chadz you and the Donkey crew have my full support in whatever you do. Sorry to see that this has not panned out the way you and we all would have liked.
Keep your head up and keep us informed with whatever your next projects are.
chadz can you tell us who actually exactly left + esp what happened back then with Nessaj ?
BTW I'm not giving any time to that fucking company that has no fucking respect and steal the jobs of people with dreams. :mad:nonever and rabbit must work for GMG they both down voted you lol
Already uninstalled. Hardly I will ever launch okam.
Whole situation is strange and disappointing. Maybe you could have inform us at least here, not keeping silence for 5 months.
So here we are, once again broke, once again at the beginning.
Does that stop us?
Nope.
This somehow reminds me of Chris Roberts and his game "Freelancer". Another man with a vision.That's where OKaM failed- they didn't sell enough ships err I means horses before it was released. :P(click to show/hide)
That's where OKaM failed- they didn't sell enough ships err I means horses before it was released. :PThey´re just past the "freelancer" step now, it will take some years until they reach the "star citizen" step. Then they´ll of course sell plenty of highpoly rounceys, coursers and destriers for their upcoming project "castle peasant" :lol: jk
Never forget :wink:
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They still have rights to the engine, right? While all the assets like textures, models, mechanics, programming and even OKAM's concept might technically be property of the publisher, I can't really imagine Donkeys not being allowed to use the engine they made from scratch. Having the engine, it should be a lot easier and faster to develop a new game.
I understand your frustration, but you're not being very christian.
Never forget :wink:
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It says 'several others of the team left', right?
Which could very well mean that - for example - cmp sticks around for engine coding.
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It says 'several others of the team left', right?
Which could very well mean that - for example - cmp sticks around for engine coding.
Why the fuck is everyone acting like they are innocent? What the fuck? You guys fucked up at the end of cRPG and you fucked up with OKAM.
They still have rights to the engine, right? While all the assets like textures, models, mechanics, programming and even OKAM's concept might technically be property of the publisher, I can't really imagine Donkeys not being allowed to use the engine they made from scratch. Having the engine, it should be a lot easier and faster to develop a new game.
For fuck's sake just buy bannerlord license and make strategus mod on it when it comes out. Like those other retarded mods for warband - with fire and sword, napleon and other crap.Plus blackjack and whores, please.
If chadz and co are Wireless Warlock ( AKA Donkey Crew ) they fired themselves? i truely dont understand.
Maybe go for a sandboxy spacegame next?
Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember a talk about some space themed game by chadz, many years ago. Of course it couldn't have gone anywhere but i'm wondering for my own sanity if I am completely imagining it or was there something?
Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember a talk about some space themed game by chadz, many years ago. Of course it couldn't have gone anywhere but i'm wondering for my own sanity if I am completely imagining it or was there something?
I would love to get my hands on a bannerlord c-rpg mod, maybe you could make it pay2play? I mean paying 15 $ for a great mod which would give me another 4k playtime would be a fair price, but I don't know if it is possible since TaleWorlds are the one deciding if we could actually buy mods for bannerlord or not. Heck, I don't even know if you guys even planned to bring out a c-rpg like mod for bannerlord, but still would be great if you do so.
We'll probably hear news about Bannerlord in a month (GDC 2017) but I don't expect alpha during 2017.I wouldn't get your hopes up for gdc, Taleworlds isn't on the list of companies that will be there.
I wouldn't get your hopes up for gdc, Taleworlds isn't on the list of companies that will be there.fuck
I am still hoping for M:BG to be released soon.And I'm still hoping for Yuhmaz to come and teach you a lesson or two soon.
What happens to the 50 Euro investments? The game still sold copies, how many were sold? Who now honours the investment?
Go to early backers forum to ask these kind of questions.
PS. I can finally delete my okam forum account
crpg 2 for bannerlord confirmed.
chadz is a modern day snake oil salesman without an ounce of talent, if any of you are delusional enough to believe that this isn't due to his and the entire teams incompetence and lack of work ethic you're insanely naive.
Is there already a plan for you chadz? What are you going to do?
I just hope chadz didn't cut off his own nose to spite his face. Saying "you either sack us all or none of us" is the sort of thing I can imagine him saying. I really can't imagine Warlock Wireless being so daft to purge them all, especially chadz. I still can't really believe it. There must be some shenanigans involves from the Donkeys or are the investors just that clueless? At the least they should have kept chadz on board. If chadz left because some of his team were getting axed he should be ashamed for killing oKaM and maybe its not too late. Send in a job application chadz. Mend some bridges and go back to work on Epic
Its not fair to speculate when they can't talk about it, but it still seems really fishy to me
It's really not worth speculating since it depends on so many things we don't know. Were GMG and WW at all interested in a good game or just quick money? When did they show their real face? Was Steam EA forced? Was early Epic release forced? What were they demanding & what incidents happened that made chadz & co to decide to give up on their project they worked on for the last six years? etc. pp.Considering that this Irish Film Making thing was involved with financial support, I am not sure that theories about 'quick money grab' really hold up. Just feels 'wrong'. But maybe that's the trick in making money.
Also why do you think investors are clueless? Depending on their intended goal they did a great job in making most profit in shortest time. Of course this is speculation too, but there are strong hints.
I just hope chadz didn't cut off his own nose to spite his face. Saying "you either sack us all or none of us" is the sort of thing I can imagine him saying. I really can't imagine Warlock Wireless being so daft to purge them all, especially chadz. I still can't really believe it.Why? Quite a logical step from the Product Owner side, if he blames development for the current failed state of the project.
NDA is quite serious thing :rolleyes:
500 million dollar serious, in case of Oculus VR vs Zenimax :wink:
No one tends to fuck with NDA's unless you have a very good lawyer and crap load of moneyYes, but:
Lets say Warlock Wireless have tried to meddle and push the development a way the Donkey's weren't happy with. If you cared so much about your game would you want to leave the fate of it 100% in their hands? I think it would be logical to stay on the team even if you weren't happy with the direction its going because at least then you would have some control. Now they have none at all.I think they given 100% of it in their hands when signed that contract - "accept a deal - one that involved giving away the majority ownership, and therefore voting power, of the project we worked on for many years". And at some cases there is no more point to stay in such situation - for what sake? By your own arms drive project in wrong way and not having even a possibility to change something? Cut off features from your own game, because you have been told to, and can't change shit? And then, moreover, take all the responsibility for it before the community, because, look, before all this collapsed, no one even know that WW are in charge now - everyone blames chadz only. Maybe, it is WW who decide to postpone and keep quiet epic for undefined time - but still DC and mostly chadz took all the rage from community.
