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Title: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 24, 2014, 01:54:52 pm
I'm nostalgic as fuck, and tried again two days ago this game (love to wear an assisted armor and a badass laser rifle),  but I regret it's somehow limited, a bit like Skyrim. I tried to download a few mods, but I don't manage to find a decent mod to repair myself my armors/weapons (without having to ask useless NPCs for useless repair up to 50%) and another mod to eat/drink/sleep, I just found one that gives unclear penalties, where you need to drink 5 bottles or something to remove your thirst.  :?
Also looking for good quests, almost finished all DLCs (level 30 char + plate easy mod hehe).

Any suggestion ?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Grumbs on December 24, 2014, 01:59:54 pm
Assuming you have New Vegas with all the DLC? If you didn't get into NV then give it a good try, its easily the best RPG with that engine i've played. It also has a hardcore mode, didn't try that yet (got to eat/drink etc)
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: LordBerenger on December 24, 2014, 03:54:41 pm
Prostitute mod so u can have sex
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 24, 2014, 05:46:43 pm
Play New Vegas instead.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 24, 2014, 05:59:23 pm
Dl a mod for damage multiplier. Honestly that is all Ive ever needed for FO3.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 24, 2014, 06:00:40 pm
Play New Vegas instead.

Or FO2
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 24, 2014, 06:12:07 pm
Or FO2, for example with the pretty great Restoration Project (http://www.nma-fallout.com/showthread.php?180229-Fallout-2-Restoration-Project-1-0-(Unofficial-FO2-Expansion)).


Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 24, 2014, 06:34:34 pm
I have new vegas, but somehow, I prefer the storyline of Fallout 3, even if mecanics of NV are better and way more challenging.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 24, 2014, 07:09:56 pm
Fallout 3... I have memories about that stuff. There I was trying to play it in order to show it off to my brother. A random desert raider strikes. I shoot the motherfucker in the head with my plasma rifle from just a few steps away, he only shakes a little and continues to attack me. Brother loses interest. I am speechless and don't know what to do with the shitty RNG of the game.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 24, 2014, 07:17:54 pm
Fallout 3... I have memories about that stuff. There I was trying to play it in order to show it off to my brother. A random desert raider strikes. I shoot the motherfucker in the head with my plasma rifle from just a few steps away, he only shakes a little and continues to attack me. Brother loses interest. I am speechless and don't know what to do with the shitty RNG of the game.

This is why I used the damage multiplier mod. One or two headshots meant death for most of enemies, save for people encased in power armor. I remember clearing out the mutant cave with only 10mm pistol.

The damage multiplier applies to your character too though.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on December 24, 2014, 07:24:37 pm
I really don't mind if it applies to your character too. After all, the only challenge ever came from poison or Deathclaw attacks. After getting power armor, I didn't even care about anything anyway. But damn, that little instance I wrote above really drove me crazy back then.

Note that I am not a hater though. I have played all Fallouts and I enjoyed the fuck out of Both 3 and New Vegas. Guess I should have benefited more from mods like your damage multiplier mod. If that long-awaited Fallout 4 or maybe 5 (if you count NV as the 4th) becomes real and I can do that later.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Tibe on December 24, 2014, 07:44:56 pm
Fallout NV with DLCs and stack that shit up with mods aswell.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: SixThumbs on December 24, 2014, 08:37:34 pm
That was the only issue that I had with the modern ones, unloading entire clips to take something down but I guess that's an FPS/RPG for you, I would've preferred ridiculous sway or inaccuracy in the early levels.

NV was fun the first time through but trying to play it on PC again after the 360 there was an annoying sliding/stuttering bug with movement that I never figured out how to fix.

On a side-note FOV is really blagging for my old eyes now that I mainly game on a PC, being a few feet from the monitor.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Kafein on December 25, 2014, 02:03:43 am
Fallout 3... I have memories about that stuff. There I was trying to play it in order to show it off to my brother. A random desert raider strikes. I shoot the motherfucker in the head with my plasma rifle from just a few steps away, he only shakes a little and continues to attack me. Brother loses interest. I am speechless and don't know what to do with the shitty RNG of the game.

