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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: S3adle on July 21, 2017, 02:37:49 am

Title: Needs to be talked about
Post by: S3adle on July 21, 2017, 02:37:49 am
If you have an issue with someone's name tell them why. Seriously, why am I being banned from the server for having the name MechaHit-ler and then someone *cough*Sparvico*cough* has the audacity to go into my account and change my characters name to Judaism is my life after I changed my name myself and revert my character to level 1? Higher up admins something needs to happen about this.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 02:41:04 am
If you have an issue with someone's name tell them why. Seriously, why am I being banned from the server for having the name MechaHit-ler and then someone *cough*Sparvico*cough* has the audacity to go into my account and change my characters name to Judaism is my life after I changed my name myself and revert my character to level 1? Higher up admins something needs to happen about this.

Posted on the wrong account, but still stands.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Horns on July 21, 2017, 02:44:57 am
Lol I did that because it is more entertaining then making you change your name again. Plus I get to riff off of the stupid shit you put as your name (Mechaeinstein to Judaism_is_my_life, classic). IMO win-win, I get entertainment and you don't have to change your name. I also removed STF off the character because you have to live with that name for a little bit longer than if I just did it normally.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 02:47:57 am
Lol I did that because it is more entertaining then making you change your name again. Plus I get to riff off of the stupid shit you put as your name. IMO win-win, I get entertainment and you don't have to change your name. I also removed STF off the character because you have to live with that name for a little bit longer than if I just did it normally.
I just did STF again and if you don't like the name, don't make someone change it. You also took the name MechaStalin away which has nothing bad about it. I'd like it back, unless of course you'd like to ban all dictator names from the mod.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 02:49:35 am
My current character name is MechaKim. I'm implying the Jong-il is on there, but if you would like to take that away as well you can.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Horns on July 21, 2017, 02:52:28 am
Yeah, you can get it back. Really it was mostly for MechHitIer that I changed it. Never thought somebody would actually make a forum post for me changing their name to contradict themselves.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 02:53:20 am
Yeah, you can get it back. Really it was mostly for MechHitIer that I changed it. Never thought somebody would actually make a forum post for me changing their name to contradict themselves.
Where did I contradict myself?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 21, 2017, 02:54:02 am
if i say something you don't like what is to keep you from deleting all of my shit
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 03:07:27 am
Lol I did that because it is more entertaining then making you change your name again. Plus I get to riff off of the stupid shit you put as your name (Mechaeinstein to Judaism_is_my_life, classic). IMO win-win, I get entertainment and you don't have to change your name. I also removed STF off the character because you have to live with that name for a little bit longer than if I just did it normally.

I don't think you understand what a win-win situation is.

if i say something you don't like what is to keep you from deleting all of my shit

This is the way the mod is headed.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Westwood on July 21, 2017, 04:13:18 am
Stalin killed a lot more people than Hitler did
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 21, 2017, 07:58:32 am
Stalin killed a lot more people than Hitler did

That's exactly what I said, but he's free game.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 21, 2017, 10:58:39 am
wait is ridiculing einstein sth bad these days?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Golem on July 21, 2017, 11:03:39 am
...well he did kindof enable the use of an atom bomb.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: POOPHAMMER on July 21, 2017, 11:10:07 am
Lol I did that because it is more entertaining then making you change your name again. Plus I get to riff off of the stupid shit you put as your name (Mechaeinstein to Judaism_is_my_life, classic). IMO win-win, I get entertainment and you don't have to change your name. I also removed STF off the character because you have to live with that name for a little bit longer than if I just did it normally.

"I abused my powers to amuse myself"

-cRPG dev 2017
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 21, 2017, 12:20:39 pm
readin g this thread is giving me a sikc feeling of deja vu is agent smith coming 4 me??
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Oberyn on July 21, 2017, 12:39:43 pm
Just call yourself MechaPolPot, or MechaMao, or MechaLenin, or MechaStalin, or MechaGengisKhan, or etc etc all the way back to the dawn of human history. All of those wonderful people aren't censored by the comically inept self-loathing zeigeist of modern day krauts.

Obviously Sparvico Seadle could have done that if his intended purpose wasn't to be a stupid fucking troll pretending he's suffering for free speech or whatever retarded excuse is common now in NA servers to be useless stupid cunts. Just accept that cRPG servers are subject to dictatorial and fascist speech laws imposed by krauts, they aren't very good at recognizing irony. Probably comes from being humourless robotic sausage fanatics who can only approximate human emotion when completely drunk on schnaps.

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 21, 2017, 12:53:11 pm
imposed by krauts

who are the guys youre talking about tho
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Molly on July 21, 2017, 01:11:32 pm
who are the guys youre talking about tho
He probably doesn't know at this point. He just wanted to let go yet another rant about something...
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Oberyn on July 21, 2017, 01:42:42 pm
I was under the impression the obsession with H1tler and naz1s being censored everywhere on this forum and the game is specifically because of german law and because german and austrian players/devs/whoever pays for the forum/servers could potentially end up in legal problems. I'm open to being disabused of the notion.

Molly, are you ever tired of being wrong? The many years I've known of you says no, but I had to ask.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 21, 2017, 01:51:11 pm
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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 21, 2017, 02:26:42 pm
I feel like the current NA populace is just giving up on creative trolling and only trying to break the rules to be cool. Try harder kids, if you're going to troll, learn how to do it. Breaking the rules blatantly and complaining on forums is not trolling. It's just sad.

Oberyn, since you can't read, this wasn't Sparvico it was Horns. Rant on my friend.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Horns on July 21, 2017, 02:38:11 pm
Jesus what a bunch of quivering vaginas. You are all trolls and can't handle when somebody else does it to you even the slightest bit. Man up or get out of fuck town. Sad...
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 21, 2017, 02:40:44 pm
Jesus what a bunch of quivering vaginas. You are all trolls and can't handle when somebody else does it to you even the slightest bit. Man up or get out of fuck town. Sad...

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Sparvico on July 21, 2017, 02:48:00 pm
Just call yourself MechaPolPot, or MechaMao, or MechaLenin, or MechaStalin, or MechaGengisKhan, or etc etc all the way back to the dawn of human history. All of those wonderful people aren't censored by the comically inept self-loathing zeigeist of modern day krauts.

Obviously Sparvico could have done that if his intended purpose wasn't to be a stupid fucking troll pretending he's suffering for free speech or whatever retarded excuse is common now in NA servers to be useless stupid cunts. Just accept that cRPG servers are subject to dictatorial and fascist speech laws imposed by krauts, they aren't very good at recognizing irony. Probably comes from being humourless robotic sausage fanatics who can only approximate human emotion when completely drunk on schnaps.

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 21, 2017, 03:32:18 pm
I was under the impression the obsession with H1tler and naz1s being censored everywhere on this forum and the game is specifically because of german law and because german and austrian players/devs/whoever pays for the forum/servers could potentially end up in legal problems. I'm open to being disabused of the notion.

Molly, are you ever tired of being wrong? The many years I've known of you says no, but I had to ask.

Hilter and nasis are quite a discussed topic in germany,  I guess its seen as a historical duty to keep the knowledge about that part of germanies history alive / well know/  not distorted.  But I am quite sure there is no censoring going on in the level you are thinking of.

Forbidden are things going against the constitution.  there is a Reichs movement for example,  that thinks there is no German state,  and that they still live in the kaiserreich.  which is against the law.  next to being weird.
considering nasi things:  denying historical facts from that era is against constitution,  making fun of it not at all.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Oberyn on July 21, 2017, 04:28:31 pm
Yes of course, Germany absolutely has no tradition of censoring naz1 imagery and themes in video games, or violence or anything else, no laws devoted to that very purpose, full on realistic historical portrayals all the way, it's probably yet another of those famous Oberyn figments of imagination.

Lol they couldn't even show a portrait of H1tler in HoI4, like it's fucking Muhammed or something.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 21, 2017, 04:49:56 pm
Yes of course, Germany absolutely has no tradition of censoring naz1 imagery and themes in video games, or violence or anything else, no laws devoted to that very purpose, full on realistic historical portrayals all the way, it's probably yet another of those famous Oberyn figments of imagination.

Lol they couldn't even show a portrait of H1tler in HoI4, like it's fucking Muhammed or something.

I was more of the impression you were talking about censorship in the forum.  are you not? 

Using imagery of anti-constitutional organizations like the cute puppy is only allowed in artforms,  which is why they are OK in movies.  Computer games are no art form in the eye of german law,  so the use is not allowed.  Violence is censored in german games because of the youth protection laws. 
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 21, 2017, 04:53:54 pm
Computer games are no art form in the eye of german law

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 06:02:31 pm
Trolling by teamkilling or simply saying friend, pff amateurs.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 21, 2017, 06:09:52 pm
Liking every post everyone ever made on an entire forum. Now there is a troll.  8-)
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 06:18:19 pm
Liking every post everyone ever made on an entire forum. Now there is a troll.  8-)

I had such power, imagine if i stopped liking some specific persons posts. He wouldve been mildly confused, man what a score. So many possibilities, but all that went down the drain with the game. Still, effort wasnt completely wasted, i had a good run.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 21, 2017, 06:32:42 pm
I had such power, imagine if i stopped liking some specific persons posts. He wouldve been mildly confused, man what a score. So many possibilities, but all that went down the drain with the game. Still, effort wasnt completely wasted, i had a good run.

every +1 you give to ANYONE here gives me a slight errection.  talking about power.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: StonedSteel on July 21, 2017, 06:43:47 pm
goddamn it...I had a perfect 1234 post count...but this shit...its too fucking ridiculous not to post on.

first off, no, molly never gets tired of being wrong, and 2nd, the devs/admins are just as bad as the trolls at this point.

horns, stfu man, you post the same "post like tough guys then act like vaginas" shit everytime, but coming from one of the most sensitive admins this shit community has had, its such a bad joke, you're the one getting offended by dumb shit horns, so stfu and quit being a hypocrite. you're either being a hypocritical snowflake, or a corrupt cunt lad.

