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Title: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: BlackPanda on June 27, 2017, 09:12:18 pm
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on June 27, 2017, 09:15:00 pm
That's some quality stuff panda, 5/7 perfect score.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2017, 10:43:46 pm
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on June 28, 2017, 03:27:34 am
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Yeah, that dude is terrible!  Takes the fun out of such a lively and genius community!  The main reason I play is because of this demented community.  If not for the retardedness of its players... this mod is not nearly as fun!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on June 28, 2017, 03:58:09 am
Yeah, that dude is terrible!  Takes the fun out of such a lively and genius community!  The main reason I play is because of this demented community.  If not for the retardedness of its players... this mod is not nearly as fun!
apparently your idea of fun is skewed
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on June 28, 2017, 04:33:31 am
apparently your idea of fun is skewed

Yes... yes it is!!!

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sari on June 29, 2017, 05:58:23 am
i witnessed 5 bans in one night from sparvico
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: BlackPanda on June 29, 2017, 07:31:27 am
i witnessed 5 bans in one night from sparvico
you should see prime time
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on June 29, 2017, 07:41:32 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on June 29, 2017, 08:01:49 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 29, 2017, 09:21:15 am
The more power hungry and easily offended you are, the smaller your dick is.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: bensai on June 29, 2017, 09:42:10 am
im a little astounded that my name wasnt on the floor that fucking train was driving on

nigga bans me for calling him a retard after i 1v1 him
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on June 29, 2017, 09:47:19 am
Complaints really ought to be directed at the rules themselves. Even if you managed to get Sparvico de-admin'd, someone else would keep enforcing the "no friend" rule. I'd suggest an open letter to the current head admin(s?) to change the rules on chat abuse, as we really don't need Desire ban spree v2 happening. It's either this, or the admins form a union amongst themselves to change the rule (or just not enforce it). From what I understand, the people in charge have already decided that it has to be enforced, even obviously against the will of the community (and against the best interest of the mod's survival, too).
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Ikarus on June 29, 2017, 11:16:27 am
another day where I´m glad that I´m no admin
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on June 29, 2017, 12:16:12 pm
Complaints really ought to be directed at the rules themselves. Even if you managed to get Sparvico de-admin'd, someone else would keep enforcing the "no friend" rule. I'd suggest an open letter to the current head admin(s?) to change the rules on chat abuse, as we really don't need Desire ban spree v2 happening. It's either this, or the admins form a union amongst themselves to change the rule (or just not enforce it). From what I understand, the people in charge have already decided that it has to be enforced, even obviously against the will of the community (and against the best interest of the mod's survival, too).

More people would play if slurs weren't constantly spammed on the server. If people get banned for doing it, blame their own inability to control what they say lol not the rules or admins.
Also if you get banned for doing something you know is against the rules it's utterly shameful to whine about it, which is what all those babies have been doing.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: njames89 on June 29, 2017, 01:10:27 pm
Wow this passionate plea in defense of free speech has totally changed my opinion on people spamming slurs in chat like they are 10 year olds on xbox live.

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on June 29, 2017, 02:54:08 pm
More people would play if slurs weren't constantly spammed on the server. If people get banned for doing it, blame their own inability to control what they say lol not the rules or admins.
Also if you get banned for doing something you know is against the rules it's utterly shameful to whine about it, which is what all those babies have been doing.

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I'm afraid I find that assertion hard to believe. "New players" are probably at least from Native or NW or something, and probably even worse people than you would find on NA1. Also, non-enforcement of chat rules (word on the street is that's the new policy outside of CN1?) would cause fewer people to break them because it would probably become less fun and controversial for them.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: njames89 on June 29, 2017, 03:08:05 pm
non-enforcement of chat rules (word on the street is that's the new policy outside of CN1?

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on June 29, 2017, 03:13:00 pm
"become less fun and controversial for them." 

wow Im on the internet freedum of speek when i see black people in real life i cross thr street dont ban plz.  my edge is too sharp to handle

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on June 29, 2017, 04:27:27 pm
Hey this thread was memes! What gives!

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on June 29, 2017, 07:27:32 pm
I'm too busy blowing Bill Clinton to read good
That's a really funny meme you did but you need to get yourself some reading comprehension cuckboy

I don't profess to know what exactly goes through the minds of retards I'm just trying to explain to you as best I can the reason people partake in gay, finger-up-ass gags like "friend spam"

Badplayer, the burden of proof is yours when you say "more people would play if slurs weren't constantly spammed on the server." You're making two assumptions, the first being that slurs are constantly spammed on the server, the second that given slur spam; fewer players. Who are these new NA1 players? I guarantee they aren't new to Mount and Blade, if they do exist. Warband has a shitty gutter-dwelling community, granted that cRPG is even more highly concentrated autism, these people are still probably as well inclined towards slurs and slander as any other dumb internet edgelord.

Do you know when slurs are spammed on the server? Once in a blue moon immediately after one guy saying friend or amigo or something gets banned and it becomes a  f u n  a n d  c o n t r o v e r s i a l  game for his mongoloid friends. Consider if you would a different scenario, the original slur slinger says "spic" and nothing happens. In the deafening silence he reflects on his transgression and finds inner peace, never slurring at the Native players again. Sparvico does nothing, the bad man's mongoloid friends do nothing, and the gentle sensibilities of the new players go unmolested.

Wow, what a world, where adults are left well alone to realize their own mistakes. It should be pretty clear at this point that whatever it is you were doing before isn't working (apparently we're still talking about it, after all). Seemed as if you were doing exactly what I'm talking about just a couple days ago so I don't know what you're on about James.

