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Will Putin command further invasion of Ukraine:

He will and he should, because <random witty/boring reason>
He will, but he should not, because <random witty/boring reason>
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2520 on: April 10, 2014, 11:33:01 am »
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I liked ivani better when he said nothing. Now I know he's a completely retarded piece of shit filled to the brim with conspiracy theories and propaganda. Stick to mindlessly spamming in the game ivani, geopolitics and real world events are beyond what I'll charitably call your mind.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2521 on: April 10, 2014, 11:57:58 am »
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The EU and the U.S. is a very big store. "European values" are goods in a huge supermarket. There's a lot of need for someone of things. Someone thinks that there's a lot of useless and even harmful stuff. However, the advertising of "European values" too Intrusive and aggressive. Motto: "Nothing personal. It's only business", justifies any violations of the freedom of other people. Other non-European freedom is bad, and not the right of freedom. You really think that the Good guys (from Europe and the United States) must punish the Bad guys (who don't want to eat "European values") to eat and to think correctly (according to the recipe of the "Great White People carrying the Truth of Europe").
"European" means the right and good? If so, then all actions are fair and justified. However, Your country and the people are very much mistaken.
Anti-ivani4 message from "fighter for European values" is a good example. Only shit from Europe has no smell! Shit Oberyn, best shit from best ass!
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2522 on: April 10, 2014, 12:40:09 pm »
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But he does not care if nations are democratic or not. 
  Democracy is oppression minority  by majority  :P I personally against democracy, cos most people are idiots but still they want to influence on the country future  :evil:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2523 on: April 10, 2014, 12:44:24 pm »
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The EU and the U.S. is a very big store. "European values" are goods in a huge supermarket. There's a lot of need for someone of things. Someone thinks that there's a lot of useless and even harmful stuff. However, the advertising of "European values" too Intrusive and aggressive. Motto: "Nothing personal. It's only business", justifies any violations of the freedom of other people. Other non-European freedom is bad, and not the right of freedom. You really think that the Good guys (from Europe and the United States) must punish the Bad guys (who don't want to eat "European values") to eat and to think correctly (according to the recipe of the "Great White People carrying the Truth of Europe").
"European" means the right and good? If so, then all actions are fair and justified. However, Your country and the people are very much mistaken.
Anti-ivani4 message from "fighter for European values" is a good example. Only shit from Europe has no smell! Shit Oberyn, best shit from best ass!
 :rolleyes:

So what u are saying is that EU and US made Russia look like the bad guys so they can seem like the world police? Thats complete bullshit. Atleast when it comes to Russia. Russia itself deliberately makes itself look like the bad guys. It wants to be the bad guy. So whenever they cause shenanigans they would force the EU and US to counter them. That way Kremlin can tell to their people "See!!!! The West is out to get us! Work harder or we all doomed!" Keeping the people occupied and away from the internal issues. That way avoiding rioting.

 This isnt some propaganda or misunderstanding. Your goverment wants to be bad. Its kinda oblivious when your politicans basically refuse to play ball with any other country and release statements like " we should occupy the Baltics" or someone in russian news stating that "they can turn US soil into radioactive dust". U actually laugh there and say its stupid, but do think about it. What are the smaller ex-USSR countries gonna have to feel if basically their warmongering eastern neibhour thats been sacking them for centuries gets the courage and basically annexes some land at the center of Europe. Leaded by Putin, the guy who really misses USSR.

This isnt about some "European value" thing. What are u talking about? Whenever someone outside of Russia confronts Russia of its problems all you ever get is the statements "no u" and "u are no better". No explanation, no promises, no nothing. You are just like all the others Ivan. Keep it up.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2524 on: April 10, 2014, 12:50:30 pm »
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What do you know about developed countries, you live in Latvia ffs...
Well, it wouldn't be Leshma, if it wasn't spouting complete bullshit about stuff it has absolutely no idea about. :rolleyes:

In other, less obvious news: http://rt.com/politics/gorbachev-ussr-collapse-lawsuit-568/

Since it is RT, i'm sure even ivani4 will be able to believe it. PUH-LEASE tell me again, how Russia is not being a threat to all of it's neighbors and how "big, bad Russia" is just Western propaganda.

