZero> if you are going to review your agreements in trade/mercing/defensive pact on a case by case basis, we can't trust you
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> of course nobody does it differently
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> but nobody says that to your face
[12:10] <Ecko_> there were 6 people who represented everyone else, there to talk about solutions, ways to help you and figure out a way so everyone could benifit the way they wanted
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> ways to help us
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> by not mercing
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> not supporting us in wars
01[12:10] <PhantomZero> and only through trade?
[12:11] <Ecko_> i dunno...talks didnt get that far did they?
[12:11] <Ecko_> the only thing that was said and is official is that we wern't going to ally, we wern't going to join your wars
[12:11] <Ecko_> kinda like what we did with drz...they liked the deal
[12:11] <Ecko_> they got to do their thing and get a defense agreement
[12:11] <Ecko_> be never joined their wars
[12:12] <Ecko_> never allied
[12:12] <Ecko_> WOW look at that, a way everyone benifited
01[12:12] <PhantomZero> but it was never tested
[12:12] <Ecko_> and it wasnt a secret
[12:12] <Ecko_> everyone in the game knew about it
[12:12] <Ecko_> yes
[12:12] <Ecko_> yes it was
[12:12] <Ecko_> many times
01[12:12] <PhantomZero> how so
[12:13] <Ecko_> when drz was attacked, the northern republic was obligated to show up and defend if it was during NA time zones, and DRZ was obligated to show up during EU time zones to defend us. We never exchanged gear, never wared people together, or allied, or did anythng else
[12:13] <Ecko_> the republic was never atacked
[12:13] <Ecko_> DRZ was and we showed up
[12:14] <Ecko_> people thought we were allied, drz made it clear and so did i that we were not taking offensive manuevers together
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> so you just show up whenever someone comes and attacks land already owned by DRZ?
[12:14] <Ecko_> no matter who
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> thats joining a war
[12:14] <Ecko_> THAT is something we could have done
[12:14] <Ecko_> false
[12:14] <Ecko_> never took an offensive
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> what do you mean false
[12:14] <Ecko_> never provided gear
01[12:14] <PhantomZero> so what
01[12:15] <PhantomZero> wars arent always aggressive wars
[12:15] <Ecko_> thats something we could have done for you, and could have explained but you guys fuckin left man
01[12:15] <PhantomZero> because its dumb doublespeak
[12:15] <Ecko_> are you on the offensive or defensive?
[12:15] <Ecko_> what if UIF comes to take you out
[12:16] <Ecko_> hell what if the mercs magically had hundreds of players
01[12:16] <PhantomZero> then they will have fun playing at 150 ping at awkward times
[12:16] <Ecko_> and moved towards you or anyone
01[12:16] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles
[12:17] <Ecko_> you guys burnt the bridge, not us. We were there to talk, we didnt think that becoming allies was a good solution for anyone. You stated that you didnt want to become part of the alliance and wanted to remain individual, but would try hard to make it work.
[12:17] <Ecko_> As far as i'm concerned, we were coming with a solution that would make everyone mutually happy.
01[12:18] <PhantomZero> we just felt blindsided by what occured
[12:18] <Ecko_> and i'm sorry, but who were the ones coming to me saying lets get the ball moving, lets make things official? when i constantly said i'm not doing anything with strategus right now...lets give people time to think it over
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[12:19] <Ecko_> False, gaga the night before came into my vent
[12:19] <Ecko_> said lets have a meeting tomorrow
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> only because goretooth came to us about it
[12:19] <Ecko_> [11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> okay fine
[12:19] <Ecko_> I am not goretooth
01[12:19] <PhantomZero> ATS came to us to start it
[12:20] <Ecko_> and what did goretooth say?
01[12:20] <PhantomZero> that we should ally long enough to rush the merc territories in order to prevent the UIF from retaliating against either one of us
[12:20] <Ecko_> gaga had come to me numerous times phantom
[12:21] <Ecko_> AGAIN, thats the plan gaga presented to us.
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> its a good plan
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> but if you guys wont support us in any wars
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> its not going to work
[12:21] <Ecko_> im not debating if it is or isnt
01[12:21] <PhantomZero> so
[12:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
01[12:22] <PhantomZero> you werent the one insulted and lied to
[12:22] <Ecko_> your not stupid...you know what i'm saying is making sense...and you know damn well that the meeting didnt last long enough for anything really to be discussed...Even you were surprised when gaga left
[12:22] <Ecko_> name one lie. You were just surprised.
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> there wasnt anything to discuss
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> if you arent going to help us out, then there isn't any point in trading
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> if we become reliant on ats trade and you suddenly decide that it is no longer in your best interested
[12:23] <Ecko_> Guess we live in a world of black and white....nothing else to talk about then. Your lunch is probably getting cold.
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> we get fucked
01[12:23] <PhantomZero> its a cold lunch anyways
01[12:24] <PhantomZero> a defensive war is still a war
[12:24] <Ecko_> ATS is the 2nd smallest guild in the empire....all I do man is try and get things going. For you to put all of this on me is retarded. Especially when there were 5 other people who wanted to discuss things.
[12:25] <Ecko_> [11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
01[12:25] <PhantomZero> canary said you guys werent intersted
[12:25] <Ecko_> Wouldn't have been nice if you asked everyone yourself...oh wait you left before you could.
01[12:25] <PhantomZero> all them hurf derfin run away train goons
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> uncontrollable goon horde who knows what shenanigans they gonna get themselves into
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> you made it sound like you guys already had your vote
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> and it was a done deal
01[12:26] <PhantomZero> you werent going to be able to help us
01[12:27] <PhantomZero> but were willing to maintain trade and defensive pacts
01[12:27] <PhantomZero> y/n?
01[12:37] <PhantomZero> well whatever, defensive pacts and trade aren't in our best interests, a little forewarning would have been nice or a little more notice maybe. I thought we were just being called in there to hear the verdict regarding the thing we spent months trying to set up. It was no, so we left.
01[12:46] <PhantomZero> we'll talk later when im not hungry
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> haha
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> classy
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> well I guess that ends that
01[12:50] <PhantomZero> in the words of lady gaga

you cut out ten lines of the actual conversation

and your chat log in case you edit the OP:

