Is this actually an essay ban?
I didnt really follow up on this one but the last post by Meow sounds more like a permaban.
If this is a legit essay ban... I demand a possibility to vote! :!:
Not sure to be honest.I would do it, if keep names for more then 1 gen:( plA4joy was the only exception.
What still saddens me is that he did not name his main char yet since that seems to be the best way to get some people support him.
I think if he wants to keep playing he has to take a punishment.
I also think a new punishment system needs to be enacted. When people are super bad take that which they love away which are looms, money, and gens. Let him keep a couple things, let him pick when, and one character with an average amount of money.
If he is truly sorry and wants to play he can have a older version of his character back and needs to build up to be where he was before. I think a system like this will help people not be bad because not only do they lose time on the game but they lose that which they worked hard for.
It's like a real life ticket. That shit sucks.
I don't mean to be cruel to you Equello, or whoever you are honestly I don't know, but this mod needs a better punishment system.
All Hail MEOW, the great merciful chairmen.
You will not be missed because we don't know who you are. I vote against unbanning because this guy has no balls to say his real account. He likes to play the mod so much, but he cares even more about renown shit in forums. You can't have both after scamming the shit out of people.Dude, this is my real account.
In contrast to these guys, GTX seems like a moral example.
To the rest of you people out there: If an offer seems too good to be true, it probably is.
Should have been honest from the beginning and we would not have this mess.Yes, now i understand it.
Since he finally agreed on me publishing his char names he actively played with(some of them are old names of his main, some high level alts):
If I missed some feel free to add them yourself.(click to show/hide)
Really excited if he is a known player or not.
Moving to essay now.
If you know the guy in game, please let us know.
Dat names :D I think I remember Ungry_Monkey but I`m not too shure about it.like to think out some stupid names:D
like to think out some stupid names:D
Yeah been wondering where LiiQ has gone. Turns out he never was really gone lol.Well, thx at least for "dont ban, untill its necesarry") And why are you so sure about my scam? Dont you find discrepancy in this story?
Don't remember any of his other chars, though.
Oh and please don't ban him unless you deem it absolutely necesarry. Just reset his main to gen 1 and take the same amount of looms away he wanted to scam off of people. Lets see how he likes it if someone wastes his shit.
I know the nick LiiQ. Skilled 2h but also griefs a lot.Can you tell more about it?
I have my doubts. The main reason is that it took him way too long to come clean with this. Its like he was thinking all this time about a logical story that everybody could buy and make him seem like a misunderstood goodboy.The main reason why it took way long- i lied (my opinion), but you think i lie now too. Well its your choice.
He says that he wasnt going to be that stupid to scam, cause he is fully aware that all scammers get caught. But somehow he wasnt aware enough to make up alot of lies and forget the fact that all his actions and claims can be monitored.
I get that he may have paniced and tried to salvage the bad situation and I also get the language barrier problem in this case. Its just that the dude is a compulsive liar and his current explanation just sounds soo absurd. And the fact he said he cared alot about infamy sounds equally absurd.
I vote for unban that has also heavy consequences. Id suggest taking all his looms, let him keep maximum like 200k worth of stuff and banning 2 of his CD-keys, while letting him keep one, cause even if his absurd story was acctually true, we still went trough the long argument of "those were not my accounts but my friends". If he really likes this game, he should get to play it, but without the current loomed gear and being rich.
I know koptilku_pechku, Kedj_theAnnoymaster and plA4joy. Never knew they were the same guy.why you judge me like you have 100% confidence of my scam? Why?
Anyway, it took you way too long to come clean about what you did, and I feel that after you wasted so much of Meow's time by lying back and forth, you should either get permaban or a very long temp ban and a permanent market ban on all accounts. Keep your looms, but Marketplace is off limits to you, permanently.
-100 respect for this.
why you judge me like you have 100% confidence of my scam? Why?
Come on, you're not fooling anyone. There are millions of excuses for every offence out there, you just cherry picked a few and expected everyone to take your word for it? No offence but I trust Wiltzu's word way more than yours, especially now when you even admit that you lie, a lot.Wiltzu say true, i do too now.
So why should we believe you, a liar(rhetorical, don't answer)?
I vote for permaban.
The main reason why it took way long- i lied (my opinion), but you think i lie now too. Well its your choice.
Believe or not, but i am honest now, and iam honest about assignment of this account. They used to be active on different IPs.
