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cRPG => Game Admin Feedback => Topic started by: Dach on September 28, 2012, 09:13:20 am

Title: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on September 28, 2012, 09:13:20 am
Finally took some time to make my own hate admin feedback thread.

Enjoy!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Haboe on September 28, 2012, 11:02:24 am
You had already :P

One could have simply let someone adjust the title of you previous admin feedback hate thread. http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/fallen-dach/15/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/fallen-dach/15/)

Ah well, new topic, fresh start bring in ze feedbacks!

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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: TehSoviet on September 28, 2012, 06:04:13 pm
Doesn't change the fact that you kicked the office objects mid - combat.
It also really doesn't matter how YOU viewed their style of play " Saw a lots of non-intention to fight, disregard of their team mate and overall leeching. " If they actually HAD score, and good kills, it doesn't matter if you didn't like the way they stood up against a wall. They would spring on the enemy as soon as they were close enough, and murder the shit out of them. They warded cavalry away from the archers, and worked as mobile shields for ranged to hide behind because they were incredibly armoured, with high HP.

You didn't address any of the points we made, and brushed the argument away, so you'd better explain your motives or nicely retire from the ranks of admins because you lack the responsibility to be one.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 28, 2012, 08:34:30 pm
"Is this admin doing his job correctly?

Yes
    12 (36.4%)
No
    21 (63.6%)

Total Members Voted: 33" as of 9/28/2012

That is the results from your previous feedback thread. Please return your poll option to the proper questions and answers. Your current poll doesn't give the community an appropriate avenue to grade you on your performance. After looking at most of the active NA admin threads, you currently have the worst approval rating out of all of them.

Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Espwn on September 28, 2012, 09:35:58 pm
It's time to get this admin off his high horse. He has kicked the office objects with no justification. Remove his powers please.

Your favorite hobbit,
Frodo
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 28, 2012, 10:03:34 pm
I'm hazarding a guess that the Potted Plants are FCC alts? I'm starting to wonder how many "theme nights" you were responsible for in the past, heh.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 28, 2012, 10:13:10 pm
Remove his powers please.

I'm afraid that it takes more than couple angry leecher kids to do that :rolleyes:

You can still read the old thread. There is also quite a lot positive comments from rather respectable users.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Espwn on September 28, 2012, 10:48:53 pm
Stop playing favorites with your clan and accept the fact that the guy isn't doing his job right.

Warns the office objects, who were not even leaching, and as well as towards the top of the scoreboard.
Then the office objects proceeded to destroy infantry in the open field before they were kicked.

Just please tell us how they were leaching in any way. Are people not aloud to stand still for a couple of seconds and slay anyone that crosses their path?

Folks, we got a derp on our hands.

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oh...

You can still read the old thread. There is also quite a lot positive comments from rather respectable users.


I did read his thread. He had a total of 1 good positive comment on him.
His votes were:
Is this admin doing his job correctly?
Yes: 13
No: 22

And I assume a majority of the yes is his own faction/clan.

It seems pretty obvious to me, and people that posted in his previous thread, that he isn't a good admin.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 28, 2012, 11:03:22 pm
Feel free to speak your mind. You are going to need much more than one case and this is not even clear abuse. It's one lost multi because of one kick. Did he even ban? I don't know because I'm not NA. I don't know how Dach admins. I'm just stating facts. PieParadox and Dalfador said he was doing a good job and they have nothing to do with Fallen.

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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Espwn on September 28, 2012, 11:15:30 pm
Doesn't it also seem kinda odd that he has so much negative feedback on his previous post, that he had to attempt to make a new post to try to make himself look good? He doesn't even have accurate voting options in this tread.

I don't think anyone else likes this admin except the Fallen_Brigade, which contains the global mod to keep him in power. Seems a little corrupt to me, but whatever, I'm not here to argue, only to point out blatant stupidity.
If the amount of people that he kicks/bans would actually post on the forum, he would have had his privileges removed by now.

I don't know because I'm not NA. I don't know how Dach admins.

Yeah you have no idea. Your defensive arguments are proven invalid.

