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cRPG => Events & Tournaments => Topic started by: bagge on April 09, 2015, 06:51:40 pm

Title: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 09, 2015, 06:51:40 pm
As the current state of cRPG might not offer the manpower enough to make a Nations Cup, we shall all vote so you could decide the next Tournament.

Nations Cup = We play nations vs. nations. Some regions will be merged as most countries lack players.

International = You are free to pick your players no matter country/clan etc.

The poll will run for a few days.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: ecorcheur_brokar on April 09, 2015, 07:01:31 pm
next tournament is the one organised by Habi or the one coming after the one organised by habi?
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Ripoll on April 09, 2015, 07:05:04 pm
Nationscup idea is good just adapt the teams as Algarn said

The "only" problem is, that player base isn't spread homogenely around the world. Ex : you got a shit load of German/polish/russian speaking people, while you get almost no French, Dutch, and Italian people. Of course, you'll be able to find 5 guys, but they won't match with teams from bigger player bases. Look at the German team for example, try to make a team with the current british players to beat this one, it will be almost impossible. Instead of taking cultural ressemblances between countries, try to draw a comparison between countries and their relative player bases, and allow alliances between small countries, and not between the bigger ones to avoid some kind of Russia + Germany.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 09, 2015, 07:55:23 pm
next tournament is the one organised by Habi or the one coming after the one organised by habi?

I'll be taking over the tournament, so I'll lock this thread. I'll prepare all the new stuff and it will be done asap.

Few new stuff:

* New sub-forum will be presented.
* New rules.
* Prizes will be announced.

Stay tuned!

Add me on Steam if you have any questions: Click me! (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975761793/)
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Algarn on April 09, 2015, 08:03:06 pm
Nationscup idea is good just adapt the teams as Algarn said

Well, the concept of a Nation cup with mixing countries that aren't close in a cultural way isn't a nation cup, Bagge was right on this one. An international tournament with mixed countries (or not) appears to be the best solution.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: //saxon on April 09, 2015, 11:04:33 pm
Getting picked last on a team, hurts so much
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: T_Grellenort on April 10, 2015, 05:40:13 am
International.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Arthur_ on April 10, 2015, 10:50:19 am
Bagge you can use my idea for a tournament.. making shit real
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 10, 2015, 11:47:50 am
Welp, it looks like we'll have another cRPG 5v5 Tournament (open for both EU/NA).

Rules will change slightly.

* No more infantry cap.
* New match/map rules.

And some new stuff that you have to read for yourself 8-)

Now I'm just waiting for a child board!
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 10, 2015, 12:15:00 pm
I've been thinking about some new rules that is quite important. READ and discuss, please.

Instead of weekly deadlines and team captains organizing matches themselves, there will be 2 set game days per week with a fixed schedule.

Wednesday: 18-22
Sunday: 18-22

That leaves 4 matches per game day, 8 matches per week. That will also mean the tournament could possibly end in 4 weeks, instead of 8+. And we will not have another tournament in the middle of the Summer.

Stand ins/Team size:

The team sizes will be 5-7 players per team. That is 1 less than last time, but instead you will have a chance to use stand ins/mercenaries. Now stands in can only be used if they are not a member of another team in the tournament. Players who participated in any form in the tournament before are not allowed to stand in. There's a maximum of 2 stand ins per game.

These fixed dates will always ensure that an admin will be present as well.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 10, 2015, 08:04:29 pm
As fun as it is getting all nationalistic and stuff, international is probably better for forming teams with the slightly lacking playerbase.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: _GTX_ on April 12, 2015, 05:01:35 pm
Stand ins/Team size:

The team sizes will be 5-7 players per team. That is 1 less than last time, but instead you will have a chance to use stand ins/mercenaries. Now stands in can only be used if they aren't a member of another team in the tournament or has already been eliminated from the tournament with a team. There's a maximum of 2 stand ins per game.

These fixed dates will always ensure that an admin will be present as well.
I'm not really a fan of the mercenaries rule. It just seems like it's defeating the purpose of having teams, in a way. Like i wouldn't really feel like it was great if i had to fight you every single time, because everyone just took you in as a mercenaries, because you got eliminated early on.

I know that it will make sure that people get to play a little more, but it just doesn't feel like it's a true team effort, if you win because you bring in a lot of good players when you need em.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Molly on April 12, 2015, 06:18:08 pm
I'm not really a fan of the mercenaries rule. It just seems like it's defeating the purpose of having teams, in a way. Like i wouldn't really feel like it was great if i had to fight you every single time, because everyone just took you in as a mercenaries, because you got eliminated early on.

