Why would you want to whore agility, especially early on I find strength way more important than agility.(click to show/hide)
Means you can use decent armor/weapons (pick em up if you don't have any yet) and actually kill enemies and take a few hits.
Agility is nice and all but if you go agility before strength you won't be very usefull (unless you sit on a robot-horse and trample your way to victory in a peasant outfit).
I agree that strenght is more important early on but I had gotten the general feeling on the forums and in the servers that after getting the strenght you need for your gear, that you should then stack agility as this would allow you to get a high wm and alot of wpp which i gather is good.
Horse Archer build. Pretty fun, but will be nerfed after patch because of whiners who can't hit the horse :rolleyes:
Unless people stop whining, I wouldn't recommend it after the patch.
You know it takes me around 12 arrows roughly with a strong bow to kill a damned cataphract from full health? Hitting the horse isn't the issue, killing the damned thing is. :)
There's your problem. It's not supposed to be just you shooting at me. If you have just 4 archers shooting at me, 3 arrows each and I'm meat. In a server with a 120 and around 58 on both sides at all times, it shouldn't be a problem. And honestly, I'd say 12 arrows is a bit too much. Maybe 8 max if you had a strong bow. You honestly think HA are being helped at all atm or even in the new patch? Maybe pure archers need to be nerfed, but not a HA. Ask any HA and they will tell you the same.
lol, MoneyShot WAS a HA. :rolleyes: Why do you think he only went up to strongbow. And the argument that it SHOULD take multiple people to kill ONE other player build is a failed one. If so I want my 1her no shield to require 8 people to put down, working together, all attacking simultaneously. I think that's fair considering the skill-level required opposed to riding an armored horse and shooting people from range.
Sure, I see your perspective. But think about what kind of armor a HA is wearing. 2 arrow hits and u'd be dead. You know what I mean since u have a HA. I think it's pretty fair that HA can shoot from range considering how slowly it takes to build one because you can never get enough xp/gold from being far away from the battle.
Most HA's are in khergit elite armor, on cataphracts. Heavy armor, on armored horse is pretty damned good armor. Sure you can go less if you want to, but that just means you're either:
A: Taking a downgrade in capability for the lulz
B: Haven't built your HA properly
C: Are still low level.
Age 50 [35]
Kills 644
Death 314
Gold 39193
Generation 5
Attribute Points 0
Skill Points 2
Weapon Proficiency Points 8
You are currently ranked #599
Strength 18
Agility 25
One Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Polearm 11 [1 WPF cost]
Crossbow 208 [9 WPF cost]
Ironflesh 6
Power Strike 6
Athletics 8
Weapon master * 8
What crossbow is that ? and what kind of armor do you use ?
I bet you're going to have pinpoint accuracy after the patch :D
Age 37 [22]
Experience 1015000
Level up at 1086553
Kills 15
Death 87
Gold 7407
Generation 1
Attribute Points 0
Skill Points 0
Weapon Proficiency Points 1
Convert 2 Skill Points into 1 Attribute point.
Strength 15
Agility 12
One Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Polearm 128 [7 WPF cost]
Archery 1 [1 WPF cost]
Crossbow 1 [1 WPF cost]
Throwing 1 [1 WPF cost]
Ironflesh 4
Power Strike 5
Shield 3
Athletics 3
Riding 4
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 0
Weapon master * 4
My Character Build AFTER THE PATCH:
Age 44 [29]
Experience 3607043
Level up at 4420577
Kills 2770
Death 1617
Gold 11422
Generation 2
Attribute Points 0
Skill Points 1
Weapon Proficiency Points 1
Convert 2 Skill Points into 1 Attribute point.
Strength 34
Agility 3
One Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed 115 [6 WPF cost]
Polearm 1 [1 WPF cost]
Archery 1 [1 WPF cost]
Crossbow 1 [1 WPF cost]
Throwing 1 [1 WPF cost]
Ironflesh 11
Power Strike 11
Shield 0
Athletics 0
Riding 0
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 0
Weapon master * 1
BTW: DOES POWERDRAW EFFECT AIMING RETICLE NAO??
Why the 16 strength? Just asking out of curiosity.
If you had saved one point in IF you could have had 12 ps and 36 str?
Ya but when i get to lvl 31 ill have 12 PS and IF so thats better
pure throwing build :wink:
lvl 23
Strength 30
Agility 3
you going to keep going power throw as you get closer to 30?
also cold stone i was thinking about a build like yours can you post again at 30 with your experiances of 10 ps 10 ph and 0 IF, seems like you'll just be a pin chusion without the IF and no shield skill?
Yes and i will. My plan is to continue that way. Iam not going to put any points in PS. The str gives me decent hp ( against archers ) though i cant stand a melee fight - just blocking as long as possible until someone else kills the guy :P But again..this is probably not a very efficient build. Its just...i like it that way :)
Assyrian
This is my war elephant
Strength 24
Agility 18
One Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Two Handed 1 [1 WPF cost]
Polearm 1 [1 WPF cost]
Archery 1 [1 WPF cost]
Crossbow 1 [1 WPF cost]
Throwing 111 [5 WPF cost]
Ironflesh 0
Power Strike 0
Shield 3
Athletics 0
Riding 6
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 8
Weapon master * 0
Ideally would go only 7 ppowerdraw/powerstrike and use the extra 1 atheltics and 1 weaponmaster put all in 2h to be more effective melee as archery most ineffective class at this point.
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Crap build, using no 2h with high 2h proficiency is beyond stupid.
I'm undecided whether I'm going to put those 3 skill points into IF or shield. I generally don't have many issues with being shieldless (getting shot is a part of that decision, live with it I say) so I'm most likely going to put those 3 points into IF for the extra HP (even though my armor is medium at best).
Crap build, using no 2h with high 2h proficiency is beyond stupid.
Go for shield, Gorath.
My first thought would be "Pfft...showoff...".
Armor: Sugarloaf Helmet, Lordly Heraldic Transitional Armour, Hourglass Gauntlets, Shynbaulds
Wepons: Masterwork Long Hafted Blade, Throwing Lances, Throwing Lances, Throwing Lances
I'm going for a pure ogre build this time, with great long bardiche:(click to show/hide)
If I had loomed the bardiche, this could one-hit-kill most everybody. Also, in plate armor, you can take lots of pain due to the high HP.
Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Converted: 6
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 1
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 45
Two Handed: 160
Polearm: 20
I would like to meet you at the battlefield and see how many hits you can withstand with such build. I have great interest in extreme builds :)
wtf?What?
Age 45 [30]
Generation 3
Strength 21
Agility 18
One Handed 146
Polearm 6
Power Strike 7
Shield 5
Athletics 6
Weapon master 5
Quite decent build, but i'm not really sure if standard 18/18 isn't better. Playing finished build as lvl31 might be better as 21/18. For lvl30 build i'd rather go for 18/18 with 6 shield, 6wm, 5 ridding/power throw/ironflesh, Heirloomed side sword with it's insane damage do just fine with ps6 or even ps5. 18/21 on the other hand sound interesting, i might try it next time.
