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Title: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 10, 2012, 02:13:50 am
Yes, it's that time again.
Strategus Round 3
FactionVillagesCastlesTownsScoreGoldTroops
Druzhina157653473031923478
Grey_Order168344652058632634
Knights Hospitaller147236524792633357
Union144126112413114649
No Faction01626869488273520577
The Empire1251265831604137916
Crusader Alliance63116578717818162
The Nordmen72011294905117309
The Coalition of Fallen and HRE62010308560915088
KUTT21181663985553
Free Peasants of Fisdnar20161771501807
Caravan_Guild31056801666591
The Turks2104253922486762
United Kingdoms of Calradia020487505211232
Legione Italica11033735575093
Merciless300387307764
Crusader Knights1103699551669
Mercs01024097304224
Hate01023452083920
NorseHorde20022182162450
The Brotherhood1001246865556
ATS10014249751469
The PeaceBreakers1001106107382142
Wolves100139894095038

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Strategus Round 4
It will start Sunday, 16:00 CET/14:00 GMT. (unless something goes wrong during this weeks testing)
From there, there will be 4 hours of lockdown (no movement), and then 8 hours of movement and voting. After that, all fiefs will be assigned with the new voting system.

The full changelog will be released sunday, we wouldn't want to spoil the fun ;)

All beta players should please join the strategus 4 beta testing during the week.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 10, 2012, 02:15:28 am
Yay!
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Hmm can I has beta too btw?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Jarlek on September 10, 2012, 02:30:33 am
All right!

EDIT:
Just saw this:
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Huey Newton on September 10, 2012, 03:16:30 am
im gay
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Canary on September 10, 2012, 03:17:40 am
I am posting here because of how exciting this is.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: BoneSaw on September 10, 2012, 03:26:52 am
Here we are then.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Kirbyy on September 10, 2012, 03:29:50 am
Woot! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Warborn304 on September 10, 2012, 03:31:28 am
Are the NA/EU territories going to be swapped this time around?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: arowaine on September 10, 2012, 03:34:28 am
yay finaly over
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Kelugarn on September 10, 2012, 03:49:34 am
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: HardRice on September 10, 2012, 03:57:38 am
There go my grades.

 :twisted:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Noctivagant on September 10, 2012, 03:59:30 am
Can't wait to see ideas of Tomas and yours in action, got faith in that blindly
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Nessaj on September 10, 2012, 03:59:41 am
Some of those gold balances are quite fishy.

I demand we have an independent commission investigate everything!

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 10, 2012, 04:10:10 am
Can't wait to see ideas of Tomas and yours in action, got faith in that blindly
can't even believe myself that i am agreed with this guy , who the fuck is tomas to give ideas and improve strategus ?
Give me one success of Fallen Bridage ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Visconti on September 10, 2012, 04:11:31 am
So, are current factions gonna be wiped, or is it gonna be using the existing ones for voting?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2012, 05:27:22 am
So 12:00 CET (I'm assuming that's on a 24 hour clock) so 12pm CET would be 5am CST? (10:27pm right now when I'm posting).

Or just confirm if CET is currently +2 gmt?

I'm very excited for this new version of strategus, a lot of good changes happened in version 3, the main one being that you need to play c-rpg to be useful in strategus. 

That being said, you should cap the strategus ticks at like 1000....I currently have 6482 strategus ticks.  I could go afk for 270 days and still be doing shit in strat...
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Taser on September 10, 2012, 05:31:34 am
In on this.

And yeah CET is +2 GMT.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 10, 2012, 05:34:29 am
Strat 4 starts on my birthday! Can I have presents?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: BaleOhay on September 10, 2012, 05:44:15 am
I hope they figure out the Strat battle lag in Strat 4... As the fight progresses it becomes nearly unplayable. I go to swing and my arm freezes and never releases. Getting hit with shield up etc. Just rough.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Malaclypse on September 10, 2012, 05:45:42 am
Nothing like COMIC SANS MS to get our attention. Rad!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 10, 2012, 05:51:35 am
Hoping for a better strategus .
Thanks for all the epic sieges lots of rage , hatred , fail attempts , bugs , but mostly lots of fun and exp.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Turboflex on September 10, 2012, 05:55:52 am
is 12:00 CET  8 am eastern?

So 5 am pacific?

Bad times for NA... Can't you bump it up 4 hours?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 10, 2012, 06:37:43 am
looking forward to strat 4.0, thanks developers and admins to keep it coming
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: MarktpLatz on September 10, 2012, 06:38:45 am
That being said, you should cap the strategus ticks at like 1000....I currently have 6482 strategus ticks.  I could go afk for 270 days and still be doing shit in strat...

Nope, since you need two ticks for every hour, you could only "go afk" for 135 days :P

2Topic: Where is the problem for the NA players? 4 hours for your leadership to organize the members (or even more) and 8 hours of movement. Shouldn´t be a problem to be up at 9 o´clock on a sunday :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Huey Newton on September 10, 2012, 07:01:17 am
is 12:00 CET  8 am eastern?

So 5 am pacific?

Bad times for NA... Can't you bump it up 4 hours?

this
also

I don't understand the voting system.
I read the description of it in the announcement but it doesn't make much sense to me
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Snickers on September 10, 2012, 07:06:22 am

It will start Sunday, 12:00 CET. (unless something goes wrong during this weeks testing)
From there, there will be 4 hours of lockdown (no movement), and then 8 hours of movement and voting. After that, all fiefs will be assigned with the new voting system.


Assuming  that the bias against NA players is not intentional, wouldn't it make more sense to make it 24 hours, since that would allow people who sleep at proper hours a chance to vote.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 10, 2012, 07:23:55 am
Over a third of the people in North America regularly attend church, so this time allocation is absolutely hilarious even discounting the time if it were any other day besides Sunday.

I don't suppose there is any way to get a one-or-three line proper explanation that describes why only 8 hours are available.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: KingBread on September 10, 2012, 07:26:52 am
I' so exited.

Cicero

One succes ? Tomas is giving his ideas to chadz. :)
can't even believe myself that i am agreed with this guy , who the fuck is tomas to give ideas and improve strategus ?
Give me one success of Fallen Bridage ?
One success ? Tomas is giving his ideas to chadz. :)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 10, 2012, 07:29:53 am
Give me one success of Fallen Bridage ?

Strat 2 spoke for itself, as did a few tournaments (Like the multi-clan tournament) and a few other things. I like that for an old-timer you live in a very closed box.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Goretooth on September 10, 2012, 07:30:42 am
Over a third of the people in North America regularly attend church, so this time allocation is absolutely hilarious even discounting the time if it were any other day besides Sunday.

I don't suppose there is any way to get a one-or-three line proper explanation that describes why only 8 hours are available.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Visconti on September 10, 2012, 07:34:09 am
Yeah really, 8 hours? Kinda screws over NA, why not a 24 hour period? Doesnt seem like it would be such a big deal to just wait a little longer till voting ends.....
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 10, 2012, 07:36:20 am
Yeah really, 8 hours? Kinda screws over NA, why not a 24 hour period? Doesnt seem like it would be such a big deal to just wait a little longer till voting ends.....

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Vibe on September 10, 2012, 07:40:16 am
Not Europes problem that NA uses the wrong time
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Goretooth on September 10, 2012, 07:41:26 am
Not Europes problem that NA uses the wrong time
Yeah screw them for not taking the boat ride over.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 10, 2012, 07:45:31 am
This is just a conspiracy by Paul to punish us for throwing all that tea into the ocean.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Goretooth on September 10, 2012, 07:47:13 am
This is just a conspiracy by Paul to punish us for throwing all that tea into the ocean.
yo check out who made the last attack for strat 3  :wink:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: KingBread on September 10, 2012, 08:00:10 am
We stop mages invasion !
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Kalp on September 10, 2012, 08:05:04 am
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Visconti on September 10, 2012, 08:18:52 am
Not Europes problem that NA uses the wrong time

Is it that big of a deal to give an extra 16 hours so that all players get a chance to vote? You know, so its fair?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 10, 2012, 09:24:17 am
In memory of Nord_Thovex, member of Merciless, ruler of Glunmar

I joined Nords about a few weeks ago in strat now but ok!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 10, 2012, 09:38:06 am
The reason why it's only 4+8 hours is to give factions not enough time to plan everything with all other factions properly. Way more chaotic this way.

Chaotic means more scrambled.

More scrambled means more action.

We're thinking about moving it to 16:00 CET though.

Also, the first 4 hours are just setup time - which means it doesn't matter if you join at the beginning or the end of the 4 hours.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Ganner on September 10, 2012, 09:46:36 am
Chaos is good.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 10, 2012, 09:47:54 am
Chaos is good.

I don't like where this is going.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Dach on September 10, 2012, 09:52:23 am
I don't like where this is going.

Why? Everyone love Chaos!  8-)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Spanish on September 10, 2012, 10:43:27 am
Party time just like in Dach's avatar......and I still cant get over how cute she is :L
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 10:57:12 am
Let's get ready to rumble!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 10, 2012, 11:22:43 am
Awwww yeah.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: djavo on September 10, 2012, 11:27:31 am
Yeah im so excited. Time for new Nord Grey alliance.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 11:36:35 am
djavo you must learn to let go of old resentments!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Sable Keech on September 10, 2012, 11:40:39 am
Gonna have to build my Wizard army again from scratch.  :wink:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: djavo on September 10, 2012, 11:48:45 am
djavo you must learn to let go of old resentments!

I just cant let it go, im like elephant
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But youre right, this is new strategus, new backstabs will be made.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 10, 2012, 12:06:55 pm
i know that UIF shall be formed once more  :cry:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 10, 2012, 01:14:09 pm
1) No Faction 8.694.882.735   
2) Other semi-active clans with huge amount of money


I know what we(DRZ) had one of the strongest economics with best trading routes(about 300% bonus), exploits & second keys but all that we could make is 5kk.  :cry:
This guys are economic genius or cheaters. Hope this will be fixed in new strat.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 10, 2012, 01:16:23 pm
i know that UIF shall be formed once more  :cry:
Perhaps they surprise us all and fight each other.
As i said before and from the new system supported *jumpsinjoy* wolves will settle somewhere else in every strategus round, making new friends and new enemies. I also support Okin with his statement, we need to learn to let go of the past!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 10, 2012, 01:37:51 pm
Strat 2 spoke for itself, as did a few tournaments (Like the multi-clan tournament) and a few other things. I like that for an old-timer you live in a very closed box.
I am so sorry mate i made a huge mistake you are right making tournaments is totally connected with strategus.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: [ptx] on September 10, 2012, 01:52:50 pm
I am so sorry, but what did bashibazouks ever do in strat, apart from ganking someone whilst behind the back of a big brother UIF? Hurp a durpa.

