you ask to much for a class everybody hate...
why u dont play a normal cav build ? you were ok as 1h cav shielder ... and rly funny to see with your 2 shields =p
All i see here is alot of QQing about me as a player. what the hell do that have anything to do with hx as a class.
Its fairly obvious.
Comparing the classes.
Ranged can attack from a distance but can be chased down.
+1 -1
Melee has to close the distance to attack but they can chase down ranged.
-1 +1
Lance and bump cav can outrun and chase down, but they have to close the distance to attack, leaving themselves vulnerable.
+1 -1
Horse ranged can attack from a distance without leaving themselves vulnerable.
+1 +1
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I cant comment on how others play... but iv allways done alot of support by bumping. but you try and snipe as a hx... good fucking luck. Most of my deaths are from melee ppl anyway. Yes the class has a potential to be annoing as hell... but so do a pure agi/ath character, or a shielder, or a kiting archer.
also how cant i be chased down ? im 20% slower than cav and reload that takes forever. its FAR less risky for cav to chase me down vs an archer
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Its not quite the same. Archers are encouraged to play as a team together in sniping spots. They have team mates who put up siege shields, melee defending against cav/ other melee etc. Its a cooperative gameplay that people don't find quite as annoying as someone who takes pot shots then disappears before they can take any damage in return. HA/HX have inherent strengths in their kit against immobile ranged (xbows especially, but archers have to stand still to shoot too), plus they can kite and shoot horses + kite and shoot melee. Most archers are now taking strength so they can deal decent damage too, so they can't kite anywhere like a HA/HX can
The bottom line is the gameplay suffers for the majority of the playerbase, and it can occur from just one or 2 players just because of the class they choose to play. The counterplay people often talk about is literally standing by a flag (so fun, and only occurs at the end of the round and even then they just bump and shoot) or hiding and hoping ranged kill their horse. Meanwhile everyone else is actually playing a game while you're standing around. Then add that it artificially inflates a player's potential impact in a round. Give niluk or delay_more any other class and they struggle
No one ever supports a buff thats not directly buffing whatever they enjoy playing. The majority of this mod wants every class nerfed, polearm right swing? nerf it. 2h thrust? nerf it. Archers? nerf. Crossbow? nerf. etc etc.
An archer can be at the same "no risk" as a HR. Simply by staying on a hill super far away, having a bit higher than average athletics. No infantry will catch up. Cav can catch up sure, but then it would be at the same point as HR which are also slower than other cav. So i dont see the reasoning here, except that foot archers basically do more damage, have less skillpoints spent on riding+HA so they can easily have melee aswell.
also have i ever been rude to you... you seem to sling alot of shit for no reason.
Its not quite the same. Archers are encouraged to play as a team together in sniping spots. They have team mates who put up siege shields, melee defending against cav/ other melee etc. Its a cooperative gameplay that people don't find quite as annoying as someone who takes pot shots then disappears before they can take any damage in return. HA/HX have inherent strengths in their kit against immobile ranged (xbows especially, but archers have to stand still to shoot too), plus they can kite and shoot horses + kite and shoot melee. Most archers are now taking strength so they can deal decent damage too, so they can't kite anywhere like a HA/HX can
The bottom line is the gameplay suffers for the majority of the playerbase, and it can occur from just one or 2 players just because of the class they choose to play. The counterplay people often talk about is literally standing by a flag (so fun, and only occurs at the end of the round and even then they just bump and shoot) or hiding and hoping ranged kill their horse. Meanwhile everyone else is actually playing a game while you're standing around. Then add that it artificially inflates a player's potential impact in a round. Give niluk or delay_more any other class and they struggle
Give niluk or delay_more any other class and they struggle
I guess the majority of people hate horsearcher/crossbow not cuz of them being too op (or ever were op). They hate them cuz they simply delay every single round they survive. In my opinion that class can be buffed as much as anyone wants to, but make a rule that if there are in one team only horseranged left that they have to dismount.
oh and hate more. With every round u ride around as last guy and do kinda nothing, you are rude to the whole server. Ive seen it often that like 50 players wait for one, just cuz that one does not want to die (even in rounds which are totally impossible to win). And Ive seen u doing it already on every round on a whole map.
oh and hate more. With every round u ride around as last guy and do kinda nothing, you are rude to the whole server. Ive seen it often that like 50 players wait for one, just cuz that one does not want to die (even in rounds which are totally impossible to win). And Ive seen u doing it already on every round on a whole map.
Give niluk or delay_more any other class and they struggleProbably only a matter of training. I was in the same Native clan as Hate_More for years and we considered him one of the better lancers of the game. Of course Native is not cRPG but I guess he just likes HX now.
mate it depends. If Im a melee fighting 5 enemies I won't just go fullretard charge and die, I will try to win the round. But when there is no way to get valour and no way to win the round and Im horsearcher I 100 percently dismount and fight in melee.
And I did not mean u have to stand still, dismounting and trying some melee stuff is totally okay, atleast when there are no ranged in the enemey team left! When there is an archer who's to stupid to hit u nobody will be angry about u, they will flame about the archer!
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And now u imagine being a inf in a 1 vs 1 against a horsecrossbow, who does more dmg and is totally unreachable.
I think it is bullshit that they nerfed hx and ha until the total death of the class, was by far the funniest thing at all!
All i see here is alot of QQing about me as a player. what the hell do that have anything to do with hx as a class.
Fun for the one playing it, not fun for everyone else.
all i see is a lamer who want to play a laming class =)
so ppl QQ more about your class than you
you are just one of those guy who want to be able to piss off everyone without be able to get kill
+1
Not sure if theres still the damage cap, but id say removing that would be the only buff needed. Since having 80% cav speed is a good nerf so that other cav atleast has a chance to take you down earlier, but then at the risk of being shot down.
Lol ikarus thats simply wrong. I can still play horsearcher successfully.. Im never lower than top 3 with it, I fucking played that class for atleast 500 hours (wfas), it is just like that the class is not effective and neither is it op. Earlier u could easily kill 4 cavs hunting you, nowadays u gotta simply take them one by one, due to the lack of skill of most cavs they are pretty easy to trick and pretty easy to dismount, and that is what ha is all about nowadays! It is a anti cav class. And if u have the right build (27/18 would be my suggestion atm) u will see that it is simply harder nowadays, even harder, but still okay.
Actually this is pretty much for ha, hx is destroied, fucking go ha hate more
No he wasn't. He was fucking shit at it. It's the reason he played HX in the first place, because it was an over powered piece of shit build with no counters if you played it like a massive pussy, which of course he did. Still, he was better at melee cav than inf melee. Watching Hatemore trying to melee has always been hilarious.
...want an annoying class likethere, I fixed itHA orHX to be back again, but...
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I was watching someone play HX, reloading took him like 20+ seconds, really pathetic sight and it made me kind of sad. Hated class sure, but it doesnt need to be destroyed. I miss Hate_more.
look, if even hate_more can´t play hx successfully, something is EXTREMELY wrong with that class
you´d be even more successful with a 2h/1hshield/throw/archer hybrid
US_Cavalry approves.
I was watching someone play HX, reloading took him like 20+ seconds, really pathetic sight and it made me kind of sad. Hated class sure, but it doesnt need to be destroyed.
I miss Hate More
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Real men play Heavy 2h Xbow
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