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Will Putin command further invasion of Ukraine:

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #420 on: February 22, 2014, 04:45:00 pm »
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He refuses to resign "I will never resign. I've been elected so there is no reason for me to resign.". He's in Harkov. He is also blaming opposition for takeover.

Looks like the president has just got ousted by the parliament.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #421 on: February 22, 2014, 05:14:31 pm »
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #422 on: February 22, 2014, 05:32:45 pm »
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I'm sure Nessaj would have described your appearance as "haunting."

You really want to be 'fed' so bad don't you? :P



but we'll keep with some substance instead:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/we-spoke-to-police-captured-by-protesters-in-kiev

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-russia-ready-go-war-over-crimea-1437398
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #423 on: February 22, 2014, 05:40:39 pm »
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This really reminds me of 1956.

When our CCCPuppet leadership called in the russians.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #424 on: February 22, 2014, 06:14:12 pm »
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This is starting to be bloody interesting.
See you in the trenches boys.


Btw how politically legitimate is the vote on firing their own president, according to Ukraine law? Read the article and didnt get everything down. Specifically the method of voting, the appointing of "high officials" (?) and Tymoshenko exact background and political affiliation?
Is it a coup and will the government be able to reform without Yanukovych approval?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #425 on: February 22, 2014, 06:41:07 pm »
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Btw how politically legitimate is the vote on firing their own president, according to Ukraine law?

I think it's possible in most of countries around the world. It's called impeachment. Also now I'm concerned about the eastern part of Ukraine. President had the biggest electorate there and his team still has the power there. Some of them tried to announce, first, the independence and, second, become the part of Russian Federation (and that makes no sense, how can you become independent and instantly join Russian Federation?), SBU (the same as CIA in US) instantly reacted on this and today they (team of Yanukovych on the east) announced the completely opposite: they want to stay as a solid government like it's written in Constitution. Thus, eastern Ukraine is pretty much getting steamrolled with protesters and president's team there starts losing their powers. But I'm still concerned more about Crimea. There are a lot of Russians there (mostly families of current and former Russian navy militarists). There is a base of Russian fleet right in Crimea, this was also a big problem for Ukraine as the Constitution of Ukraine forbids to have any foreign military forces on the Ukrainian territory but due to contract Ukraine couldn't throw them out, so Ukraine was just waiting for it to end. Unfortunately, Yanukovych was a President by the moment the contract reached the ending date, what he did is simply a betrayal of Ukrainian people and a step against the Constitution - he prolonged it for 40 more years. Russia knows that if the new government comes - Russian navy forces will be asked to leave Crimea that will lead Russia to lose the control of Black Sea. They will find any excuse to fight over the Crimea just to save forces there or even annex it. As I've said, there are a lot of Russians in Crimea (and a lot of them have Russian citizenship which is forbidden by the law of Ukraine) and I guess it will be used as a main excuse to involve Russian military forces. The biggest problem is that people of Crimea will mostly support this as Russia is their original motherland and their families work for Russian military forces.

Basically, Crimea is a weak spot of Ukraine. But I really doubt that Russia is ready for actions in Crimea so I guess they'll just leave it as it is.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #426 on: February 22, 2014, 07:12:22 pm »
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Is it possible to create two countries ? Eastern Russian Ukraine and Western European Ukraine with a big wall in Kiev just like inBerlin ?  :cry:
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #427 on: February 22, 2014, 07:55:52 pm »
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There will be four parts or more. The Western part of the depart-nationalists. Centre - Tymoshenko. South East with its capital in Kharkiv. And Crimea.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #428 on: February 22, 2014, 07:58:16 pm »
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There will be four parts or more. The Western part of the depart-nationalists. Centre - Tymoshenko. South East with its capital in Kharkiv. And Crimea.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #429 on: February 22, 2014, 07:59:14 pm »
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I hope Russia sends its military in Ukraine and US retaliates by helping the other side with its armed forces.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #430 on: February 22, 2014, 08:37:15 pm »
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Why does Russia need to send to Ukraine troops? Tymoshenko may well agree with the Eastern part of Ukraine and together disperse the nationalists. Of course there's another option. It can (temporarily, of course) to unite with the nationalists and try to return the East and Crimea. But it will need your strength, the military forces. However nationalists Western Ukraine are unlikely to agree to the presence of foreign armed forces. "Druzhba" grass-snake and a hedgehog will end...

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #431 on: February 22, 2014, 08:55:17 pm »
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Beautifull girls in Ukraine, anyway.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #432 on: February 22, 2014, 08:55:45 pm »
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Why does Russia need to send to Ukraine troops?
I dunno, maybe Russia wants Ukraine for itself.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #433 on: February 22, 2014, 09:05:33 pm »
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I dunno, maybe Russia wants Ukraine for itself.

Or maybe they want you to think that way.

Or maybe... you want Russia to control the world, because you are RUSSIA ITSELF!!!

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine
« Reply #434 on: February 22, 2014, 09:16:12 pm »
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