Fuck, i am actually hyped for this strat iteration, might even have to get back into the whole being-in-a-clan/faction business >_<
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on September 10, 2012, 02:58:48 pm
In case you were in doubt about when round 4 starts:

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Noctivagant on September 10, 2012, 03:06:08 pm
1) No Faction 8.694.882.735   
2) Other semi-active clans with huge amount of money


I know what we(DRZ) had one of the strongest economics with best trading routes(about 300% bonus), exploits & second keys but all that we could make is 5kk.  :cry:
This guys are economic genius or cheaters. Hope this will be fixed in new strat.

Yeah and apparently the Gravity is the best player of this game and I've never seen him playing....those things that make you go "hmmmmmmmmmmm"....
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 10, 2012, 03:25:57 pm
I am so sorry mate i made a huge mistake you are right making tournaments is totally connected with strategus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7LrViaPq7M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7LrViaPq7M)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 03:48:22 pm
For Werfried!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Turkhammer on September 10, 2012, 04:45:34 pm


That being said, you should cap the strategus ticks at like 1000....I currently have 6482 strategus ticks.  I could go afk for 270 days and still be doing shit in strat...

Not everyone has no life Cracka.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Turkhammer on September 10, 2012, 04:47:10 pm
is 12:00 CET  8 am eastern?

So 5 am pacific?

Bad times for NA... Can't you bump it up 4 hours?

Even earlier.  1200 CET is 0600 EST. 
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Turboflex on September 10, 2012, 05:35:31 pm
ahaha wow really? wtf
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Bjarky on September 10, 2012, 06:32:46 pm
OP says that the first 4 hours will be frozen, so it will really start before lunch for NA and afternoon for EU.
should be doable on a sunday  :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on September 10, 2012, 06:44:09 pm
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But... What about Asia?

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2012, 06:48:05 pm
Turk I have a life...it's just that when I play video games (about 6 or 7 nights out of every 14 days) I only play c-rpg.  It's like a drug man, chadz got me hooked.

Ramses according to my google-fu your current time is 11:47pm (12 hours ahead of CST), so strat would start for you on Sunday at 5pm (and you would be able to move your char at 9pm).

5am does seem pretty ridiculous for people to be getting up to coordinate their clans efforts, the EU's will have a huge advantage.  Granted you can't move until 9am (CST), but still...there will be little to no coordination able to take place.

I think you're better off not having a 4 hour period of planning if you want to have all this chaos happen.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Turboflex on September 10, 2012, 06:49:26 pm
If Turkhammer is right that means it gets unlocked at 7am pacific time for west coasters which is ridiculously early on a sunday and even if they set their alarms for 6:55am that means NA clans miss the chance to discuss plans during the 4 hour lock phase which is gonna be pretty important cuz clans need to decide which fiefs to direct their members to during the movement phase since being close = extra votes.

NA clans are gonna be handicapped in this fief grab phase, which is gonna create an imbalance unless the devs are giving NA/EU seperate map servers. I doubt it since nothing has been mentioned, I am sure The Fallen lobby won out on mixed map, hopefully they will actually play out strat this time.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tuetensuppe on September 10, 2012, 06:52:22 pm
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for all you gaijins out there ;)



Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 06:52:53 pm
I don't really see what the problem is. Even if NA gets slightly worse voting times, it's not like you're going to be competing over the same fiefs as EU, so what difference does it make?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: RamsesXXIIX on September 10, 2012, 06:58:53 pm
Turk I have a life...it's just that when I play video games (about 6 or 7 nights out of every 14 days) I only play c-rpg.  It's like a drug man, chadz got me hooked.

Ramses according to my google-fu your current time is 11:47pm (12 hours ahead of CST), so strat would start for you on Sunday at 5pm (and you would be able to move your char at 9pm).

5am does seem pretty ridiculous for people to be getting up to coordinate their clans efforts, the EU's will have a huge advantage.  Granted you can't move until 9am (CST), but still...there will be little to no coordination able to take place.

I think you're better off not having a 4 hour period of planning if you want to have all this chaos happen.

I know my timezone alright, thanks anyway ;)

Here I have to get up at 5:30, so going to bed early is a priority. But 9 pm might be durable, not sure.

I am sure The Fallen lobby won out on mixed map, hopefully they will actually play out strat this time.

Right, because all this didn't happen: (Warning, long spoiler)

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By far the most of these battles are NA btw.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: tizzango on September 10, 2012, 06:59:44 pm
can't even believe myself that i am agreed with this guy , who the fuck is tomas to give ideas and improve strategus ?

I assume chadz wanted the opinion from someone who is humble, level-headed and intelligible, and not someone who is incoherent, loud mouthed and egotistical?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 10, 2012, 07:13:21 pm
mad fallen is mad hope ; QQ more you will cry after sunday also UIF , So strong omg omg
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 07:27:48 pm
NA clans are gonna be handicapped in this fief grab phase, which is gonna create an imbalance unless the devs are giving NA/EU seperate map servers. I doubt it since nothing has been mentioned, I am sure The Fallen lobby won out on mixed map, hopefully they will actually play out strat this time.
Split the fucking map already, I think Fallen are the only guys who are against it.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 10, 2012, 07:44:43 pm
I know my timezone alright, thanks anyway ;)

Here I have to get up at 5:30, so going to bed early is a priority. But 9 pm might be durable, not sure.

Right, because all this didn't happen: (Warning, long spoiler)

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By far the most of these battles are NA btw.

Till you read the battle details, then its all 50vs0 matches killing randomers or people who don't even play strat.  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Jarlek on September 10, 2012, 08:17:49 pm
Till you read the battle details, then its all 50vs0 matches killing randomers or people who don't even play strat.  :P
OH SNAP!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Fartface on September 10, 2012, 08:28:36 pm
You know shit is about to go down when Thovex bothers to posts ! , also I´m excited to see this .
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: tizzango on September 10, 2012, 08:47:21 pm
mad fallen is mad hope ; QQ more you will cry after sunday also UIF , So strong omg omg

With posts like that do you think chadz will turn to you for Strategus advice?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 08:56:36 pm
With posts like that do you think chadz will turn to you for Strategus advice?
Ofc he will.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on September 10, 2012, 09:08:42 pm
I am so sorry, but what did bashibazouks ever do in strat, apart from ganking someone whilst behind the back of a big brother UIF? Hurp a durpa.

Fuck, i am actually hyped for this strat iteration, might even have to get back into the whole being-in-a-clan/faction business >_<