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[10:57] <Ecko_> hey man i dunno what happened...but you do know that it was a vote, i wasn't the one who made the call
[10:58] <PhantomZero> i was really confused too
[10:58] <PhantomZero> you kind of made it look like it was only the hosperglers who would vote no and you could convince them to make it yes and unanimous.
[10:58] <PhantomZero> plus the lack of communication leading up to the meeting kind of kept us in the dark
[10:59] <Ecko_> id like to come into ts and talk about it if you got the time
[10:59] <Ecko_> or if you want to
[10:59] <PhantomZero> im actually making lunch right now
[10:59] <PhantomZero> why did you have canary talk first anyways
[11:00] <PhantomZero> i didnt even understand what he was trying to say other than "no we aren't going to help you guys"
[11:00] <Ecko_> you guys left before we even finished, just because we said we didnt want to ally didnt mean didnt want to do trading
[11:00] <PhantomZero> fuck trading
[11:00] <Ecko_> merc battles we also something we were going to discuss
[11:00] <PhantomZero> it was discussed
[11:00] <PhantomZero> you said you werent going to help us in our wars
[11:01] <PhantomZero> by mercing for us
[11:01] <Ecko_> we were going to go off each battle and decide if we could help or not
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask canary
[11:01] <Ecko_> ask anyone
[11:01] <PhantomZero> what a dumb idea
[11:01] <PhantomZero> thats not how it works
[11:02] <PhantomZero> do you want LLJK to go off each battle
[11:02] <PhantomZero> and decide if we could help or not?
[11:02] <PhantomZero> we spent months trying to get LLJK members to even agree to join up for Northern Empire battles
[11:03] <PhantomZero> and then we get pulled into vent and slapped in the face
[11:03] <Ecko_> you left before we could finish, i really didnt want it to be like that
[11:03] <PhantomZero> what exactly did you want us to do
[11:03] <PhantomZero> sit there and take it or something?
[11:04] <PhantomZero> listening to some boring dummy using too many words to describe how we were going to get fucked
[11:04] <Ecko_> get fucked?
[11:04] <Ecko_> how was saying we arn't going to ally someone totally fucking you? we didnt declare war
[11:04] <Ecko_> we didnt go around parading saying lljk, fee game to the community
[11:04] <Ecko_> free*
[11:05] <Ecko_> we wanted to talk and figure out a way to work together, but let you do your think, something you clearly reminded everyone that would be something you wanted to do
[11:05] <PhantomZero> well it sounded like you wanted all the benefits of having us in our clan
[11:05] <PhantomZero> without actually helping us out at all
[11:05] <Ecko_> you got that in less than 1 minute?
[11:05] <PhantomZero> canary said a lot of words
[11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:06] <PhantomZero> exactly
[11:06] <PhantomZero> what else is there to talk about?
[11:06] <Ecko_> trading, something your gonna need reguardless...merc agreements, defensive pacts
[11:06] <PhantomZero> defensive pact
[11:06] <PhantomZero> you are on the other side of the  world
[11:07] <Ecko_> you asked, those are things to talk about
[11:07] <Ecko_> we had all the leaders together, for the first time
[11:07] <PhantomZero> yes, all of those things would benefit the northern empire
[11:07] <Ecko_> to talk about solutions
[11:07] <Ecko_> you guys just bailed
[11:07] <Ecko_> false
[11:07] <PhantomZero> you wouldnt support us in any wars
[11:07] <PhantomZero> whats the point of a defensive pact
[11:08] <PhantomZero> or merc agreements
[11:08] <Ecko_> [11:05] <Ecko_> by hearing the words, we arn't going to ally, we arn't going to join your wars you shut down from there and left
[11:08] <Ecko_> there are ways of helping without declaring official alliance or joining a war against someone
[11:08] <PhantomZero> we dont care about an official alliance
[11:09] <Ecko_> apparently you do
[11:09] <PhantomZero> but not helping us and by reviewing battles on a case by case basis
[11:09] <PhantomZero> is something we cannot support
[11:09] <Ecko_> then thats your problem....go luck finding someone else in game who does it differently
[11:09] <Ecko_> good*
[11:10] <PhantomZero> if you are going to review your agreements in trade/mercing/defensive pact on a case by case basis, we can't trust you
[11:10] <PhantomZero> of course nobody does it differently
[11:10] <Ecko_> there were 6 people who represented everyone else, there to talk about solutions, ways to help you and figure out a way so everyone could benifit the way they wanted
[11:10] <PhantomZero> but nobody says that to your face
[11:11] <PhantomZero> ways to help us
[11:11] <PhantomZero> by not mercing
[11:11] <PhantomZero> not supporting us in wars
[11:11] <PhantomZero> and only through trade?
[11:11] <Ecko_> i dunno...talks didnt get that far did they?
[11:11] <Ecko_> the only thing that was said and is official is that we wern't going to ally, we wern't going to join your wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> kinda like what we did with drz...they liked the deal
[11:12] <Ecko_> they got to do their thing and get a defense agreement
[11:12] <Ecko_> be never joined their wars
[11:12] <Ecko_> never allied
[11:12] <Ecko_> WOW look at that, a way everyone benifited
[11:12] <Ecko_> and it wasnt a secret
[11:12] <PhantomZero> but it was never tested
[11:12] <Ecko_> everyone in the game knew about it
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes
[11:12] <Ecko_> yes it was
[11:12] <Ecko_> many times
[11:13] <PhantomZero> how so
[11:14] <Ecko_> when drz was attacked, the northern republic was obligated to show up and defend if it was during NA time zones, and DRZ was obligated to show up during EU time zones to defend us. We never exchanged gear, never wared people together, or allied, or did anythng else
[11:14] <Ecko_> the republic was never atacked
[11:14] <Ecko_> DRZ was and we showed up
[11:14] <Ecko_> people thought we were allied, drz made it clear and so did i that we were not taking offensive manuevers together
[11:15] <Ecko_> THAT is something we could have done
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so you just show up whenever someone comes and attacks land already owned by DRZ?
[11:15] <Ecko_> no matter who
[11:15] <PhantomZero> thats joining a war
[11:15] <Ecko_> false
[11:15] <Ecko_> never took an offensive
[11:15] <Ecko_> never provided gear
[11:15] <PhantomZero> what do you mean false
[11:15] <PhantomZero> so what
[11:15] <Ecko_> thats something we could have done for you, and could have explained but you guys fuckin left man
[11:15] <PhantomZero> wars arent always aggressive wars
[11:15] <Ecko_> what if UIF comes to take you out
[11:16] <PhantomZero> because its dumb doublespeak
[11:16] <Ecko_> are you on the offensive or defensive?
[11:16] <Ecko_> hell what if the mercs magically had hundreds of players
[11:16] <PhantomZero> then they will have fun playing at 150 ping at awkward times
[11:16] <Ecko_> and moved towards you or anyone
[11:17] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
[11:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
[11:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles
[11:17] <Ecko_> you guys burnt the bridge, not us. We were there to talk, we didnt think that becoming allies was a good solution for anyone. You stated that you didnt want to become part of the alliance and wanted to remain individual, but would try hard to make it work.
[11:18] <Ecko_> As far as i'm concerned, we were coming with a solution that would make everyone mutually happy.
[11:18] <PhantomZero> we just felt blindsided by what occured
[11:19] <Ecko_> and i'm sorry, but who were the ones coming to me saying lets get the ball moving, lets make things official? when i constantly said i'm not doing anything with strategus right now...lets give people time to think it over
[11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:19] <Ecko_> False, gaga the night before came into my vent
[11:19] <Ecko_> said lets have a meeting tomorrow
[11:19] <PhantomZero> only because goretooth came to us about it
[11:20] <Ecko_> [11:19] <PhantomZero> you came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> I am not goretooth
[11:20] <PhantomZero> okay fine
[11:20] <PhantomZero> ATS came to us to start it
[11:20] <Ecko_> and what did goretooth say?
[11:20] <Ecko_> gaga had come to me numerous times phantom
[11:20] <PhantomZero> that we should ally long enough to rush the merc territories in order to prevent the UIF from retaliating against either one of us
[11:21] <Ecko_> AGAIN, thats the plan gaga presented to us.
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its a good plan
[11:21] <PhantomZero> but if you guys wont support us in any wars
[11:21] <Ecko_> im not debating if it is or isnt
[11:21] <PhantomZero> its not going to work
[11:21] <PhantomZero> so
[11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:22] <PhantomZero> you werent the one insulted and lied to
[11:23] <Ecko_> your not stupid...you know what i'm saying is making sense...and you know damn well that the meeting didnt last long enough for anything really to be discussed...Even you were surprised when gaga left
[11:23] <Ecko_> name one lie. You were just surprised.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> there wasnt anything to discuss
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if you arent going to help us out, then there isn't any point in trading
[11:23] <PhantomZero> if we become reliant on ats trade and you suddenly decide that it is no longer in your best interested
[11:23] <Ecko_> Guess we live in a world of black and white....nothing else to talk about then. Your lunch is probably getting cold.
[11:23] <PhantomZero> we get fucked
[11:24] <PhantomZero> its a cold lunch anyways
[11:24] <PhantomZero> a defensive war is still a war
[11:25] <Ecko_> ATS is the 2nd smallest guild in the empire....all I do man is try and get things going. For you to put all of this on me is retarded. Especially when there were 5 other people who wanted to discuss things.
[11:25] <Ecko_> [11:22] <Ecko_> phantom man....you know damn well that your being stubborn here...it was a misunderstanding yesterday and your hooking onto weak reasons to be angry
[11:25] <PhantomZero> canary said you guys werent intersted
[11:26] <Ecko_> Wouldn't have been nice if you asked everyone yourself...oh wait you left before you could.
[11:26] <PhantomZero> all them hurf derfin run away train goons
[11:26] <PhantomZero> uncontrollable goon horde who knows what shenanigans they gonna get themselves into
[11:27] <PhantomZero> but were willing to maintain trade and defensive pacts
[11:27] <PhantomZero> y/n?

