I hope Jose wins. I hate arrogant Irish whiteys. I've had enough with Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey and Luke Rockhold being arrogant douchebags. Now this pasty leprechaun? I hope Jose cuts off his head and parades it in the favelas in Brazil.Pah, screw that Brazilian dwarf. The pasty Leprechaun is gonna whoop Aldo's ass big time. He's even gonna KO him. You'll see.
Is normal. Hespect.
I'm more excited for my favorite fighter fighting the week after. A.ka Alistair Overeem facing off against Junior Dos Santos in a heavyweight battle of the ages.
MMA has more action and is more exciting.
I'd bet there is a dashcam video of him, slugging it out after a car crash somewhere in Russia :lol:(click to show/hide)
Is Gregor actually a very good fighter or do people just like him because he looks cool?
I'm a long time mma fan and try to watch every UFC event, goes without saying i'm very excited about this saturday. Rooting for Conor, but Jose's been undefeated for 10 years for a reason, he's a beast. I love Conor's personality btw, even though i usually prefer the calm and humble fighters, but after watching some documentaries etc, it's clear that he's just a very honest and outgoing guy that enjoys every moment he lives. Not to mention that it's both his fighting style and charisma that helped generate so much hype for this fight. Aldo is probably pretty happy too, i'm pretty sure this is the most he's ever made throughout his entire career.gib UFC game 4 PC!
P.S. anyone here plays PS4 EA UFC ?
Ur not a long time Russian MMA fan if ur not a fan of Fedor Emelianenko. Cyka blyatOf course I am, although i hate the fact that he's "back" for some crappy Japanese freak show instead of testing himself in the lackluster UFC HW division.
Fedor was pretty shit technically, he was a competent grappler but his main thing was his heart. It's kind of sad to see him make a comeback, like a burned out clown. Comebacks never go well at his age and only tarnishes the legend of the fighter.Um, no. He had perfected transitioning from striking to grappling, post-pride he became more of a brawler. His striking does look unorthodox and clumsy compared to your usual boxing/kickboxing, but those looping punches is a sambo technique that has a purpose, it's not just "spray and pray". Check out the undefeated Khabib "I love being injured" Nurmagomedov, who also trained sambo his whole life.
His striking is unorthodox and clumsy, whether his looping punches are a Sambo technique or not.And yet it works because of that. He wouldn't have been able to beat prime Mirko standing if he was a bad striker, even with the biggest heart.
And yet it works because of that. He wouldn't have been able to beat prime Mirko standing if he was a bad striker, even with the biggest heart.He made his striking work, yes, but no one in their right mind would call him a technical striking genius. It worked because of other factors (like his speed and reflex advantage, the fear of grappling, etc), his stand up was good in spite of his striking skills, not because of them. And Mirko was shit in that fight.
Most of his fans are gay bandwagoners. He's good but his fans overrate him plus the owners of UFC are friends with him. Makes u wonder if there's gonna be someone taking a dive or even if the judges will be bribed.
He made his striking work, yes, but no one in their right mind would call him a technical striking genius. It worked because of other factors (like his speed and reflex advantage, the fear of grappling, etc), his stand up was good in spite of his striking skills, not because of them. And Mirko was shit in that fight.
Technical =/= technique... one technique has nothing to do with whether his stand up is technical or not.It had everything to do with it, as well as the things you have mentioned in your second sentence.
Fedor's success in MMA had almost nothing to do with his unorthodox striking. His grappling and GnP are the biggest contributors to his success.
It had everything to do with it, as well as the things you have mentioned in your second sentence.No, you're not seeing the forest from the trees if you think so. Why do you think Mirko looked so timid? Because he was afraid of Fedor's unorthodox stand up? ...
Yup. A whole new ball game. The current hws are ten times more technical and versatile than in Fedor's prime.Oh my, haven't seen this one earlier. I really wanted to stop arguing with you in this thread, but i just can't let this one slip by. Now, let's see.
You did a good job proving my point. The fighters on that list are way more formidable than the fighters ten years ago in HW. It's also funny that "brawler Fedor" suddenly becomes a thing when it's obvious his stand up is crude and not technical. Why would he get less technical over time? He wouldn't. He was never technical, and it's just an excuse -- "oh, that doesn't count, because suddenly he decided he doesn't want to use techniques anymore."You wish. Did you even read my post before continuing with your ignorance ? Most of these fighters are OLD, as in they were fighting almost in the same period when Fedor was fighting. The rest are just a bunch of big guys with some minor training, but nowhere near the "technical monsters of the new MMA ERA" you're trying to make them look. If you want to make a point of MMA gettting overall more complete fighters, look at the ww division and below, but not heavyweight.