Apply for the FallenBrigade right now! :P!
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Post by: STR_Ivan_Grozny on September 10, 2012, 09:30:21 pm
Razin vs T_kht_Ritter - Show Details
Hospitaller_Lordark_Knight vs STR_w1LD - Show Details
Templar_Dark_Blade vs T_hpt_KiCk - Show Details
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Sof_Soldier vs STR_Rat - Show Details
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T_frost vs T_kht_Rubalo - Show Details
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STR_w1LD vs Fallen_izatopia - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Haen - Show Details
Templar_Dark_Blade vs STR_Rat - Show Details
Malaclypse_of_Chaos vs STR_Rolliks - Show Details
Fallen_Cruven vs Paul_von_Steeven - Show Details
Leniole_The_PeaceBreaker vs Haen - Show Details
Scorpio_LordKevin vs Tosdhar - Show Details
T_cmd_Olaf vs SB_Manfred_the_Red_Baron - Show Details
Templar_Dark_Blade vs aD_RaGe - Show Details
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STR_w1LD vs Fallen_CronicNeurotic - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs Chalbek Castle - Show Details
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The_Black_Duke_Apocalyps vs Fedner - Show Details
Kapikulu_Abay vs SuperPro - Show Details
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Occitan_Ferguson vs STR_Aimbot - Show Details
Humm vs Dirigsene - Show Details
Hospitaller_Graf_Hodenschaf vs SiKo_The_Stranger - Show Details
STR_aD_Aleman vs Templar_Omega_ - Show Details
Gidropinok_The_Pillager vs STR_Sen - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs SB_Tangeizer - Show Details
aD_MeDveD vs Hospitaller_Havoc - Show Details
Hospitaller_Havoc vs Hrus Castle - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs Orjol_Reich - Show Details
Leniole_The_PeaceBreaker vs Rizi - Show Details
Templar_Omega_ vs T_starichokololo - Show Details
SB_sgt_Diter_Wallenrode vs Hrus Castle - Show Details
STR_Sen vs SB_Berzerker - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs Kapikulu_Snake_Reis - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Robin_Blade_HREr - Show Details
STR_Sen vs The_Devious_Duc_Volpe - Show Details
STR_aD_Aleman vs GK_LungieTheHan_Kamikaze - Show Details
OMM_Keltrius_the_Lucky vs STR_Deuce - Show Details
T_frost vs Original - Show Details
SanderssonJankins_FIDLGB vs STR_aD_spooner - Show Details
Nemo_the_forest_bandit vs ArtemRUS - Show Details
STR_Sen vs KoB_Sir_Richard - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs OMM_Tontof - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Sanitar - Show Details
T_hpt_Heinz_von_Schweppe vs Hrus Castle - Show Details
Serr_the_PeaceBreaker vs stranger_nayman - Show Details
aD_RaGe vs SoA_Tervel - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs GK_Boombastic - Show Details
STR_aD_spooner vs Snickers_BRD - Show Details
SB_Sir_Sorokopud vs STR_q1cker - Show Details
T_khn_Ritter vs Hrus Castle - Show Details
T_rtr_Alejandro_Kableo vs Cedern - Show Details
WeLLy vs STR_Aimbot - Show Details
STR_Rat vs Engurrand_IV_FIDLGB - Show Details
Nieznany_Sprawca_the_Grey vs Aldelen - Show Details
STR_q1cker vs SB_sir_Mendosa - Show Details
CudgelMaster vs 22nd_War_Quantum - Show Details
STR_aD_Aleman vs Aldelen - Show Details
T_rtr_Alejandro_Kableo vs Pantheon_Gimest_DeGyrst - Show Details
T_Gennri vs Razin - Show Details
Razin vs Kulum - Show Details
aD_RaGe vs AEF_Lord_Pukudo_IX - Show Details
STR_q1cker vs Saracen_Vagamir_Ibn_Fadlan - Show Details
Merc_CaNJoHN vs STR_Deuce - Show Details
STR_Rat vs URSS_Jarl_Onurb_GS - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs Merc_Loki_God_of_Fire - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Templar_Byrdi - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Engurrand_IV_FIDLGB - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Kapikulu_CoBRa - Show Details
STR_aD_Aleman vs 22nd_Hsc_Evgen - Show Details
CudgelMaster vs 22nd_Rng_JohanE - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Williamon_Of_Teneris - Show Details
Grey_volk vs RoyalKnight_Spartacus - Show Details
22nd_Rng_JohanE vs Buillin - Show Details
aD_RaGe vs The_Black_Jarl_Aragorn - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Noxx_the_Butcher - Show Details
STR_Rat vs RoyalKnight_Hagur - Show Details
SiKo_The_Stranger vs Kartoffeln - Show Details
STR_djebe_naiob vs Rizi - Show Details
STR_Rat vs RoyalKnight_Alexjei - Show Details
CudgelMaster vs Hospitaller_Vespasian - Show Details
STR_djebe_naiob vs Rizi - Show Details
Razin vs aD_MeDveD - Show Details
SuperPro vs Rizi - Show Details
Knight_ vs Hospitaller_Vespasian - Show Details
STR_Rat vs Haen - Show Details
BarLas_Lacoste vs aD_RaGe - Show Details
T_frost vs GK_Surhay - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs GK_Shishkebab_the_ugly - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Kapikulu_WeLLy - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Merc_Mtemtko - Show Details
aD_RaGe vs MercA_Pejlaen - Show Details
aD_MeDveD vs Rizi - Show Details
Sanitar vs STR_tortoul - Show Details
_FERZ_ vs STR_djebe_naiob - Show Details
Razin vs T_starichokololo - Show Details
T_frost vs DireFerret - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Wolves_LW_Welkin - Show Details
Razin vs STR_tortouI - Show Details
STR_djebe_naiob vs Leniole_The_PeaceBreaker - Show Details
T_starichokololo vs Rizi - Show Details
Saracen_PanBaba_the_Jihadist vs SiKo_The_Stranger - Show Details
Merc_Noctivagant vs aD_RaGe - Show Details
STR_Rat vs Sir_Joseph_de_Valois - Show Details
Razin vs Knight_ - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Ranger_Shizz_Kill_V - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Sir_Lancealittle - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Saracen_Corwinoglu - Show Details
Ratface vs Buillin - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Saracen_PanBaba_the_Jihadist - Show Details
Herkkutatti_The_Ratface vs Buillin - Show Details
T_frost vs SB_TomS_Papal_Guard - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Joseklos - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs SB_TomS_Papal_Guard - Show Details
Corsair831 vs STR_Sen - Show Details
T_starichokololo vs Merc_Tyr_le_Rouge - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Require_MB - Show Details
STR_Decky_smile vs NH_BlackWhite - Show Details
T_frost vs vitaliy_mikh - Show Details
T_frost vs VR_knz_Vitovt - Show Details
Gocha_PigWarrior vs STR_M3RliN - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Fallen_Oohillac - Show Details
T_frost vs Jedi_Apprentice_Varyag - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs MercA_Haboe - Show Details
Katafraktos vs T_cmd_Wilhelm_Tell - Show Details
_Praetor_ vs STR_Melendil - Show Details
Grandma vs Vayejeg - Show Details
Templar_Guy vs Mechin - Show Details
Luk_Astralis vs STR_Han_Hanich - Show Details
SB_BerG vs STR_Chort - Show Details
AL_O_Aldogalus_MB vs STR_Han_Hanich - Show Details
CotgS_Ayween vs STR_Doomers - Show Details
Black_Knight_of_Death vs NHr_Argoth - Show Details
Pard_98 vs Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll - Show Details
Kapikulu_Tomahawk vs T_hpt_KiCk - Show Details
Deserter_Have_At_Thee vs Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Deserter_Have_At_Thee - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Merciless_Kratos_the_Capulcu - Show Details
Deserter_Have_At_Thee vs STR_Decky_smile - Show Details
STFU_Donny_FIDLGB vs STR_Herkkutatti - Show Details
Canary_Of_Chaos vs T_hpt_KiCk - Show Details
STR_Herkkutatti vs Brontosaurus_FIDLGB - Show Details
Deserter_Have_At_Thee vs STR_HAEMHUK - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Orjol_Reich - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs RL_Battousai_Earthdforce_BS - Show Details
SB_Diter_Wallenrode vs T_hpt_KiCk - Show Details
Hamilton_the_Warriorpriest vs aD_RaGe - Show Details
T_hpt_KiCk vs The_Dude_FIDLGB - Show Details
The_Dude_FIDLGB vs STR_aD_fmax - Show Details
Herkkutatti vs Jaren_ManAtArms_of_TKoV - Show Details
SB_BergsGrandma vs Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll - Show Details
Herkkutatti vs Merc_Cris - Show Details
STR_Decky_smile vs templar_de_pieter - Show Details
Kapikulu_Illuyanka_Piggy vs STR_Boroda - Show Details
ivani4 vs T_AFK - Show Details
The_Dude_FIDLGB vs Ismirala - Show Details
T_frost vs Udiniad - Show Details
SB_BergsGrandma vs T_sgt_zDevilBox - Show Details
Templar_Guy vs Vezin - Show Details
HoC_WarChief_BoneSaw vs Fearichen - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs N4B_Otus_VI_The_Staffmaster - Show Details
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV vs Ruvar - Show Details
SB_BergsGrandma vs Udiniad - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs my old friend_Son_of_Zeus - Show Details
T_Gennri vs Tanken_KUTT - Show Details
Herkkutatti vs Sleepypanda_Knight_of_TKoV - Show Details
T_frost vs Vezin - Show Details
SB_BergsGrandma vs Udiniad - Show Details
Hobb_BS_Captain_of_TKoV vs Jayek - Show Details
my old friend_Son_of_Zeus vs STR_Garry - Show Details
Pillaging_Ces vs STR_Jelkan - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Vezin - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs PRO_Robin_Longstride - Show Details
ivani4 vs STR_Jaratam - Show Details
Templar_Guy vs Vezin - Show Details
Templar_Guy vs Vezin - Show Details
STR_Herkkutatti vs Kapikulu_MahirTheKusucurtmaz - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs Adoptagoat_of_TKoV - Show Details
STR_Herkkutatti vs Vayejeg - Show Details
Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll vs Legio_Ser_Rob - Show Details
Harzem_SreTKosT vs Project_NerdRage - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs SHC_Slovis - Show Details
Engurrand_II_FIDLGB vs Grey_volk - Show Details
PrimeMinister_Jeff_Of_Canada vs STR_Herkkutatti - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs AL_O_Aldogalus_MB - Show Details
STR_Herkkutatti vs Kapikulu_Ottomans_Guard - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs Kapikulu_Tamerlan - Show Details
T_Gennri vs Ruvar - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Ruvar - Show Details
Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch vs Ruvar - Show Details
AL_O_Aldogalus_MB vs Vezin - Show Details
AL_O_Aldogalus_MB vs Vezin - Show Details
Adoptagoat_of_TKoV vs Fearichen - Show Details
Amuro_Ray_of_Chaos vs Ismirala - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs Fallen_Atomsk_The_CashewNuts - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Oxrock_Knight_of_TKoV - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs Fearichen - Show Details
SoF_Voin vs STR_M3RliN - Show Details
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV vs Odasan - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Kapikulu_Casanowa90 - Show Details
LLJK_Chingao vs Ismirala - Show Details
Renten_Veteran_of_TkoV vs Odasan - Show Details
T_sgt_zDevilBox vs Vezin - Show Details
Hans_von_Sperlek vs STR_Rolliks - Show Details
Renten_Veteran_of_TkoV vs Odasan - Show Details
Bezlikiy_The_Pillager vs enigmatic_stranger - Show Details
Grey_volk vs Token_JesusNinja_MB - Show Details
T_zDevilBox vs FrugFrug_MB - Show Details
KazeNodachi_dredor vs STR_Rolliks - Show Details
LLJK_RibaldRon_III vs T_rtr_novichek - Show Details
MercA_Ulruk vs STR_Sojetsu - Show Details
T_zDevilBox vs Udiniad - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Ruvar - Show Details
SuperPro vs Syls_Chancellor_of_TKoV - Show Details
Grey_volk vs LLJK_Damug - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Odasan - Show Details
STR_aD_fmax vs Jayek - Show Details
STR_aD_fmax vs Jayek - Show Details
SuperPro vs Egad_Marksman_TKoV - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs SB_BergsGrandma - Show Details
Konrax_of_Chaos vs STR_Jaratam - Show Details
SuperPro vs ManOfWar_Chaos - Show Details
Stepan_Razin vs STR_Aimbot - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Kapikulu_Atas - Show Details
Tristran_Steward_of_TKoV vs Lone_Wolf_The_Scotch - Show Details
SuperPro vs Algaroth - Show Details
STR_Jaratam vs Bezlikiy_The_Pillager - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Merc_Leniole - Show Details
T_knp_VAN_Damme vs Dorfbauer_Maximus - Show Details
STR_Amphi vs Stepan_Razin - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Robin_Longstride_of_Chaos - Show Details
Bezlikiy_The_Pillager vs Kulum - Show Details
Chase_and_Status_The_Scotch vs Ismirala - Show Details
T_kht_Ritter vs Mechin - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Trzeci - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Shik - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs KoB_Squire_Yorvik - Show Details
Franke_HRE vs T_frost - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Vyincourd Castle - Show Details
Chase_and_Status_The_Scotch vs Vyincourd Castle - Show Details
Kvorax vs STR_Boroda - Show Details
SuperPro vs DireFerret - Show Details
EL_TORO_LOCO vs SiKo_The_Stranger - Show Details
SuperPro vs Keira_Duskfang - Show Details
STR_Rolliks vs Fallen_Ramses - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs HoC_Retainer_Zorak - Show Details
RuConquista_SayAttack vs T_cmd_Olaf - Show Details
KOJ_King_Maddane vs T_frost - Show Details
Kapikulu_Reaktor vs Sex_Drugs_and_RocknRoll - Show Details
T_mgstr_Grellenort vs Grunwalder Castle - Show Details
USA_BARACK_OBAMA_AMERICA vs STR_Deuce - Show Details
enigmatic_stranger vs SchokoSchaf_Wolper - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs Uxkhal - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Uxkhal - Show Details
Fallen_Ulruk vs T_knp_VAN_Damme - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Merc_Loki_God_of_Fire - Show Details
STR_SHAGRATH vs USA_NARUTO_SASUKE_420_MERICA - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Inquisitorin_Tracy - Show Details
T_hptm_XpbI4 vs Native_ATS - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs Ergellon Castle - Show Details
T_hpt_Heinz_von_Schweppe vs Guard_Farrok - Show Details
STR_djebe_naiob vs Lowca - Show Details
Knight_Apocalyps vs Yaragar - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs Cent_Rottman - Show Details
Tydeus_dfc vs STR_Gameover_xbowman - Show Details
FRANK_THE_TANK vs STR_New_Noob_Teodor - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Merc_SlickyRicky - Show Details
Invicti_Rex_SittingBull vs enigmatic_stranger - Show Details
Harafat_HRE vs _Praetor_ - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs MercA_Pandemona - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Fallen_Fonhu - Show Details
GokTurk_YnScN vs T_sgt_zDevilBox - Show Details
HomelessJoe_ATS vs T_Ritter - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs Dan_CHEATS - Show Details
Dan_CHEATS vs STR_Amur - Show Details
STR_djebe_naiob vs Kulum - Show Details
STR_Deuce vs ANTr_Arcona - Show Details
mEgan_Fox_ATS vs majotsu_the_Stranger - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs AntiBlitz_ATS - Show Details
AntiBlitz_ATS vs STR_Chort - Show Details
Mau5_The_Scotch vs Chide - Show Details
STR_BOLT vs Burglen - Show Details
Grey_volk_The_Scotch vs Mendosa_The_Pillager - Show Details
T_rtr_novichek vs Pagundur - Show Details
STR_Sojetsu vs Savart - Show Details
Dubiena vs Serindiar - Show Details
T_hpt_Heinz_von_Schweppe vs Nomar - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Yaragar - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Yaragar - Show Details
STR_Ivan_Grozny vs Yaragar - Show Details

Union battle in 3rd STRATEGUS!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 10, 2012, 09:37:36 pm
I hope its gonna be fun and not racist and discriminating stuff

Chris
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 10, 2012, 09:40:56 pm
I am so sorry, but what did bashibazouks ever do in strat, apart from ganking someone whilst behind the back of a big brother UIF? Hurp a durpa.

