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cRPG => Announcements => Topic started by: Dupre on February 15, 2016, 09:04:14 am

Title: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Dupre on February 15, 2016, 09:04:14 am
Dupre/Rico/Matt2507: New items/item fixes
Dupre: added maps to siege server rotation NA/EU -
-warkworth_castle
-himmelsberg_monastery
-inch_tuth   
-Heisenberg
-holmet_castle
-greipenfurt_castle
-sea_raid
-castle_30_exterior_c
-the_lighthouse
-hrafninn_castle





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| [0] Dane Axe                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 8964                          |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Master Hospitaller Horse                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28774                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Elegant Bronze Long Bow                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 14400                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Dane Axe                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 12576                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Viking Round Shield                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 6935                          |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
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| [0] Saracen Horse                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28774                         |
| maneuver                                           | 34                             | 38                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Master Templar Horse                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28774                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Master Knight Horse                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28774                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 28                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Elegant Bronze Long Bow                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 18720                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
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| [1] Thick Viking Round Shield                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 9362                          |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Long Dane Axe                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 15091                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Dane Axe                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 10757                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Master Hospitaller Horse             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 43161                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 29                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Saracen Horse                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 43161                         |
| maneuver                                           | 35                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 29                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Master Knight Horse                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 43161                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 29                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Well Bred Master Templar Horse                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 43161                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 36                             | 29                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Long Dane Axe                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 18864                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Viking Round Shield                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 11096                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Master Knight Horse                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 51793                         |
| body armor                                         | 43                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 30                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Master Hospitaller Horse              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 51793                         |
| body armor                                         | 43                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 30                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Master Templar Horse                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 51793                         |
| body armor                                         | 43                             | 39                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 30                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Dane Axe                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 13446                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Elegant Bronze Long Bow                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 23040                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Spirited Saracen Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 51793                         |
| maneuver                                           | 36                             | 40                            |
| charge                                             | 37                             | 30                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Master Templar Horse                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 69058                         |
| body armor                                         | 45                             | 41                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 32                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Master Knight Horse                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 69058                         |
| body armor                                         | 45                             | 41                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 32                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Master Hospitaller Horse              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 69058                         |
| body armor                                         | 45                             | 41                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 32                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Champion Saracen Horse                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 69058                         |
| maneuver                                           | 36                             | 40                            |
| charge                                             | 39                             | 32                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Dane Axe                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 17928                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterpiece Viking Round Shield                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 13870                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Long Dane Axe                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 25152                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Elegant Bronze Long Bow             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28800                         |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Arthur_ on February 15, 2016, 09:19:56 am
First. Can there be a loom sale or item exchange soon please? Need looms to loom this shit
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Painmace on February 15, 2016, 11:17:04 am
First. Can there be a loom sale or item exchange soon please? Need looms to loom this shit
What about actually playing the game and retiering
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 11:39:50 am
Wait.... there was something like that?
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Panos_ on February 15, 2016, 12:20:06 pm
Still no 0 slot, 0 shield skill heraldic shield :(
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 12:36:28 pm
that new horses are stat garbage

Master Templar Horse
hit points: 138
body armor: 37
difficulty: 7
speed: 40
maneuver: 34
charge: 28

Mule
hit points: 115
body armor: 8
difficulty: 0
speed: 36
maneuver: 38
charge: 10

Plated Donkey
hit points: 115
body armor: 20
difficulty: 0
speed: 28
maneuver: 35
charge: 15


The most important stat is just so bad that it is just one big mystery for me
and on the top of that 7 riding skill requirement?

I have no comment on that
armor is not that great, speed is meh at best that horses are just bad.



Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Vovka on February 15, 2016, 01:12:38 pm
pew pew pew patch
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 01:17:17 pm
new axes stats seams also out of place with that stats

I wonder if there is any argumentation behind that.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Finse on February 15, 2016, 01:28:53 pm
Finally a new bow to kill non shielded suckers With  :twisted::twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 01:39:22 pm
new horses
i have to admit that models are really nice.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Butan on February 15, 2016, 02:08:58 pm
Thanks for the work you did those last weeks, the updates are really coming out fast! I am impressed.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 15, 2016, 02:37:01 pm
Dank long axe is just simply better than all polearms, needs some adjustments on the stats. Also they need some color adjustments, too bright as of now. New shield looks fucking great, love it.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Danetti on February 15, 2016, 02:37:23 pm
| [0] Master Templar Horse                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 0                              | 28774                         |
| body armor                                         | 41                             | 37                            |
| charge                                             | 35                             | 28                            |
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Another (http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-4-3-4/) Templol update...
Why does this not surprise me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