Yes. MMA is a martial art by itself now. It doesn't matter if the fighters are ~35, they're better trained than they were ten years ago. But no, you're right, having a flat nose means you can't fight. Such genius analysis.What i meant by that is that he's almost punch drunk by now, ko'd brutally (by Fedor too) several times, and HE IS NOT ANY BETTER than when he was a UFC hw champ years ago. What does that tell you? That the HW divisions top 10 outside of a couple of guys is pretty much stagnant in skill. It's not like he's any faster or he started throwing spinning hook kicks all of a sudden, or submitting people with gogoplatas.
I'd bet there is a dashcam video of him, slugging it out after a car crash somewhere in Russia :lol:
I prefer Kickboxing over Boxing. But MMA over both. Glory and old K1 has some good bouts.
http://matchtv.ru/#live-player main card will be there with lot of viagra advertisment
I like them all but you will not see the best strikers in MMA due to the nature of the rules, example not being allowed to knee during shoots and worse pay.
I like them all but you will not see the best strikers in MMA due to the nature of the rules, example not being allowed to knee during shoots and worse pay.Would be awesome if some of the best Thais tried MMA...
Only this guy
Would be awesome if some of the best Thais tried MMA...
Live stream everybody, prelims started !Thanks for the link. very appreciated!
http://mma-today.ru/video/pryamaya-translyaciya-ufc-194-jose-aldo-vs-konor-makgregor
Live stream everybody, prelims started !
http://mma-today.ru/video/pryamaya-translyaciya-ufc-194-jose-aldo-vs-konor-makgregor
No fucks given. I can watch it live on a mainstream russian sports channel (for free), i just use the online stream cause i don't like the russian announcers, it's not the same without Rogan being all dramatic and shit. =)
Watch next week's fight event with UFC on Fox 17 instead. Overeem vs JDS (2 of the best strikers in MMA and gonna be a heavyweight fight for the ages)Taking Overeems chin into account and Junior's bombs for hands, it can end just as fast as Conor - Aldo :).
Taking Overeems chin into account and Junior's bombs for hands, it can end just as fast as Conor - Aldo :).
Accuracy beats Power, Timing beats Speed.
Blus aldo was litterally leaning in while knocked out. So basically he knocken himself out 50 %+
Among those who went home with an extra $50,000 check are Conor McGregor, Luke Rockhold and Chris Weidmanrly?
Blus aldo was litterally leaning in while knocked out. So basically he knocken himself out 50 %+Not true at all. Aldo threw a standard combination. He wasn't "literally leaning in" or "knocking himself out" or "bullrushing McGregor." McGregor just had perfect timing and accuracy. Aldo had to commit to compensate for the reach disadvantage.
Not true at all. Aldo threw a standard combination. He wasn't "literally leaning in" or "knocking himself out" or "bullrushing McGregor." McGregor just had perfect timing and accuracy. Aldo had to commit to compensate for the reach disadvantage.
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From this replay I can already see more power generated indeed.
Not true at all. Aldo threw a standard combination. He wasn't "literally leaning in" or "knocking himself out" or "bullrushing McGregor." McGregor just had perfect timing and accuracy. Aldo had to commit to compensate for the reach disadvantage.
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rly?
Thats all im saying mr. Xant.I get that, but it's not like he's sprinting forward with his chin up. Wouldn't have made a difference if he was standing still, most of the force came from McGregor.
Of course he had to get closer and move foward cus of reach, but thats not my point. Im not judging or doubting what hes doing, im merely stating the fact that it added a lot of force to the well delivered punch and left him in a vulnerable and instable position. As a reply to butans initial post.
They should let fight go on after knockout like in boxing, looked like he could have gotten up and recovered within a 10 count.
They should let fight go on after knockout like in boxing, looked like he could have gotten up and recovered within a 10 count.This would completly undermine the idea of MMA.
They should let fight go on after knockout like in boxing, looked like he could have gotten up and recovered within a 10 count.
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There's no " " about it. Aldo got KO'd, pure and simple.
They should let fight go on after knockout like in boxing, looked like he could have gotten up and recovered within a 10 count.... Why?
McGregor was himself leaning out, and only threw a half assed counter.It was a clean perfectly executed counter punch against an opponent who was moving forward, by a heavy-handed boxer as well. Nothing controversial about it.
The punch was weak but it completely shocked Aldo, cant argue against human biology I guess!