It sounds more likely that they were forced out imo, rather than having a disagreement on the direction. If they were forced out why would they keep some no name coders on board? You would keep at least some people experienced with the game. Why would Warlock Wireless want 0% of the Donkies? So then I go back to some getting laid off and then they all end up deciding to go rather than be split apart. Which to me would be pretty sadWell, yes, they were forced out, except not "rather than", but "because of" they "having a strong disagreement on the direction" and it's the reason of development team demarche in my opinion. I can't see any other particular reason beside. Not enough money? Just develop the game further, and eventually you will have tons of it. DC do not know how and in fact could not done f.e. epic with this engine etc.? Then unlikely some "outside" dev could, what the point to continue project at all?
Yes, but:
WW and chadzs ended up being him kicked out either forced to leave his own beloved project that he created, started and developed for years - any could goes worse for him at this point? :D :rolleyes:
If the house is burning, let the barn burn as well :D
Did that before it was cool..Amateur. I got my Leshma account deleted on those forums in the first day.
tbh the okam development almost couldn't go any worse during ea than it was going, so i guess the donkey team was just fired; if i had my money in it i'd do the same. i suspect that chadz and maybe some others are autists - really the communication skills towards the gaming community and promises were one big nonexistant lol (except for pogosan). well it always has been this way, but maybe just only this time, just only when they started to really sell the game, only that little time one would expect a little difference LUL.
tbh the okam development almost couldn't go any worse during ea than it was going, so i guess the donkey team was just fired; if i had my money in it i'd do the same. i suspect that chadz and maybe some others are autists - really the communication skills towards the gaming community and promises were one big nonexistant lol (except for pogosan). well it always has been this way, but maybe just only this time, just only when they started to really sell the game, only that little time one would expect a little difference LUL.
Wow, people are all over that update thread. Look how many posts there are and how quickly the interested community were posting after the update was announced.Everyone is busy playing...
(So much posting in the last 24 hours, wowee)
I hope so as well it is horrible to go read the OKAM forums like nails on a chalkboard. I am very glad that these forums somehow got unbanned at my work.
(Boss is secret crpg fanatic most likely)
I hope you're proud of yourself Taser, when you said hi to me on the OKAM forums you doubled the number of people responding on the patch thread.
Now it's getting out of hand, there's like... 5 comments on that thread! Can Pogo moderate that kinda insane traffic? Can anyone?
Imagine a world where a cRPG patch is announced on this forum (even now) at midday and nobody comments on it or expresses any interest for over 12 hours, and then only 2 people do, and then a day or two later Taser says 'hi Heskey' on it and necros the already-dead patch thread.
So the ending of 'Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey' but with buff naked anime men instead of rock and roll?Delete your signature or I'm going to have to litigate
What happened to your Okam forum account, Heskey?He deleted it.
'that means you might look at doing The Epic later right?'
I can't say when yet, but I can tell that nothing was abandoned or cancelled and is still very much a desired goal
We discuss Epic internally, we love the idea but we need to be realistic about the deliverables in the short and mid term. It is not forgotten, but the shape, name and exact format to which it may take form in the furture will need to be thought about very very carefully
we definitely want to have it in the game, but can't say much about it until we're sure the team can handle such huge task
Honestly, from the very beginning I was highly skeptical about this project. Some friends of mine know my thoughts, but I never expressed them on forums to do no harm with starting the pointless forum wars. My main suspicion was - how many things and features donkey team could carry out of those that they have announced in this topic (http://forum.melee.org/general/melee-battlegrounds-faq/). I mean, as an artistic person irl, I know that many things you imagine to do when you start your project, then drop off simply because you have not enough skill/time/budget/patience to do them all. So, there is (not always) a huge difference between your initial idea, and the final result.
16 dollars for your time spent in cRPG leeching like a loser. Not sad about that part but I would be if I backed the game up when you could invest as an investor, before the KS campaign.
Anyone still pumping money into OKAM dev. time is clearly out of touch with reality if he / they hope to see profit from it.
I don't know why any of you ever thought they'd be able to pull off what they promised. They were promising things that AAA studios wouldn't be able to do, with minimal experience and a tiny team, while being completely beholden to their investors because they have no money of their own.
The feature list read like a four year old's wish list after they just learn of Santa Claus, just pile on everything you can think of.
@Ouki I can't say when yet, but I can tell that nothing was abandoned or cancelled and is still very much a desired goal, the only thing we can't do is officially say that it is 100% coming, because there are way too many things that could block it
Jericho, who's a project lead, said so himself
@Ouki We discuss Epic internally, we love the idea but we need to be realistic about the deliverables in the short and mid term. It is not forgotten, but the shape, name and exact format to which it may take form in the furture will need to be thought about very very carefully. For now we want to concentrate making the best game we can.Well, that's specific and reassuring. Epic isn't forgotten, but they haven't even discussed it yet, and the final product will have a different name, shape and format. That is, it will be something completely different. But they totally love the idea and it's not abandoned.
So they won't tell the truth because it wouldn't be good "marketing"? Telling flat out lies is ok as long as it brings in the cash is the company policy, apparently.
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginHow long does it take a "marketing TEAM" to replace a few paragraphs?
apparently scamming is a better solution :)
How long does it take a "marketing TEAM" to replace a few paragraphs?
Perhaps they really like the page and the text it has currently, and will not forget about it, but they have to discuss it internally first, and it will return at some point with a new name, format and shape.
blahDamn, you showed him good there!
[...]...because it is something utterly normal occurring in every day life all the freaking time?
why would I not find that incredibly amusing?
...because it is something utterly normal occurring in every day life all the freaking time?
Technically there is no need to change the description of The Epic because it's still coming outI think you're getting ahead of yourself, they need to first discuss it internally and figure out whether any of them know how to make video games before they can promise to deliver The Epic with a different name, shape and format.(click to show/hide)
as a women im sure you can relate to that shit.
I think you're getting ahead of yourself, they need to first discuss it internally and figure out whether any of them know how to make video games before they can promise to deliver The Epic with a different name, shape and format.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Fun fact, they could call this picture The Epic and Pogosan would've still been telling the truth:
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New name: banana
New format: JPG
New shape: Banana-shaped.
Each post is trying to be that 'boom, I'm telling it like it is then I'm outa here' post,
some spinning lunatic
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You always know just what to say Plumbo
Its like some sort of wrestler talking big shit on the mic for the upcoming fight or something. Someone should record themselves reading plumbo posts in a generic wrestler voice.
love the idea, but then people would actually have to read the shit, apparently most of you cant even make it to the finish line. since when was reading a paragraph so hard?
illiterate fucks.
if not heskey, someone out there always wants to talk shit. so, lets talk.
i'm better at mountain blade than ui'd mount your blade
i date ur mother`s buthole
also i'm better at mountain blade than u
pff im canadian bruh, my mums a lumberjack, ur fucking mothers FAT!
ooooh i wanna duel u though, set up a (an?) time man. est4me, rusty as fuck too, so your aussie ping having ass might stand a chance...for a few seconds at least.