BTW

Give Elite Scimitar 35 cut again... (How could you nerf this weapon like that :cry:)
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: McKli_PL on February 15, 2016, 03:14:22 pm
wow new bow :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: gieb flashsale plox :P
@Danny yeah and remove -1cut on Long Bardiche,Arabian Axe,GreatLongAxe like it supposed to be (2h versions of those weaps are untouched! )
got a serious question it is possible that if some1 is looming new weapon and this weapon will be too Op and buahahalancers will nerf this weapon to the ground, he will get back 3 looms from this new weapon?
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: bagge on February 15, 2016, 03:18:26 pm
Nice to see a new bow, havnt had a new one for ages. Looking forward to try it, lucky I have 3 LP's available :twisted:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Jona on February 15, 2016, 03:18:32 pm
Dank long axe is just simply better than all polearms, needs some adjustments on the stats. Also they need some color adjustments, too bright as of now. New shield looks fucking great, love it.

Agreed, its stats make it quite potent. Yet another reason to never use the great long axe ever again as it grows ever worse (still no clue why it ever got nerfed in a semi-recent patch).
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Hellsing on February 15, 2016, 03:47:50 pm
Masterwork Elegant Bronze Long Bow
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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Pawiu on February 15, 2016, 03:52:26 pm
Agreed, its stats make it quite potent. Yet another reason to never use the great long axe ever again as it grows ever worse (still no clue why it ever got nerfed in a semi-recent patch).
who the fuck even made it
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Nordwolf on February 15, 2016, 03:57:52 pm
Long Dane Axe seems not properly sized, it should be like 20% smaller but with the same stats imo.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Panos_ on February 15, 2016, 04:05:48 pm
Yes please, we all know that only the 2h class is allowed to have overpowered weapons.

IMO, remove the dank axe, and give a major buff to the lolstabs.


Thanks
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 04:15:27 pm
Yes please, we all know that only the 2h class is allowed to have overpowered weapons.

IMO, remove the dank axe, and give a major buff to the lolstabs.


Thanks
Bec de Corbin

That axe is broke because there is no reason to use most of the other polearms.
2h version also have half assed stats,  but that is not that bad like with polearm version.

But all of that is nothing when you look on that new shielld

Viking Round Shield
weight: 8
body armor: 35
difficulty: 5
hit points: 375
speed rating: 81
shield width: 148 100 would be supergood but that is just overkill

Huscarl's Round Shield
weight: 8
body armor: 26
difficulty: 5
hit points: 400
speed rating: 80
shield width: 84
Can't use on horseback

Heavy Board Shield
weight: 9
body armor: 17
difficulty: 4
hit points: 600
speed rating: 80
shield height: 94
shield width: 60
Can't use on horseback

so that shield is  big as 2 Heavy Board Shield side by side

Horses suck, that stats on them are joke, I believe all that stars are just joke and someone will change them soon.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Jona on February 15, 2016, 04:43:36 pm
Bec de Corbin

That axe is broke because there is no reason to use most of the other polearms.
2h version also have half assed stats,  but that is not that bad like with polearm version.

But all of that is nothing when you look on that new shielld

Viking Round Shield
weight: 8
body armor: 35
difficulty: 5
hit points: 375
speed rating: 81
shield width: 148 100 would be supergood but that is just overkill

Huscarl's Round Shield
weight: 8
body armor: 26
difficulty: 5
hit points: 400
speed rating: 80
shield width: 84
Can't use on horseback

Heavy Board Shield
weight: 9
body armor: 17
difficulty: 4
hit points: 600
speed rating: 80
shield height: 94
shield width: 60
Can't use on horseback

so that shield is  big as 2 Heavy Board Shield side by side

Horses suck, that stats on them are joke, I believe all that stars are just joke and someone will change them soon.