That so much. I really wish those FPS-RPG games like the modern fallout and borderlands were more FPS than RPG. In fallout in particular the gunplay is just atrocious.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Xelaris on December 27, 2014, 05:57:49 am
i see that most of you failed on a simple request
fallout 3 wanderer edition and marts mutant mod
making the game as hard as you like, alternative starts and backgrounds and you can tweak a lot of game aspects for realism (like no head explosions when you crit)
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Mala on December 27, 2014, 05:35:48 pm
I have new vegas, but somehow, I prefer the storyline of Fallout 3, even if mecanics of NV are better and way more challenging.

The Storyline on FO3?

Your Father left you to die in a vault but you managed to escape.
Nevertheless you started to look for your cruel father because of ... i have no clue.
Some things happen and then after a few weeks or months you found him by accident in another vault somewhere in no man´s land.

Ohh, and in the end you or your teammate has to die, not because there is no way to prevent it, no because the scripts says it so.

me: hello there mutant pal. can you activate the console please? you are immune to the radiation.
muntant: no, becase it is your fate to die here.
me: wah?   (ok, the dlc fixes this mess.)


So you actually the story?
After the escape from the vault i was constantly asking myself, why i am doing this?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 27, 2014, 07:40:47 pm
Hm, by storyline, I also meant the location, the events are a bit strange sometimes, don't know how to feel about that. I just prefer fighting in DC than fighting into an endless desert, personnal preference.

Also, either I missed something, or there's no mutant saying that.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Mala on December 27, 2014, 08:01:51 pm
Depends on it who you bring to the last mission. in my case the mutant, because i did not want to die.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 27, 2014, 08:34:55 pm
Did the last mission alone with a unique laser rifle and a powered armor. Not that hard to stay alive if you meet those conditions !
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 27, 2014, 08:41:38 pm
Did the last mission alone with a unique laser rifle and a powered armor. Not that hard to stay alive if you meet those conditions !

I did the last mission with ya mom m8, fucked her very hard with the dildo sword.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 27, 2014, 11:13:46 pm
I did the last mission with ya mom m8, fucked her very hard with the dildo sword.

rude
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on December 27, 2014, 11:51:38 pm
While NV has all the cool shit, the location sucks. It's a desert with barely any notable or recognizable places.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2014, 12:47:26 am
Plus New Shitas is plagued with invisible walls everywhere! That breaks any point of exploration that the previous Fallout had.

I don't know. I tried my best, twice! to do a full run of New Vegas but it never got me. I don't like how it starts, I don't like how the story progresses and I don't know how I can make it more interesting.

I still remember exploring every inch of Fallout 3 to find everything. I also remember how you could get stuck for hours by simply exploring and stumble into a side quest. Like my favourite one is going into a town full of mutants. In the biggest house you find a women that asks you to save her friend who should be at the bottom of the house and upon reaching the end you find him shred to pieces. She then asks you to escort her to her town and from there you get more options like helping them defend against the more mutants that will come for them by training them how to shoot or leave them to die.

That was engaging.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 11:57:20 am
While NV has all the cool shit, the location sucks. It's a desert with barely any notable or recognizable places.

Please dont remind me...

Also, more than 4 fucking npcs on screen and it goes full fucking lag mode. I seriously dont get how can people prefer NV to FO3. FO3 is close to a fuckin masterpiece, if werent for the shitty damage formula.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Kafein on December 28, 2014, 12:05:03 pm
Please dont remind me...

Also, more than 4 fucking npcs on screen and it goes full fucking lag mode. I seriously dont get how can people prefer NV to FO3. FO3 is close to a fuckin masterpiece, if werent for the shitty damage formula.

NV in hardcore mode has much better gameplay IMO. Yes, the desert isn't all that engaging but there are a few cool locations like the lucky 38 or the nuclear facility thing.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 28, 2014, 03:02:54 pm
Please dont remind me...

Also, more than 4 fucking npcs on screen and it goes full fucking lag mode. I seriously dont get how can people prefer NV to FO3. FO3 is close to a fuckin masterpiece, if werent for the shitty damage formula.

