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Title: The War Z
Post by: Stabby_Dave on July 25, 2012, 02:34:29 pm
For anyone who hasnt heard about this yet, it seems like a less hardcore version of DayZ but still looks pretty interesting

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/07/19/the-war-z-a-new-zombie-survival-experience?page=3



You can sign up for the beta sometime this summer too here: http://thewarz.com/
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: [ptx] on July 25, 2012, 03:03:14 pm
Too many betas >_<
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on July 25, 2012, 03:08:22 pm
CB this summer already? Seems they're further than I thought.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Spleen on July 26, 2012, 05:57:35 pm
I guess that proves their "we had the idea before dayz, but ofc we modified alot of stuff after it picked up the hype"
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Taser on July 27, 2012, 12:56:08 pm
Sweet. Looks cool. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on July 27, 2012, 06:46:25 pm
Release date is meant to be in fall. That means they either had the idea before Dayz came about, or they were developing something similarish and suddenly changed tack when the success of Dayz became apparent.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Oberyn on July 28, 2012, 06:45:17 pm
They're not coy about it
Quote
"So short answer – while we began developing our game before DayZ, we've been encouraged by fact that DayZ has become so popular. And yes, of course some of our latest design decisions were influenced by the DayZ community forums."
They were making an open map multiplayer zombie survival game and DayZ explodes out of nowhere, frankly they'd be dumb not to take "inspiration" from it. And they have a rather sizeable headstart on whatever Rocket is working on.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Stabby_Dave on July 29, 2012, 10:40:04 am
They're not coy about it  They were making an open map multiplayer zombie survival game and DayZ explodes out of nowhere, frankly they'd be dumb not to take "inspiration" from it. And they have a rather sizeable headstart on whatever Rocket is working on.

This seems like it will be be a tad more mass-market too, with the non-perma death mode.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: cmp on July 29, 2012, 03:23:10 pm
I bet it'll be the 523729th carbon copy MMORPG, using DayZ' popularity to get more sheeple to sign up.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Spleen on July 30, 2012, 06:30:05 pm
well, atleast we wont have to deal with social gaming for much longer if you look at zyngas numbers...
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tor! on August 02, 2012, 06:37:52 am
I actually have to admit - this looks pretty promising.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Havoco on August 04, 2012, 03:03:45 am
Meh. All that sounds ok, but I wouldn't buy it. What I wish dayz or this game would do is add some sort of random events. Like having a military convoy come through a large city. If u helped the convoy get through the area, you'd get a weapon or rare supply or something. If you don't help them... Well, now u got a bunch of zombies carrying guns.

Something like that.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Xant on August 04, 2012, 01:07:48 pm
It isn't hard to make a game sound promising. Reality is often different.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on September 06, 2012, 09:32:18 am
Lot's of info here: http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?603-The-War-Z-FAQ-Official-Developer-Quotes

Supposedly closed beta soon.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on September 20, 2012, 10:35:04 am
New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzfRy_BJLHs&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: cmp on September 20, 2012, 12:48:23 pm
Did they switch to CryEngine or they just shamelessly copied the weapon customization screen from Crysis?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Christo on September 20, 2012, 04:46:15 pm
Did they switch to CryEngine or they just shamelessly copied the weapon customization screen from Crysis?

Wow, that's a very blatant copy. o.ó
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Beauchamp on September 20, 2012, 08:24:12 pm
looks good, the guy haven't broken his leg walking in the wood, also his items from backpack didn't disappear and changing weapons takes less than 2 minutes.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on September 26, 2012, 10:31:47 am


Beta supposedly in October.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 04, 2012, 10:20:26 am
For preorders:

Alpha 15 October
Beta 30 October

https://account.thewarz.com/preorder/preorder.html


also, another vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1WqbytPpWZo#!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 04, 2012, 12:23:19 pm
Looks like it's coming along quite nicely.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 05, 2012, 09:40:22 am
First PvP vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l5eS5q1bQW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iu0JHSQ_ZU4#!

Also here's a city screen:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 12, 2012, 06:22:46 am
Totally expected that guy to "test" his new crossbow.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Mammonist on October 12, 2012, 11:09:35 am
All that worries me is 'in game currency'. I hope it's not one of those 'pay to win' things.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 12, 2012, 11:22:09 am
All that worries me is 'in game currency'. I hope it's not one of those 'pay to win' things.

They said it won't be, mostly cosmetic stuff in the shop.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 13, 2012, 01:19:28 am
They said it won't be, mostly cosmetic stuff in the shop.

Anyone actually playing yet?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 13, 2012, 01:29:09 am
Anyone actually playing yet?

Public access (alpha) starts this monday
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 13, 2012, 02:54:09 am
Wow alot of info here http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?603-The-War-Z-Extended-F-A-Q


Also visitors can't see pics , please register or login


That last one looks like Sasha Grey to anyone else?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 14, 2012, 12:04:16 am
Having a cash shop in a game where you lose everything when you die is a terrible incentive. This is the first cash shop I've seen that really just throws your money away. I wish preordering gave you something more permanent than $15 worth of trash.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on October 14, 2012, 12:17:36 pm
Even during a zombie apocalypse, videogame girls gotta have makeup, earrings and a 2 hour hairdressing.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 15, 2012, 12:26:42 pm
NO PREDOWNLOAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 15, 2012, 12:33:30 pm
nope sadly not
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 15, 2012, 01:04:27 pm
Well any body want to play together when we can play?   
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Mayzer on October 15, 2012, 11:45:50 pm
I got into the beta! 15 minutes!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 16, 2012, 12:06:07 am
Download link is dead. That can only mean somethings happening  :|
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 16, 2012, 01:19:45 am
Website is getting hit with too much traffic due to everyone F5ing the download page at the same time. They put this link on the game's Facebook page:

http://arktos-icdn.pandonetworks.com/WarZ_WebSetup.exe

GO GO GO
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 16, 2012, 01:40:30 am
Downloading CRRRAAAAZY slow.   
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 16, 2012, 01:43:27 am
Yep! Think it will take me at least 2 hours at this point.

They said that you lose whatever is in your backpack when you die. This would imply that you don't lose whatever you're holding, or your clothing, but I doubt that's the case. Really interested to find out, but not exactly in a hurry to die.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 16, 2012, 01:50:14 am
Yep! Think it will take me at least 2 hours at this point.


Me too!


*goddamn Gif doesn't work.*  Awkward_high_five.gif  you get the idea.



***Link to offical forums with a torrent DL link. http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?21878-The-War-Z-All-Game-Files-Torrent-v-0-8-0-2-v1-1-PLEASE-SEED!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 16, 2012, 06:43:52 pm
Don't feel like playing until they fix thirst. My character died during 1 in-game night, and I wasn't sprinting. That is way too fast. I even started killing people just in the hopes that they had something to drink.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: GreasySausageSandwhich on October 16, 2012, 08:40:03 pm
Other than bugs, loot balancing, and stability I like what I've played so far.  Bashing someone's head in with a flashlight is funny to me.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 16, 2012, 09:03:19 pm
It's an Alpha.

Some people, specialle some in the WarZ forum should understand what an Alpha is before complaining about how much money they paid for it.

I for myself like it already, this "Zombiefeeling" is better than in DayZ imo.

It may have some bugs, but they will be fixed before the full version is out.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 16, 2012, 09:33:36 pm
You should have seen the shit storm on their fb page when the download link didn't come on at exactly 3pm. It was as if no one there had ever experienced an alpha or beta release before and were stamping their feet and hissing about demanding money back because the website was over loaded.

Funny that none of them noticed that the website simply said 'Check back here after 3pm gmt-8'. It didn't say it would actually release the link at 3pm  :|
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tor! on October 16, 2012, 10:19:34 pm
Found an assault cuirass. Went to test if it helped against zombies, since the description said "Protection gear level 2" or something. I died because it didnt help at all  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 17, 2012, 02:59:02 am
Found an assault cuirass. Went to test if it helped against zombies, since the description said "Protection gear level 2" or something. I died because it didnt help at all  :mrgreen:

HAHA!  That's a shame man, well submit as a bug who knows.  But it should say if its only ballistic protection/Zombie proof.   Although if it stops bullets it should stop zombies.



Also I really like your use of the word cuirass.  +1
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 17, 2012, 07:58:31 am
How is the game though?
I saw people are complaining that the full map is actually really small (looking at "world map" and judging distances/walking times). So whats your estimate on the size of the map?

Refering to this:
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?26811-Map-seems-smaller-than-expected
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?26506-Map-isnt-big-enough-%28not-talking-about-30-alpha-scale-but-100-%29
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 17, 2012, 09:22:31 am
Well, its smaller, sure. But in my opinion it has more of those special places, most because of many enterable houses.

They also said that they will upgrade the player count/server as soon as they remove more invisible walls from the map.
Highest was 270 or 240 players I believe, that's actually a bit too much I believe.

Right now, on the little part of the map, when spawning, I meet players every 3 minutes, when I go north or somewhere where aren't spawns, I sometimes see players but more likely never.

Future maps will also probably get bigger.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2012, 09:47:41 am
Can someone tell me like the biggest differences from Day Z overall? Would like to know what's different.

Pros and Cons.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tor! on October 17, 2012, 04:44:35 pm
TLDR;

first day; nothing worked.
second day: patch fixed my problems, teamed up with Cooties, quality of gaming session that night was.. Awesome. We put on same helmets to recognise eachother (before we had white masks), and delved into a really big city, that looked amazing and I was actually tensing up my shoulders just from sneaking around there.   :mrgreen:

Animations look a bit stiff sometimes, and the invisible zombie has eaten me atleast once. It has it quirks, but it is still awesome.

Edit to Vibe:

My impression is that map is slightly smaller, but alot more interesting. City alone will take you hours  :)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 17, 2012, 05:27:10 pm
Yeah it's not actually that much smaller though according to this:

'160-170km of playable terrain comparing to 225 sql km of Chernarus (keep in mind that large chunk of chernarus map is a sea)'

Source:
http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?603-The-War-Z-Extended-F-A-Q

Animations look a bit stiff sometimes, and the invisible zombie has eaten me atleast once. It has it quirks, but it is still awesome.

Yeah think I read in that same thread that animations are on their to-do-list of fixing things.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Beauchamp on October 18, 2012, 01:53:36 am
so overall its a bit more arcadish dayZ with way more interesting map and way less bugs and no arma like UI from early 60s? are zombies any threat there? or what is the threat aside from players. are guns rare? (at least good ones). can u hide, camp, use terrain to your advantage effectively in that game like in dayZ?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tor! on October 18, 2012, 02:48:35 am
Played for roughly 10 hours I guess. Found an beretta, shotgun and scar. Not found any kind of ammo yet, nor an axe  :cry:

Zombies are tough, kill you in 4 hits. If you get more than three after you when you only have a melee weapon (and no place to climb or hide) you better run  8-)

I've lost count of the zombie trains I've seen so far. Players are still the biggest threat though. We were stalked by some guy with a pistol, ran on a roof and set an ambush with hammers on top of the staircase. Great success!  :)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 18, 2012, 08:14:17 am
I hope and assume the engine is way better than Arma's poorly optimized one?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 09:01:58 am
I hope and assume the engine is way better than Arma's poorly optimized one?

That it supposedly is. I'm still turned off by all the negative posts of the map being too small. I mean this is supposed to be an MMO, up to 250 player and the full map size is about 1/15 of Chernarus, they say... and map size is not something they can easily improve from alpha-beta/release.

I think I'm going to hold my money on this one for now. Not to mention DayZ standalone is out soon-ish.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: GreasySausageSandwhich on October 18, 2012, 09:10:24 am
They only have 30% of the map opened right now and it feels just a bit smaller than the south coast of the Chernarus map with the cities and all that.