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on June 29, 2017, 07:47:13 pm
Hoe please I read gravity's rainbow while shitting and faping tu ur moms playboy spread from 1953, then shitting on your moms playboy spread and still knowing that someone who uses slurs with no reaction is just going to keep using them, not have some existential come to god moment and dawning reflection of their own self worth.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on June 29, 2017, 07:52:59 pm
That's a really funny meme you did but you need to get yourself some reading comprehension cuckboy

I don't profess to know what exactly goes through the minds of retards I'm just trying to explain to you as best I can the reason people partake in gay, finger-up-ass gags like "friend spam"

Badplayer, the burden of proof is yours when you say "more people would play if slurs weren't constantly spammed on the server." You're making two assumptions, the first being that slurs are constantly spammed on the server, the second that given slur spam; fewer players. Who are these new NA1 players? I guarantee they aren't new to Mount and Blade, if they do exist. Warband has a shitty gutter-dwelling community, granted that cRPG is even more highly concentrated autism, these people are still probably as well inclined towards slurs and slander as any other dumb internet edgelord.

Do you know when slurs are spammed on the server? Once in a blue moon immediately after one guy saying friend or amigo or something gets banned and it becomes a  f u n  a n d  c o n t r o v e r s i a l  game for his mongoloid friends. Consider if you would a different scenario, the original slur slinger says "spic" and nothing happens. In the deafening silence he reflects on his transgression and finds inner peace, never slurring at the Native players again. Sparvico does nothing, the bad man's mongoloid friends do nothing, and the gentle sensibilities of the new players go unmolested.

Wow, what a world, where adults are left well alone to realize their own mistakes. It should be pretty clear at this point that whatever it is you were doing before isn't working (apparently we're still talking about it, after all). Seemed as if you were doing exactly what I'm talking about just a couple days ago so I don't know what you're on about James.

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The community has been way better when the people who spam slurs get muted/banned, and the only people complaining are the people getting in trouble for it. Really makes you think.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on June 29, 2017, 07:55:26 pm
Honestly if an 8 times permabanned dalit such as myself can play for the past few weeks without getting in trouble once, other people have no excuse and are just griefers of the worst calibre- the unfunny kind.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Algarn on June 29, 2017, 08:04:49 pm
Those who're complaining about admins "censoring" their 1A rights forget they're not acting normal, freedom of speech doesn't include being an asshole. New players see toxic players and just leave most of the time, that's one of the reasons I didn't stick with the Merc mod, mostly because it had (and still has) a cancerous community which averages 10 yo at best. I couldn't care less if people say the n word or not, yet I care when those same retards complain they're getting banned for acting retarded. You reap what you sow, don't be an idiot if you don't want a ban. Sure the mod has a low population, but banning trolls is the best way to clean the servers and provide new players a better experience.

tldr : get a fucking grip, don't pour BBQ sauce all over your body and jump into a lion's cage and expect to be alright.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Grytviken on June 29, 2017, 08:09:13 pm
Honestly if an 8 times permabanned dalit such as myself can play for the past few weeks without getting in trouble once, other people have no excuse and are just griefers of the worst calibre- the unfunny kind.

Wow! We're so impressed!

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on June 29, 2017, 08:24:20 pm
Wow! We're so impressed!
over half of your posts read like they're lifted directly from breitbart comment sections. Extremely calm, rational guy here.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Grytviken on June 29, 2017, 08:26:52 pm
Those who're complaining about admins "censoring" their 1A rights forget they're not acting normal, freedom of speech doesn't include being an asshole. New players see toxic players and just leave most of the time, that's one of the reasons I didn't stick with the Merc mod, mostly because it had (and still has) a cancerous community which averages 10 yo at best. I couldn't care less if people say the n word or not, yet I care when those same retards complain they're getting banned for acting retarded. You reap what you sow, don't be an idiot if you don't want a ban. Sure the mod has a low population, but banning trolls is the best way to clean the servers and provide new players a better experience.

tldr : get a fucking grip, don't pour BBQ sauce all over your body and jump into a lion's cage and expect to be alright.

I think you are kidding yourself if you actually believe there are any new players here, and even more delusional if you think they are quitting because someone spammed slurs in chat, they are far more likely to quit because of ranged bundle of stickss like you. I can't think of one online gaming community that isn't full of toxic idiots spamming offensive shit in chat.

Mercs usually has a higher population than crpg, is it because of the superior gameplay? I don't think so.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Bittersteel on June 29, 2017, 08:27:47 pm
freedom of speech doesn't include being an asshole.

lolwat

New players see toxic players and just leave most of the time, that's one of the reasons I didn't stick with the Merc mod, mostly because it had (and still has) a cancerous community which averages 10 yo at best. I couldn't care less if people say the n word or not, yet I care when those same retards complain they're getting banned for acting retarded. You reap what you sow, don't be an idiot if you don't want a ban. Sure the mod has a low population, but banning trolls is the best way to clean the servers and provide new players a better experience.

tldr : get a fucking grip, don't pour BBQ sauce all over your body and jump into a lion's cage and expect to be alright.

Mercenaries EU peak: 150 players
cRPG EU peak: 20 players

great argument bro lmao
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on June 29, 2017, 08:28:33 pm
I was about to tell that communist dicksuck Archicuck that adults are talking but clearly that would have been a mistake. "Really makes you think" are you alluding to my colorful ban record? I know, I'm a bad boy.

I said nothing about the First Amendment and no, guaranteed free speech actually does include being an asshole unless we're talking about libel, slander, or restriction of commerce or daily life (the usual yelling fire shtick). If you'd like to learn more about that please ask the Supreme Court. Real talk, the obsession many people have these days with saying dumbshit things and then making the issue about freedom of speech probably bothers me more than it does you, as I believe it makes a mockery of the God given rights which I hold sacred and is a distraction from actual issues, like cutting taxes and building more bombs.