Just to make sure this gets through the thicker skulls, here are the relevant bits:
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According to the authors of the letter (and the prosecutors in 1991), Gorbachev is personally to blame for the creation of the State Council of the USSR – the new body that was not described in the Soviet Constitution and yet took the responsibility to decide on the secession of the three Baltic republics. The MPs also noted that such crimes have no statute of limitation and Gorbachev himself did not enjoy any sort of immunity at current moment.

In comments with the popular mass circulation daily Izvestia, one of the sponsors of the initiative, Evgeny Fyodorov, claimed that the thorough investigation into the 1991 events would allow for a “correct historical and political picture” and veritable conclusions that, in the politicians’ view, would give an impetus for the “national liberation movements” in former Soviet republics.
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“People in Kiev are dying and will keep on dying because of the people in the Kremlin who made a decision to break up the country a long time ago,” he told Izvestia.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2525 on: April 10, 2014, 12:53:14 pm »
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"See!!!! The West is out to get us! Work harder or we all doomed!" Keeping the people occupied and away from the internal issues. That way avoiding rioting.
yep true. Every day i build atleast 1 rocket and dig my tunnel for 5 meters. Also in Russia every family have 1 bunker on back ground and 10-year supply of food, and the favorite game of our kids is "duck and cover"  :P
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2526 on: April 10, 2014, 12:57:04 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2527 on: April 10, 2014, 01:02:17 pm »
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some more anti-russian Putin propaganda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Rkom1RpKA

Come on. Putin stinks. The tough man behind Gazprom will fail. Delusions of grandeur alway rise high and fall hard. Dont be a Nashi :twisted:

and Putin is really a cool guy:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2528 on: April 10, 2014, 01:12:44 pm »
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"Small countries of Europe..." Russia gave these people the national idea! Now they know a Great Sense of his existence: "we Need to fear and hate Russia. We must support (only morally, of course...) any of the fighters with the invaders!". Few can find these small countries on the map. But everyone knows that such dwarf countries exist. Latvia and Lithuania today are not useless countries! For 23 years! And only they know to do best sprats (this is the second part of a national idea).   :wink:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2529 on: April 10, 2014, 01:12:58 pm »
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"Small countries of Europe..." Russia gave these people the national idea! Now they know a Great Sense of his existence: "we Need to fear and hate Russia. We must support (only morally, of course...) any of the fighters with the invaders!". Few can find these small countries on the map. But everyone knows that such dwarf countries exist. Latvia and Lithuania today are not useless countries! For 23 years! And only they know to do best sprats (this is the second part of a national idea).   :wink:
You are literally too stupid to insult.

and Putin is really a cool guy:

The comments on that video really make me lose faith in humanity.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2530 on: April 10, 2014, 01:17:56 pm »
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The comments on that video really make me lose faith in humanity.
Putin for President of the Earth 2019!  :P
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2531 on: April 10, 2014, 01:29:13 pm »
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The comments on that video really make me lose faith in humanity.

Have you read the subtitles of the video before being abashed at the perfectly understandable reactions?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2532 on: April 10, 2014, 01:35:55 pm »
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Have you read the subtitles of the video before being abashed at the perfectly understandable reactions?
Have you read the comments on that video before being abashed at my perfectly understandable reaction? :rolleyes:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2533 on: April 10, 2014, 01:37:28 pm »
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Those who are claiming they support Putin, because he is awesome, because the video and subtitles are showing him in a good light, which is in turn perfectly understandable?  :P

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2534 on: April 10, 2014, 01:40:17 pm »
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Because they are fucking morons, that believe a guy laughing off a reporter for making a (stupid) statement makes him "awesome" and "best president, pls come fix my perfectly fine country with your KGB background"? Which is the reason for my reaction?