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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 28, 2012, 11:39:07 pm
I locked the previous thread because it's usually the admin who opens his own feedback thread to make it fair (original post is neutral that way). Needless to say the previous thread opening post was not neutral and can easily attract only people alike OP, making the poll as useless as this one.

I don't know about corruption but in case you didn't notice, it is not any voting or public opinion deciding whether some admin keeps his power or not. Of course if the abuse is severe and repetitive it's good thing to know about, so by all means report if you notice that. Better bring some proof too.

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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: stickher on September 28, 2012, 11:42:01 pm
yo for real he was wrong in every way

he threaten the office characters if they rejoin they where to get ban for no legit reason pls take this derps powers away its like a kid with downs working for the police and thinks good is bad

he is not smart enough to be an admin

hes also know for kicking ppl from sever when he rages when losing
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Espwn on September 28, 2012, 11:50:29 pm
I locked the previous thread because it's usually the admin who opens his own feedback thread to make it fair (original post is neutral that way). Needless to say the previous thread opening post was not neutral and can easily attract only people alike OP, making the poll as useless as this one.

Probably one of the worst excuses I've heard/seen. You seem to be a bit thick-headed and ignorant about this issue regarding your fallen buddy.


I don't know about corruption but in case you didn't notice, it is not any voting or public opinion deciding whether some admin keeps his power or not. Of course if the abuse is severe and repetitive it's good thing to know about, so by all means report if you notice that. Better bring some proof too.

A lot of people in the NA community know that Dach rages and in the process of his uncontrollable rage, he tends to kick people.
And what, did you want me to form up some extensive case file? The proof is in the pudding, and people don't like him.

Oh, and if you were an attorney defending Dach in a court of law, for example, he would be in trouble. Worse defensive arguments.

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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 28, 2012, 11:56:07 pm
Well it's no use to argue with you because you are clearly delusional. I have no power whatsoever to keep his position as an admin. I only moderate the forums. Please continue.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Haboe on September 29, 2012, 12:05:06 am
He is enforcing the rules as he interpreted them.

He makes a decision that doesn't make him popular. He didn't become an admin to make friends, he became it to make sure everyone plays by the rules.
He made the call that you were breaking the rules, and he didn't crawl back just because someone opened a shitstorm on him.

That is what makes him a good admin.


So what he made a wrong call once, all admins will do sooner or later, that doesn't make him a bad admin.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 29, 2012, 12:07:06 am
I know nothing about you as an admin or a player, but since you are a NA admin, I picked "All above".
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: stickher on September 29, 2012, 12:08:09 am
wtf are u talking about he kiccked the office ppl cuz dach did not like their play style which was fine but he consider it to be leeching how is it leeching with plate armor that has top score on SKIP THE FUN what to leech gold ? in plate armor ? exp that u dont get?????

end of story he kicked them for no legit reason leeching that they where not doing. pls take his powers away he does not no what leeching actually is
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Espwn on September 29, 2012, 12:09:26 am
Well it's no use to argue with you because you are clearly delusional. I have no power whatsoever to keep his position as an admin. I only moderate the forums. Please continue.

Yeah I'll stop talking to you, too. It's good for you to retreat from a losing battle. And if I'm delusional, then you must be in your own god damn fantasy land filled with pixies and people that don't drop IQ from your word.

Good fight. /
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 29, 2012, 12:15:08 am
It was never a fight really...

Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Rhekimos on September 29, 2012, 12:27:28 am
wtf are u talking about he kiccked the office ppl cuz dach did not like their play style which was fine but he consider it to be leeching how is it leeching with plate armor that has top score on SKIP THE FUN what to leech gold ? in plate armor ? exp that u dont get?????

end of story he kicked them for no legit reason leeching that they where not doing. pls take his powers away he does not no what leeching actually is

Actually let's take a look at how watertight that reasoning is, shall we?

Is a skip the fun character an excuse to leech? No.
Is getting a good score an excuse to leech next round? No.
Is wearing plate an excuse to leech? Not according to the rules, no.

It seems not one of your arguments hold water.

Also there's a very handy thing called a shift key on both sides of your keyboard.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: stickher on September 29, 2012, 12:34:24 am
Actually let's take a look at how watertight that reasoning is, shall we?