I use subpar equipment like Knightly Kite Shield, so it's not ultra competetive. It's awful that there is just one top tier infantry sword (and it's called side sword).
It's true... pretty much everyone either uses the side sword or the spammitar... with 80% of side swords
(Why did I heirloomed my knightly arming sword ? :( )
Because it's cool. Knightly arming sword is the best looking 1h sword, IMO. You get style points. Also, it's quite good, maybe not the best, but still decent.
Age 45 [30]
Generation 3
Strength 21
Agility 18
One Handed 146
Polearm 6
Power Strike 7
Shield 5
Athletics 6
Weapon master 5
Quite decent build, but i'm not really sure if standard 18/18 isn't better. Playing finished build as lvl31 might be better as 21/18. For lvl30 build i'd rather go for 18/18 with 6 shield, 6wm, 5 ridding/power throw/ironflesh, Heirloomed side sword with it's insane damage do just fine with ps6 or even ps5. 18/21 on the other hand sound interesting, i might try it next time.
I use subpar equipment like Knightly Kite Shield, so it's not ultra competetive. It's awful that there is just one top tier infantry sword (and it's called side sword).
What?
Age 45 [30]
Kills 267
Death 199
Gold 53880
Generation 12
Strength 24
Agility 15
One Handed 146
Power Strike 8
Shield 5
Athletics 5
Weapon master 5
OP 1h/shield build imo. xD If you know how to use it, this is the way to go.
Equipment:
Banded Armor, Nordic Warlord Helmet, Mail Gauntlets, Mail Boots, Huscarl Shield, Masterwork Nordic Champion's Sword
I also bought Druzhina Elite Armor now with Scale Gauntlets and Vaegir War Mask... badass. xD
Mr Turtle build:I didnt know you had such an "unbalanced build". Great work there, you still kill people with 2-3 hits (except perhaps... real turtles).
* One Handed: 1
* Two Handed: 132
* Polearm: 1
* Archery: 1
* Crossbow: 85
* Throwing: 1
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How is it possible to have so much xp with so few K/D ?
I've basically two time less xp and twice Death and Kill, I don't get it !!!
Is there some magical server with X10 all the time ?
Siege server doesnt count your K/D(click to show/hide)
How is it possible to have so much xp with so few K/D ?
I've basically two time less xp and twice Death and Kill, I don't get it !!!
Is there some magical server with X10 all the time ?
My build exactly. Quite efficient :)
Long dagger must be a terrific weapon with 3 PS. :P
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
* Strength: 36
* Agility: 3
* Hit points: 93
* Converted: 8
* Ironflesh: 11
* Power Strike: 11
* Weapon Master: 1
* Two Handed: 118
I'm trying this build at the moment. I'm lvl 26 and it's pretty funny. But i regret the point in Weapon Master, since it allows me to go from 113 to 118 wpf. I should have put it eslewhere. Next gen i'll try same build with polearms.
Btw, is it possible to go to 12 in a skill ??
Neresto_HRE
(Generation 10)
Weapons i use regulary:
- Masterwork Heavy Bastard
- Heavy Morningstar
- Tempered Danish
Strength 21
Agility 18
Two Handed 154
Ironflesh 0
Power Strike 7
Shield 1
Athletics 6
Riding 3
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 0
Weapon master 6
Build works fine. I love my riding for some different gameplay on my way to 31.
Probably will keep at least 3 riding in my final build. Shield 1 is totally enough for 2hand (old board shield does the job)
1-Hit most with Morningstar / 2Hit Most with both swords.
If you are having fun, then you are doing it correctly.and how long does it to gain at least one skill point?
I personally convert 2 skill points into 1 attribute point though, so when I hit level 30 I have even multiples of 3 for my stats.
and how long does it to gain at least one skill point?
When you start a new character, you start with 2 skill points to spend, and every time you level you gain an additional skill point.hahaha, i realize i was dumb, that was quite obvious)) thank you!
Commonly, people convert either 0, 2 (the most common) or 8, though occasionally more with specialty builds.
It is not really needed if you do not max out your skills (Skills can ony be raised to a maximum of the base attribute/3, such as if I had a 21 Strength then maximum Power Draw I could have is 7).
hahaha, i realize i was dumb, that was quite obvious)) thank you!
thnx)(click to show/hide)
You might wanna focus on a max of 2 wepons styles in the next gen, just my suggestion.
Made a Boromir build. Probably not too good but will be interesting to see how it works out.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 90
Two Handed: 140
I'll get a MW Longsword to go with it and run around like Boromir.
Level 27 (2,525,000 xp)
Strength: 17
Agility: 18
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 3
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
Archery: 151
Horse archer, able to play as footed too. Was wondering if it shall be better to go 21 18 or 18 21... Suggestions?
Bobthehero_BRD
Level 30
Strength 29
Agility 9
Weapon proficiency
Available points: 4
One Handed 130
Two Handed 1
Polearm 1 1
Archery 1 1
Crossbow 1
Throwing 1 1
Skills
Available points: 1
Iron Flesh 9
Power Strike 9
Shield 0 3
Athletics 3 3
Riding 0 3
Horse Archery 0 6
Power Draw 0 3
Power Throw 0 3
Weapon Master 3
Hi
This is my goal for next generation :When i have lvl 31, i retire.(click to show/hide)
Age45 [30]
Experience5,608,113
+3,127,730
Level up at8,735,843
Kills671
Deaths369
Rank#2318
Attributes
Strength 15
Agility 24
Weapon proficiency
Two Handed 150 10 points per wpf
Polearm 7 1 point per wpf
Crossbow 85 3 points per wpf
Skills
Iron Flesh 3
Power Strike 5
Athletics 8
Weapon Master 7
not going to retire anymore. 8 wpm at level 31. 155 2h and 95 xbow wpf then.
why all these "XqualityA" wannabe? :?what? Ive been a 2h-xbower for 4 gens now. And why am I a Xq wannabe? This is bullshit. We got a completly different playing style and I'm pretty sure that I cant be a xq clone because hes just way better than me. And the last thing is that he got way over 130 xbowwpf and I just got 85.
Strength 23
Agility 15
Archery 146
Iron Flesh 7
Power Strike 1
Athletics 5
Power Draw 7
Weapon Master 5
How is this for my archery build? I took the IF for the added survivability as I tend to get a few more whacks using a Longbow due to its slow speed, plus I can counter-snipe those pesky archers that try to take me first. I do pretty good damage, can take most targets in a couple of shots with good accuracy. PS was just the last point I had.
Seem alright to you guys?
Ninja build
Shield: 1
hello, i reached for the fist time lvl 31 and i woud like to know what i v done wrong, then next char will be better 8-)
Attributes
Strength 18
Agility 21
Weapon proficiency
Polearm 164
Skills
Iron Flesh 6
Power Strike 6
Athletics 7
Weapon Master 7
i mainly use great long maul or long awlpike
go straight to the point, dont be tender.
Attributes
Strength 36
Agility 3
Weapon proficiency
Polearm 111
Skills
Iron Flesh 11
Power Strike 11
Athletics 1
Equipment
Weapon: English Bill/Scythe (latter for when low on money)
Helmet: Mail Coif
Body: Byrnie
Legs: Mail Chausses
What do you guys think about this build?
