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Off Topic => General Off Topic => Topic started by: Golem on June 05, 2018, 10:05:48 pm
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Discuss.
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No thanks.
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Just aswell.
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i can't type it in letters because i can't write but i could speak it in words if that makes sense but i believe it is a religion at war
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the ministry of defence use to be called ministry of war
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Just aswell.
Starting such a heated topic of debate with no input as the OP is very uncouth, but based in my downvotes above this is not a popularly held opinion??
I guess post whatever open ended questions you want, devoid of content. Put out a pile of fireworks and watch people with matches and lighters come to set them off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Whatkind of a bootleg "am I racist" thread are you trying to make here?
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Starting such a heated topic of debate with no input as the OP is very uncouth, but based in my downvotes above this is not a popularly held opinion??
I guess post whatever open ended questions you want, devoid of content. Put out a pile of fireworks and watch people with matches and lighters come to set them off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hahaha shut the fuck up you stupid cunt
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cunt
disgusting cultural appropriation
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disgusting cultural appropriation
B-b-b-b-but you're white, the internet tells me that means you can't possibly have any culture.
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This is like a basic fucking rule of the internet, you don't post such a Big Question with no effort or input on your own part. Is this the fall of Rome? Are we about to elect a horse irl as part of the admin team?
It's going to the wolves, and you're the guy tossing entrails out the back door at them.
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Are we about to elect a horse irl as part of the admin team?
a horse would be far too overqualified
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This is like a basic fucking rule of the internet, you don't post such a Big Question with no effort or input on your own part. Is this the fall of Rome? Are we about to elect a horse irl as part of the admin team?
It's going to the wolves, and you're the guy tossing entrails out the back door at them.
It's a simple question. I think you're reading too much into it.
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Islam is whatever practitioners bring into it. One muslim society mutilates girls in a process with high mortality rate, the other elects female presidents.
A bit like our individual view of islam is a product of our society: the average European will problably be influenced by the migrant crisis in his thoughts about islam, the average american will probably be influenced by the wars in the middle east or terrorism... who knows what the chinese think.
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Islam is whatever practitioners bring into it. One muslim society mutilates girls in a process with high mortality rate, the other elects female presidents.
A bit like our individual view of islam is a product of our society: the average European will problably be influenced by the migrant crisis in his thoughts about islam, the average american will probably be influenced by the wars in the middle east or terrorism... who knows what the chinese think.
the chinese have had an ongoing problem with their Uyghur population for a while. i don't know if they take active measures to clamp down on international coverage of the conflict, but you sure don't hear shit about it unless you're actively looking for info. from what i've read, they can be often fond of mass knife attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict#Jihadist_elements
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the chinese have had an ongoing problem with their Uyghur population for a while. i don't know if they take active measures to clamp down on international coverage of the conflict, but you sure don't hear shit about it unless you're actively looking for info. from what i've read, they can be often fond of mass knife attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_conflict#Jihadist_elements
uhg, gay ass subhumans
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... who knows what the chinese think.
They are super racist against muslims and have been calling them names and having race riots since the 700s
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a horse would be far too overqualified
I'm all for electing a horse if its got a badass name similar to Incitatus.
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They are super racist against muslims and have been calling them names and having race riots since the 700s
You can't be racist against a religion. C'mon, we went over this 10 years ago.
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Whereas the noble muslims have always embraced anyone of other religions and cultures, of course. Wow I wonder wtf muslims were doing bordering China in the 8th century. Almost as if they had just spent decades invading and conquering Khorasan and annihilating rebellion after rebellion by the natives. Witchcraft painting a retarded narrative of mudslimes as eternal victims, imagine my shock.
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Whereas the noble muslims have always embraced anyone of other religions and cultures, of course. Wow I wonder wtf muslims were doing bordering China in the 8th century. Almost as if they had just spent decades invading and conquering Khorasan and annihilating rebellion after rebellion by the natives. Witchcraft painting a retarded narrative of mudslimes as eternal victims, imagine my shock.
You are reading a lot into my statement that yes, the Chinese are racist. The duration or their racism is just because China is world's oldest culture, do you know?