Is a skip the fun character an excuse to leech? No.
Is getting a good score an excuse to leech next round? No.
Is wearing plate an excuse to leech? Not according to the rules, no.

It seems not one of your arguments hold water.

Also there's a very handy thing called a shift key on both sides of your keyboard.

u dont get the point why would u leech in that situation by standing around and playing defensive srysly? if they wanted to leech they could rush in die right away and tab out and leech gold that they would lose anyways. u dont understand they guy says their leeching when their not and they had no reason to ... hes a dumb admin who doesnt know what real leeching is and needs to be ban and if not and you think hes right all shields doing shield wall should be banned as well cuz they stand defensibly

sry for my bad english lazy typer
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on September 29, 2012, 12:39:31 am
Yay now I got a real admin feedback thread thank guys!  :D
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on September 29, 2012, 12:49:45 am
A lot of people in the NA community know that Dach rages and in the process of his uncontrollable rage, he tends to kick people.

And this made my day, thank you Frodo!  :lol: Going into my first sig on the c-rpg forum!
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: stickher on September 29, 2012, 01:00:59 am
And this made my day, thank you Frodo!  :lol: Going into my first sig on the c-rpg forum!

u can play it off like u dont know what hes talking about but any1 who had u in a ts or vent knows u do even if u dont which u most likly do from what ppl say u kick ppl who didnt leech for leeching and have not given a legit reason still and will not b/c you simply dont have one

tell the truth u where wrong so we can drop this and abuse ur powers
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Greziz on September 29, 2012, 01:09:11 am
I wasn't there but I know that the potted plants and office supply themed guys always wear some expensive plate and heavy chainmailles and sit in one relatively common area for combat and just maul anything that comes at them. I have never ever seen them at the bottom of the scoreboard like a leecher always is. They are legitimately there and they are legitimately waiting to smash the first thing to think they are docile office supplies.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 29, 2012, 02:04:48 am
No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)

    OK: running away and shooting enemies that are reachable by projectiles
    NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover.
    NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation to search for ammo

No leeching

    OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
    NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
    NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
    NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die

These are the two rules that best relate to the situation and this is how they effect this situation:
 They were not camping unreachable places and did not avoid confrontation.
 They were never AFK.
 By kicking 3 people at the top of the scoreboard it causes them to lose a multi, but their team loses one as well because now the players that clutch have been ejected.
 When an admin told them to stop camping, they became active and advanced position. I literally saw them fighting along side other teammates against a group of enemies when they were kicked. They altered their game style to better the play for all, but were still punished because they didn't live up to Dach's standard of how this game should be played.

I am a witness in this, I wasn't actually kicked or apart of their group at the time that this happened.

He is enforcing the rules as he interpreted them.

He makes a decision that doesn't make him popular. He didn't become an admin to make friends, he became it to make sure everyone plays by the rules.
He made the call that you were breaking the rules, and he didn't crawl back just because someone opened a shitstorm on him.

That is what makes him a good admin.


So what he made a wrong call once, all admins will do sooner or later, that doesn't make him a bad admin.

If he actually acknowledges that he made a bad call and apologizes, I'm positive that it solves this situation. A good admin is humble, fair, and impartial. They are here to preserve the fun for everyone who plays the game. We are all human and make mistakes, but when a mistake is made it should be owned up to.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: stickher on September 29, 2012, 02:51:11 am
No drawing/delaying the round on purpose (i.e. running away or camping unreachable places when you're one of the last people alive)

    OK: running away and shooting enemies that are reachable by projectiles
    NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation when there is nobody to shoot in range or everyone is behind cover.
    NOT OK: running away or avoiding confrontation to search for ammo

No leeching

    OK: Being a bad player and getting no kills
    NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode
    NOT OK: Running around without no weapon. Not contributing is leeching, naked runners don't contribute. This point does not apply to Rageball, as long as you are actually playing the game.
    NOT OK: Autorunning your char to enemy to die

These are the two rules that best relate to the situation and this is how they effect this situation:
 They were not camping unreachable places and did not avoid confrontation.
 They were never AFK.
 By kicking 3 people at the top of the scoreboard it causes them to lose a multi, but their team looses one as well because now the players that clutch have been ejected.
 When an admin told them to stop camping, they became active and advanced position. I literally saw them fighting along side other teammates against a group of enemies when they were kicked. They altered their game style to better the play for all, but were still punished because they didn't live up to Dach's standard of how this game should be played.