Lel, fallout 3 was oblivion with guns. NV felt like a proper fallout game.
And I never experienced this lag you talkin about, maybe it's the fault of your potato PC.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: NejStark on December 28, 2014, 03:06:43 pm
For me in NV I was building up to actually going to the city of NV, when I get there I was disappointed. I preferred FO3 personally. Would love some good mod suggestions.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Mala on December 28, 2014, 03:39:33 pm
Please dont remind me...

Also, more than 4 fucking npcs on screen and it goes full fucking lag mode. I seriously dont get how can people prefer NV to FO3. FO3 is close to a fuckin masterpiece, if werent for the shitty damage formula.

Because Fo3 hat a stupid main story, no real bossfight (only the one supermutant at the start) and traveling in the ruins of Washington was cumbersome.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 28, 2014, 04:36:55 pm
For me in NV I was building up to actually going to the city of NV, when I get there I was disappointed. I preferred FO3 personally. Would love some good mod suggestions.

Sadly, NV got much more mods than fallout 3.

I tried to download powered power armors mod (PPA), but as I didn't dled mod manager, I failled to run it. But I managed to get NV version working. One of the best mod for armor crutchers like me:

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/13361/?

For those who would like to see the NV version :

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37983/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D37983%26preview%3D&pUp=1


I believe we can change the environment, so, it doesn't remain a damned useless desert.


Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 05:05:21 pm
Lel, fallout 3 was oblivion with guns. NV felt like a proper fallout game.
And I never experienced this lag you talkin about, maybe it's the fault of your potato PC.

Funny you mention Fallout 3 being oblivion with guns, when NV is built around the exact same fucking engine, and plays the EXACTLY fucking same. Seriously dude, that is like saying greeen apples taste different than red ones. I wont even mention the potato bit, especially considering I play three years older games on high. (yet NV lags like shit with just few NPCs while managing to look nauseatingly bad)

Then again, you could not probably tell an awfully optimized game if it bit you in the arse, would you?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 05:07:44 pm
Because Fo3 hat a stupid main story, no real bossfight (only the one supermutant at the start) and traveling in the ruins of Washington was cumbersome.

Well the city design was kind of heavy handed to tell the truth, but at least it was not a freaking desert as far as you could see. And really, what was stupid about FO3's story?

Edit: sorry for DP.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 05:21:33 pm
What are you talking about, FNV has completely reworked combat and actually feels like a real shooter. And it's an actual RPG, with an adult storyline compared to the childish, black and white FO3, with real branching dialogue not written by a third grader, a real breathing world full of NPCs and some of the most nuanced player choices seen in an RPG. FNV is a great game and a chronological successor to FO2, FO3 is just a rehash of old Fallout quests in Oblivion, poorly executed.

If anyone dislikes the otherwise awesome Mojave Wasteland setting just try one of the giant DLCs which are all set in different environments.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: SixThumbs on December 28, 2014, 05:22:08 pm
I "preferred" New Vegas after I played it but thinking back now the only thing I'd specifically be able to say is that it was more of an RPG with consequential choices than Fallout 3.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 05:25:41 pm
What are you talking about, FNV has completely reworked combat and actually feels like a real shooter. And it's an actual RPG, with an adult storyline compared to the childish, black and white FO3, with real branching dialogue not written by a third grader, a real breathing world full of NPCs and some of the most nuanced player choices seen in an RPG. FNV is a great game and a chronological successor to FO2, FO3 is just a rehash of old Fallout quests in Oblivion, poorly executed.

If anyone dislikes the otherwise awesome Mojave Wasteland setting just try one of the giant DLCs which are all set in different environments.

With all due respect, are you high?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 28, 2014, 05:43:55 pm
With all due respect, are you high?

With all due respect, are YOU high?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 05:46:58 pm
With all due respect, are YOU high?

Oh come on, even a patient of your calibre would have to agree that the ¨OMG UTTERLY REVAMPED COMBAT HOLY SHIT¨ bit is pure BS. I Swear to god, half of people on this forum talk about NV like they did not even play it. Nostalgia goggles much?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 05:49:28 pm
I still play FNV, it has never been off my machine. Have had 15-20 characters or so, only RPG I've played more is FO2, perhaps NWN1 on multiplayer RP servers.