Seadle, just change your name to Mecha_Leopold and horns probably wont even notice or mind seeing as he's a dumb fucking kid who probably knows dick all about history.

its a good thing for EU that they don't have admins like horns, or people like Knitler_the_Grey would be banned asap, not that horns probably even gives a fuck, hes more than willing to insult offend and put others down so I highly doubt its about being offensive...so much as abusing your power is fun / funny.

tldr: get fucked horns this is getting ridiculous m8.
"I hate crpg but I still play and cry about it like a little bitch" - I take it I have Horns to thank for this unchangeable unremovable character title?

well played. so this your thing now huh? you go around changing the names and titles of all the people you don't like?
trolling trolls...makes you a troll...you understand that right?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Horns on July 21, 2017, 07:01:14 pm
goddamn it...I had a perfect 1234 post count...but this shit...its too fucking ridiculous not to post on.

first off, no, molly never gets tired of being wrong, and 2nd, the devs/admins are just as bad as the trolls at this point.

horns, stfu man, you post the same "post like tough guys then act like vaginas" shit everytime, but coming from one of the most sensitive admins this shit community has had, its such a bad joke, you're the one getting offended by dumb shit horns, so stfu and quit being a hypocrite. you're either being a hypocritical snowflake, or a corrupt cunt lad.

Seadle, just change your name to Mecha_Leopold and horns probably wont even notice or mind seeing as he's a dumb fucking kid who probably knows dick all about history.

its a good thing for EU that they don't have admins like horns, or people like Knitler_the_Grey would be banned asap, not that horns probably even gives a fuck, hes more than willing to insult offend and put others down so I highly doubt its about being offensive...so much as abusing your power is fun / funny.

tldr: get fucked horns this is getting ridiculous m8.
"I hate crpg but I still play and cry about it like a little bitch" - I take it I have Horns to thank for this unchangeable unremovable character title?

well played. so this your thing now huh? you go around changing the names and titles of all the people you don't like?
trolling trolls...makes you a troll...you understand that right?

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 07:20:45 pm
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Thats how everyone reacts when playing golf, at least mini golf from my experience lol. Weird that someone chose to put trumps face on there considering he is supposedly really good at golf.

Oh and CRPG admins were always trolls, even i made it on there for a bit which helped me quit playing. And the devs were even worse so than the admins, its really funny to see people complain about it 7 years into this dead mod. But then again it doesnt need to make much sense for stonersteve to rant about it.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 21, 2017, 07:27:51 pm
Liking every post everyone ever made on an entire forum. Now there is a troll.  8-)

Schizo1234567 or whatever, was the best at doing that. I loved that guy or girl, may they RIP.

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: POOPHAMMER on July 21, 2017, 07:28:24 pm
I have a small penis
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 07:33:01 pm
Schizo1234567 or whatever, was the best at doing that. I loved that guy or girl, may they RIP.

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He came out of nowhere like a blessing on this forum, making his weird (really weird) threads and just liking everything. Truly an inspiration.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 21, 2017, 07:45:38 pm
Wow you weren't kidding

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... and I don't think I interacted with him once. Must have been before my time.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 07:52:35 pm
Wait, the okam forum has been replaced by a new one? Guess my efforts are completely gone now then. Man the new one looks shitty too.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Westwood on July 21, 2017, 08:05:42 pm
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Yes, more of that!

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As an American I am obligated to have faith in people generally and believe in winning hearts and minds rather than the use of forceful coercion by government. Therefore Obi-Wan is correct and Germany is silly.

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Jona on July 21, 2017, 08:43:11 pm
And the devs were even worse so than the admins

That was always the issue right there, the fact that a little bit of coding knowledge combined with giving e-blowies to the right people could land you an admin/item balancer position never made any sense to me.  That's like me interviewing for an engineering position at GE and since I complimented the interviewer's tie and have a firm enough handshake I'm immediately promoted to CEO or VP of the company. A little bit of engineering knowledge doesn't mean I have any business knowhow or any other knowledge required to actually do that job, and yet that's what crpg has been doing since its inception. Take Tydeus, for example. The dude knew how to edit animations and code and shit, so they gave him the keys to kingdom. Sure, he was good enough at coding and such, but obviously he sucked ass as a balancer, and did a questionable-at-best job as an admin (jk he was pretty much corrupt af). I never understood why we couldn't have separate people on the balancing team: those that actually had a good sense of the game and knew what would make it as fun for all as possible that only did "balancing" by tweaking item values/character stats/deciding on whether or not any animations needed tweaking/etc. (the balancers/advisers), and those that would implement the changes requested by the balancers to the best of their ability (the coders/devs).

Now while I realize that in order for balancers to have access to all the tools to do their job they had to be given admin rights in-game, that is no reason why they were allowed to use those powers to police the game or actively patrol the forums. Because there was never a distinction between admin, item balancer, and coder/dev, we've had devs who are shit admins, balancers (who should be nothing more than devs) be shit admins, and shit admins try to be balancers. Looking at the more controversial admins, they are almost always devs/balancers first, admins second. Bronto, SP1N, Hungry, Granpappy, James, and plenty more that I'm forgetting (and all the EU ones, if there were any), crpg has had plenty of good or at least acceptable admins over the years who were only admins. I'd argue that Sparvico too is a fine admin that only recently is shown in a more negative light since let's face it, the community probably deserves what it's been getting. Now if we list the names of balancers/devs who became admins for no reason... Tydeus, Dupre, Horns (and cmp too, tbh, although at least he had more of an excuse for being able to do w.e. the fuck he wanted)... well, they've all made some of the more questionable decisions, to say the least.

Crpg has never had the distinct roles that it needed, and instead the community is expected to suck the dick of some undeserving, power-tripping sperg with a couple of credits in compsci classes. Crpg has always had this problem, and we can only expect the us vs. them mentality of the community (and all-around shitty decision making from up top) to continue until the end of this mod's life unless some of the few people in the oligarchy actually realize that this is an issue chipping away at the mod's lifespan and give up some of their power during a restructuring of things (lol yeah right).
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 21, 2017, 08:49:35 pm
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I never really saw it as an issue, but the EU scene has been quite different from the NA scene. I always enjoyed the devs being douchebags to people who acted up, even tho i dont like people being banned, panos and bjord getting to eat shit was a joy.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 21, 2017, 09:30:16 pm
how 2 suk admindik (ez steps)

1. change name to heskeytime


sorry that i dont agree with people being muted for saying "einstein" in chat
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 21, 2017, 09:57:17 pm
Couldn't have said it better, Jona

I remember a time when I felt welcome here with all my antics :(

Admins used to talk to me like a friend and slap a ban on me with no negative feelings exchanged when I broke the rules, nowadays there's this like moral crusade played out by nerdy losers against types like me and my friends
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 21, 2017, 10:20:09 pm
Admins used to talk to me like a friend and slap a ban on me with no negative feelings exchanged when I broke the rules, nowadays there's this like moral crusade played out by nerdy losers against types like me and my friends

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For the record Havelle, I did and always do talk to you like a normal human being. Even today when you were on, I had a conversation with you about your ban. The fact that you keep evading it is why you remain banned. I have no idea who banned you but I heard your story. There is no secret agenda by the admins to undermine you and your friends and never has been. It is purely coincidence that the people knowingly breaking the rules happen to be your associates. I've played the mod for a long ass time, too long really, and in all that time I've never seen people act in the way they are now. Thinking that they should be able to get away with anything and when they don't, have the rest of their friends come on here to say how unjust and unfair the system is.  At this stage in the mod's life, you'd think people who were still here would actually want to play it, rather than test how far they can bend the rules before getting paddled; then take the paddling because what they did was knowingly a test of how far they could push. Instead, we have devolved into a community where any punishment is a crime against humanity and countless threads are made discussing the same thing. It's exhausting. Can't we all just get along?

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 21, 2017, 10:49:44 pm
Every single one of you are disappointing your parents.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 21, 2017, 10:55:06 pm
Every single one of you are disappointing your parents.

dad?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 21, 2017, 10:56:14 pm


I do appreciate you hearing me out, you've always been a good guy Bronto and that post wasn't referring to you. I think calling it a conspiracy is kind of hyperbole, but some of the posts from the admin forum dating back from friendgate do imply(if not outright state) that me and my friends are no longer welcome here.

I'm also not the biggest fan of some of the aspects the current mob mentality. The personal attacks that haven been thrown around on certain admins disgust me. At the same time people are airing their opinions and mostly being dismissed.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 21, 2017, 11:00:00 pm
Every single one of you are disappointing your parents.