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Or, and this is going to blow your mind I know, "racism" is endemic to every single human civilization that has ever fucking existed, including your precious mudslimes? Dumb cunt.
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Islam is a religion of peace, in fact it's probably more peaceful than any other religion. What you racist alt right Pepe meme warriors fail to consider is that they only respond to a millennia of western oppression starting with the crusades. But of course, that goes right over your privileged white heads and as usual, you have zero capacity to empathize with people who look different from you.
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Nice obvious troll, but I'm still gonna take the bait. Why did the Crusades happen again? Almost as if it was in response to hundreds of years of mudslime invasion and conquests hmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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Nice obvious troll, but I'm still gonna take the bait. Why did the Crusades happen again? Almost as if it was in response to hundreds of years of mudslime invasion and conquests hmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Excuse me?? So now anyone who isn't a racist is a troll? Not that I'm surprised that scumbag alt right idiot deplorables start name calling since u can't address actual arguments.
The cause of the crusades was the fanatic religious conviction of the peaceful Christian religion. Islam was center of science, culture and learning and treated people from other religions much better than medieval Europeans. How about you read a history book??
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Islam is a religion of peace, in fact it's probably more peaceful than any other religion. What you racist alt right Pepe meme warriors fail to consider is that they only respond to a millennia of western oppression starting with the crusades. But of course, that goes right over your privileged white heads and as usual, you have zero capacity to empathize with people who look different from you.
Nice obvious troll, but I'm still gonna take the bait. Why did the Crusades happen again? Almost as if it was in response to hundreds of years of mudslime invasion and conquests hmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMM.
I sense a new friendship in the making. Or maybe even old mercenary comradeship being reforged & reinforced.
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The Middle-East and North Africa was Christian heartland from Roman times. Christian lands hundreds of years before the birth of Muhammad. Conquered by invading Arab and Turkish Muslims from Late Antiquity until the Fall of Constantinople and increasingly purged of Christians continuing to this day. The Crusades were an attempt by the Church to take back what had been Christian territory since Constantine, and had been European-controlled lands since the days of Alexander the Great.
That the Caliphates were centers of tolerance is not corroborated by modern scholarship (see 'The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain' https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Andalusian-Paradise-Christians-Medieval/dp/1610170954). Jews and Christians were treated harshly by their Islamic rulers in Spain and one of the reasons for the First Crusade was the ill treatment of pilgrims in Jerusalem by the Seljuk Turks. Contrary to how they are often portrayed today the Frankish crusaders treated their non-Christian subjects with a lot of leniency (confirmed by Arab sources such as Ibn Jubayr), allowing complete religious freedom and Muslim villages to govern themselves locally according to Sharia. Even military orders such as the Knights Templar were known for displays of religious tolerance, in one source we have a temple knight showing a Muslim pilgrim the direction to Mecca to help him with his prayer, or by allowing Muslims to pray in the Temple of Solomon.
That the Caliphates were centers of science, culture and learning was not because of Islam but despite Islam. The desert-dwelling Arabs (and later the Turks) on the periphery of civilization took over the most developed area in the known world, the splendours of the ancient world, the heritage of the kingdoms of the hellenistic Diadochi, the most advanced provinces of the Roman and Byzantine Empires, themselves inheritors of the ancient Egyptians, Phoenicians, Persians, Hittites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc. Rather, it could be viewed as strange that the Islamic world was not more cultured after taking possession of this cultural treasure hoard, perhaps a testament to the backwardness of Arabic religion and culture. Yes, ancient texts (mostly Christian or pagan Greek) were translated and survived to later inspire Christian Europe but it would never have been an issue if the area hadn't been overrun by Muslims in the first place. Many of the most famous Islamic centres of learning were previously Nestorian Christian and pre-Islamic Persian schools and universities (School of Edessa, School of Nisibis, Academy of Gondishapur), or staffed and led by Christian scholars (House of Wisdom in Baghdad) drawing on Byzantine Greek and Persian knowledge.
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Or, and this is going to blow your mind I know, "racism" is endemic to every single human civilization that has ever fucking existed, including your precious mudslimes? Dumb cunt.