Other than bugs I'm enjoying it!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 18, 2012, 09:18:37 am
Was in that big city yesterday, heard shots in that one big house which is enterable, went in and needed to kill 2 Zombies with my Pistol, up there I found a AK74 M , Mossberg and other stuff, sadly no ammo. Probably a player who got killed by this 2 zombies.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 18, 2012, 09:28:05 am
That it supposedly is. I'm still turned off by all the negative posts of the map being too small. I mean this is supposed to be an MMO, up to 250 player and the full map size is about 1/15 of Chernarus, they say... and map size is not something they can easily improve from alpha-beta/release.

I think I'm going to hold my money on this one for now. Not to mention DayZ standalone is out soon-ish.

But that standalone will be using horriblé Arma engine won't it? I'll pass.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 09:32:30 am
But that standalone will be using horriblé Arma engine won't it? I'll pass.

A variation of it, without the bugs and hacker shit supposedly. Think it's going to be awesome once they get rid of all the silly bugs and hackers and fix up zombie pathing/bugs (which is top priority for them). And of course redone Chernarus map.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 18, 2012, 09:40:23 am
They are using chernarus as a map again?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 09:47:07 am
They are using chernarus as a map again?

Yes, but they are making all the buildings enterable and completely reworking loot spawns.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 18, 2012, 09:49:52 am
Yes, but they are making all the buildings enterable and completely reworking loot spawns.

Sounds gay. Can't we get some new place? Get like eh....MIAMI or LA. Gimme some sun when it's the apocalypse!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 10:03:18 am
If you check this video (before it gets taken down): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVZUB92nVVU

You can see he opens the world map at 3:06. There you can also see the town that he comes by at 9:00 (with a logout in between). That means that distance took him about 6 minutes. That distance is about 1/5th of the distance from south border to north border (measured using my fingers), meaning it takes about 30 minutes of walking to get from south to north of the whole map.

This is really really little compared to how much it takes to trek/run from south to north on Chernarus map (never did the full distance myself but I believe it's about 3-4 hours of running).
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 18, 2012, 10:16:43 am
All depends on the engine atleast imo. If the engine is shitty fuck that the map could be an exact copy of the world map.

If the engine is good  and properly optimized i could live with a slightly smaller map.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 10:27:57 am
All depends on the engine atleast imo. If the engine is shitty fuck that the map could be an exact copy of the world map.

If the engine is good  and properly optimized i could live with a slightly smaller map.

I'm just saying. I've been following the game for a while but reading the forums after alpha is out is putting me further and further away from liking WarZ. I don't have a personal vendetta against it, neither am I a DayZ fanboi.

There's also one major thing, they repeatedly stated "ammo will be very hard to find", and people are saying it really is hard to find. And then there's the cash shop that sells unlimited ammo (not to mention food/water as well lol). :?

Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 18, 2012, 10:30:14 am

There's also one major thing, they repeatedly stated "ammo will be very hard to find", and people are saying it really is hard to find. And then there's the cash shop that sells unlimited ammo. :?

Prices are realllly high there. I believe it was 75000 $ for a Stanag C-Mag and so on. Isn't really valuable.

$ = Ingame Money, not sure if you can change the Gold Coins for $. I didnt find a single $ in the gameworld yet, while others found 100 or 200 in a single place.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 10:31:59 am
Prices are realllly high there. I believe it was 75000 $ for a Stanag C-Mag and so on. Isn't really valuable.

$ = Ingame Money, not sure if you can change the Gold Coins for $. I didnt find a single $ in the gameworld yet, while others found 100 or 200 in a single place.

You can buy all those with real word money that's the problem.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 18, 2012, 10:33:24 am
Well, lets hope then its like: 1€/$ = 10 GoldCoins = 100$ for each GC.

(THough, it wont. I bought the Pioneer version and got 2139 GC with it already)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 10:36:30 am
Well, lets hope then its like: 1€/$ = 10 GoldCoins = 100$ for each GC.

(THough, it wont. I bought the Pioneer version and got 2139 GC with it already)

Even if it were more expensive, some people ('s parents) have way too much money. I've played quite a few pay2win MMO's. There's an overabundance of kids with rich parents in each of those games, trust me. I've even talked to a few of those in my time of Conquer Online, they spent 250$ per month to buy shit off the cash shop.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 18, 2012, 12:06:33 pm
If you check this video (before it gets taken down): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVZUB92nVVU

You can see he opens the world map at 3:06. There you can also see the town that he comes by at 9:00 (with a logout in between). That means that distance took him about 6 minutes. That distance is about 1/5th of the distance from south border to north border (measured using my fingers), meaning it takes about 30 minutes of walking to get from south to north of the whole map.

This is really really little compared to how much it takes to trek/run from south to north on Chernarus map (never did the full distance myself but I believe it's about 3-4 hours of running).

Private video so can't watch it. But a straight run across the flatter parts of chernarus doesn't actually take that long. It's just mind numbingly boring so it feels like it does. Most people in dayz don't do a straight run either, they zig zag through terrain and towns so it takes a long time. But I've run a straight run from NW Airfield along some of the flatter terrain to Cherno, even stopping to kill some stuff and it only took me about 40 mins if I remember. I was rushing back to meet people who just spawned so I had to be fast. Now NW Airfield isn't as north as you can go...but it's still pretty big distance. I know for a fact as well it only takes about 10 minutes to run the flat distance from Cherno to Elektro if you don't stop. If that forum quote I posted is right the WarZ map is 3/4 of the size of Chernarus. Also have to take into account running speeds ect. If running speed is higher in WarZ then naturally it takes less time. And if GreasySausage is right then the only reason people are complaining is because only 30% is open.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 18, 2012, 12:35:56 pm
Private video so can't watch it. But a straight run across the flatter parts of chernarus doesn't actually take that long. It's just mind numbingly boring so it feels like it does. Most people in dayz don't do a straight run either, they zig zag through terrain and towns so it takes a long time. But I've run a straight run from NW Airfield along some of the flatter terrain to Cherno, even stopping to kill some stuff and it only took me about 40 mins if I remember. I was rushing back to meet people who just spawned so I had to be fast. Now NW Airfield isn't as north as you can go...but it's still pretty big distance. I know for a fact as well it only takes about 10 minutes to run the flat distance from Cherno to Elektro if you don't stop. If that forum quote I posted is right the WarZ map is 3/4 of the size of Chernarus. Also have to take into account running speeds ect. If running speed is higher in WarZ then naturally it takes less time. And if GreasySausage is right then the only reason people are complaining is because only 30% is open.

No, those that are complaining about it are complaining about the full size when you open your map, not the 30% that is availible right now.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on October 18, 2012, 02:07:14 pm
Well regardless, the lack of ammo is the most worrying sign for me. That rather suggests they want people to buy it on the marketplace, making it pay2win despite what they say. Most of the complaints I can see seem to be about that. Thread after thread on the fact that weapons are very common, but ammo is incredibly rare.

Another annoying one is the removal of foliage on low graphics settings. On a game which will inevitably include pvp in an mmo environment you just can't allow that.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tor! on October 18, 2012, 04:50:34 pm
Smaller map, but the points of interest are many, many more. DayZ choosing Chernarus map again was a bad call, way to long and unecessary walks between shit.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Butan on October 19, 2012, 03:57:53 am
Thread after thread on the fact that weapons are very common, but ammo is incredibly rare.

Sparse ammo is the shit in those kind of games.

Loot the people carrying ammo bough on real money if you really cant find some!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Teeth on October 19, 2012, 02:06:07 pm
This is really really little compared to how much it takes to trek/run from south to north on Chernarus map (never did the full distance myself but I believe it's about 3-4 hours of running).
No, no, no, nothing like that. To Stary Sobor it's about 25 minutes from the coast. Doing that twice brings you at the height of krasnostav, from there on out there is little to the map then trees. Probably about an hour and 15 minutes to the complete edge and an hour to the last point of interest. You run about 18 km/h though, which is something to keep in mind when comparing, might be a bit slower in WarZ, cause that is pretty fast.

But that standalone will be using horriblé Arma engine won't it? I'll pass.
Well, being able to support a 225 km without loading times, with 600 zombies, 50 players, loot spawns, zombie spawns, day/night cycle, excellent light effects, weather, physics and yet looking quite beautiful at times, I would not call that a horrible engine. Actually because it was based on Arma was the reason it was so interesting, it had this realistic feel to it and the enormous size of the map made it even more awesome.

It has its quirks, but I'm eager to see what they can do with an updated version of it that is actually aimed at making a zombie game.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Beauchamp on October 19, 2012, 02:40:16 pm
vibe: but here u can always pwn the rich kid, take all his ammo and profit, or not?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 19, 2012, 03:27:29 pm
No, no, no, nothing like that. To Stary Sobor it's about 25 minutes from the coast. Doing that twice brings you at the height of krasnostav, from there on out there is little to the map then trees. Probably about an hour and 15 minutes to the complete edge and an hour to the last point of interest. You run about 18 km/h though, which is something to keep in mind when comparing, might be a bit slower in WarZ, cause that is pretty fast.
Well, being able to support a 225 km without loading times, with 600 zombies, 50 players, loot spawns, zombie spawns, day/night cycle, excellent light effects, weather, physics and yet looking quite beautiful at times, I would not call that a horrible engine. Actually because it was based on Arma was the reason it was so interesting, it had this realistic feel to it and the enormous size of the map made it even more awesome.

It has its quirks, but I'm eager to see what they can do with an updated version of it that is actually aimed at making a zombie game.

Everything EXCEPT the big map without loading times exists in other games. And to be quite frank if it's a fun game i could live with some loading times here and there.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Teeth on October 19, 2012, 03:33:38 pm
Everything EXCEPT the big map without loading times exists in other games. And to be quite frank if it's a fun game i could live with some loading times here and there.
:?

How'd you imagine that would even work?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: LordBerenger on October 19, 2012, 03:38:14 pm
:?

How'd you imagine that would even work?

Magic? I dnno
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 24, 2012, 03:06:50 pm
lulz, read the quoted Sergey Titov post, not the first one

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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Radament on October 24, 2012, 03:58:56 pm
lol @ slimes , btw i'm really liking this game , even if i'm a loner now .
i just don't like this pk system (everyone killing me when i'm completely naked) , you can't trust anyone , zombies are better .
bandits are fine for me but they need to implement a real penalty system (if you want to be a bandit you must have a hard life).
ammo are inesistent , hunger lvl is soo fast now and food is rare to find , thirst is ok.
i'm playing hardcore and ...it's really hard to survive , you just need to be extremly careful when you approach a city.
waiting for the beta so my friends can play too.

ps: if you see a radament in the server , make a whistle , i'm always happy to cooperate.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on October 24, 2012, 06:55:47 pm
Just went to play a bit, spawned near the biggest city, got in there and went on some of these little houses where I found 3 Medium Backpacks, 2 Mauser-Snipers without Ammo and a Saiga with 10 ammo.

And other stuff, Medic, 30 Water and so on.

Seems like a sniper was bored and just killed for fun.

Btw what really stupid is in that game, if you get shot at, you cant really know until you get hit. The weapon/bullet sounds are always the same, you don't even hear them flying near you like in ArmA/DayZ, I hope they change that or its just a bug.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on October 24, 2012, 07:28:31 pm
Just went to play a bit, spawned near the biggest city, got in there and went on some of these little houses where I found 3 Medium Backpacks, 2 Mauser-Snipers without Ammo and a Saiga with 10 ammo.

And other stuff, Medic, 30 Water and so on.

Seems like a sniper was bored and just killed for fun.

Btw what really stupid is in that game, if you get shot at, you cant really know until you get hit. The weapon/bullet sounds are always the same, you don't even hear them flying near you like in ArmA/DayZ, I hope they change that or its just a bug.