Thanks for reminding me of the past. Mine were murdered in front of me after taking me to see a movie at the tender age of nine. It was just random mugging. I've had to use my father's wealth to start a hugely successful business. In time, I've learned to deal with it somewhat but have been using the profits to design a technologically advanced secret cave and many gadgets to help me fight crime when I'm not at work. I hope someday I'll find that bastard that did this but in the mean time, I'm helping the local police round up notorious criminals and lock them all in one location together. They've even designed a light that they shine in the sky with a symbol of my choosing to alert me when crimes are taking place. It's even tougher than my day job but I do get to maintain my status as a socialite all the while harboring a secret identity.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Dupre on July 21, 2017, 11:14:13 pm
wat happen
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Jona on July 21, 2017, 11:37:54 pm
but I do get to maintain my status as a socialite

You had me going up until this point... fake and gay.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Sparvico on July 22, 2017, 01:10:05 am
wat happen

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: kasMVC on July 22, 2017, 02:10:14 am
That was always the issue right there, the fact that a little bit of coding knowledge combined with giving e-blowies to the right people could land you an admin/item balancer position never made any sense to me.  That's like me interviewing for an engineering position at GE and since I complimented the interviewer's tie and have a firm enough handshake I'm immediately promoted to CEO or VP of the company. A little bit of engineering knowledge doesn't mean I have any business knowhow or any other knowledge required to actually do that job, and yet that's what crpg has been doing since its inception. Take Tydeus, for example. The dude knew how to edit animations and code and shit, so they gave him the keys to kingdom. Sure, he was good enough at coding and such, but obviously he sucked ass as a balancer, and did a questionable-at-best job as an admin (jk he was pretty much corrupt af). I never understood why we couldn't have separate people on the balancing team: those that actually had a good sense of the game and knew what would make it as fun for all as possible that only did "balancing" by tweaking item values/character stats/deciding on whether or not any animations needed tweaking/etc. (the balancers/advisers), and those that would implement the changes requested by the balancers to the best of their ability (the coders/devs).

Now while I realize that in order for balancers to have access to all the tools to do their job they had to be given admin rights in-game, that is no reason why they were allowed to use those powers to police the game or actively patrol the forums. Because there was never a distinction between admin, item balancer, and coder/dev, we've had devs who are shit admins, balancers (who should be nothing more than devs) be shit admins, and shit admins try to be balancers. Looking at the more controversial admins, they are almost always devs/balancers first, admins second. Bronto, SP1N, Hungry, Granpappy, James, and plenty more that I'm forgetting (and all the EU ones, if there were any), crpg has had plenty of good or at least acceptable admins over the years who were only admins. I'd argue that Sparvico too is a fine admin that only recently is shown in a more negative light since let's face it, the community probably deserves what it's been getting. Now if we list the names of balancers/devs who became admins for no reason... Tydeus, Dupre, Horns (and cmp too, tbh, although at least he had more of an excuse for being able to do w.e. the fuck he wanted)... well, they've all made some of the more questionable decisions, to say the least.

Crpg has never had the distinct roles that it needed, and instead the community is expected to suck the dick of some undeserving, power-tripping sperg with a couple of credits in compsci classes. Crpg has always had this problem, and we can only expect the us vs. them mentality of the community (and all-around shitty decision making from up top) to continue until the end of this mod's life unless some of the few people in the oligarchy actually realize that this is an issue chipping away at the mod's lifespan and give up some of their power during a restructuring of things (lol yeah right).

Jona you're a g well said. To be fair I think saying friend should result in an hour ban not my 6 day one haha but what can you do. I probably wont say it again I just did it because everyone else was
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 22, 2017, 05:40:08 am
I do appreciate you hearing me out, you've always been a good guy Bronto and that post wasn't referring to you. I think calling it a conspiracy is kind of hyperbole, but some of the posts from the admin forum dating back from friendgate do imply(if not outright state) that me and my friends are no longer welcome here.

I'm also not the biggest fan of some of the aspects the current mob mentality. The personal attacks that haven been thrown around on certain admins disgust me. At the same time people are airing their opinions and mostly being dismissed.

for fuck's sake i think i'm being turned into a blood-sucking liberal like havelle
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 22, 2017, 09:32:12 am
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the thing is people like me who are treated like a rabies ridden LUNATIC DO want to play the game. i want to joke around and make people laugh. im not a danger 2 the community im a failed comedian. a lot of the admin crew currently is treating ALL of these recent cases as if the offender was spamming "friend" and being a complete scamp just ruining everything. a good few of the recent bans are just meme names. no one's hurting anyone, no one's really hurting the mod at all. if anything the stray noobie will laugh their ass off at the autismal state of the servers and decide 2 stay to join the fun.

i mean i've been treated like i'm a no-good piece of shit (which i am) who is just decimating the quality of life here in crpg. im just trying to goof off with my boys without actually harming the experience of anyone else in this mod. so far the only harm ive actually done 2 anyone is just frustrating all of these admins with my posts.

and to talk about crimes against humanity: banning cikel for 6 god damned days for his most apprehensive and rare drop of the N bomb.... like in teamspeak I always try to coax that guy into being a loon and he never wants to mess around on the server and get in trouble... he doesnt have any real recent bans that I know of and he gets MERKED for 6 days?

it's just like because we're fucking goofasses we can't be taken seriously. every time i make a thread about some weird verdicts by sparvico, it's automatically assumed by my political opposition that i was spamming friend or tking or something. thats not me i dont do that shit use horns little log search i may have dropped the N bomb a couple times recently but 2 call me a spammer? a tker? el MONSTRO????

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Sparvico on July 22, 2017, 09:42:39 am
snip

I'll take a short break from the dernald trhump memes to reply to this. We cannot tell what your intention is, we can only judge you on what we see. What we see is you blatantly breaking a pretty easy rule to follow. There are probably thousands of words in the English language you could choose from to replace friend that would be totally allowed. Obviously not other racial slurs. We have set a few words aside as not being allowed because it helps create a better environment for everyone in the server. If you knowingly break the rules, especially frequently, you will get banned for it.

Incidentally Horns has made a list of the top spammers of the N-word in the server. You are number 3 or 4 (sugar is whichever one your not). The number one spot is Bicep and he is currently serving a 15 day ban. This isn't a case of nebulous half truths that can't be proven anymore. We have ample evidence that shows you are exactly as much of a shit as we've always know. If you want to continue playing this mod you need to abide by the rules. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 22, 2017, 10:15:43 am
Attention needs to be brought to the way you folks are behaving lately, and I think it says a lot that the administration only actively engages with people they believe they can beat in an argument.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 22, 2017, 10:58:07 am
I'll take a short break from the dernald trhump memes to reply to this. We cannot tell what your intention is, we can only judge you on what we see. What we see is you blatantly breaking a pretty easy rule to follow. There are probably thousands of words in the English language you could choose from to replace friend that would be totally allowed. Obviously not other racial slurs. We have set a few words aside as not being allowed because it helps create a better environment for everyone in the server. If you knowingly break the rules, especially frequently, you will get banned for it.

Incidentally Horns has made a list of the top spammers of the N-word in the server. You are number 3 or 4 (sugar is whichever one your not). The number one spot is Bicep and he is currently serving a 15 day ban. This isn't a case of nebulous half truths that can't be proven anymore. We have ample evidence that shows you are exactly as much of a shit as we've always know. If you want to continue playing this mod you need to abide by the rules. Pretty simple.

again you're turning it into that argument. none of my recent bans are for that use of the N word. none in fact as far as I know. i may be on that list in 3rd or 4th spot but i doubt the reliability of it. man i can probably count the times ive said the N word since january with the fingers on my right hand (i have 7 fingers on my right hand) i really dont use it as much as you accuse me of doing. like jesus christ saying friend was never really my thing its kind of astonishing to hear im on that list

(where am i at on the list for most bans? that bitch bicep better feel me comin )

tell horns to link his special little script (which was more important to develop than actually progressing the mod) to some sort of feed where it can be seen by everyone
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 22, 2017, 11:51:02 am
tell horns to link his special little script (which was more important to develop than actually progressing the mod) to some sort of feed where it can be seen by everyone

one of the few sensible suggestions in the thread, my interest in the mod would be freshly re-kindled if i only had a REAL TIME feed of the cRPG chat

if you could add in notification functionality so i can get an alert on my phone when a semantic nuke has been dropped so i can see the online constabulary beat the fuck out of delinquents and ne'er-do-wells, i'd probably even donate

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 22, 2017, 03:29:17 pm
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I've got no problem with anyone wanting to goof around and have fun on the servers. The point of playing a game is to have fun. I'm only asking that you do it within the rules. You're making this problem much larger than it needs to be. A lot of people play this mod, goof off with their friends, have fun, and never get banned. It can be done. You should try it someday.

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Also, Horns is working on more than just scripting. We've been waiting for Dupre to return to push the next patch, which, now that he's reappeared will hopefully happen soon. Again, just follow the rules, don't be total twats, and situations/threads like this will not be necessary. 6 days for Cikl is pretty harsh but I wasn't there so I can't pass judgement on what he actually did to deserve it.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: HardRice on July 22, 2017, 05:31:29 pm
The other day some people were tossing slurs around in chat and instead of instantly muting or banning people, an admin non-obnoxiously told the server to "chill with the slurs" and guess what?  People stopped.

Quit treating people like they're below you (and quit giving multi-day bans for saying friend in chat) and maybe they'll react better when you ban/kick/mute them for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 05:46:51 pm
Thats a great plan there alligator, maybe the justice system should implement that irl. Stop writing people tickets and they will stop shoplifting, jaywalking and running redlights.

IS THAT BETTER! DID THE POINT CHANGE? Not enforcing rules doesn't magically make people obey rules.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: HardRice on July 22, 2017, 06:03:23 pm
Thats a great plan there alligator, maybe the justice system should implement that irl. Stop incarcerating people and they will stop murdering, raping and stealing.

Did you even read what I wrote??

Saying friend, or having the name "mechaeinstein"  on crpg is not the equivalent of rapists and murderers irl
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 06:24:03 pm
Did you even read what I wrote??