All I've been saying is that if your goal is server population a more nuanced approach to the perceived problem will do you better. You said that x causes player population loss and that you'd ban as many players as need be until x stops, when from what I've seen on NA1 it's the banning that perpetuates x anyhow. I also said you should begin your reign of terror and start permabanning actual troublemakers, so you really should have calmed down in any case.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on June 29, 2017, 08:32:44 pm
Badplayer just likes to complain about everything. He's one of those people that cried when trump got elected.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on June 29, 2017, 08:33:17 pm
*grinning on deathbed while pondering over your life achievements" ahhh.. the hours spent defending the CSA, the days penning essays about the brand of hoodie trayvon martin was wearing, the time I mocked muslims fleeing a warzone, all the upvotes, all the lols, the time i got banned for typing nig-*sudden jolt w/ insane convulsions muffling screams of agony* NO.. we don't talk about that anymore..
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on June 29, 2017, 08:36:40 pm
really tho what are you talking about

woah motherfucker I hope you didn't just say I was defending the CSA

traitors deserved what Sherman gave them
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on June 29, 2017, 08:37:38 pm
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Algarn on June 29, 2017, 08:53:24 pm
they are far more likely to quit because of ranged bundle of stickss like you.

I won't sleep tonight, stop bullying me dude.

Besides , merc mod still has a shitty community, and I fully admit I don't know what drives these guys to play a shittier version of cRPG mechanically speaking. Yet there's something you guys don't understand, it is that people prefer to chill rather than having to mute the chat because some nerds feel like they want to pick a fight with everyone. While I admit one can rage once in a while, there is a difference between going full retard occasionally and being a cunt constantly. The latter is just too damaging not to be dealt with, and saying "look, they're doing better while having more retards, let's make the experience as toxic as possible" is certainly not a good way to get cRPG back to high levels of players. Note that I'm not talking only about trashtalking, I'm also including people griefing and so on.

It's still quite incredible that common sense is still not that common in 2017.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Grytviken on June 29, 2017, 09:01:37 pm
I won't sleep tonight, stop bullying me dude.

Besides , merc mod still has a shitty community, and I fully admit I don't know what drives these guys to play a shittier version of cRPG mechanically speaking. Yet there's something you guys don't understand, it is that people prefer to chill rather than having to mute the chat because some nerds feel like they want to pick a fight with everyone. While I admit one can rage once in a while, there is a difference between going full retard occasionally and being a cunt constantly. The latter is just too damaging not to be dealt with, and saying "look, they're doing better while having more retards, let's make the experience as toxic as possible" is certainly not a good way to get cRPG back to high levels of players. Note that I'm not talking only about trashtalking, I'm also including people griefing and so on.

It's still quite incredible that common sense is still not that common in 2017.

Well I don't spam stupid shit in chat and rarely look at or use chat at all, it's 2017 I use voice comms so it doesn't bother me, and probably doesn't bother most other people. Mute or kick is fine if they go overboard, banning irreplaceable people that we'll never get back is a bad idea and will only lead to more ppl quitting.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on June 29, 2017, 11:37:26 pm
ha hah haaa adults talking about bans on a video game server  :lol: luckily our admins our governmental employees, just wait till the taco supreme court hears about this.
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on June 30, 2017, 01:09:45 am
Wow this passionate plea in defense of free speech has totally changed my opinion on people spamming slurs in chat like they are 10 year olds on xbox live.

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Calling people "(young age) on xbox live" is not, and will never be an argument. A mute function exists ingame, there is no reason to censor the chat. The only time a ban should be administered is if the chat *actually* gets spammed.
The problem doesn't lie with anyone's self control. The problem lies with the assumption that you can tell others what is and isn't okay to say without repercussions.

"more people would play if there weren't constantly slurs in the chat!"
The vast majority of players don't give a fuck, I'd imagine. There is a vocal minority on one side of the argument, and a vocal minority on the other side of it. In the middle lies the larger cRPG community, who I can't imagine gives a fuck after literal YEARS of being in this community. It's been mentioned that there is not only a mute function in game, but an ability to turn ingame chat off as a whole. Is this the admin's only argument for banning players who use "slurs"? It's not a very good one. It's not based on anything real, it's merely the admins projecting their own (butthurt) feelings on the vast majority of people who play cRPG, to the detriment of the game's playerbase as a whole. Need I remind you that needless admining has actually killed the game in the past? Potty mouths never have, that's for sure.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on June 30, 2017, 01:12:55 am
**  Will proof-read later.  Sorry in a rush.  Forgive any mis-types.  **

Let me lay some real truth down and bring some reason.

Point 1

Let's make this clear... gameplay-trolling and chat-offenses should be looked at as two totally different things.

Gameplay-trolling being delaying, TKing, and general abuse of the game itself.  Chat-offense should be looked at as totally different.

I could easily agree that Gameplay-trolling could discourage new players to sticking around.  Dying early in a round, then having long wait times because someone is delaying could certainly do it.  Getting TK'd or interferred with because players are bro-coding against you.  That'll surely do it.

But chat causing you to not stick around... seriously?  You guys seriously think that?  It's not!

You've got to start looking at gameplay-trolling different than chat-offenses... because it totally is.  Trolling could have reasonable punishments because it could truly steer new players away (if there's actually new players).  Chat simply will not.


Point 2

Honestly if an 8 times permabanned dalit such as myself can play for the past few weeks without getting in trouble once, other people have no excuse and are just griefers of the worst calibre- the unfunny kind.

So you've been perma-banned 8 times?  So obviously you've been a nuisance to this community and mod in the past.  But we are suppose to think you have good ideas and know what's best.