Fuck, i am actually hyped for this strat iteration, might even have to get back into the whole being-in-a-clan/faction business >_<
deserters is best clan  just saying
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 09:44:32 pm
deserters is best clan  just saying
Werfrieds Peasant Battalion kicks deserters in the nuts, and after you've been kicked in the nuts the Goat will strike you with lightning.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 10, 2012, 09:56:44 pm
CONFIRMED NA MAP:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x41/Werg78/NAmap.jpg

EU MAP WILL BE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NORMAL STRAT MAP

MAPS ARE CONNECTED VIA DESERT AND SNOWY REGIONS


For the record NA has 40% of its fiefs removed to balance NA/EU populations
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 09:57:52 pm
CONFIRMED NA MAP:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x41/Werg78/NAmap.jpg

EU MAP WILL BE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NORMAL STRAT MAP


For the record NA has 40% of its fiefs removed to balance NA/EU populations
Tomas I love you like crazy right now, Cicero go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 09:58:39 pm
CONFIRMED NA MAP:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x41/Werg78/NAmap.jpg

EU MAP WILL BE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NORMAL STRAT MAP

MAPS ARE CONNECTED VIA DESERT AND SNOWY REGIONS


For the record NA has 40% of its fiefs removed to balance NA/EU populations

The two maps are still connected, though. Aside from the increase in fief count, it's basically the same as last round. :(
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 10, 2012, 10:03:46 pm
The two maps are still connected, though. Aside from the increase in fief count, it's basically the same as last round. :(
Wait what!? They're connected!? Tomas I no longer love you, Cicero, still go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 10, 2012, 10:04:26 pm
STRAT ANNOUNCEMENT - CHANGELOG

1) No more AI Fiefs - Fiefs will be voted upon during the first 12 hours of Strat.  You can vote for anybody in any Fief but the closer you are to the Fief the more your vote will count.  Once the 12 hours are up, fiefs will be awarded to the vote winners and Strat will start from there.  Please note you will not be able to move during the first 4 hours of the vote.

Strat 4 will now start at 16:00 CET on Sunday 16th September

2) No more troop or gold grinding.  Troops and gold are generated automatically using the tick system.  You can only create one at a time though.  By default you will create troops and this will happen until you reach a troop cap that you set yourself.  Clicking to set a troop cap lower than your current number of troops will fire your excess troops on the spot

3) No more goods grinding.  Fiefs now produce goods and anybody can buy them.  Goods production rates and prices can be changed by fief owners, whilst the price will be further affected by goods supply/demand and the Fief’s tax rate

4) No more chadz Text or Equipment Crafting.  Instead Fief owners can pick what items they want their fief to sell and what level they want those items to be.  Fief Owners can also decide whether or not to discount equipment prices.  Note: In order to buy siege equip you must upgrade it to +0 first. 

5) New Trade Distance Bonuses - High trade bonuses will be achievable at just 50km.

6) New Troop Upkeep Curve - Upto 100 troops are now free and armies over 1000 troops are progressively more expensive than in the past

7) Fief customisation that allows all the above changes.  Fief gain Production Points per day and these can be spent on the changes mentioned previously.  Small changes are cheap, big changes like upgrading to MW are expensive.

FIEF POINTS SYSTEM
- Villages start with 200 Points to spend and gain 1 per day there after
- Castles start with 100 points and gain 5 per day there after
- Towns start with 0 points and gain 7 per day there after
- You can respec your points at any time but it will cost you 50% of your current points and takes 4 days to come into effect
- All Items start at -2
-2 -> -1 = 1 point
-1 -> 0 = 1 point
0 -> +1 = 8 points
+1 -> +2 = 16 points
+2 -> +3 = 32 points
- Equipment discounts apply to individual items, go up in multiples of 5% and cost 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 points per level
- Changing the tax rate of a fief by 1% in either direction costs 5 upgrade points.
- Goods prices start at 15 gold and cost 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 per change in either direction from 15.
- Default fief transactions per day is 200 at a goods price of 15.  These arrive hourly and each transaction can be used to buy or sell 1 good. . At 5 gold per good transactions are increased to 400 per day.  At 25 gold per good transactions are reduced to 100 per day.  This scales linearly in between the values mentioned.  Transactions can be increased by 2 for every 1 PP spent
Update 16.09.2012
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)
9) Towncenter
Whenever you are in a fief, you can put goods into a towncenter for other people to buy. You do this by increasing the selling price over the fief limit. You have a separate tab to view all offers around the world at all times, so you can plan trading routes.
10) looting system has been changed. no more randomness. at the end of a battle, the winner receives all of the goods of the loser. the items that were used receive a penalty of -2 to it's loom level and are distributed 25% to the loser, 50% to the winner.
11) retreating is actually surrendering, all rules of #10 come into effect
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Syls on September 10, 2012, 10:33:43 pm
Faraway Veluca is OURS!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2012, 10:48:38 pm
JUST 50km?  that's 50,000 meters...which seems like a very long distance....can you say how far it is from one end of NA map to the other?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 10:52:26 pm
JUST 50km?  that's 50,000 meters...which seems like a very long distance....can you say how far it is from one end of NA map to the other?

Probably about 100km when you count the area with fiefs only and no diagonals.

EU is maybe 125km or so.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 10, 2012, 11:13:55 pm
(click to show/hide)

Ninja edited the points system into the changelog
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 10, 2012, 11:17:47 pm
Probably about 100km when you count the area with fiefs only and no diagonals.

EU is maybe 125km or so.

EU map is approx 95x125km
NA map is approx 75x100km

Remember you can border hop though
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kelugarn on September 10, 2012, 11:19:43 pm
No Faraway Fisdnar? The freemen of the north weep, for our home has been taken from us!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 10, 2012, 11:24:13 pm
No Faraway Fisdnar? The freemen of the north weep, for our home has been taken from us!

You can come tend our goats in the steppe if you want? 
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 10, 2012, 11:43:00 pm
EU map is approx 95x125km
NA map is approx 75x100km

I am the best at estimates!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 10, 2012, 11:49:20 pm
EU map is approx 95x125km
NA map is approx 75x100km

Remember you can border hop though

Can you hop any time or will you include some kind of limit, e.g. you can only hop once a day?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Knute on September 11, 2012, 12:07:38 am
Can you hop any time or will you include some kind of limit, e.g. you can only hop once a day?

I think you can walk across any time, the map's just a reflection.

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Teeth on September 11, 2012, 12:38:09 am
Some good changes, might actually give it an individualistic try.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: ArysOakheart on September 11, 2012, 01:21:13 am
Looks like we're going to have some roaming peasants without homes :(
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Matey on September 11, 2012, 01:26:34 am
the bigger tragedy is the lack of a NA TEBANDRA!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 11, 2012, 01:26:51 am
With no need for troop grinding and free upkeep up to 100 men no peasants will feel the need to roam these lands alone, but without a place to lay their head on a silk pillow peasants they will stay, until they conquer themselves a fief.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Turkhammer on September 11, 2012, 01:46:09 am
EU map is approx 95x125km
NA map is approx 75x100km



In the name of equality make Fidsnar part of the NA map!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Muki on September 11, 2012, 02:19:17 am

In memory of Muki, member of KUTT, ruler of Slezkh

yay got my name on the board this time around :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 11, 2012, 03:05:44 am
CONFIRMED NA MAP:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x41/Werg78/NAmap.jpg

EU MAP WILL BE EVERYTHING YOU SEE ON THE NORMAL STRAT MAP

MAPS ARE CONNECTED VIA DESERT AND SNOWY REGIONS


For the record NA has 40% of its fiefs removed to balance NA/EU populations

Can you make that map bigger so we can see the actual fiefs? Bit hard to make them out even when zoomed in.

Also, everything inside the rivers. NO MORE CROSSING RIVERS!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Malaclypse on September 11, 2012, 03:09:21 am
Wow, the entire eastern side of the NA map is desolate. No love for Rhodok and Nord cities. Should throw some in and more or less mark the southern desert as a forbidden zone with mutants.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tom Cruise on September 11, 2012, 03:38:29 am
Strat is getting wiped harder then my asshole after Taco Bell
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: PhantomZero on September 11, 2012, 04:31:28 am
Wow, the entire eastern side of the NA map is desolate. No love for Rhodok and Nord cities. Should throw some in and more or less mark the southern desert as a forbidden zone with mutants.

Leave the dessert alone!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: TurmoilTom on September 11, 2012, 05:22:51 am
Leave the dessert alone!

delicious
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on September 11, 2012, 06:31:25 am
We must build the great wall of America to keep the Europeans out, the will probably try to enter through the desert, there isnt much for them up north.

NO MORE EUROPEAN COLONIALISM.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 11, 2012, 08:48:03 am
desert for Deserters !!!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Zildjan on September 11, 2012, 06:13:54 pm
Sounds awesome.  You know what would take away all the whining about time zones is if the strat map was made smart phone friendly  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Malaclypse on September 11, 2012, 07:05:20 pm
Leave the dessert alone!

25 holdings to be had in the NA desert. Getting rid of 5-10 in favor of adding a bit to the what will otherwise be completely barren coastline wouldn't really hurt the scope of a desert empire!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: bradcub on September 11, 2012, 11:37:56 pm
In memory of Templar_Bradcub, member of Crusader Alliance, ruler of Ayyike!!!!!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: BlindGuy on September 11, 2012, 11:40:05 pm
In memory of Templar_Bradcub, member of Crusader Alliance, ruler of Ayyike!!!!!