Saying friend, or having the name "mechaeinstein"  on crpg is not the equivalent of rapists and murderers irl
No but it is equivalent to follow the rules. I think its called an analogy. And trying to say if the admins didnt enforce said rules the rulebreakers wouldnt break the rules is retarded.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 22, 2017, 06:52:28 pm
No but it is equivalent to follow the rules. I think its called an analogy. And trying to say if the admins didnt enforce said rules the rulebreakers wouldnt break the rules is retarded.

yes but it's still a very false analogy. a real world comparison of meme names and chat abuse in crpg is something like j-walking or putting your paint in the trash.

comparing me using the spookyghost name to real world rape and murder seems a wee bit over the top dont you think you insane person
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 07:02:46 pm
Sure its an extreme analogy but the point is the same. So when the cop writes you a ticket for jaywalking do you cry as much about it as this?
Also I would really like to see a video with these kids that like to run around spewing the N word going to a black neighborhood in Oakland spewing it there loud and public.
edit: that might lead to a rape and a murder though so dont do it.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 22, 2017, 07:49:21 pm
I just want to point out that I was banned for saying "white people are subhuman" and spamming "penis" in I chat and I'm not arguing for people to be able to say "friend"
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: StonedSteel on July 22, 2017, 07:52:00 pm
Im so lucky fortunate, to have experienced the 90's, would have loved to live through even earlier times. We were safer then, with an amount of freedom, the newer generations couldnt even fathom.
Most of you live in America, but its clear most of you do not live by American ideals, it shouldnt be a Canadian reminding you "Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither"

I truly miss the 90's, especially the music.

"Rape meeee,
Rape meeee, My friend
Rape meeee,
Rape meeee, Again
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
Hate meeee, Do it n do it again
Waste meeee,
Rape meeee
My Friend
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME!"


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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: HardRice on July 22, 2017, 07:57:23 pm
Sure its an extreme analogy but the point is the same. So when the cop writes you a ticket for jaywalking do you cry as much about it as this?
Also I would really like to see a video with these kids that like to run around spewing the N word going to a black neighborhood in Oakland spewing it there loud and public.
edit: that might lead to a rape and a murder though so dont do it.
If I was jaywalking and a cop stopped me, arrested me and put me in jail for 30 days(wow what an anology!), and then told me I deserve it for breaking the law, i'd sure have some complaints.

Stop using the "lel pussi kids u wuld nevr say nagr in compton wow such babies" argument, we're playing a niche, barely-populated medieval roleplaying game.

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 22, 2017, 08:04:49 pm
Im so lucky fortunate, to have experienced the 90's, would have loved to live through even earlier times. We were safer then, with an amount of freedom, the newer generations couldnt even fathom.
Most of you live in America, but its clear most of you do not live by American ideals, it shouldnt be a Canadian reminding you "Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither"

I truly miss the 90's, especially the music.

"Rape meeee,
Rape meeee, My friend
Rape meeee,
Rape meeee, Again
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
Hate meeee, Do it n do it again
Waste meeee,
Rape meeee
My Friend
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
NAHAHOHOOO
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME! RAPE ME!"


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Edgy af
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 08:06:11 pm
If I was jaywalking and a cop stopped me, arrested me and put me in jail for 30 days(wow what an anology!), and then told me I deserve it for breaking the law, i'd sure have some complaints.

Stop using the "lel pussi kids u wuld nevr say nagr in compton wow such babies" argument, we're playing a niche, barely-populated medieval roleplaying game.
apparently you must be 12 because you cant even read what I said in plain english back w/o making it l33t sp33k.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 22, 2017, 08:17:47 pm
That was me Alligator and I do it all the time. Usually when I tell people to shape up they do. If they don't I follow the mute, mute again (cause they dodge it lol) then a 15 minute time out. If, after those 15 minutes you come back and are still not following the rules, I'll ban for longer. So far, no one has acted a fool after those first 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Westwood on July 22, 2017, 08:35:04 pm
Shouldn't liberal degenerate folk like (((admins))) be in favor of drug and deviant behavior decriminalization? If we're using real world examples now, as per Mr. Asheram.

What exactly is the difference between a pothead and a sperg?

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 08:50:51 pm
Shouldn't liberal degenerate folk like (((admins))) be in favor of drug and deviant behavior decriminalization? If we're using real world examples now, as per Mr. Asheram.

What exactly is the difference between a pothead and a sperg?

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Why should rules change or be different or not followed because you are on an anonymous format? And if that is a dig because I smoke marijuana I smoke to try to help my appetite because I have Hepatitis C. I work, dont smoke at work and pay my taxes is that ok with you?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Westwood on July 22, 2017, 09:12:36 pm
I don't know you dude I'm talking about criminal justice reform
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 22, 2017, 10:06:17 pm
Sry for some reason I thought that pothead comment was directed at me dont know why. Maybe its because you typed it after mentioning me in your post.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 23, 2017, 09:07:49 am
Sure its an extreme analogy but the point is the same. So when the cop writes you a ticket for jaywalking do you cry as much about it as this?
Also I would really like to see a video with these kids that like to run around spewing the N word going to a black neighborhood in Oakland spewing it there loud and public.
edit: that might lead to a rape and a murder though so dont do it.

a cops never wrote me a ticket 4 jaywalking and im a 14 year old kid who dyes my hair black and oils it back and jaywalks across from my school to the local diner EVERY day to drink coffee and call old men "pops" so clearly the analogy is still ridiculous
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on July 23, 2017, 11:33:35 pm
I just want to point out that I was banned for saying "white people are subhuman" and spamming "penis" in I chat and I'm not arguing for people to be able to say "friend"

Who banned you for saying stuff to I chat lmao. I always figured I chat was fair game and never cared what people said over
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 24, 2017, 02:39:06 am
Who banned you for saying stuff to I chat lmao. I always figured I chat was fair game and never cared what people said over

The shit I've seen and ignored in i-chat lol! I should start ss'ing it because sometimes it's a good laugh.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 24, 2017, 04:09:24 am
Who banned you for saying stuff to I chat lmao. I always figured I chat was fair game and never cared what people said over

tagora banned him, spamming of the word penis in i-chat is very hurtful
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 24, 2017, 10:28:31 am
Fuck, I don't have power for a day and this happens. I just like the game Wolfenstein 3D and wanted to have a full STR named MechaHitler


"No offensive character names. If in doubt about a name, pick another one." If Hitler offends you, you either are shouldn't be on the Internet or you watch too many PBS documentaries. Using the name Hitvisitors can't see pics , please register or login
ler is NOT; that's right you read that correctly, is not against the rules. What's wrong is this mentality:  if all names that someone drew offense to EVERY name would be gone. The internet doesn't work that way, use your damn brain.

Also missed Plumbo

I didn't read any of the shit on the last 4 pages I just wanted to get admin abuse talked about more seriously. 
Also horns you never answered my reply about not knowing what a win-win was and your name change was not clever, it would've been had you added in element of Wolfenstein instead of abusing the powers you shouldn't have a hold of.
Only good admins are trist, tranquil(the way he uses the power), and James.. Hmm.. what else, Thryn; and I hate to say it, Assington, are usually right despite the latter being severely autistic in his methods.
Devs like horns shouldn't have admin powers despite it being required like Jona said, Sparvico should read up on history if he wants to ban me for "griefing" and I could've just started with a name of a tyrant whose kill count was much higher and his rule much worse, rules should be rewritten (again), Heskeycuck should fuck off, I've played since 2011 and haven't ever seen him till Okam popped up.

Can admins just stop shilling crpg to get free shekels?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 24, 2017, 11:09:14 am
I love that boob sloth,  seadle <3

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 24, 2017, 11:11:15 am
I love that boob sloth,  seadle <3
Thanks
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Oberyn on July 24, 2017, 12:04:46 pm
Boob sloth is my spirit animal.

If you've been playing since 2011 you should know by now that the H word is verbotten by cRPG commisars, and you will be sent to the virtual work camps if you attempt to "fight back" against rightful authority. Your dream of roleplaying as Wolfenstein Mechaeinstein must sadly take place in less restrictive games. Heskey is right, sorry. Like you point out you have a wealth of other megalomaniacal psychos throughout history to emulate, don't be so sad.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 24, 2017, 02:12:26 pm

Only good admins are trist, tranquil(the way he uses the power), and James..


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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 02:19:50 pm
Only good admins are trist, tranquil(the way he uses the power), and James..

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 24, 2017, 08:46:55 pm
Boob sloth is my spirit animal.

If you've been playing since 2011 you should know by now that the H word is verbotten by cRPG commisars, and you will be sent to the virtual work camps if you attempt to "fight back" against rightful authority. Your dream of roleplaying as Wolfenstein Mechaeinstein must sadly take place in less restrictive games. Heskey is right, sorry. Like you point out you have a wealth of other megalomaniacal psychos throughout history to emulate, don't be so sad.

Never have had problems with Hitler before on c-RPG. I have to be sad though because there is Vladenstein so Russians felt off the table for me. As with other Easterners and Africans.

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Forgot you were an admin tbh

Me and the Sloths go way back,

You new?

See previous post
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gristle on July 24, 2017, 09:15:44 pm
You are all trolls and can't handle when somebody else does it to you even the slightest bit. Man up or get out of fuck town.