I mean come on!  Not trying to be a dick cause I disagree with you so much.  The facts are facts!  You've been banned 8 times.  Can't have a great head on your shoulders!  Or at least not in the past.


Point 3

NA and EU are different places.  Tired of EU players telling us how NA is suppose to operate.  Just because you Euro dudes can't get your server up and going or populated... don't come ruin our fun.

The States and your Grand Union across the Atlantic consist of much different cultures.  We are the land that spawned Mel Brooks and Blazing Saddles.  Racial humor is a part of our culture.  And sure, this community is way demented with their humor.  But that's part of it's appeal.  The interwebz as a whole is kind of a giant cesspool.  cRPG NA just has some really funny and clever folks swimming in it.

Let NA be NA!


Point 4

With chat abuse not keeping players away.  And I know you can say that's just my opinion.  But here's the deal...

There's not really any new players coming along.  There's just not.  And of that small number... how many do you really think is leaving because of chat?  Seriously?  It's got to be very, very small if any.

Compare that to the number of faithful, old timers that are now getting banned.  That number is surely greater.  So now you are hurting the server population with banning faithful players who actually show up... because somewhere maybe there's a new player that might leave cause of chat.

It just doesn't make sense!


Point 5

And again... new players aren't leaving because of chat.  If they don't stick around... it's because first off... this mod is fucking hard as hell to play.  It has the biggest learning curve of any game I've every played.  It take forever to feel like you're not a total absolute suck player.  I'm not even talking about decent.  Just forever to not totally suck.  The longer to suck less.  The longer to be ok.  The longer to be decent.  And forever long to be good.

That's the sit keeping folks away.  It's not a game for everyone.  And it's not for those that can't take a beating!

So the learning curve is number 1 for keeping folks away.  Number 2 is that there's not great documentation for getting started in the game & website.  Number 3 is likely gameplay-trolling.  Then maybe... just maybe... number 4 is chat.  So it's the least likely to turn new players off.

If it was... then no one would play any game ever!  I mean come on!  This game is not for 12 year olds!  If you think it is... look at my recent post with a survey on age.  One player under 18.  It's a bunch of adults.  Autistic adults yes!  Funny adults yes!  Well at least we're trying to be... but you bunch of cry-baby fun-police are trying to ruin it for us.  I have to be a professional all day at work.  Then be a loving and caring husband and father afterwards.  Which I love doing.  But with all that... I enjoy relaxing in cRPG and laughing to some good ol' demented jokes (whether racial or not).  It's always been part of the fun.


Closing Statement

Let me refer back to myself from another post a few months back.

First off... at this point... racial slurs and all that crazy, terrible, hilarious stuff should be just part of the community.  People in this community say demented stuff.  It's what makes us... us!

Second... what you are suggesting Asheram is actually correct.  It's an admin using good judgement and doing their job properly.  But that doesn't happen.  And no one is policing when that happens.

So my solution to that is... strip any Admin of rights if they ban for chat.  That way there's no judgement call to be made.


Folks getting banned for saying someone is ugly... Jeezzz!!!  I've asked whether you'd rather have sex with Jessica Simpson or 12 year old Asian boy.  To which everyone replied "definitely Asian boy".  Some said "make it 2 Asian boys" and I'm in.  Others talked about how Jessica Simpson is now fat while 12 year old Asians are lean and strong (but not too strong).

You get my drift.  Terrible!  But the ridiculousness of it all... the pure retard of it all... it's what makes the community wonderful.


For the record... I'd want neither... I'd chose to just watch 12 year old Asian boy & Jessica Simpson be together.


See what I mean!  THIS IS CRPG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Algarn on June 30, 2017, 01:30:05 am

You need to draw a line somewhere, there is a difference between dark humor (which I'm laughing at rather often), and being openly a flaming dickhead.  Because what you've been mentioning is mostly dark humor to my eyes, and not insults directed to someone in particular or something similar. My guess is that you can have a discussion with the guys who make the rules, and see where it goes from there.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 30, 2017, 01:46:25 am
really tho what are you talking about

woah motherfucker I hope you didn't just say I was defending the CSA

traitors deserved what Sherman gave them

oh fuck I can't wait until sandy sees this
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on June 30, 2017, 02:13:39 am
oh fuck I can't wait until sandy sees this

jokes on you my eyes are closed

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i may be on a real american civil war kick lately, but honestly (and gay to say) i think that "arguing" about it in a way like that does a modest disservice to the memory of the fighting men and officers that slaughtered one another wholesale in the most brutal of ways, stacking up casualty rates rarely seen before or since, with some regiments not making it out of battle with a single private unhit.

FOR WESTWOOD'S EYES ONLY:
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Grytviken on June 30, 2017, 02:18:57 am
jokes on you my eyes are closed

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i may be on a real american civil war kick lately, but honestly (and gay to say) i think that "arguing" about it in a way like that does a modest disservice to the memory of the fighting men and officers that slaughtered one another wholesale in the most brutal of ways, stacking up casualty rates rarely seen before or since, with some regiments not making it out of battle with a single private unhit.

FOR WESTWOOD'S EYES ONLY:
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Who bought all that slave plantation cotton for their abusive child labour textile mills? Surely it couldn't have been the freedom loving yankees  :lol:
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Kadeth on June 30, 2017, 03:16:28 am
It's been mentioned that there is not only a mute function in game, but an ability to turn ingame chat off as a whole.

It's an important point IMO. I remember muting a few of the real cancerous chat spammers on the Aussie native servers, and years later I realised that I had totally forgotten that they were even chat spammers and still muted, it was literally like it never happened! It really wasn't an inconvenience to mute them. I think dealing with intentional TKers and delayers is what admins should be focusing on, the stuff that really effects gameplay that regular players can't stop themselves.