<--Beggar Prince
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 11, 2012, 11:40:19 pm
In memory of Deserter_Latviano_The_Hairy member of Deserters  former ruler of sarimish  :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 12, 2012, 02:52:11 am
In memory of Deserter_Latviano_The_Hairy member of Deserters  former ruler of sarimish  :D
sarimish ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 12, 2012, 05:57:55 am
sarimish ?
yes sarimish, even now i sometimes wake up in middle of night all in cold swet and screaming because i see nightmares how sarimish is taken away from me.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 12, 2012, 06:21:52 am
Nothing about nerfed cav?

I better not be able to afford horses this time around.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 12, 2012, 05:35:44 pm
In memory of Deserter_Latviano_The_Hairy member of Deserters  former ruler of sarimish  :D

In memory Deserter_Chris_the_Bro member of Brotherhood/Deserters former, former ruler of Sarimish and nowadays ruler of Reveran!

there you go braaah  :twisted:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 12, 2012, 05:51:05 pm
In memory Deserter_Chris_the_Bro member of Brotherhood/Deserters former, former ruler of Sarimish and nowadays ruler of Reveran!

there you go braaah  :twisted:

Only because we didn't launch the assaults yet, sadly impossible.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 12, 2012, 06:01:32 pm
Only because we didn't launch the assaults yet, sadly impossible.  :twisted:

we were just faster and well timed yeah :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 12, 2012, 06:01:56 pm
What i don't quite get, how is strat influenced now by crpg? the points we grind in crpg what can we spent them on?

Would it be a suitable adjustment that at the point someone takes control over a fief, the equipment he has safed on his main for general use within crpg would reduce the points needed for upgrading for these types of equipment depending on f.e. loom status or :) if he has a Grandmaster Title. You know some small sideeffects which make crpg playing a bit more meaningfull. I just love symbiotic effects in games where one thing improves another.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 12, 2012, 06:04:02 pm
What don't quite get, how is strat influenced now by crpg? the points we grind in crpg what can we spent them on?

Would it be a suitable adjustment that at the point someone takes control over a fief, the equipment he has safed on his main for general use within crpg would reduce the points needed for upgrading for these types of equipment depending on f.e. loom status or :) if he has a Grandmaster Title. You know some small sideeffects which make crpg playing a bit more meaningfull. I just love symbiotic effects in games where one thing improves another.

totally in the same opinion as kinngrimm!
players should get some achievements when they play good and active.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 12, 2012, 08:46:52 pm
The more active you are in c-rpg, the more useful you will be in strategus.  I personally like that they are taking away "all thine hard work" (aka chadztext) and making it independent to strategus fief points.  I think that's going to be a big improvement.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 12, 2012, 08:53:19 pm
The more active you are in c-rpg, the more useful you will be in strategus.  I personally like that they are taking away "all thine hard work" (aka chadztext) and making it independent to strategus fief points.  I think that's going to be a big improvement.

and a big disadvantage to very active players!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Matey on September 12, 2012, 11:04:13 pm
and a big disadvantage to very active players!

is it? i never got chadz text on my main... ever. even after i retired from 33 just after strat 3 came out and worked my way back up. sooo despite how active i was in crpg i could craft no gear at all in strat. quite the advantage i got for being active eh?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: MrPink44 on September 13, 2012, 03:33:33 am
I have to agree leveling the playing field by taking away chadztext will be nice. I hardly ever got that shit meaning it was useless for me to do anything but be a goods whore. Not exactly my idea of fun. With this system it will make it so clans can actually have some independence in what they want their members to do i.e. hey build an army and get ready to attack *fief*. Also the level of control for the fiefs is awesome. I look forward to it Tundra Territories for life!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 13, 2012, 09:45:57 am
You know some small sideeffects which make crpg playing a bit more meaningfull.

Shouldnt it be the other way around? Strat is an addition, a game mode to play great Crpg battles, get renown for your clan and get loads of xp. If you need strat rewards to be motivated to play Crpg you are not playing Crpg for fun anymore, and devs made all these changes just to prevent grinding Crpg for strategus purposes.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Erasmas on September 13, 2012, 12:09:40 pm
Shouldnt it be the other way around? Strat is an addition, a game mode to play great Crpg battles, get renown for your clan and get loads of xp. If you need strat rewards to be motivated to play Crpg you are not playing Crpg for fun anymore, and devs made all these changes just to prevent grinding Crpg for strategus purposes.

That really depends on the point of view of the individual player. From my perspective crpg/strat is a great strategic game and any move to make it better/more interesting to anyone is good. In fact, the connection between crpg and strat based on tick system worries me - as long as I understand that the main purpose is to get rid of the "dead souls", i.e. clan members that do not play crpg but act as farmers, I am afraid that the current system will force me out of strat due to limited time I can spend playing crpg. In other words, the tick system is beneficial to grinders, not really casual players. Until recently I could find my place in the clan despite my limited playtime, will that be the case in Strat 4? We will see....

I agree - if you need strat rewards to be motivated to play Crpg you are not playing Crpg for fun anymore.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 13, 2012, 12:48:25 pm
That really depends on the point of view of the individual player. From my perspective crpg/strat is a great strategic game and any move to make it better/more interesting to anyone is good. In fact, the connection between crpg and strat based on tick system worries me - as long as I understand that the main purpose is to get rid of the "dead souls", i.e. clan members that do not play crpg but act as farmers, I am afraid that the current system will force me out of strat due to limited time I can spend playing crpg. In other words, the tick system is beneficial to grinders, not really casual players. Until recently I could find my place in the clan despite my limited playtime, will that be the case in Strat 4? We will see....

I agree - if you need strat rewards to be motivated to play Crpg you are not playing Crpg for fun anymore.

There is still a place for you.  Anybody can buy goods, make a trade run and therefore make a profit.  Anybody can then turn that profit into an army and take a Fief.  Or they can give it to their clan.

The difference now is that inactive cRPG players will have to actively do something in Strat in order to make a difference. Whereas in the past the inactive cRPG players would just hide in a Fief, protected from the world and grinding goods/troops for their clan forever.

My prediction is that active Strat but inactive cRPG players are going to be worth more than active cRPG but inactive Strat players in Strat 4.  Obviously being active in both is best though which imo is fair enough.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 13, 2012, 12:53:23 pm
There is still a place for you.  Anybody can buy goods, make a trade run and therefore make a profit.  Anybody can then turn that profit into an army and take a Fief.
lol woot. fief can buy only 100 goods by 25g for each... so we will kill anyone around who will try sell it in our village  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 13, 2012, 01:14:43 pm
lol woot. fief can buy only 100 goods by 25g for each... so we will kill anyone around who will try sell it in our village  :P

That is your choice :D

But a sneaky trader will just come to your fief in the night and be away again before you wake up :P

Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 13, 2012, 01:15:23 pm
That is your choice :D

But a sneaky trader will just come to your fief in the night and be away again before you wake up :P

Haven't learned from the past Strateguses that Russians don't sleep?  :o
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: serr on September 13, 2012, 01:16:29 pm
Seems like wataga will have a lot of competitors then :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 13, 2012, 01:46:15 pm
Shouldnt it be the other way around? Strat is an addition, a game mode to play great Crpg battles, get renown for your clan and get loads of xp. If you need strat rewards to be motivated to play Crpg you are not playing Crpg for fun anymore, and devs made all these changes just to prevent grinding Crpg for strategus purposes.
you got me all wrong there. I wasn't saying give me strat bonus to improve my crpg.

My suggestions would be.
1. The default gear saved and used regularly,
would increase the base for production gear. You wouldn't need to upgrade from -3 upwards but start with

-2 -> -1 = 1 point  at 1x loomed item
-1 -> 0 = 1 point
0 -> +1 = 8 points
+1 -> +2 = 16 points
+2 -> +3 = 32 points

-1 -> 0 = 1 point  at 2x loomed item
0 -> +1 = 8 points
+1 -> +2 = 16 points
+2 -> +3 = 32 points


0 -> +1 = 8 points at 3x loomed item
+1 -> +2 = 16 points
+2 -> +3 = 32 points

That only counts in the case you would become fief owner and only to the gear you regularly use would be taken into account.
Then the questions for clans isn't only but still be who is active and able to manage a fief, but who also could provide us faster with better gear.

2. Additionally when a fief is raided, the points wont go below the starting values as described above, so they do loose but the fief is not totally useless till you get back enough points to do stuff.

3. The new Titles when you are high level. I believe one of the reasons those were included as well that you gain some additional looms when you retire is a) to reduce the number of maxed out players b) give those who would like to retire but did find it unfair to retire without getting anything after they invested so much time into leveling the opportunity to do so.
So with that all in mind, why not give another carrot and let that have influence to a small amount onto either the amount or quality of the production cycle. I know for myself then i would strongly consider retiring as the Grandmaster title and some looms are just not worth considering after playing nearly 1 year to the level i am now and will need at least another year to get to 36.
Try perhaps also to see it from the RP aspect. Someone who is a Master in his ways, shouldn't he be able to do stuff better?
So i want a small influence of what we accomplished within crpg reaching out to strat, without additional micromanagement ... keep it small simple.

Besides that, i have to agree with Matey, the message system before was utterly unbalanced. We had a player who managed to get up every item he used within 3 generations. Others didn't get that message over several more generations and those who went for max lvl wouldn't get it at all. So that was BS and i am glad hat devs went away from that and also removed the incredably time consuming micro management with crafting, that in my eyes took out the fun out of the game for lots of people.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 13, 2012, 02:22:32 pm
you got me all wrong there. I wasn't saying give me strat bonus to improve my crpg.


No but you are saying give me rewards in strategus when i play Crpg, or playing Crpg has less meaning. The whole reason of many changes is to prevent that mindset, and remove grinding from Crpg.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 13, 2012, 03:33:11 pm
How exactly will the voting system work? Does one player have to accept votes for a fief or something?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 13, 2012, 04:01:16 pm
How exactly will the voting system work? Does one player have to accept votes for a fief or something?