I am a witness in this, I wasn't actually kicked or apart of their group at the time that this happened.

If he actually acknowledges that he made a bad call and apologizes, I'm positive that it solves this situation. A good admin is humble, fair, and impartial. They are here to preserve the fun for everyone who plays the game. We are all human and make mistakes, but when a mistake is made it should be owned up to.
100% agree
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Greziz on September 29, 2012, 03:02:24 am
Fucken Gmno making us BRD LOOK ALL BAD. You and you well written punctuated shit. Maybe I throw a brick at you and make you special ed like the rest of us! GET ON OUR LEVEL!
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Spanish on September 29, 2012, 08:43:19 pm
Its okay man he typed "loose" instead of lose...Its an easy thing to do apparently
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 21, 2012, 12:20:11 am
Badmin; has ineffective poll options because he knows he's a badmin.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tanken on December 21, 2012, 11:13:12 pm
What was done to Daruvian yesterday in the battle server with an unjust kick (not to mention on a x5) and then the unresponsiveness or an adequate answer as to WHY he kicked Daruvian was never provided by Dach. I've always thought highly of Dach, but seriously--why did you kick him? And why, after the entire Server was asking you did you not man up and provide an answer or an apology?


That's horrible admin behavior.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on December 21, 2012, 11:42:41 pm
I answered the only revelant information after Daruvian come back in.

Defending the last alive player on the enemy team with his shield when his teammate are trying to shoot him.... duh...

If you guys want to keep your multiplier, just win the damn round and you will keep it.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on January 10, 2013, 10:12:55 pm
I answered the only revelant information after Daruvian come back in.

Defending the last alive player on the enemy team with his shield when his teammate are trying to shoot him.... duh...

If you guys want to keep your multiplier, just win the damn round and you will keep it.  :rolleyes:

There's no room for time-wasting or playfulness in video games.

No sir, no sir, no room for that.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Jeade on January 13, 2013, 01:03:22 am
There's no room for time-wasting or playfulness in video games.

No sir, no sir, no room for that.

Put simply, it's against the rules, and the players who've been waiting in spectator for 3 and a half minutes most likely do not want to wait 4 and a half minutes.

Dach, I've always wanted to tell you that your avatars are great. Your admin'ing is great, but your avatars... +1.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 13, 2013, 02:07:55 am
QUICK, I'M GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.

It sucks that a single HA/HX is allowed to "play his class" for up to 5-6 minutes, even if he does not hit a single enemy and the teams are 1v16. If the teams are 1v16 and someone on the 16 side wants to dick around for 1-2 minutes, it's not allowed.

Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 13, 2013, 04:07:53 am
QUICK, I'M GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.

It sucks that a single HA/HX is allowed to "play his class" for up to 5-6 minutes, even if he does not hit a single enemy and the teams are 1v16. If the teams are 1v16 and someone on the 16 side wants to dick around for 1-2 minutes, it's not allowed.


To be perfectly blunt, that is not Dach's fault that is the Overlord's Fault (CMP and such) for writing the rules, and you complaining here to Dach is completely idiotic as such. You are basically bitching to the Police Officer that he wrote you a ticket for illegal parking when you should actually be complaining to the city council to change where you can park.


http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/)
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These are the rules, if you don't like them then bug TPTB themselves to change it, not the Moderators (Who enforce, not create the rules).


Some rules are stupid, life is stupid, a wonderful balance.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 13, 2013, 08:56:42 am
I'm sorry that you didn't understand that the post was mostly facetious. I was pretty sure the ALLCAPS statement was sufficient to indicate that; next time I'll post spoilered text or something.

I did not address my statement to dach, I did not mention him. The comment that you interpreted as a wanton assault on Dach's character, social status, and likely sexual orientation was made without a single thought of him.


