Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Xant]

Russians took an airport in Ukraine. Yesss!

It's going to get interesting soon..

[Tibe]

Yes, I'm sure that's the way they teach it in Russia. Sadly, it's not true.

They really do. Western history may slightly bend the actual facts, but russian historians downright fabricate it out of their asses.

[BlindGuy]

a few things to keep in mind:

Russian military tech may not be space age, but they do have a lot of it.

Putin is a very smart and ruthless man

Ukrainian situation created by their goverment vs protesters is creating power vacuum

NATO cannot militarily compete with Russia (sure we have better tech, but they have manpower beyond the dreams of NATO)

USA will not go to war over a country most of them cannot find on a map unless the profits are high and the cost low (example: current USA invasions of middleeastern countries are creating massive wealth for their military's civilian supply contracts, since all their gear, food, drinks, medical supplies etc are bought in a monopoly and since they are stealing vast amounts of oil without paying and not actually fighting anyone (a few blokes with soviet era weaponry and smelly beards are NOT a viable fighting force in this age, that time has gone) the overheads are relatively low)

SO what do we have: Russia gets to do w/e the fuck it wants in the Crimea. Since most Ukranians speak russian already Ive been told, you guys should be fine.

[Nessaj]

Russians took an airport in Ukraine. Yesss!

It's going to get interesting soon..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26379722

In other developments:

• The BBC has seen eight trucks with the black plates of the Russian army moving towards Simferopol
• Unconfirmed reports say eight Russian military helicopters have arrived in Sevastopol
• Ukraine's parliament calls on the UN Security Council to discuss the unfolding crisis in Crimea

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[Strudog]

a few things to keep in mind:

Russian military tech may not be space age, but they do have a lot of it.

Putin is a very smart and ruthless man

Ukrainian situation created by their goverment vs protesters is creating power vacuum

NATO cannot militarily compete with Russia (sure we have better tech, but they have manpower beyond the dreams of NATO)

USA will not go to war over a country most of them cannot find on a map unless the profits are high and the cost low (example: current USA invasions of middleeastern countries are creating massive wealth for their military's civilian supply contracts, since all their gear, food, drinks, medical supplies etc are bought in a monopoly and since they are stealing vast amounts of oil without paying and not actually fighting anyone (a few blokes with soviet era weaponry and smelly beards are NOT a viable fighting force in this age, that time has gone) the overheads are relatively low)

SO what do we have: Russia gets to do w/e the fuck it wants in the Crimea.

Ukraine is a very important gas supplier to the whole of Europe, i wouldn't be so sure Europe/USA would back down so easily, plus i don't think the USA will want too be overpowered by the Ruskies, the whole thinking of America is not in the best interest of others.

i believe its just going to be another Syria

[BlindGuy]

Ukraine is a very important gas supplier to the whole of Europe, i wouldn't be so sure Europe/USA would back down so easily, plus i don't think the USA will want too be overpowered by the Ruskies, the whole thinking of America is not in the best interest of others.

i believe its just going to be another Syria

Syrian problems didn't affect a huge fucking pipe...

Again: NATO can whine and persuade but will not fight Russia on the ground.

USA is not going to bomb Russia (Too many white ppl there) and sure as fuck is not going to be starting of getting involved in a ground war against an actual opponent (shooting up Korean war era Iraqi tanks from jets is not fighting).

As we've seen, Rus have siezed an airfield and are reinforcing it with massed AA, and noone is in a position to challenge them on the ground.

Rus has already won, they probably won when they incited rioting in UKR, who knows how deep the machinations go, since they are led by a man who is literally top dog, he didn't get where he is by garnering voters support, he did it by being ruthless, and smart, and conniving, and is a brilliant man, there is no denying it. Now the Rus will get for free what before they got for pennies, and it has cost them very little.

[Molly]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26379722

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I would poop my pants if that happened while looking out of my home window D:

[Christo]

I would poop my pants if that happened while looking out of my home window D:

oh well they are not aiming for you if you got the time to look out your home window now, do they 

[Falka]

Russians took an airport in Ukraine. Yesss!

It's going to get interesting soon..

World war III! Oh yeah, finally!

[Lars]

[Molly]

oh well they are not aiming for you if you got the time to look out your home window now, do they 

Well, considering I am German... Russian helicopters that close to my home window, their mere existence in my vicinity, would honestly freak me out.

[BlindGuy]

To be sure they would me too. But many of us have done military service and have seen what modern firepower can do: games and video just does not do justice to the awesome fear I feel when I watch this shit...

Noone who is sane wants to see escalation, an actual modern war between modern militaries... is not something that any part of europe would survive without scars. We may all have our own countries and history, but modern weapons dwarf our boundaries, and since we have accurate information about the location of anything these days (not me or you individually, but in this age of satellite photography, unmaned flight and electronic surveillance, there is no way to hide military activity) there would be no misses, these days when you fire a S.A.M or S.S.M ppl are going to die each time, every time.

[Molly]

When a modern Leopard II drives past you merely 5-10m away... one of the few feelings that could put the fear of God into me

Scary shit!

Or this thing:

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That moment when the turret starts moving, scanning the area... holy shit...

[Miwiw]

You mean it puts Pride into you? 

[Jacko]

Damn Dingos are deathtraps *shudder*

Syria we can handle, it's too far away to be of an issue. But Ukraine? That's practically on our doorstep. Will force a reaction and a build up in military spendings (just like the war in Georgia did).

A modern war between relatively equal opponents, will cause a tremendous loss of life, especially among the civilian population. There are no frontlines in a modern war.