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Author Topic: [NA] Earthdforce  (Read 5074 times)

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2011, 05:43:36 am »
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I admitted to team wounding, not killing, get your facts straight.  I've seen people get less ban time for multiple intentional team KILLINGS.  Oh ya, lets not even mention the fact that punishment is completely subjective and there are no guidelines posted anywhere about punishment times. 


A good admin would have recognized he was prejudiced against the player and let another admin handle it.  That would have taken maturity to though, which Earthdforce clearly isnt.  He jumped at the chance to ban someone he doesnt like, thats called abusing power.

You aren't exactly prom king with the player base in general, Digglez. Also, while the day ban was pretty extreme, I probably would have given you more than an hour ban being that there are no set in stone guide lines for how long bans can be given out and going by your critiques in other posts about admins, you really ought to know better when it comes to understanding and following the rules.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 08:08:03 am by Darkkarma »
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2011, 08:32:39 am »
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You aren't exactly prom king with the player base in general, Digglez. Also, while the day ban was pretty extreme, I probably would have given you more than an hour ban being that there are no set in stone guide lines for how long bans can be given out and going by your critiques in other posts about admins, you really ought to know better when it comes to understanding and following the rules.

I fail to see how giving honest critics of admins has anything to do with me knowing the rules, actually quite the opposite.  By knowing the rules very well I can recognize which admins choose to look the other way.  I know the rules very well and I uphold & defend them, everyone knows I'm a teamplayer (which is why I got banned, I was helping defend my team and was HONEST).  I report offenders on a regular basis, especially on siege where team play matters alot more.  This wouldnt have to be the case if admin was given to clans that actually play there.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 08:34:29 am by Digglez »

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2011, 04:45:06 pm »
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Friendly reminder that this is a feed back thread.

I would like to point out that even if someone were to give me harsh criticism (as long as it does not break the board rules as in contain ridiculous personal insults) I would not want anyone defending me in my thread.

I like Earth a lot, but I don't think the point of these threads (as much as they are bullet magnets for trolls) are to have people critique the critique. I think that is for the Original poster, yes?

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2011, 06:25:13 pm »
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Gee, I feel pretty popular right now

EDIT: Not that I don't like all this negative attention, but can yall please give me some constructive feedback? Ya know, so I can stop being such a badmin?  :lol:
« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 08:20:16 pm by Earthdforce »
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2011, 12:11:30 am »
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Gee, I feel pretty popular right now

EDIT: Not that I don't like all this negative attention, but can yall please give me some constructive feedback? Ya know, so I can stop being such a badmin?  :lol:
Easy. Don't give 1 day ban to people that teamkill/teamhit multiple people and then give the exact same punishment to a guy who hits a friendly once to stop him from fucking the server up for the rest.

Scale your penalties according to how severe the action was and don't punish people who had a pretty good reason to do it as much as you punish people who are just dicks.
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2011, 01:34:15 am »
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Easy. Don't give 1 day ban to people that teamkill/teamhit multiple people and then give the exact same punishment to a guy who hits a friendly once to stop him from fucking the server up for the rest.

Scale your penalties according to how severe the action was and don't punish people who had a pretty good reason to do it as much as you punish people who are just dicks.
For the record, this is probably the first 1 day ban I've given. Just because another admin gave a ban for x amount of days to y player for z punishment does not mean that EVERY SINGLE other admin would have reacted the same way. Sure, perhaps my fellow admins wouldn't have given digglez the same length as I did, but that matters not. I gave him the one day ban and I stood by it. He did his time and now he's free to play. As for this topic, I'm done discussing it, accuse me of something else from now on.
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2011, 03:08:28 am »
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I fail to see how giving honest critics of admins has anything to do with me knowing the rules, actually quite the opposite.  By knowing the rules very well I can recognize which admins choose to look the other way.  I know the rules very well and I uphold & defend them, everyone knows I'm a teamplayer (which is why I got banned, I was helping defend my team and was HONEST).  I report offenders on a regular basis, especially on siege where team play matters alot more.  This wouldn't have to be the case if admin was given to clans that actually play there.

In your case, your critiques of admins definitely show that you have an understanding of how the rules work, being that you give legitimate complaints, rather than "said admin is a fucking douchebag",etc. You've played in both the community servers and the official servers long enough to have a great understanding of what is right and what is wrong.
You're a pretty honest player, and I can understand your frustration, as no admins really do play on siege, and for the most part, you do uphold the rules, however, you know that one of the most obvious things for an admin to see is a blatant TK, which is usually what a retaliation TK turns out to be. I can't speak for earth, but I know most admins on here, myself included do our best to make sure griefers aren't around on the server ruining the game for others. Being that admins are getting accepted with little to any prejudice, i'd suggest you apply for admin on siege. I personally think you'd make for a good admin.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2011, 03:09:30 am by Darkkarma »
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2011, 07:19:28 am »
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Knowing the rules is probably an important thing as an admin, considering you are supposed to uphold them and all.
Also muting someone for making a valid criticism is bad form and supports the view that you are a power tripping admin that other people seem to have.

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2011, 07:21:10 am »
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Just to be clear, the whole csite rule has been discussed so many times it's fuzzy in my head...in fact, there are csites blocking the flag right now and I'm not doing anything about it.

EDIT: So yeah, I was wrong. No one was banned, but I'm apologizing anyways. Sorry for all that.
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2011, 09:53:15 pm »
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Knowing the rules is probably an important thing as an admin, considering you are supposed to uphold them and all.
Also muting someone for making a valid criticism is bad form and supports the view that you are a power tripping admin that other people seem to have.
Wait?!? admins arent humans? and cant make any mistakes?!?!?

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2011, 03:36:04 am »
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I like your avatar.  You could be more of a hardass.  I like cats.

^sandwich style critique

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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2011, 04:26:00 am »
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I like your avatar.  You could be more of a hardass.  I like cats.

^sandwich style critique
Cat avatars = Best admins.
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2011, 04:51:24 am »
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Cat avatars = Best admins.

then why was nuffen slapped around like a dirty whore
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2011, 04:54:49 am »
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then why was nuffen slapped around like a dirty whore
I said best, not most popular :P
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Re: [NA] Earthdforce
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2011, 09:51:21 am »
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You try very hard to keep the server clean of idiots, and you are usually considerate towards people whom may have been unfairly accused.

I have been frequently ignored and thrown aside by quite a few admins (though I understand there are more important issues), and you are not one of them. I respect you for this.

Asking the community how they view your performance is also very wise in my opinion. Too many have developed this sense of being too good for judgement, yet for us to improve we must subject ourselves to it. Yes there will be haters, but it is good to know why they are hating. A key concept of being a critical thinker, is being able to reflect upon your own and everyone elses opinions.

Keep up the good work, and continue to evolve your methods on what is best for the community.




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