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Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on January 16, 2013, 03:48:32 am
I like where this thread is going! +1 Sanderson  :D
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on January 16, 2013, 01:01:57 pm
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What do you expect people to think when you are posting on Dachs admin feedback thread? It seems pretty obvious to me it was pointed at Dach, if you didn't want to address you should have:

1) posted it elsewhere.
2) made it clear in the same post you weren't addressing Dach.

btw, what makes you think Fallens have something against you? At least, I certainly don't  :P
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 18, 2013, 01:58:11 am
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What do you expect people to think when you are posting on Dachs admin feedback thread? It seems pretty obvious to me it was pointed at Dach, if you didn't want to address you should have:

1) posted it elsewhere.
2) made it clear in the same post you weren't addressing Dach.

btw, what makes you think Fallens have something against you? At least, I certainly don't  :P

Hey, you guys can think what you want. I really didn't mean to point that at Dach. I had an opinion that I wanted to express, and I did not feel it was important nor innovative to make my own thread. I probably should have refrained from posting it at all, but I didn't! If I was the type of person to go in the feedback thread to back a clanmate up in calling someone names, do you think I'd give a fuck if you called me out on it? Nah dawg.

@Ramses, I've got NO problem with EU fallen, really. Besides the whole down-vote thing, you've all been nothing but cool dudes in-game when I play in EU during the wee hours of the morning here in Americlapia. I'm an NA player though, so it's natural for me to refer to "fallen" when I mean "NA fallen"

The NA Fallen seem to dislike me because I often talk shit on them when they separate from the team when they comprise 25% of the team. Just impossible to win like that, but I suppose I should let them do it since making them aware of their blame in the team's defeat will not change their actions.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 18, 2013, 03:22:55 am
The NA Fallen seem to dislike me because I often talk shit on them when they separate from the team when they comprise 25% of the team. Just impossible to win like that, but I suppose I should let them do it since making them aware of their blame in the team's defeat will not change their actions.


I regret to inform you that most of us (including me) have no idea who you are.
Everyone talks shit on us and we love it, we do things deliberately so people talk shit on us, your voice is not noteworthy as it is a voice among hundreds of other "shit talkers," sorry. If you were the only one (or even just one of a dozen instead of hundreds) then we might remember you.


I'm very curious though, what "down-vote" thing are you referencing?
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 18, 2013, 03:35:21 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/how-to-discourage-no-risk-playstyles/

Weren't more than 1-2 downvotes until Fallen found the thread, it was actually more like +4, heh. Got 1 fallen downvote and by the end of the day I had 8, then 10. It was pretty cool. Course, if you count the individual downvotes, it's more like 30 or so, but the record is for one post, not an entire thread! So, it seems the record will stand at 10. Not too shabby.

And you know, I don't really talk shit. I don't say things like "LOL FALLEN WORST NA CLAN" or "FALLEN CAMPING AGAIN" or "FALLEN BADS GG"
I'll say something like "please come with the team, we're fucked without you" and I'll get no response or a "lol ur mad" type statement.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 18, 2013, 03:49:12 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/how-to-discourage-no-risk-playstyles/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-balance-discussion/how-to-discourage-no-risk-playstyles/)

Weren't more than 1-2 downvotes until Fallen found the thread, it was actually more like +4, heh. Got 1 fallen downvote and by the end of the day I had 8, then 10. It was pretty cool. Course, if you count the individual downvotes, it's more like 30 or so, but the record is for one post, not an entire thread! So, it seems the record will stand at 10. Not too shabby.
Ah, I see, of those downvotes though we are only about half of them at a glance *shrugs* and one of our members even upvoted you, I do apologize if you think we are the cause of the downvotes in general.
And you know, I don't really talk shit. I don't say things like "LOL FALLEN WORST NA CLAN" or "FALLEN CAMPING AGAIN" or "FALLEN BADS GG"
I'll say something like "please come with the team, we're fucked without you" and I'll get no response or a "lol ur mad" type statement.
I'm sorry to say that I don't "know" as I only said you did due to you posting
The NA Fallen seem to dislike me because I often talk shit on them...
Also, I admit that I type out "u mad" responses on reflex (half the time not even a sensical response), it is literally hotkeyed just as hill has "I'm sorry for teamhitting you!" hot keyed. Please don't take anything we say seriously, most of the time we are just goofing off and firing random responses. The chat is usually filled will trollish remarks, jokes and random comments so we reply accordingly and rarely take anyone seriously ourselves, and truth be told half of us ignore chat at all times hence the "no response" that may come up.We are not singling you out, or have we ever, I do hope we never gave you that impression as we have yet to single anyone out really.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on January 18, 2013, 03:53:22 am
This kind of thread is a normal downvoting playground for all Fallen member, it's nothing personnal against you.

