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I can't get no Map-isfaction..!

I'm satisfied with the current selection of maps
I'm moderately satisfied with the current selection of maps
I 'm not satisfied with the current selection of maps and I wish to make my voice heard in this thread!
Maps are horrible, add more maps that cater to my class!
Maps are horrible, I hate you

Author Topic: [Feedback] Maps on official servers  (Read 44308 times)

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Offline Lizard_man

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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2012, 06:15:46 pm »
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Of course it's a rotation problem, it's exactly the same as the radio, playing the same songs over and over...
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2012, 10:00:40 pm »
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Of course it's a rotation problem, it's exactly the same as the radio, playing the same songs over and over...

its probably because you play at the same time, and i current rotation makes full circle in something about either 12h or 24h

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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2012, 10:46:29 pm »
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Well this was one of the points of the thread i made, why is there so little maps in the rotation, have seen some different maps today though, which is great...
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2012, 11:09:09 pm »
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I accidently got stuck between the handcart, the tree and the wall. Just dropped right into it.
As I said I unfortunately don't know the mapname but I guess the pics give it away somehow.
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2012, 11:55:29 pm »
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Last rotation was 40 maps (one before that 70). This one is a bit shorter. It's not lack of maps.
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2012, 12:17:18 am »
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Why only 40?
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2012, 12:20:00 am »
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The rotation is the best I have ever seen it.  Pretty much all of the maps that were removed sucked; you had to run up mountains from your spawn or one side always won or something.  Jacko has done a pretty good job.  You don't need 100 maps and there aren't 100 maps good enough, anyway.

Still needs more Tropical and Hell Valley needs to be removed  :P

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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2012, 01:15:48 am »
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one side always won or something.

:|

Anyway, knowone's saying that Jacko hasn't done a good job, and i'm glad he's taking his time to do it, it just doesn't feel like there's 40 maps. What happened to all of the revised village maps, some of those were great, some before and after they were changed...
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2012, 02:33:45 am »
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I don't know but it has been playing a lot of unknown scene and random maps lately and those all look the same so maybe that's what you mean.  If so, I agree they are bad.

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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2012, 01:20:12 pm »
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It's like 1 in 5 maps that is actually balanced, one side always gets owned, but i think that is down to actual team balance rather than the map itself...
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2012, 10:20:57 pm »
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... I believe it is better to have plenty of okey maps then a few 'balanced' maps, simply because this is not Counter Strike. Balance should be made by players working together, not by cleverly placed buildings. ...

Just like in Counter-Strike, a greatly superior team will always win, regardless of map ( think - veteran players vs peasants ). When two equally skilled teams meet - that's when it should take same time to reach certain spots on the map, that's when every building/obstacle should exist for a reason, that's when you need to know every square meter of the map, in order to use tactics and teamwork.

Cleverly placed buildings produce equal tactical opportunities for both teams. Why would anyone want it any other way?..
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2012, 11:09:35 pm »
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There are basically two ways of balancing a map. Either you micro manage the maps, like with counter-strike and similar games, or you go the more 'open world/sandbox approach' like battlefield. Both strive for balance, but one in the 'micro' and the other in a 'macro' way (I really wish we could have a more objective based combat). I believe that the scale of warband and cRPG is more suited for a more "open world approach" (read: sandbox) where balance is there, but maneuvering and positing is more important then rushing that particular spot on the map (which could be argued is the same thing, but the general scale and diversity of combat usually makes such 'spots' obsolete).

A cliche if you will: Less is more. Let the players dictate the flow of battle, not the map.

Lizard_man: I removed most of the Village maps, because I simply don't know which of them are good. I know there are a couple of gems in there, and I will start to poke them in again eventually. If you can remember the names of the good ones, please post em.
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2012, 01:37:36 am »
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That's a bit of a problem, i have no idea. Do you have a list with pictures, i'm pretty sure there was one, maybe a bit outdated but i wouldn't mind having a look, i could even look through the strategus map actually, as for custom maps and maps not in strategus, i have no idea, sorry... :P
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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2012, 01:44:37 am »
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This is a very good map called Riot in Swadian City.

Only qualm I have with this map is that horses can go to the dungeon area but don't have a way to get back out.

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Re: [Feedback] Maps on official servers
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2012, 01:48:28 am »
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The new rotation is really really good!  Lots of great maps back to back.  I've been enjoying it a lot.

Truly a vast improvement over the previous.  Thank you!!