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Closed Requests / Ban Request: Recruiter
« on: May 18, 2012, 11:57:43 am »
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General Discussion / Re: SPOOK ISLAND
« on: May 18, 2012, 10:57:42 am »
If this is true it should be pretty easy for him to post a report of the story from the local paper.
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Beginner's Help and Guides / Re: End of life leveling
« on: May 18, 2012, 10:52:20 am »
I can't believe i've been playing this long and i'm just finding this out. Sigh. Time to rethink quite a few of my builds.
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Closed Requests / Re: Ban Request: AlKerakhead
« on: May 18, 2012, 10:47:53 am »Ylca: The Anders of "racist" ban requests.
Come at me warn %.
I'm not really sure what this is intended to mean.
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Closed Requests / Re: Request a warning for Hospitaller_KIlgore
« on: May 17, 2012, 08:06:41 pm »I'm a chink, I don't really find it offensive seeing how this is just a game, if people are allowed to say n**ga in game, why can't he say chink?
Probably for the same reason you felt it necessary to censor yourself when you were typing out the word i'd assume.
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Beginner's Help and Guides / Re: End of life leveling
« on: May 17, 2012, 08:05:25 pm »37
Spam / Re: Ban Long_Claw for Rage Polling
« on: May 17, 2012, 06:36:28 pm »
Very interesting that you argued in rohypnol's thread that the fact that he got kicked meant that the community had come to a decision thus it was justified, yet in your own thread you argue exactly the opposite.
This is exactly the sort of thing i was warning you about when i was saying "rule by mob" rather than rule by policies as written.
This is exactly the sort of thing i was warning you about when i was saying "rule by mob" rather than rule by policies as written.
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Closed Requests / Ban Request: AlKerakhead
« on: May 17, 2012, 06:33:53 pm » (click to show/hide)
Ban request for racism.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 09:40:55 pm »It's not the end of the world, it's a kick. Drama queens are everywhere on this server, it's really silly. Rohy, you got kicked twice, stop whining. You're not the shit, your class is cowardly, and requires little skill.
...and this is the problem with polling. People are voting based on e-honour and perceived slights rather than server rules. It's become a form of mob rule and is abused pretty much daily.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 09:24:06 pm »
You know what, fuck it just turn off polls because people can't handle the most minor forms of responsibility without going all Napoleon with them. Every time i turn around someone is ragepolling for one reason or another and it's just getting completely ridiculous. Take the toy away because the kiddies can't play nice.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 04:32:38 pm »
I find it funny that you find trash talking a triviality, but playing one's class a kickworthy offense.
I also find it interesting that you make constant appeals to the majority. So, is the case now that you only have to make a poll appeal popular enough regardless of the actual rules. That would be an interesting day because then on the days when half the server is complaining about Spook's complete inability to go 2 maps without personally attacking half the server we'd see him kicked on a consistent basis. Again, i find it interesting that you're fighting so hard for an interpretation of polling that has no basis in the rules as written and moreover would only work against you if it were ever actually implemented.
"Well let the community decide" is all well and good when it's against someone that you are annoyed with personally but when it turns around and bites you right back i can only imagine the shouts of "wait that isn't in the rules, that's not that important! It's just a triviality!"
Funny though i think that may be i'd rather have a hard fast set of rules than a group of people deciding on the fly based on their whim of the day.
I also find it interesting that you make constant appeals to the majority. So, is the case now that you only have to make a poll appeal popular enough regardless of the actual rules. That would be an interesting day because then on the days when half the server is complaining about Spook's complete inability to go 2 maps without personally attacking half the server we'd see him kicked on a consistent basis. Again, i find it interesting that you're fighting so hard for an interpretation of polling that has no basis in the rules as written and moreover would only work against you if it were ever actually implemented.
"Well let the community decide" is all well and good when it's against someone that you are annoyed with personally but when it turns around and bites you right back i can only imagine the shouts of "wait that isn't in the rules, that's not that important! It's just a triviality!"
Funny though i think that may be i'd rather have a hard fast set of rules than a group of people deciding on the fly based on their whim of the day.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 04:19:54 pm » (click to show/hide)
If that definition of griefing were used a lot of people clamoring for this to be an accepted practice would be gone constantly on forced vacation. Have we played so much CRPG that we've forgotten that the kind of trolling that goes on on a constant basis in CRPG would be grounds for perma-ban on most private servers in other games. Case in point Spook, you spend much of your time on the game randomly insulting and being as offensive as you possibly can be interspersed with an occasional bout of strategy and/or compliments when your team is winning. The amount of vitriol that you spew on an almost daily basis would get you kicked constantly if we instituted the "make rules as you feel like" idea that seems to be the basis of this thread.