I'm not saying I think It's cool to call people niggaz or whatever, as I'm not 'murican I don't fully understand the impact of the word, just saying people should be aware that they don't have to hear/read it if they don't want to. You have the FREEDOM to mute whoever you want and only listen to your buds  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: zottlmarsch on June 30, 2017, 05:07:48 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on June 30, 2017, 05:38:46 am
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And you love it!!!  :P
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on June 30, 2017, 05:39:11 am
It's an important point IMO. I remember muting a few of the real cancerous chat spammers on the Aussie native servers, and years later I realised that I had totally forgotten that they were even chat spammers and still muted, it was literally like it never happened! It really wasn't an inconvenience to mute them. I think dealing with intentional TKers and delayers is what admins should be focusing on, the stuff that really effects gameplay that regular players can't stop themselves.

I'm not saying I think It's cool to call people niggaz or whatever, as I'm not 'murican I don't fully understand the impact of the word, just saying people should be aware that they don't have to hear/read it if they don't want to. You have the FREEDOM to mute whoever you want and only listen to your buds  :mrgreen:

Couldn't agree more with Kadeth here!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: BlackPanda on June 30, 2017, 07:37:17 am
Takes a good meme to spark the community to finally talk about it  8-)
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on June 30, 2017, 09:37:15 am
FOR WESTWOOD'S EYES ONLY:
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MORE traitor LIES

oh my, what an autocorrect

FOR SANDERSSON'S EYES ONLY:
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on July 01, 2017, 02:08:07 am
MORE traitor LIES

oh my, what an autocorrect

FOR SANDERSSON'S EYES ONLY:
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Frisitans, being part of a warrior order not much unlike the Spartans of old, enjoy getting each other hot and bothered to keep the blood flowing.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Yuang on July 01, 2017, 03:59:46 am
The difference between both culture and law leads to different situations in different regions. Private possession of firearms is legal in the United States, but this is a felony until the death penalty in China. Freedom of speech is common in democracies, but it doesn't work here, and certain topics are officially banned. Twitter and Youtube, the most active web site in the world, are banned in China.

However, even in the US, it is illegal to use firearms for intentional wounding. Similarly, hurtful remarks are forbidden. Including racial discrimination, national discrimination, personal attacks and so on. Besides, trolls are disgusting.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 01, 2017, 07:21:45 am
What??? YouTube is banned in china????
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 01, 2017, 09:42:59 am
However, even in the US, it is illegal to use firearms for intentional wounding. Similarly, hurtful remarks are forbidden. Including racial discrimination, national discrimination, personal attacks and so on. Besides, trolls are disgusting.
This may be a language issue, but it is indeed legal to use firearms for intentional wounding in cases of self defense. Hurtful remarks and personal attacks are also generally alright.

It's also not entirely accurate to say that private possession of firearms is legal, it's a bit different from what you might think of as "legal," which I imagine is something like your government allowing you to do things. In America this is considered a right common to all mankind in a state of nature, and is inalienable; it cannot be given up or otherwise infringed upon and exists despite rather than because of government. So you can think of that as a kind of super legality perhaps. I'm nitpicking, but I believe this is an important distinction which I hope you find interesting.

I will give you that trolls are disgusting yes.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on July 01, 2017, 09:58:38 am
Besides, trolls are disgusting.

I will give you that trolls are disgusting yes.
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The fuck did you say about me?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 01, 2017, 06:58:30 pm
lol fuck off badplayer this is educational and I said trolls r bad what do you want? You don't like facts?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on July 01, 2017, 07:03:56 pm
lol fuck off badplayer this is educational and I said trolls r bad what do you want? You don't like facts?

Ahhhhh, the classic Kesh post complaining about downvotes. Very nostalgic.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 01, 2017, 07:07:45 pm
You are a strange little man.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on July 01, 2017, 11:12:57 pm
The difference between both culture and law leads to different situations in different regions. Private possession of firearms is legal in the United States, but this is a felony until the death penalty in China. Freedom of speech is common in democracies, but it doesn't work here, and certain topics are officially banned. Twitter and Youtube, the most active web site in the world, are banned in China.

However, even in the US, it is illegal to use firearms for intentional wounding. Similarly, hurtful remarks are forbidden. Including racial discrimination, national discrimination, personal attacks and so on. Besides, trolls are disgusting.

Hurtful remarks are not forbidden in the US, commie. Racial discrimination is also not possible in cRPG, no admins are going to be banning players for being black. Trolls are only disgusting when they get in the way of gameplay.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Yuang on July 02, 2017, 03:26:24 am
Hurtful remarks are not forbidden in the US, commie. Racial discrimination is also not possible in cRPG, no admins are going to be banning players for being black. Trolls are only disgusting when they get in the way of gameplay.

Yes, hurtful remarks are not prohibited in the law, but are you going to hurt people intentionally? It is normal for a bad man, but for ordinary people, it is the most basic morality. The Communist Party was banned from public discussion in China. You know, or you don't understand. About trolls, you're right.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on July 02, 2017, 04:49:28 am
It's interesting that BADPLAYER, the man who admits to being banned 8 times (also cheated in Strategus for years) is giving the above post a +1. Why is this mongoloid trying to act like some kind of moral authority now? Truth is, this is his new way of griefing the cRPG community: Going against their wishes for the sake of it.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Shik on July 02, 2017, 05:14:19 am
griefing a bunch of nerds in a video game is a lot better than being a shitty bigoted person on the moral scale
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on July 02, 2017, 05:17:30 am
griefing a bunch of nerds in a video game is a lot better than being a shitty bigoted person on the moral scale

When your personality is so intertwined with a video game that a 1 hour ban becomes solitary confinement to your bedroom and excessive rage posting it's probably the same for them. I don't think these people still retain the base human emotions of empathy, compassion and reason. Pity these machine men with machine hearts and machine minds.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on July 02, 2017, 06:13:01 am
griefing a bunch of nerds in a video game is a lot better than being a shitty bigoted person on the moral scale

Interesting that the guy who gave badplayer all the access to fuck everything up and cheat hardcore is now posting in his defense the second someone calls him out....... makes ya think  :| :| :|
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Rando on July 02, 2017, 06:27:16 am
griefing a bunch of nerds in a video game is a lot better than being a shitty bigoted person on the moral scale

Being against censorship makes you a shitty bigoted person on the moral scale? Really makes you think.

