Talk to Uther about making an unban essay. I personally don't think what you did is enough to land you a permanent ban, but you're still a douchebag.
afaik its more about the bot on NA then the peasants united thing
07.09.2017 18:42:16 Crush_and_Kill Received 10627393 from the bank via Crush_and_Kill
If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Yea, the "common sense" thingy again. The guy did nothing that was forbidden by the rules - he just claimed the leadership of a dead clan and took the money from its bank, yet somehow he still deseves a ban. Fuck logic. As it was his fault that the leaders paid no attention to their clan anymore. This common sense makes no sense to me at all.
guy didnt even come back properly to the game and I didnt see him ingame once but he already managed to egoistically loot 10 million from the most solidary clan for his own amusement and the first thing he does ingame is giving run to his new leeching bot. (on 2 accounts)Go fuck yourself, retard. You are litteraly was one of the Peasant United clan co-leaders. Who's fault again that you gave no fuck about saving the clan's money or keeping the banner slot at least? "Most solidary clan" my ass :mrgreen:
Not convinced, sorry.
Don't go like "it's not against the rules." It is. The common sense rule is there for a reason, it's not a "de jure" rule, and it means if you act like a dick, you will pay for it.hooley-moley, look who's talking. so, banning Pandor without consulting with the other admins, which lead to unbanning him in the end, or renaming Yuhmaz's forum account to something humaliating without permission again is fine, and not being a dick. Okay, go on, speak some more, mr. Good Admin :mrgreen:
If throwing tantrum on the forum can get you banned, if spoiling Star Wars movies can get you banned, if kicking everyone from a clan can get you banned, then this will definitely get you banned.aaaaaaaahahaha fucking lol :lol: Are you're even seroius with this shit? You are telling me that you're fine with banning people for spoiling Star Wars movies and use it as ecxuse for this case? It's just like a court's judge would say something: "Come on guys, in the end Sacco and Vanzetti got sentenced to electric chair for no reason, so why I can't send this random guy to the prison just because I can".
If throwing tantrum on the forum can get you banned, if spoiling Star Wars movies can get you banned, if kicking everyone from a clan can get you banned, then this will definitely get you banned.
Don't go like "it's not against the rules." It is.
you took out the money from The Peasants United clan bank, which is not outright forbidden and I can understand why you did that
lol'd
Maybe ease up on punishment for stuff that isn't directly hurtful to other peoples gameplay experience.
Keep him banned. The mod has players now, keeping a botting/money-stealing douchebag has no advantages whatsoever. Or if you really want to unban him, make him bear some humiliating title that he can't remove manually. Robbing a clan bank is something already, robbing the bank of a clan meant to help new players is just a whole new level of being a dick.
I don't understand why you guys are trying to argue against this punishment. None of the admins will budge to unban his account, but he can still play. Tell him to go buy a new cd key. If he's caught botting again, it will be an IP ban next and he won't be able to ever play(he can keep trying to log in using vpn etc but i'll just keep banning him).
I'm open to hearing community response to this and what their thoughts are, as long as the discussion stays on-topic. I do not guarantee or promise it'll affect our current decision, which is: ban stays.
According to Krabat, who talked with us yesterday, you wanted to use the money to buy yourself some +3 items, so thanks for already admitting to thatEhm no ! First of all I wrote to Ulfur ! And the text you just copy pasted is like in the middle of our discussion! I explained that Kaskar told me that he was going to use it for the armoury to get some loomed stuff in there( there are like 15 + items in there ...). I did never ever say that he was going to use it for himself sorry but if ulfur is already showing you our steam chat please tell him to show everthing and not only a little part .
and ignored all their PMs asking to be returned to a higher clan rank, that I'd be punished.he hasn’t got a massage by a admin that warned him!
This punishment is hard but deserved. Even if there is no explicit mention regarding clan bank management in the game rules, i presume the common sense is much more than an abstract rule, it is a fundamental principle that reinforce the existing rules ; a principle which even have a juridic value beyond the gaming sphere.First of all he has got a punishment for the Botting already ! 1year ban on the Na Servers And I meant by what would happen if he did not take it? First of all there was nobody leading the clan ! And the money in the bank would have stayed there for ever. If there is nobody leading the clan the bank won’t get used for the new players! But Kaskar was doing something! He was probably even going to buy loomed stuff for the clan but we will never know because you are all not trusting me nor Kaskar and there was also nobody asking him about that pquestion !!! And then the lack of players .... throvic I don’t know how long you already play but we had days with over 300 players and nowadays we have got 1 thrid of it we did not had to ask for going on siege to play it or asking for eu7 and shit ...
If we don't consider the "botting" thing (which has already be punished according to the game rules), that guy just stole more than 10m gold from Peasants United's bank, the most "solidary clan" ever created on this mod ; and you guys are still trying to defend him/asking for a ban lifting ? I mean, even if we can't establish the final purpose of such a money withdraw, we can presume that he committed his action with bad intentions considering the facts Uther reported in his post ; which is enough to qualify an infringement of this common sense principle.
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- Lack of players, are you kidding me ? The mod has never been as active as it is nowadays, he won't miss anyone (well, not everyone, since some of you shown their commitment into seeing Kaskar unbanned).
- What would have happen if he did not take it, WTF By that, you admit the idea it is fine to take tons of money from a bank since no one complains about it ? So maybe you think all the players who gave/lent their money to PU Bank all agreed to finally see their investments in the pockets of a selfish cunt ?
I'd be pretty sure that if I took advantage and stole all the gold from Grey Order bank after deranking everyone, and ignored all their PMs asking to be returned to a higher clan rank, that I'd be punished.
Its not a rule ! So how should he know about rules that are not existing ?!
I'm just saying you are lying about not knowing it being a rule.
- second, you took out the money from The Peasants United clan bank, which is not outright forbidden and I can understand why you did that
not outright forbidden
If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.