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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #495 on: September 14, 2017, 02:58:27 pm »
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Well said. I remember us complaining about these issues on the old forums. The thing is all the remaining OKAM players actually think it's the greatest combat system available on the market, so now they have no one complaining about it.
I guess you can't blame them when they've only played Warband at a very basic level.
They were never interested in making the game skillful. Which direction did cRPG go in? Steadily easier and less skilled, removing as many of the little quirks that gave the combat its depth as they could, and intentionally making the speeds slower because "lol not everyone is a fast twitch player!!!"

Nessaj hooked me up with M:BG access, both forum and game, and I talked about it with him, raising all those concerns about the combat years ago. But the only feedback the Donkey team cared about was their inner circle of devs that doubled as play testers, and coincidentally none of them were ever great dueling.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #496 on: September 14, 2017, 04:05:38 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #497 on: September 14, 2017, 04:53:06 pm »
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Ugh, I missed this place. Never change.

Disregarding all negative feedback as "ugh". Never change OKAM. There's a reason why your project is the laughing stock of the gaming world, well, would be, if anyone actually cared about your trash game.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #498 on: September 14, 2017, 05:15:42 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #499 on: September 14, 2017, 05:16:10 pm »
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I've never had a problem with Jona, I like to think we're still good there but he can correct me if I'm wrong.

We cool, we cool. But I was still right in w.e. argument we had.  8-)
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #500 on: September 14, 2017, 05:40:01 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #501 on: September 14, 2017, 05:49:55 pm »
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I'm here not to defend the game and changes, if you have some questions or suggestions, go ahead, but it was more of a casual heads up. 90% of the posts are bashing Heskey and back though, which is what I responded to.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #502 on: September 14, 2017, 06:08:24 pm »
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Oh, as a good Christian I'll share my food with him.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #503 on: September 14, 2017, 06:56:47 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #504 on: September 14, 2017, 07:26:46 pm »
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I regret that the record of that old forum doesnt exist so that I can't disprove the essay you just wrote by finding the relevant threads that triggered you. Believe me, I've looked.

And no, posting on a thread that says "What were you thinking with this change developers!?!?!" with a quote from a developer showing their reasoning for a change, and speculation behind why this change may have happened is not standing in defence, not unless I say I think the reasoning is good or that the mechanic is good. It's compensating for shitty forum search skills and it's engaging with the community cos the devs sure werent doing it. When did a single dev come to one of those threads to answer your clearly bitter complaints? I attempted to answer questions that someone had already answered somewhere else. And when people wanted to rampantly speculate as to why and how something was the way it was, i took part as much as anyone, so shoot me lol.

I did ridicule some opinions, "game isn't optimised yet", "polish first, features later", "make Warband instead" because they were shit opinions or offered nothing of value. Plot-twist of the century, I still think dogshit opinions are dogshit even after my complete transformative 180. Complaints about mechanics, specifically the ones Kadeth mentioned above, I've always agreed with. I agreed with him at the time, I posted my agreement with him at the time. The OKAM Squad meme is hilarious, feel free to post away, they even got my clan colours right.

Maybe someone can find records from that forum to prove how great your imagination is. I'd love it if someone did. But in the meantime, I would like to take a moment to say I am utterly disgusted with all the child pornography you shared on that forum. It wasnt funny, it wasnt clever, it was just utterly sick and I can't believe you can sit on your high horse after circulating garbage like that every single day.
I guess it will be your words against mine then which in hindsight makes my post pretty pointless. My post to begin with was supposed to be short and keep the same lightheartedness as the first one but as I wrote it just kept getting longer and as I reread it now it feels like it has a more aggressive tone even condescending in some parts which was not what I wanted it to be. It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.
Well anyways who cares whether you actively defended OKAM or not it's not like you were Siegbert's level of devotion.

Just gonna leave this here, and let it sink in for a few seconds.
So according to you I painted my opposition as irrational and stupid by bringing up one of the archers I argued with (y'know, my 'opposition' in the situation you outlined)? How fiendish of me!

Be fair Bugnir, I can hardly be held responsible for the fact my opposition was by all accounts, irrational and stupid. It's certainly not my fault that some of the people choosing to critique the game mechanics were the same people (Jambi, Plumbo) that we've all learned over the years to tune out for their irrational and stupid posts about cRPG. I call that an own-goal on their part.
Well I guess you are right there, in Jambi's case he does merit the description you gave him.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #505 on: September 14, 2017, 07:34:37 pm »
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It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.

You shut your dirty mouth, Plumbo is a gentleman and a scholar.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #506 on: September 14, 2017, 07:46:28 pm »
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...lolwot?

im not a respected well known player...hmm, this is news to me, if anything, bugnir is adding his voice to mine.

everything else is pure bs, i was posting about how bad okam was for months, jona wasnt the only pro player you got into arguments with.
yes yes, i get it heskey, you were just "trolling" those werent your actual thoughts and opinions, you just said it for lols, like any of us believe that?
lol you self admittingly claim that you have a bunch of enemies, not for saying stupid shit...but because annoying others...pleasures you...hmm.

i think its far more likely some nothing and no one kid acted like he knew what he was talking about, then jumped ship the moment it became abundantly clear you dont know wtf you are talking about. lol, like you and siegbert really thought okam was gonna succeed.

im sure you think im dumb/completly retarded...thats fine
you genuinely thought okam was better and thought it would succeed...now thats dumb

go on dumb dumb, flip that. or ignore it. for someone that has my post count, its obvious that i only jump back when some thing incredibly dumb has just occured. for someone with your post count...no no, heskey, this is MY hobby, this is YOUR life. im honestly surprised you didnt go back into hiding, been waiting to shit talk with you...

so...lets talk.

clearly your not gonna admit what we all know is true, the same way im probably gonna remind you about this for as long as i know you.
you get pleasure out of saying dumb shit and annoying people...i get my kicks from putting people in their place.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #507 on: September 14, 2017, 07:48:08 pm »
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I guess it will be your words against mine then which in hindsight makes my post pretty pointless. My post to begin with was supposed to be short and keep the same lightheartedness as the first one but as I wrote it just kept getting longer and as I reread it now it feels like it has a more aggressive tone even condescending in some parts which was not what I wanted it to be. It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.
Well anyways who cares whether you actively defended OKAM or not it's not like you were Siegbert's level of devotion.
Well I guess you are right there, in Jambi's case he does merit the description you gave him.

lol, its not your word vs his, we ALL remember it.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #508 on: September 14, 2017, 07:52:40 pm »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #509 on: September 14, 2017, 08:04:03 pm »
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