I'm fairly certain that in the past they've mistaken shield width on a circular shield for the diameter rather than the radius, so it is probably the same thing here. Expect it to be reduced to 74 or so.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Danetti on February 15, 2016, 04:50:37 pm
Viking Round Shield                 
weight: 8
body armor: 35
difficulty: 5
hit points: 375
speed rating: 81
shield width:148

Huscarl's Round Shield
weight: 8
body armor: 26
difficulty: 5
hit points: 400
speed rating: 80
shield width: 84
Can't use on horseback

Same weight, more speed lol, also da fok is this width.

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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Albus on February 15, 2016, 04:53:20 pm
Could someone please get a picture of the new shield, I can't get ingame to see it :( 
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Danetti on February 15, 2016, 04:55:39 pm
Could someone please get a picture of the new shield, I can't get ingame to see it :(

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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Jona on February 15, 2016, 05:01:50 pm
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Oh damn, maybe the width is correct this time. That is just a table strapped onto some dude's back.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Danetti on February 15, 2016, 05:07:15 pm
Oh damn, maybe the width is correct this time. That is just a table strapped onto some dude's back.

Just took table with me cos why not D:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Dionysus on February 15, 2016, 05:15:09 pm
Cool additions. May need some balancing tweaks, but otherwise good stuff.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 15, 2016, 05:19:52 pm
Yes please, we all know that only the 2h class is allowed to have overpowered weapons.

IMO, remove the dank axe, and give a major buff to the lolstabs.


Thanks

What weapon in the 2h category is on par with the new dank long axe? Are you actually wanting the new axe to stay? There would be 0 reason to use any other polearm, except maybe pokey ones.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Gimest on February 15, 2016, 06:05:58 pm
I think both, dane axe and long dane axe are a bit baddly designed stat wise.

And now that i checked the other items and their counterparts, all of these items are badly designed stat wise. Hope there's gonna be some good suggestions and a small remade.

That 2h dane axe could have 2 or 3 less speed, at the moment it beats bearded axe in every way, and loses only 1 cut to celtic, beats it in anything else.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: SG_Anani on February 15, 2016, 06:11:55 pm
please 6 riding for the new horses :(
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Jona on February 15, 2016, 06:42:22 pm
I haven't had a look at the model yet, so I have no idea if the long dane axe should be focused on high damage output at the cost of speed (not that any weapon is ever balanced based off of its design, although that would be nice), but regardless here are my suggested stats:

Long Dane Axe
weapon length: 142
weight: 3.3
difficulty: 21
speed rating: 92
thrust damage: 18 pierce (should it be blunt? or cut?)
swing damage: 41-42 cut
slots: 2
Bonus against Shield

Take it for what you will.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 15, 2016, 06:44:58 pm
Agreed, its stats make it quite potent. Yet another reason to never use the great long axe ever again as it grows ever worse (still no clue why it ever got nerfed in a semi-recent patch).

Seeing the dane long axe stats makes me want to masterwork it immediately, and then I realized if the stats seem that amazing to me, it likely will need to be nerfed to make it more in line with the other polearms :)
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Dupre on February 15, 2016, 06:46:04 pm
Stats are off cause I added all the items on this patch  :mrgreen:. I didn't really look at any other stats cause I was short on time, so didn't really do any stat balancing with the new items.

Save your tears though, Matt2507 has some pretty big item balance changes coming up  :lol:

harald: Added new XP formula, adapted high level titles, retirement and STF functionality.
harald: Set start level of new characters to 25.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Utrakil on February 15, 2016, 06:47:37 pm
What is that quote trying to tell me :?:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: McKli_PL on February 15, 2016, 06:49:30 pm
Save your tears though, Matt2507 has some pretty big item balance changes coming up  :lol:
[N]o [R]etreat :lol:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Danetti on February 15, 2016, 07:00:55 pm
Stats are off cause I added all the items on this patch  :mrgreen:. I didn't really look at any other stats cause I was short on time, so didn't really do any stat balancing with the new items.

Save your tears though, Matt2507 has some pretty big item balance changes coming up  :lol:



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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rebelyell on February 15, 2016, 07:02:26 pm
Stats are off cause I added all the items on this patch  :mrgreen:. I didn't really look at any other stats cause I was short on time, so didn't really do any stat balancing with the new items.