Attributes
Strength 36
Agility 3
Weapon proficiency
Polearm 111
Skills
Iron Flesh 11
Power Strike 11
Athletics 1
Equipment
Weapon: English Bill/Scythe (latter for when low on money)
Helmet: Mail Coif
Body: Byrnie
Legs: Mail Chausses
What do you guys think about this build?
Attributes
Strength 36
Agility 3
Weapon proficiency
Polearm 111
Skills
Iron Flesh 11
Power Strike 11
Athletics 1
Equipment
Weapon: English Bill/Scythe (latter for when low on money)
Helmet: Mail Coif
Body: Byrnie
Legs: Mail Chausses
What do you guys think about this build?
Strength: 36I wouldn't put that 1 point into riding, since there are no horses that can be ridden with 1 riding skill :|
Agility: 3
Hit points: 95
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 12
Power Strike: 10
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 1
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 113
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Just wondering if anyone can critique my build.
Age 45 (lvl 30)
Str: 21
Agi: 18
IF: 7
PS: 7
AT: 6
WM: 3
Two-Handed: 132 (all of my WPF)
My tincan is a heavy shield infantry atm, but I'm turning him into a heavy cav/support/tank this retirement; here's my future build. If anyone can offer suggestions I'd be grateful.
Level: 30(click to show/hide)
Level: 31(click to show/hide)
Also any suggestions on what I should loom? Weapon, shield, horse, or armor?
Thanks again.
good build.Thanks for going over my build and helping me on making up my mind, friend, I really appreciate it. +1
with the weapon heirloom nerf, i'll go first with maxed body armor... is the best investment atm.
i would go Coat of plates, Transitional or even Milanese.
coat of plates full loomed reach 57 body armor.
transitional full loomed should reach 60 body armor.
milanese full loomed should reach 66 body armor.
EDIT:
regarding the build... instead 150 1h and 62 polearm i would go 135 1h and 102 polearm.... trading 15 1h WPF for 40 polearm WPF.
Ahem i thought all body armors would only give up to +6 armor when fully loomed :?:
Anyways nice set of items u got there.
Your build however lacks IF and with the mallet u need to be up close so it pays off to be able to take more hits.
10 PS users will still cut u down in 2 hits regardless of your loomed armor set
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I'd suggest an 18/21 build. You're losing out on a decent amount of athletics by converting 10 skill points, which is very important for footwork. The tradeoff would be about 10 wpf I think, which I doubt would be nearly as noticeable as 2 athletics and an extra point of powerstrike
Right now i've got 5 athletics and imo it's enough. I just thought those 10 wpf would make the difference, because 18/21 is quite common, i guess.
i was both 18/21 and 21/18 for total of 8 gens, fun and everything, but as i am sucky at blocking, i need more raw power not to have to swing twice :D more battletime = more room for error for me :P
Yeah, blocking is pretty hard. But that's the reason why i thought much agi would be nice...to outspam those guys who can block like everything (Which makes me rage, tbh xD)
after spending some time with more agi-oriented builds, i decided to try out the different approach and roll on the str boat, i was thinking about this:
* Strength: 24
* Agility: 15
* Hit points: 69
* Skills to attributes: 8
* Ironflesh: 5
* Power Strike: 8
* Shield: 0
* Athletics: 5
* Riding: 0
* Horse Archery: 0
* Power Draw: 0
* Power Throw: 0
* Weapon Master: 5
* Two Handed: 148
5athl should be enuff to do the footwork and 8 ps just seems so sweet...was thinking of swapping IF to riding for the fun, but as i might stick to this char and not retire it anymore, i have to think twice about it...any tips, suggestions?
Love that build its the best 2h build imo.Nearing retirement on my AGI 2H spam build, I think I'm going this way next.
30 Strengthno wonder you were bragging about how little damage my puny 5pd arrows did you your plate clad body
9 Agility
10 Powerstrike
10 Ironflesh
3 Athelthics
3 Weapon Master
Right now I'm using a level 30 (skipped) 2h/xbow build.Wanna join Ninja? :wink:
Str: 15
Agi: 24
2h: 140
Xbow: 124
Iron Flesh: 2
Power Strike: 5
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
So far I've just got an Arbalest, Steel Bolts, and Bastard Sword while wearing a Ragged Outfit and Rus Shoes. I plan to get either a Morningstar, Bar Mace, or Miaodao when I acquire enough funds.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 36
Agility: 3
Hit points: 95
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 12
Power Strike: 11
Two Handed: 113
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6
Riding: 6
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 153
I am going for this gimmick build this gen:No WPF builds ftw
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 9
Agility: 30
Hit points: 44
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 0
Athletics: 10
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
I'll use a light lance, which is the fastest and longest thing for a 9 STR char. I guess I'll bounce a lot in CC, though, but we'll see.
Monk: I had a 27/12 pole build 2 gens ago, and it was quite effective with an awlpike. Maybe 24/15 will be even better.
Previous Generation (Pure Str):
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 36
Agility: 3
Hit points: 95
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 12
Power Strike: 11
Two Handed: 113
Using +2 Heirloomed Churburg Cuirass with 59 armor + 12 Heavy Gauntlets = 71 Armor with 95 hitpoints.
Almost always top of the scoreboard, slow as hell but you can 1 hit almost anyone and laugh at archers or 1h trying to do some damage to you. One of the most fun characters I played so far.
Current build (1h Heavy Cav):
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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6
Riding: 6
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 153
Usually Charger, Plated charger or Rouncey if I want to save some money + arabian sword and light crossbow for horse archers and pikemen. Like it very much, started playing yesterday and already almost 2:1 K/D ratio but you need a pile of gold for it to work.
Right now I'm using a level 30 (skipped) 2h/xbow build.
Str: 15
Agi: 24
2h: 140
Xbow: 124
Iron Flesh: 2
Power Strike: 5
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
So far I've just got an Arbalest, Steel Bolts, and Bastard Sword while wearing a Ragged Outfit and Rus Shoes. I plan to get either a Morningstar, Bar Mace, or Miaodao when I acquire enough funds.
You only need 4 points in shield for plate covered round shield, which is a good suggestion.(click to show/hide)
You only need 4 points in shield for plate covered round shield, which is a good suggestion.
You could use Huscarl's Round Shield with Shield 5, but not while mounted.
I'm certain that when you're mounted, most 2H weapons you use will become 1-handed, and recieve a major disadvantage because it's in mandatory 1H mode.(click to show/hide)
Thought about going 2h-cav next time. Any good?
On Foot i'd stick to the claymore i'm using right now and mounted i'd go for a morningstar.
I'm certain that when you're mounted, most 2H weapons you use will become 1-handed, and recieve a major disadvantage because it's in mandatory 1H mode.
There are few exceptions (Ones that I know) in Polearm, which are Hafted Blade and Long Hafted Blade.
They go into a held-by-both-hands awesome (buggy, too) looking slashing mode when mounted.
Meh. :?Nothing stops you from using 2H Cav, though!
