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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2011, 04:42:57 pm »
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?

I don't understand, the faction hall is full of crusader clans and god wills it bullshit...     

Btw at this time, islam enlighten the meditarenean with his philosophy and sciences, catholics were retarded barbarians.
When muslim enter spain and portugal, folks were happy cos they won more liberty and tolerance...

Actually when the moors ruled Hiberia, the jews and christians had to pay Jizzah and follow certain rules made by them. Practically.... they were second class citizens in their own land. No wonder the the moors got screwed in the end ;)
And this comes from a RL Moor ;)

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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2011, 04:44:49 pm »
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Pellegrino is right that this thread is not the place to discuss the comparative virtues of Christianity and Islam.  All I’ll say is that the shape and nature of religions change drastically depending upon where and when they are practiced.  Islam under the Umayyad Arabs was understood quite differently than it would be in al-Andalus a hundred years later by Arabs, Berbers, and Iberians.  Similarly, the Christianity of the Papacy in 1215 differs quite a bit from the Christianity of Syrian Christians in the eighth century.

As to the place of Islam in this (potential) clan, personal belief in Islam would not be a requirement for entrance.  However, you cannot accurately portray an Arab or a host of other racial groups in the Middle East, Africa, and Europe without integrating Islam as part of their identity.  As such, Islam would play a large part in the naming structure and RP of the group and would define what armor is acceptable for members.  It would not, however, be the Islamic parallel to the crusading clans.  Primarily because, although Islam understood the idea of jihād to be a religious duty, there was never the proliferation of dedicated “orders” that characterized crusading.  Additionally, while a crusade was seen as an individual, penitential duty to one’s soul, jihād (the lesser jihād, anyway) was usually seen as an obligation of the Muslim polity.

So, for those tl;dr folks:  Yes, Islam would be an important part of the RP of this clan.  Yes, it would be awesome to do some RP organization with the crusader clans.  :D  No, this clan would not be about jihād and nothing else.

So, for those interested, please let me know in the replies or PM me personally.
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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 05:21:07 pm »
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Hey dude thats what we will probably do in strat just crusade against EVERYBODY :D!
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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 05:33:10 pm »
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I'm down with this ;)

We should try to get saracen armor to cRPg tho ;) They look wicked, saw it somewhere on Taleworlds. Also, camels.

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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2011, 06:51:13 pm »
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I'm glad to see that some of you have real good historical references.
My point was not to make a parallel between each religion, but i try to make the light between muslim and islamist, ancient and present time (and the vision of ppl with stereotype) and especially to say it's good that there is a muslim clan among all the clans of crusaders!!

so good luck with your clan!!


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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2011, 09:53:00 pm »
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And catholics werent a bunch of barbarians  :rolleyes:
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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2011, 09:22:47 am »
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Well, it seems as though interest in a clan is lukewarm (although interest in historical/political discussions is not :D).  I’ll give this post one shameless bump and see what happens.  As I’ve said, put down a reply or a PM if you’re intrigued and perhaps we can put something together.  Thanks for your time, everyone.
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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 11:16:57 pm »
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I like this idea alot, I am a new (ish) player myself and have been looking around for a themed clan like you sugested.
So yes, i support this.

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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 11:23:21 pm »
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And why Thimotheus, why they can't be only muslim, why arabian not muslim?

Well the arabs with berbers were extraordinary warriors that made the "arab storm" which expansion didnt stop until the borders of France. I am sure I never heard of Somali muslims conquering Ireland...
« Last Edit: June 09, 2011, 11:25:19 pm by Timotheusthereal »

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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2011, 01:26:08 am »
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Stop whining, join the mighty army of the Turks; Kapikulu:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,7527.0.html

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Re: Interest in Islamic Themed Clan?
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