Go install both and tell me you can't tell the difference in combat, especially the ballistics system, it's not a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Tibe on December 28, 2014, 05:52:27 pm
NV was better in most aspects in my opinion aswell. I mean common... That looking for daddy thing got really old really fast. But I wouldnt say NV had a more mature storyline. But id say they were both pretty equal in that department or NV-s plot won it, but close. I liked both games, they were roughly the same anyway. The Elder Scrolls with guns games. Wierd part is, that it kinda works. Gotta hand it to Bethesda, they sure do know what the mainstream likes.

I agree with you that "OMG utterly revamped combat" is indeed pure BS. But NV was better. I played like 3 characters in FO3, I played like 9 in NV. It had more choices that actually mattered and counted for shit.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:00:44 pm
I still play FNV, it has never been off my machine. Have had 15-20 characters or so, only RPG I've played more is FO2, perhaps NWN1 on multiplayer RP servers.

Go install both and tell me you can't tell the difference in combat, especially the ballistics system, it's not a matter of opinion.

They both run on the same engine. The only thing I have noticed that is different from FO3, is the fact that effect of armor fell by incredible margin, which means less tedious repeating of headshots like in FO3.

Also, it is possible that the slutter was fixed already, I am mostly lazy bum that does not bother much with dling patches (fucking chore to install), But I swear to god, vanilla version of that game runs like utter shit. And I mean come on! shogun 2 on high, just cause 2 maxed out, dead space 3 maxed out and this runs like crap? Ive played Skyrim on higher settings with steady 60ish frame rate, yet one brahmin convoy is enough to send the game into vilent spasm of fps lag. If I were to bet, Id say it is definitelly some problem in AI script.

This issue reminds me of recently released FF13 on pc. Game runs nice and easy, until hud appears, completely killing FPS.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Tibe on December 28, 2014, 06:04:48 pm
All TES(and TES with guns) games run like a pile of ass without patching.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:07:06 pm
NV was better in most aspects in my opinion aswell. I mean common... That looking for daddy thing got really old really fast. But I wouldnt say NV had a more mature storyline. But id say they were both pretty equal in that department or NV-s plot won it, but close. I liked both games, they were roughly the same anyway. The Elder Scrolls with guns games. Wierd part is, that it kinda works. Gotta hand it to Bethesda, they sure do know what the mainstream likes.

I agree with you that "OMG utterly revamped combat" is indeed pure BS. But NV was better. I played like 3 characters in FO3, I played like 9 in NV. It had more choices that actually mattered and counted for shit.

Well, I guess in the end, it depends on what theme you really like in the story. The reason the combat of oblivion games works here, is the fact that you dont have to deal with those ugly ass gamebryo limitations, since most characters shoot guns. Melee is rare, and thus it looks good, unlike in oblivion, where was the pitifulness of gamebryo displayed like a golden cup on a shelf behind a layer of glass.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 06:13:37 pm
Concerning combat, FNV had fixed the default spread for all weapons, and introducted real distance to gun fights, weapon mods, ammo types, completely new ballistics. I've played both games for years and the difference is vast for anyone but casual observers.

And concerning the storyline; FNV is political, where you choose between fascism/technocracy, oligarchy/democracy and autocracy, plus the personal story of Courier Six, the Divide and Ullysses (but as usual the real good stuff is in the side quests). In FO3 you played a kid looking for his father, fighting against the evil mutants and evil Enclave with the good Brotherhood guys, a faction any old Fallout gamer just cringed to see portrayed like that, no matter what feeble excuses they came up with. It was like the good paladins against the evil orcs, even World of Warcraft is less of a fairy tale.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 28, 2014, 06:16:36 pm
NV stayed true to the originals (you know, Fallout 1 n 2, considered by most to be the greatest RPGs of all time?)

You wanna know whats so shitty about FO3 story? how it pushed you to be the good guy, seriously, finding ur daddy to restart the water cleaner shit, and then go on to sacrifice yourself to stop the evil enclave. and yea, you could say how "oh but u could poison the wadur! n dats EVILLL!" yea, but there was absolutely NO logical reason or explaination to do it. WHY? why would you suddenly stop and help these dudes who have been trying to kill you.