By the way, you're working against your own logic. You can grief "a bunch of nerds in a video game" in a bigoted way but not mean it, just for the grief. Would that be okay, or does griefing suddenly stop being okay when you use no-no words? I reckon anyone would rather be called "friend" than be cheated against in Strat.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on July 02, 2017, 07:33:11 am
Interesting that the guy who gave badplayer all the access to fuck everything up and cheat hardcore is now posting in his defense the second someone calls him out....... makes ya think  :| :| :|

I did all that myself :wink:
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on July 02, 2017, 07:33:59 am

Being racist isn't griefing. It's being a piece of human garbage. Griefing human garbage is a benefit to society. The fact that you think people would rather be called slurs than be griefed in Strategus reveals your small minded privileged viewpoint lol.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 02, 2017, 07:47:59 am
The fact that you think people would rather be called slurs than be griefed in Strategus reveals your small minded privileged viewpoint lol.

Are you a fucking retard?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 02, 2017, 12:00:11 pm
Are you a fucking retard?

don't blame him, he's under watchful eyes at all times. might even be in the Londonistan jurisdiction, where I believe failure to champion any minority (or classified as discriminated) group is penalized by a hefty fine and potential jail time.

you know, its like that good samaritan law in the last episode of seinfeld.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 02, 2017, 01:17:23 pm
Being racist isn't griefing. It's being a piece of human garbage. Griefing human garbage is a benefit to society. The fact that you think people would rather be called slurs than be griefed in Strategus reveals your small minded privileged viewpoint lol.

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My God, how inspring. With mere strokes of his keys Badplayer has rung the death knell of racial bigotry. All undo and unjust discrimination in this world will now come to an end due to his brave efforts trolling those who troll in this bellwether of racial tensions and public opinion, cRPG. What will come next? Maybe sucker punching people with stylish haircuts? Who can tell, but we all know that the titan of progress, Badplayer, marches on to the next injustice.

You do realize I was trying to help you, right? My argument was what's the best way to end x not "hey I love typing friend you can't take that from me lol"

Real talk though my dude I think you should seek help with your reading comprehension problem, and for your heathen liberal mind disease.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: zottlmarsch on July 02, 2017, 11:19:38 pm
lol, thanks for the new sig.  :D
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Shik on July 03, 2017, 12:58:56 am
Interesting that the guy who gave badplayer all the access to fuck everything up and cheat hardcore is now posting in his defense the second someone calls him out....... makes ya think  :| :| :|

wrong, I didn't do shit lmao. Nice to throw out unsubstantiated accusations though!
why are you an admin again?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Yeldur on July 03, 2017, 01:25:01 am
as a free americnan i fought in vitet nayem for this SHITYE we cal lfre33 spOOCH, and iL FBE Hot diGGITY doG Dammmnded if som faaaagut niggggggggggggggggggggggger admin is gunna take that sh0t awayh


yeeeeeeeeee haw


- every american man, 1967, colourised
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 03, 2017, 05:36:21 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Kadeth on July 03, 2017, 05:47:17 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 03, 2017, 07:10:00 am
wow so u get muted if you don't agree

might as well move to china

they have yuang at least
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 03, 2017, 08:41:41 am
Those who're complaining about admins "censoring" their 1A rights forget they're not acting normal, freedom of speech doesn't include being an asshole.

This is not just for Algarn, but for anyone who thinks (especially in the US) that "freedom of speech doesn't include being an asshole."

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The entire point of this amendment is to protect ALL forms of speech, and that includes derogatory words such as "my old friend got", "friend", etc. No, the Bill of Rights wasn't ratified to protect these specific words so people could be bigoted assholes. It was so that if someone's opinions were that of the minority, they would be free from governmental persecution when expressing those beliefs (e.g. if you were a Chinese Democratic protester in 1989, you would probably want your government to uphold this right). No matter how you may want to try and spin it, the US Constitution's First Amendment protects ALL SPEECH EQUALLY, regardless of whether it is cheerful or hurtful. This is so that the free society of the US can openly critique their government without fear of being silenced.

Yes. That does mean people will say bad words and do it because they have the right to do so. It's a part of life, grow up and deal with it. I would rather have some asshole say rude shit than be legally shot in Tiananmen Square for protesting the evils of communism. Even if hate speech is banned in your country, people will still use it, sorry that you can't escape the evils of this world.

Now, I'm going to guess that your best argument against the 1A and free speech is that "hate speech is NOT free speech and is therefore not protected." Well, if my last few sentences above haven't convinced you, then sadly, I cannot fight your delusion for you.

           Let's say that you believe that video games such as Grand Theft Auto promote violence and sexist ideologies against women considering the game allows you to "objectify" women and additionally kill
           them (google Anita Sarkeesian). Therefore, the people who produced the game are bigoted and are encouraging misogyny because their entertainment platform allows players to partake in such horrendous actions in a joyful,
           rewarding manner. If we consider this video game to be of an artistic nature and the dialogue contained in it a part of speech, we can therefore label the game and its contents as "hate speech." If
           these opinions were vastly favored among the majority and hate speech was not protected, you could expect a ban on the game and legal repercussions on the development team.