Uriel Septim! I'm sorry but you must see this(click to show/hide)
Pls give me advices, mates. Is it possible or useless to take such a radical way ?
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 6
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 164
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 7
I don't rely on my surviving ability. I just want to win all my fights with a character breaking fight speed records (attacking and def with shield). Maybe i used ability points for nothing (24 agi) because of an obscure maximal fight speed i would have reached without knowing it. Help ?
My brother advices me to do that to be prepared against cavalery :
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 6
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 155
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 75
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Is there a difference between One Handed: 155 and One Handed: 164 ? Thank you.
Hello all. I have a question to ask. AM I TOTALLY MAD ?
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Hit points: 61
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 164
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 7
Guard_Lansamur
Main
Age45 [30]
Generation14
Kills180
Deaths194
Rank#18110
Attributes
Strength 24
Agility 15
Weapon proficiency
One Handed 140
Polearm 54
Skills
Power Strike 8
Shield 5
Athletics 5 l
Weapon Master 5
_Sultan_of_Swing_ level 30, gen.2
1h/throwing
Strength 20
Agility 15
Weapon proficiency
One Handed 120
Throwing 102 5 points per wpf
Skills
Iron Flesh 5
Power Strike 6
Shield 5
Athletics 4
Riding 0
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 6
Weapon Master 5
Weapons: elite scimitar/niuweidao & Jarids/javelins.
Light armor.
Any tips for next generation? More WM?
Thanks
Bobthehero_BRD
Level 30
Strength 29
Agility 9
Weapon proficiency
Available points: 4
One Handed 130
Two Handed 1
Polearm 1 1
Archery 1 1
Crossbow 1
Throwing 1 1
Skills
Available points: 1
Iron Flesh 9
Power Strike 9
Shield 0 3
Athletics 3 3
Riding 0 3
Horse Archery 0 6
Power Draw 0 3
Power Throw 0 3
Weapon Master 3
What would you guys say about this sort of a build for a lvl30 archer?
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 7
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 80
Polearm: 1
Archery: 145
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Probably would use a langes messer as a backup 2h. I guess you could make the build into a 18/21, if athletics is important enough for running away.
Should I ask for some gold if I trade my mw german for some bow? Frankly, I just find 2h to be unfun to play atm in crpg, duels are a snoozefest and the thrust is just bad.
Also wondering what is the current consensus on how the bows match up, I take that yami might actually not be that good due to the missile speed. What about the Rus bow? I'd probably take another quiver than slightly better half the shots.
Help me decide, please.
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Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 8
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 156
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 10
Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 58
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 164
At lvl 31
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 58
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 156
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
I'm not going to retire because I figure 6 PS is going to do far more for me than an heirloomed weapon, especially considering I change weapons so frequently
if you're not going to retire, then better to plan it for 32.33 or 34 is better.
33 or 34 is better.
At lvl 31
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 58
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 156
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
I'm not going to retire because I figure 6 PS is going to do far more for me than an heirloomed weapon, especially considering I change weapons so frequently
Why so much higher Agi than Str?I already have a str build (27/12), which is my main
My unfinished build lvl 33, not far from 34 now.
Strength: 22
Agility: 21
Hit points: 65
Converted: 10
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 6
Two Handed: 159
Aiming for a 24/21 PS8, maybe 5IF or 7WM. With a mw longsword and medium armour (+2 haubergeon), pretty balanced, doing well in battle and duel.
really nice build. i would go 7WM instead +1 IF... as +9 wpf imo is better than 2hp.I would go 7WM instead and put it into polearms. 77 WPF is imo better than 2hp.
I would go 7WM instead and put it into polearms. 77 WPF is imo better than 2hp.
Strength 15
Agility 15
Archery 140
Iron Flesh 5
Athletics 5
Power Draw 5
Weapon Master 5
At level 25 any suggestions?
nah why going 77 polearm and 159 2h? those 77 polearm wpf will be 40ish in full gear. or you go 120/120 (but 2h/polearm hybrids are still pretty useless.) or you put up 2-3 throwing and use that seventh wm to give it some use.ever heard of the bamboo spear?
imo still better maxing 2h from 159 to 168.
ever heard of the bamboo spear?
well i was discussing builds.. but that trolling tone is kinda boring. yeah i know bamboo spear. enjoy that with 50 effective wpf.Im not even trying to troll you man. Its even effective with 1 wpf, it kicks ass with 77 (50?)
Ironflesh: 5
Ironflesh: 5
Two times the IF like a goddamn boss.
This is my planned build for 32
Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 4
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 94
Crossbow: 161
Primarily a sniper, but added shield skill to be more viable for Strat looting/playing when arbs/xbows are out or otherwise unavailable.
Oi guys I retired for the last time (most likely) I have MW wisbys, huscarl, spammitar and heraldic mail, I have not yet decided about what build to go But I have been thinking about going 24/15+5cav or 21/18 without cav, suggestions?
I am planning to respect and try this hybrid build. Please let me know what you think:
Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 12
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 119
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 147
Throwing: 1
If I like it, it will got to:
Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Hit points: 55
Attributes to skills: 1
Skills to attributes: 12
Ironflesh: 1
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 121
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 147
Throwing: 1
I hope it would work as passable crossbowman in the sun, and very good twohander when it rains.
With only 4 riding you will be easy prey for other horsemen. Remove 2 points of ironflesh and put into riding.
MW GLA/ MW german poleaxe (whichever i feel like using)+champ destrier/cata/courser+ MW heavy lance+ 78 body armor
build:
18/18@30
5IF
6PS
6riding
6ath
6WM
Would I kill anything with this? (;
Strength: 18as long as you dont want to use the huscarl shield, yes.
Agility: 21
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 4
Athletics: 7
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 130
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 106
Should I sacrifice a shield point to go for 120 in polearm? I wouldn't use the shield in one on one combat, only when going hoplite.
funny to see this silly trend to choose IF over WM...
Not silly if you're wearing plate armor.
And not silly if your main weapon of choice can only attack through the press of a button, x, while satisfying the conditions of being on horseback and accelerated enough speed :P
The point is that it's couch lancing, it's pretty much capped damage with a huge modifier from speed:
People can usually survive couch lances when they have enough IF, Armor, and Running at the same direction as I am.
At this point, wpf is only there to reduce the % break chance and the little speed bonus on damage and getting the couch ready.
so why 4 athletics if you plan to be a full time cav?Touche
Touche
Lol, see the steel shield? I plan to shield teammates while on ground rather than making kills, will need to keep up with them after all.
i'm too noob to play a ineffective jack of all trades tho... that's why i have many dedicated alts.Same here, my friend, same here.
I'm planning to dedicate an archer that never retires, here's my build at level 30
Strength: 21
Agility: 21
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 14
Athletics: 3
Power Draw: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Archery: 163
Has anyone tried 24/18 or 18/24? Can you tell the difference? Like drawing speed and damage.
Yes. I have done pretty much every possible build combination for a Warbow/Rus Bow.Thanks for going through the build and sharing your experience, I'm only at lvl 25 right now and it's 18/18 with 3ath 6pd 6wm, I can already outrun most infantry :P
24/18 is what my last build used to be before I broke level 30 (I don't retire anymore). 8 PD 3 ATHL 6 WM.
