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How well did you like the beta? (1 worst, 5 best)

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8 (14%)
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9 (15.8%)
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14 (24.6%)
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Voting closed: May 05, 2012, 09:46:27 am

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2012, 11:17:12 am »
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The weapon skills are a minus, just 5 to live with.

Weapon swap.

Plus if you are elementalist you have 20 abilities with 1 weapon

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2012, 11:22:51 am »
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Weapon swap.

Plus if you are elementalist you have 20 abilities with 1 weapon

Yeah, it's 5 skills per weapon per element right? That's a load of skills to be honest.

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2012, 04:54:58 pm »
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Weapon swap.

Plus if you are elementalist you have 20 abilities with 1 weapon

Yeah, i know. But who's gonna change their weapons alot in PvP? "Oh, my dual pistols are out of range, let me get my rifle. *5 seconds later* Alright, they're in my range again, let's switch back."

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2012, 06:27:01 pm »
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Yeah, i know. But who's gonna change their weapons alot in PvP? "Oh, my dual pistols are out of range, let me get my rifle. *5 seconds later* Alright, they're in my range again, let's switch back."

Uh I think that's exactly how good players will use it.

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2012, 08:54:49 pm »
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Yeah, i know. But who's gonna change their weapons alot in PvP? "Oh, my dual pistols are out of range, let me get my rifle. *5 seconds later* Alright, they're in my range again, let's switch back."

"Weapon swap" in GW2 terms means you equip two sets of weapons and you have a button to swap between them instantly.

Really if you aren't swapping weapons in battle, you're probably doing something wrong.

Elementalist and engineers don't get weapon swaps but get some different mechanics that actually gives them more options.
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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2012, 09:02:30 pm »
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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2012, 09:06:09 pm »
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"Weapon swap" in GW2 terms means you equip two sets of weapons and you have a button to swap between them instantly.

Really if you aren't swapping weapons in battle, you're probably doing something wrong.

Elementalist and engineers don't get weapon swaps but get some different mechanics that actually gives them more options.

I guess that's the reason why i failed then.

Also, yeah, we get alot of mechanics.

F.e. we get an 'aid kit' as healing option (number 6.), which gives us 3 times a skill of dropping a bandage, 1 skill that cures ailments, and 1 that is a more powerfull heal, and cures ailments. However, you can't use your main weapon then.


By the way, do the warrior and guardian have a higher survivability in PvP than other classes? Maybe i should choose those for easier PvP?

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2012, 10:08:56 pm »
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Yeah, i know. But who's gonna change their weapons alot in PvP? "Oh, my dual pistols are out of range, let me get my rifle. *5 seconds later* Alright, they're in my range again, let's switch back."

I haven't gotten around to the PvP yet, but I do weapon swaps in PvE on my mesmer. The staff I have is long range with some skills that have a considerable recharge (the AOE chaos field or whatever). The sword pair is melee. So I could use a bunch of the staff skills, then go in with the swords and soak up a bit of damage for the group and make my heal useful. It seems a lot more effective to use all those skills available, rather than just sticking with one if the range is appropriate.

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2012, 10:46:38 pm »
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Saw a video of a thief swapping between shortbow and daggers.  Apparently one of the shortbow abilities will teleport you to wherever the arrow hits.  So he'd shoot the bow at someone, which would teleport him there, then he'd switch to daggers and slice them up.

As engineer you can do things like switch to the flamethrower kit, drop a firewall, then switch back to your pistols or rifle and shoot through your own firewall to add fire damage to your bullets.  Or you could use dual pistols to drop a sticky glue and then switch to the bomb kit to bomb people.  Or maybe use the grenade kit to freeze people, then the bomb kit to blow them up...

Anyway, there's a lot of combos that are meant to be for two people to work together with for maximum effect, but weapon swapping gives you some combo abilities that you can do on your own.


It's interesting because I think the goal is "easy to learn, difficult to master".  You don't HAVE to switch weapons.  You could just stand there and shoot people or whack them with a hammer or whatever, but there's probably something good to be gained if you look for ways to combine your own abilities.


Incidentally, weapon swapping has no delay to it but engineer kit swapping does -- unless you pick up the trait to make it instant.
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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2012, 07:37:41 am »
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Saw a video of a thief swapping between shortbow and daggers.  Apparently one of the shortbow abilities will teleport you to wherever the arrow hits.  So he'd shoot the bow at someone, which would teleport him there, then he'd switch to daggers and slice them up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ZPKPFlw-k this one?

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2012, 08:42:32 am »
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Looks like leaked patch notes
http://i.imgur.com/mYBht.png

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2012, 08:39:38 am »
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Didn't read it all, but,

You can get skill challenges in WvW, you can get rewards for map completion,

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- Missiles now fire in the direction of the camera when the player has no target and is holding down the right mouse button (Side note: This is awesome.)


It actually stands like that in the changelog ^. To me, it does sound very awesome :D. Manual aiming, i guess? Like Tera?

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2012, 08:47:20 am »
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It actually stands like that in the changelog ^. To me, it does sound very awesome :D. Manual aiming, i guess? Like Tera?

No, it's a cosmetic fix more or less. It says they go in the direction you look if you have no target.

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2012, 05:28:16 pm »
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No, it's a cosmetic fix more or less. It says they go in the direction you look if you have no target.

Don't they mean a target by clicking on it, or going on him with tab?

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Re: Rate your beta experience
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2012, 10:40:22 pm »
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They mean, if you have no target selected that you will cast your missiles to the way your camera is facing and not somewhere random like it used to be.
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