Fief take over results in item multiplication

[kasMVC]

HI all

I'm not exactly sure what happened but something definitely seems out of the ordinary. I and my faction recently took Mawiti

- Battle time: 21.02., 08:55
- Battle duration: 39m03s
- Army size: 1551 vs 1266
- Battle result: 895 vs 306
- Winner: Attacker


Afterwards we were inspecting my gear and noticed absurd numbers of certain items. The enemy was spawning with no armor towards the end of the battle, and yet my armors had increased by the thousands. Horses went from a thousand or so to 5 thousand.


White Surcoat over Mail:      32922 (all)
Blue Transitional Armor with Surcoat:      11160 (all)
Mail Hauberk:      13950 (all)
Cavalry Robe:      3348 (all)
Green Brigandine over Mail:      17298 (all)
Mail Gauntlets:      34596 (all)
Chapel de Fer with Aventail:      7533 (all)
Kettle Helmet:      3348 (all)
Nordic Warlord Helmet:      21483 (all)
Rus Shoes:      5022 (all)
Skutatos Armor:      279 (all)
Banded Armor:      6138 (all)
Destrier:      837 (all)
Padded Leather:      49104 (all)
Padded Armor:      8091 (all)
Skullcap:      56916 (all)
Green and Yellow Hood:      3348 (all)
Leather Gloves:      81189 (all)
Rus Cavalry Boots:      87606 (all)
Mail Coif:      46035 (all)
Lamellar Gauntlets:      6975 (all)
Mail Mittens:      6975 (all)
Palace Guard Armor:      2232 (all)
Archon's Armor:      837 (all)
Khergit Lamellar Vest:      3906 (all)
Byrnie:      41850 (all)
Leather Armor:      11997 (all)
Chapel de Fer with Aventail:      22041 (all)
Cap with Fur:      279 (all)
Mail Boots:      14508 (all)
Mail Chausses:      62775 (all)
Leather Boots:      3069 (all)
Elite Cavalry Shield:      3627 (all)
Heavy Round Shield:      16182 (all)
Military Pick:      1953 (all)
Long Bow:      1116 (all)
Fighting Axe:      10881 (all)
Dadao:      13671 (all)
Nordic Sword:      6696 (all)
Heavy Lance:      25110 (all)
Steel Bolts:      5022 (all)
Arrows:      3627 (all)
Arbalest:      558 (all)
Heavy Bastard Sword:      13950 (all)
Long Spear:      3069 (all)
Steel Bolts:      11160 (all)
Tatar Arrows:      20925 (all)
Heavy Kite Shield:      1395 (all)
Kite Shield:      1953 (all)
Fighting Pick:      279 (all)
Winged Mace:      3069 (all)
Crossbow:      2232 (all)
Great Bardiche:      10323 (all)
Longsword:      13671 (all)
Heavy Bastard Sword:      6417 (all)
Pike:      2511 (all)
Tatar Arrows:      6975 (all)
Bodkin Arrows:      5859 (all)
Barbed Arrows:      3069 (all)
Bodkin Arrows:      3906 (all)
Goedendag:      837 (all)
Bastard Sword:      12555 (all)
Great Maul:      1116 (all)
Rondel Dagger:      1674 (all)
Simple Sword:      1116 (all)
Nordic Short Sword:      1395 (all)
Simple Nordic Sword:      20925 (all)
Arabian Straight Sword:      2790 (all)
Knobbed Mace:      3348 (all)
Long Hafted Spiked Mace:      5859 (all)
Lance:      3348 (all)
Military Scythe:      3906 (all)
Bamboo Spear:      12276 (all)
Brown Lion Heater Shield:      27621 (all)
Board Shield:      2511 (all)
Round Cavalry Shield:      4743 (all)
Heater Shield:      279 (all)
War Darts:      6696 (all)
Horn Bow:      5301 (all)
Crossbow:      1116 (all)


These are roughly half of my items 



Mug
Troops: 912
Speed: 12.567 meters per minute [zoom]
Equipment: 28,984 kg
Cargo: 3,721,842 kg (124062 crates)



The gear in the fief also skyrocketed to absurd amounts.


All in all we Frisians feel quite awkward about what has happened. The last thing we want to do is cheat at a game. I don't even feel comfortable using my strat hero until things are cleared up.


Any information you can provide would be awesome!


Cikel

[Lt_Anders]

I will provide info that several people I have talked to have garnered 15k worth of armor on a roughly 300 man army. I do believe it is a BAD bug.

[Butan]

If this has happened many times before and cant be checked and corrected.... wipe strat guys

[Smoothrich]

Mod is de@d.  Enjoy the millions of plate and max speed 10k armies with 100k horses everywhere now.