All i see is 6, and those bottom ones did come after i posted this...sorry.

Look at the times.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Peasant_Woman on June 19, 2011, 07:27:18 pm

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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gildiss on June 19, 2011, 07:27:33 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:20:01 pm

Look at you all viewing the topic.  If only ya'll could organize like this when it mattered, like in-game (and buy some skill).

Damnit Goons! We keep losing on the battle and siege servers! That multiplier is going into a file and the lands shall be divided up amongst those with the highest multiplier digits!

Defend our Goonish Honoure~!

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Damug on June 19, 2011, 07:29:35 pm

Quote from: Gildiss on June 19, 2011, 07:27:33 pm

Damnit Goons! We keep losing on the battle and siege servers! That multiplier is going into a file and the lands shall be divided up amongst those with the highest multiplier digits!

Defend our Goonish Honoure~!

Fuck multipliers, we've got to defend the lowest common denominator!

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:34:45 pm

As if any Goon has had skill in gaming since Eve.  (Even then it was an MMO spreadsheet online where macros and number crunching accounted for 90% of combat, zerging the other 10% to make up for lack of skill in the first 90%)   :mrgreen:  Damn newmy old friends soiling the Goon name.  It is cute to watch ya'll try though and then convince yourselves you're not trying to protect egos.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: okiN on June 19, 2011, 07:36:02 pm

Quote from: arab on June 19, 2011, 07:22:51 pm

you cut out ten lines of the actual conversation

Well, he may have lied about not editing the convo, but he doesn't seem to contradict himself on attacking Mercs being LLJK's idea originally. Also...

Quote from: arab on June 19, 2011, 07:22:51 pm

01[12:16] <PhantomZero> all of our wars have been defensive
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> shogunate attacked us, nordmen attacked us, brd attacked us
01[12:17] <PhantomZero> we've only attacked neutral villages and reclaiming battles

This really doesn't match my memory of the Nordmen conflict at all. Didn't you guys backstab them when they were taking a neutral castle and get beaten up for your trouble?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 07:40:20 pm

Yea my mistake...apparently its a never ending conversation so i guess i'll keep missing the last few lines  :P

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 07:40:48 pm

Oh LLJK, you naughty, naughty knights you! I still don't know what this proves though. I mean ATS and LLJK already were in a "cold war" so does this really change things? I mean I suppose you could ally with chocolate chip cookie germany and bring about some issues, but isn't strategus going to get wiped anyway? albert einstein is going to lose a lot of land and power with that.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 07:41:21 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:34:45 pm

It is cute to watch ya'll try though and then convince yourselves you're not trying to protect egos.

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:34:45 pm

convince yourselves you're not trying to protect egos.

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:34:45 pm

egos.