Agreed. Last night I couldn't hear someone trying to hammer in the back of my skull until the had killed me.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on October 24, 2012, 07:42:07 pm
I found a sweet little raiding spot that always has hats/water/SHIT LOADS OF FLASHLIGHTS the only real issue is that no food.  I've starved to death many times.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on October 24, 2012, 08:22:30 pm
I found a sweet little raiding spot that always has hats/water/SHIT LOADS OF FLASHLIGHTS the only real issue is that no food.  I've starved to death many times.

I frequently find 20+ 375ml water bottles, flashlights/hammers, 10+ chemlights but only 2 or 3 chocolate/granola bars and very rarely an other kind of food.

Goddamn fatties.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on October 25, 2012, 03:15:52 pm
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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Butan on October 25, 2012, 06:14:35 pm
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Those bi'! def ready
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on October 25, 2012, 09:08:46 pm
I'm jelly of the body armor. All I can find are black M9's and medkits/antibiotics.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on October 29, 2012, 11:20:51 am
so anyone played it?

is it utter shit as predicted?

all the videos looked so scripted and canned I half expected the game to be a complete scam.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on October 30, 2012, 07:23:23 am
It's basically DayZ with rare weapons/ammo and easier zombies at this point.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 30, 2012, 07:58:27 am
It's basically DayZ with rare weapons/ammo and easier zombies at this point.

If you take out the fact that they're both zombie survival games, they're actually very different games.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Gristle on October 30, 2012, 06:59:54 pm
If you take out the fact that they're both zombie survival games, they're actually very different games.

Explain how?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on October 30, 2012, 09:21:22 pm
Explain how?

Well the major difference that I see is the fact that one is more of a tactical shooter and the other is more actiony/CoD-y. This combined with smaller map makes WarZ a faster paced game. Then there's minor stuff like DayZ has vehicles, temperature, diseases, etc.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on October 31, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
Well the major difference that I see is the fact that one is more of a tactical shooter and the other is more actiony/CoD-y. This combined with smaller map makes WarZ a faster paced game. Then there's minor stuff like DayZ has vehicles, temperature, diseases, etc.

They're really not that different though. Sure WarZ lacks temp/disease/vehicles and has a smaller map right now, but the dev team has stated that temp/virus/bigger map are coming and vehicles are still a possibility. In terms of play experience they're very much the same right now too, and with the way that the WarZ community is developing it's starting to feel like DayZ. Yes the engines are different and DayZ will probably always be more of a tactical-sim game than WarZ, but because so many DayZ players have bought early access to WarZ the game play is very similar, on top of the natural similarities between the two games.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: karasu on November 01, 2012, 12:48:29 am
PAAAATCH!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on November 01, 2012, 01:09:48 am
PAAAATCH!

Any patchnotes? Forgot forum login.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: karasu on November 01, 2012, 01:45:09 am
New Zombies!
Special Halloween Zombies
Zombie attack distance reduced slightly
Zombie damage reduced
Increased the pick up range for items to fix an issue with items on top shelves
Fixed bug with showing undefined in options when switching to custom settings
Melee detection radius lowered.
Text now informs you if you were killed by a Zombie or Player
Fixed zombie ragdoll affects.
Optimized grass on low quality settings
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 01, 2012, 01:49:15 am
Also more money drop. Or just by killing new zombies, not sure.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on November 01, 2012, 02:39:47 am
Just got my access (I was cheap so only spent £18 and got my access today). Will try it tomorrow and see what I think :)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 01, 2012, 03:38:11 am
Finally able to gather money? Easier just to poach scavengers.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on November 01, 2012, 04:04:25 am
Ok played a few hours with the guest pass, here's my impressions:

+ graphics are nice
+ runs smoothly with occasional fps lags
+ melee and shooting mechanics are ok
+ previous zombie damage was too much, now it's ok
+ didn't encounter many bugs

- world/map feels extremely boring
- moving around is bloody frustrating, the walk speed is very slow, I guess they wanted to achieve that the world feels bigger if you move slow but it just feels dumb
- buildings are mostly empty, no furniture, very dull
- map is small
- lots of cliffs forcing you into linear paths when traveling the map
- absolutely not enough enterable buildings and loot (the west big city has like zero enterable buildings)
- not enough ammo
- already hacks.. (saw people flying and shooting)
- there is no way this game isn't going to turn into a deathmatch with even 40 people on one server (and they have been promising 200 players per server because it is an "MMO")
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 02, 2012, 02:00:39 pm
I have played DayZ and WarZ for many, many, many hours. It hits home besides MnB Style gaming.

WarZ at this point is better.
WarZ isn't as arcad-y as some people may suggest.
DayZ zombies and map had quite a bit of bugs due to the fact of hard coded ARMA II.
DayZ this time around will be a standalone.
The major factor (IMO) that sways people from DayZ and WarZ is the zombies.
       WarZ zombies walk and trot a little with rag doll effects, that actually die from melee attacks. (but only to the head of course.)
       DayZ zombies run like Olympic athletes, hard coded I believe, and melee-ing them meant 50% of the time you die.
       Zombies in DayZ spot you even when you're prone, super far away.
       WarZ allows for quite a closer engagement. (Easier to sneak around.)
WarZ allows for a stronghold server that will allow you to build fortifications or farm food. Zombies will be on this server, the map will be smaller, if you want people to join you can let them. (these maps do not spawn weapons or anything that would make it so you can farm top tier equipment.)
Hacks are in every game. Deal with it.
WarZ has very active devs.
WarZ will offer "events," missions, and NPC's.
The map is fucking big just not as big as DayZ's.
WarZ's landscape and graphics are great! (Landscapes based on actual places. First map, Colorado. Not quite sure of the following maps although I did hear the next was going to be New York, but they aren't even finished with the first map.)
WarZ is less buggy overall.
WarZ move speed is pretty slow, and you have stamina for sprinting. (Remember this is alpha-beta.)

There are many differences, but truly you can't even compare at this point, because to my knowledge DayZ isn't even in standalone alpha yet, and WarZ's beta was just released.

At this point. WarZ is a much easier game to enjoy.

Also to clear up some chatter, in WarZ when you have currency or real cash monies, you CANNOT buy anything that makes your game easier. You can only buy visual effects (masks, flares, chem lights) and melee weapons, but again this is alpha-beta and the final release may be different.

Honestly, the game is fucking great, just try it out.
Also, don't trust anybody ever. Be very cautious. xD
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 03, 2012, 02:56:03 pm
Just had a 1 vs 4 "Duel".

Was just waiting for a friend in a village near that new Hill Ranch and heard shots coming from there. Then gave my friend 2 Mossbergs which I just found in that nameless village, had a M4 Semi myself.

Then we went to the Ranch, saw 2 players with weapons running from zombies, friend shot at them with a Mossberg, they shot back with Mossberg, not very smart when youre like 100m apart from each other. :mrgreen:

Friend got killed first, when I realised.. that arent 2 players, there are 4.
They tried to surround me and I killed the first one with my last shots, took one of the mossbergs from my friend and killed someone behind me who tried to kill me with 5 shots of a mossberg, not sure but he seemed to be not so good at aiming, since he was just 5m away from me.

Well, shot one time with Mossberg, hes down, then turned around, shot again and another guy was down.

Last guy was the "hardest" then, he tried to shoot me from like 50 meteres away with a Mossberg, I myself took a M16/m4 (not sure what it was) from one of the bodies and killed him then.

It ended by me having 3 M16/M4 Semi, some full Mossbergs, something around 60 water and bandages and some pistols.


Well, and then went to the safe zone, was 50m infront of it, boom, sniper, dead.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 03, 2012, 03:12:45 pm
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GF.

Lol. That shit is gonna happen. I looted all kinds of shit, spawned in on a Character that never died, I enjoy seeing his stats knowing it was one life. Had a Military M4, with Cmag attachment, tons of health supplies, water and food, binocs, extra ammo, pistol with extra ammo... the works. ( Fully Geared. ) Walked out of the Safe Zone, shot in the back almost instantly.

AFAIK they are working on a fix for the Safe Zone camping. I myself always take the long way around to the safe zones and come in from the back. I learned my lesson. Haven't been killed near it since.

Game is fucking awesome though. I can't wait till they release the Skill Tree.
For anyone that doesn't know... The skill tree has many different options. You gain experience while playing idk exactly how, but you do not gain levels or anything. The skill tree WILL NOT have skills that make your gun shoot faster, or do more damage, and it wont have skills that give you more health or make you godlike. The skill tree is for realistic traits. Such as, sprint lasting longer, able to reload slightly faster, bandages work a little better and so on. Nothing that is game breaking.

WarZ is great. I truly love it.

And for anyone that says the map is small, you're kind of right. It's not really that small, and they are making more than one map, so it's not the same map with the same spawn locations and the same everything. Next map they are making I believe to be New York. xD where I live.



EDIT: Also one last thing. WarZ is not a knock off of DayZ. The progress and announcements alone prove that it was in development before DayZ, but I'm sure because of DayZ's success it may have, and probably was altered in some way to accommodate the influx of players that DayZ had. Why wouldn't they? Do you blame them?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 03, 2012, 10:17:06 pm
I played for a bit today using Noobles guest pass and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I plan on playing with him later tonight but this morning I had a positive experience which made it to be pretty fun.

I was walking around as I spawned with nothing and came up to the mini-town next to Campos?. I was searching through collecting stuff that was "meh" and came across a guy. I asked him if he was friendly and he said yes, so I gave him my 9mm ammo and he gave me food in exchange since I needed some and had no use for the ammo at that point. Not far off I asked how to turn my flashlight off and some nice dude tells me how. About 3 minutes later I see him typing in chat "If you're in the Police Station are you friendly?" He got no response so he killed the fool. About 1 minute after I asked him if that was him who shot and he said yes. He then told me to come over to the Police Station and gave me a shotgun with about 16 shots, a hammer and w/e he didn't want from the corpse he just killed. He then left and told me good luck.

Since I had almost nothing until that point I didn't really care if anyone killed me so I was being overly friendly to people I met. Now that I have something going for myself I plan on shooting first and asking questions later. I may pick the game up next week, well see.

As for the Day-Z/War-Z comparison I would have to say I like War-Z WAY BETTER than Day-Z for the SOLE REASON THAT ZOMBIES DON'T FUCKING TELEPORT. I played Day-Z for about 5-6 hours REALLY trying to get into it and just couldn't do it because the engine and zombies were fucking shit. I enjoyed the concept of a zombie survival which caught my interest in War-Z but I heard a bunch of negative comments about it and lost my attention until I got this guest pass from Noodles. The early video's they posted didn't bring them any justice either as it looked shit.

All in all, I like it so far and depending on how the session me and noodles have tonight will depend on whether or not I purchase the game.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 03, 2012, 11:34:11 pm
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werd up.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 04, 2012, 02:26:00 am
Yeah, the goddamn zombies in DayZ were what ruined it for me. The way they were faster than a living person whose body wasn't decaying was bullshit.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 04, 2012, 03:18:42 am
my tldr version on the topic

Dayz more realistic but more painful to get started off the ground.

Warz more playable and alot easier to group up and PVP.


FINAL verdict? Whoever finishes and realease a real zombie survival game will be the winner. for now tie.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 04, 2012, 09:34:27 am
wait till day z stand alone comes out and then compare.

war Z is looking way better than I expected. But I really wish I joined the beta when it was free, because im not going to give them money for a beta of a pay to win game.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 04, 2012, 05:39:38 pm
I would really like a group feature, or at least a friends list.  Either or.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 04, 2012, 05:43:14 pm
its on their to do list
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 04, 2012, 05:53:41 pm
I would really like a group feature, or at least a friends list.  Either or.

Will be added in a week or so.

wait till day z stand alone comes out and then compare.

war Z is looking way better than I expected. But I really wish I joined the beta when it was free, because im not going to give them money for a beta of a pay to win game.
I would really like a group feature, or at least a friends list.  Either or.

