Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Molly on February 28, 2017, 03:57:06 pm
On Steam even. Win10 only tho...
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on February 28, 2017, 04:02:59 pm
Steam community is in an uproar because WB is cutting content to sell in their $80 and $100 silver and gold packs.I only bought the base game with som will be same with this.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: njames89 on February 28, 2017, 04:49:17 pm
They let a token Hobbit serve as a Tower Guard, so clearly Denethor has a thing for letting different species serve in his army. That explains the presence of this Haradrim savage from a lore perspective.
They let a token Hobbit serve as a Tower Guard, so clearly Denethor has a thing for letting different species serve in his army. That explains the presence of this Haradrim savage from a lore perspective.
You can explain it as much you want but it is clear as day why they choose black guy as MC or why Moonlight won this years Oscars. It is fucking agenda of shit people and I hate it.
Saying this clearly marks me as racist, I'm fully aware of it. Doesn't matter that I tend to roleplay Redguard in every fucking The Elder Scrolls game... you know why I do that? Because I find Redguards to be awesome and no one is pushing them down my throat.
Moonlight may be fine movie, I haven't saw it. But I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why it won an Oscar. Politics is the reason.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 01, 2017, 11:53:05 am
Moonlight(a movie) won(the Oscars) because of PC due to last years "muh black nominees" from last year and is in line with this one black dude in the trailer, and isn't Tolkiens world based mostly on Norse / Finnish and Icelandic folkelore? Would be no nigs there.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Jona on March 01, 2017, 04:24:53 pm
Guess you could call him...
:) -> 8-)
...the tolkien black guy.
I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: njames89 on March 01, 2017, 04:26:41 pm
Moonlight(a movie) won(the Oscars) because of PC due to last years "muh black nominees" from last year and is in line with this one black dude in the trailer, and isn't Tolkiens world based mostly on Norse / Finnish and Icelandic folkelore? Would be no nigs there.
Middle Earth is based on everything mythical, Norse, Greek, Egyptian, Mesopotamian, goddamn Bible. Tolkien was a scholar and translator, he borrowed ideas from any source he could find. Although Beowulf was his biggest inspiration.
It's kinda dull having fantasy world without colored people. Imagine Diablo II without Paladin, without Lut Gholein and Kurast. It would be worse experience, quite a bit.
Diversity is good, political agenda abusing diversity is not.
One of the bigger problems with Skyrim is lack of diversity, especially compared with melting pot that is isle of Vvardenfell. Not just that. Nords in Morrowind, are mysterious and intriguing. There's very few of them but you kinda want to know more. In Skyrim they delivered more, in the worst possible way. Stereotypical viking society which has roots on cinema more than actual sources. Nords just don't feel real in Skyrim. When you want to depict northern people who aren't rulers of their destiny, it is better to go Wildlings route from ASoIaF than developed, well off society where winter doesn't to be of much concern like in Skyrim. The way Nords dealt with each other, political struggles reminds me more of Breton. They are so timid, good natured, gullible, like they modeled them based on Scandinavians of today :P
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Xant on March 01, 2017, 06:55:43 pm
Wait, why are some of you assuming the main character is black? Pretty sure that was just some random guy?
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on March 01, 2017, 07:07:19 pm
The nerve trying make Spider-Man black.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Molly on March 01, 2017, 07:28:51 pm
Main character is the one from part 1 and he's a white dude.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Xant on March 01, 2017, 08:13:22 pm
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on March 08, 2017, 10:42:45 pm
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Banok on March 08, 2017, 11:54:29 pm
I stomached my way through the first game, but all I see is upscaling of the levels of cancer. As if the first game wasn't a big enough steaming dump on tolkien, I dont get how even casual lotr fans can stand the story being rewritten like a rebooted anime series. which is just even harder to stand considering the cease and desist orders that super faithful mods have gotten to "protect the IP". I blame the hobbit films.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: njames89 on March 09, 2017, 02:57:14 pm
It looks pretty fun. I remember really enjoying the series of LOTR games released on the ps2. Forget what they were called.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: njames89 on March 09, 2017, 03:13:41 pm
Yes I just looked it up and those were the ones! Didn't realize they were movie tie ins. Really fun games single player and coop.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: IR_Kuoin on March 09, 2017, 03:47:32 pm
Return of the King was the only game of those 3 movie games worth getting though due to being the only one having co-op, I have all the games but that's the one me and my brother spent WAY too much time playing, actually re-played the whole game co-op a few months ago. It also has very good bonus levels that's basically wave defense / tower climbing with enemies etc.