Save your tears though, Matt2507 has some pretty big item balance changes coming up  :lol:

I see mad people's, I see torches, I see forks...
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Man of Steel on February 15, 2016, 07:02:56 pm
harald: Added 1 heirloom exchange service per account (to the last online char)
That would be awesome too  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: matt2507 on February 15, 2016, 07:19:03 pm
I see mad people's, I see torches, I see forks...

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| [0] Torch                                          | old                            | new                           |
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| gold                                               | 130                            | 9999999                       |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 60                            |
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 0 blunt                       |
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| [0] Pitch Fork                                     | old                            | new                           |
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| gold                                               | 127                            | 9999999                       |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 63                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 0 blunt                       |
| swing damage                                       | 15 blunt                       | 0 blunt                       |
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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Jona on February 15, 2016, 07:29:50 pm
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| [0] Torch                                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 130                            | 9999999                       |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 60                            |
| swing damage                                       | 19 blunt                       | 0 blunt                       |
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| [0] Pitch Fork                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| gold                                               | 127                            | 9999999                       |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 63                            |
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 0 blunt                       |
| swing damage                                       | 15 blunt                       | 0 blunt                       |
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I don't think the Free Peasants of Fisdnar approve.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Penitent on February 15, 2016, 07:51:07 pm
1.   New items!  Thank you! :)

All these new items need an exchange or another loom flash sale!
I mean, we had a flash sale -- then a few weeks pass -- THEN we get the new items.  No fair!  No loom points left.


2.  Siege maps!  Thank you!

Let's get that "NA1 switches to siege for a couple hours a week" thing going!


3. Viking shield can't be legit -- can it?  It has better durability/speed than the huscarl shield, but it sacrifices -- HOLY SHIT IT HAS 148 WIDTH.


Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Yeldur on February 15, 2016, 07:54:50 pm
Loving all this new equipment, amazing work as usual guys!
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Argoth on February 15, 2016, 08:16:44 pm
Nice new items, will we still be seeing armor from the Vikingr OSP in the future?
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: BlindGuy on February 15, 2016, 09:22:51 pm
Stats are off cause I added all the items on this patch  :mrgreen:. I didn't really look at any other stats cause I was short on time, so didn't really do any stat balancing with the new items.

Save your tears though, Matt2507 has some pretty big item balance changes coming up  :lol:
WHY when you add a new item do you not even consider balancing first?

I really don't give a monkeyfuck about how happy you are with new gear, I only like playing. But you broke it.

You've added a pole-arm and a shield that make every one in their class redundant. I understand you are excited to put your new goodies in, but this is still a game we play, not just a showcase. Once again really disappointed that the basics are ignored and you continue to build a tower of sand.

ALSO why not fix current stuff before adding new:

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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Dupre on February 15, 2016, 09:35:38 pm
WHY when you add a new item do you not even consider balancing first?

I really don't give a monkeyfuck about how happy you are with new gear, I only like playing. But you broke it.

You've added a pole-arm and a shield that make every one in their class redundant. I understand you are excited to put your new goodies in, but this is still a game we play, not just a showcase. Once again really disappointed that the basics are ignored and you continue to build a tower of sand.

ALSO why not fix current stuff before adding new:

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Thanks for the feedback  :lol:
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: BlindGuy on February 15, 2016, 09:36:29 pm
Thanks for the feedback  :lol:

You're a cheeky cunt and you should look before you leap in life.

Also: do you have a lazy eye or some other reason you cannot judge scale?
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Asheram on February 15, 2016, 09:55:32 pm
What about actually playing the game and retiering
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I have around 110 gens on all my characters is that retiring enough? Oh wait I still don't have the looms to put into new items, unless I sell some of my loomed gear(most likely @ a loss) that I don't want to.

Thanks for the feedback  :lol:
Can we get
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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Penitent on February 15, 2016, 10:03:14 pm
I'd actually love to have a shovel as a peasant 2h or pole weapon.  You can hit with the edge for paltry cut damage, or use alt mode to smack with the flat for weak blunt damage with knockdown!
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Asheram on February 15, 2016, 10:05:39 pm
Just took table with me cos why not D:
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 bring a dagger, military fork, use a pot helm and that shield and you are ready to EAT!
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Zeus_ on February 15, 2016, 10:11:34 pm
Can we get
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added to the game please?

yes, I'd like to bury the corpses I make.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Screaming Idiot on February 15, 2016, 10:12:25 pm
I'd actually love to have a shovel as a peasant 2h or pole weapon.  You can hit with the edge for paltry cut damage, or use alt mode to smack with the flat for weak blunt damage with knockdown!