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I actually had hopes that the devs would at least create a good core game, but then inevitably patch it into turdmode like cRPG. I've been hearing about many other games suffering the same fate, community input is too big that the devs patch their games down into shadows of their prime. Donkey Crew always had that issue, so i think even if OKAM wouldve kept on developing, it probably wouldve been degrading at the same time.cRPG became worse the more it departed from base Warband, it was at its best when it had the RPG elements but was largely unchanged otherwise.
cRPG became worse the more it departed from base Warband, it was at its best when it had the RPG elements but was largely unchanged otherwise.
This so much. cRPG got progressively more shit and this is just in terms of normal combat mechanics, as if everything you performed had a delay, compared to Native.Even things that ostensibly made sense, like the collision with ground when your weapon hits it, actually just made for frustrating deaths because the combat wasn't designed with that in mind and it bugged out a lot. A ton of changes like that (plus some frankly weird decisions like changing kick because Paul kept dying in duels to it) made for a way worse game than native.
my mums a lumberjack
http://forum.ofkingsandmen.net/index.php/topic,2463.0.htmlLOL, oh you Pogosan. "Looking into possibilities of including it." :lol:
First rate 'marketing' right there. Very proud.
-> refund
-> bad review
you're like the last guy to figure out how they get the caramel into caramilk bars, and now that you know, you wanna tell the world about your magnificent discovery. everyone else might think its cute but im all like "fuck off kid everyone knows that shit"
EDIT, I completely misread your question...are you asking how the caramel gets inside, or are you actually trying to convince me you have never heard of a universally known and recognized candy bar?
Ok, to be fair it's not like the guy posting it is new. It's someone who's familiar with the community and general 'meta' of their false advertising.You can also tell because he has the Sr. Member title and 427 posts.
You can tell because the forum hasn't had any new accounts created in the last week.
So many things I think are international staples turn out to just be in Canada. I still can't believe there is no Swiss Chalet in the USA...
I am always fascinated by learning about the lives of peasants from third world countries
Please tell me more about your lackluster dining experiences you poor wretched creature
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/02/24/cadburys-caramilk-bars-are-not-chocolate-department-of-national-defence-staffer-asserts.html
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/02/24/cadburys-caramilk-bars-are-not-chocolate-department-of-national-defence-staffer-asserts.html
East Side Marios
If you peasants need to rely on good toppings to have a good pizza, then your pizza is frankly shit.
Should mentally ill / retarded people be allowed to raise children?
The one thing I have learned from all my time playing cRPG is that the community is always capable of disappointing me more.This may be the edgiest signature I've ever seen
Fuck chadz, Fuck Tydouche, Fuck Dupre\Rico, Fuck Chaos, Fuck Weshouldservebeer, Fuck Arowaine, Fuck Relit.
Fuck CRPG, Fuck OKAM. Fuck Donkey Crew.
Fuck most of you, I could really care less if I ever run into to anyone of you people ever again.
Most of you are complete shit.
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.
This may be the edgiest signature I've ever seen
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What can you say about the new DTF/invasion mode update?
I still have a positive review on OKAM :twisted:
The forum truly is dead barring a smug anime face thread that 1 person started and is posting in, and Ramses posting the other day to have a regular event added, then asking for leniency if nobody shows up, then happily posting about the nice apology he received from project lead because the skirmish server didnt work for his event and nobody had noticed beforehand because noone plays.
If you find your way into Discord or communication with the team James, maybe you should ask them what they think about the recent Steam reviews despite all their great new updates that the people truly wanted! Feel free to use my post for reference if you need to prove that the 1 positive review in the last 30 days was likely a missclick.
Nah I am actually trying to be positive in Discord because I feel so bad for themI mean, that'd be understandable and all, if they weren't literally scamming people. And their excuse for that is that it wouldn't be good marketing to not scam people.
I mean, that'd be understandable and all, if they weren't literally scamming people. And their excuse for that is that it wouldn't be good marketing to not scam people.
Can someone take cRPG files and make a mod just like cRPG, ty.Maybe call it my old friendmanchadzv2
It should be completely possible, right? And we would have one single server located in St.Helena so EU and NA play together
The OKaM forum is even more boring/dead than the OKaM game.Indeed it is. Have been posted a gif recently, yet no one gives a like for it :(
I did honestly enjoy the combat quite a lot compared to maybe even native combat.
I invested a lot into that forum, all for naught. But i'll return if it gets some dope updates, ive not yet given up, just put it on a longer hold than expected. I did honestly enjoy the combat quite a lot compared to maybe even native combat.
Swedish bundle of sticks.
BIG BIG BIG! Update in the WORKS! guys ! : ) Soon new info will be put forth AND MAYBE steam page will get updated to show what is actually available : )))
New roadmap soon can't wait to show u ;)
That is actually planned believe it or not they made an announcement on discord about forum maintenance
That's probably more accurate than you'd think.Maybe they would run into legal troubles with Steam if they change the appearance and features too drastically at once. So they decided to take their time to phrase it very very carefully and in a legally non-harmful way that 90% of the promised features are canceled without replacement in any form?
It does beg the question, if it's as hard as they have claimed to replace the roadmap and related information on Steam with the truth, how have they been deciding what to develop over the last 5 months?
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Here's the mindblowing thing.An Indian programming army is actually behind the project now...
If the new team are employees of Warlock Wireless Ltd then they're subject to minimum wage laws. there's no way the minuscule trickle of income from current sales covers that alone. But maybe they're working on one of those 'self-employed' models where they're technically not employees or entitled to anything, but still have to work like one.
Or maybe this is volunteer work only. Based on one of the old Discord conversations it was clear Pogo didnt really know how many hours each member of the new team were dedicating to this project on an average day, or whether this was their only project.
Oooo the bastards. The latest update is called "Nobles and Musicians".
Awesome! I know what you're thinking, this seems to harken back to the idea of player-driven interactions and self-appointed 'classes' as discussed as part of the open world right back at the beginning! I cant wait to see wh...
Oh... literally all the changes are to the 'last stand' mode vs bots... I guess they're all in on making this a game where 1 - 5 players can fight waves of bots.
I shit you not they added a population meter to the game that lists population as medium when there are 7 people online.
Ah so this is where you got this information Heskey. "Reliable source" pff.Game is objectively shit and dead - has nothing to do with hating. Only as in hating shit games which are shit...
Anyway, don't let me spoil the mood. Happy hating.