It's not pay to win. You can't buy guns or backpacks or anything like that.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 04, 2012, 11:02:19 pm
Delightful.

I've gotten to the point where if I see a player with a gun and skull mask, I just eat/drink everything so when I die he gets nothing, and I run around ALOT so they waste much ammo.   Fuck those guys.  I NEVER find gun/ammo,  right now I've got something like 40 shotgun shells, an m-4 and a bunch of medic packs and water.  I had a pistol but haven't found any ammo for it ever, and same fo the m-4 if i could just find a siaga I'd be golden.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 04, 2012, 11:50:38 pm
find me on ts i can help u out with that gun problem.

ill be on around midnight


Having the global chest thingy makes playing the game so much easier and less stressful than Dayz. They just need to make that map big!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 05, 2012, 12:12:59 am
find me on ts i can help u out with that gun problem.

ill be on around midnight


Having the global chest thingy makes playing the game so much easier and less stressful than Dayz. They just need to make that map big!


Good man.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 05, 2012, 01:34:11 am
wait till day z stand alone comes out and then compare.

war Z is looking way better than I expected. But I really wish I joined the beta when it was free, because im not going to give them money for a beta of a pay to win game.

You're retarded.

There is no pay to win, and 90% of the marketplace you buy with INGAME money that you get from killing zombies and that's it. All of the pay for currency is at the moment is mostly cosmetic.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 05, 2012, 01:48:06 am
         So yesterday I went into Campos city because I just spawned after reviving a character. Looted a few places, found nothing but a few food items, bandages, and a flashlight. Saw a flashlight beam wildly appearing around a building. (someone beating the fuck out of a zombie.) I ran up to him, called friendly and dropped a bandage. He took it. He proceeded with broken English and asked if he could tag along. I complied. We looted around a bit and we barely talked. We were in a garage looting... I walk out the back door and see a survivor approaching around the corner. " Oh shit, he saw me." I turn and sprint back inside and out the front door. I wait around the corner with my flashlight on number 2 quick key. My broken English friend is unaware and still looting the inside of the garage. I begin to type "Friendly." As I do, my friend runs through the front door to follow me, he gets shot in the back 3-5 times and falls face first right in front of me. My heart starts to beat and I don't blink, I stand ready around the corner right beside my friend. The bandit walks to loot him unaware that I am standing ready. He turns the corner I pull out my flashlight and begin to circle and beat the fuck out of him, he drops 5-6 shots and tags me maybe 2-3 times point blank. I KILL THE MOTHER FUCKER! My heart is beating and my hands sweating... I quickly loot him and type in chat, "GF". My poor friend lies dead beside me, I mourn and proceed to the ugly future of kill or be killed.

         - Nic Miller survivor #11
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 05, 2012, 03:28:03 am
awesome gj Dude

until this game has some sort of in game voice com 90% of encounters is shoot the bad guy or die a sad death.

Im very sinical to friendly encounters anyways since you can have all the epic gear in game and still be killed by a ninja

with a hammer so you gotta be really careful.  Good times tho.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 05, 2012, 07:02:28 am
SON OF BITCH!  Just logged in and sniped, all mah gear is gone.  Delightful I really have got to start going to the safe zones or something.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 05, 2012, 08:55:12 am
Will be added in a week or so.

It's not pay to win. You can't buy guns or backpacks or anything like that.

dude. you buy ammo.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 05, 2012, 08:57:53 am
dude. you buy ammo.

But you don't HAVE to.  You can find it in game.  Look man if you like dayz more that's cool but stop putting out misinformation.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on November 05, 2012, 09:26:04 am
You can find it in game.

find a magazine here and there, but mostly you're out of ammo, kind of implies you have to buy it in the cash shop if you want to use that sweet gun you just found

people do say that ammo isn't going to be in the shop come release though, I'll believe it when I see it
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 05, 2012, 01:56:36 pm
I myself am rarely out of ammo, if you use the more common weapons you should always have enough, for example the 9mm Jericho, AKM and so on.

I got for my 9mm 3 Mags, for my AKM 5 or 4.

Also found a forward grip at a dead player yesterday, was 2 guys following us out of a farm, probably tried to kill us from behind with their little hammers, asked them what they want. Didn't answer though and I killed them when they broke my 10m rule.

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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 05, 2012, 02:05:00 pm
dude. you buy ammo.

Well, you can, but only with cash you obtain in game and you only obtain maybe $75 from 1/7 zombies you kill. Ammo costs like $7500. It wont be common for people to buy ammo. It's only like a trader you stumble across and you have this left over money that is pretty much useless, you looted a gun two months ago that's rare and you have yet to use it because you haven't found any ammo yet. Buy the one magazine or clip and off you go grinding and playing for two more months before you can buy another.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 05, 2012, 05:41:09 pm
But you don't HAVE to.  You can find it in game.  Look man if you like dayz more that's cool but stop putting out misinformation.

You can't buy guns or backpacks or anything like that.

seems you fanboys are the ones putting out misinformation here, what I said is true; you can buy ammo, food, medicine, scopes. not just comestic items.

maybe you would like to explain why am I wrong. i'd admit to misunderstanding something since I haven't actually played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Us9YcjUWCg

as I understand you have 2 currency types; gold coins and dollars, both found ingame. gold coins you can buy, in the above video you can buy AK ammo for 1 gold coin. ergo the assumtion that if you are willing to spend some RL money you have infinite ammo. infinite ammo with AK in dayz would mean you would never die to a zombie. ever.

and then theres medicine/food etc.

basically this stuff might be acceptable in a f2p game.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 05, 2012, 06:05:00 pm
Btw. when you go to the market there is that green sign next to the Dollar and GC, what's that?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 05, 2012, 06:30:16 pm
seems you fanboys are the ones putting out misinformation here, what I said is true; you can buy ammo, food, medicine, scopes. not just comestic items.

maybe you would like to explain why am I wrong. i'd admit to misunderstanding something since I haven't actually played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Us9YcjUWCg

as I understand you have 2 currency types; gold coins and dollars, both found ingame. gold coins you can buy, in the above video you can buy AK ammo for 1 gold coin. ergo the assumtion that if you are willing to spend some RL money you have infinite ammo. infinite ammo with AK in dayz would mean you would never die to a zombie. ever.

and then theres medicine/food etc.

basically this stuff might be acceptable in a f2p game.

I am at work and can't watch the video, but if what you say is true, then it's alpha footage, a test, or a hacker. The game is no longer in that stage and it is not like that now. Everything in the game marketplace is so expensive that it is impossible to be able to buy ammo, scopes, or anything worthwhile consistently unless you're rich IRL. Everything you can buy lasts once, it's not persistent. To reiterate, you cannot buy guns, or bigger backpacks or anything that is truly game changing. Play the game or GTFO of the thread.


The game is fucking amazing. #realtalk
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 05, 2012, 06:50:45 pm
I'm hardly a fanboy, and if your getting your information from old videos then its not current information thus it IS misinformation.  I have a spare 48 hour key if you would like to try it out and actually TRY the game before you make your decision on if its poop or not. 

Really it is a different game than dayz and I find it indescribably better than dayz.  But it's not for everyone; no game is.   But it is alot more fun and doesn't have warping zombies that run faster than you and NEVER give up, and is generally more fun. 

*** Misinformation is false or inaccurate information that is spread unintentionally. It is distinguished from disinformation by motive in that misinformation is simply erroneous, while disinformation, in contrast, is intended to mislead.




Btw. when you go to the market there is that green sign next to the Dollar and GC, what's that?

Those are stem cells you get from special zombies I think.  But I'm not sure if its actually in game just yet.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 05, 2012, 07:33:57 pm
Btw. when you go to the market there is that green sign next to the Dollar and GC, what's that?

I too believe it is Stem Cells from special zombies that require great tactics or a group to kill. Apparently they are incredibly hard to defeat. To my knowledge, they are not implemented yet.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 05, 2012, 08:12:34 pm
Always remember to peek around corner in 3rd person and use your 'nocs around corners in 3rd person.

Also, do you guys always spawn/respawn in the exact same location on every character you have?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 05, 2012, 08:21:24 pm
Always remember to peek around corner in 3rd person and use your 'nocs around corners in 3rd person.

Also, do you guys always spawn/respawn in the exact same location on every character you have?

Negative sir.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 05, 2012, 09:40:25 pm
What the fuck is up with my account then.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 06, 2012, 01:32:06 am
seems you fanboys are the ones putting out misinformation here, what I said is true; you can buy ammo, food, medicine, scopes. not just comestic items.

maybe you would like to explain why am I wrong. i'd admit to misunderstanding something since I haven't actually played the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Us9YcjUWCg

as I understand you have 2 currency types; gold coins and dollars, both found ingame. gold coins you can buy, in the above video you can buy AK ammo for 1 gold coin. ergo the assumtion that if you are willing to spend some RL money you have infinite ammo. infinite ammo with AK in dayz would mean you would never die to a zombie. ever.

and then theres medicine/food etc.

basically this stuff might be acceptable in a f2p game.

First of you're looking at a video that was released 1 month ago, has the ALPHA even been out that long? EVERYTHING is subject to change.

http://imgur.com/a/sncPi

There is a album of the current shop.

Screenshot in question

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As you can see only SVD ammo is the only ammo that you can currently buy, which is Sniper Ammo. I've NEVER seen or heard of a Sniper ingame so I'm assuming these are incredibly rare weapons so I don't really mind. I don't even know what the arrow is used for maybe a Crossbow? Also a weapons I've never seen so I'm not sure.

The more common weapons the ammo is all ingame money set at STUPID AMOUNTS of currency, as you can see I only have 300 after 6-10? hours of gameplay.

Melee weapons are fine as the hammer rapes everything and is common.

Hats are useless. NVG costs ingame money.

Foods costs ingame, not a big deal as its not hard to find and you can literally run on zero food meter for 1 hour before dying, don't care if people buy food anyways since it doesn't really give them an advantage as food is common.

Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 06, 2012, 09:07:51 am
thanks for correcting me guys. I didn't intentionally post old information thats just the only stuff I could find when I tried to figure out how the shop works. So looks like im wrong and I'm happy to admit that.

and i'd love to try it if anyone has a spare key.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on November 06, 2012, 09:33:12 am
trololol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLu80Lke4k

Have read several posts of people also reporting everyone on the map getting instantly killed. Looks like this is taking a dayz hacker turn. Client based logic < hacker paradise.

Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 06, 2012, 04:46:52 pm
thanks for correcting me guys. I didn't intentionally post old information thats just the only stuff I could find when I tried to figure out how the shop works. So looks like im wrong and I'm happy to admit that.

and i'd love to try it if anyone has a spare key.


Pm'd you one.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 06, 2012, 04:48:13 pm
trololol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fLu80Lke4k

Have read several posts of people also reporting everyone on the map getting instantly killed. Looks like this is taking a dayz hacker turn. Client based logic < hacker paradise.


Hate to say it but it DOES have Russian's and we all know what that means.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 07, 2012, 01:42:39 am
Shot to death by a flying sky hacker yesterday. Lost 40 bandages, large back pack, mossberg +24 shells, m4 semi +2 mags, 20+ 375ml water bottles and all my goddamn 'nola bars. You can tell it's a hacker when they don't even check you for 'nola bars.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Earthdforce on November 07, 2012, 05:10:36 am
So I have one of those 2 day passes a friend gave me, but I have noooo clue where I would put it.... help!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on November 07, 2012, 07:28:34 am
So I have one of those 2 day passes a friend gave me, but I have noooo clue where I would put it.... help!

download the game through the launcher, then use register account - in the first part it asks you for email and key, you have to enter the email that bought the game, then it lets you create your own account
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Leesin on November 07, 2012, 10:04:36 am
Me and a RL friend have been having a ton of fun on War Z, a few deaths but we've killed a whole bunch of players, most of which produce tears. There really is no reason to be co-operative in this game right now, even running as a group of 2 food can become scarce at times when you end up in crazy firefights and people all over are looting shit, you cannot trust anyone. So naturally we just shoot everyone we find, unarmed? then badluck because you're still getting shot. My favourite is when I kill bandits and they proceed to cry and rage over chat, especially this one guy, apparently because he didn't have his gun in his hands and I sprayed him in the chest with my M4 from 2 metres away it makes me a noob?  :lol: thanks for the loot buddy, don't run around buildings making a shit ton of noise without a weapon at hand.