Back when movie games were usually pretty decent, like that Narnia game, it was basically reskin of the LOTR games. James Bond games were also good, mostly.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: njames89 on March 09, 2017, 03:49:24 pm
Definitely remember the third one the most but I recall enjoying the other 2 as well
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Jona on March 09, 2017, 04:57:39 pm
Same, played it again the other month and as an epic troll move when we got to the Black Gate level I chose lvl1 Gimli as my character. It was a struggle...
Star Wars episode 3 game was great too.
And Bond games are still the only PS2 games I'm aware of that ever made use of the PS2 multi-tap that allowed 4 player coach multiplayer, that was great. Agent under Fire had really fun multiplayer, and Nightfire is a classic - that sweet 1-shot Oddjob hat. The campaign for Nightfire was hard tho, too many beautiful civilians to kill and fail your mission over...
Agent under fire definitely allowed for less competitive fun times back in the day, while nightfire was all down to business. Low gravity + grappling hooks + town level with the church = all out mayhem where everyone is fighting over the photon canon that spawns in the sewer/canal. The best things about nightfire were definitely oddjobs hat and being able to sneak across the gondola wire on that one map to capture the enemy's flag. Was able to pull this off multiple times in one game and the peasants who weren't in the know were so confused as they were watching "all the entrances" and never once saw me.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Jona on March 09, 2017, 07:49:11 pm
The other map/gametype that was great was 'Protect the VIP' where an NPC gets off a train and fucks around for a while before getting on another train, that was difficult because the VIP was too fun to kill even when it was your turn to guard him.
Literally think that my friend and I just always teamed up (despite being on opposing teams) to try and kill the VIP in the funniest way possible every single time. And yep, the grappling hooks in that game were too fun. In nightfire you could only use them on certain hooks hanging from ceilings/walls in convenient places... totally lame and not worth using.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Oberyn on March 09, 2017, 09:06:49 pm
Shit game for spastics was shit, I expect this one to be just as bad. Boring and easy, impossible to die, moronic AI, button smashing as a replacement for tactics, the "story" is best left of unspoken. Typical console fare.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2017, 08:15:08 am
Shit game for spastics was shit, I expect this one to be just as bad. Boring and easy, impossible to die, moronic AI, button smashing as a replacement for tactics, the "story" is best left of unspoken. Typical console fare.
You're a shit spastic.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Xant on March 10, 2017, 08:44:22 am
Shit game for spastics was shit, I expect this one to be just as bad. Boring and easy, impossible to die, moronic AI, button smashing as a replacement for tactics, the "story" is best left of unspoken. Typical console fare.
Shhhh, everything's going to be alright
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Oberyn on March 10, 2017, 11:25:46 am
https://youtu.be/6AV9W2ZdmjU?t=593
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Ikarus on March 10, 2017, 11:47:07 am
I wouldn't call it cheesy to spam 1 button over and over again when it's in line with the design decision.
It's the player's decision to play like this. Just because it's possible doesn't mean you should do it. Just because rolfcopter spears were possible in crpg doesn't mean you should be a dick and play like that. :P
Shadow of Mordor had a lot more options when fighting than spam and it's your own fault if you don't use them. You're missing out on really nice combat when you don't. Your choice. Same goes for the Nemesis system a lot of people criticised as bland and boring. It is if you just go about and slay them all. If you actually start using all the options it was offering, it was brilliant imo.
Was the game perfect? No. Was it shit? No. It had lot of new stuff compared to other games. Just took a little effort from the player to actually get there.
But hey, it's Oberyn... :lol:
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Oberyn on March 10, 2017, 02:01:13 pm
The game and the combat system has the depth of a puddle on a sidewalk. Unsurprised that Molly can find enjoyment in it years after release, though. Makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2017, 05:14:42 pm
The game and the combat system has the depth of a puddle on a sidewalk. Unsurprised that Molly can find enjoyment in it years after release, though. Makes perfect sense.
Just because you didn't understand and see the available options in it, does not make it bad. :shrug:
...but hey, 1h cav in crpg was really deep tho, huh?
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Ikarus on March 10, 2017, 07:41:40 pm
Just because you didn't understand and see the available options in it, does not make it bad. :shrug:
...but hey, 1h cav in crpg was really deep tho, huh?
Compared to this shit? Yes, it's practically rocket science. Lol at comparing multiplayer Warband to something as shallow as this lowest common denominator retard kiddie console tripe. I don't remember you ever being even slightly good at any class, Molly. I can see why a game that handholds and coddles you this much would be such a favorite.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Leshma on March 10, 2017, 08:09:25 pm
I tried 1h cav and I sucked at it, so either it´s not as easy as you say or I just really damn suck at it
People think 1hcav is easy but it is pretty hard to master. Elmer had some strange hybrid build which wasn't great at any specialization but he was one hell of 1hcav. His build was 1hcav/HA.