Coming from you.. 'heh'  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 07:41:50 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 07:40:20 pm

Yea my mistake...apparently its a never ending conversation so i guess i'll keep missing the last few lines  :P

lol, that's how 1-sided conversations work.  You say "Ok, I guess we're done then" and walk away, the one with the vagina (lljk) continues ranting after you've left as if it matters.

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[12:08] <PhantomZero> hahaha
[12:08] <PhantomZero> i used to think you were a pretty respectable guy
[12:09] <PhantomZero> guess not anymore

ABLOO BLOO, A BUU BUU BUU
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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gildiss on June 19, 2011, 07:52:13 pm

Gorath's fedora is a little tight and cutting off circulation to his brain.

He is clearly delusional. He thought Eve Goons had skill. Holy hell man.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:00:58 pm

Eve:  Goons made a difference in the game
2nd life:  Falling penises!
WoW:  Not so much
AoC:  Even less
WAR:  LOL!
DarkFail:  A small shining moment of almost cool-ness, then Gluttony went awol and back to mediocrity
cRPG:  some trolling and free kills for everyone

Out of all of your mediocrity, Eve was the last and really only shining moment of Goony glory.

Quote from: Secret Agent Cow

Double Edit: Gorath be my battle buddy you big hunky trucker. Let's go LARPing together. I'll be your noble squire. Teach me the ways of honor in battle. I expect lot's from you

You got it homie, but I hope you're down with a little ass to mouth cause I'm hankerin' to give you the chocolate cucumber.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 08:02:54 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:00:58 pm

You got it homie, but I hope you're down with a little ass to mouth cause I'm hankerin' to give you the chocolate cucumber.

Oh Gorath, tell me more. I love it when you talk dirty. Mreowwww

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gildiss on June 19, 2011, 08:04:53 pm

Shit Gorath has somehow accessed our super secret forum HQ. Quickly Goons, DDoS Gorath! Bring him dowj!

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rannepear on June 19, 2011, 08:14:50 pm

Karma...?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: kukufarikki on June 19, 2011, 08:20:35 pm

please everybody can we please get along and stop the hate

let's all just hold hands and remember what our forefathers fought for, peace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM)

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:21:25 pm

Quote from: kukufarikki on June 19, 2011, 08:20:35 pm

please everybody can we please get along and stop the hate

let's all just hold hands and remember what our forefathers fought for, peace
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM)

A WILD HIPPY APPEARS!  WUT DO?!

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

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[12:51] <PhantomZero> you can say whatever about your personal obligations to ecko, but he is a snake and would throw chaos under the bus the first time it became in his best interests. 

:mrgreen:

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

You see guys, Ecko is pretty two faced. I spent a month and a half working with him and Goretooth. Both of them came up with grand schemes, which all required LLJK to succeed. The original and greatest plan was get LLJK into the NE, attack Nordmen of Fenada so Chaos can have territory, then attack the Mercs to get more shit for Chaos and Occitant and a City for Eastern Tsardom. Once all that was done, Goretooth stated we would see whom to hit next, which i assume meant Fallen or UIF. Goretooth, is by far the craziest snake i seen in this game. This is the same guy that nearly followed through with a coup on ATS. At one time he had the largest army, and was marching to their capital city with it. Goretooth had all the money, all the troops, and Ecko must have done something like suck his dick to get him to stop.

Ecko has also stated million times to me whenever I asked him about strategus, that he has plans for everyone. He has plans on attacking UIF, Fallen, DRZ, Mercs, and fucking DL in the middle of no where. How he plans on doing this is through trade routes. He will setup a trade agreement, use the caravans to slowly build up an army inside a city then attack from with in. I would suggest not trading with him or any Northern Empire clan.

Ecko has said ATS will be a pay to play clan as well. He is forcing all ATS members not to play on any servers not paid by him. He is also requiring all ATS members to donate to his servers.

Ecko has, when I have notified him, of his own clan makes breaking rules like leeching during sieges, delaying, and QML spamming. He turns a blind eye, not because he cares about the rules, but he needs ATS members so his servers run.

When me and phantom showed up to the meeting, it had 7 or 6 people in there with Canary of Chaos bumbling around with big words, trying to say "sorry, but we don't want LLJK in Northern Empire." All phantom and I heard was, "my old friends my old friends my old friends" so we left. There was no crying on our part, we just left. It was Canary and Manofwar that came into our teamspeak, we didn't invite them, to apologize and try to repair relations. Still, all I heard was "my old friend my old friend my old friend", I called him out on their shit, how such a clan that originally against NE and ecko is now their lap dog. 

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Olwen on June 19, 2011, 08:31:05 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

The original and greatest plan was get LLJK into the NE, attack Nordmen of Fenada so Chaos can have territory, then attack the Mercs to get more shit for Chaos and Occitant and a City for Eastern Tsardom.

if someone attacks Reyvadin he'll have problems with me, may it be known

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Killerz on June 19, 2011, 08:32:21 pm

Quote from: Rikthor on June 19, 2011, 07:14:33 pm

Sorry bronamoth that is a complete Northern Empire deal. Since we are not a part of it, I don't think so.

Ecko, shouldn't you be crying to mods about how Goons made for of your terrible website or how Goons voted you off the island in Darkfall? Also, really, editing out parts of the irc convo? Come on now.

e: Gorath - BLOO BLOO BLOO

The Forest Republic shall never die! Oh and Turtles... that is all.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Noctivagant on June 19, 2011, 08:36:59 pm

You made a big mistake by talking that in public. Your arrogance will be your undoing, you could chose a diplomatic way to get land from us, at least you wouldn't be humiliated.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Emotion on June 19, 2011, 08:39:06 pm

This is irrelevant i know, but I just had to comment.

LMFAO lady gaga u little whore you. Stop running your mouth u troll. you're annoying as shit. You came into ATS vent 6 days ago and tried recruiting ME, Noobie, and Damatacus. saying that if we joined it would only cost $10 paypal, and your name on a submission sheet, to get one months access. I've never seen a bigger troll in my life and that's why 3/4 of CRPG players cannot stand you. I don't care about this thread just wish you would disappear.

BTW, Ecko doesn't force us to do anything, we play where we want and what we want, in fact his main motto is, " once ATS, always ATS," stating that we can come and go as we please we never need to "re-join" unless we quit. And we do NOT have to donate unless we choose to.

Lady fuck face, it seems you're a little upset that ATS is better managed and well-ran, with better players, that trust our leader, and enjoy playing under ONE banner, while your cave troll so called "clan" seeks single opportunistic achievements that benefit solely the one individual that succeeds. Good luck in strategus you spear chucker.