I'm not a troll, and I think it's bullshit that an admin would use their power to troll the community. You're not just supposed to enforce the rules. You're supposed to serve as a shining example of them. Changing the name of a repeat offender is one thing, but doing anything else to his characters is too far. I can't trust you as an admin. I don't know what you'll do to my account just for making this post. You are now completely unpredictable in my eyes. That's what happens when admins become trolls.

All of the admins in this thread are clearly not aware of what their actions say to the rest of the community. The person who broke the rules doesn't matter to me. I care about how you choose to punish them. Posting joke gifs while people raise legitimate concerns doesn't look too good either.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 09:20:15 pm
Crying about how you should be able to spam the n word in cRPG is not a legitimate concern
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 24, 2017, 09:24:02 pm
Crying about how you should be able to spam the n word in cRPG is not a legitimate concern

AFAIK nobody in this thread is making that argument.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 09:29:32 pm
Oh I must have confused this thread crying about admins with another. My mistake.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gristle on July 24, 2017, 09:35:11 pm
Oh I must have confused this thread crying about admins with another. My mistake.

Maybe admins should follow some level of conduct and not try to out-troll the trolls. That's what Horns did. That's what this thread is about. It looks bad. I haven't broken any rules, and I'm telling you it looks bad. Stop joking and take step back to comprehend what this issue means to someone like me. I don't want to deal with power crazy admins anymore. That was the old gang. You guys have a chance to be better.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 24, 2017, 09:46:15 pm
I'm not a troll, and I think it's bullshit that an admin would use their power to troll the community. You're not just supposed to enforce the rules. You're supposed to serve as a shining example of them. Changing the name of a repeat offender is one thing, but doing anything else to his characters is too far. I can't trust you as an admin. I don't know what you'll do to my account just for making this post. You are now completely unpredictable in my eyes. That's what happens when admins become trolls.

All of the admins in this thread are clearly not aware of what their actions say to the rest of the community. The person who broke the rules doesn't matter to me. I care about how you choose to punish them. Posting joke gifs while people raise legitimate concerns doesn't look too good either.

Repeat offender, psh, never been punished by an admin before, Gristle, my record was clean. :^)

Crying about how you should be able to spam the n word in cRPG is not a legitimate concern

No one cares if they can spam friend in chat, I am 95% sure that now it's in spite of dumb rules. But thread isn't about being able to say that, it's about obvious and blatant abuse of power someone shouldn't have and how admins should use their power is where it is transitioning.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 09:50:27 pm
Horns changed your name because you were an infamous genocidal austrian ? Is that the gist of it?

Someone give me the coles notes here I must be missing something. This is literally textbook adminship based on Donkey Crew precedent.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Westwood on July 24, 2017, 09:56:52 pm
Horns changed your name because you were einstein? Is that the gist of it?

Someone give me the coles notes
Allow me to summarize

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 09:58:01 pm
Allow me to summarize

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Very helpful I now understand the situation completely
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 24, 2017, 11:16:50 pm
Horns abused his power by changing your name, after you had already done so, then changing your character off STF because you were a Wolfenstein 3D boss? Is that the gist of it?

Someone give me the coles notes here I must be missing something. This is literally textbook adminship based on Donkey Crew precedent.

Fixed your post

I only turned it into being a dictator thing because thats the reason for the ban, which is laughable. You can't tell me with a straight face that if I had been any other person who committed genocide/tyrant I would've been banned. What if I was Mussolini, Mao, or any other? I've would've gotten to play with that name for as long as I desired. But, it's okay to be Stalin? Someone who killed like 4 fold of what Hitler had?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 24, 2017, 11:32:19 pm
I'm not sure if you are aware but cRPG Admins/Devs have been changing peoples names when they are inappropriate for a long time
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 24, 2017, 11:39:36 pm
I'm not a troll, and I think it's bullshit that an admin would use their power to troll the community. You're not just supposed to enforce the rules. You're supposed to serve as a shining example of them. Changing the name of a repeat offender is one thing, but doing anything else to his characters is too far. I can't trust you as an admin. I don't know what you'll do to my account just for making this post. You are now completely unpredictable in my eyes. That's what happens when admins become trolls.

All of the admins in this thread are clearly not aware of what their actions say to the rest of the community. The person who broke the rules doesn't matter to me. I care about how you choose to punish them. Posting joke gifs while people raise legitimate concerns doesn't look too good either.

You're talking as if we're part of some massive community full of retards or something.


Oh wait.




All jokes aside, your logic is stupid, C-RPG is completely different to something like for instance the PW module, C-RPG is pretty much a tight knit community and there aren't really many people that everyone doesn't already know aside from a few new faces. PW was/is (not played in ages so idk) a massive community of hundreds of different people each logging in/out every day, there are some that are on every day and are regulars but they're not small and not tight knit. You have to administrate completely differently in these types of servers. In a tight knit server where everyone knows everyone and also knows the rules, you can be a bit more lax with your administration as well as be a bit more creative in your responses to rule breaks. In larger servers you have to follow a sort of code, to show an example to other players who are new as well as old because every day there are millions of different things you could be dealing with, as opposed to C-RPG it's pretty clean cut as you have a load of autistic retards who break the rules and get punished and you have serious guys who don't fuck around at all. There isn't really any new players so there isn't that question mark factor in the game like you have in PW or another large community.

I think Horns changing the guys name to something funny rather than just banning the dude for having his name changed is a much nicer response lol, if I could set my name to "killalltheblacks" and then have my name changed to "iloveafricanamericans" or something else stupid like that it'd be funny lol. Not sure why people who are breaking the rules are crying when they get punished for it, man the fuck up you dumbasses, I piss around and get banned for it but at least I sit down and take my DESERVED ban like a man. You all need to stop acting like entitled cucklords who think they own the planet, C-RPG doesn't belong to you and you don't dictate the rules, whoever runs the game creates the rules and decides the direction of the game, follow them or break them, but don't be a cunt and cry when you get punished for breaking those rules.


fuck me that was far too serious a post for my liking, im going back to my autistic hovel to scream at people who pass by.

also, disclaimer: i actually think we should be able to say whatever the fuck we want and couldn't give a shit if someone is racist or not, but the rules prohibit it, so either follow them or deal with the consequences.

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: StonedSteel on July 25, 2017, 12:27:07 am
Edgy af

Im glad it was you gravoth.
because I was clearly out to prove a point
I posted it purposely to get a rise out of you/others.

except...the others...they just ignored it m8. makes you think.
1. it shouldn't get a rise out of anyone, people have ALWAYS chosen to be offended or not, these days people go out of their way to be a victim. if you get offended by someone, that's YOUR choice.
2. in the past, if someone wanted to be the village idiot, you let them, they weren't even given a platform they were just ignored. you can have all the free speech you want, but if you are being ridiculous...why take you seriously? nowadays nobody ignores nothing, we give complete idiots a platform under the notion that all are to be respected, regardless of how much they have or haven't earned it. and even worse, if they haven't earned respect... we still take them seriously?!?! fuck that, you keep your millennial reindeer gaymes to yourself ffs.

no goddamn millennial should be an admin, clearly they're fucking crazy, and obviously cant be trusted with any amount of power.

if people cant ignore the names/chat other people use, THAT IS ON THEM.
you fucking tools are here to enforce RULES, not behaviour, everyone that's posted about this being nothing more than a massive power abuse...is spot on right. lol, ya, be a troll, that will show those trolls! you have a mute bitch! use the shit. if they bypass/start spamming non stop, that's when its acceptable for you to act. don't be going around giving my char some title that only half fits me (yes, I bitch, no, I do not, play. had my fill of you fucks tbh.)

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 25, 2017, 12:29:39 am
I'm not sure if you are aware but cRPG Admins/Devs have been changing peoples names when they are inappropriate for a long time

I'm well aware and support it, but an dev taking action on something that has already been resolved and then taking the process a step further by altering more than the name.


I think Horns changing the guys name to something funny rather than just banning the dude for having his name changed is a much nicer response lol, if I could set my name to "killalltheblacks" and then have my name changed to "iloveafricanamericans" or something else stupid like that it'd be funny lol. Not sure why people who are breaking the rules are crying when they get punished for it, man the fuck up you dumbasses, I piss around and get banned for it but at least I sit down and take my DESERVED ban like a man. You all need to stop acting like entitled cucklords who think they own the planet, C-RPG doesn't belong to you and you don't dictate the rules, whoever runs the game creates the rules and decides the direction of the game, follow them or break them, but don't be a cunt and cry when you get punished for breaking those rules.


I see you haven't read any of the thread either, I'll help out how this thread was started and what it originally was about. Banned for having the name MechaHitler and changed the name, then the name was changed AGAIN and character was altered, by a pseudoadmin who had nothing to do with the incident, you telling me to "man the fuck up" after an obvious abuse of power was brought to light doesn't help your cause of what you are trying to get across.

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: RD_Professor on July 25, 2017, 12:49:07 am
no goddamn millennial should be an admin, clearly they're fucking crazy, and obviously cant be trusted with any amount of power.
Yeah, those dastardly millennials can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 25, 2017, 12:52:45 am
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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Kadeth on July 25, 2017, 12:59:47 am
to all my fellow trollers out there, if you don't wanna get banned it's simple, just become an admin like me ! you don't even need a lemon'd account
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 25, 2017, 01:02:59 am
to all my fellow trollers out there, if you don't wanna get banned it's simple, just become an admin like me ! you don't even need a lemon'd account

Admins hate him, just follow his simple tips
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 25, 2017, 01:19:57 am
I'm well aware and support it, but an dev taking action on something that has already been resolved and then taking the process a step further by altering more than the name.