Compared to a 21/18 (which is a very solid build) your reticule is not quite as tight so headshot are noticably more difficult at long range due to the extra PD widening the reticule. Draw speed is fast with a Rus Bow and adequate with a Long Bow. The low athletics is a bit painful, especially since the build before that I had 7.
I personally was not to impressed with my damage capabilities with just 6 PD, as it forced me to use Bodkins when I prefered standards. However the high WM does allow you to headshot with ease, though I found that 7WM was enough to make me happy, and that 8 was not as useful as having more PD. However I know another archer with a 21/24 Rus Bow build and he is happy and deadly with it.
Personally I like at least 7PD and 6WM minimum for any top tier bow. As long as you keep yourself aware, you can get away with just 3 ATHL, and I do like your accuracy that you have with that build.
Im going 27/12 2hander should i get 4 ath or 4 wm?4 Athletics!
Ironflesh: 7
Power Strike: 9
Shield: 0
Athletics: 3
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
So I'm working on making this build, currently lvl 23. Ive done 5 generations of 2hander, now this is my first shielder. Im trying to imitate balbaroths build, but im not sure exactly what it is. I like speed based chars. Heres what I got, any input from experienced shielders would be appreciated.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
* Strength: 15
* Agility: 21
* Hit points: 58
* Skills to attributes: 2
* Ironflesh: 4
* Power Strike: 5
* Shield: 6
* Athletics: 7
* Riding: 0
* Horse Archery: 0
* Power Draw: 0
* Power Throw: 0
* Weapon Master: 7
* One Handed: 163
* Two Handed: 1
* Polearm: 1
* Archery: 1
* Crossbow: 1
* Throwing: 1
Also would it be worth it to go down to 3if and put shield up to 7? Thanks.
Strength 21
Agility 15
Available points: 6
Two Handed 70
Archery 134
Available points: 2
Power Strike 7
Athletics 5
Power Draw 7
Weapon Master 5
Has all the skills I need, wouldnt spit on a few IF tho.
IF is worthy when you have 65+ armor. otherwise not really. anyway with only 5PS you need either a pierce/blunt weapon or you need to train headslashing for good. and btw the best way to imitate balbaroth is by upgrading your internet connection :lol:
I have moved into a much better internet connection, so i have my first step haha. I've been using an elite schimitar, but Ill use any 1h i need to to optimize my build. With my 15/21 build Do you think it would be more useful to have 6 shield 4if or 7 shield 3 if?
My new plan 8-)
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Unused skill points: 1
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Two Handed: 163
Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 23
Skills to attributes: 10
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Two Handed: 164
Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Skills to attributes: 10
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 8
Two Handed: 173
Level 33 (35 569 612 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Attributes to skills: 1
Skills to attributes: 10
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
Two Handed: 173
Level 34 (71 139 224 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 24
Unused skill points: 1
Attributes to skills: 2
Skills to attributes: 10
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
Two Handed: 175
Level 35 (142 278 448 xp)
Strength: 20
Agility: 24
Attributes to skills: 2
Skills to attributes: 12
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8
Two Handed: 176
32 is enough to me, if i can get up high levels i do it.
Hey for my new character I want a horse thrower/polearm/xbow combo.
Any suggestions on a good build?
Guys, i want to make very very very fast and powerfull 2h, is it possible?
21-21 or 24-18
Does it work? Are there any "tweaks" I can do to improve the idea?
Because your weapon profiency is too low.You need a lot more points to wpf.100 or 200wpf?
good luck with no athletics :)
lol, didn't notice that :shock: hilarious :)
Edit: is that a good build for bec de corbin(eventually other polearm)? Maybe less in WM and more in IF? 6 athl is a must for me, hate to be slow :P
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Hit points: 64
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 154
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
hm or maybe this:
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 134
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 98
Throwing: 1
But will I hit anyone with crossbow with only ~98 wpf? Change build to 18/21 only for WM(and athl) for a bit more wpf?
Mahir_The_KusucurtmazPowerthrow 7 but no wpf?
Level 27
Strength: 18
Agility: 17 + 4
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5 + 2
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 143 + 3
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
I am planning to go for level 30 for now. the values after "+" represents what I am planning to have. I need feedback, because I'm not really really sure of it.
It feels now +2 athletics would make me completed, because I can block properly, hit properly, in a server with less than 30-40 players I'm usually in top 4 of my team. It may be luck but it seems my team wins very often. I have at least 5x for %60 of the time. The things I need to improve are catching cowardly fleeing archers, and not letting 2handers outreaching me with their fast movement speed. Even with 5 athletics, my only problem seems to be tk'ing teammates. I die because of careless teammates, more often than the enemy. Also I believe with high movement speed, the speed bonus of my attacks will increase; letting me deal more damage.
Guys, i want to make very very very fast and powerfull 2h, is it possible?
The best build, in my opinion, for level 30 is 21/18:
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Skills to attributes: 8
Iron Flesh: 4
Power Strike: 7
Athletics: 6
Weapon Master: 6
If Mikelson wants a very, very, very fast build I would suggest 12/30 or 15/27 but good luck lasting more then two or three minutes into the battle if you're not a sly SOB.
15/27 at level 30 is not possible without dropping IF and WM so...
15/24 with heavy armor is not that faster than a 21/18 with the same weight. but 21/18 have +10 hp, +16% damage at the expenses of a barely noticeable speed increase as the weight encumberance is calculated after ATH bonus... so +3 ATH and +9 agility will not give you that much advantage over a balanced 21/18 while 10hp and +2 PS will help you really a lot. and you'll be able to use all the 2h weapons too.
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Everything above 5/6 wpm is a waste As Long As you don't wanna Be à Hybrid.
if you want to both fast and deadly you either should go 15/24 or 18/21.
Trust me its fast enough.
15/24
4 IF (Makes sure you wont die from One hit, usually.)
5 PS
8 Athletics (Incredible Important and usefull)
6 WPM (~ 150 wpm when all Dumped into One melee skill which is more than enough.)
18/21
4 IF
6 PS (the additional Str also allows you to use alot of good weapons such As flamberge greatlongaxe or greatlongbardiche)
7 Athletics (more than enough)
6 WPM
Hope this was usefull.
I'm currently (level 30 builds) a 24/15 shielder (8 PS, 5 ath, 5 shield, 5 wm) and my next gen is either:
24/18 shielder with 8 ps, 6 ath, 6 shield
21/21 2h with 7 ps, 7 ath, 3 wm
18/24 2h with 6 ps, 8 ath, 3wm
Is any of these builds somehow flawed? I don't take IF since I like running in fairly low to mid tier armor anyway usually. Biggest issue with the 24/15 is that the speed is too slow to my liking paired with the length of one handers.
Shield is a nice thing to have in today's archer infested enviroinment though, but I could go 2 wm, 1 shield or 1 wm, 2 shield in the 2h builds without a problem if I felt like it. In melee manual blocking is way more fun anyway.