Once they start adding more stuff to the game I can imagine there might be more reason to co-operate with people, will be fun. I also don't care what anyone says about this vs Day Z, I would rather play this than play anything on that shitcunt ArmA engine, where it feels like you are controlling a physically disabled character who is trying to swin through syrup.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 07, 2012, 03:37:51 pm
I was playing last night by myself and went from blue ridge settlement up north down the left hand side of the map to camp splinter (military camp) and found a M16. I camped it a bit hoping for someone to come by but no one did which was strange because it's a popular area. I left to the giant overpass tunnel in the middle of the map and saw these people coming up the road fighting zombies. I went proned hoping they didn't see me and watched them come up the road. I popped up and dropped one really quick then the other ran behind a vehicle but since I had an height advantage I could still see him and killed him. Ran up and they had quite a  bit of loot, nothing rare or amazing but a lot of common shit which is what I was looking for. Large backpack literally 10 feet from them allowed me to fully loot em. I got all there shit ran off and logged for the night as I was scared of dying.

This was hella intense and fun winning that 1v2 from a ambush was great.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 07, 2012, 04:05:20 pm
Ambushes are the best. I would like to so some tonight.

If you're on again Sequel hop in TS again and if my internet agrees with me tonight. Lets do it!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 07, 2012, 05:49:14 pm
So I have one of those 2 day passes a friend gave me, but I have noooo clue where I would put it.... help!

yeah necron was kind enough to send me one, despite my shitposting. and it took me a while to figure out, there is no link anywhere on the site as far as I can see.

go here http://www.thewarz.com/download/

download it run it, rest should be obvious.

I'm downloading now  8-)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on November 07, 2012, 06:14:24 pm
To much pvp for me atm. Running into to many people and when they are having an open convo in chat about how to duplicate weapons I cba. Gonna play some dota :P
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 07, 2012, 08:05:19 pm
played a few hours explored camps, buildings, even an entire city. never found a single weapon.

did find enough hats to start a major headgear distribution company tho.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on November 07, 2012, 08:19:54 pm
Yeah weapons are a bit random...I hadn't found anything for 3 stints of exploring then on one char I found a 9mm and got killed by a bandit, then on another char I found an assault rifle, and got killed by a bandit. All this within the space of about 1 hour 1/2.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 07, 2012, 08:37:22 pm
u really need to be in a group of 2 or else even fighting a zombie is a pain
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 07, 2012, 08:38:38 pm
With weapons I usually won't find any one day and when I log in with a different character (still on hardcore) the next day I'm swamped with m4s/mossbergs/various 9mm pistols. For all my guns and ammo I have yet to find any kind of body armor.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: rufio on November 07, 2012, 08:41:14 pm
zombies eazy.. pvp meh, kinda fun, still just point and aim. overall decent fun, but dayz is a way richer experience and way better overall imo.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 07, 2012, 08:44:32 pm
dayz is more rewarding atm.


Warz is more like a human hunting simulator.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on November 07, 2012, 08:46:11 pm
For it still early beta I'm willing to over look stuff and they are changing stuff pretty often.  I really like that the devs are trying pretty hard to listen to the players and find a happy medium.   All in ALL for 20$  very worth it.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 08, 2012, 01:03:39 am
zombies eazy.. pvp meh, kinda fun, still just point and aim. overall decent fun, but dayz is a way richer experience and way better overall imo.

I can't get over the fact how shitty Day-Z zombies were that I could never experience it properly. The teleporting, glitchy, fast running zombies were such a immersion killer.

u really need to be in a group of 2 or else even fighting a zombie is a pain

Zombies are really really easy to kill, not sure how you're having problems. If you simply scout out the area you can always find a path where you kill zombies 1 by 1.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Jarlek on November 08, 2012, 01:11:41 am
I can't get over the fact how shitty Day-Z zombies were that I could never experience it properly. The teleporting, glitchy, fast running zombies were such a immersion killer.

Zombies are really really easy to kill, not sure how you're having problems. If you simply scout out the area you can always find a path where you kill zombies 1 by 1.
The only zombie I had problem killing was the first one I aggroed.

I hit that thing 20+ times with my flashlight and it just wouldn't die!

Then I found a shotgun and all was cool.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 08, 2012, 01:45:13 am
I can't get over the fact how shitty Day-Z zombies were that I could never experience it properly. The teleporting, glitchy, fast running zombies were such a immersion killer.

Zombies are really really easy to kill, not sure how you're having problems. If you simply scout out the area you can always find a path where you kill zombies 1 by 1.

That's the point people miss. Zombies aren't spose to be uber kill machines. They are pack hunters in the common myth. In a pack, they are hard to kill. Single them out and the brain-dead n3rds are easy to kill. As they should be.

The only zombie I had problem killing was the first one I aggroed.

I hit that thing 20+ times with my flashlight and it just wouldn't die!

Then I found a shotgun and all was cool.

Aim for the head, melee them in the HEAD!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Jarlek on November 08, 2012, 01:51:33 am
Aim for the head, melee them in the HEAD!
Hehe, I realized that afterwards. It was my first zombie and all, it had snuck up on me (was in a building) so I kinda panicked. Wasn't that hard to kill, though. I was just circling around and spamming, thus stunlocking it. Was tense, though, since it didn't go down for a long time (since I was hitting all over it and not in the head).
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on November 08, 2012, 04:51:53 am
50% of times people die it while killing a zombie, human player comes behind them and hammers them in the back of the head. Thats why its better to play in pairs.. ORMOAR!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Wojtek_the_Kurwa_Great on November 08, 2012, 02:55:54 pm
<- Lookin for a War Z key / invite - PST  :)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Banok on November 09, 2012, 01:48:44 am
finally managed to get some weapons today!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: sjarken on November 09, 2012, 05:27:56 pm
war z has a long way to go, still i think this will be a great game when it's released! no building and stuff atm only shooting and surviving
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 09, 2012, 08:06:43 pm
war z has a long way to go, still i think this will be a great game when it's released! no building and stuff atm only shooting and surviving

You can set up barricades of various types, not sure how though. I've seen player made barbwire and wooden barricades on various servers.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Daergar on November 11, 2012, 09:36:42 am
Warz has massive potential, and considering how fun and sneaky it is at this early stage, I have high hopes for a great product.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: CaveSquirrel on November 11, 2012, 01:00:46 pm
You can set up barricades of various types, not sure how though. I've seen player made barbwire and wooden barricades on various servers.

Placed a barbwire yesterday, you get some kind of silhouette, when its white its placeable, when red not.


I couldnt see all of the wire though, so it was hard to place it.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Carthan on November 11, 2012, 05:54:14 pm


I couldnt see all of the wire though,

Famous last words...
Title: WAR Z
Post by: Mae. on November 11, 2012, 06:50:46 pm
http://www.thewarz.com

Who's playing?
Thoughts?
Comparisons to dayz?

Also, a clan feature is coming soon. Starting one up myself name to be announced, we will RUN Campos City ;D
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Title: Re: WAR Z
Post by: Vibe on November 11, 2012, 07:01:24 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/dayz/the-war-z/
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 11, 2012, 10:28:36 pm
Placed a barbwire yesterday, you get some kind of silhouette, when its white its placeable, when red not.


I couldnt see all of the wire though, so it was hard to place it.

What items did you need to place the barrier?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Earthdforce on November 11, 2012, 10:45:56 pm
Sweeeet, only 1.5 gb to download it seems!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 12, 2012, 05:24:02 am
Decent run today, got myself a new nice items like a Mauser Sniper Rifle, M107 Sniper Rifle, Kobra Scope, MTV Forest Body Armor, and some ammo/guns.
Title: Re: WAR Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 12, 2012, 05:24:35 am
Post was merged with this thread - Ignore this.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Mae. on November 12, 2012, 06:05:29 am
Decent run today, got myself a new nice items like a Mauser Sniper Rifle, M107 Sniper Rifle, Kobra Scope, MTV Forest Body Armor, and some ammo/guns.
play with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 12, 2012, 08:17:14 am
Decent run today, got myself a new nice items like a Mauser Sniper Rifle, M107 Sniper Rifle, Kobra Scope, MTV Forest Body Armor, and some ammo/guns.

Goddamn where do you guys find this good shit?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 12, 2012, 02:00:59 pm
play with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I play all the time. Sequel and I both play together. Hence the WarZ channel in our TS, you nooblet.
Did you buy it maeday?
Let's play tonight?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 12, 2012, 03:32:48 pm
I play all the time. Sequel and I both play together. Hence the WarZ channel in our TS, you nooblet.
Did you buy it maeday?
Let's play tonight?

She only wants to play with me Noodles, no one LIKES YOU. Just kidding....I like you..

Goddamn where do you guys find this good shit?

I'm a Bandit - I'm in a Bandit clan also so I roll with them occasionally.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 12, 2012, 05:12:55 pm
She only wants to play with me Noodles, no one LIKES YOU. Just kidding....I like you..

I'm a Bandit - I'm in a Bandit clan also so I roll with them occasionally.

Being a bandit is the most fun. Sequel. Tonight? (what time) I get off at 3, I have pretty much all night.
Do you play in their TS or just type?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Jarlek on November 12, 2012, 06:08:12 pm
Anyone got any good loot spots they want to share?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on November 12, 2012, 07:02:09 pm
Anyone got any good loot spots they want to share?

you have 666+
fuck you demon lord.

and all gear spawns randomly although higher rate of spawns in... the Military Camp, Echo's Compound, various Diners, Sheriffs stations and...









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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: BlindGuy on November 12, 2012, 07:13:33 pm
... 523729th carbon copy MMORPG...

Is that the EXACT number?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Mae. on November 12, 2012, 09:30:26 pm
Being a bandit is the most fun. Sequel. Tonight? (what time) I get off at 3, I have pretty much all night.
Do you play in their TS or just type?

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yes i did, so hilariously fun. i want to start a bandit clan.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Jarlek on November 12, 2012, 11:57:55 pm
you have 666+
fuck you demon lord.

and all gear spawns randomly although higher rate of spawns in... the Military Camp, Echo's Compound, various Diners, Sheriffs stations and...









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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on November 13, 2012, 12:47:43 am
Is it strange that 2 of my characters only respawn in front of Echo's compound?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on November 13, 2012, 04:58:00 am
Sorry Noodles, I've been really sick and keep vomiting so I can't even play a game without getting up and War-Z isn't exactly a game you can pause.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 07, 2012, 03:28:46 pm
Seems to be serious scam... with admins cheating while playing on a public server (last video)  :mrgreen:

Just take a look... (http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz?start=18#588)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2012, 04:00:52 pm
Seems to be serious scam... with admins cheating while playing on a public server (last video)  :mrgreen:

Just take a look... (http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz?start=18#588)

This guy is so freaking annoying to listen to. I hardly could resist stopping the second video at the end.

Btw I don't get all the fuzz about developpers cheating. In the context of a serious company doing it to test and improve the game, that's not wrong.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kelugarn on December 07, 2012, 07:21:39 pm
This guy is so freaking annoying to listen to. I hardly could resist stopping the second video at the end.

Btw I don't get all the fuzz about developpers cheating. In the context of a serious company doing it to test and improve the game, that's not wrong.