1) Spawn
2) Click the Voting Tab
3) Pick a player to vote for
4) Pick a Fief to Vote for - your vote strength will be the % next to the Fief name.  The closer you are the better.
5) Click Vote to register your vote.  You can change your vote right up until the last minute.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 13, 2012, 04:17:47 pm
1) Spawn
2) Click the Voting Tab
3) Pick a player to vote for
4) Pick a Fief to Vote for - your vote strength will be the % next to the Fief name.  The closer you are the better.
5) Click Vote to register your vote.  You can change your vote right up until the last minute.

finally a good explanation of that thingy   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 13, 2012, 04:40:14 pm
only 1 vote per player?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 13, 2012, 04:48:31 pm
3) Pick a player to vote for
Does potential lord need to be in the desired fief to be nominated?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 13, 2012, 04:54:31 pm
Does potential lord need to be in the desired fief to be nominated?
thats really good question or lemme ask in another way ; Can we send a member to takeover a fief so after he take ;he will transfer fief to an officer or leader
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 13, 2012, 04:59:25 pm
1) Spawn
2) Click the Voting Tab
3) Pick a player to vote for
4) Pick a Fief to Vote for - your vote strength will be the % next to the Fief name.  The closer you are the better.
5) Click Vote to register your vote.  You can change your vote right up until the last minute.
Thanks, Werfried 2012!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 13, 2012, 05:02:01 pm
No but you are saying give me rewards in strategus when i play Crpg, or playing Crpg has less meaning. The whole reason of many changes is to prevent that mindset, and remove grinding from Crpg.
I didn't say it would have less meaning but to give more meaning to it, there is a fine difference.
Motivation is an awkward thing, you can motivate by 2 basic principles, inflicting pain so someone remembers what not to do or giving insentives so someone remembers, that actually brought something positive.
All games are build upon those as is RL experience.
So giving players additional insentives i do prefer over the whole pain thingy.
That said i come back to symbiotic effects, why shouldn't the one thing you do increase your chances in another?
It is not about someone getting an unfair big advantage but encouraging players to take part in what the devs aimed for all along.
cRPG as base for the actual goal Strategus.(Please devs correct me if that has changed or i did get it wrong somehow)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 13, 2012, 05:28:49 pm
Does potential lord need to be in the desired fief to be nominated?

No - you can vote for anybody anywhere and that players proximity to the fief has no bearing on the vote.  It is only your own position that matters

@Cicero - you can do exactly that if you want
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: tizzango on September 13, 2012, 06:25:29 pm
Motivation is an awkward thing, you can motivate by 2 basic principles, inflicting pain so someone remembers what not to do or giving insentives so someone remembers, that actually brought something positive.

Someone is studying Psychology. Kinngrimm i'm so proud, however the next step is to learn the correct terms!

"Positive and negative reinforcement"

:D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Turboflex on September 13, 2012, 07:26:04 pm
only 1 vote per player?

I believe your vote is double strength if you are inside the fief you vote for.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Bjarky on September 13, 2012, 07:28:39 pm
I believe your vote is double strength if you are inside the fief you vote for.
yeh
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 14, 2012, 12:53:43 am
Actually, "positive" and "negative" reinforcement in conditioning do not refer to whether or not the subject actually likes or dislikes something. I forget what they actually refer to (it's fucking weird), but it's different than rewarding or punishing somebody.

Smarty fucking pants.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: To Kill A Dead Horse on September 15, 2012, 07:32:32 am
How 'bout those without a faction?

And everybody vote for me to get some stupid fief that no one wants.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kalp on September 15, 2012, 11:50:07 am
And if fief will not get any votes, what then ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 15, 2012, 12:42:15 pm
than it will be logical that it goes under my comand( but seriously i dont think that any fief will not get at least 1 vote)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 15, 2012, 01:20:18 pm
Any fiefs that get zero votes will be randomly assigned, but like Latvian said, I think it's kind of unthinkable that that would happen.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tomas on September 15, 2012, 03:15:23 pm
CHANGE LOG ADDITION:

You now "slide" in either x or y direction when you hit a cliff or river.  This makes it harder to get stuck unless you are heading into a total dead end.  Your destination point remains the same whilst sliding.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 15, 2012, 03:55:08 pm
CHANGE LOG ADDITION:

You now "slide" in either x or y direction when you hit a cliff or river.  This makes it harder to get stuck unless you are heading into a total dead end.  Your destination point remains the same whilst sliding.

i like
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Keshian on September 15, 2012, 04:14:39 pm
CHANGE LOG ADDITION:

You now "slide" in either x or y direction when you hit a cliff or river.  This makes it harder to get stuck unless you are heading into a total dead end.  Your destination point remains the same whilst sliding.

I vote for the moonwalk from obstacles.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 15, 2012, 04:34:14 pm
oh now iam got it  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 15, 2012, 05:34:21 pm
CHANGE LOG ADDITION:

You now "slide" in either x or y direction when you hit a cliff or river.  This makes it harder to get stuck unless you are heading into a total dead end.  Your destination point remains the same whilst sliding.
so we got waypoint now or i misunderstood
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Rhekimos on September 15, 2012, 05:43:48 pm
so we got waypoint now or i misunderstood

No waypoints, you rub yourself on rivers and mountains now, instead of just stopping.

Waypoints or pathfinding would have been great, but more difficult to do.

If we can't get those, an option would have been to make those areas very slow to travel through (you had to make a raft to get across that river or you had to mountain-engineer on that mountain and so on).
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 15, 2012, 05:55:34 pm
well its not hard to put 1 or more click to move ; like from dhirrim i ll go to jamiche then bariyye so i ll click jamiche then barriye same goes for field when u click to map its ur first move and it can ask you is it your destination or sth
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Dutchydave on September 16, 2012, 04:32:06 am
so when is the new map coming up and where do you vote for fiefs?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on September 16, 2012, 05:38:21 am
all info in this thread  :wink:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Lordark on September 16, 2012, 06:20:38 am
a vote for me is a vote for me!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Nessaj on September 16, 2012, 10:01:16 am
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 16, 2012, 02:13:05 pm
it's not feature complete:

Update 16.09.2012
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)
9) Towncenter
Whenever you are in a fief, you can put goods into a towncenter for other people to buy. You do this by increasing the selling price over the fief limit. You have a separate tab to view all offers around the world at all times, so you can plan trading routes.
10) looting system has been changed. no more randomness. at the end of a battle, the winner receives all of the goods of the loser. the items that were used receive a penalty of -2 to it's loom level and are distributed 25% to the loser, 50% to the winner.
11) retreating is actually surrendering, all rules of #10 come into effect
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: okiN on September 16, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)

This is the worst idea. Strat ruined.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 16, 2012, 02:28:13 pm
This is the worst idea. Strat ruined.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Arthur_ on September 16, 2012, 02:33:07 pm

Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Lannistark on September 16, 2012, 02:34:15 pm
it's not feature complete:

Update 16.09.2012
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)

Great. Now the bigger factions have even more advtange. Thanks.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Wiltzu on September 16, 2012, 02:44:14 pm
chadz, bad idea.

Now there will be shit load of bandit/minor clans playing and then few extremely large ones--->No large battles--->Bad.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 16, 2012, 02:45:07 pm
it's not feature complete:

Update 16.09.2012
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)
Now, instead of fighting clans at the first sign of danger will throw off everything in the bank, and will wait until the strat end .

10) looting system has been changed. no more randomness. at the end of a battle, the winner receives all of the goods of the loser. the items that were used receive a penalty of -2 to it's loom level and are distributed 25% to the loser, 50% to the winner.
 
100500 grates or random shit with random looms level

11) retreating is actually surrendering, all rules of #10 come into effect
Castle Attack 5K vs 5K, U forgot to buy ladders.....? Давай досвиданья
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Keshian on September 16, 2012, 02:45:34 pm
Great. Now the bigger factions have even more advtange. Thanks.

I don't know??  It seems they have more people so get more gold, but then they also have a lot more people to split the looms with.  Seems a 1 man clan that saves up e.g. 5K gold is the best off as he gets a guaranteed loom or in a drawing with a good chance of getting a loom, whereas a 50 man clan it may get 3-4 looms but have to split it up with 50 people.

Also, can we have 200 looms each or 60-40 split with EU/NA, because the greater number of fiefs in EU territory creating longer trade routes too would highly favor Eu getting more than its fair share of these looms at the end.

Also, how do we log in to Strategus 4 now that its up and running??
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 16, 2012, 02:45:44 pm
This is the worst idea. Strat ruined.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 16, 2012, 02:46:07 pm
it's not feature complete:

Update 16.09.2012
8) Banking / Winning
You can now put strat gold into a banking account. There, it will receive interest of 2% per day. You cannot take money out of the bank account. At the end of this round, there will be (about) 200 looms given out in total. To distribute it, all of the money in the bank will be summed up (eg 1,000,000), then divided by the amount of looms (eg 200). This results in the threshold to be guaranteed a loom (eg 5000). For every 5000 in your bank account, you would get 1 loom. If you don't have exactly 5000, the rest money will be used for a drawing (if you have 6000, you have 1 fixed loom + a 1000/5000, so a 20% chance, to win a loom. Works also for people with less than 5000 in total)

Please do make sure you get 1 loom per player and not 10 looms for one player though..
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Jens_Langkniv on September 16, 2012, 02:47:42 pm
2 things

1. banking system? i dont like it it if i understand correcktly those with alot of money in the banks will also be awarded looms? its a bit like the lottery except those that will get it is only the big clans most likely-

2. and na guys if we moved the time for when this start then most of the strat players non americans will have a slightly worse voting time than you and belive it or not your not the center of the universe so numbers win because thats the fair solution i think if you think about it you agree if you dont well thats your problem
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 16, 2012, 02:48:16 pm
I don't know??  It seems they have more people so get more gold, but then they also have a lot more people to split the looms with.  Seems a 1 man clan that saves up e.g. 5K gold is the best off as he gets a guaranteed loom or in a drawing with a good chance of getting a loom, whereas a 50 man clan it may get 3-4 looms but have to split it up with 50 people.

this is the idea
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 16, 2012, 02:49:53 pm
this is the idea
ie instead of merging into large clans and warfare, you are pushing the players to grind gold?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Wiltzu on September 16, 2012, 02:53:55 pm
[15:50] <+chadz> and then clans will shrink to normal sizes again
[15:50] <+chadz> as i said, working as intended

anti UIF
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 16, 2012, 02:57:27 pm
chadz, bad idea.

Now there will be shit load of bandit/minor clans playing and then few extremely large ones--->No large battles--->Bad.


Thousands of players, 200 looms, i dont see why you want to bandit months of strategus to have a chance on a "free loom".
+, more fiefs = more money (trade), more motivation to conquer fiefs, more battles.

Past strategus a shitload of ppl just grinded in strategus, and bought crpg gold and looms with it. This is a great way to prevent that.

+1 to whoever in the dev-team thought this up.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 16, 2012, 02:59:12 pm
That's 200 looms, for one year, 365 days. 200 players get 1 loom each. not a big deal imo... and who knows if those bigger clans really get those looms? Some maybe, but others as well.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Wiltzu on September 16, 2012, 03:01:27 pm

Thousands of players, 200 looms, i dont see why you want to bandit months of strategus to have a chance on a "free loom".
+, more fiefs = more money (trade), more motivation to conquer fiefs, more battles.

Past strategus a shitload of ppl just grinded in strategus, and bought crpg gold and looms with it. This is a great way to prevent that.

+1 to whoever in the dev-team thought this up.