BTW i laughed throughout typing this... at you.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:40:12 pm

^^^^^
Oh about that, I was fucking with you bro. LLJK is a pay to play clan, and Ecko came to me and phantomzero about it. Why not ask people that run a legit pay to play clan on how turning your clan into PtP.


This supposed war with LLJK + NE vs Mercs, would gain nothing for LLJK. Ecko demanded that all the land would go to Northern Empire. LLJK doesn't want more territory, we are content with what we have. We got more shit then NE and that is fine with us.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: PhantomZero on June 19, 2011, 08:41:21 pm

Quote from: Noctivagant on June 19, 2011, 08:36:59 pm

You made a big mistake by talking that in public. Your arrogance will be your undoing, you could chose a diplomatic way to get land from us, at least you wouldn't be humiliated.

Ecko drew me into a conversation with every intention of posting on the forums. None of what he said made any sense about our past dealings, it was his plan to bumrush the Mercs, the only way it would work is if LLJK did it too, since Fallen probably would have struck at the low hanging fruit with all of the NE armies not defending their territory. But we didn't want any territories outside of the dessert desert. Which the Nordmen don't want to trade for anything except for for land in a different area.

Does this really come as a shock to anyone? ATS, Gorath and LLJK have always had poor relations.  I expect more LLJK bannings on ATS and Northern Empire cRPG servers in the future.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rikthor on June 19, 2011, 08:43:03 pm

Quote from: Emotion on June 19, 2011, 08:39:06 pm

I AM FURIOUSLY TYPING AT MY KEYBOARD

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

You see guys, Ecko is pretty two faced. I spent a month and a half working with him and Goretooth. Both of them came up with grand schemes, which all required LLJK to succeed. The original and greatest plan was get LLJK into the NE, attack Nordmen of Fenada so Chaos can have territory, then attack the Mercs to get more shit for Chaos and Occitant and a City for Eastern Tsardom.

Uh...pretty sure Nordmen have been my neighbors for a long time and have done nothing to me. I'm pretty sure you wanted to take them out with empire help and have chaos go down their and work the territory for you.

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

Ecko has also stated million times to me whenever I asked him about strategus, that he has plans for everyone. He has plans on attacking UIF, Fallen, DRZ, Mercs, and fucking DL in the middle of no where. How he plans on doing this is through trade routes. He will setup a trade agreement, use the caravans to slowly build up an army inside a city then attack from with in. I would suggest not trading with him or any Northern Empire clan.

How the hell would making trade agreements be an act of war? If i made trade routes with anyone, they wouldn't be my enemies because THEY TOO WOULD GET SUPPLIES. If i had an enemy i would not trade with them, it would be counter productive.  :shock: Yes, i admit i have plans for almost every single guild in strategus. I'm pretty sure every guild leader has done the hypothetical "What if."

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

Ecko has said ATS will be a pay to play clan as well. He is forcing all ATS members not to play on any servers not paid by him. He is also requiring all ATS members to donate to his servers.

ATS has been around since 1997, not once were we a pay to join guild. Nor will we ever be. Since warband started, ATS has decided, not me, that they wanted to run servers and we pool money together to do so. So does hospitaller, shogunate, and others i'm sure. LLJK is the only clan i know that is pay to join.

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

Ecko has, when I have notified him, of his own clan makes breaking rules like leeching during sieges, delaying, and QML spamming. He turns a blind eye, not because he cares about the rules, but he needs ATS members so his servers run.

+1 you might have something there....nope sorry was another goon tear.

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

When me and phantom showed up to the meeting, it had 7 or 6 people in there with Canary of Chaos bumbling around with big words, trying to say "sorry, but we don't want LLJK in Northern Empire." All phantom and I heard was, "my old friends my old friends my old friends" so we left. There was no crying on our part, we just left. It was Canary and Manofwar that came into our teamspeak, we didn't invite them, to apologize and try to repair relations. Still, all I heard was "my old friend my old friend my old friend", I called him out on their shit, how such a clan that originally against NE and ecko is now their lap dog.

They say everytime a goon cries, an angel gets its wings. Could be another Lady Gaga song eh?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:50:39 pm

Your post almost sounded guenuine and believable UNTIL

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:22:56 pm

Ecko has said ATS will be a pay to play clan as well. He is forcing all ATS members not to play on any servers not paid by him. He is also requiring all ATS members to donate to his servers.

ROFL!
Even were this believable everyone knows that 90% of ATS are broke fucks (nojoke) so this would be like disbanding the clan's playerbase.   :lol:

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: downer on June 19, 2011, 08:51:17 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

words

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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 08:52:11 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

+1 you might have something there....nope sorry was another goon tear.

They say everytime a goon cries, an angel gets its wings. Could be another Lady Gaga song eh?

Really? I remember in Dark Fall ATS's guild 'Hyperion' got really teary eyed after being absolutely skullcrushed in that game, i guess you forget to mention tears also come from ATS eh?

Selective memories sure are handy!

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gingerpussy on June 19, 2011, 08:53:15 pm

Quote from: Noctivagant on June 19, 2011, 08:36:59 pm

You made a big mistake by talking that in public. Your arrogance will be your undoing, you could chose a diplomatic way to get land from us, at least you wouldn't be humiliated.

+1 wil be fun for Mercs.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:53:42 pm

Quote from: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 08:52:11 pm

Really? I remember in Dark Fall ATS's guild 'Hyperion' got really teary eyed after being absolutely skullcrushed in that game, i guess you forget to mention tears also come from ATS eh?

Selective memories sure are handy!

ATS worked with coalition of the chillin....i believe goons were apart of that against hyperion.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:54:13 pm

Quote from: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 08:52:11 pm

ATS's guild 'Hyperion'

I think all the paste eating has really done permanent damage.  Hyperzerg was it's own COLLECTION of clans (not a single one) and ATS wasn't a part of Hyperzerg iirc.  I was part of the goon counter zerg with Rhade/Vanidar/early black shielders (CotC) and remember fighting Hyperzerg well.  ATS was eventually a part of CotC as well I believe.  You should get your facts straight.  lol

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rannepear on June 19, 2011, 08:54:54 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 08:50:39 pm

Your post almost sounded guenuine and believable UNTIL
ROFL!
Even were this believable everyone knows that 90% of ATS are broke fucks (nojoke) so this would be like disbanding the clan's playerbase.   :lol:

I know. I live under a bridge. I sold my soul for this laptop and I steal my wifi from starbucks. Thank God for that Steam sale.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:55:21 pm

Shall i provide a shovel...or are they digging their own graves with their mouths good enough?