I see you haven't read any of the thread either, I'll help out how this thread was started and what it originally was about. Banned for having the name MechaHitler and changed the name, then the name was changed AGAIN and character was altered, by a pseudoadmin who had nothing to do with the incident, you telling me to "man the fuck up" after an obvious abuse of power was brought to light doesn't help your cause of what you are trying to get across.

Blaming me for your lack of the mental capacity to write out what really happened in your own thread is rather idiotic of you. You're the creator of the thread and the one who should be writing in detail what your problem is, don't blame me for your lack of ability to explain something properly.

Moving on from your own idiocy...


If it's the case that Horns just changed your name AFTER you had already made the change from Mechah1tler or whatever the fuck it was then yeah, I'll agree with you, that's a dick move and unnecessary as the name had already been changed. Either way though, we're complaining at a rate that makes it sound like Horns did something terrible like ban 50 people for no reason when in reality all he did was change a fucking name and move you off of STF which you could easily within a couple of seconds change back to. Like, really? THIS is what we've chosen to cry about? It's a bit pathetic if you ask me.

Was this technically abuse of a power given to Horns? Yep

Was this REALLY harmful at all? Lol, not even slightly.


Come back and complain when you have something substantial to cry about, I'll happily then stand behind you and cry with you but until then your case is retarded.

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Hlin on July 25, 2017, 01:30:26 am
I think Horns changing the guys name to something funny rather than just banning the dude for having his name changed is a much nicer response lol

Seadle was banned without warning or prior solicitations of wrongful character name activity. He was issued an ultimatum to change the name or remain banned.

if I could set my name to "killalltheblacks" and then have my name changed to "iloveafricanamericans"

Hardly - On the NA server(s) we have multiple people with more offensive names that are allowed by the Badmins (Niggardly_XXXXX, XXXXNagger, etc).
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Or, the players that spam the word "friend" on a daily basis without any consequences (even with moderators actively playing).

This seems to have to do more with favoritism than actually enforcing cRPG's rules.

[...] man the fuck up you dumbasses, I piss around and get banned for it but at least I sit down and take my DESERVED ban like a man.

That's right, man up! Just take it in the butt, no need to resist.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 25, 2017, 01:39:30 am
Blaming me for your lack of the mental capacity to write out what really happened in your own thread is rather idiotic of you. You're the creator of the thread and the one who should be writing in detail what your problem is, don't blame me for your lack of ability to explain something properly.

Moving on from your own idiocy...


If it's the case that Horns just changed your name AFTER you had already made the change from Mechah1tler or whatever the fuck it was then yeah, I'll agree with you, that's a dick move and unnecessary as the name had already been changed. Either way though, we're complaining at a rate that makes it sound like Horns did something terrible like ban 50 people for no reason when in reality all he did was change a fucking name and move you off of STF which you could easily within a couple of seconds change back to. Like, really? THIS is what we've chosen to cry about? It's a bit pathetic if you ask me.

Was this technically abuse of a power given to Horns? Yep

Was this REALLY harmful at all? Lol, not even slightly.

He did do something terrible, he abused the power he was given for his own laughs.
The thread was about the abuse of the power. If you had read the thread you can already read what happened.

What exactly is pathetic about bringing up something that needed to be addressed? This is very harmful as it shows just how much the players don't trust the administrative abilities of some people and brings to light how the admins are going to do whatever the fuck they please when they please, I had no problem doing what needed to be done to be unbanned by Sparvico, this however crossed the line. In two separate senses that a pseudoadmin involved himself in a situation that was taken care of and then using his powers for his own laughs.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 25, 2017, 03:20:15 am
He did do something terrible, he abused the power he was given for his own laughs.
The thread was about the abuse of the power. If you had read the thread you can already read what happened.

What exactly is pathetic about bringing up something that needed to be addressed? This is very harmful as it shows just how much the players don't trust the administrative abilities of some people and brings to light how the admins are going to do whatever the fuck they please when they please, I had no problem doing what needed to be done to be unbanned by Sparvico, this however crossed the line. In two separate senses that a pseudoadmin involved himself in a situation that was taken care of and then using his powers for his own laughs.

My point isn't about whether he abused his power or not my point is HOW he abused his power, which is basically not at all, because all he did was change a name tag lol. Horns shouldn't have interfered in another Admins dealings yes, but honestly why do you give so much of a shit about the fact that you had your name changed on C-RPG, do you not have the 1000 gold to change it back? If you're that poor I'll happily give you 100k to get you back on your feet lol.

Guarantee you back in the day if chadz changed somebodies offensive name nobody would give two shits and they'd move on. The thing I find pathetic is how offended you seem to be over something so fucking stupid as this, it's like crying over the fact someone poked you, it's completely over the top and pointless, I'll make sure to make a thread next time Horns makes a special group to stop me spamming shit on Discord as it's clearly abuse of power and I'll get loads of support even though I was the one who caused the issue in the first place.

Seadle was banned without warning or prior solicitations of wrongful character name activity. He was issued an ultimatum to change the name or remain banned.

Hardly - On the NA server(s) we have multiple people with more offensive names that are allowed by the Badmins (Niggardly_XXXXX, XXXXNagger, etc).
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Or, the players that spam the word "friend" on a daily basis without any consequences (even with moderators actively playing).

This seems to have to do more with favoritism than actually enforcing cRPG's rules.

That's right, man up! Just take it in the butt, no need to resist.
It's been made very clear right from the start that racist behaviour isn't tolerated in C-RPG, if he doesn't bother adhering to that then that's his own fault. I see no problem with the ultimatum, change the name from something racist to something not racist and voila, problem solved.

In regards to the whole use of racial slurs towards black people, that's a whole other matter, I was using that name as an example for something else, not for whether X name would get X punishment.

I will give you that, and I fully agree with you on the whole favouritism side of things, we have a rule and it should be enforced on everyone, not a select few.
(Made some large font post about it here: http://forum.melee.org/the-chamber-of-tears/message-2-a-certain-somebody-thats-middle-aged-and-bald/90/)

But, either way, the fact that favouritism may/may not be prevalent in some of the admins is regardless, the issue lies in those that aren't being punished, not the other way around. If we stop punishing everyone on the basis that an admin shows favouritism to player X then what's the point in having rules to begin with? Ban those that are breaking the rules and aren't being punished, don't stop banning players for breaking the rules that aren't being universally enforced, I think we can all agree on that premise, no?


Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Hlin on July 25, 2017, 03:45:55 am
It's been made very clear right from the start that racist behaviour isn't tolerated in C-RPG
Because the name MechaHi┼ler ... is racist?

Might as well ban everyones last name.  :rolleyes:

Anyway, thats my two cents on the topic. See you all in-game.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 25, 2017, 03:47:06 am
Yeah you can't be adolph
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 25, 2017, 05:48:29 am
Yeah you can't be adolph

What about Adolf?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on July 25, 2017, 06:41:36 am
to all my fellow trollers out there, if you don't wanna get banned it's simple, just become an admin like me ! you don't even need a lemon'd account
We always need an Aussie or Kiwi on the team. Used to be HappyPhantom now it's you
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Nightingale on July 25, 2017, 08:13:22 am
can we all just stop for a moment and cherish another one of plumbo's posts. Every time this guy says something I just can't help myself but read it a couple of times and wish I could +1 whatever the fuck he said at least twice. "the it has spoken" lmao
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 25, 2017, 09:25:14 am
gib link cant find
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Nightingale on July 25, 2017, 09:34:00 am
gib link cant find

Im glad it was you gravoth.
because I was clearly out to prove a point
I posted it purposely to get a rise out of you/others.

except...the others...they just ignored it m8. makes you think.
1. it shouldn't get a rise out of anyone, people have ALWAYS chosen to be offended or not, these days people go out of their way to be a victim. if you get offended by someone, that's YOUR choice.
2. in the past, if someone wanted to be the village idiot, you let them, they weren't even given a platform they were just ignored. you can have all the free speech you want, but if you are being ridiculous...why take you seriously? nowadays nobody ignores nothing, we give complete idiots a platform under the notion that all are to be respected, regardless of how much they have or haven't earned it. and even worse, if they haven't earned respect... we still take them seriously?!?! fuck that, you keep your millennial reindeer gaymes to yourself ffs.

no goddamn millennial should be an admin, clearly they're fucking crazy, and obviously cant be trusted with any amount of power.

if people cant ignore the names/chat other people use, THAT IS ON THEM.
you fucking tools are here to enforce RULES, not behaviour, everyone that's posted about this being nothing more than a massive power abuse...is spot on right. lol, ya, be a troll, that will show those trolls! you have a mute bitch! use the shit. if they bypass/start spamming non stop, that's when its acceptable for you to act. don't be going around giving my char some title that only half fits me (yes, I bitch, no, I do not, play. had my fill of you fucks tbh.)

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Nightingale on July 25, 2017, 11:23:45 am
okay I'll kinda just toss my penny in here and state some things.

- first and foremost I am no longer a member of the admin team and definitely not speaking for them...

Seadle: I half agree with you on certain conditional things. However, the initial name itself is what put you in this situation. The fact remains had you not decided to skurt the gray areas of the rules; ones that aren't even so gray mind you. You could not have possibly been put in this position, where a dev toyed with certain aspects of your account. Drawing attention to yourself is where you went wrong; enough attention that a person with the abilities to do said things to your account took notice. I hope you see that you are indeed 100% at fault for putting yourself right here.