As an overall mindset we are about teamplay and challenge, we adapt the to the game instead of whining about balance in the game.

That's pretty much it!  :wink:

Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 18, 2013, 03:54:45 am
Clarification: Teamplay with ourselves, not "the team."  :wink:
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on January 18, 2013, 05:36:03 am
This'll be my last post on the topic, it's quite a shit place for this discussion (even if it's entirely my fault for the discussion being here, did I tell you I was gay?).

I'm a sperg of the most disgusting variety, I did count up the downvotes on the first post, and there were 10, as far as I counted. Perhaps I made a mistake, I'm often guilty of them. I didn't inspect each name's profile, just put the names I recognized in that count. Anyway, you guys were upset because you couldn't (and still don't?) understand that it wasn't a "NERF ARCHERY" thread! It was a thread made after being frustrated by certain HX/HA players (and archers, but only very few of them are/were capable of the bundle of sticksry I'm upset about) insisting upon playing their hardest and longest when the teams have been taken down to 1v20 or so. Certainly too many enemies to reasonably get valor against. I'm not, nor was I in the least upset about an archer or anyone trying to get a win out of a 1v8 or smaller. It's possible, and it's not even that improbable. I just get really, REALLY irritated when my 1x is milked for 1-4 minutes by ONE SINGLE PERSON who isn't even capable of getting valor. That's all.

Personally, I think archery is, in fact, underpowered in many ways. The arrow weight change was a fucking stupid work-around to an issue that wasn't gigantic. My feelings are that archery looms are far too important to success as that class. I feel the stock ranged weapons should be buffed, and the loomed weapons nerfed slightly, if at all. The most important part is buffing the stock ranged weapons. Absolutely stupid that a new player is forced out of the class he wants to go because to be effective he's got to at least have some sort of loomed projectile/weapon.


On the other topic, I do not get frustrated simply because you folks often stay together on the periphery of the map. Of course, I think it's extremely gay to camp a hill instead of just staying together in the "normal" part of the map (normal is a shitty way to put it, just can't think of other words.). The problem is, the entire team must be together to win unless there are obvious outliers like a gigantic clan stack, or gigantic class stack. The issue lies with the fact that most teams will only press the W key straight out of spawn. They either

a)don't give a fuck about what I ask them to do
b)don't look at chat/don't speak english
c)intentionally do the opposite or at least something quite different than what I ask; the YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO effect.

So, in such a situation, the team that Fallen is on is forced to lose. It's not because you're bad, as most people simplify the issue. They see a bunch of Fallen, and they think "OH, ITS GG LOL FALLEN BADS" That's not it at all. You have plenty of talent and skilled players. When you guys have quite a lot on and you stay with the team, it's fuckin' awesome! And in fact, you've not gone off by yourselves in an irritating fashion in a while, although you've also had fewer active players on battle.

Basically, I wouldn't dislike nor tend to be hostile towards you if you didn't do that INSTANT TEAM GG BECAUSE 8 FALLEN CAMPED A HILL WHILE THE TEAM CHARGED IN. Of course your tactics are superior, and I don't mean that in a "lol fallen tactics" way. Genuinely, you're doing it right. The problem is, if a minority is doing it right while the majority is doing it wrong, the only way to win is to support the retarded minority.


Can you tell I fucking hate having 1x when I'm not playing badly? Gat damn multi system.
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Dach on January 18, 2013, 06:16:42 am
Great post, would read again!  :)

But yeah like tears mentionned in is last post, we're kinda selfish when we're playing together!  :P :lol:
Title: Re: [NA] Fallen_Dach
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 18, 2013, 06:23:17 am
lol, you mad, bro?


He mad.