Your opinion of it being shit is nothing but an opinion.At least Bannerlord will be released at some point. Something I do not even see happening for OKAM.
My opinion is the Okam has objectively better combat mechanics than WB and is more promising than Bannerlord right now.
If you try to look at it objectively (hard I know), Okam has better combat mechanics and holds more promise.
If you changed a road that used to turn left so that it now only turns right, people would stop turning left. It would make no sense to react the same way to a situation that has been altered.
When a feature is being worked on with an uncertain deadline, patience is a reasonable response.
When a feature is not being worked on at all, patience is not a reasonable response.
I dont think the timeframe for our change in reaction is particularly significant, it matches perfectly with the timeframe the scenario was changed. We went from un-enthused in January to angry in February, and it's stayed consistently at that level since as our lowest expectations have been consistently met.
A right turn in the road is a right turn, regardless of anything else it used to be. Cant blame the drivers for turning right when they encounter it.
Ramses do you still need that banner? :)
ROFL you guys were real supportive when NASA was making a mission to Mars, but you all showed your true colours when they started making a submarine. - I'm still trying to understand what's hilarious about the fact you're just now learned that people react differently to a different set of circumstances. Well done for noticing?
But it's just that, it's your beliefs.
tl;dr all Ramses posts.
Probably calls everyone in disagreement a 'snowflake' and tries to sell his personal opinion as 'facts'.
Been there, seen it, boring.
@Vibe You're still talking about economics, whether you call it financial feasibility or ability to make more money. That is all still economy. I talked about promise for me as a mp game. We can continue to talk past each other all day long, or you can engage with my argument.
As for the information on both steam and the website, I've been lobbying for months for the devs to change, what have you been doing? Sitting in this forum, circle-jerking eachother on how horrible the game is? Move on or do something about it, I can't stand empty whining.
And aye, its my belief. But its based on objective factors, unlike most of the criticism I'm hearing from you and the people in this forum. "I've heard from several players" - is not objective at all. Also, if I'm wrong about these objective factors, I'm willing to change my belief. Can you truly claim the same? If so, challenge me on the objective side of the game and lets see if you have thought out or examined the roots of your beliefs.
I paid for the game, I reserve all the right to shit on it as much as I want.
tl;dr all Ramses posts.
Probably calls everyone in disagreement a 'snowflake' and tries to sell his personal opinion as 'facts'.
Been there, seen it, boring.
Youre just getting yourself caught in the witch hunt Ramses. Dont bother with any sort of middle ground at the moment, the 180 turn of the playerbase is really enhanced with how hyped up it got.
It never felt restricted to me because it was new and its own thing.
Read the word "clunky" a couple of times and that has always been my biggest issue with OKAM. It looks clunky, it feels clunky and even the controls are not as intuitive as advertised but clunky in certain situations.
All that equals for me into a bad game, a game not installed anymore and a game I'll only ever touch again if they ever happen to include the Epic (which is as unlikely as being hit by lightning imo).
High tier Warband combat is all about animation abuse. You might think it's a good thing that you can't roflcopter stab in OKAM "cos realism !", but to me it feels like a restriction. Turn-rate is definitely slower and attack angles can only be adjusted marginally compared to Warband. I spent at least 100 hours on OKAM and did not once feel like the additional attack directions added any complexity to the game, because blocking was so easy anyway. Warband has some pretty bullshit feinting, but it has created a unique PvP experience that can be pretty complex at high levels.
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As for the information on both steam and the website, I've been lobbying for months for the devs to change, what have you been doing? Sitting in this forum, circle-jerking eachother on how horrible the game is? Move on or do something about it, I can't stand empty whining.
[...]
Had a little communication with 'someone' yesterday as well...(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
:twisted:
Mate how retarded can you be?
Mate how retarded can you be?
If you're trying to sell something, or want to ever surpass that mighty 20% positive review threshold ever again, then it absolutely matters what the majority think. It's hilarious that it's retards like you that are advising the dev team now "pfff, who cares what the popular opinion is, that's just 'ad populum'".
You can sit alone in your server (at 'medium' server population - because there's 1 whole person) and jerk your dick over the combat in your empty game all you like, and be glad you didnt succumb to the idiotic opinions of all of your consumers.
No, you've been rubbing them on the back going "there there, the mean reviews will stop someday". Y'see when the rest of us see criminal behaviour with regards to the marketing and sale of their game, we get pretty annoyed at the team in general until that behaviour stops. Whereas you softly point out how naughty it is and continue jerking their dicks, cos that'll encourage them to sort their shit out! You're such a hero!
You keep trying to circumvent that part of why people hate your shit game by saying "I also think they should update their content, now let's move on and stop talking about how criminal it is." But people wont stop saying it till the team sorts their shit out, maybe they'd have done it already if you hadnt been jerking their dicks the whole time.
That's more people than have posted on your forum in the last month. You dont have a community you have a mailing list.
is 'Strategic Map' the Epic in a different format, under a different name, in different shape?(click to show/hide)
focusing on whats going to bring the players back :lol:
Please tell me you're the one that wrote that review lol. For the longest time it was the only positive one listed under 'recent'.
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focusing on whats going to bring the players back :lol:
If they were cash bought that would increase the chances of the game ever being finished if you were interested in that result.
The big gambles are the only ones worth taking.
- Put everything on even (once wheel is already spinning)
- Win (guaranteed)
- Leave everything on even
- Win (99%)
- Cash out immediately
Doctors are furious, hurry before it gets taken down!
You guys are animals!! The fact that you agree with each other about a game being bad is just a massive circle jerk!!1! AD POPULUM!!
I'm gonna give them the benefit of doubt though, as these players might've been horrible.
Zimke installed a fatal flaw deep in the game just in case they were ever removed from the project. Something so subtle they would never find it...
His ultimate secret, as they motion-capped him for every single animation in the game...
...he doesnt move like a normal person.
their miniscule discord community
Where does all that energy to beat that dead donkey come from?
Where did you find this goldmine Vibe? Was it really on their Discord? I know the link is to discord, but this wonderful evidence that confirms everything we've been saying is just too good to be true.
When even the nicest guy on the internet says he doesnt like the game, you know it's bad.
God closes a door, also opens a window for you.
The movements are stiff, the characters too fake, and the techniques too esoteric.
I'd have agreed with you without hesitation if you said that a couple days ago, but starting yesterday he has told chadz that god has shit his his future prospects and wants him to commit sudoku a couple of times now.
@everyone Nightly is being updated with random Arena loot and other changes and fixes!
Main Changes
- Added XP for kills on The Arena.
- Added announcements when rare chests spawn.
- Added colors for announcements to easily see what chests spawn.
- Added new icons for HYG and The Arena.
- Added three new chests for The Arena - bronze, silver, and gold.
