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Offline Kafein

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2415 on: April 03, 2014, 07:56:15 pm »
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Denying history and its impacts on humanity even hundred years after is as old as going fubar for historical reasons.

You just cant stop it Kafein, embrace it !  :mrgreen:

How is rejecting nationalism equal to "denying history" ? That's the opposite of the truth.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2416 on: April 03, 2014, 08:21:25 pm »
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Like Communists is better.

AFA
Stalin
Mao
USSR 2.0 ready to invade Ukraine
etc...


But no fight the ''evil globalist America biased capitalist western nations''. Amirite or what? Duuuh

Your country is communist country. In Russia and my country people are dying when they get ill because they don't have the money to pay for proper treatment. That is not communism.

Your "capitalist" Sweden pays for even the most expensive operations because welfare aka communism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2417 on: April 03, 2014, 10:19:53 pm »
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So I heard people are complaining about who made the one side shoot at the others, I don't know but maybe you have some useful thoughts or maybe even know it !
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2418 on: April 03, 2014, 10:29:40 pm »
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Your country is communist country. In Russia and my country people are dying when they get ill because they don't have the money to pay for proper treatment. That is not communism.

Your "capitalist" Sweden pays for even the most expensive operations because welfare aka communism.

And joining USSR 2.0 is the answer i'd guess lol? Comrade Stalin will save everyone from the oppression of the western nations ))))))))
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2419 on: April 03, 2014, 10:56:55 pm »
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Your country is communist country. In Russia and my country people are dying when they get ill because they don't have the money to pay for proper treatment. That is not communism.

Your "capitalist" Sweden pays for even the most expensive operations because welfare aka communism.
Sorry, but this statement of yours is full of shit. There is communism in Sweden? Hell no.  There is socialism in Sweden? Hell YES! Is there a difference? DOUBLE hell YES! (unless you want to blam Obama and join the tea party movement...  :rolleyes: )

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2420 on: April 04, 2014, 06:59:13 am »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2421 on: April 04, 2014, 08:17:12 am »
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No comments:
http://portall.tv/news.php?id_news=1792

Must be true, because they read it on the facebook...  8-)

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2422 on: April 04, 2014, 11:27:33 am »
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Your country is communist country. In Russia and my country people are dying when they get ill because they don't have the money to pay for proper treatment. That is not communism.

Your "capitalist" Sweden pays for even the most expensive operations because welfare aka communism.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

Of course, Scandinavian countries are far from full-fledged socialism as well, but calling them "communist" is about as far from the truth as you can get.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2423 on: April 04, 2014, 12:52:25 pm »
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Compared to Russian Federation they are "communist". What Thomek said to Dark Blade can be used the other way around, how many of you have been in Russia? Modern Russia is one of the most ruthless examples of capitalism in action, no trace of communism left.

Also fyi, neither North Korea is a communist country nowadays (they are military driven, isolated state where people are slaves to the great leader), China stopped being commie state ages ago. And communism in latin America, while strong, is still far behind "socialist" Norway at least if we look at positive aspects of communism.

You see, in commie Yugoslavia everyone (except dirty high level politician) was a "worker" and system had a tendency to decrease class differences between those workers. But you had to work to survive. In Norway, you can be an immigrant and don't even work, yet get the same salary as honest worker who's employed at low wage jobs. And you can do that for a loong period of time. So yeah, Norway is the dream of lazy Yugo worker from the 70s, communism they aways wanted to have :lol:

I've read somewhere that if economy of Norway collapsed today, they would still have 100 years to live in the same way they do today because of reserves they accumulated. Smart people I say, know how to organize their resources.

Also communism is general is idea of classless society where there is no private property. That can be achieved in many ways, stupid implementation of Marx the drunkard is just one of them. Amish society is based on communism too. Socialism is what comes before communism.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2424 on: April 04, 2014, 01:25:05 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2425 on: April 04, 2014, 01:58:44 pm »
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Some news:

Applications to president elections are closed. 23 candidates registered, a lot of expected candidates refused to take part in elections: Vitaly Klitschko (~>10% of votes, refused to take part to consolidate votes for Petro Poroshenko), Arseniy Yatsenyuk (~5% of votes, refused to take part to solve economical crisis). Most expected scenario (just my personal thoughts) is Poroshenko gets ~25-30% of votes in the first round while Tymoshenko gets ~15-20% of votes. Poroshenko then wins the 2nd round with ~65% of votes.


Russian military SUV "Tiger" penetrated Crimean trolley, there are victims both in trolley and Tiger but there is no additional info, Crimean police refuses to give any info. There are rumours that drivers of Tiger were drunk and exceeded the speed limit.

Russian ambassadors from 3rd world countries have euphoria

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2426 on: April 04, 2014, 02:13:56 pm »
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I really like your posts in this thread ( no sarcasm, i reall do ), but since you dont have magic words in your text, no one will care. Let me fix it for you, so it can be digested by the majority here. Will only need these three: democracy, freedom, revolution.

Compared to Russian Federation they are democratic. What Thomek said to Dark Blade can be used the other way around, how many of you have been in Russia? Modern Russia is one of the most ruthless examples of anti-democracy in action, no trace of freedom left.

Also fyi, neither North Korea is a democratic country nowadays (they are military driven, isolated state where people are slaves to the great leader), China stopped being freedom state ages ago. And freedom in latin America, while strong, is still far behind democratic Norway at least if we look at positive aspects of freedom.

You see, in pre-democratic Yugoslavia everyone (except dirty high level politician) was a "worker" and system had a tendency to decrease class differences between those workers. But you had to work to survive. In Norway, you can be an immigrant and don't even work, yet get the same salary as honest worker who's employed at low wage jobs. And you can do that for a loong period of time. So yeah, Norway is the dream of lazy Yugo worker from the 70s, freedom they always wanted to have :lol:

I've read somewhere that if democracy of Norway collapsed today, they would still have 100 years to live in the same way they do today because of freedom reserves they accumulated. Smart people I say, know how to organize their resources.

Also non-democracy in general is idea of classless society where there is no freedom. That can be achieved in many ways, stupid implementation of Marx the drunkard is just one of them. Amish society is based on democracy too. Revolution is what comes before freedom.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2427 on: April 04, 2014, 02:23:08 pm »
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Funnily enough, ex-communist states nowadays have ridiculous income disparity and very little welfare. But communism isn't high welfare and income equality, communism is the destruction of property.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2428 on: April 04, 2014, 02:39:09 pm »
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One aspect of communism is the transformation of private property into public property owned by everyone, yeah. But income equality is at least an aspect of the needed predecessor of communism - socialism - and only because there is no income in a communistic society(which never has been realised so far) because it doesn't need any money.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #2429 on: April 04, 2014, 02:44:48 pm »
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But communism isn't high welfare and income equality, communism is the destruction of property.

Maybe not communism per se, but most communist country had free care and low income disparity, which was more or less dissolved by the local corruption.