Now the tricky part; Yes Horns trolled you. He changed certain aspects of your account and that in my mind is totally unacceptable. I, like many others before me, practiced unorthodox punishments, none that threatened the integrity of anyone's account though. Horns shouldn't have changed your name manually, he shouldn't have removed the skip the fun status of the character either. That said none of this is without precedent... Other devs in the past have practiced said trolling to specific people in the past... people of more infamy than you certainly but times have changed. This doesn't make horns wrong and it definitely doesn't make him right either.

In all, I'm sitting about 60-70% in favor of Seadle that any messing with accounts by devs should be blocked unless otherwise NEEDED or REQUESTED.

The normal process of forcing name changes was not followed and I think that is where people like Gristle an old player is finding un-comfort with. I think many people are confused as to what happened here and why Seadle is saying it needs to be talked about. The main issue here is that Seadle's ban record is relatively clean if not clear and a dev with zero experience decided to alter minor aspects of the account which puts a spot light on the moral integrity of said dev... People begin to question whether or not they can trust this person and when people that don't break the rules begin to question the moral integrity of a community leader things can get messy.

I know I am not well liked to say the least but If anyone takes anything I say seriously anymore I would highly advise against minor alterations of people's accounts as that type of manual enforcement appears biased and can never lead to a solid good outcome.

Unadvisable really.

I'll go back to not being serious about anything now.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Torben on July 25, 2017, 11:48:55 am
Im glad it was you gravoth.
because I was clearly out to prove a point
I posted it purposely to get a rise out of you/others.

except...the others...they just ignored it m8. makes you think.
1. it shouldn't get a rise out of anyone, people have ALWAYS chosen to be offended or not, these days people go out of their way to be a victim. if you get offended by someone, that's YOUR choice.
2. in the past, if someone wanted to be the village idiot, you let them, they weren't even given a platform they were just ignored. you can have all the free speech you want, but if you are being ridiculous...why take you seriously? nowadays nobody ignores nothing, we give complete idiots a platform under the notion that all are to be respected, regardless of how much they have or haven't earned it. and even worse, if they haven't earned respect... we still take them seriously?!?! fuck that, you keep your millennial reindeer gaymes to yourself ffs.

no goddamn millennial should be an admin, clearly they're fucking crazy, and obviously cant be trusted with any amount of power.

if people cant ignore the names/chat other people use, THAT IS ON THEM.
you fucking tools are here to enforce RULES, not behaviour, everyone that's posted about this being nothing more than a massive power abuse...is spot on right. lol, ya, be a troll, that will show those trolls! you have a mute bitch! use the shit. if they bypass/start spamming non stop, that's when its acceptable for you to act. don't be going around giving my char some title that only half fits me (yes, I bitch, no, I do not, play. had my fill of you fucks tbh.)

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damn.  Ill just quote this again,  cause.  nice.

and ill quote boyz in the hood here.

"never respect anybody that doesnt respect you back."





Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 25, 2017, 01:24:27 pm
okay I'll kinda just toss my penny in here and state some things.

- first and foremost I am no longer a member of the admin team and definitely not speaking for them...

Seadle: I half agree with you on certain conditional things. However, the initial name itself is what put you in this situation. The fact remains had you not decided to skurt the gray areas of the rules; ones that aren't even so gray mind you.[/i] You could not have possibly been put in this position, where a dev toyed with certain aspects of your account.

they are pretty gray, tbh

this is all we have to go by for the naming rule:
"No offensive character names. If in doubt about a name, pick another one." -cmp

now i know we aren't total children and idiots and should be able to establish what kind of a name is offensive or not, and i see the admins' view on this. However, this being a point in my "spooky ghost" argument, it's not very black and white as to how the admins decide if a name's offensive. for all intents and purpose, based off the actions of these last couple weeks, an admin can dictate whatever player's name they like as being offensive if they can come up with some sort of step-by-step, follow the breadcrumbs trail, linking that name to something offensive (i.e. because ghosts are traditionally white, and ghosts are often physically personified in films by actors wearing white bedsheets, and white bedsheets were also used to make the shitty robes of the ku klux klan, therefore the name "spookyghost" alludes to racism and lynching, however as long as you have a name with ghost in it but DO NOT wear white armor, you are good. only a little autistic).

maybe the admins should draw the distinct line and give specific examples of what constitutes offensiveness. perhaps in the Name rules, it should be specifically noted that using h1tler in a name is bad, stalin is fine, spookyghost is bad, poltergeist if fine, friend is bad, honky is fine, chingchongbingbong is fine, dirtykrauteater is fine, so on so on.

i mean i just don't know how to say this more clearly: you can't just set the standard for what constitutes offensiveness, then just go about moving that standard around for whatever specific case you like (i mean u can, no one can check your power, we are just the playerbase right). i know this sounds really, really gay and retarded, but you should genuinely make a list of what is and isn't allowed, to the letter ( again, i.e., "no use of h1tler in names, no use of friend/chink/beaner/honkey in names, no roleplaying ghosts while combining torches w/ white armor w/ novgorod helm) or else you should stop calling us ret4rds when we don't get this complex, 1 sentence name-rule.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 25, 2017, 02:09:10 pm
When people think they should have special privileges to break the rules
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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Draeth on July 25, 2017, 05:56:00 pm
I just wanted to say thanks. This thread provided a much needed source of entertainment for a slow work day.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 25, 2017, 06:49:07 pm
Because the name MechaHi┼ler ... is racist?

Might as well ban everyones last name.  :rolleyes:

Anyway, thats my two cents on the topic. See you all in-game.
I said racist behaviour, calling yourself the name of someone who killed 6 million people because of who they were is racist behaviour, whether you intend it to be or not.
Like I said, I couldn't give two shits if you called yourself "black in spanishdestroyer27" but the rules are pretty clear on what is and is not acceptable in the game, if you want to call yourself MechaH1tler go ahead, but don't whine when the consequences come into play.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 25, 2017, 08:01:40 pm
Is the name InFidel Castro taken?
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 25, 2017, 08:57:48 pm
"never respect anybody that doesnt respect you back."

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 25, 2017, 11:42:06 pm
Since when was that abuse? As your entire argument hinges on that point.

Admins review all name changes before they approve them. That has always been the case. Part of this reason has been to prevent players from creating unacceptable names.

Now for a character you create brand new, admins do not get the same visibility. You don't have to wait for an admin's approval in order to start playing, so that's a good thing. But, as and when they become aware of a name that goes against the rules of cRPG, they reserve the right to change it. Since you were keen to point out you've been here since 2011, does any of this ring any bells? It's always been like this, that's always been within their remit, so in what sense is it suddenly now abuse?

I know for a fact in years gone by Panos has had his 'hilarious' names changed to equally 'hilarious' names by the admin or dev team.

If you're still determined to play dumb on the subject of 'Hitler' being banned, browse the forum for any Nazi or Hitler themed clans, their threads are typically locked and their authors muted. Or search the 'unban' section for people crying about being banned for having Nazi symbols on their banner, or for having names like yours in years gone by. Or, simply try typing the word 'Hitler' or 'Nazi' on this forum, even now you need to be creative to get around the filter.

cRPG has always treated these things separately, you really must be new as you're identifying that this 'Needs to be talked about' many years after a consensus was reached. Why should new devs be any different?

*from a quick lookup:
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/banned-for-offensive-name-name-changed-pls-unban/
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/ban-einstein_conqueror_of_paris/
Ah, of course I see it now! You must not be a fan of Wolfenstein either, see my previous posts about it not being the fact that the name had Hitler in, but the fact that I wanted to be the final boss of Wolfenstein 3D. I'll say it again, I could've started off with a worse tyrant had I wanted to troll, which I did not. I am a very big fan of Wolfenstein. Use some common sense and figure out that if you put 2 and 2 together it's not 6.

Side note: I've been much longer than you.

Is the name InFidel Castro taken?
Yes, FidelCastroIRL is taken by some archer.

At the end of the day an admin with no experience abused his power and I can't understand why that's bad. The alternative in every historical case I've seen where the character has Hitler in their name is to simply permanently ban the user and send them a PM telling them to change the name in order to be unbanned.



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Fixed your post.

Y-y-y.. You mean like what happened? I cannot believe that I'd have to do what the admin says to be unbanned. The admin that issued the ban unbanned me, someone outside of the incident used his power to further alter my account after action had already been taken/reversed.

When people think they should have special privileges to break the rules
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When people cannot beat Nocturnal Missions.

okay I'll kinda just toss my penny in here and state some things.

- first and foremost I am no longer a member of the admin team and definitely not speaking for them...

Seadle: I half agree with you on certain conditional things. However, the initial name itself is what put you in this situation. The fact remains had you not decided to skurt the gray areas of the rules; ones that aren't even so gray mind you. You could not have possibly been put in this position, where a dev toyed with certain aspects of your account. Drawing attention to yourself is where you went wrong; enough attention that a person with the abilities to do said things to your account took notice. I hope you see that you are indeed 100% at fault for putting yourself right here.

Now the tricky part; Yes Horns trolled you. He changed certain aspects of your account and that in my mind is totally unacceptable. I, like many others before me, practiced unorthodox punishments, none that threatened the integrity of anyone's account though. Horns shouldn't have changed your name manually, he shouldn't have removed the skip the fun status of the character either. That said none of this is without precedent... Other devs in the past have practiced said trolling to specific people in the past... people of more infamy than you certainly but times have changed. This doesn't make horns wrong and it definitely doesn't make him right either.

In all, I'm sitting about 60-70% in favor of Seadle that any messing with accounts by devs should be blocked unless otherwise NEEDED or REQUESTED.