Wish it had been longer, and both opponents had been able to show how much they can sustain!
I really prefer endurance fight, I guess UFC is not for me :P
Not true at all. Aldo threw a standard combination. He wasn't "literally leaning in" or "knocking himself out" or "bullrushing McGregor." McGregor just had perfect timing and accuracy. Aldo had to commit to compensate for the reach disadvantage.Yup. The combination ALdo was throwing was good (he even connected as he was getting KOd), but Conor saw it coming and countered flawlessly. Besides, it's not a smart idea to attack a southpaw with a heavy left hand with an overextended right hook.(click to show/hide)
More brain derpy ppl in Boxing than MMA though. Maybe getting up to be KO'd again and again isn't that healthy long term-wise.You can even see Aldo's toes curl up after he gets hit. How the fuck could that be a dive. That's just nerd rage now!
Well if it was a dive but still took the shot it's still ''KO'd''. Inner tinfoil hatness intensifies but still.
But whatever. Overeem got a heavyweight match of the decade coming up next week. Jon Jones is back. Yoel Romero is on a warpath and is serving Jesus. And finally, UFC 200 is just around the corner. Who cares about the Featherweights?
There are a lot of people trying to discredit McGregor's win by either saying it was a fixed match (lol) or that Aldo went full retard and just ran at McGregor with his chin up. Was it a good tactic to commit right off the bat, before getting the rhythm down? No, probably not, but his footwork wasn't bad and the combination he threw was a legit, standard one.
His combination was bad, that's why he got knocked out. Who starts a fight off with a right hook into a left hook against a southpaw who has a reach advantage?Don't know? Aldo didn't throw a right hook in the match.
so I've been waiting for this for 2 months since I jumped on the hype train :D :D :D
they should just reset and do fight number 2 after 2 mins :)
Don't know? Aldo didn't throw a right hook in the match.
Yes, I watched it. It was a feint, and looks more like a straight than a hook. Nothing wrong with that combination.
He feinted one or drew it back right before he threw the left one. Watch the replay
Don't know? Aldo didn't throw a right hook in the match.
Fighting against southpaw is difficult, you want to step to the outside of their lead foot, usually this is done moving forward with a jab or slipping a punch. He feinted a right hook into a left hook, prolly the most dangerous combination against a Southpaw.He didn't. He feinted a right straight, which would have worked except McGregor didn't buy the feint for some reason. Could be he didn't even see it coming and just got lucky. If Conor had tried to block it he wouldn't have been able to throw a left hook, which would have allowed Aldo's left hook to hit him first. Instead Conor went for his own left hook, completely ignoring the feint. Which would have been bad for him, had it not been a feint.
He didn't. He feinted a right straight, which would have worked except McGregor didn't buy the feint for some reason. Could be he didn't even see it coming and just got lucky. If Conor had tried to block it he wouldn't have been able to throw a left hook, which would have allowed Aldo's left hook to hit him first. Instead Conor went for his own left hook, completely ignoring the feint. Which would have been bad for him, had it not been a feint.
It was a clean perfectly executed counter punch against an opponent who was moving forward, by a heavy-handed boxer as well. Nothing controversial about it.
Noone would buy that feint, it was impossible to land from that distance.I guess the #1 p4p fighter doesn't know as much about feinting as you, then.
I guess the #1 p4p fighter doesn't know as much about feinting as you, then.
http://www.ufc.ca/rankings
I guess the #1 p4p fighter doesn't know as much about feinting as you, then.
https://streamable.com/6dbr
https://streamable.com/6dbr
https://streamable.com/6dbr
https://streamable.com/6dbr
Most people won't care if the right is a feint or not at that distance, they just counter on instinct because they know they will beat you to the punch.That makes no sense. Anyone can see from the gif that if Aldo's punch had been real, it would have connected, and it would have connected before Conor's hook. Conor is good, but he can't beat physics yet.
https://streamable.com/6dbr
That makes no sense. Anyone can see from the gif that if Aldo's punch had been real, it would have connected, and it would have connected before Conor's hook. Conor is good, but he can't beat physics yet.
He didn't fully turn his chest and only half-way extended his arm and it was still really close to Conor's chest. If you think that right wouldn't have landed then I don't know what to tell you, apparently you don't know how to punch. It would've literally landed before Conor's punch even if he kept his arm only half-extended and didn't turn in, just by keeping his forward momentum going.
not even close watch in .25 speed.Because it's a feint and he pulls his hand back....
Jose Aldo took a dive