I've heard conflicting information about whether having power draw higher than the bow requirements can cause lowered accuracy or not so I don't know what to think about that. If I do go 6 PD this is what it may look like:
I decided to go for the 6 WM and 5 Shield. When I got to 6 PD the reticule didn't change from 5. This was still at 120 archery WPF and I didn't see the "proficiency is too low" message so I should be pretty good when I get to 135.
Thanks for that info, Corrado_Decimo. I've always been curious about that.
BlackMilk: I went that way anyway, but the whole reason for the dilemma wasn't to use a 6 difficulty shield, but for the additional coverage, HP and speed.
Iymore: I hear ya, crossbows get a lot more points to play around with since they don't have to invest in PD but I prefer bows and being at such short range doesn't really allow for safe reloads. :)
Thanks for the input, everyone.
Playing as a shielder/archer hybrid is
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Back after a few months and going to retire my experimental build that I came back to and rerolling a better 2h build.
How does this look:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Two Handed: 164
I'll be using my gimp nodachi, light armor and a ladder, because that's how I roll.
Shield/archery combo is a rememberance from native, and i saw some guys doing quite well with it even in cRPG, so ...
It is not about the skill points, its all about the player who controls the toon. I had some messed up builds, but they were fun to me and i killed quite a few people with them, so why not let him play anything he likes?
Just go with anything you find fun man, that is the most important part.
guys anyone got good fast polearm build? I wanna use Glaive or great long axe (takes 16 str)... I wanna move fast and hurt good is it possable?
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)1. he wants to use 16 str req weapons
Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 54
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 8
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 172
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
performs best with awlpike or bec.
1. he wants to use 16 str req weapons
2. 8 wpm? are you mad?
I have a new skip the fun character which is a thrower (Which I would love if they get some more love in ammo and/or accuracy) and anyways what build do you recommend?
Atm I have these 2:
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 7
Athletics: 5
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 54
Throwing: 140
Or
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Power Strike: 5
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 83
Throwing: 131
Any other suggestion? (I want to deal good damage but not be slow as throwing needs to be in medium range to hit unlike rangers so need footwork)
I have a new skip the fun character which is a thrower (Which I would love if they get some more love in ammo and/or accuracy) and anyways what build do you recommend?
Atm I have these 2:
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 7
Athletics: 5
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 54
Throwing: 140
Or
Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Power Strike: 5
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 7
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 83
Throwing: 131
Any other suggestion? (I want to deal good damage but not be slow as throwing needs to be in medium range to hit unlike rangers so need footwork)
Since I like throwing that much with my current build, I will go more pure next gen (no more ha and cav). Any thoughts?
I will use throwing lances and the last one is also my melee one :P
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 24
Agility: 12
Hit points: 69
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 0
Athletics: 4
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 8
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 82
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 121
In my opinion 120 wpf in throwing is not enough with the increase in weight of armours.
Some archers will nearly 1 shot you unless you wear medium+ armour.
In my opinion 120 wpf in throwing is not enough with the increase in weight of armours.+1 Sarranid leather armour, sarranid warrior cap, mail mittens, rus cavalry boots and that usually can take 3-4 arrows
Some archers will nearly 1 shot you unless you wear medium+ armour.
i tried to be hevy infrantery with low agility,but that tactic is bad.
There is too many ppl with high agility,and you are easily owned by them. Not to mention that you weapon master is too low.
you need to have at least 150wp to be able to do something.
I am going to build my char like this
lvl 32
str 21
agi 21
power strike 7
athletic 7
wm 7
two handed 163 points.
i'm actually doing the same build. 21/19 atm at level 30. well i was used to the 24/15 build with 8IF and i feel squishy now. but 21/21 with greatmaul is really nasty
I find IF ussless,because i get killed with same ammount of hits with 7if,and without 7IF. Bandits ih heavy kyak at EU6 need to hit me 5-6 times,and i have no IF,so IF is waste of points.
21 STR and 2IF i die with 2 good hits. often 1hit versus high STR with pierce (56HP)
24 STR and 8IF i die with 3-4 good hits still 2 if versus high STR with pierce (75HP)
so no. IF is useless if you have less than 50 body armor, is really nice if you have 70-75 armor.
What about repairs? I am not that rich. I spent almoust all my money on stupid things,even if i didn't do that i still be unable to use some hevy armor every round.
as i said, IF is not useless. is almost useless with anything lower than 45-50 armor (my default gear now, that's why i have only 2 IF on my actual build) but is really helpful when you wear heavy gear and plan to charge the mess taking account teamwounds, arrows, multiple attacks. my best siege build was 24/15 with maxed IF at 31. was really forgiving and with said 72 armor, i could take a lot of teamwounds, a lot of weak 1h swings, and 5 serious 2h/pole cut blows. for the mathematic sake, at the same skill level, sustaining 5 hits with the need to land 1 or 2 to kill (what a 41p morningstar with 8PS could do) will put you in advantage. especially in tight siege zones.
and even 5ATH with duel gear (black lamellar, studded leather coat, leather boots, nordic helmet) gives you enough (just enough, not a lot) mobility to counter 18/24 hiltslashers. you even have enough wpf to feel comfortable with a MW high tier greatsword (SoW, danish, german) while being a 3hit machine with longsword.
now i'm 21/19 and i'm bit disappointed as i'm an aggressive facehug kind of. often risking wounds to land chamberblocks, now i simply can't as i go down with 3 and often 2 good hits. before even with a black lamellar i was able to sustain 3 full 2h/pole hits.
it's a matter of taste and fighting style. a 21/21 will sure do better in battle in my opinion... but for siege, no.
i am god damn noob for fighting,i created one skip the fun char 19/21 build,with no IF. Used two handed war axe,and some weak armor. I went to siedge and killed 8 ppl in one round,and didn't died single time. I was faster then 60-70% of players. They swing in same second as me,but i am 1s faster and always hit them earlier. I was later raped by high gen characters but first gen characters you can easily kill,and even catch an annoying archers.
i recently started playing again after a long break, can anyone give me a nice build for a cavalary which mainly uses polearms?
I would take the first build, drop the riding and put it into ironflesh.
The other option was:
level 30
24 strength
18 agility
8 ps
6 shield
6 athletics
Ditch WM, and funnel all four of those skill points into Ironflesh.
I did some math and the difference between the 2 builds is that the WM build hits (on average) about 4% harder at most (using 31 blunt damage from the warhammer and 60 armour). For other values, it looks about the same as that 4%. I don't know from the top of my head how much of a difference 30ish wpf makes in swing speed, but I think it's less than 0,05 seconds.
So I would basically trade 4% damage (about 1 or 2 points of raw damage) a hit for 8 HP.
Sounds very appealing and I might just do that.
Note, my other 32 build was a standard 21/15 build with 5 riding. That build has an equal 70 hp, but even with full WM it hits for about 14% damage less.
I'm going to level without WM and see how it feels. If I somehow still feel I'm not hitting fast enough (using weapon with speed 100 or higher should do the trick), I can alway get the WM later on.