I beg the question: who gets to define what is and is not hate speech? Of course well all know the givens. Is GTA hate speech? My point is all of these things are subjective, and if hate speech were not considered part of free speech in general, the tyrannical majority would silence the minority.

Also: cRPG chat isn't protected legally by the US Constitution, so if you want to practice civil disobedience by spamming racial epithets in chat, you can expect a ban. My personal opinion is that you should be able to type whatever the hell you want considering there is a mute button, but people who have names that are offensive should be forced to change them. Free chat, but restrict names is my ideal compromise.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on July 03, 2017, 10:45:07 am
It does protect all speech equally, but the key point that we need to realize is that it only protects it from government censorship and interference. Additionally there is a bit of dispute even in regards to that. The FCC, for example, utilizes censorship of private media companies and the press. The key thing there, imo, is that it's specific offensive words that are not allowed, but general offensive sentiment is fine. Obviously that's not quite the case here in cRPG as specific offensive words aren't allowed, nor is the general offensive sentiment behind said words. Then again this isn't a democracy. 
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Kadeth on July 03, 2017, 11:17:39 am
congratulations on 1000 renown thryn, you deserve it champ
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: banned123 on July 03, 2017, 02:03:56 pm

There are a ton of things you would be arrested for saying in america, it just so happens it's mostly only when you're a minority and direct things at the privileged ruling class because the USA is almost as much a capitalist hellhole as China is (which isn't Communist anymore other than in name).

Nice bringing up Anita Sarkeesian also, the person who only makes the most tame, basic of "Feminism 101" videos that STILL sensitive white men cry about. She's completely right about the GTA games normalising and promoting violence and encouraging misogyny(as do MANY forms of media fwiw), she doesn't suggest banning the games, it's very valid critiquing of the developers.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Telford on July 03, 2017, 04:02:30 pm
Chinese people get Everyone is* butthurt too easy and EU is still dead.


*correction.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 03, 2017, 04:26:22 pm
TL:DR Panda made a sick gif that coincided with westwood getting banned from the Chinese server for supporting Taiwan, the results been a nice little shit storm

Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: zottlmarsch on July 03, 2017, 05:35:54 pm
So, I see the forum's been busy the last week or so.

Anyone with a summary?

mod is dead
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on July 03, 2017, 06:15:40 pm
Daily reminder that Taiwan is real china.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 03, 2017, 07:49:46 pm
There are a ton of things you would be arrested for saying in america, it just so happens it's mostly only when you're a minority and direct things at the privileged ruling class because the USA is almost as much a capitalist hellhole as China is (which isn't Communist anymore other than in name).

Nice bringing up Anita Sarkeesian also, the person who only makes the most tame, basic of "Feminism 101" videos that STILL sensitive white men cry about. She's completely right about the GTA games normalising and promoting violence and encouraging misogyny(as do MANY forms of media fwiw), she doesn't suggest banning the games, it's very valid critiquing of the developers.

confirmed troll
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Simon. on July 03, 2017, 07:52:26 pm
hey badplayer do you actually believe all those bullshit antifa talking points you're spewing or is it just to get the admins to lick ur asshole
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Simon. on July 03, 2017, 08:23:12 pm
i'm also glad to see anyone who opposes your liberal ideology of defending all minorities against non-existent hate speech gets muted for literally trying to explain their point in a civil manner



Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Seadle on July 03, 2017, 08:54:40 pm
Typical night on NA. 
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Where was the big, bad, SJWplayer to stop this from happening?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 03, 2017, 09:44:58 pm
she is busy derailing this thread

nsfw
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 03, 2017, 09:51:23 pm
thats nsfa
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 03, 2017, 09:56:38 pm
dont worry he won't get muted for that
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 03, 2017, 10:06:29 pm
if it hurts your feelings thryn I will delete it for u and never post chubbies again.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 03, 2017, 10:08:29 pm
what if it hurt my eyeballs?
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Simon. on July 03, 2017, 10:09:19 pm
i bet she got a tight bussi
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 03, 2017, 10:26:54 pm
Eyeballs will not be covered under the new liberal directorate, only feelings. 
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 03, 2017, 11:23:03 pm
dont worry he won't get muted for that
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 04, 2017, 01:07:24 am
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yeah now u cant make sick memes about us being muted anymore

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 04, 2017, 01:34:43 am
yeah now u cant make sick memes about us being muted anymore

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 04, 2017, 01:49:48 am
hey u cut that out
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 04, 2017, 02:56:32 am
hey u cut that out
sry thats me when you enter game
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Kadeth on July 04, 2017, 03:08:21 am
As an Australian and therefore a minority around here, I can relate to what badplayer is saying (you white Americans just wouldn't understand). For example, I was made an admin purely to be the token Australian guy, and I'm regularly told to put shrimps on the barbie. Kangaroo-friend, prison islander, I've heard them all. It's time to stop.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 04, 2017, 03:56:04 am
As an Australian and therefore a minority around here, I can relate to what badplayer is saying (you white Americans just wouldn't understand). For example, I was made an admin purely to be the token Australian guy, and I'm regularly told to put shrimps on the barbie. Kangaroo-friend, prison islander, I've heard them all. It's time to stop.

i ain't no 'straya sympathizer
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 04, 2017, 04:09:15 am
Australian
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: njames89 on July 04, 2017, 01:15:48 pm
the wallabies r shit go all blacks
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 04, 2017, 09:17:16 pm
The FCC, for example, is an inherently unconstitutional creation of the executive branch, far over-reaching the intent of our founding fathers and should be justly eliminated

wow sparvico, thats a really good point! upboated!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 04, 2017, 10:04:35 pm
That gave me a stiffy.