[MURDERTRON]

If this has happened many times before and cant be checked and corrected.... wipe strat guys

I agree with this.  This issue should be fully investigated and parties that benefited from this bug and did not report it should also be held accountable in some way.  I would also like to thank the Frisia/Funbutler guys for being so honest and taking this to the admins right away.

[Smoothrich]

I agree with this.  This issue should be fully investigated and parties that benefited from this bug and did not report it should also be held accountable in some way.  I would also like to thank the Frisia/Funbutler guys for being so honest and taking this to the admins right away.

The length of a Strat round is determined by how long until gold and gear and troops begin multiplying infinitely until the game is ruined.  I think it has happened every time.

[Sandersson Jankins]

Yeah, we reported it to Canary as he was the only crpgay constable on at the time. A strat wipe would be dope if this goes on a lot. Although I really find it difficult to believe this has happened plenty with nobody reporting it. It may be a fief-specific bug. Desire stated that it had happened to her, but it reverted back to normal after an hour.

It really sucks that Cikel is a bit stuck at the moment; we're a bit hesitant to put the gear up in a fief in case this can be easily reverted. I understand the situation looks a bit bleak with strategus being near zero on the list of priorities, but it feels damned shitty to sit on all this obviously illegitimate gear. GET IT OFF OF US.

[Smoothrich]

Yeah, we reported it to Canary as he was the only crpgay constable on at the time. A strat wipe would be dope if this goes on a lot. Although I really find it difficult to believe this has happened plenty with nobody reporting it. It may be a fief-specific bug. Desire stated that it had happened to her, but it reverted back to normal after an hour.

It really sucks that Cikel is a bit stuck at the moment; we're a bit hesitant to put the gear up in a fief in case this can be easily reverted. I understand the situation looks a bit bleak with strategus being near zero on the list of priorities, but it feels damned shitty to sit on all this obviously illegitimate gear. GET IT OFF OF US.

Someone showed up to the general IRC the other day reporting someone got bumped to EU from NA and had thousands and thousands of gear on him.  First time I heard of it.

[kasMVC]

As an update I have been selling off most of the -2 items


Gold: 3159120

My honest opinion:
EVERYONE has known about this for a LONG TIME. I'm just the first person to report it because gays. Seriously though it doesn't really matter. It's like steroid use in MLB or the cycling tournament. So unless specifically instructed to do otherwise I am going to use all of this gear and money. Good luck.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Someone showed up to the general IRC the other day reporting someone got bumped to EU from NA and had thousands and thousands of gear on him.  First time I heard of it.

Yeah, that guy said that an army of 300 men attacked him and the attacking army leader said he had been done it several battles in a row. After every battle, both armies got ludicrous amounts of items from thin air. Even the losing army that was teleported.

[kasMVC]

If an admin wants to do anything about this just delete most of the gold save 40k (because I had roughly 40k to begin with)

I will leave all this gold untouched until something comes up!

[Sandersson Jankins]

I hate to be the one with the ultimatum, but we're put in a shit situation with "hot" gear/gold. If no admin action is taken or at least instructions received by myself or cikel within two days, we will be forced to use the gold or at the very least store it in a safe place. If we hadn't reported the damn bug, we would have been in an amazing situation in terms of gear, but also in terms of effort expended upon this issue. It would in fact be a non-issue for us, but we chose to call the crpg police.

Sorry, but I really don't want to be put in a position where we are forced to defend a gigantic stockpile of gear that we're, in fact, afraid to even use for fear of getting a banstick.

If this bug is not new (and it seems to be quite established, in fact we may be the last people to know about it) then strategus should either be wiped entirely or an official word should be given that Strategus will not receive mod support. That way we know to take care of bugs and duped gear as a community and not hang on the word of the admin/mod/dev teams.

[Segd]

If this bug is not new (and it seems to be quite established, in fact we may be the last people to know about it) then strategus should either be wiped entirely or an official word should be given that Strategus will not receive mod support.

Last honest clan

Wipe is bad. Just need to nuke NA.

[Tanken]

I am very happy that you guys were honest about this and that you came forth and immediately noted it. Very respectable. Give all the faction members a free loom point devs. (don't kick me out of it yet Sandy)

Edit: I went ahead and took a screenshot of the gear since it's already public. This may be a bit more tangible for some simple-minded folks (like myself) to wrap around seeing as there's pictures and numbers.

I mean seriously, look at the destriers and rounceys and the brown armor. That is insane.

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[kinngrimm]

i hope devs get onto this asap

perhaps even freeze strat till this is resolved,
it shouldn't be too hard to identify armies with lots of gear or gold which they havent had before, time intensive though.