Fallout NV lets you be a evil bastard right from the get-go and actually gives a logical reason for you doing so. '

also, think of consequences: in the original fallouts, saying the wrong thing, or having low intelligence(funniest part of the game) or making even the slightest wrong choice would change the course of the entire game for you. whether it be chaning the course of a quest, or cutting off your access to entire fucking towns. FO3 had none of that, nothing you did really impacted anything. sure, you could blow up the nuke in the middle of the town (also, where the fuck is the logic behind that?) but that nuke did not have ANY real consequences.

FO3 completely Shat-on the lore of the game. NV restored it.

Dull desert wasteland? lol, in Fallout 1+2, besides the towns, THE ENTIRE FUCKING MAP WAS A BARREN FLAT WASTELAND OF NOTHING.

fuck i could go on and on.
 
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:23:16 pm
Concerning combat, FNV had fixed the default spread for all weapons, and introducted real distance to gun fights, weapon mods, ammo types, completely new ballistics. I've played both games for years and the difference is vast for anyone but casual observers.

And concerning the storyline; FNV is political, where you choose between fascism/technocracy, oligarchy/democracy and old school fascim, plus the personal story of Courier Six, the Divide and Ullysses (but as usual the real good stuff is in the side quests). In FO3 you played a kid looking for his father, fighting against the evil mutants and evil Enclave with the good Brotherhood guys, a faction any old Fallout gamer just cringed to see portrayed like that, no matter what feeble excuses they came up with. It was like the good paladins against the evil orcs, even World of Warcraft is less of a fairy tale.

Statement that brotherhood vs mutants is like paladins vs orks can be fit practically on any fantasy clash of different species. Besides, Nobody plays heed to the main quest in games like those too much. There are too many sidequests to worry about that shit. You are just blinded by your preference of NV. I do not blame you, we all have our favourite titles, but there is no reason to bash other  good games in the series because of that.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Tibe on December 28, 2014, 06:32:39 pm
"blinded by your preference......"?  :lol:

Are you being a cunt and stating "you are wrong!" in hopes that you dont have to explain the exact reason why or are you being philosophical here and stating that we are all blinded by our preferences and nobody is right?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:35:29 pm

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but that nuke did not have ANY real consequences.

Apart from the fact a town with vendors and quest givers was blown the fuck up huh?

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FO3 completely Shat-on the lore of the game. NV restored it.

Lore is about survivors living in a fucking anti nuke bunker. I dont see how FO3 messed up the lore...

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Dull desert wasteland? lol, in Fallout 1+2, besides the towns, THE ENTIRE FUCKING MAP WAS A BARREN FLAT WASTELAND OF NOTHING.

Those games have also been released somewhere around 2000's. there are obvious system limitations genius.

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Fallout NV lets you be a evil bastard right from the get-go and actually gives a logical reason for you doing so.

Gee, apart from the ending, in which you can pull a sacrifice troll of epic proportions, the game totally prevented you from acting like a total asshole...

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NV stayed true to the originals (you know, Fallout 1 n 2, considered by most to be the greatest RPGs of all time?)


*Yawn* this shit again? give it a rest willya? There was a time when was FF7 praised as the best RPG ever. Honestly, have someone who doesnt know those two games play them today. I bet my ass they will not tell you it is the best RPG ever even if you begged them to say that. Again, nostalgia goggles much?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 06:44:46 pm
Statement that brotherhood vs mutants is like paladins vs orks can be fit practically on any fantasy clash of different species.
I just don't buy into the good vs evil bs anymore. The world is much more complex and I look for it in the movies, TV series, games and books I consume. That's a matter of preference, I agree, but bad combat mechanics and lazy and bland dialogue and storyline in FO3 just isn't. It's not a bad game though, as I said I played it for years, but I would never touch it again, and even then it was a big disappointment for any fans of the series.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:48:48 pm
"blinded by your preference......"?  :lol:

Are you being a cunt and stating "you are wrong!" in hopes that you dont have to explain the exact reason why or are you being philosophical here and stating that we are all blinded by our preferences and nobody is right?
I want to point out, that compared to FO3, NV was not that much better, and it actually brought a heap of problems on its own. I dont want to sound like I want to put up an easy solution to this argument to look look like all knowing smart ass, but in the end, it really depends on which one you like better. This argument stemed from the fact I have dared to insult the monotonous environment of NV, along with its atrocious performance on a system far beyond its recomended settings of the all mighty NV, which seems to had infuriated NV fanboys so much they immediatelly rushed to go all crusadey on my ass.

Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 06:52:07 pm
I just don't buy into the good vs evil bs anymore. The world is much more complex and I look for it in the movies, TV series, games and books I consume. That's a matter of preference, I agree, but bad combat mechanics and lazy and bland dialogue and storyline in FO3 just isn't. It's not a bad game though, as I said I played it for years, but I would never touch it again, and even then it was a big disappointment for any fans of the series.

You played it for years, and call it a dissapointment? I do not quite follow honestly....

EDIT: goddammit DP'ed again, sorry guys, shift sleep schedule switching is a tedium, please try to understand.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 28, 2014, 06:54:24 pm
Apart from the fact a town with vendors and quest givers was blown the fuck up huh?
yea, but then you gain access to anothwer town that functions the exact same exempt for a re-skin to make it look even more retarded. and yes, it didnt have any consequences, if you blow it up. nobody fucking cares, people act like it never happened!

Lore is about survivors living in a fucking anti nuke bunker. I dont see how FO3 messed up the lore...
turning BoS into shining white heroes. making super mutants fucking lame. the fact how despite after 200 years, DC still looks like it was bombed yesterday. little lamplight or whatever the cave with the children in it. yea how the hell were only children living there for 200 years acting like the bombs dropped days ago, like i said, i could go on....

Gee, apart from the ending, in which you can pull a sacrifice troll of epic proportions, the game totally prevented you from acting like a total asshole...
 gee, 1 totally minute part of a shitty ending. hell even that part was lame, why not send your supermutant pal in there to safely do it. nope, THAT WOULD BE TOO LOGICAL@

*Yawn* this shit again? give it a rest willya? There was a time when was FF7 praised as the best RPG ever. Honestly, have someone who doesnt know those two games play them today. I bet my ass they will not tell you it is the best RPG ever even if you begged them to say that. Again, nostalgia goggles much? bullshit, plenty of people these days have gone back and played the orginials, and find them to be fun.

but hey, what do i know...
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 06:58:03 pm
I've seen a lot of these discussions and from what I can tell people who like FO3 most usually have either of these arguments shaping their opinion:

1. It was the first Fallout game they played, so it feels more natural to them than FNV.

2. They just like the setting more (and haven't tried the FNV expansions).

3. They are casual gamers, non-rpg gamers or just don't like to read a lot of dialogue and interact with NPCs besides killing stuff.

4. It had been too long since they played FO3 when they tried FNV, and couldn't compare them fairly.

Most people seem to fall into the first and second categories.


You played it for years, and call it a dissapointment? I do not quite follow honestly....

EDIT: goddammit DP'ed again, sorry guys, shift sleep schedule switching is a tedium, please try to understand.
Ha ha, I fully understand. And yes, it can be better than nothing when you've just played FO1 and 2 too many times and still be disappointing in comparison.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 28, 2014, 07:06:02 pm
but hey, what do i know...

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if you blow it up. nobody fucking cares, people act like it never happened!
I cant really remember anyone caring about that town legion burned down either. Speaking of legion, you dont take them as an offence to the lore? DC looked like it was bombed yester day. HELLO! THEY WERE USING NUKES! It doesnt take a genius to realize that even after 200 years, the city would look like it looks.

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. little lamplight or whatever the cave with the children in it. yea how the hell were only children living there for 200 years acting like the bombs dropped days ago

Because the kids could totally not not get into that cave few moths before your character arrives there huh? I mean come on clockwork, if I, after staying awake for 30 hours straight now can come with better logical rasoning than you, there is something terribly aloof with your brain there.

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why not send your supermutant pal in there to safely do it. nope, THAT WOULD BE TOO LOGICAL

Blame bethesda for being money grubbing jews and releasing that as a dlc.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 28, 2014, 07:16:26 pm
I cant really remember anyone caring about that town legion burned down either. Speaking of legion, you dont take them as an offence to the lore? DC looked like it was bombed yester day. HELLO! THEY WERE USING NUKES! It doesnt take a genius to realize that even after 200 years, the city would look like it looks.
legion where set to appear in van buren, the cancelled third game from interplay. as for DC bein nuked, people should have already started to rebuild by 200 years.