Sharpened shovels or shovel-like tools were surprisingly common improvised weapons from antiquity up to WWI and WWII, especially the former as it included much more trench warfare. But yeah, totes add a [P]easant shovel!
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Asheram on February 15, 2016, 10:27:43 pm
I'd actually love to have a shovel as a peasant 2h or pole weapon.  You can hit with the edge for paltry cut damage, or use alt mode to smack with the flat for weak blunt damage with knockdown!
Also add the ability to dig a trench for cav to ride into  :P
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Krave on February 15, 2016, 11:12:14 pm
The Deluge mod had shovels. You could use them to entrench yourself, really cool feature. Too bad mod is ded...
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Oreo on February 15, 2016, 11:32:59 pm
stop with the new fucking trash items

theres no need for them
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Yuang on February 16, 2016, 04:06:16 am
There is an error on the website:

"Hunting Axe" and "Two handed Throwing axe", both of the icon to engage in anti.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 16, 2016, 04:23:15 am
I dunno about you guys, but adding a new bow during peak archer fearmongering and the fucking tableshield AND a OP polearm?

I can't wait to get a chance to play.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Penitent on February 16, 2016, 05:00:58 am
I haven't had a look at the model yet, so I have no idea if the long dane axe should be focused on high damage output at the cost of speed (not that any weapon is ever balanced based off of its design, although that would be nice), but regardless here are my suggested stats:

Long Dane Axe
weapon length: 142
weight: 3.3
difficulty: 21
speed rating: 92
thrust damage: 18 pierce (should it be blunt? or cut?)
swing damage: 41-42 cut
slots: 2
Bonus against Shield

Take it for what you will.

Jona is an item advisor, but he's also an expert on polearms.  I'd take his word for it.

I'm pretty familiar with shields.  Since 2012.  The huscarl and heavy board shield are already big as heck.  Compared to those the viking shield is from another dimension. :)  It's all good to have a nice big shield, a balanced shield of that size should have speed and weight like the steel shield to compensate.  Either that, or a nerf in durability (hp/armor) would balance it.

Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Rico on February 16, 2016, 07:37:14 am
hey dupre i think nobody noticed yet :?: :P
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Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: BlindGuy on February 16, 2016, 10:43:36 am
I'm pretty familiar with shields.  Since 2012.  The huscarl and heavy board shield are already big as heck.  Compared to those the viking shield is from another dimension. :)  It's all good to have a nice big shield, a balanced shield of that size should have speed and weight like the steel shield to compensate.  Either that, or a nerf in durability (hp/armor) would balance it.

Usable on horseback also needs removing. That or make my round shield also usable on horseback.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Yeldur on February 16, 2016, 12:12:31 pm
WHY when you add a new item do you not even consider balancing first?

I really don't give a monkeyfuck about how happy you are with new gear, I only like playing. But you broke it.

You've added a pole-arm and a shield that make every one in their class redundant. I understand you are excited to put your new goodies in, but this is still a game we play, not just a showcase. Once again really disappointed that the basics are ignored and you continue to build a tower of sand.

ALSO why not fix current stuff before adding new:

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Although I will say that in this case, it doesn't really count as Dupre said that there was no balancing done to the items in question, however, for most other items I would argue the case that they need to be put into the game to see how unbalanced they are compared to other items, I mean, it is a completely new item so you'd need to do some form of live testing to figure out what is wrong with it.

Though I will say with the Dane axes it's fairly obvious that they're quite ridiculously unbalanced, but I love them.
brb bribing dupre to "forget" to balance them.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: njames89 on February 16, 2016, 01:40:00 pm
Another great patch with awesome new items!!! Keep up the great work! n_n
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: Gravoth_iii on February 16, 2016, 01:48:39 pm
Id also like to point out that Swedish sword is basically purely worse than lombardic sword. A point of speed would change this, or some increase in damage. Right now its 7 reach shorter, with .1 weight more. Definitely not worth.
Title: Re: 0.4.4.8
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 16, 2016, 09:27:48 pm
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