Down with the admin state yo
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 04, 2017, 10:15:18 pm
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Saxton on July 04, 2017, 10:56:17 pm
Hey sparvmy old friend.

Fuck you.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 04, 2017, 11:02:54 pm
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Jacaroma on July 04, 2017, 11:17:10 pm
the wallabies r shit go all blacks
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Sparvico on July 05, 2017, 07:29:20 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 07:58:22 am
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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on July 05, 2017, 10:27:13 pm
Damn!  I go out of town... and this thread blows up even more!

So apparently I was muted on the forum along with a bunch of other folks in this thread... just because we had a different view point.  But from what I'm hearing and gathering... it was someone using Jacko's account and doing this outside the will of the admins/devs.  And the admin/devs seeing this... have overturned our mute-ban.  Is that about correct?

Anyways... glad that commonsense prevailed.  I hope they get to the bottom of it all... and find out who actually muted us.

I would have lost my shit if I was muted on the forum for just sharing my opinion... and mute-banned for "Racism" even though none of my post has any derogatory language... just trying to defend a view point among many cRPG-ers.  Glad I was out of town and didn't have to lose my shit!  I've never been banned in game or the forums (in over 5 years of playing).  Because while I may have strong view points... I namely try to stay civil.  Which myself and many of us (that were banned) did so in this thread.  Yet we were still banned.  That's pretty fucked up!

Again... thanks to devs/admins that corrected this!  And again... hope they catch the bastard that banned us and give out a punishment!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 10:35:30 pm
They should give that guy who caught the muter a medal.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on July 05, 2017, 10:47:46 pm
They should give that guy a medal.

Come on Asheram... you've been here too long to believe that crap.  For folks to just share their opinion.  There's been no racial rants given in this thread.  Just folks defending their right to say anything (even racist language) in the chat.  Folks that agree and disagree should be respected if they do so in a civil manner.

This type of mute-ban is ridiculous... and lacks civility!
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 10:56:33 pm
Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Drunken_sailor on July 05, 2017, 11:03:51 pm
divided and conquered

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was it you Asheram?  Do you deserve a medal? 
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 05, 2017, 11:07:52 pm
I wasn't defending anyone saying anything myself, I just thought a different approach to the problem at hand would garner the result desired by the admin team. The obvious culprit has probably already fled to North Korea (give them to us, Yuang, or Nikki Haley will roast  刘结一 again) or Iran, his two favorite places in the world.

Mr. Asheram I'm afraid the First Amendment does keep an individual or group free from government censure for "spew[ing] racial slurs and derogatory statements." Your statement is incorrect.

You are welcome to question the relevance of that to cRPG and this (admittedly now moot) discussion, but not the content of 1A itself as laid out in the Constitution and reinforced through 229 years of Supreme Court case law.

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 11:16:12 pm
So Westwood you should go find the biggest black guy in your area and practice your free speech and right to spew racial slurs at him. Film it for us too.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Thryn on July 05, 2017, 11:22:47 pm
Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.

sorry, 1st amendment protects all speech, hateful or cheerful, i made a huge post on it

you can debate whether or not the government infringes on those rights (which they do)

Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 05, 2017, 11:33:38 pm
So Westwood you should go find the biggest black guy in your area and practice your free speech and right to spew racial slurs at him. Film it for us too.
Try reading my previous post again and make special note of the words "government censure"

Here's the text of the first amendment for you:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The parts you should focus your minute mental energy on are in bold.

The American government cannot see that I just called you a "friend" and legally punish me. Now, why would I call you a "friend" ? That is the question. Do you think I'm an asshole? I have no reason to refer to anyone in ways contrary to social norms. I've said that plenty of times in plenty of ways, the fault is yours at this point.

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Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 11:49:46 pm
"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution generally prohibits government regulation of speech, even when the speaker’s opinions are reprehensible to the general public. The First Amendment does not, however, protect all speech. It does not, for example, protect speech that leads to illegal activity and/or imminent violence, obscenity, defamation, and libel.

The First Amendment also does not protect speakers from liability for the foreseeable consequences of their speech. In cases where speakers encourage their audience to commit certain illegal or inherently dangerous acts, liability may rest with speakers and the forums that they use. "
https://www.maldef.org/truthinimmigration/does_the_first_amendment_protect3182008/index.html
I guess you are right, have at it then but at least have the balls to say it to someone's face and not just an anonymous format.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Mallets on July 05, 2017, 11:49:54 pm
Sorry but I don't think that first amendment rights include the right to spew racial slurs and derogatory statements.

I'm not talking about that.  You said that the guy that muted a dozen folks or so for simply sharing their opinion in this thread should be given a medal.

Whether racial slurs should be allowed or not (which now they are not allowed)... is beside the point.  The point being... should an admin have muted all of us for simply sharing our thoughts on chat rules!

You really think we should have been muted for our opinion?  Again, I'm not saying muted for using a racial slur.  We did not do so.  They were muted for simply sharing an opinion and view point.

Then why are you not muted for your opinion?  What makes your opinion any different.  Sure, you are on a different side of the fence on the topic.  But are post used the same civility as folks on the other side of the fence.  We just wanted a different goal.  But our post were made in a proper manner.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Asheram on July 05, 2017, 11:54:49 pm
I am sorry I was just trying to get my infamy up some.
Title: Re: sparvico's day in the office
Post by: Westwood on July 05, 2017, 11:59:04 pm
I guess you are right, have at it then but at least have the balls to say it to someone's face and not just an anonymous format.
I'm a good Christian dude I don't care for vulgarity pal.