Spawning rare equipment for your buddies hardly counts as improving the game. But hey, at least he was going to turn into a terminator to hunt bandits instead of innocent survivors.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Leesin on December 07, 2012, 11:13:52 pm
I haven't played this game for a little while now because the last play session me and my friends had, we encountered hacker after hacker and it got really boring, it's amazing how a community can destroy a game so quickly.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: SeQuel on December 08, 2012, 09:34:44 pm
Give it some time, I still have hope that the game will come out fine. Once they get the hackers under control it will be all good.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 09, 2012, 09:35:58 am
I've been playing it.  Serious fun, but you gotta be fine with losing everything.  Right now its a KoS shitfest, but I actually made friends with 2 complete strangers, in the military base of all places.  Held off 4 guys with a .22, a hammer, and a shotgun, while they had 3 M16s, and an AK.  Granted, it was the first success story in a line of pathetic encounters in clearview and campos, getting shit on by everybody.


All games are dumb anyway.  Its entirely who you play with and you're attitude toward it.  Even the most glaring issues with the game so far have made it a fun experience though.  Anybody else try to run down a steep hill yet?  I instantly died while walking down a hill, and busted out laughing.  One of the other guys I was with turns around and runs toward where I died to see what happened, and he died.  So the 3rd guy calls us both retards and has to carry all our good stuff and crouch walk down a mountainside, almost parallel to the slope, stopping every 10 ft so he doesn't die.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 19, 2012, 11:01:13 am
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html)

Should read it if you're playing it or planning to buy!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 19, 2012, 11:08:20 am
As said, it's their previous game (War Inc) with modded in zombies, some loot and a slighty bigger map. Love those steam details compared to what the game really offers you.

I still laugh at the "MMO" tag they have given this game, too.

Also gotta love the ever ignorant, idiotic Titov:

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I can assure you that based on what we're seeing and number of people who post bad comments are small percentage...
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Sergey Titov: I'm sure there'll be people who will look into small details and will say "no I was mislead," where in fact they imagined something to themselves without checking details first. I'm sure that Steam have it's refund policies that should handle those situations.

lmao

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Sergey Titov: And we've corrected text on Steam. As I've said -- it was done less than 18 hours after we've started selling game. After that -- after text was changed -- over 7 hours passed.

GameSpy: Steam still says -- I'm looking at it right now -- "Up to 100 players per game server." That is a false claim.

Sergey Titov: Let me ask you -- what YOU think we should put there, since we do not know what number of slots will be on official servers tomorrow -- 20,30, 50, 70 or 100?

ahahah, dying here

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There's no such thing as "Release" for an online game.

The amount of dumb is reaching dangerous levels
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 19, 2012, 11:25:47 am
My favourite is, when asked about maps and their promised size, "Over 100 sq km" falls in "100 to 400" right?"  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: BlindGuy on December 19, 2012, 11:27:55 am
Meh, ppl lie to make money, nothing to see here move along.


Although, while I try to keep an open mind and not be a bigot, this continues to paint eastern europe in a bad light.


But tbh: Did you SEE War Inc? I laughed when it went on sale, a game worse than f2p games of same genre but they want money?

Also from Eastern europe: The biggest joke in gaming, World of Tanks....I'm now seeing commercials for this on the TV in western europe and the US....WHY are ppl still throwing money at 3rd and 4th rate developers? Buy presents for your kids/loved ones, dont throw it at ex soviet block con artists ffs, wake up.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 19, 2012, 11:48:56 am
Meh, ppl lie to make money, nothing to see here move along.


Although, while I try to keep an open mind and not be a bigot, this continues to paint eastern europe in a bad light.


But tbh: Did you SEE War Inc? I laughed when it went on sale, a game worse than f2p games of same genre but they want money?

Also from Eastern europe: The biggest joke in gaming, World of Tanks....I'm now seeing commercials for this on the TV in western europe and the US....WHY are ppl still throwing money at 3rd and 4th rate developers? Buy presents for your kids/loved ones, dont throw it at ex soviet block con artists ffs, wake up.
I keep wondering the same: Why would anyone actually buy this pile of crap?

I am checking the Steam forums on WarZ atm and there is a hellfire going on :D
They made one of the moderators from the WarZ-forum moderator on the Steam forum and he just went off, banning dozens of people for stating "Don't buy it! It's crap! It's a freaking scam!"... Kinda entertaining to watch everyone going nuts about this. Now even some Steam-Officials made statements, promising to look into the bans and accusations :D

Bad PR for Valve too. I guess they are scratching their heads too right now...
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Overdriven on December 19, 2012, 12:01:04 pm
Also from Eastern europe: The biggest joke in gaming, World of Tanks....I'm now seeing commercials for this on the TV in western europe and the US....WHY are ppl still throwing money at 3rd and 4th rate developers? Buy presents for your kids/loved ones, dont throw it at ex soviet block con artists ffs, wake up.

I play world of tanks for a laugh and casual gaming. It's not bad and it's free. There's absolutely 0 reason to spend money on it as it doesn't take long to grind the upgrades. Not compared with games like Tribes.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: BlindGuy on December 19, 2012, 12:21:47 pm
I play world of tanks for a laugh and casual gaming. It's not bad and it's free. There's absolutely 0 reason to spend money on it as it doesn't take long to grind the upgrades. Not compared with games like Tribes.

Doesnt take THAT much time, true, but it's SO BORING. 1 fire mode, 1 control mode, 1 gamemode, 0 fun.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Doppel on December 19, 2012, 08:28:30 pm
http://kotaku.com/5969836/the-war-z-removed-from-steam (http://kotaku.com/5969836/the-war-z-removed-from-steam)

The scam is gone on steam... for now.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 19, 2012, 09:24:52 pm
Really really shit marketing and moderating.  I'm really not pissed about it, but people need to realize the importance of integrity, and a solid business model.


Global Agenda might've been a decent game if they didn't promise the same MMO bullshit, and expect people to pay a 1 time full cost for the game itself, and then 15 a month for the fucking AvA (clan vs clan seasonal territory thing).  Then a month later say oh wait shit, people aren't buying this, lets consider P2P for EVERYONE, lose their playerbase, get bombed to shit with terrible reviews, and then finally decide, well we fucked up, lets just sell booster packs as microtransactions.


When I saw the game on steam, it was seriously a shitstorm.  Kinda makes your blood boil, and what makes it seem like a scam, is they want to reward the original buyers of the game, and then they try to release it far discounted the very next day.  Sure, I get all the characters unlocked, but when did they ever outline that that's where my money was going?  The in-game price to unlock a character is set at a completely unreachable limit right now of like 150kxp on one character, when my characters have about 6k collectively.

Surely they have to talk about these things.  What feels like utter betrayal might honestly be that Titov is really just that god damn stupid. 

I feel like I got my money's worth already: had a couple honorable run-ins, got jumped by 3 bandits, and me and my surviving friend took em out with an AA12.  3 more guys came in to reclaim their shit, maybe it was the same 3 guys who logged in armed alts in the area, or they had clan members server hop the area - also got dropped by me being a camping bundle of sticks in the police station.  Beating M16 dudes with flashlights on a really lucky spawn.  Its a pile of nonsense, yeah, and they still have 2 pistols with no ammo spawns, and that absolutely outrageous falling damage bug on a slope.  Save your money, or join with a few solid friends and don't go in with high expectations.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 19, 2012, 09:36:40 pm
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Update: In response to Kotaku's request for comment, Valve issued the following statement:

    From time to time a mistake can be made and one was made by prematurely issuing a copy of War Z for sale via Steam. We apologize for this and have temporary removed the sale offering of the title until we have time to work with the developer and have confidence in a new build. Those who purchase the game and wish to continue playing it via Steam may do so. Those who purchased the title via Steam and are unhappy with what they received may seek a refund by creating a ticket at our support site here.

Update 2: In response to Kotaku's request for comment, War Z boss Sergey Titov also sent over a statement:

    We're making sure that our Store page is 100% correct this is why.

    Bottom line – our end goal is to have satisfied and not angry customers, so this is more important for us than everything else.

Power to the people!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 20, 2012, 07:51:12 am
What feels like utter betrayal might honestly be that Titov is really just that god damn stupid. 

Spergey Titov
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Carthan on December 20, 2012, 08:02:47 am
Seems to be serious scam... with admins cheating while playing on a public server (last video)  :mrgreen:

Just take a look... (http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz?start=18#588)

This brings back so many horrible memories of various badmins from fps games..... The horror

And to believe that those are the devs.
So many questions to ask myself before even looking at this game again.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 20, 2012, 08:50:52 am
Heh. The game can no longer be bought on Steam due to multiple complaints about a ton of shit.

TLDR:
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http://kotaku.com/5969784/the-war-z-mess-every-crazy-detail-we-know-so-far
http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226985p1.html
http://www.eurogamer.chocolate chip cookieses-to-gamers-who-misread-steam-page-hits-out-at-dayz-fanboys <--------- sigh.... censor..
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/commechocolate chip cookieng/
http://warzscam.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 20, 2012, 11:25:24 am
^ Wowwwowowow
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 20, 2012, 11:46:17 am
Up to DayZ Standalone now. Much much much MUCH superior game, in every aspect.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 20, 2012, 11:48:36 am
Sergey Titov, the guy who's done all the interviews now has the dubious honor of having the worst critic reviewed game on metacritic(Big Rigs) AND lowest user scored game(WarZ). Poor guy.  :(

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-war-z
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 20, 2012, 11:51:07 am
Poor guy.  :(

Hope you're not serious about this lol. He has to be the most ignorant, lying scum fool dev ever. I dare say he's worse than EA. Instead of just apologizing for the pile of shit they caused, he rather puts the blaim on players every single fucking time. Just like the part with people "not interpreting steam description correctly", all the way to banning innocent players:

“First of all - overall we’re 99.9% sure that we’re banning right people. Means - if you’re hacking and you’ve been promised “100% undetectable” hack by whoever sold it to you - if you get ban - please save yourself time and don’t send us support emails “I haven’t done anything, I didn’t used hack”.”
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 20, 2012, 12:07:13 pm
I am completely serious. I feel sorry for people that are such failures in life.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 20, 2012, 12:33:53 pm
I am completely serious. I feel sorry for people that are such failures in life.
He's everything but a failure.

He made a shitload of money, sold his studio to some investment group - I'd call that profit.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Emotion on December 20, 2012, 04:32:18 pm
If you haven't bought the game. It's still fun for 10-20 bucks, but know it is not a solid amazing product.

If you have already bought it, play it if you want. It can still be fun.

BUT!! I do agree that this guy screwed everyone over.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: cmp on December 20, 2012, 04:44:44 pm
You have to be strongly retarded to buy this game right now.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 20, 2012, 05:03:39 pm
You have to be strongly retarded to buy this game right now.
Agree.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tot. on December 20, 2012, 05:59:20 pm
“First of all - overall we’re 99.9% sure that we’re banning right people."

Of course they are.

(...)They randomly ban accounts that have a certain amount of time spent playing in-game, knowing they are hooked on the game so they re-buy the game. source (http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz)

I feel sorry for people that are such failures in life.

He must be feeling really depressed now.

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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 20, 2012, 08:01:05 pm
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 20, 2012, 08:02:55 pm
awesome game
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Carthan on December 21, 2012, 03:47:35 am
I wouldn't be surprised if after this sergey became a politician, seems to be the only thing he is qualified for now.
If not over qualified
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Tibe on December 21, 2012, 08:03:08 am
Biggest cunts in the gamingindustry. Lets just say I saw this coming a mile away. Always wait for reviews than buy it. Didnt loose moneh to a scam. And those pictures they put up for false advertising were clearly bullshit.

And 2 years of development? Didnt DayZ come out 2012? Cause they logically got the idea from DayZ. And the freaking description in their homepage: "The War Z is the best Zombie Game you will ever play. A Zombie Survival MMO that puts you in a world of Zombies ready to eat your brains! Will you survive!?"
 Bitch please! Basically same stuff as those incredible moondream Kickstartercampaigns that have 100% chance of going nowere.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on December 21, 2012, 09:52:00 am
(...)They randomly ban accounts that have a certain amount of time spent playing in-game, knowing they are hooked on the game so they re-buy the game. source (http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/general-discussion-of-things-and-such/82-hey-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz)

This is supposedly a lie.

The information came from a disgruntled forum moderator who was removed after being hacked (and his account abused to delete important threads etc in the forum).


Here's Sergey Titov's response:

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Regarding Devin - our ex moderator

I'm not sure if you saw that he just posted this new video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svd-p3-CURk

I have a few comments on all this :

Normally I wouldn't even comment on this whole deal, but in this case our lawyers were prepared to send him pretty nasty letter and before they did that, I've reached to Devin and basically asked - why you spread all those lies. And he replied to me which was unexpected and explained that he felt really bad that he was banned from being voluntary moderator after spending dozens of hours and being passionate about game for what he thinks was a small mistake.

So we've talked and I didn't even mentioned that we may go do anything legal against him - there wasn't any point in doing this - he offered to apologise and asked to be back helping community. Some of his ideas are actually quite good, so I decided that he deserve second chance.

You may see him on forums, and it'll be up to community to decide if you want him managing community or not. We're making this game for players, so it's up to players to tell us HOW game and community should grow.

Bottom line - we're all humans, we're doing stupid things, and sometimes those things are bad enough so we should pay price, and sometimes they're not that important and people should be given second chance.

Additionally - there is a thread on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/ that needs upvotes! The thread "WarZ forum mod that stirred up all that controversy last week admits he was lying." is on the front page. Please upvote this so people can see the truth about us and our game. (I would link directly to the thread but reddit automatically downvotes the thread when you do that.)

Thanks everyone!

Sergey Titov
Executive Producer
The War Z

I'm not saying the game doesn't have other issues of course -- which it seemingly have A LOT of, but parts of the accusations originate from lies.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 21, 2012, 11:24:46 am
Sergey Titov...

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Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on December 21, 2012, 01:06:11 pm
(December 20 2012) The War Z interview: Sergey Titov responds to backlash, sale removal from Steam: http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/20/the-war-z-interview-sergey-titov-backlash (http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/20/the-war-z-interview-sergey-titov-backlash)

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For the time it was available, The War Z was at the top of Steam’s top sellers list. How many copies did you sell?

Titov: We can’t really comment on this yet, however the game performance on Steam exceeded our expectations. Overall this is a very good thing for us—even with all the bumps, The War Z proved to be a very attractive game for players. Good thing is that our daily performance indicators—number of concurrent users, number of daily players are growing—despite all the negative press recently. I can tell you that as of today we have close to 700,000 registred players, with close to 180,000 players playing the game daily.

No doubt that a large part of the 700k are beta testers etc, however the minimum package is 15$, second 25$ and last 50$, going by the lowest:

700000 * 15$ = 10.5 million U.S. dollars, so let's say just 400k of those actually paid for the lowest package, that's 6 million, and there's tons of people who bought the highest rated packages.

Even if just going solely by the daily active players reported:

180000 * 15$  = 2.7 million U.S. dollars

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Not too shabby for simply modding a shitty engine (War Inc). If someone were to actually make a proper game, less hardcore than DayZ but same genre, no doubt it would be very succesful.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 21, 2012, 01:27:35 pm
He's everything but a failure.

He made a shitload of money, sold his studio to some investment group - I'd call that profit.
Called it first :D
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Christo on December 21, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
700000 * 15$ = 10.5 million U.S. dollars, so let's say just 400k of those actually paid for the lowest package, that's 6 million, and there's tons of people who bought the highest rated packages.

Even if just going solely by the daily active players reported:

180000 * 15$  = 2.7 million U.S. dollars

Mind.. blown.

I have to remove my spine, and start ripping off people like this.

Seriously $_$
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: cmp on December 21, 2012, 08:32:47 pm
This is supposedly a lie.

...

Here's Sergey Titov's response:

I'm not saying the game doesn't have other issues of course -- which it seemingly have A LOT of, but parts of the accusations originate from lies.

Looks like somebody got bought.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on December 21, 2012, 10:29:21 pm
Looks like somebody got bought.

He could have paid off the moderator, sure :P
Not like he couldn't afford to!
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Carthan on December 22, 2012, 06:23:27 am

700000 * 15$ = 10.5 million U.S. dollars, so let's say just 400k of those actually paid for the lowest package, that's 6 million, and there's tons of people who bought the highest rated packages.

Even if just going solely by the daily active players reported:

180000 * 15$  = 2.7 million U.S. dollars

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Not too shabby for simply modding a shitty engine (War Inc). If someone were to actually make a proper game, less hardcore than DayZ but same genre, no doubt it would be very succesful.



Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: GreasySausageSandwhich on December 22, 2012, 10:29:41 pm
The game wasn't TERRIBLE, but after playing a bit of it, it was apparent that it wasn't near as good as DayZ.  This game is going to fail solely because of these money-grubbing shitbag devs.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on December 22, 2012, 10:50:03 pm
if ea makes left 4 dead 3

Dayz and Warz are FUCKED. 

Take the game for what they are not for what they are hyped to be.

Quiet feeding the internet troll drama rage and refocus that energy into the diplomacy forums lolzolozlolz.!

Fuck you.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 23, 2012, 05:45:27 am
I had more fun on WarZ already than I ever did on L4D, I regret to say.  Just never liked the series beyond the character design.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on December 23, 2012, 09:06:53 am
l4d has its own porn. l4d is superior.


Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Christo on December 23, 2012, 10:27:12 am
l4d has its own porn. l4d is superior.

Seriously?

...

Of course.. how could I forget Rule 34.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 23, 2012, 09:00:54 pm
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 24, 2012, 02:20:53 pm
They have to change the name of the game :D and they knew about it since mid November :P (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1227023p1.html)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 24, 2012, 02:46:51 pm
From what I know of them, L4D and DayZ are not the same genre.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Arrowblood on December 24, 2012, 05:08:27 pm
Fuck this shit, ive bought Operation arrowhead and this shitty key is not working :evil:
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 25, 2012, 01:54:05 am
They have to change the name of the game :D and they knew about it since mid November :P (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1227023p1.html)

Why bother owning the name when you already earned the millions you wanted ?
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: cmp on December 25, 2012, 02:07:26 am
If he earned the millions he wanted he wouldn't be posting in his forum trying to convince people it's not a scam.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 25, 2012, 04:09:37 pm
If he earned the millions he wanted he wouldn't be posting in his forum trying to convince people it's not a scam.

Well a few additional millions certainly don't hurt
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Carthan on December 25, 2012, 10:10:31 pm
Cannot be unheard.....
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 26, 2012, 02:18:51 am
Haha, anybody else see this?  Probly been like this for weeks, but i just saw today.


http://warzcentral.com/

gg
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: tizzango on December 27, 2012, 04:35:18 am
Man, the shitty thing is that the game does look good- even if they did just port their War Inc. engine (or whatever the correct jargon is). The game looked less buggier than DayZ in terms of zombie mechanics and the player mechanics. In the videos of War Z, when you shot a player it instantly affected them and likewise with zombies, which is what DayZ lacked.

Sometimes you could shoot a player 5 times with a Lee Enfield and he would live, and other times shoot him once and he would die. Sometimes players would pass out for 10 seconds, sometimes 2 minutes and you had no way of telling. Sometimes you could empty a magazine into a player, and he could still get one shot off that would kill you before he died. In addition zombies took a delay upon death, so you would waste extra ammunition thinking they were still alive and not to mention they ran identically to the form light takes travelling down a fibre optic cable- zig zagging at 3 x 10 to the power of 8 meters per second.

I'm not saying the game /IS/ more playable (cause I haven't played it), but it certainly /LOOKS/ more playable than DayZ in the current stages they are in. I mean even with all the negative reception with this 'scam', those that have played War Z and DayZ, can you honestly say DayZ is more functional/less-buggy?

Please excuse the grammar i'm drunk! :D
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 27, 2012, 04:56:08 am
It's playable, but there's nothing to do.  I've had fun with it, but I can have fun with a rubber band.  If you forget all the bullshit with the devs, my main critiques are:

1) Server hopping is shitty, there isn't enough incentive for roaming location to location, you can just find an out of the way spot to camp out and switch.     +++POSITIVE: There's a 10 second countdown on disconnect, so you can't alt+f4 out in panic.  ----NEGATIVE: YOU CAN'T CANCEL THE COUNTDOWN FOR SOME REASON, haha.  Had a guy, i heard his footsteps coming, i'm like oh god oh god cancel.  just watched him come up - i had the jump on him, he didnt notice me, and i watched him derp around for 6 seconds, turn around and shoot me, then instantly DCed.

2) 3rd person has a crosshair, but 1st person you need to use ironsights -- ???.  Fuckin nonsense.  Get rid of the crosshair entirely, or remove 3rd person entirely.

3) The noisemaking is awful.  Sidewalk is super loud, while the pavement on the street is 100% silent.  Dirt/grass is silent.  Rocks make metal-clanging noises.  For this being about 80% of the game, its pretty ridiculous.  That's excluding the bug where if you hit a wall or the ground with a hammer, about 1 in 5 times it makes a bullet ricochet sound which freaked the hell out of me till i got used to my friends bein dickheads

4) The dev shit...  Instead of being fixed, its probably going to hit the fan more and more by the day.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Vibe on December 27, 2012, 08:03:01 am
Man, the shitty thing is that the game does look good- even if they did just port their War Inc. engine (or whatever the correct jargon is). The game looked less buggier than DayZ in terms of zombie mechanics and the player mechanics. In the videos of War Z, when you shot a player it instantly affected them and likewise with zombies, which is what DayZ lacked.

Sometimes you could shoot a player 5 times with a Lee Enfield and he would live, and other times shoot him once and he would die. Sometimes players would pass out for 10 seconds, sometimes 2 minutes and you had no way of telling. Sometimes you could empty a magazine into a player, and he could still get one shot off that would kill you before he died. In addition zombies took a delay upon death, so you would waste extra ammunition thinking they were still alive and not to mention they ran identically to the form light takes travelling down a fibre optic cable- zig zagging at 3 x 10 to the power of 8 meters per second.

I'm not saying the game /IS/ more playable (cause I haven't played it), but it certainly /LOOKS/ more playable than DayZ in the current stages they are in. I mean even with all the negative reception with this 'scam', those that have played War Z and DayZ, can you honestly say DayZ is more functional/less-buggy?

Please excuse the grammar i'm drunk! :D

They're pretty much at the same level when it comes to bugs/cheaters/hackers. But DayZ has more features, the world is MUCH larger, more depth, more everything. WarZ is just their previous bland shooter with zombies ducktaped to it. It's shallow compared to DayZ. And that's just the mod I'm talking about. DayZ Standalone... now that is something worth looking forward to.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 27, 2012, 09:23:36 am
Sucked it up and played WarZ with a couple guys tonight.


Its fuckin' awful.  Undeniably rushed so hard out of the ass that its covered in rectal blood.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Molly on December 27, 2012, 11:06:05 am
Sucked it up and played WarZ with a couple guys tonight.


Its fuckin' awful.  Undeniably rushed so hard out of the ass that its covered in rectal blood.
Now that's a colourful description right there...  8-)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on December 27, 2012, 08:25:17 pm
Email sent out minutes ago:

Quote from: Hammerpoint Interactive

Dear fellow Survivors,

It has now been more than two months since we launched public access to The War Z. We’ve definitely had our ups and downs, and I thought that this Holiday break was the right time for me to try to step back a little and think about our journey since it started. This may be a little long, but I would appreciate if you could stay with me for a few minutes as I try to go over the highlights of the game as well as some of the hurdles and controversies, how we have addressed that and what our plans are.

First of all a very big and sincere “Thank You!” to all of you. We are really proud of the community we have formed with you guys. Every day we have hundreds of thousands of players on our servers, and this is a life-changing event for the team and me. We are blessed to have you as members of the community and we are well aware that without you the game would be nothing.  Along with that thanks, though, I need to admit that we failed to effectively communicate some of our plans and actions to both our existing players and to our new prospective players. This failure to communicate resulted in some very negative feedback from some members of our community, but while it might be easy to label them as “haters” or some other dismissive term, in all honesty this is my fault.  I became arrogant and blinded by the early success and quick growth of The War Z, our increasing number of players, numbers we were getting from surveys, etc., and I chose not to notice the concerns and questions raised by these members of the game community as well as others.  This failure is entirely on my shoulders and if anything I owe thanks to that vocal minority and admit that I should have paid attention sooner. I chose instead to concentrate on the bigger picture – my dream of turning The War Z from being a game developed by a small indie team into a large online venture, instead of addressing small things first and staying focused on the game issues. At the end my arrogance led us to the moment, when all those small things finally caught up and created a “perfect storm” that affected all of our community members.  For that I’m truly sorry and apologize to all of our community as well as the larger PC gaming community that is not yet playing The War Z.

I do not take this situation lightly, and last week events were especially humbling for me. I’ve experienced a range of emotions, most of which centered on regret for not having addressed some of the issues differently than we did, but we can’t change the past. The only thing we can do is to be sure that we won’t repeat the same mistakes in the future. I have realized that as the leader of this ship, I missed all early warnings that were saying, “Your community is not as happy as you think they are, you need to alter course.” I was too focused on how great we are and how a small independent team got their first game to over 700,000 users in a two-month period.  Though that is something to be very proud of, allowing that to overshadow the existing community and their satisfaction was poor judgment.

I want to give you some insight into what our plans are for the future, but before we get to that, I’d like to clear the air with you on several important topics.

Community management and moderation – the problem

Even since the early Alpha launch, this game has always cultivated a large and loyal player base that is very active in the game. Again, thank you for this. Unfortunately, we weren’t prepared for this large success and the way we managed the community was not the way it should’ve been. We relied too much on forum moderators, whose primary role was to punish those who break rules, not to engage the community and guide conversations into productive discussions about problems. There wasn’t enough presence of the development team on forums, there wasn’t enough updates on development of UPCOMING features. We failed to communicate our position and messaging on the outside platforms such as Facebook, twitter and various online websites, and when we did this we chose to rely more on arrogance rather than being humble and trying to understand why people were saying negative things. We chose to tune out negative reactions to the game, not paying enough attention to them – and this, again, is my fault. We chose to rely too much on numbers – percentage of refund requests, number and dynamic of our daily and monthly active users, etc. Well, in hindsight – those things probably work well for more casual games, but the hardcore PC gaming community is much different and can be very vocal about what they feel. Even when the percentage of players with negative comments is small, as the community grows, even a small percentage can add up to be a very significant absolute number. And it’s not just a number – those are real people with real issues they are having with the game. OP Productions (publisher for War Z) and me personally have failed to address those issues effectively.

Community management and moderation – the solution!

We’re changing our community management procedures and rules right now. We’re going to reevaluate publishing and marketing team performance, and I will make sure that Hammerpoint Interactive developers will have a much stronger voice when it comes to community management and we won’t rely 100% on OP Productions to single handedly handle this. Lots of changes will be happening very fast in the weeks to come. One of the ideas that I proposed was to select 10 players from around the world who can represent the player community and invite them to our offices in Los Angeles, to meet the team, check out what we’re doing, and share with actual developers their concerns, wishes and thoughts on the game. We also will involve community, to a much higher degree, in the process of making our next map for the War Z (called “California”). We’ll be discussing many of the aspects of the map with you and asking for feedback.

We’re revisiting our forum policies; we’re going to bring on an additional community management team, additional moderators and we’ll train them how to respond to things properly. There will still be restrictions on harassment, trash talk, etc. But we’ll make sure that every opinion is heard. At the same time, I must also be cautious: we cannot address all issues and there cannot be only one voice. Please accept that. With hundreds of thousands of players playing, talking, chatting, voicing their strong opinions, there will always be diverging opinions. And some issues that are minor ones are sometimes brought to light by very vocal channels. I would even say there is sometimes a beginning of controversy because the game is now so popular. So there is sometimes a distortion between the severity of the issue and the attention it gets. But we will clearly implement steps to better listen to the community.

What is Foundation Release?

The most asked question of the last week was “is this the final release?”  My answer has always been that for an online game a “final” release means that the game is dead – so there’s really no such thing, you never stop developing, making changes to and adding new features to the game. This is how we came to call the current version of The War Z “Foundation Release.”  We launched the Foundation Release on December 17, 2012 as our first-stage release that we use as a foundation to build upon. It does include the core features and a fully playable environment. This is our version 1.0, and of course  we will continue to improve that version as time goes on.  Did we rush to get it done? That is a tough question, but to answer honestly I think that we all pushed very hard to be first to market and in time for the holidays. Our entire team was working late, long hours to iron out issues and include as many features as possible.  This is part of the reality of being a smaller, independent game developer. If we had a larger team and more funding we may have done things differently, but I’m not sure. I don’t think it was a mistake because our numbers have been strong since day one and, even with the recent negativity, our metrics are really solid and we’ve been continuing to grow.  The negative opinions are always the most vocal, but most players are really enjoying the game and we’ve been attracting more and more daily active players every week.  A lot of the gaming journalists that have been playing the game have also given us some great feedback. I realize that we will take a few hits from some of the traditional gaming press in terms of review scores, but I’m hoping that even they will consider that this game is a living project that will continue to evolve as time goes on. We are very proud of our Foundation Release, and we do stand behind it like we have stood behind any previous version.

What’s on the Horizon?

As for what will happen next with The War Z? We’re currently evaluating the relationship between Hammerpoint and OP Productions.  I firmly believe that Hammerpoint should be playing a more prominent role in publishing/game operating process. We’re in a process of adding new key members to our team, bringing on guys who have much more experience operating and growing successful online games and I know this is going to make a huge difference in terms of development.  We’ll be making some big decisions in terms of leadership for both companies and I will personally change how I handle many things.  Above all we will continue to develop and make this game the best that it can be.

I know that to some people my words won’t matter much. I understand that. I hope that will change as we move forward and deliver the features that our players have been waiting for. I can promise you that from now on things will be much more transparent, and we’ll provide better communication and engage our community to discuss upcoming features way before they appear in the game.

I do believe that we aren’t even close to uncovering the true potential for The War Z, and I hope that in the coming year, we’ll be able to regain trust from people who were alienated by our actions and we’ll be able to move forward and grow the game together.

Thank you for reading all this, thank you for supporting the game and thank you for helping us to change and realize what’s important as well as what is not.

I hope you are all having a happy holiday and I wish you the best for the New Year!

Sincerely,
Sergey Titov

Executive Producer, The War Z

Damage control protocols in effect!
 
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Uumdi on December 27, 2012, 10:06:44 pm
Next patch will add corn to the feces I hope.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Kafein on December 27, 2012, 10:34:51 pm
Email sent out minutes ago:

Damage control protocols in effect!

Reading it with Marcus voice, although it's quite clear Titov did not write that himself.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on December 28, 2012, 03:30:22 pm
Reading it with Marcus voice, although it's quite clear Titov did not write that himself.

Yeah, the language is widely different from his forum posts. Night and day. Hence damage control :D (from a higher up).
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: tizzango on December 29, 2012, 06:34:44 am
I got one of those guest passes from a Kapikulu and played it for a bit with him and his team. In my brief hour of play I couldn't spot any negatives (but then again i only played for an hour).

From my limited experience, i'll give you my initial verdict in the form of "DayZ vs WarZ" where "+" means DayZ lacks the said feature and WarZ is strong in said feature.

+ A lot more smooth animations, not clunky and can actually jump over objects.
+ No hitting/bugging/random leg breaking through walls.
+ Easier interface, "E to pickup", not a somewhat broken 'G'.
+ Don't need to have special procedures to rearrange your backpack in fear of permnantley deleting an item.
+ Zombies move better, and aren't Usain bolt
+ Don't get stuck in doorways
+ Furniture/decor is to scale, and houses don't feel so claustrophobic.
+ Melee is a lot better/cleaner
+ Stamina bar
+ Zombies die instantly, upon death blow
+ Players die instantly, upon death blow
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Lordark on December 30, 2012, 12:14:40 am
there is website for warz probobly sponsored by warz devs that u pay 12 dollar  )a month(

and u are almost godlike. Really explained alot why everytime bandit showed up on your server you better clear the fuck out.

** Removed link, please do not link cheat sites, ever. Thanks. **
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Nessaj on February 20, 2013, 02:40:58 pm
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/14/war-z-producer-sergey-titov-on-losing-steam-day-z-comparisons/#more-15496 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/14/war-z-producer-sergey-titov-on-losing-steam-day-z-comparisons/#more-15496)
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on April 02, 2013, 04:46:49 pm
For anyone even slightly interested in this game http://forum.ragezone.com/f111/warz-serverfiles-29-03-2013-a-920346/#post7530443 .


The whole data base has been copied/backdoored all player accounts/info is there waiting to be sold.

Please if you ever bought this read the link, if you know someone that has this let them know.


from the Op:

Since we got access to different accounts of "Sergey" a Developer of WarZ (hes not really a Developer) we just leaked everything we could.

 We had access for about 8 Days to ALL WarZ Accounts, ALL WarZ eMails and ALL "Hidden" Forum Areas also hidden Website Links and FTP/Server Access ... FULL ACCESS to everything!

 Our Group is working on the Serverfiles at the moment including a "HowTo install a WarZ Server" Tutorial, we downloaded the Files @ 28th March so its UP2DATE.


Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Iymore on April 13, 2013, 09:39:27 pm
full of hacks
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Oberyn on April 28, 2013, 04:17:40 pm
For anyone even slightly interested in this http://forum.ragezone.com/f111/warz-serverfiles-29-03-2013-a-920346/#post7530443 .


The whole data base has been copied/backdoored all player accounts/info is there waiting to be sold.

Please if you ever bought this read the link, if you know someone that has this let them know.


from the Op:

Since we got access to different accounts of "Sergey" a Developer of WarZ (hes not really a Developer) we just leaked everything we could.

 We had access for about 8 Days to ALL WarZ Accounts, ALL WarZ eMails and ALL "Hidden" Forum Areas also hidden Website Links and FTP/Server Access ... FULL ACCESS to everything!

 Our Group is working on the Serverfiles at the moment including a "HowTo install a WarZ Server" Tutorial, we downloaded the Files @ 28th March so its UP2DATE.


Dude that guy was a straight up lying scamming cunt. Here's a legit release:

http://forum.ragezone.com/f790/warz-source-code-923017/
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Sarpton on April 29, 2013, 09:20:45 am


Dude that guy was a straight up lying scamming cunt. Here's a legit release:

http://forum.ragezone.com/f790/warz-source-code-923017/


Ha, well there you go.  What a joke this game is.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on May 16, 2013, 03:44:29 pm
Next patch will add corn to the feces I hope.

ahahha-ahah-ah-ah-ahaha

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put that quote next to the thread title, and delete everything else.
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on May 24, 2013, 09:22:48 am
Does someone really play this shit?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: JackieChan on May 24, 2013, 09:18:56 pm
Does someone really play this shit?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
i can sell you War Z for  2 loompoint and 50k
Title: Re: The War Z
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on May 24, 2013, 09:25:48 pm
50k would be more like it