- Added banners for The Arena.
- Added chests with gold and items for The Arena.
- Reduced chest spawn time.
Bug Fixes
- Fixed kills and deaths not showing on The Arena.
- Fixed the camera bug when being hit while opening a chest.
- Fixed not being able to hit people who open chests.
- Fixed the progress bar for The Arena.
- Fixed names being visible in The Arena.
- Fixed not being able to see how many players are on The Arena.
- Fixed opening chests after being killed.
Two or even three weeks ago - I am not sure about the correct timeframe, let's settle on 'a whike ago' - I mentioned the issue of fraudulent advertisement (misleading is not a word strong enough) on the Store page. The answer was along the line "Soon. We are working on it."
I can't help but wonder how it is possible to only have this bad excuse of a preview road map ready after such a long time?
None of the content on the Store page is accurate. It is a 100% wrong. This should have been fixed months ago. Pushing the responsibility to the publisher is just a bad excuse.
Everyone involved in this project should be ashamed.
I will now look for a possibility to report the current situation to someone responsible at Steam/Valve and I can only urge others to do the exact same thing.
Every review with the word 'scam' inside is just a appropriate description of the current situation and well deserved.
Edit: I wanna inform you that I reported OKAM via the Store page as a Fraud. The following reasoning was attached to my report:
"The product description of this game is completely inaccurate.
Following the development closely since the beginning, I want to point out that the beginning dev-team has been completely replaced by the publisher.
Features described for the future development on the store page have been cancelled since months, made only known on the attached Discord channel but neither in the forum nor here on the store page.
These cancelled features are main incentives for a purchase.
This is fradulent advertisement."
What happend to chadz is horrible, but i don't get it why some people want the game they bought to die?It is a still birth (look Vibe, I paid attention!) and already dead.
Strong desire to reply to thread with only "I'm gay". Trying to resist oh gods give me strength I don't know if I can do it
It is a still birth (look Vibe, I paid attention!) and already dead.
We're merely - if even - beating a dead horse.
I do believe the new developers should be much more transparent and present a much more honest picture of the game in its current state, that said the way that some people have responded to these problems has been embarrassing to say the least.
Good lord, you can see how much more stiff and limited in movement and animation the game is.Sadly that reminds me of how much cRPG got fucked too. Once upon a time cRPG was actually smoother and faster than Native, as hard as that is to believe, those were good times. Longer they developed cRPG the worse the combat became. That's why I never had much faith in OKAM and didn't back it. Especially since the reason they made cRPG slower was defended by the supreme overlords with things like "lol so only people with super fast reflexes and 15 ping should be able to play??"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK2-WpGH6AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-oU2HozWEs
Hug, left side swing, right side swing, circle around, get a hit in. Those 8 attack directions sure came in handy. It's like they forgot to put the z dimension in. I'm gonna give them the benefit of doubt though, as these players might've been horrible.
Sadly that reminds me of how much cRPG got fucked too. Once upon a time cRPG was actually smoother and faster than Native, as hard as that is to believe, those were good times. Longer they developed cRPG the worse the combat became. That's why I never had much faith in OKAM and didn't back it. Especially since the reason they made cRPG slower was defended by the supreme overlords with things like "lol so only people with super fast reflexes and 15 ping should be able to play??"
Huge red flag for anyone interested in skill-based gameplay.
Cheers,
But now that Pogosan has given the minimum possible response to that thread he'll be ignoring it again. Fuckit, if they won't play nice i'll just take their servers out every time they have a scheduled community event.
[...]Ramses shared part of a Discord conversation yesterday with Dave from Greenmangaming[...]Any copypasta available to you? I'd like to read it...
Ramses - Today at 11:15 AM
hey @theworldofdavo , when will the information on steam and the website change? The team has been saying it would be changed since the beginning of April, when do we actually get there? Why is it taking so long?
will you continue to ignore questions regarding this matter, from me and others?
Siegbert - Today at 11:19 AM
I saw him beginning to type
but then the corporate part of his conciousness kicked in ^^(edited)
Ramses - Today at 11:20 AM
dunno what to do
clearly online(edited)
been ignoring my questions about this for weeks
theworldofdavo - Today at 11:21 AM
please hold
Ramses - Today at 11:21 AM
willing to chat about a bunch of other stuff, but not this
I will
theworldofdavo - Today at 11:23 AM
“When will the information on steam and the website change?”
I can’t confirm a date. I hope it’s soon, but it’s depending on some matters I can’t discuss or influence.
“The team has been saying it would be changed since the beginning of April, when do we actually get there?”
It still will be changed, but sadly timelines slip.
“Why is it taking so long?”
As flippant as this might sound, game development is very hard and again, with matters I can’t discuss, things have had to remain fluid at the moment.
“will you continue to ignore questions regarding this matter, from me and others?”
I / We have answered questions on this matter before, and there’s an element of when to say something - Do you want to hear the same thing I said last time, or would you like to hear something new? Sadly, this time, you’re going to hear the same messaging we’ve had before. I seriously can’t wait to talk more about it, nor can Pogosan, or the rest of the team.(edited)
Ouki - Today at 11:26 AM
Well thats a whole lot of nothing :smiley:
Siegbert - Today at 11:27 AM
It's less a question but more of a demand: change it already!
Celt`SerGoblinite - Today at 11:43 AM
@theworldofdavo ''"will you in any (way) compensate or apologize for the people who bought the game during the time the advertisement on steam and the website was faulty? Will you offer an explanation why it took so long?''
Would really like to know the answer to this question^(edited)
Ramses - Today at 11:44 AM
"Depending on some matters I can't discuss or influence" So I'm asking the worng person then. Who should I go to for answers if not you, pogosan or the dev team? Who are deciding these matters? You can't keep throwing the ball around, who's responsible?
"Game development is hard" I'm not asking about developing the game - I'm asking for changing a few lines of text on steam and the website. How can that be "very hard"?
"We have already answered" No you absolutely and resoundly have not.
1. Why oh why is it taking so long? The "game development is hard" excuse only takes you so far - we're not asking for radical changes in the game, we're asking for you to stop falsely advertising your product by correccting the information. This is nothing more than changes to a text.
2. Do you disagree with the critique that this is false advertising? Do you think you are in the right here?
3. "will you in any (way) compensate or apologize for the people who bought the game during the time the advertisement on steam and the website was faulty? Will you offer an explanation why it took so long?"
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theworldofdavo - Today at 11:46 AM
I wouldn't say exactly one person is responsible. That's more on the 'matters that can't really be discussed' catagory, I'm afraid.