Yeah but the Han are particularly homogenous and have had centuries to perfect their art. They're really good at being racist.
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Addressing hateful historical revisionism masquerading as objective scholarship is beneath me.
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Your feeble western minds are unable to decide whether we are hostile or not.LE ME EXPLAIN : islam and all religions are hostile ,all cults are religion of war,because all religions naturally form a unity among themselves when a unity between some people are made ; the other,the different,the excluded earthlings from the unity will be the enemy,therefore,eventually there will be war versus the included and excluded.omg i am so sophisticated.
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the excluded earthlings from the unity will be the enemy
However, if there be any who suffers without previous sin, it will not be "by the design of an [adverse] power", but as suffers the babe who appears to have committed no sin. The infant is said to receive a benefit when it is subjected to suffering, "gaining" many hardships
Funny. If you read both of these, side by side, then you can see how both are false, as well as true statements.
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Interestingly, the superguns used by the Ottomans during the Fall of Constantinople were made by an engineer from Europe (most likely Hungarian or German) and the bombard technology itself was also European, mainly German.
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Does the engineer have a name? Sounds like an interesting story.
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It's a good story. His name was Orban, ironically enough.
http://www.camrea.org/2017/09/11/orban-the-man-who-brought-down-the-walls-of-constantinople-part-i/
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"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?"
German tradition.
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It's a good story. His name was Orban, ironically enough.
http://www.camrea.org/2017/09/11/orban-the-man-who-brought-down-the-walls-of-constantinople-part-i/
Absolutely love reading stuff like this. To think of all the meticulous historical work needed to preserve such information.
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It's a good story. His name was Orban, ironically enough.
http://www.camrea.org/2017/09/11/orban-the-man-who-brought-down-the-walls-of-constantinople-part-i/
On the day when cannon are to be cast, the masters, foremen and founders, together with the Grand Master of the Artillery, the Chief Overseer, Imam, Muezzin and timekeeper, all assemble and to the cries of “Allah! Allah!,” the wood is thrown into the furnace. After these have been heated doe twenty-four hours, the founders and stokers strip naked, wearing nothing but their slippers, an odd kind of cap which leaves nothing but their eyes visible, and thick sleeves to protect his arms; for, after the fire has been alight in the furnaces twenty-four hours, no person can approach on account of the heat, save he be attired in the above manner. Whoever wishes to see a good picture of the fires of hell should witness this sight.
that is super fucking cool, thanks for the link
the Ottomans likely acquired bronze bells from Christian churches to be melted and remolded into cannons.
the Vezirs, the Mufti and Sheiks are summoned; only forty persons, besides the personnel of the foundry, are admitted all told. The rest of the attendants are shut out, because the [tin], when infusion, will not suffer to be looked at by evil eyes. Thereupon the master-workmen with wooden shovels throw several hundredweight of tin into the sea of molten brass, and the head-founder says to the Grand Vizier, Vezirs and Sheiks: “Throw some gold and silver coins into the brazen sea as alms, in the name of the True Faith!” Poles as long as the yard of ships are used for mixing the gold and silver with the metal and are replaced as fast as consumed... in three months a terrible and unprecedented monster was constructed and cast.”
badass
holy shit he built a cannon that had a muzzle almost 1 meter wide. That's far larger than any modern era naval cannons. I know, I know, it's a literal cannon and not a giant rifled barrel firing shells, but holy shit that is some incredible brute force. I can't even imagine the sound of one being fired.
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yo crazy thing was that despite huge holes the connons shot into the byzantine walls some superhero like genoese captain, giovanni sth sth, ahead of a small professional soldiers force held those holes, filled them up, swept away waves and waves of ottomann intruders. only when he was shot down, did the walls, and consequently the city, fall.
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holy shit he built a cannon that had a muzzle almost 1 meter wide
Wouldn't that just be incredibly inefficient?
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Stop spreading triump of my holy country,to eu cuntries.We took down the walls with our own mechanics and professionals.Wiki is biased because it is eu based site,discussion is over thank you for participating.
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Wouldn't that just be incredibly inefficient?
yes but that makes it even more badass
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Hmmm I'm not really sure you know it gets kinda difficult.