Because the kids could totally not not get into that cave few moths before your character arrives there huh? I mean come on clockwork, if I, after staying awake for 30 hours straight now can come with better logical rasoning than you, there is something terribly aloof with your brain there.  because ingame the kids say they've been there since 2077, and talk like the bombs dropped recently. Besides, how the fuck could a buch of little kids, most of whom could barely hold a gun. Survive on there own like that, especially considering they live right next to a vault filled with mutants?

Blame bethesda for being money grubbing jews and releasing that as a dlc.

Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2014, 07:18:59 pm
I've seen a lot of these discussions and from what I can tell people who like FO3 most usually have either of these arguments shaping their opinion:

1. It was the first Fallout game they played, so it feels more natural to them than FNV.

2. They just like the setting more (and haven't tried the FNV expansions).

3. They are casual gamers, non-rpg gamers or just don't like to read a lot of dialogue and interact with NPC besides killing stuff.

4. It had been too long since they played FO3 when they tried FNV, and couldn't compare them fairly.

Most people seem to fall into the first and second categories.

Ha ha, I fully understand. And yes, it can be better than nothing when you've just played FO1 and 2 too many times and still be disappointing in comparison.

You forgot 1 major point at least for me.

5. Fallout 3 at least let's you explore almost all the map with nothing hidden.

NV has invisible walls every corner with entire buildings blocked and unaccessible! That is my biggest gripe with the game. Me coming from elder scroll games I want exploration, not invisible walls and unaccessible places that looked interesting but sadly you can't even get close to them.

Points 3-4 have nothing to do with Fallout 3 vs NV you are just nagging for the heck of it.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Tibe on December 28, 2014, 08:34:56 pm
NV has inaccessable walls? Are u fo reals? FO3 had an assloads of them and they bothered the heck out of me even more than they ever did in NV. I was always pissed off as hell whenever I was hanging around inside the capital. The whole central city is basically a strict corridor, where rubble sticked absolutely everywhere limiting movement and thereby limiting exploration significantly. Area around DC was okay, inside DC i felt super claustrophobic. That why I praised the desert environment with open arms when NV came out.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Vexus on December 28, 2014, 08:43:49 pm
Towns are small sure but I'm talking about the world. I don't give a rat's ass on how big a town is when exploring outside town.

I found a lot of buildings blocked in NV by some small cliffs you can't jump onto because of some invisible wall.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on December 28, 2014, 08:54:00 pm
I agree invisible walls are just a bad way to do it, but there are few in FNV, very few, you must really have been unlucky. In general FO3 is a lot more restricted, most of the game being inside tunnels and having a lot more invisible walls everywhere. DC is practically full of invisible barriers over every pile of rubble.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Nightmare798 on December 29, 2014, 05:41:37 am


Walking dead has kids shooting guns all the time, and so does the last of us. Your point?

You want some kind of realism in a game filled with big green nutants and plasma rifles? Sheesh
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on December 29, 2014, 01:56:49 pm
Wow, calm down guys.

If NV was set in DC I'd be all over it as best game ever. The Mohave is just dull unfortunately and that is the only real issue with NV. Thing is it's like the most important thing when exploration is such a big thing in the game.

Still, if they get Obsidian to make Fallout 4 and put it somewhere cool. Best. Thing. Ever.
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Pestdoktor on December 29, 2014, 02:36:38 pm
If NV was set in DC

http://taleoftwowastelands.com/ (http://taleoftwowastelands.com/)
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Algarn on December 29, 2014, 05:46:35 pm
This is actually going to be good, but is tale of two wastelands compatible with nevada skies ?
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Gravoth_iii on December 29, 2014, 09:03:09 pm
Go play fallout 2, then wastelands 2. ez
Title: Re: Any good mod for Fallout 3 ?
Post by: Angantyr on January 15, 2015, 05:56:47 pm
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A new Fallout thing is happening. Erik Todd Dellums, voice of Three Dog from Fallout 3 (pictured) recently proclaimed that "there may be more of the Dog coming!"

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