I know that it will make sure that people get to play a little more, but it just doesn't feel like it's a true team effort, if you win because you bring in a lot of good players when you need em.
You might wanna read what you quoted again.

Nobody who already took part in the tournament can stand in.
We could discuss if a stand in is allowed to help out more than just one team. Even a tiny addition to the rule like "Stand ins can only help out 2 different teams over the course of the tournament" would completely fix all issues with that too.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: _GTX_ on April 12, 2015, 10:43:40 pm
You might wanna read what you quoted again.

Nobody who already took part in the tournament can stand in.
We could discuss if a stand in is allowed to help out more than just one team. Even a tiny addition to the rule like "Stand ins can only help out 2 different teams over the course of the tournament" would completely fix all issues with that too.
I think i read it right, but i know how you love to bash me.

Stand ins/Team size:

The team sizes will be 5-7 players per team. That is 1 less than last time, but instead you will have a chance to use stand ins/mercenaries. Now stands in can only be used if they aren't a member of another team in the tournament or has already been eliminated from the tournament with a team. There's a maximum of 2 stand ins per game.
So if a team gets eliminated from the tournament, then its members can enter the tournament as mercenaries for the other teams, as far as i understand.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Blackbow on April 13, 2015, 12:18:10 am
if it's too hard to form teams in nation cup way let's do it international !!
the goal is just to make a tournament so ... make it easy !!

everybody know the french would have won anyway :lol:
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Algarn on April 13, 2015, 01:16:37 am
if it's too hard to form teams in nation cup way let's do it international !!
the goal is just to make a tournament so ... make it easy !!

everybody know the french would have won anyway :lol:

Yes, with all the mercs/vanguards french probably, but they all went inactive, hence the Dutch/French team I'm trying to set up. And even with that, I'm no sure we'll be able to fight off the german team.  :lol:
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Halk on April 13, 2015, 09:57:54 am
Yes, with all the mercs/vanguards french probably, but they all went inactive, hence the Dutch/French team I'm trying to set up. And even with that, I'm no sure we'll be able to fight off the german team.  :lol:

Bitch please.. Winland would've beaten the living shit out of the whole tournament.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Molly on April 13, 2015, 12:08:54 pm
I think i read it right, but i know how you love to bash me.
So if a team gets eliminated from the tournament, then its members can enter the tournament as mercenaries for the other teams, as far as i understand.
Granted, it's phrased in an unlucky way.
No, you can not take part as stand-in if you were involved in the tournament in any way before.

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Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 13, 2015, 12:45:31 pm
Aye poorly phrased. Gonna edit when I got time.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Molly on April 13, 2015, 01:56:14 pm
FTFY.  :oops:
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: jtobiasm on April 13, 2015, 03:32:09 pm
So if i don't want to join a team, I can just stand in for teams as and when I want?
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Molly on April 13, 2015, 04:15:56 pm
So if i don't want to join a team, I can just stand in for teams as and when I want?
Most likely there will be a maximum number of different teams you'd be allowed to stand-in for. Something like 2 different teams max. or something.
Just to avoid people playing for every team once over the course of the tournament.
Besides, it's less about when you want and more about if the teams need you. :wink:

The idea is to keep the teams full for every match day, avoiding delays in the process. Tho we will be pretty harsh on that - if you can't field at least 3 people or you don't show = match lost by default - as an example for the process. No discussion. The rules will be clear and strict.

And it would allow people with very little gaming time who can't take part in a team to at least play a match or two as stand-in and still participate.

We still have to figure out if they can take part of the prize as stand-in.
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: jtobiasm on April 13, 2015, 04:20:37 pm
Most likely there will be a maximum number of different teams you'd be allowed to stand-in for. Something like 2 different teams max. or something.
Just to avoid people playing for every team once over the course of the tournament.
Besides, it's less about when you want and more about if the teams need you. :wink:

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

P.S Every team needs me :wink: apart from bagges'
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: tizzango on April 14, 2015, 12:07:04 am
Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

P.S Every team needs me :wink: apart from bagges'

I will join your team!
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: Hoppster on April 14, 2015, 06:06:58 am
We still have to figure out if they can take part of the prize as stand-in.

u should just pay some sort of mercenery fee (gold) if a stand in helps a team to win
Title: Re: Next Tournament should be... POLL!
Post by: bagge on April 14, 2015, 12:56:30 pm
Threads are up.

http://forum.melee.org/official-crpg-5v5-eu-tournament-ii/