Celt`SerGoblinite - Today at 11:46 AM
Answer 3rd question pls
Ramses - Today at 11:46 AM
someone has to be responsible at some end
someone or some group of people
theworldofdavo - Today at 11:47 AM
@Celt`SerGoblinite I can't really answer that question; that's a conversation that is very much above my station.
Celt`SerGoblinite - Today at 11:48 AM
Where can I get the answer from?
Ramses - Today at 11:48 AM
Now you're consistantly deflecting by avoiding respnsibility. You are the head of marketing in the company that owns Okam, are you not? If not you, who else?
Celt`SerGoblinite - Today at 11:49 AM
Il capo dei capi
: )))
lel
vanishes
Ramses - Today at 11:56 AM
and he goes away, just as we were getting somewhere
http://steamcommunity.com/games/430440/announcements/detail/1325595470131653034OKaM is SAVED! Crpg needs chests too. 😝
Give it another 6 months and there will be micro transactions.
Find treasure chests in hidden areas on the map, but oh don't forget you need to purchase one of these keys worth £2.99 but the rewards increase the more you buy!!!!!! EPIC COSMETIC ITEMS WITH HANDCRAFTED ENGRAVINGS XDXDXDXDX
I heard the chests are rumored to include the legendary coloured leather gloves Zimke was working on for 8 months
How to remove old negative attitude and overwhelming disappointment for newcomers to be oblivious of new devs and their shit? Simple, create new forum. http://ofkingsandmen.net/forum/visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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lol which one of you cheeky buggers did this. Well played.
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all those shit posts will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...
lol
lol
chadz : shhsbauxmsnmsponsnsossk :( ,we kinda stole ur money, others : snahskmsbsjasnsdnzıspwnns :(, ok.
U donkey friend u probably have foreseen at the first place that okam was unable to make profit in long term anyway,but u still hyped these cancerous people like heskey,to make them buy the game.Although u knew that u were going to stop developping the game in short time,u still made these retards like heskey buy it.Half deformed staggering gratesque bodies of players like Heskey marched the closest bank and let banks suck their money for ur stupid shitty game.I am defending the honour of my fellow players (not heskey),ur snorting doesn't have any effect on me you foul creature of 6th level of inferno,u are a goddamn disgrace, these people thought that u were their omnipotent savior,and got on ur ship ,not knowing u would leave them on a desolated island.Ass u read this long read this too, i lay ur mother to doggy,my dick is 3 inch wide,i gape ur mother's ass 2 inch wide,because i want her to suffer as i cram my dick,ass she screams from the pain her ass signals to her brain through nervous system,i put ur sunglassed swissburglardrinkingbeer.jpg picture in front of her with a metal stick i gaped ur mom's ass, just like a carrot in front of a donkey ,seeing ur picture gratifies her in front and my dick hurts her from back,in these ambivalent feelings ur mother goes back and forth losing sensibility,craves for ur pic tries to kiss u but i pull her back every time she flinches.After we done she says i wished chadz didn't made okam and forced me into this revenge ,and i agree trying to say smt nice : okam is still good though if u are autist like heskey.
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U donkey friend u probably have foreseen at the first place that okam was unable to make profit in long term anyway,but u still hyped these cancerous people like heskey,to make them buy the game.Although u knew that u were going to stop developping the game in short time,u still made these retards like heskey buy it.Half deformed staggering gratesque bodies of players like Heskey marched the closest bank and let banks suck their money for ur stupid shitty game.I am defending the honour of my fellow players (not heskey),ur snorting doesn't have any effect on me you foul creature of 6th level of inferno,u are a goddamn disgrace, these people thought that u were their omnipotent savior,and got on ur ship ,not knowing u would leave them on a desolated island.Ass u read this long read this too, i lay ur mother to doggy,my dick is 3 inch wide,i gape ur mother's ass 2 inch wide,because i want her to suffer as i cram my dick,ass she screams from the pain her ass signals to her brain through nervous system,i put ur sunglassed swissburglardrinkingbeer.jpg picture in front of her with a metal stick i gaped ur mom's ass, just like a carrot in front of a donkey ,seeing ur picture gratifies her in front and my dick hurts her from back,in these ambivalent feelings ur mother goes back and forth losing sensibility,craves for ur pic tries to kiss u but i pull her back every time she flinches.After we done she says i wished chadz didn't made okam and forced me into this revenge ,and i agree trying to say smt nice : okam is still good though if u are autist like heskey.
in these ambivalent feelings ur mother goes back and forth losing sensibility
chadz : shhsbauxmsnmsponsnsossk :( ,we kinda stole ur money, others : snahskmsbsjasnsdnzıspwnns :(, ok.
U donkey friend u probably have foreseen at the first place that okam was unable to make profit in long term anyway,but u still hyped these cancerous people like heskey,to make them buy the game.Although u knew that u were going to stop developping the game in short time,u still made these retards like heskey buy it.Half deformed staggering gratesque bodies of players like Heskey marched the closest bank and let banks suck their money for ur stupid shitty game.I am defending the honour of my fellow players (not heskey),ur snorting doesn't have any effect on me you foul creature of 6th level of inferno,u are a goddamn disgrace, these people thought that u were their omnipotent savior,and got on ur ship ,not knowing u would leave them on a desolated island.Ass u read this long read this too, i lay ur mother to doggy,my dick is 3 inch wide,i gape ur mother's ass 2 inch wide,because i want her to suffer as i cram my dick,ass she screams from the pain her ass signals to her brain through nervous system,i put ur sunglassed swissburglardrinkingbeer.jpg picture in front of her with a metal stick i gaped ur mom's ass, just like a carrot in front of a donkey ,seeing ur picture gratifies her in front and my dick hurts her from back,in these ambivalent feelings ur mother goes back and forth losing sensibility,craves for ur pic tries to kiss u but i pull her back every time she flinches.After we done she says i wished chadz didn't made okam and forced me into this revenge ,and i agree trying to say smt nice : okam is still good though if u are autist like heskey.
I laughed so hard I almost shit my pants the first time reading this. Once I finally understood how far gone of an attempt it was, I wasn't laughing anymore. I didn't know this level of autism existed.Ur an autism
This community spawned some of the greatest MS Paint artwork I've ever seen, maybe the new team can commission Kuoin to draw the map for them.
Pay Kuoin for 4 minutes of work and in 4 minutes you'll have an anime masterpiece that took 4 minutes to make.Here is one he did in his step up noobs thread, just in case the map won't fit on one.
Pay a member of the current team for 4 months of work and in 8 months you'll have something that took 4 minutes to make.
Ur an autism
Took so long for u to post smt near funny,u retard ,even if ur cum were cure for cancer no cancer girl would get laid with u.
Wouldn't they have to drink the cum? I'm sure he could sell it in vials or bottles.