Trust me there will be ppl who want to be bandits for months just for couple looms
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 03:02:56 pm
[15:50] <+chadz> and then clans will shrink to normal sizes again
[15:50] <+chadz> as i said, working as intended

anti UIF
Nope. There will be UIF controlling both maps & bunch of small grinders who will put all their moneys in the bank :(

We would prefer to kill each over to get xp & fun instead of grinding looms.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Keshian on September 16, 2012, 03:06:50 pm
One hour left.  Will there just be a link posted to access Strategus at that time??
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 16, 2012, 03:07:30 pm
Trust me there will be ppl who want to be bandits for months just for couple looms

Not likely you get multiple looms in your own by simply banditing :P Considering the amount of players and the amount the big clans make with trade etc (for example empire ended with 58.316.041 gold last strat) Only difference now is that you cant craft in fiefs anymore, you have to own one if you want to do so effective.)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 03:14:21 pm
Not likely you get multiple looms in your own by simply banditing :P Considering the amount of players and the amount the big clans make with trade etc (for example empire ended with 58.316.041 gold last strat) Only difference now is that you cant craft in fiefs anymore, you have to own one if you want to do so effective.)
It was not trading, lol. But yes, big clans would have more gold. Just hope that they will not spend it all on banking.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Corsair831 on September 16, 2012, 03:27:38 pm
i'm throwing it out there, but i like the idea of the loom bank.

It gives people something to fight for. If you spend all of your money on battles, you'll get no looms, if you spend none of your money on battles, you'll get no looms, you have to deposit the right amount of money and spend the right amount.

From a strategus bandit point of view, where my entire purpose is raiding caravans and making money, i really do like this idea ... do i put my money into the bank where i can't get it out of, or do i spend it on more troops ? .. etc ..
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 16, 2012, 03:33:57 pm
Those clans who will not bank the gold, will use it for troops and equipment, and will hence have more gold to spend for war. They will dominate the battlefield rather than those who bank 50% of their gold or even anything.
They will fight the battles, take over the fiefs and gain even more gold and especially XP. And that what Strat is for, XP through battles and especially fun.
They can store their gold later one, even share it within their members and probably have more in the end so maybe higher chances to win looms (if the gold amount needed stays at 5k it probably will be possible for anyone, so the only thing this changes is, that 200 looms are given to 200 different players who joined Strategus, nothing more).

what sair said.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HardRice on September 16, 2012, 03:37:27 pm
We would prefer to kill each over to get xp & fun instead of grinding looms.

UIF fighting? Yeah, OKAY.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Thovex on September 16, 2012, 03:45:32 pm
UIF fighting? Yeah, OKAY.

It was already happening at strat 3.0...
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 16, 2012, 03:49:29 pm
Those clans who will not bank the gold, will use it for troops and equipment, and will hence have more gold to spend for war. They will dominate the battlefield rather than those who bank 50% of their gold or even anything.
They will fight the battles, take over the fiefs and gain even more gold and especially XP. And that what Strat is for, XP through battles and especially fun.
They can store their gold later one, even share it within their members and probably have more in the end so maybe higher chances to win looms (if the gold amount needed stays at 5k it probably will be possible for anyone, so the only thing this changes is, that 200 looms are given to 200 different players who joined Strategus, nothing more).

what sair said.

It wont stay at 5k.

There are 200 looms to devide, so its all gold on all banks/200. So if on all bank accounts together there would be... 200 mil gold, then you need 1 mil gold for getting a garantueed loom. if you have 500k, you will have 50% chance to get a loom, if you have 1.5mil you will get 1 guaranteed, and 50% chance on a second one. All depends on the total amount of gold in the end on the banks.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:52:03 pm
8 MINUTES
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 16, 2012, 03:52:21 pm
Why do you encourage people to keep their strat gold instead of spending it for battles ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on September 16, 2012, 03:52:52 pm
UIF fighting? Yeah, OKAY.

Chads probably saw that when 1 powerblock of 500 players work together it would force the rest of the clans to form up if they want any chance at all, killing all diplomacy, and giving smaller clans no chance. Thus he is trying to give smaller clans some fun in strategus, whats wrong with that?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:53:44 pm
7 MINUTES
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:54:27 pm
6 MINUTES
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:55:31 pm
5 MINUTES
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:56:20 pm
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Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:57:09 pm
3
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 16, 2012, 03:57:23 pm
4
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You can edit your messages jfyi.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:58:05 pm
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:58:36 pm
C-C-C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER !
You can edit your messages jfyi.

Never, this is epic
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 03:59:08 pm
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: djavo on September 16, 2012, 03:59:40 pm
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: the real god emperor on September 16, 2012, 04:00:02 pm
GO!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 04:00:15 pm
HF EVERYONE!!!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 16, 2012, 04:12:03 pm
how to see strat factions in the list ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HardRice on September 16, 2012, 04:22:40 pm
It was already happening at strat 3.0...

I'm assuming he meant uif fighting each other.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Teeth on September 16, 2012, 04:30:54 pm
Selling votes, 50k cRPG gold. Get them while they're hot!

http://forum.meleegaming.com/strategus-general-discussion/selling-fief-votes-50k-crpg-gold-vote/
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 04:33:12 pm
I'm assuming he meant uif fighting each other.
Nope. Just friendly battles with a lot of XP.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 16, 2012, 04:46:18 pm
I wasn't able to choose between NA and EU and spawned on NA, yay!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 04:52:27 pm
I wasn't able to choose between NA and EU and spawned on NA, yay!
One of our cd-keys guys has the same problem.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 16, 2012, 04:58:14 pm
One of our cd-keys guys has the same problem.
same happened to one of our member aswell.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 16, 2012, 05:01:20 pm
1 hour: 637 players registered
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Polobow on September 16, 2012, 05:05:17 pm
1 hour: 637 players registered

Give us more stats, how many NA and EU?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Nessaj on September 16, 2012, 05:05:31 pm
Meh, do not like the banking system at all.

Prior to that the best was to just have some land, make some wars, whatever works, now the best is to ally with who ever is the strongest, hold as much land as possible your clan can manage to generate looms, then share those out via a raffle or system.

Bring on the new conglomerate alliances.

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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 16, 2012, 05:06:02 pm
One of our cd-keys guys has the same problem.

I clicked the favorited link of the last strat. This one will automatically put you into NA.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 16, 2012, 05:07:09 pm
I clicked the favorited link of the last strat. This one will automatically put you into NA.

I clicked that one too and went to EU. Have you been on NA area last time you were in strat?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2012, 05:10:51 pm
anyone not part of UIF was on NA
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 16, 2012, 05:11:34 pm
I clicked that one too and went to EU. Have you been on NA area last time you were in strat?
Ismirala/Ismirala Castle, so yeah.

Still not cool that you don't get to chose AT ALL, even though i clicked the NA-link.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 05:13:17 pm
So we still have 11 hours to vote?
14:00 GMT +4 +8 = 02:00 GMT?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 16, 2012, 05:14:57 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Fips on September 16, 2012, 05:15:51 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.

Fips_HRE
William_Marshal_HRE

NA -> EU
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 16, 2012, 05:17:04 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.
Barlas_Bozdag
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Maksgot on September 16, 2012, 05:20:36 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.
Teutonic order:
T_cmd_Wilhelm_Tell
T_rtr_Siegmund_von_Luxemburg
T_hpt_XpbI4
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 05:21:33 pm
Ramon_RS
Druzhina_napaHouk
Chester

Fron NA to EU
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Pejlaen on September 16, 2012, 05:25:51 pm
Ramon_RS
Druzhina_napaHouk
Chester

Fron NA to EU

All 3 same guy?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Olwen on September 16, 2012, 05:26:52 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.

Olwen_Lamhban
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 05:29:39 pm
All 3 same guy?
Vovka's cdkeys. Even Nebun is just a digital puppet.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Nyu on September 16, 2012, 05:30:41 pm
Deserter_Nyu_the_Bro

from NA to EU
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 05:55:19 pm
1 hour: 637 players registered
800 right now! Hooray!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Arrowblood on September 16, 2012, 06:11:14 pm
Merc_Arrowblood to Eu pls.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Teeth on September 16, 2012, 06:26:48 pm
Will the votes just be accepted all at once at the end of the voting phase or as soon as you click vote? I mean, can I click who I want to vote now, then let my character move for 4 hours, and still get the vote bonus for being closer? Or is it just the value that you vote with?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Segd on September 16, 2012, 06:31:23 pm
Will the votes just be accepted all at once at the end of the voting phase or as soon as you click vote?
First is better. Cause in the second case U could:
1)Create a new char
2)Vote
3)Delete char
4)Repeat

5)Dominate :)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 16, 2012, 06:42:15 pm
Merc_Arrowblood to Eu pls.

is already in eu

Will the votes just be accepted all at once at the end of the voting phase or as soon as you click vote? I mean, can I click who I want to vote now, then let my character move for 4 hours, and still get the vote bonus for being closer? Or is it just the value that you vote with?

final position counts, doesnt matter when you vote
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Gardarika_pym on September 16, 2012, 06:59:46 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.
Ramon_RS still on NA, but on another part of map - pls put him on EU part

All 3 same guy?
Nope :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chester on September 16, 2012, 07:00:41 pm
Chester to Eu pls!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Oktar_Babuna on September 16, 2012, 07:01:14 pm
Sigh... for those that had the old strategus link as a bookmark saved:

Tell me your exact name, i'll put you on the EU side.
This only works once.
This only works for those that spawned at the NA side and now want to spawn at the EU side.
i'll do it in 1h30 minutes, not any further after that.

BashiBazouk_Godric
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Perverz on September 16, 2012, 07:05:53 pm
Barabe_Perverz from NA to EU

ty!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 16, 2012, 07:09:48 pm
Barabe_Perverz from NA to EU

ty!

You're in EU. :D
You're directly north of me. Don't forget that the map isn't split up between NA and EU anymore. :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 16, 2012, 07:20:37 pm
i cant move after i spawned at 19:05!!!

please let me move to my holy Bro family  :cry:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: BASNAK on September 16, 2012, 07:21:30 pm
It's 20:00 your time, that you can start moving :p
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 16, 2012, 07:22:21 pm
It's 20:00 your time, that you can start moving :p

im from germany! :O
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 16, 2012, 07:22:44 pm
Dont forget summer time.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 16, 2012, 07:25:13 pm
damn shiiit :D
okay i see
so i have time to vote until 4 in the night?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kalp on September 16, 2012, 07:25:21 pm
i cant move after i spawned at 19:05!!!

please let me move to my holy Bro family  :cry:
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on September 16, 2012, 07:28:14 pm
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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tuetensuppe on September 16, 2012, 08:29:22 pm
hey...
i also checked now that i spawned on NA is it still possible to put me on EU side? would be great...

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Tuetensuppe

thy


greetings
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Knute on September 16, 2012, 08:49:44 pm
This is the worst idea. Strat ruined.

