How to nerf archery, without destroying it.

[Templar_Steevee]

Getting all in one from last nerf archery topic i suggest to:

1. Revert patch buffing non loomed archery gear.
2. Decrease amount of arrows per quiver (17 or 16 bodkins on +3 should be ok)
3. Reduce fire ratio for bows while shooting from horseback (devs done it to HX, so i think they can do it for bows)
4. Lower missile speed for low tier bows (Long bow should have highest missile speed, but it stay just like it is atm, rest should have lower missile speed with rule: lower dmg ->  lower missile speed)
5. Lower a bit amount of dmg added by arrows

IMO as an archer after this patch I'll be forced to stop spamming arrows if I would like to keep some for end of the round, and i'll have lower dmg (if i'll use non loomed gear)

Plenty archers are using non loomed bows (i can see it because i'm using hireloom models boss pack), so after patch they will GTX from archery or will start using slower and less acurate, but stronger and more expensive bows. HA will also stop to being a raiding gatling guns.

[Tzar]

Hope its not too late, since Eu1 is more or less dead atm... 

Also they should add some PD requirement for xBaws...

BTW: I honestly dont find archers to be OP, its just the silly amount of em along with the xbaws, that consume the server.

But thumbs up to you, being a pure archer and all, comming up with a none biased opinion.

[Jack1]

Time of horse thrower arises it will. New rebellion put down must we.

[Templar_Steevee]

I can't tell anything about x-bows because i don't even have an x-bow alt.
I can agree that they should have some skill needed to use it or have way higher str requirements. Thing that are hitting that shond should be reloaded with bare hands only by someone really strong.

[Grumbs]

+1. Less spamming until you hit something, more player skill for aiming shots, unlocking higher damage through playtime (this i'm not so sure on, but for now its better than the current situation)

Xbows require more messing around to fix. Ideally they need build reworks but they should have done that before the respecs. Otherwise, they need something akin to throwers, gear limits based on WPF

[Templar_Steevee]

Gear limit based on WPF is no a good idea IMO because it's easy to get hi WPF atm

[Prpavi]

I agree with this changes, also I agree to adding requrimenet like PD to xbows and making Arbalest 6PD like Rus and Long Bows.

Also a major nerf for HA would be making all the bows 2 slot on horseback, combined with smaller quivers I would really be careful which shots I take.

[Senni__Ti]

I agree with all but 1, it seemed like a necessary change to me. (I'd like to see a similar thing done to all other loom types, looms are far too game changing)

[Carthan]

An EU archer suggesting on nerfing archery?

oh god
the countdown is already zero
END OF DAYS END OF DAYS

[Gurnisson]

How to nerf archery, without destroying it.

Remove arrows from the game

[BlueKnight]

I agree with this changes, also I agree to adding requrimenet like PD to xbows and making Arbalest 6PD like Rus and Long Bows.

Funny how they could change crossbows requirement while giving the free respec from patch to everyone, I even mentioned it there that I'm surprised to see that nothing has been changed while having this great opportunity of free respec. If they ever change xbow requirements, they will have to give free respec again lul.

[Dezilagel]

Due to internet issues I haven't been playing for a while, so I can't really make a valid statement about the current power of archers.

However, if you're going to nerf archers, leave the loom nerf/+0 buff as it is. It used to be silly and plain unfair to new players just how much looms affected ranged.

[Adamar]

No, this is not a solution, only a step back. Quit looking at the ranged component of the class, and figure out a way to introduce confining elitism to class mechanics without nerfing.

[BlindGuy]

Again, half arrow weight, half arrow count, reduce weights of plate armor, make yumi 2 slots, make rusbow a useful item, make carrying 3 slots of arrows display a massive pink flag over your head at all times that flashes the word bundle of sticks, these are all good ideas.

[_GTX_]

Well its clear that EU_1 is ''dying'', there is usually alot more players on EU_2 when i look. Even EU_7 has constant activity. So if the devs wont listen to the ''QQ'', then the player count on the servers speaks for itself.

I agree with this, so +1 from me.