Well what do you expect. You lied way too many times, took too many things for granted. I'd vote for your unban cause I doubt you are some angry ingame kid who gets a boner every time he capslock swearwords and insults. But I have to say I dont trust you either or really belive a word you say. If cant deal in the marketplace I dont see problems.It would be a perma ban for me:(
is not even a good scammer, because that kind of scammers usually do it without getting caught. I am not sure if he is to be permabanned anymore because didn't POOPHAMMER pull a similar bullshit and only got his admin status removed?
That this whole thing is even being discussed is laughable. The guy is a rampant multi-accounter, scammer and a liar. Are we really forgetting all that just because he made a new thread with a bit more "oh oops, i screwd up, let's say lol and 4get about it k?" ?I see you guys united to get me banned.
Are you guys forgetting what Kalp said? He tried to scam Kalp the same fucking way, his +3 loom for +3 and another +1, if he first accepts the +3 for his +1 trade. Sorry, but just THIS attempt proves that this guy knew EXACTLY what he was doing from the start (aka scamming). He of course denies this being true, whereas Kalp has little reason to make this up just to frame him.
Second, he has been lying to us for 2 threads and over 10 pages. It was PROVEN that he is lying, but he still wouldn't give up. He showed no remorse for what he's done and would not reveal his real name. Instead, he now plays the "nice guy" card, trying to get naive people to believe him.
He has multiple accounts that he hoped to use for covering the tracks of his vile scamming. Multiaccounting by itself is bannable.
If this was an honest mistake from his side, there would be absolutely no need for him to lie about any of this, yet he did and on a pretty large scale if I may add. He did not message Wiltzu or admins or told anyone about this, yet he claims he does without providing evidence. Sure looks like trying to hide something rather than solve an issue.
What?they already did, they banned a little kid
You said admins can see all PMs, i sent you several Pms and, described their content.
Please check them out and do something about this little kid..
What?
You said admins can see all PMs, i sent you several Pms and, described their content.
Please check them out and do something about this little kid..
Why don't you show us those PMs?Where will i get it for you? They dont save.
Here are all the pms that were ever sent between us: http://forum.meleegaming.com/global/unban-essay-39319/msg608278/#msg608278Its obviously not all my PMs.
Where will i get it for you? They dont save.Its obviously not all my PMs.
Where will i get it for you? They dont save.Its obviously not all my PMs.youe just full of lies, they dont save? every message i sent or received is saved, heres the first i got.
they already did, they banned a little kidWiltzu visit my essays every day only to type insults in massive letters.
What?(click to show/hide)
You said admins can see all PMs, i sent you several Pms and, described their content.
Please check them out and do something about this little kid..
When did I say that they can see all the forum pms? SHOW THEM.Omg, i cant see the messages because account( i sent them from) not allowed to send Pms..
The only reason why you're still stating that you sent pms to me is cause you know that admins/moderators/devs can't see the pms sent on forums (meow told this to you).
Can you all see? Why would you want this guy to be unbanned, he clearly scammed and lied in 3 fucking threads. The only thing he's sorry is his own lost time, he doesn't show any remorse what so ever for scamming, instead his lying to ppl and calling then kids.
Omg, i cant see the messages because account( i sent them from) not allowed to send Pms..
I will post that PM specially for you if it will be unmted or something..
My Messages--->Read your messages--->from the greily highlighted "Messages" on the left mouse over it and then "Sent Items".That what happen when i press "sent item"
From there you'll see all the messages you've sent, you can see them even if you're muted, post em.
That what happen when i press "sent item"
An Error Has Occurred!
You are not allowed to send personal messages.
All PM's save.No, they don't, I still want him banned and all but the new forum got saving PMs you sent yourself turned off by default...
Hm, Wiltzu suddenly gor silent.. weird.
And by the way i didnt find message where:
And BANG. You tell that something went wrong and you just scammed a guy.
I see you forgot to post it..
-What did I forgot to post?My first words after deal wasnt: dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold? - this was like 2nd PM
Yeah, posted that in one of the other threads, if you never saved your settings on the forum back before the domain switch, your account now has save sent PMs disabled by default.I was quite annoyed not knowing why my sent messages stopped being saved, my memory is shit and I wasn't sure who I'd written what to, I thank you for posting that in the thread.
Sucks but sadly it's nothing we can nail this on.
My first words after deal wasnt: dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold? - this was like 2nd PM
Post first Pm after deal.
And i have to be rewarded as the most generous scammer ever:)!
