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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2015, 06:31:13 pm »
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Let's take the Wikipedia page on Adiabatic quantum computation. The idea is pretty straightforward: you know there exists a quantum-mechanical system such that you can read the solution to your problem from its ground energy state. This is your target, from which you will be able to read a solution. You take some simple quantum-mechanical system which is already in its ground energy state and make "slow" adjustments to the external conditions of the system so that the simple system becomes the target system. If the modifications are slow enough, the system will stay in its ground state, and you can read your answer from it at the end of the process. To quote Wikipedia: "According to the adiabatic theorem, we start from the ground state of Hamiltonian H_B at beginning, go through an adiabatic process, and at last ending in the ground state of problem Hamiltonian H_P. Then we measure the z-component of each of the n spins in the final state, this will produce a string z_1,z_2,\dots,z_n which is highly likely to be the result of our satisfiability problem."

The correctness of the result is function of the speed at which we try to make the system change. Under some given speed, the error probability becomes tiny. I don't know how tiny though, perhaps it's a little bit higher than in electronic computers on Earth. Regardless, plenty of extremely important real-life applications can deal with that, like scheduling problems or anything where we use heuristics for instance.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2015, 06:55:28 pm »
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Stephen Hawking AMA about this stuff
https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/3eret9/science_ama_series_i_am_stephen_hawking/

not that any of you geniuses would have any questions for someone like him since you got it all figured out, maybe it's only interesting for dummies like me  :)
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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2015, 07:32:18 pm »
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Musk, Wozniak and Hawking urge ban on AI and autonomous weapons: Over 1,000 high-profile artificial intelligence experts and leading researchers have signed an open letter warning of a “military artificial intelligence arms race” and calling for a ban on “offensive autonomous weapons”.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/27/musk-wozniak-hawking-ban-ai-autonomous-weapons
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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2015, 07:46:53 pm »
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Haha reddit is still capable of making an AMA omg. Just wanted to get that off my chest. Now that it's done I'm reading it though.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2015, 08:00:34 pm »
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But others, including Wozniak have recently changed their minds on AI, with the Apple co-founder saying that robots would be good for humans, making them like the “family pet and taken care of all the time”.

What society does to a dog that bites someone?

Good thing about AI: it is a guarantee Star Citizen will be finished.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2015, 08:38:58 pm »
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What certain people fail to realize is that Hawking and Musk saying these things is equal to a biologist saying "guys, developing a supervirus that kills absolutely everything and can't be stopped in any way would be pretty dangerous."

And then these certain people think that means AI is coming, and soon. Nope. Just like a random biologist warning against developing a supervirus when some people are trying to do just that doesn't mean that it's possible to make something like that. Again, these people have no special insight in building an AGI and what the real roadblocks are. Yudkowsky is probably the earliest AGI specialist and has had to scale back his expectations a lot to the point where he's not even sure anymore that it's possible.
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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2015, 09:32:10 pm »
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What certain people fail to realize is that Hawking and Musk saying these things is equal to a biologist saying "guys, developing a supervirus that kills absolutely everything and can't be stopped in any way would be pretty dangerous."

And then these certain people think that means AI is coming, and soon. Nope.

A drone that shoots people based on some heuristic qualifies as autonomous weapon (at least according to the definition in that article) and it's not that far fetched.
Unfortunately, less educated people read that as "omg sentient robots are gonna conquer the world in the next decade!!".

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2015, 09:55:22 pm »
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I didn't read the one about autonomous weapons, doesn't seem to have anything to do with AGI anyways.
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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2015, 10:02:41 pm »
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It's more about narrow AI than AGI, but most people immediately assume AGI when reading AI.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2015, 10:16:27 pm »
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If you think of AI as a mere tool that remains ultimately submitted to human will, then you have to think of other humans in the same way, supposing we reach AGI level. And obviously other humans are dangerous. A sufficiently complex and unpredictable AI with no absolute moral principles and the ability to harm is dangerous. One with wrong moral principles is dangerous as well. And we have no idea if there even exists a set of rules to impose to our AIs that wouldn't horribly go wrong. In fact there most likely isn't, the universe doesn't care about morality. At best we can create something that is about as benevolent as a human.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2015, 10:23:33 pm »
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If you think of AI as a mere tool that remains ultimately submitted to human will, then you have to think of other humans in the same way, supposing we reach AGI level. And obviously other humans are dangerous. A sufficiently complex and unpredictable AI with no absolute moral principles and the ability to harm is dangerous. One with wrong moral principles is dangerous as well. And we have no idea if there even exists a set of rules to impose to our AIs that wouldn't horribly go wrong. In fact there most likely isn't, the universe doesn't care about morality. At best we can create something that is about as benevolent as a human.
More on that concept here: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer
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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2015, 10:24:59 pm »
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Unfortunately, less educated people read that as "omg sentient robots are gonna conquer the world in the next decade!!".

Unfortunately, that is exactly what journalist working for Guardian has wrote in his article.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2015, 10:29:45 pm »
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No, he did not.

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2015, 11:41:58 pm »
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Well not exactly in exact sense of that word but he wrote this:

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Musk and Hawking have warned that AI is “our biggest existential threat” and that the development of full AI could “spell the end of the human race”

Not his words though, but it is sensationalism to write this shit even if Musk and Hawking said that. Like they are big names in that field anyway... Hawking is researcher but AI isn't his field and Musk is businessman.

Dunno why people like Wozniak, Gates, Musk, even scientists Hawking have an opinion on everything and they project it like it is opinion of higher being. Usually lesser humans such as myself (or Oberyn) are tasked with having an opinion for every matter :mrgreen:

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Re: The AI Revolution: Road to Superintelligence
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2015, 11:53:15 pm »
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Actually you're right, I missed that part. Looks like the writer is one of the people I mentioned, and that is definitely the kind of sensationalist bullshit that they like.