There's your problem. It's not supposed to be just you shooting at me. If you have just 4 archers shooting at me, 3 arrows each and I'm meat. In a server with a 120 and around 58 on both sides at all times, it shouldn't be a problem. And honestly, I'd say 12 arrows is a bit too much. Maybe 8 max if you had a strong bow. You honestly think HA are being helped at all atm or even in the new patch? Maybe pure archers need to be nerfed, but not a HA. Ask any HA and they will tell you the same.Yeah i agree. Pure archers really piss me off, but you gotta respect a good HA. It takes skill to be on a horse and shoot at the same time. If an HA kills you at high speed they got SKILLZ
Decided to stop retiring. Here's the plan for my 2h superhero:
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Level 32(click to show/hide)
Level 34(click to show/hide)
New plan:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)(click to show/hide)
Level 32 (17 784 806 xp)(click to show/hide)
Level 34 (71 139 224 xp)(click to show/hide)
The Milanese troll runner, made to be a final character to get to lv 32+
lv 30
16 str
27 agi
5ps
9ath
1wm
Where should stat go i wonder..
18 /27
or 16 / 30
.... hmmmmmmmm
Or something like 19/27 in prep for a lv 35 build :D
Atm I'm playing archer with the "Hard Hitter" example build from the wiki, but when I retire I'll go cav:woah woah that build is poorly optimized, who told you to get 6 IF while not maxing athletics?
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 4
Athletics: 2
Riding: 5
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 110
Polearm: 116
Can change athletics to IF if always riding a horse. I suggest against that though.I changed my mind and will go xbow hybrid, but thank you for the build anyways.
You did :wink:I changed my mind and will go xbow hybrid, but thank you for the build anyways.Hmmm, I was suggesting in the "change IF to Athletics if always on horseback" as 7 IF 7 PS, 5 shield, 5 WM 0 athletics if you plan to always be on horseback. But even then I still suggest against it. I find Athletics more valuable than ironflesh always since I like to be on foot often.
hey together,
here my first char. hope its not as bad as ...
lvl 31
first gen
Strength:18
Agility:18
Weapon Master:6
Athletics:4
Riding:0
Iron Flesh:6
Shield:5
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:6
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:5
One Handed:130
Two Handed:1
Polearm:1
Throwing:100
Crossbow:1
Archery:1
wearing a nordic warlord helmet, nordic champions sword, light kuyak, heavy throwing axe, huscarl shield, mail gauntlets and rus cavalary boots
is this a solid build and the right equip? or is this combination not so good??
cheers
bambak
Never, ever, ever build for 31. Always build for 30. This is what I would do, but just so you know hybriding in throwing will be hard for you if it's your first gen:
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 6
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 100
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 124
Tried this build on a STF character as archer tough it has low athletics it has high PD and high wm:Can't run away from anyone, can't melee, can't hit anything.. Looks kinda bad build to me. I think at least 7 ath is a must if you aren't going to get any PS... Also that PD increases your missile speed, wich decreases your accuaracy a lot. Yeah, you might do more damage but hitting anything is going to be kinda hard. 6 PD should be just enough for any archer build, as that's the point where your arrows won't glance on most of the armor anymore + you can hit most of your arrows (unless you suck of course).
Strength:24
Agility:18
Two Handed:10
Archery:154
Power Draw:8
Athletics:3
Weapon Master:6
At 31 you can dump the attribute point into skill points for increasing 3 athletics to 6 :)
Thoughts?
Can't run away from anyone, can't melee, can't hit anything.. Looks kinda bad build to me. I think at least 7 ath is a must if you aren't going to get any PS... Also that PD increases your missile speed, wich decreases your accuaracy a lot. Yeah, you might do more damage but hitting anything is going to be kinda hard. 6 PD should be just enough for any archer build, as that's the point where your arrows won't glance on most of the armor anymore + you can hit most of your arrows (unless you suck of course).
Can't run away from anyone, can't melee, can't hit anything.. Looks kinda bad build to me. I think at least 7 ath is a must if you aren't going to get any PS... Also that PD increases your missile speed, wich decreases your accuaracy a lot. Yeah, you might do more damage but hitting anything is going to be kinda hard. 6 PD should be just enough for any archer build, as that's the point where your arrows won't glance on most of the armor anymore + you can hit most of your arrows (unless you suck of course).why the hell do you give archery advices?
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Level 30
Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 68
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 1
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 5
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 132
Polearm: 87
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
think is a fun toon, opinion?I believe it is incredibly boring to play with such a build, but that's just my opinion.
Age ?? [21]
Strength 15
Agility 11
One Handed 61
Two Handed 53
Polearm 78
Archery 30
Crossbow 7
Throwing 12
Ironflesh 4
Power Strike 5
Shield 2
Athletics 2
Riding 3
Horse Archery 1
Power Draw 1
Power Throw 1
Weapon master 3
Armor = Nordic Footman Helmet, Byrnja , Light Strange Greaves , Horse = Rouncey , weapons = Red tassel spear , Round Cavalry Shield , yanmaodao
Age ?? [21]
Strength 15
Agility 11
One Handed 61
Two Handed 53
Polearm 78
Archery 30
Crossbow 7
Throwing 12
Ironflesh 4
Power Strike 5
Shield 2
Athletics 2
Riding 3
Horse Archery 1
Power Draw 1
Power Throw 1
Weapon master 3
Armor = Nordic Footman Helmet, Byrnja , Light Strange Greaves , Horse = Rouncey , weapons = Red tassel spear , Round Cavalry Shield , yanmaodao
can you guys help me? i'm currently lvl 30 21/18 (29 but 60k to 30)
i'm going to lvl 33 (24/18) how long it take if i gain 1m per a day?
About 31 days from level 30 to 33 @ 1 million a day (level 33 is 35'569'612 xp)
level 33 requires 37,332,277 exp, not 35 million!
And then 43 million extra for level 34.retire is better :)
I has a sad.
retire is better :)
My two most played characters areand(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
It keeps things varied and interesting for me. :)
Role:Mainretire
Generation:15
Type:Regular
Level:33
Experience:39,105,647
Level up in:41,767,493
Next level:80,873,140
Kills/Deaths:1133/579, 2.0:1
Stats
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Attribute points:1
Strength:21+
Agility:15+
Weapon points:43
One Handed:100+
Throwing:120+
Skill points:1
Weapon Master:5
Athletics:5
Riding:0+
Iron Flesh:6+
Shield:5
Horse Archery:0+
Power Strike:7
Power Draw:0+
Power Throw:7
Dunno what im planning on further lvl´ups ..
I could either go get more str and get some more dmg on my throwing adventures..
Or i could strengthen my shield an footwork by going agi..
I could also convert stat points and go 5 riding.. but i find riding completely boring and too easy to be of any fun...
Anyways dunno what to proceed with but then again ill most likely never reach lvl 35 since i don't play that much as some of these guys lol :lol:
Okay final build gonna be.megahybrid
lvl 35
21/15
7 IF
7 PS
7 PT
5 ATH
5 RIDING
5 WM
5 SHIELD
2 HT
116 1h
120 Throw
Why not fauchard? 10 less reach, but a lot more speed and pierce damage for taking out those charging cavalry. Also, it's sheathable.(click to show/hide)
Does anyone have any good builds for a 1h / polearm hybrid character?