The normal process of forcing name changes was not followed and I think that is where people like Gristle an old player is finding un-comfort with. I think many people are confused as to what happened here and why Seadle is saying it needs to be talked about. The main issue here is that Seadle's ban record is relatively clean if not clear and a dev with zero experience decided to alter minor aspects of the account which puts a spot light on the moral integrity of said dev... People begin to question whether or not they can trust this person and when people that don't break the rules begin to question the moral integrity of a community leader things can get messy.

I know I am not well liked to say the least but If anyone takes anything I say seriously anymore I would highly advise against minor alterations of people's accounts as that type of manual enforcement appears biased and can never lead to a solid good outcome.

Unadvisable really.

I'll go back to not being serious about anything now.

I love you, bb, don't worry what others say. You also make solid points, I understand completely that I placed myself in this situation, but I also got myself out by doing what Sparvico had said and changing my name, I've never had any issues with admins up until now, and if it is unclear on what I mean by "This needs to be talked about"; it's that the current admin team needs to be reviewed and thank you bringing up my SPOTLESS ban record. :^)
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Bronto on July 26, 2017, 12:58:32 am
Seadle at this point I know you didn't select your name knowing it would land you in trouble. Now you know. What was done was a bit extreme and we've talked about it. Go forth and play the game. The current admin team is trying to provide a healthy environment where anyone can have a good time playing on the servers. That said, I cannot reverse what has been done but we can ALL work on making better choices in the future.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 26, 2017, 05:57:36 am
gay words

i've never had issues with racism though, i have lots of black friends, never been banned for using the N word, never once condemned black people in chat, ive fucking TRASHED on stupid ass white people tho
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 26, 2017, 08:37:26 am
Seadle at this point I know you didn't select your name knowing it would land you in trouble.
SOMEONE FINALLY SEES IT!

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Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: the real god emperor on July 26, 2017, 08:57:58 am
Admins review all name changes before they approve them.

"Review"

More like accept all requests from the Chinese and deny everything from Krems for me

Also admin trolling is beneficial to the community sometimes, remember Yuhmaz, I changed his forum name to orospu cocugu for quite a long time and he gtfo from the forums -there wasn't anyone to perm ban his ass from forums, people were away or still busy with Okam-
Do I regret it? Would do it 10 more times if same happened.
(there is context of it that he tried to bait me into it to cost my admin rights)
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Jona on July 26, 2017, 04:48:35 pm
Now that this has seemingly blown over, can we focus our attention on the tragedy of Havelle's banning? K thnx.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 26, 2017, 05:27:33 pm
Thanks Jona, but it appears I'm no longer welcome here. I've decided to move to LA, start a new life, maybe start a family.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Havelle on July 26, 2017, 05:32:19 pm
You guys don't need me anymore, just promise me that you'll keep the values I taught you alive: the values of friendship and racism

Take care of yourselves
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: StonedSteel on July 26, 2017, 07:00:35 pm
Now that we've semi reached a consensus on how to behave with words, perhaps you cunts can focus on more/actual important things.
Like...actions! you know, things that actually fucking matter. Particularly with how you assholes treat new players.

I doubt new players are severely turned off crpg by people dropping nbombs using chars named "Leopold_Did_Nothing_Wrong"
You know what really puts them off? cunts. most of you...most of us, are complete cunts, especially me. The type of cunt to brocode and hunt noobs to pad his meaningless kd. Never again.

 You want new players, we need a new mentality, one that doesn't include bullying/brocoding or the other awful shit you autists take pride in. Its totally fine that we all hate and talk shit to each other, as a clan hopper I know you actually don't hate each other, its just entertainment. but the way you fucks treat new players, is a testament to the toxicity rampant in crpg. Currently mechanics keep old players away, but its old players that keep the new ones from staying.

We have to change, im not saying we all gotta become Yuang overnight, but the brocoding/hunting of noobs
I remember what it was like being new, I remember some of the POS players I now call friends. We have to change

It can be done, and it will be, appreciated by whatever new players we get. Very few of you fucks left playing are decent people towards those you know, even fewer are kind/helpful to new players. You want new players to stay? they need a home, they wont survive the bullshit we put them through on NA 1. DTV needs to come back, and cunts like me...need to fucking leave.

Or change.

Zahavok

17/04/2016 11:00:55 PM

to Knight_Of_The_Grey_Order

I just wanted to thank you for being one of the 10 most positive players in cRPG, Everyone else is either an Ass or a bully in some form.

cRPG isnt Newbie friendly in ANY way,

1: The admins Don't Care, They let everyone do say and act pretty much however they want, which is okay, but when a community has gotten to a point were it is Elitist, and very aggressive towards bad or new players it kills its self. I've seen it happen with my own servers.

2: The players are almost ALL assholes in some way, and tend to gang up on New players... you're one of the few who don't Kick us while we're down and are supportive.

Lastly, due tot he learning curve of M&B and cRPG together, new players have almost no hope, the moment they even do anything Excited the players or the game kicks them in the balls and sends them back down, every time someone gets Good at something... they are corrected and knocked back down to nothing so new players Don't WANT to join- its not Fun! Nobody finds it fun to CONSTANTLY die over and over and over relentlessly and with no hope of success.

I just felt if people actually opened their eyes and saw this, cRPG might improve a bit, but it starts with great guys like you, so, again Thanks for making my attempts to play cRPG worth while.

ReplyReply to all Forward


If a cunt like me can learn to be decent, wtf kinda excuse do the rest of you have?



Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: bensai on July 26, 2017, 07:20:36 pm
words

i agree dude, but i think you're wrong in saying most people treat noobs badly. lately the few new players that have been sighted on NA_1 have been given very special (not autistic) treatment. all their questions are answered and more, and we try 2 keep tincans from slaughtering them

 ive made several posts across the steam community hub for warband inviting people to play crpg and add me or james on steam to come check it out. a couple of them have messaged me and said they installed the mod and were simply discouraged to see the small playerbase

if any action needs 2 be taken to revive crpg, it's just to play the mod for an hour or so each night to keep a player pop circulating

Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 26, 2017, 07:55:23 pm
the only way you can make crpg noob friendly is by disabling block, like seriously

these new players start with 3 looms and level 25 and have 3x xp to level to 35, and get free respecs weekly if they mess up builds, along with unlimited STFs. this game has had a major shift towards helping new players, and shit hasn't changed. it's the fact that when they join a 40 player server, there are 39 other players who can straight kick their ass and they won't land a single hit. it gets pretty frustrating and i don't think they have that "im going to try to get better drive."

i think the only thing left is to put a link on the main website that goes to forum builds sticky
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: njames89 on July 26, 2017, 08:01:44 pm
Some of them are sticking around and toughing it out though. Definitely seeing a fair amount of new names.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 26, 2017, 09:43:33 pm
become Yuang

these are the only important words in your paragraph.



i fully agree
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 26, 2017, 10:45:23 pm
The issue isn't anything to do with C-RPG players or community tbh, it's down to the fact that most players outside of C-RPG aren't good at the game, they then hop into a game full of some really god damned good players and get ruined by them. It's either a case they'll stay to learn or rage and leave.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 26, 2017, 11:56:15 pm
#FreeHavelle
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 27, 2017, 12:44:25 am
free
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Yeldur on July 27, 2017, 01:19:17 am
Who is Havelle and why was he banned? I'm a poor United Caliphate Kingdom cuck in need of enlightenment
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Seadle on July 27, 2017, 01:40:24 am
Who is Havelle and why was he banned? I'm a poor United Caliphate Kingdom cuck in need of enlightenment

He's the reason we are all here. Havelle is like an angel that chose to live with mankind instead of in Heaven. He is the father and mother of SpookIsland and brother of Farmer Nate. He is Havelle. He's banned because the admins knew that he was the second coming of Jesus and wanted to stop the prophecy.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Asheram on July 27, 2017, 02:30:13 am
nvm
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Gnjus on July 27, 2017, 09:56:55 am
like it's fucking Muhammed or something.

They will probably look for me, find me and kill me with their particular set of skills for just quoting this.....now imagine what they'll do to you.
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Xant on July 27, 2017, 01:09:12 pm
cRPG with shitty admins? I'm shocked!
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Simon. on July 27, 2017, 09:34:53 pm
it's not the mod it's the nature of warband it has a very high skill cap and even on the great na duel server on native there are new people who join and ofc quit because they don't know how to play the game there are very few who are willing to try and actively get better

if you want people who will stick around you need to try to get people from other mods and who know how to play like native or smthn
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Thryn on July 27, 2017, 10:43:17 pm
it's not the mod it's the nature of warband it has a very high skill cap and even on the great na duel server on native there are new people who join and ofc quit because they don't know how to play the game there are very few who are willing to try and actively get better

if you want people who will stick around you need to try to get people from other mods and who know how to play like native or smthn

hey kid i see ur new 2 gaem, if ur lookin 4 mlee lessuns hmu bby <3
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Simon. on July 27, 2017, 10:45:54 pm
i are best na i kill every
Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: Kadeth on July 28, 2017, 01:17:07 am
adman ranking:

>kadeth

>the rest

now delet thread


Title: Re: Needs to be talked about
Post by: SugarHoe on July 29, 2017, 03:40:48 pm
Sure its an extreme analogy but the point is the same. So when the cop writes you a ticket for jaywalking do you cry as much about it as this?
Also I would really like to see a video with these kids that like to run around spewing the N word going to a black neighborhood in Oakland spewing it there loud and public.
edit: that might lead to a rape and a murder though so dont do it.
i spew friend in my black community all the time
called not being a bitch and doing whatever u want until u have to face consequences then make a scene just like how everyone should play crpg