So far i'm waiting for one lljk member to say something that isn't false. The only person who has gotten close was lady gaga.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:56:28 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

Uh...pretty sure Nordmen have been my neighbors for a long time and have done nothing to me. I'm pretty sure you wanted to take them out with empire help and have chaos go down their and work the territory for you.

How the hell would making trade agreements be an act of war? If i made trade routes with anyone, they wouldn't be my enemies because THEY TOO WOULD GET SUPPLIES. If i had an enemy i would not trade with them, it would be counter productive.  :shock: Yes, i admit i have plans for almost every single guild in strategus. I'm pretty sure every guild leader has done the hypothetical "What if."

ATS has been around since 1997, not once were we a pay to join guild. Nor will we ever be. Since warband started, ATS has decided, not me, that they wanted to run servers and we pool money together to do so. So does hospitaller, shogunate, and others i'm sure. LLJK is the only clan i know that is pay to join.

+1 you might have something there....nope sorry was another goon tear.

They say everytime a goon cries, an angel gets its wings. Could be another Lady Gaga song eh?

You are pretty good at spinning webs of lies and feigning ignorance. I must commend you, but you do not need to resort to ad hominem when quoting me. I at least give you respect, although I decry your bombastic posts.

EDIT: for all you reading ecko's posts, read what he fails to addresses.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rikthor on June 19, 2011, 08:58:12 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:47:58 pm

+1 you might have something there....nope sorry was another goon tear.

You got called out by Eyebeat for allowing Goretooth to rage ban and only selectively enforce rules. What was your response? you literally came on to our TS and raged about how you wanted to ban Eyebeat for calling you out. How's that jealousy of chadz thing working out for you as well?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:58:57 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 08:56:28 pm

You are pretty good at spinning webs of lies and feigning ignorance. I must commend you, but you do not need to resort to ad hominem when quoting me. I at least give you respect, although I decry your bombastic posts.

Helps when you just say the truth. I admit you did not cry, you left my vent and raged on your teamspeak. I just used "cried" instead of temper tantrum. Its not your fault you were born that way.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Uumdi on June 19, 2011, 09:04:36 pm

Goon Squad should go back to Maplestory

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:05:26 pm

Quote from: Uumdi on June 19, 2011, 09:04:36 pm

Goon Squad should go back to Maplestory

lol
They're not even real Goonsquad anyways.  Just the newmy old friends of SA pretending to be.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:09:02 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:05:26 pm

lol
They're not even real Goonsquad anyways.  Just the newmy old friends of SA pretending to be.

Welp, he caught us let's call it a day folks. Gorath has and always will be a SA insider all-knowing of the inner workings of Something Awful. Yup.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:12:36 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:58:57 pm

Helps when you just say the truth. I admit you did not cry, you left my vent and raged on your teamspeak. I just used "cried" instead of temper tantrum. Its not your fault you were born that way.

Raged? More like breathed a sigh of relief. The entire production I did for Canary wasn't real, and apparently I should move to Hollywood if he actually believed me. If I was truely mad, I wouldn't have done my drunk harry plinket voice, the entire time.  However, i know you guys were actually up set why else would you fabricate this thread? Why not live and let live? Why not go back to being civil and not caring about strategus, since everyone knows that ATS and NE will sit in their little "empire" liked they did last strategus. No, you took the option of riling up LLJK and trying to save face, when you actually never lost it.

Instead you outed yourself as scheming and being butthurt.

Gorath, you are terrible bro. Newmy old friend is a 4chan meme, goddamn you are dumb. Get arrested again for carrying a dangerous knife, you criminal.


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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 09:14:41 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 08:58:57 pm

Helps when you just say the truth. I admit you did not cry, you left my vent and raged on your teamspeak. I just used "cried" instead of temper tantrum. Its not your fault you were born that way.

Oh, you are never ever wrong except when you are right. I see, politics as usual.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:15:08 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:12:36 pm

The entire production I did for Canary wasn't real, and apparently I should move to Hollywood if he actually believed me. If I was truely mad, I wouldn't have done my drunk harry plinket voice, the entire time.  However, i know you guys were actually up set why else would you fabricate this thread? Why not live and let live?

Sorry we're twofaced? We honestly, in your own words even, came over to repair and work with you guys. You put on an act of being angry. Yea i'm the bad guy. Least i'm honest.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:16:21 pm

Quote from: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:09:02 pm

Welp, he caught us let's call it a day folks. Gorath has and always will be a SA insider all-knowing of the inner workings of Something Awful. Yup.

Indeed.  Lowtax and I have drinks every now and then and laugh at all the kiddie fucktards on SA thinking they're cool for riding the coattails of the OG's.

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:12:36 pm

Gorath, you are terrible bro. Newmy old friend is a 4chan meme, goddamn you are dumb. Get arrested again for carrying a dangerous knife, you criminal.

You yourself know that all of lljk are 4chan rejects pretending to be goons.  You commented many times about how they disgust you, Gaga.  It's ok, you can let it out.  I know how frustrating it must be to have to chill with these fuckwits instead of proper Goons with class and style.  There there, it's ok.

Still lol'ing at this whole criminal thing.  Even if it were true, being an ex-con gives far more awesome points IRL than just being an e-thug wishing he was.  Feel free to keep spreading that story.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rannepear on June 19, 2011, 09:18:04 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:12:36 pm

Raged? More like breathed a sigh of relief. The entire production I did for Canary wasn't real, and apparently I should move to Hollywood if he actually believed me. If I was truely mad, I wouldn't have done my drunk harry plinket voice, the entire time.  However, i know you guys were actually up set why else would you fabricate this thread? Why not live and let live? Why not go back to being civil and not caring about strategus, since everyone knows that ATS and NE will sit in their little "empire" liked they did last strategus. No, you took the option of riling up LLJK and trying to save face, when you actually never lost it.

Instead you outed yourself as scheming and being butthurt.

Gorath, you are terrible bro. Newmy old friend is a 4chan meme, goddamn you are dumb. Get arrested again for carrying a dangerous knife, you criminal.