It's a scam ! Don't ever buy it , I and lots of people were cheated by them. There are nothing in their gameplay ! They promise us about EPIC and keep it long enough for us can't get the refund back !
The only thing you can enjoy in this game is the fucking stupid music keep play again an again ! It's just a piece of shit!
But you have been reserved a clan on the oKaM forum, aren't you? So somewhere deep in your heart you still do believe in game...
KEY FEATURES
Our featured Strategic Map allows you to experience a real-time medieval war campaign set in a persistent world.
Meet and chat with fellow players in our Lobby. Socialize and get to know one another by choosing to play in fun modes, or risk you life by venturing into the wilderness in search of adventure.
I AM THE HARBINGER OF TURTH
http://forum.melee.org/realism-discussion/donkey-team-is-no-longer-spreading-hiv-aids/?topicseen
Currently active moderators don't have perma-mute,
And he logs in every single day when he's temp-muted to see if it's expired.
don't mind this sour fruit xesta,i am waiting for new mount and blade,then we can tf7 with u if u still some balls left
Vintage meme
Why yumaz hate so much heskey?Sadly,it is not hate love thing,for me that goes for cassi,he doesn't deserve being a human,he must have been a chimpazee,fish or cucumber,he probably sneaked into the human body chamber and stole a human body in the soul lobby where souls wait to get a body,before they born.It is fictituous u cunt i am not serious atm,u probably thought of mocking my way of thinking when u read this.
or is it a hate love?
Sadly,it is not hate love thing,for me that goes for cassi,he doesn't deserve being a human,he must have been a chimpazee,fish or cucumber,he probably sneaked into the human body chamber and stole a human body in the soul lobby where souls wait to get a body,before they born.It is fictituous u cunt i am not serious atm,u probably thought of mocking my way of thinking when u read this.
If the old forum or my old Steam review existed I'd challenge anyone to find a case of me going 180, or saying anything contradicting my current stance.
I've been wrong, sure, plenty of times. But my approach was always 'wait and see'. And the thing about a 'wait and see' approach is that eventually after waiting and seeing you are then allowed to form an opinion based on your observations, in fact that's kinda the expectation. Bugs me that people at the time read 'wait and see' as 'I'll follow you to the ends of the earth Donkey Crew', and I can't be a smug git and quote myself from a year ago because the old forum's gone.
I waited and I saw that it was not good.
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I participated in discussions of potential upcoming features (map, open world), I engaged with the community because it was this community, and I copy/pasted posts made by the dev team to answer newbie questions because there was a lot of misinformation and not a whole lot of community management. But I didn't make a judgement on 'game good'/'game bad'/'game fail'/'game success', because I was watching and waiting.You did also participate in balance discussions, one of them beign a thread on archery balance.
Balance discussions? Between 1v1 vs a bot or crashing to desktop I never had anything to add regarding the core combat mechanics. Although I did take issue with the 'make it exactly like Warband' argument, I believe ironically at the time I said 'let the team who came up with the game, make the game they want', can you see how my current view is still consistent with this now that a different team is making a different game? At best in terms of combat mechanics and proposed changes I copy/pasted statements already made by devs on a subject since there was a lot of misinformation and thread duplication at one point on the forum, and I deemed that more helpful than the usual "Use Search Function before posting" that others were in the habit of saying.Why do you have to be so disingenuous Heskey? You participated in a thread about archery balance where players like Jambi and Tobi (actual good archers) had legit concerns about the game. One of the concerns brought up by the players was that archers would get stuck in animation if they were hit in melee and unable to draw their secondary weapon, which you responded with telling them the issue must've been noticed by the devs and probably being fixed thus that complaint wasn't valid or pointless and didnt belong in the thread. This is straight up taking a stand in defense of the developers and in the same time downplaying people with criticism (btw that issue is still in the game and probably brushed aside or considered a feature lmao). But you know what? This is not really an issue, you could've geniunely thought that the issue was worked upon at the time also if the archery bug was the only complaint in the thread I'd agree with you that such a thing might not merit complaint especially if the issue is being worked upon. There being several duplicate threads and very repetetive complaints means that an issue like this might've been best approached like you did.
I did actively participate in a lot in threads talking about possible features and implementation of ideas for Open World/Strategic Map though, since I had a lot of interest in Open World games (and Strategus) at the time. Dont see how I've done a 180 there, if Dupre said he'd be bringing back Strategus tomorrow (or anyone said they were working on an Open World game) and wanted ideas/discussion I'd take part instantly.Yes those threads about the open world were perfectly suited and you did contribute to them no doubt I have no issue with that. In threads like that brainstorming and theory is more valuable since we dont have the open world out yet but threads you shouldn't have taken part of are combat threads since there's no point to speculation everything is grounded in the combat which is playable. I have to remind you again that you didnt play the game which meant you had no experience of the combat, no knowledge of it. You were completely ignorant of it and yet you decided to go to a thread about combat and give your input which would've amounted to nothing and also just so happened to be in favor of the devs.
You seem desperate to paint the picture that I ever once said the game in it's current state was good. You'll find I never did. So how can my current view contradict a view I've never expressed?I think people like you really should look into a mirror because when you point out supposed flaws in others you are just ironically describing yourself. I never said you claimed the game was good which you can still see in my post, what I said was that you defended its flaws from a point of ignorance while actively shitting on people with actual experience of the game which is in stark contrast with the image of you as a person who "waits and sees". So who is desperately trying to paint others here? You were the one who discredited players' arguments by simplifying them to "make it exactly like Warband". You are the guy who painted your opposition as irrational and stupid by bringing up Jambi (coincidentally one of the archers you argued with).
I did enjoy that Jambi took my 'An Admin Could You?' thread seriously as a desperate plea to be made admin. Including all my broken english, and a personal guarantee to never play the game and administer justice purely from an ivory tower.
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You did also participate in balance discussions, one of them beign a thread on archery balance.
Why do you have to be so disingenuous Heskey? You participated in a thread about archery balance where players like Jambi and Tobi (actual good archers) had legit concerns about the game. One of the concerns brought up by the players was that archers would get stuck in animation if they were hit in melee and unable to draw their secondary weapon, which you responded with telling them the issue must've been noticed by the devs and probably being fixed thus that complaint wasn't valid or pointless and didnt belong in the thread. This is straight up taking a stand in defense of the developers and in the same time downplaying people with criticism (btw that issue is still in the game and probably brushed aside or considered a feature lmao). But you know what? This is not really an issue, you could've geniunely thought that the issue was worked upon at the time also if the archery bug was the only complaint in the thread I'd agree with you that such a thing might not merit complaint especially if the issue is being worked upon. There being several duplicate threads and very repetetive complaints means that an issue like this might've been best approached like you did.