There's a reason that there is a set of rules handed down from the devs and there's a reason that those are the rules enforced by the admins. Polls are a nice privilege that we get to moderate the servers when admins aren't around (which by the way for mornings on NA is pretty much every day- could you guys pick an admin that actually logs in mornings please?) but if we abuse that privilege they're just going to take it away again and then we all get to suffer through Trollfield: Call of Dickery like we used to back in the day.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 03:56:35 pm »
The majority of the community doesn't make the rules or all ranged, horse or ground, would be banned, polearms would have no stagger, shields would probably not exist, and in fact this game would probably simply be 2hers online.
As most people have mentioned in their own words Rohypnol was actively engaging which is to say he was fighting which, under the current definition is not delaying. As for the claims that he hides till the end of the round that might be true on occasion but as for today as a cav i watched rohy zoom right past me shooting at my horse within 30 seconds of the start of most rounds. He's not hiding anywhere he simply pimps his arabian and rockets across the field dodging most anything that comes his way.
Annoyance with his playstyle still does not give the general community the right or the power to change the rules of the game and kick a player for playing within the bounds of the rules. If that's the case then when i can convince a majority of players that a plate + crushthrough weapon is "damaging our fun" can we votekick him too? How about ground archers? Maybe a pikeman, definitely that because they're my worst nightmare as cav (a good one at least).
Devs make the rules, admins enforce them. Nowhere along the line did i read that this had become a democracy where players have the go ahead to make and enforce their own policies at whim, nor should it be that way. Hate that horse archers don't have to dismount? Well make a thread about it and ask for a rule change- don't just enforce your own rules that aren't even close to being policy. This is getting ridiculous and the end result isn't going to be an action against rohypnol it's probably going to be them turning off bans so that they don't have to read this shit every single day. You think Rohy is a "troll" wait till you see what servers are like when there are no admins and polls aren't on. It ain't pretty.
As most people have mentioned in their own words Rohypnol was actively engaging which is to say he was fighting which, under the current definition is not delaying. As for the claims that he hides till the end of the round that might be true on occasion but as for today as a cav i watched rohy zoom right past me shooting at my horse within 30 seconds of the start of most rounds. He's not hiding anywhere he simply pimps his arabian and rockets across the field dodging most anything that comes his way.
Annoyance with his playstyle still does not give the general community the right or the power to change the rules of the game and kick a player for playing within the bounds of the rules. If that's the case then when i can convince a majority of players that a plate + crushthrough weapon is "damaging our fun" can we votekick him too? How about ground archers? Maybe a pikeman, definitely that because they're my worst nightmare as cav (a good one at least).
Devs make the rules, admins enforce them. Nowhere along the line did i read that this had become a democracy where players have the go ahead to make and enforce their own policies at whim, nor should it be that way. Hate that horse archers don't have to dismount? Well make a thread about it and ask for a rule change- don't just enforce your own rules that aren't even close to being policy. This is getting ridiculous and the end result isn't going to be an action against rohypnol it's probably going to be them turning off bans so that they don't have to read this shit every single day. You think Rohy is a "troll" wait till you see what servers are like when there are no admins and polls aren't on. It ain't pretty.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 03:38:18 pm » (click to show/hide)
In this image PK_IncrediblySkillful flat out admits Rohypnol wasn't delay, but rather simply using a playstyle that the server didn't agree with. He wasn't breaking any rules other than the rules that people made up for their own lack of ability to remain alive/ kill rohypnol. Again, there is no rule stating that an HA must dismount, only that the player must actively be engaging which Rohypnol always does because he's actually pretty good at being an HA. I'm not a big fan of sitting around chasing the guy but i realize that i'm not a dev so i can't just make up my own rules on the fly as i go.
These were both ragepolls.
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Closed Requests / Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
« on: May 14, 2012, 03:21:52 pm »
I was around for this incident, The pollers were warned that rage polling could get them banned and the second poller blatantly admitted he didn't care.
Until there is a rule that HA/HX have to dismount then player should not take it upon themselves to legislate new rules, it's beyond ridiculous.
As usual Rohy was still engaging, dehorsing cav and getting kills, and MOTF was working properly so there isn't even the excuse that there's no alternate victory condition.
Just rohy getting shit for playing his class by players who think they can make new server rules whenever they please, normal day in CRPG.
Until there is a rule that HA/HX have to dismount then player should not take it upon themselves to legislate new rules, it's beyond ridiculous.
As usual Rohy was still engaging, dehorsing cav and getting kills, and MOTF was working properly so there isn't even the excuse that there's no alternate victory condition.
Just rohy getting shit for playing his class by players who think they can make new server rules whenever they please, normal day in CRPG.