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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:18:35 pm

I guess this is the new official anti-lljk circle jerk thread so I might as well throw this out again. I have been verbally abused in teamspeak. They called me things like "idiot" or "you fuck." Such language is hurtful and I excepted more from the outwardly civilized LLJK. What happened to our erotic rps of yesteryear? Do you not remember our many times larping and group anime watchathons? Such days are over it seems. Gone with the wind maybe, but let me be a living tribute to the fact that those memories will still live on my heart.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:20:54 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:15:08 pm

Sorry we're twofaced? We honestly, in your own words even, came over to repair and work with you guys. You put on an act of being angry. Yea i'm the bad guy. Least i'm honest.

We did the classic prank of "Good Goon and Bad Goon." Nothing Canary said or we said was worthwhile and didn't need to be heard. Canary only came over to make himself feel better. He still has admin on our server, we still think of him as a pubbie bro, and have no ill will towards him or Chaos. Another ad hominem :bravo:

The only pubbie my old friends are Hospergallers.

Quote from: Rannepear on June 19, 2011, 09:18:04 pm

Hardly pay to play...

Thats how they get ya!

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:24:21 pm

Quote from: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:18:35 pm

I guess this is the new official anti-lljk circle jerk thread so I might as well throw this out again. I have been verbally abused in teamspeak. They called me things like "idiot" or "you fuck." Such language is hurtful and I excepted more from the outwardly civilized LLJK. What happened to our erotic rps of yesteryear? Do you not remember our many times larping and group anime watchathons? Such days are over it seems. Gone with the wind maybe, but let me be a living tribute to the fact that those memories will still live on my heart.

I honestly like the members of lljk. I know you guys are trying to just have fun. Gotta say though you were lied to Gaga by the looks of what he's posting. I dunno what he said last night or today to make you believe some stupid reasoning for him pouting, but he blew the deal not us. As for phantom, i stick to the fact that he's a good guy, and i give him credit for sticking with gaga, he had the opportunity to fix things but didn't want to i guess.

In terms of anti lljk? If i were anti lljk i would have did a mass ban. I wouldn't have set you up with a server in the time frame where you had no one to play. Even now i'm chalking it up to the fact that your just misinformed when you troll because of the stuff you say is 85% coached.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Rannepear on June 19, 2011, 09:25:16 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:20:54 pm

Thats how they get ya!

Well, for one, that's only for the people who run the servers....

Secondly, remind me how to become a Goon, again?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:26:34 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:24:21 pm

I honestly like the members of lljk. I know you guys are trying to just have fun. Gotta say though you were lied to Gaga by the looks of what he's posting. I dunno what he said last night or today to make you believe some stupid reasoning for him pouting, but he blew the deal not us. As for phantom, i stick to the fact that he's a good guy, and i give him credit for sticking with gaga, he had the opportunity to fix things but didn't want to i guess.

In terms of anti lljk? If i were anti lljk i would have did a mass ban. I wouldn't have set you up with a server in the time frame where you had no one to play. Even now i'm chalking it up to the fact that your just misinformed when you troll because of the stuff you say is 85% coached.

Man, you are dumb.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:28:20 pm

Quote from: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:26:34 pm

Man, you are dumb.

The last resort post of the loser.  Thanks for playing though.  Such sad excuses for wannabe Goons.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 09:28:30 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:24:21 pm

just misinformed when you troll because of the stuff you say is 85% coached.

What an ironic thing to say.

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:28:20 pm

The last resort post of the loser.  Thanks for playing though.  Such sad excuses for wannabe Goons.

Really? calling people my old friends for riding coattails of the OG? And you have the gall to say that to someone else?

Nice.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:29:27 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:24:21 pm

I honestly like the members of lljk. I know you guys are trying to just have fun. Gotta say though you were lied to Gaga by the looks of what he's posting. I dunno what he said last night or today to make you believe some stupid reasoning for him pouting, but he blew the deal not us. As for phantom, i stick to the fact that he's a good guy, and i give him credit for sticking with gaga, he had the opportunity to fix things but didn't want to i guess.

In terms of anti lljk? If i were anti lljk i would have did a mass ban. I wouldn't have set you up with a server in the time frame where you had no one to play. Even now i'm chalking it up to the fact that your just misinformed when you troll because of the stuff you say is 85% coached.

Phantom is such a good guy that you set him up and called him out in this thread?

I blew the meeting, when both of us thought at the same time, that you guys were full of shit?

You guys were offering trade agreements, and like I previously stated, that is how Ecko plans on going to war. So no thank you, fuck that sir.

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:16:21 pm

Even if it were true, being an ex-con gives far more awesome points IRL than just being an e-thug wishing he was.

You seem to strive to be both.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Astinus on June 19, 2011, 09:30:33 pm

wtf is wrong with you? You were really planning to start a NA vs EU clan war? Are you crazy or masochist dudes?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: hellowrold on June 19, 2011, 09:31:06 pm

hey ecko here is a thing, no one in LLJK likes you! you are a massive massive bundle of sticks.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:31:28 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:28:20 pm

The last resort post of the loser.  Thanks for playing though.  Such sad excuses for wannabe Goons.

He just suggested that our trolling was choached and that gaga is indoctrinating us. I didn't think that needed much more than calling him dumb, but hey it was lost on you so maybe it does.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 19, 2011, 09:31:45 pm

Quote from: Astinus on June 19, 2011, 09:30:33 pm

wtf is wrong with you? You were really planning to start a NA vs EU clan war? Are you crazy or masochist dudes?

LLJK is NA, ATS is NA.

What? Or is this about the merc thingy...

EDIT: Oh why did I post in this thread, fml...

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ashrik on June 19, 2011, 09:32:06 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:16:21 pm

You yourself know that all of lljk are 4chan rejects pretending to be goons.  You commented many times about how they disgust you, Gaga.  It's ok, you can let it out.  I know how frustrating it must be to have to chill with these fuckwits instead of proper Goons with class and style.  There there, it's ok.

looooooool Holy crap. Be more obsessed about us Gorath. You're producing gold. 5'd

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: LLJK_Siggy on June 19, 2011, 09:32:40 pm

Hey Ecko, you do realize that any credibility you may have had with any of us flew out the window when you decided to post a chat log of a private conversation, right?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Astinus on June 19, 2011, 09:33:34 pm

Quote from: Tears_of_Destiny on June 19, 2011, 09:31:45 pm

LLJK is NA, ATS is NA.