What's wrong with it?  The positives I see are:

1. It might revitalize the strat for crpg gold selling market.  The round could go on for a year for all we know, a lot of gold could be sold in the meantime.
2. Strategus glory > looms that only give you an advantage over new players on regular servers.
3. An incentive for more casual and clanless players to get involved in Strategus.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Beauchamp on September 16, 2012, 08:55:38 pm
and how exactly is new strategus in the end going to be any different from the old ones if the uif won't reform/disband?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: bredeus on September 16, 2012, 08:59:38 pm
Hello old friend.
Well, what we need is another UIF to stand against it ;)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Mannhammer on September 17, 2012, 02:36:28 am
and how exactly is new strategus in the end going to be any different from the old ones if the uif won't reform/disband?

Join the NA side of the map. The ping is worse, but there will be battles
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Blackzilla on September 17, 2012, 03:47:05 am
can't even believe myself that i am agreed with this guy , who the fuck is tomas to give ideas and improve strategus ?
Give me one success of Fallen Bridage ?
Them Down-voting your post in force.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 12:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 17, 2012, 03:53:08 am
Them Down-voting your post in force.
that made me laugh lol.

Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Visconti on September 17, 2012, 04:27:28 am
So did the voting system fuck up, or did this many people not vote? Also, why does it say all these NA fiefs are EU server group?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Cicero on September 17, 2012, 04:34:03 am
voting system fucked up ; we even got peshmi for empire without voting it =)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: PhantomZero on September 17, 2012, 05:02:52 am
Yeah, it says I have won:

Faraway Mit Nun   
Faraway Ayn Assuadi   
Faraway Jameyyed Castle
Faraway Caraf Castle
Faraway Shariz

So I am everything but Jameyyed Castle is still white because of a tie?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 17, 2012, 05:12:35 am
Moderators
To:Druzhina_Vovka
Received:17/09/2012 06:00:25
You have been voted the owner of Faraway Weyyah Castle

Fuck eah! our personal trade colony in New World!!!
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Lordark on September 17, 2012, 05:36:13 am
Insert rage post here *
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: HarunYahya on September 17, 2012, 06:18:52 am
Another strat release , another day to think of what beta testers did during testing period....
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 17, 2012, 06:20:23 am
Another strat release , another day to think of what beta testers did during testing period....
FU! they have a real life! :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: chadz on September 17, 2012, 06:47:19 am
Voting seems to have worked well. The faction thing is just a minor issue. About 40 fiefs were randomly assigned because they didn't have a single vote :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: dodnet on September 17, 2012, 07:39:34 am
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 (http://imgur.com/9CGDv)

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...
/me falls off the chair

Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 17, 2012, 07:43:53 am
Hey Americans!! Free castle for u - Weyyah Castle!! U can pay for that castle pay in gold or blood  :P PM me or nebun  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Polobow on September 17, 2012, 08:03:43 am
Voting seems to have worked well. The faction thing is just a minor issue. About 40 fiefs were randomly assigned because they didn't have a single vote :D
How to know when you have gotten a fief?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: MarktpLatz on September 17, 2012, 08:09:35 am
You get a message. Otherwise, you might notice purple text when you enter a server ;)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: dodnet on September 17, 2012, 08:14:17 am
You get a message. Otherwise, you might notice purple text when you enter a server ;)

I got no message and the purple text is disabled by default IIRC. Nevermind: just checked my alts, there it is enabled.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: MarktpLatz on September 17, 2012, 08:17:37 am
Following
Votes will never be public. At the end, the winners are notified by cRPG message. You will never know how close you missed it ;)

you should have gotten one :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: KingBread on September 17, 2012, 08:31:09 am
:P PM me or nebun  :P

Whats the diffrence ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Vovka on September 17, 2012, 08:36:39 am
Whats the diffrence ?
first more cheerful and the second have better English  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Ronald_Meliossandro on September 17, 2012, 08:39:27 am
johooooooooooo i have a village :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miracle on September 17, 2012, 08:39:58 am
first more cheerful and the second have better English  :P
But I love your English, Vovka.  It's so cute. :)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kelugarn on September 17, 2012, 09:31:24 am
All the fiefs are assigned, either by vote or randomization. But fiefs may still look neutral because factions haven't been reestablished yet so the map isn't covered in pretty colors.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: IR_Kuoin on September 17, 2012, 10:33:08 am
I didn't get a single shit, I already lost all my 100 troops  :|
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kalp on September 17, 2012, 10:57:46 am
Voting seems to have worked well. The faction thing is just a minor issue. About 40 fiefs were randomly assigned because they didn't have a single vote :D
I should voted for myself for Gisim...

Ecorcheur_Linuss don't touch my fishing magazines in da hut  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Siiem on September 17, 2012, 05:36:07 pm
This is the worst idea. Strat ruined.

I concur, looms ruined cRPG and eventually (now) strat.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tovi on September 17, 2012, 05:44:39 pm
Mmmmh, no.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Matey on September 17, 2012, 06:41:34 pm


The full changelog will be released sunday, we wouldn't want to spoil the fun ;)



chadz... Sunday has passed. Where is the change log?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Braeden on September 17, 2012, 06:47:44 pm
It was released Sunday morning into the wild.  Unfortunately, it was immediately captured by changeloggers who turned it into changepaper.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Keshian on September 17, 2012, 09:50:54 pm
So I started discounting equipment based on:

"Equipment discounts apply to individual items, go up in multiples of 5% and cost 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 points per level"

However, it actually goes 1,2,3,5,8 and to get from 20% discount to 25% is 8 points not 5.  Please correct this.  It would be nice to get the 5-6 points back I wasted finding this out, but not a big deal.  Also, you might want to check the equipment improvement selections as well and goods price discounts to make sure they are working properly.


When I posted this issue in strategus issues thread, some idiot moderator locked it within seconds and gave no explanation regarding resolution and same with the second.  Changelog doesn't match game, I think the numbers in game are slightly off since the changelog makes sense going up to 50% discount not 45%.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 18, 2012, 09:44:11 pm
These strategus ticks, can I earn them playing on an alt or do I have to play on my main?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Miwiw on September 18, 2012, 09:50:17 pm
Alts do also count.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tovi on September 18, 2012, 09:53:21 pm
What is it (ticks) ?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on September 18, 2012, 10:18:04 pm
Alts do also count.
Well, I s'pose while I have been playing my alts purely for some time I've also purely been playing duel, which probably explains it...
BTW: After a long while of playing battle on a mostly 1x streak, how does the guy on the other team who got -1/5 as his KD deserve a tick due to being on a multi more than me on 7/5? Generally the multi system is fucked up.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: MarktpLatz on September 18, 2012, 10:30:31 pm
Therefore it will be changed in the future.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 19, 2012, 02:09:12 pm
Voting seems to have worked well. The faction thing is just a minor issue. About 40 fiefs were randomly assigned because they didn't have a single vote :D
love the new distribution system

It was released Sunday morning into the wild.  Unfortunately, it was immediately captured by changeloggers who turned it into changepaper.
:lol:

What is it (ticks) ?
every minute(i believe or even a shorter cycle?), the server updates every order he got by user actions and therefor changes on the map f.e. are shown.

So how exactly do you move from EU to NA and vice versa? just go to the edge of the map?
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: dodnet on September 19, 2012, 03:02:57 pm
So how exactly do you move from EU to NA and vice versa? just go to the edge of the map?

Just select a fief on the NA map and say "enter" (or "attack"  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: kinngrimm on September 20, 2012, 02:34:34 am
Just select a fief on the NA map and say "enter" (or "attack"  :mrgreen:)
well that wasn't doable till i just now found on the top right a link called "viewing EU", when clicked then you switch to NA. There then is a link "viewing NA". I would exchange the names though as when you click on "viewing EU" you would expect you then afterwards would see EU map and vice versa.

The color of the link to switch between both sides needs to be brighter to increase the contrast with the black background. It took me since reset to find that. Not because i didn't look for but it is just though to spot without contrast in colors(Text/Background).
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 03, 2012, 05:51:38 am
Those responsible must be punished?

Look at this:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/strategus-round-4-starting-sunday-1200-cet/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/strategus-round-4-starting-sunday-1200-cet/)
We are not worse than others. It's not fair, you just destroyed faction with his magic wand, work of people [With Many CD Keys] for a long long time.


Easy to top-score when you have help from your alter-egos daughters, sisters, brothers, wives, mothers, students, and dogs  :wink:
I think some factions soiled the meaning or significance of those top scores a bit.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Kafein on November 03, 2012, 12:28:49 pm
Not banning all the cheaters is no reason for not banning some of them first.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on November 03, 2012, 12:35:21 pm
Strategus round 4, starting yesterday.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Latvian on November 03, 2012, 01:33:38 pm
Strategus round 4, starting yesterday.
realy well said
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Tuetensuppe on November 03, 2012, 05:08:32 pm
Strategus round 4, starting yesterday.

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how it was in the past


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how it hopefully will be in the future


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Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 05, 2012, 09:37:09 am
I believe farming troops in the same castle since day 1 is a legit and game-winning tactic.
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Dach on December 17, 2012, 11:59:05 am
FIEF POINTS SYSTEM
- Villages start with 200 Points to spend and gain 1 per day there after
- Castles start with 100 points and gain 5 per day there after
- Towns start with 0 points and gain 7 per day there after
- You can respec your points at any time but it will cost you 50% of your current points and takes 4 days to come into effect
- All Items start at -2
-2 -> -1 = 1 point
-1 -> 0 = 1 point
0 -> +1 = 8 points
+1 -> +2 = 16 points
+2 -> +3 = 32 points
- Equipment discounts apply to individual items, go up in multiples of 5% and cost 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 points per level
- Changing the tax rate of a fief by 1% in either direction costs 5 upgrade points.
- Goods prices start at 15 gold and cost 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 per change in either direction from 15.
- Default fief transactions per day is 200 at a goods price of 15.  These arrive hourly and each transaction can be used to buy or sell 1 good. . At 5 gold per good transactions are increased to 400 per day.  At 25 gold per good transactions are reduced to 100 per day.  This scales linearly in between the values mentioned.  Transactions can be increased by 2 for every 1 PP spent

Fixed  :)
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Haboe on December 17, 2012, 08:16:47 pm
I assume all big factions made one of these themselves, but for the smaller factions PP costs might be a bit of a hassle still.

So let me share my info for the beginners in strat:

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Correct me if there are mistakes there, ut it should all be correct
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2012, 12:29:32 am
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thx haboe

instant saved  :P
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Idzo on March 07, 2013, 07:05:18 pm
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thx haboe

instant saved  :P

Yeah. Haboe is always supporting small factions  :wink:
Title: Re: Strategus Round 4 - Starting Sunday, 16:00 CET
Post by: Butan on March 07, 2013, 07:28:09 pm
I'm not small I'm just comparably not bigger than some :rolleyes: