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cRPG => Announcements => Topic started by: Harald on June 28, 2012, 05:28:17 pm

Title: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Harald on June 28, 2012, 05:28:17 pm
When we added the exclusive banners we made the mistake to increase the auction rate for the first few days so people could get them quicker. The default interval is a new banner auction every ~4 hours to distribute them evenly across a month. We are running out of time now and if your banner is expiring in the next days you might lose it/auction for your slot not showing up (though you can bid on another banner slot to renew your own, doesn't have to be the same).
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Digglez on June 28, 2012, 09:47:51 pm
if you win an auction but still have time on your remaining banner, does the NEW banner activate on purchase OR when old one expires?
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on June 28, 2012, 09:57:37 pm
Giev (str_Rat's) gold back!
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Harald on June 28, 2012, 10:06:08 pm
Any remaining time is lost.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Luminus on June 29, 2012, 04:50:25 pm
I renewed the banner by winning another auction. The remaining time was not finished, and the clan has kept the same banner. (No one bought today). And 3 days since I can not update the banner, it is on the website, but not in the game. Is this normal?
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: bilwit on June 30, 2012, 09:38:17 am
I renewed the banner by winning another auction. The remaining time was not finished, and the clan has kept the same banner. (No one bought today). And 3 days since I can not update the banner, it is on the website, but not in the game. Is this normal?

I've been asking around about this too (and on IRC) and nothing so far :? Even non-expired banners can't update -- the client hasn't been updating the banner texture at all.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: bosco on June 30, 2012, 10:11:48 am
Clan support is dead.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: BaleOhay on June 30, 2012, 04:27:09 pm
My banner expired but no new banners are up in the auction house. Maybe they are aware of an issue but do not feel like talking about it.


Hope they figure it out soon, I would like to get my banner going again.

Ohay
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Harald on June 30, 2012, 04:41:37 pm
Right now auctions are only showing up for a few minutes or not at all. The system was not designed to handle so many expiring banners on a short notice, so it is acting a bit weird. It should be back to normal on Monday.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Nessaj on June 30, 2012, 07:06:03 pm
How about the timing? When exactly do they show up, when the timer runs out on a banner or at X hours prior to that as written in the description?

If there was a small window at least people would have a chance to grab their banner.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Molly on June 30, 2012, 10:36:22 pm
How about the timing? When exactly do they show up, when the timer runs out on a banner or at X hours prior to that as written in the description?

If there was a small window at least people would have a chance to grab their banner.
This. Make a pop up text on the ladder page of a clan like 7 days prior to running out of the banner and give us the possibilty to buy it back w/o auction.
Like "Deposit 100k gold in the clan bank and press yes".
Gold sink? Fine with us.
Having no banner for 1 week or more? Sucks! May be a rather small issue for singleplayer buyers but it sucks for bigger clans relying on team play.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Harald on July 01, 2012, 12:43:15 am
> When exactly do they show up, when the timer runs out on a banner or at X hours prior to that as written in the description?
Normally the auction will start 4 days prior and ends 1 hour before a banner expires.

> If there was a small window at least people would have a chance to grab their banner.
We have so many banners expiring this weekend (i think 60) that there is just not enough time to create auctions for all of them. Some will be skipped, others might show up for just a few minutes. We need to stick to the default interval of one auction every 4 hours or we run into the same problem again next month.

> Make a pop up text on the ladder page of a clan like 7 days prior to running out of the banner and give us the possibilty to buy it back w/o auction.
That's exactly what we don't want, there should always be the possibility for new clans to get an exclusive banner if they really want to (i.e., if they got the money).
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: arowaine on July 01, 2012, 01:58:14 am
do people will get refound for the money they lose example we did have to buy 2 banner slots to have one for some reason the first one we did buy wasnt working at all...we had to buy a new one ans since i understand banner are gold sink i have no probleme with that still kinda pissing people off to pay for nothing...would be nice people who payed for more then 1 banner slot get refound example:
Occitan_Arowaine   Marketplace auction #992 won   28/06/2012 07:16:01

Received:28/06/2012 07:16:01
Marketplace auction #992 won
You have won the auction #992 with the highest bid of 100101 gold. The exclusive banner was assigned to your clan. The remainder of your deposit was transferred to you.

we didnt receive the banner slots we had to buy a new one. since im making paying clan menbers for banner kinda sucks to make them pay for no reason.
I have no problem with banner stuff isnt fix yet or wasnt supose to handle that much banner at the same time or whatever.
Just nicely asking for refound what we pay and we dont have thanks you.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: SixThumbs on July 01, 2012, 02:56:30 am
Gold sinks for all, Arrowaine! Even if you're like me, a generally solo player, and because of a design oversight you lose 10% of your personal war chest! At least for you others had a chance to share in the loss.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 31, 2012, 05:25:57 am
The system was not designed to handle so many expiring banners on a short notice...

Now this truly surprises me, given how many rabid fights have occurred in this community over the banner packs alone, and how popular banners are.
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: Jano10 on July 31, 2012, 06:26:01 am
When we added the exclusive banners we made the mistake to increase the auction rate for the first few days so people could get them quicker. The default interval is a new banner auction every ~4 hours to distribute them evenly across a month. We are running out of time now and if your banner is expiring in the next days you might lose it/auction for your slot not showing up (though you can bid on another banner slot to renew your own, doesn't have to be the same).

Is there a way to get exclusive banner quicker than auction?

Like lets say we can get it cheaper at the auction hall, but we can buy em more expensive at the Shop?

That would be far cooler if you ask me just a suggestion :D
Title: Re: Expiring exclusive banners
Post by: kinngrimm on September 14, 2012, 09:35:47 am
- increase banner holding time to 3 months
- give already suggested warning message to be able to prolong a certain banner slots

reasons:
- With this banner system, and the included suggestions, outdated clans still loose banner slot and free up slots for other new established factions, there will still be a fluctuation, just a slower fluctuation.
- Established clans, have done already a lot of work and put a lot of effort into establishing their clan, why make it tougher on them then on the new upcoming clans which still have to prove themselves. Yes this is elitist, still i in this case i find it reasonable.
- Less micromanagement