What? Or is this about the merc thingy...

EDIT: Oh why did I post in this thread, fml...

but mercs aren't, are they?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:34:01 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:29:27 pm

Phantom is such a good guy that you set him up and called him out in this thread?

Did you even read the chat log? Like the second line says do you want to talk in teamspeak? I didn't set up shit...

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:29:27 pm

I blew the meeting, when both of us thought at the same time, that you guys were full of shit?

Is that before or after you left in less then 60 seconds of finishing? OR was that when canary came over to say that we wanted to still at least figure something else out?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 09:35:27 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:34:01 pm

Did you even read the chat log? Like the second line says do you want to talk in teamspeak? I didn't set up shit...

Is that before or after you left in less then 60 seconds of finishing? OR was that when canary came over to say that we wanted to still at least figure something else out?

Or when Canary then came into our TS and apologized to us for you guys being rude as shit without letting them talk?

Of course, *whistle* grass is always greener friend.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:35:46 pm

Quote from: hellowrold on June 19, 2011, 09:31:06 pm

hey ecko here is a thing, no one in LLJK likes you! you are a massive massive bundle of sticks.

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Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:36:27 pm

Quote from: Astinus on June 19, 2011, 09:30:33 pm

wtf is wrong with you? You were really planning to start a NA vs EU clan war? Are you crazy or masochist dudes?

That is Ecko original plan. He wanted to get LLJk and NE allied up, thus forcing UIF aka EU, to attack NA. What Ecko want  is NA strategus and getting LLJK into the NE would deadlock current strategus. EU clans wouldn' want to fight on NA strategus and vice versa. Who likes fighting a super serious battle with 130+ ping? No one that who. LLJK actually doesn't mind strategus as it is, since we have lot of EU goons.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Secret Agent Cow on June 19, 2011, 09:38:17 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:35:46 pm

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Please don't let me be the only person finds the irony in this post.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 09:40:05 pm

Quote from: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:35:46 pm

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Right, after all the insults of LLJK members, 4chan memes and image macros you post this? are you kidding?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:40:17 pm

Quote from: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:36:27 pm

That is Ecko original plan. He wanted to get LLJk and NE allied up, thus forcing UIF aka EU, to attack NA. What Ecko want  is NA strategus and getting LLJK into the NE would deadlock current strategus. EU clans wouldn' want to fight on NA strategus and vice versa. Who likes fighting a super serious battle with 130+ ping? No one that who. LLJK actually doesn't mind strategus as it is, since we have lot of EU goons.

THAT PART IS ACTUALLY TRUE. Finally. Yes, at one point i did think LLJK in Northern Empire might work after you came to me and asked about it. The conversation this morning was there to talk to phantom and try and recover and at least make it so we would not be fighting together or against each other. Apparently if your not in the goon alliance your their enemy though.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: LLJK_Fellblade on June 19, 2011, 09:40:57 pm

No, if you aren't allied with us then you aren't allied with us.  It's pretty simple.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:42:06 pm

Quote from: LLJK_Siggy on June 19, 2011, 09:32:40 pm

credibility

Quote from: [i

LLJK[/i] _Siggy] credibility

You so silly.

Quote from: Ashrik on June 19, 2011, 09:32:06 pm

looooooool Holy crap. Be more obsessed about us Gorath. You're producing gold. 5'd

Hmmm, who had their members scouring the net for information (that was public and for all to see in the first place btw) on who now?  Well done.  /clap  Who has an entire group of people trying to deal with an individual?  Yeah, you need more zerglings.  I think the obsession train pulls into your station there broskeeter.
*I realize you can't say anything publicly Gaga, but I know that you're sighing and nodding to yourself in agreement with me where noone can see.  Feel free to come into TS if you need to vent again bro, I got your back.*

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:42:55 pm

Quote from: LLJK_Fellblade on June 19, 2011, 09:40:57 pm

No, if you aren't allied with us then you aren't allied with us.  It's pretty simple.

Not allied with DRZ...never was. Yet we had a defensive pact...we might trade too.


Not allied with fallen either, might want to trade with them as well.

Not allied with ALMOST ALL OF STRATEGUS.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Snatch on June 19, 2011, 09:43:43 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:40:17 pm

THAT PART IS ACTUALLY TRUE. Finally. Yes, at one point i did think LLJK in Northern Empire might work after you came to me and asked about it. The conversation this morning was there to talk to phantom and try and recover and at least make it so we would not be fighting together or against each other. Apparently if your not in the goon alliance your their enemy though.

Step 1: Try to recover relations
Step 2: Talk in IRC
Step 3: Post private chat logs on forums
Step 4: ?????
Step 5: Best Friends

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: LLJK_Fellblade on June 19, 2011, 09:44:14 pm

Good job we agree that alliance means alliance?

Joining the Northern Empire means trading with them, not allying with them, seems simple?

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: arab on June 19, 2011, 09:45:26 pm

How can you go off and backstab people, and then expect them to like you, you fuck. Hope you enjoy fighting the mercs alone~

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:45:46 pm

 

Quote from: LLJK_Fellblade on June 19, 2011, 09:44:14 pm

Good job we agree that alliance means alliance?

Joining the Northern Empire means trading with them, not allying with them, seems simple?

Not true...allied with Occitan, Chaos, TS, and Hospitaller. Looking for more as well, but its hard to find good people.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Gorath on June 19, 2011, 09:46:38 pm

Quote from: arab on June 19, 2011, 09:45:26 pm

How can you go off and backstab people, and then expect them to like you, you fuck. Hope you enjoy fighting the mercs alone~

Goons aren't people you silly bitch.   :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: Sinic on June 19, 2011, 09:47:43 pm

Quote from: Ecko on June 19, 2011, 09:40:17 pm

THAT PART IS ACTUALLY TRUE. Finally. Yes, at one point i did think LLJK in Northern Empire might work after you came to me and asked about it. The conversation this morning was there to talk to phantom and try and recover and at least make it so we would not be fighting together or against each other. Apparently if your not in the goon alliance your their enemy though.

I love the conjecture passing off as a fact. Seems to be a trend with you Ecko.

Another fine actual fact is that the more this thread goes on the more Ecko admits to doing when before he admitted to do no wrong. A fine lesson for everyone.

Title: Re: Why things should not be discussed on IRC
Post by: gallemore on June 19, 2011, 09:48:09 pm

Good posts, but Phantom still likes Penis.