To be good 1hcav you need to be exceptional lancer, because knowing your reach and having excellent timing is by far the most important thing. Also you need to be sneaky bastard who always comes from behind. Shorter the cav weapon, more skill it takes to be good with it. I was always terrible at lancing, which translates to being terrible 1hcav as well.
1h footmen, especially with STR build, now that is easy mode if you ask me.
Edit: Why are we even comparing this game for simpletons to a game like Warband which is delicate as it gets?
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on March 10, 2017, 08:19:17 pm
WB cancel Shadow of War Oberyn isnt going to buy it, lifs ober mednard.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Molly on March 10, 2017, 09:11:09 pm
Compared to this shit? Yes, it's practically rocket science. Lol at comparing multiplayer Warband to something as shallow as this lowest common denominator retard kiddie console tripe. I don't remember you ever being even slightly good at any class, Molly. I can see why a game that handholds and coddles you this much would be such a favorite.
Yes, being really good and awesome in a multiplayer game like Warband is something to gloat and brag with. You seem to really lead a miserable little life if that is something you even remotely consider as achievement.
Well, since you need something for your ego, it seems...
Yes Oberyn, you were a really strong and deadly warrior in that niche MP mod! You're a very good person through it! Be proud of yourself!
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Oberyn on March 10, 2017, 09:45:33 pm
M-"This game is totally deep and has amazing combat system, this is why I played it for years" O-"No its shit" M-"HOW DARE YOU. This game is amazing and I will insult anyone that says otherwise1!!What, like Warband 1h cav is that much harder?" O-"Yes, and you sucked quite badly at it, so clearly it was harder" M-"Omg pathetic fuck so proud of being good at a video game lol, get a life"
:lol:
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Xant on March 10, 2017, 11:46:57 pm
That guy is retarded, for so many reasons. One of them being that he brags about how he's "invincible and killing shit" when he activates a special ability that's 20 seconds of free rampaging by just pressing F. "Omg look I got the rhythm down!" There is no fucking rhythm because the whole point of that (tier 5, and it is pretty OP so I rarely use it) ability is that you can just spam F and kill people once you have charged it.
He's trying his hardest to be negative, and isn't making any sense. "Oh look I can just left click- oh I'm being attacked so I have to right click, uh, wait, how do I make that seem gay too.. uh... I could block even though I already started attacking! Oh, I can just left click hahah- uh, this guy has a shield, better jump over him, but let's say it in a sarcastic edgy voice so it sounds like I didn't have to do anything again."
He also does get hit, more than a few times, and he has ALL the combat upgrades. And no mention of how you can't left click berserkers, and he's not fighting any bosses, etc etc. The whole over-the-top sarcastic voice and disingenuous presentation showcases his autism better than the flaws of SoMordor's combat system.
And of course the retard is playing with combat prompts enabled, which makes it ten times easier, and still complains about it.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Ikarus on March 11, 2017, 02:36:08 am
The combat system may be cool to play, but it´s surely not as challenging as MaB/Dark Souls or similar games as proven in the video. That doesn´t automatically make it a bad game though, some people do enjoy that
you two just have different tastes, and you know that taste isn´t debatable (which 4chan still hasn´t figured out yet #superiortaste). But you two may fight on in this thread-pitfight if you want, I´ll just munch popcorn with all the others here. And hey, shadow of war isn´t even out yet, so we can´t say for sure if they stick 100% to the old combat system. You know the drill: wait and drink tea and look at other stuff in the meantime until the game is out.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2017, 03:48:19 am
Dunno, pretty sure you could slaughter specific Warband NPCs en masse too just by spamming one key while blindfolded if you did the same thing as that guy.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Renay on March 12, 2017, 09:47:40 pm
Most important one: 13. Talion will get his beard back.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on May 21, 2017, 02:29:36 am
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on June 06, 2017, 01:42:32 am
At least its only a month and a half delay. :( https://www.gamespot.com/articles/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-release-date-delayed/1100-6450488/?bt_alias=eyJ1c2VySWQiOiAiN2Q3ZDE2YzktYzQ2OS00ZmFiLThlOTctYmIyYTgwYjg4ZjdkIn0%3D&utm_medium=email&utm_source=weekly_newsletter&utm_campaign=20160510
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Asheram on August 12, 2017, 02:10:44 am
Micro transactions and Ranked multiplayer what could go wrong with that lol.
Title: Re: Shadow of War
Post by: Taser on August 12, 2017, 02:23:45 am
Multiplayer?
W0t. Well great that means its going to be shit. Esp with microtransactions.