I have trouble understanding what he did to deserve permaban. Can anyone explain it in few words?he scammed wiltzu, told OVER 9000 lies and got banned, now hes lying some more to get unbanned.
he scammed wiltzu, told OVER 9000 lies and got banned, now hes lying some more to get unbanned.
I understand that he's multiaccounting and that he scammed Wiltzu but I don't understand how? Did Wiltzu gave him items before this guy gave him gold? If so, why people do that these days when everything can be done without any risk?
So you want to say that only one message i sent you was: dont even know what to say... have 1 loompoint now.. Maybe i will get 1 more and give it to you with 300k gold?(click to show/hide)
and then you gone to Meow?
I see. Keep him banned if you ask me.You dont even imagine how feels the guy, who wasnt going to scam, when you judge him like it happened in broad daylight.
He's either dumbass or carefully planned the whole thing. In both cases he got no compassion from me.
Also Vibe is right, multiaccounting alone is enough to justify permaban.
Iam an ordinary player like you.
You dont even imagine how feels the guy, who wasnt going to scam, when you judge him like it happened in broad daylight.
I dont ask to believe me, but why you use to read only prosecutors posts? Please try to get all the facts together and see, that all this story is strange.
Iam not dumbass and i didnt carefully plann the whole thing. Iam an ordinary player like you.
Admins, please look at all my previous trades. I had deal almost every day and was there something about scam? Look at trades i made last week. My warhammer was on market for about 2 weeks, nobody need it.. and i decided to sell it this way. Why is it weird for you?
As you see, english isnt my native language, maybe thats a reason why i cant make you trust me a bit.. I understand what was wrong in my previos posts, but i dont understand what i do wrong now and you still dont want listen to me
And why don`t you tell us the message you sent to Wiltzu, I mean ifI said about its content in my first essay. I asked Wiltzu not to think that i trick him and dont make ban request..
you remember that well you sent him one before, why don`t you tell
us the content?
You ask why people don't trust you?Now i truely repent of my lie, but in fact i gave quit justified reasons of my lies.
Ever heard that one story about some guy who screamed that a wolf was going to eat his sheep (sheep are weak, goats rule) to pull a prank on some villagers, then he does it again, they believe him, then, a wolf comes by and eats all his sheep (Goats could kill wolves any day) and none of the villagers would do shit 'cause he'd tried to trick 'em way to many times and they didn't believe him.
Either way you've multiaccounted (worth a permaban), most likely tried to scam (worth a permaban), and you've lied about the entire thing a series of times (making sure no one would ever believe you).
I said about its content in my first essay. I asked Wiltzu not to think that i trick him and dont make ban request..Now i truely repent of my lie, but in fact i gave quit justified reasons of my lies.
I know it cant acquit me, but you can at least try to understand behaviour of a guy, who never got in such troubles before.
I was confused and in my opinion truth looked rather stupid.
I said to Wiltzu this story, because didnt have nothing better in my mind. I didnt expect that my lies will tern to this..
Basically give all looms back to their owners and ban the guy for life. He still admitted to multiaccounting. Why would Wiltzu lie about the PMs, he has nothing to gain from it.All looms i have now, belong only to me, i earned them by myself.
Mr. XYou have already seen all my alts/main/forum names.
Just ban him for life already. No need to loose sleep over this Meow and reading his long posts. Its pretty clear as time passes he just keeps google translating for more lies. I bet you got more important things to do anyway. Like read "nerf archery and cavalry" Pms :lol:.True, i use google translator, because dont know a lot of words.
May this be one of the most complex ban discussions ever, that really doesnt need any discussion at all? Basically give all looms back to their owners and ban the guy for life. He still admitted to multiaccounting. He wasnt just doubleaccounting he was TRIPLEACCOUNTING!!!!!! Why would Wiltzu lie about the PMs, he has nothing to gain from it.
Than Mr. X, you speak this wierdass crap how you were scared of getting infamy on forums and how you can get him his beloved shield in 2 weeks. Every normal person would have given Wiltzu his sword back and told him let him hold on to it till you can get him the shield you promised. Not hold the sword for 2 weeks on you chars and make him hope for the best.
Just ban him for life already. No need to loose sleep over this Meow and reading his long posts. Its pretty clear as time passes he just keeps google translating for more lies. I bet you got more important things to do anyway. Like read "nerf archery and cavalry" Pms :lol:.
Man, google translate is good these days.i use it to translate single words, not whole sentence:)
Don't think I had trouble understanding a single line in all these posts.
I will do some checks tomorrow so I know on which accounts his looms are right now, then decide on how this will go.