Best 2h build: Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 8
Athletics: 5
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 148
Good archery build for those who want to use Yumi/Horn Bow
Strength: 24
Agility: 15
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 8
Power Draw: 8
Weapon Master: 5
Two Handed: 51
Archery: 143
Very hard hitting build:Strength: 36
Agility: 3
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 11
Power Strike: 12
Polearm: 114
Very good fast turtle build for use with fast piercing weapons
Strength: 9
Agility: 27
Skills to attributes: 2
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 9
Athletics: 9
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 180
My level 35 1h buildI'm sorry, but why would you go for 6 IF instead of putting 1 additional skillpoint to riding? 5 IF and 7 riding looks really better to me, because it allows you to ride some nasty arabian pony which is quite useful for 1h/cav.(click to show/hide)
I don't see how your damage could be low with 7 PS and Miaodao, but if you really want more strength-oriented build I would suggest 24-15 (27-15 at lvl 33).
Level: 34
Strength: 33
Agility: 12
Skill to attr: 12
Power Strike: 11
Athletics: 4
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 4
Polearm: 136
Throwing: 57
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)Level: 32
Strength: 30
Agility: 12
Skill to attr: 10
Power Strike: 10
Athletics: 4
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 4
Polearm: 133
Throwing: 57
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)Jackie-of-all-trades. :D(click to show/hide)
8pt and 2wm? You better post your proficiency values because that doesn't sound viable at all.(click to show/hide)
Just hit lvl 33 !(click to show/hide)
y u no check your private message box? :(Most, if not all of them, are market transactions, so no need to read them :P
You said most of them, not all of them. That means there are unread messages.Fine, all of them are market transactions
Fine, all of them are market transactionsCuz this are the messages of all the poor souls you scammed.(click to show/hide)
Why so interested in my messages :?:
This was a useful thread to review in my early planning stage of character development, so I thought others would find it useful to continue it in these forums, especially for listing post patch builds.
Age 48 [33]
Strength 20
Agility 24
One Handed 1
Two Handed 1
Polearm 209
Archery 1
Crossbow 1
Throwing 1
Ironflesh 0
Power Strike 6
Shield 0
Athletics 8
Riding 0
Horse Archery 0
Power Draw 0
Power Throw 0
Weapon master 8
Tempered German Poleaxe, Sniper Crossbow, Steel Bolts, Thick Heavy Gauntlets, Coat of Plates, Black Helmet, Black Greaves,
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My current build, but now I'd go for 4 shield skill, I don't like shields with 5 dif anyway and difference between 4 and 5 shield skill is unnoticealbe for me.
Is this build viable?lvl 30 archer
str-18
agi-24
athletics-3
power draw-6
weapon master-8
Archery wpf-172
Thank you!
Yes
decided to respec, went a bit less hybrid this time.Nearly 3 months later, and im very close to lvl up(click to show/hide)
Nearly 3 months later, and im very close to lvl up
This will mean that ill get 3 skill point, but im not sure were to spend them, either in IF or WM. What do u guys think?
Nearly 3 months later, and im very close to lvl up
This will mean that ill get 3 skill point, but im not sure were to spend them, either in IF or WM. What do u guys think?
WM all the way man. IF should be saved for last, if ever. Nice build though. I like your previous "tri-brid" build the best, but I'm sure it was ineffective being moderately good at all things!Yeah, on my tri-brid build i felt very underpowered compared to other dedicated class as didnt have 21 agi or str. But im really satisfied with my current build, i rarely get bored of it :)
Jackie, that build must have been a pain leveling. I was actually thinking of a build like that for myself but I can't see myself waiting till like lvl 32+ to get full effectiveness. I just decided to not go one hand and went two hand/polearm cav. :(
Level 30 thrower.
24/15
8 power throw
5 athletics
5 weapon mastery
5 riding
146 proficiency in throwing.
Been having a bit of fun lately. I suck at throwing, so i switched to peasant mode with stones instead of my usual war dart/throwing lance setup. I still teamhit too often for my liking but I like to think I'm improving my aim :c
Level: 30
Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Attr to skill: 0
Skill to attr: 2
Ironflash: 3
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 7
Is this any good?
Why not take this 1 shield skill? Are you planning to reach 36 level?(click to show/hide)
Big man Build.
Why not take this 1 shield skill? Are you planning to reach 36 level?
My build is almost the same by the way, except that I got some shield skill (gonna have 4 at the next lvl) and worse k/d rating. :D Works great.
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nah man, im going to try for 5 riding or something.
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 16
Agility: 18
Hit points: 55
Attributes to skills: 1
Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 4
Athletics: 6
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 5
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 17
Two Handed: 120
Polearm: 17
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 100
Level: 36
Strength: 30
Agility: 12
Skill to attr: 2
Ironflash: 10
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 4
Athletics: 4
Power Draw: 10
Weapon Master: 4
Archery: 146
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)Level: 36
Strength: 30
Agility: 18
Skill to attr: 14
Ironflash: 1
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 10
Weapon Master: 6
Archery: 161
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)
what u guys think about this build? longbow+2bodkin arrowsCode: (archer plan) [Select]Level: 36using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)
Strength: 30
Agility: 12
Skill to attr: 2
Ironflash: 10
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 4
Athletics: 4
Power Draw: 10
Weapon Master: 4
Archery: 146
or should i exchange more skill to stats for more wp and athletics?Code: (another plan) [Select]Level: 36using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)
Strength: 30
Agility: 18
Skill to attr: 14
Ironflash: 1
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 10
Weapon Master: 6
Archery: 161
Level 33
15 str
27 agi
5 ps
9 wm
9 ath
3 pt
One Handed:38
Two Handed:167
Polearm:135
Throwing:80
Strength: 21Or:
Agility: 18
Hit points: 56
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 6
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 129
Two Handed: 19
Polearm: 19
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Strength: 18What I guess I'm asking is if the extra riding skill is worth the loss of potential damage on both ground and while mounted.
Agility: 21
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 129
Two Handed: 19
Polearm: 19
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
Which throwing weapon you use in this build?
Currently:
Strength:21
Agility:24
One Handed:58
Two Handed:18
Polearm:126
Weapon Master:4
Athletics:8
Iron Flesh:7
Power Strike:7
Planned for lvl 39:
Strength:24
Agility:24
One Handed:130
Two Handed:x
Polearm:140
Weapon Master:8
Athletics:8
Iron Flesh:8
Power Strike:8
lvl 31 optimized for current meta
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Level 36 (24 759 164 xp)
Strength: 24
Agility: 21
Hit points: 59
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 0
Athletics: 7
Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 7
One Handed: 115
Two Handed: 131
Polearm: 121
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1
A) Will I need 1h proficiency to make a 2h effective on horseback?
B) Is this viable?
C) How's my current build plan, given that the 1h, 2h and pole proficiencies are already benefitting from melee wpf sharing?
Why do people have the need to play gigantic 2h dick to show off when a butifull and fully erect one hand ghost reach can do the same or even better?