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Remove Shift-Zooming and/or Crosshairs?

Yes
30 (24.4%)
No
53 (43.1%)
Only Shift Zooming
27 (22%)
Only Crosshairs (wat)
13 (10.6%)

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2011, 12:23:23 am »
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Try aiming down the barrel of a gun, or a bow. It's practically "zooming" (unless you are doing instinctive shooting). Your peripheral vision goes away and you concentrate a lot more. If anything, lower the sound drastically when aiming and zooming, but removing it would actually be unrealistic.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2011, 12:37:50 am »
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How are you more accurate when you don't zoom in?  :lol:

I have no idea why that is, but you are more accurate when you shot without zooming.
One thing is that your reticule is bigger when you zoom and your arrow almost never goes straight forward to the middle of your reticule, dunno why.

I've stopped zooming in a long time ago and I get far more kills than before ;)
Tenne is also shooting without zoom as far as I know and I bet most good archers shoot without

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2011, 04:35:42 am »
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your reticule is bigger.. so is everything else on the screen.  its ZOOM, after all
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2011, 03:49:13 pm »
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Haha.

Guess ranged elitists found the thread and got butthurt.

Oh, well.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2011, 04:06:10 pm »
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2011, 04:16:56 pm »
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May I ask why?

Just interested.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2011, 04:21:21 pm »
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One bad thing about removing zoom is that it would favor short range archery.

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2011, 04:22:34 pm »
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Hey, if you want to increase friendly archer hits by 100%, by all means.

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2011, 04:22:51 pm »
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One bad thing about removing zoom is that it would favor short range archery.

That's what most archers do anyways.

Yeah, now -my post without an actual discussion.

Meh, what did I expect.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2011, 04:29:27 pm »
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I even use zoom as pure melee. It's the ability to focus one's view on something distant, losing field of view in return. I wouldn't want to miss it.

We might remove the ability to block/chamber with a poleaxe in close combat though. You can switch to fist mode and chamberblock incoming attacks then. That would lead to a nice skill increase for poleaxers.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2011, 04:32:00 pm »
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Has it's uses, yes.

But there is a reason I put it in Realism Discussion, and not in GB discussion.  :)

Gameplay-wise it's okay, but from the Realism side it's weird.  :)

*not like Realism Discussion is taken seriously, but whatever*
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 04:33:11 pm »
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That's what most archers do anyways.

Yeah, now -my post without an actual discussion.

Meh, what did I expect.

Well, i suppose then the best solution is to make accurate shooting more difficult for the archers who try to avoid teamhits. Heck, let's make the bow the flamberge of ranged TW/TK, why not?

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2011, 04:34:19 pm »
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First person view: Zoom is not unrealistic at all. It is simply the character focusing/squinting into the distance on a certain point, thus removing their peripheral vision.

The crosshairs are stupid, but idk if they could be removed at this point in the game's development.

In some optimal version of the game there would be no 3rd person view, 1st person view would be slid back a bit on the char's shoulders or given a wider FOV, zoom and crosshairs would be removed.

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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2011, 04:53:41 pm »
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crosshairs is easy mode for ranged.
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Re: Remove Shift-Zooming/Crosshairs.
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2011, 06:31:44 pm »
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I'm playing on 1920x1080 on a 27 inch screen. I don't need zoom.

But i see no reason to punish people on wooden pc's and small monitors by removing zoom.