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Has history happened?

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Offline Jarold

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2013, 03:05:39 am »
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I feel like you are just making up questions that sound smart and deep but are just confusing and foolish. Like I could say "If the world was never created how could it come to exist in our minds if you don't know the truth..........."

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2013, 03:24:21 am »
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Are there any proof you exist?  :D

Was going to post this.

If you really want to go into that kind of disbelief, the same can be said of anything. Am I real? Am I a figment of someone else's imagination? Can we truly trust that you're a person and not an AI that really likes crpg.

Nothing can be proven real. Not when taken to ridiculous extremes. Its fun to do when messing around with friends but to take it seriously in life leads to ruin since nothing can be believed not even the belief that you exist. If you want to go down that road, go for it but understand what it really means.
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2013, 03:47:43 am »
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i believe that the biggest problem of Humanity is
The Thought:

I cant.....

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2013, 07:45:43 pm »
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i believe that the biggest problem of Humanity is
The Thought:

I cant.....

I can't find a fault in your reasoning.

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2013, 03:30:01 pm »
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This whole forum and game is just a figment of my imagination, one of my intricate delusions. None of you are real
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #80 on: March 25, 2013, 03:47:09 pm »
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Cogito ergo sum.

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2013, 08:05:00 pm »
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For the OP:

Maybe ask your parents/grandparents if they have ever lived? And maybe they even remember their own grandparents who lived before them? Etc. That is history, it's not only the major events, but also everyday life. Yesterday is also history.

Also think about why is your country called Poland and how was it formed? Out of nowhere? By aliens? Or was there maybe long series of historical events that led to the current state of the Polish nation? Maybe you can even see some old buildings around you to remind you that there have been life before you.

Of course no one can be 100% sure what happened in the past and it is well know that historyy is often written by the winners. But the historians (at least the professional ones) try take that to account in their studies and use some logic and trustworthy evidence.

But if your problem is that you're not sure if the world is only your dream/imagination/mushroom hallucination/Matrix I suggest you to just ignore that and continue living as you have been, there's nothing you can do about it (unless you take the red pill).

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2013, 09:55:45 am »
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This concept might be relevant to the topic you are discussing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Historicism
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2013, 05:00:24 pm »
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This concept might be relevant to the topic you are discussing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Historicism

"critical theory"

Annnnd I stopped reading there.
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2013, 11:48:29 am »
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I don't know a shit about it too. Just thought it'd be helpful maybe.
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2013, 01:56:22 pm »
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I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot on this, but legitimizing ridiculous meaningless gibberish (like the OP) by cloaking it in fancy sounding verbiage will usually be done with some element of post-modern social "science".
This quote from the wikipedia link sumarizes my opinion on New Historicism: "a refuge for English majors without critical talent or broad learning in history or political science. [...] To practice it, you must apparently lack all historical sense."
Which is not to say that all of the social sciences and the humanities are worthless disciplines. Just that they are too easily used by mediocre "intellectuals" who feel equipped to tackle any and all subjects despite a total lack of knowledge in any other fields.
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2013, 01:59:02 pm »
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Prof. Oberyn - laying down the law.

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #87 on: April 06, 2013, 07:41:27 am »
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I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot on this, but legitimizing ridiculous meaningless gibberish (like the OP) by cloaking it in fancy sounding verbiage will usually be done with some element of post-modern social "science".
This quote from the wikipedia link sumarizes my opinion on New Historicism: "a refuge for English majors without critical talent or broad learning in history or political science. [...] To practice it, you must apparently lack all historical sense."
Which is not to say that all of the social sciences and the humanities are worthless disciplines. Just that they are too easily used by mediocre "intellectuals" who feel equipped to tackle any and all subjects despite a total lack of knowledge in any other fields.

Oh come on Oberyn.
Firstly, read the OP again.
And secondly, as wasted as I am, please Ignore all wrtitings eroors. I'm wasted. Just read the OP again.
He asked in simple english. Even I understand it. Where exactly is "fancy sounding verbiage"?
That's all.
And also What does verbiage even mean? I don't know where my dictioanary is. Please help me.

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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2013, 10:05:52 am »
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Oh come on Oberyn.
Firstly, read the OP again.
And secondly, as wasted as I am, please Ignore all wrtitings eroors. I'm wasted. Just read the OP again.
He asked in simple english. Even I understand it. Where exactly is "fancy sounding verbiage"?
That's all.
And also What does verbiage even mean? I don't know where my dictioanary is. Please help me.

You've misunderstood me. Probably because you're drunk XD. The OP is retarded, and very simple. After all it comes from Rantrex. My point was that from the perspective of New Historicism Rantrex's retarded bullshit can easily be turned into an interesting and deep criticism of what is commonly understood as history. The exact same "arguement" that Rantrex makes is repeated, except covered in sociological terms to give it a veneer of intellectualism. When really it is as meaningful as a dog smelling it's own farts.
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Re: Has history ever happened?
« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2013, 07:28:13 pm »
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ya this is dum.

Last week I went to the gas station and I can prove it.
Last year my kid was born and I can prove it.
Last decade I worked for my uncle and I can prove it.
Last century the automobile was invented and I can prove it.

You have to ask if specific things can be proved.  To ask if history itself can be proved is retarded.