That was not the only issue however as in the thread players would discuss about archery damage and complain about how aiming worked. These complaints are some of the examples you categorize as "make it exactly like Warband". The fact that it could take like several arrows to kill an opponent made it so that archers would get majority of their kills from melee, I mean when I played archer myself I would either shoot some arrows until I realized that is was pointless so I'd just draw my axe and get some kills in melee. Either that or I'd go naked archer and pretend I was an easy kill so whenever someone came to kill me I'd draw my weapons and attack them for an easy kill. In addition to the low damage there was also the issue of awkward aiming which you also dismissed as a "make it exactly like Warband" argument. I mean this is just straight up bad design. Let's say you shoot about 10-20 arrows a round you'd have to endure the bad aiming and low damage, now think of having to play a map with such inconvenience. Make it exactly like warband? Sure why the fuck not, ask yourself what archery in warband is? It's not like it is super unique and at its core it is very basic, something basic like that can later be built upon to give OKAM its own unique twist to it. Heck isnt that how the directional system is? They increased the amount of attack directions, made it so feinting requires 1 button and not two and making chamber a button etc.
Archery should be 'easy to play and hard to master' not 'awkward to play and fuck it I might as well take out my axe and kill this retard in melee'.
This was straight up bad game design/decisions which you decided to defend, not by claiming it was good design but by constantly discrediting the opposition you would for example compare them to people complaining balance in cRPG without actually understanding their complaints at the core since you didnt play the game.
If you actually played the game and not the forum you would've experienced this all first hand I mean the whole game was filled with shit like this:
Weapons getting stuck in the ground and obstacles because weird hitboxes making battles on uneven terrain or narrow corridors absolutely atrocious.
The combat being deceptively shallow because even though you have additional directions it replaced the feature of aiming your attacks in warband. If you wanted to do a diagonal attack in warband you could stare at the ground or the sky and how you aimed your attacks could lead to all sort of insane feints. Since in OKAM all your attacks are set you actually lose options in what you can do in combat which made the combat very fucking stale and basically became all about footwork trying to get on your opponents flank so you could abuse the awkward camera system.
Shields being by far the most retarded of designs, you could just spam them and permastun them and since shields blocked strikes automatically shielders became practise dummies especially in 1v1s. Man shields also had ghost block ranges, like a friendly shielder could be fairly far behind you and when you tried to attack an enemy his shield would just block the attack even though he wasn't facehugging you or wasnt even touched by your strike.
The list goes on but the point here is that the game was in a terrible state and you decided to engage in conversations about these issues by dismissing the criticism or actively defended the design choices which most definitely is not something a person without bias would do, person who "waits and sees".
Yes those threads about the open world were perfectly suited and you did contribute to them no doubt I have no issue with that. In threads like that brainstorming and theory is more valuable since we dont have the open world out yet but threads you shouldn't have taken part of are combat threads since there's no point to speculation everything is grounded in the combat which is playable. I have to remind you again that you didnt play the game which meant you had no experience of the combat, no knowledge of it. You were completely ignorant of it and yet you decided to go to a thread about combat and give your input which would've amounted to nothing and also just so happened to be in favor of the devs.
I think people like you really should look into a mirror because when you point out supposed flaws in others you are just ironically describing yourself. I never said you claimed the game was good which you can still see in my post, what I said was that you defended its flaws from a point of ignorance while actively shitting on people with actual experience of the game which is in stark contrast with the image of you as a person who "waits and sees". So who is desperately trying to paint others here? You were the one who discredited players' arguments by simplifying them to "make it exactly like Warband". You are the guy who painted your opposition as irrational and stupid by bringing up Jambi (coincidentally one of the archers you argued with).
How did you make a 180? Let's just take your actions into consideration and then make a judgement based on that. Together with a group of OKAM supporters you were very active on the forum mocking staunch criticizers of the game while ridiculing their complaints. Now together with a group of OKAM scepticists you you mock staunch advocates of OKAM and ridicule their arguments and devs' changes of the game on this forum.
The thing worthy of note here is when you did this, you were exclusively mocking anti-OKAM when OKAM was still fairly popular and spirit was high, then you went with a more reserved approach when OKAM transformed from shit to unplayable and support had massively declined(entire teams falling through the ground at the beginning of the round, mass pop decline leading to small boring battles) and around the time the game was empty and Donkey Crew left you started solely mocking pro-OKAM. This is why I referred to you as a conformist.
Believe it or not I am not trying to attack your person. In the end I only got one thing to say to you, just drop the act dude, I mean don't take yourself so seriously c'mon bro. Instead of denying it just embrace who you were, we all know you were part of THE OKAM SQUAD.
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The combat being deceptively shallow because even though you have additional directions it replaced the feature of aiming your attacks in warband. If you wanted to do a diagonal attack in warband you could stare at the ground or the sky and how you aimed your attacks could lead to all sort of insane feints. Since in OKAM all your attacks are set you actually lose options in what you can do in combat which made the combat very fucking stale and basically became all about footwork trying to get on your opponents flank so you could abuse the awkward camera system.
It's really triggering my PTSD talking about this shit again, but fuck me, I tried to flag this with the devs so many times. OKAM's shallow combat design literally enables you to hit the skill-ceiling in 30 hours, if not less. They can add all the strategic maps and loot boxes they want; at the end of the day, if they can't get the foundations right it will never be a game that can compete with Warband, or any other PvP melee game with actual combat depth.
IMO the game could have been successful if they were more open to changing some of the core mechanics. It honestly felt like the Donkeys only tested their new system internally and never had any input from actual competitive players that could have pointed out issues with the game's restrictions when there was still time for a combat re-work. Every time I made a comment on the deleted forum about the restrictive turn rate or laughable degrees to which attacks can be angled, it was met with some retard like Siegbert being like "but it's more realistic!!" ...because we all play this genre for realism, lol. I guess if you want a dumbed down version of Warband with additional attack directions that don't add any complexity, then OKAM's the game for you.
My message to the shitlords that removed our donkeys from OKAM development. Posted here aswell for those of you never returning to the other forum.
Devs from CRPG are a great group and I am sad to see that they won't work on OKAM any more.
In truth we may have shitposted one or two too many times
Everyone had a positive outlook in the beginning
It's a sad statement about the state of Early Access the way this has gone
No one expected that chadz and the DC could be treated so poorly by their sponsors
Anyone that would remove chadz from his passion project OKAM clearly has cancer of the heart
For now it looks like we will return to CRPG
It is after all much more complete than OKAM and now our beloved Donkey God has gone
Regrets, I've had a few
Est quaedam flere voluptas
can't use Jambi if you want to disprove painting someone stupid
Well said. I remember us complaining about these issues on the old forums. The thing is all the remaining OKAM players actually think it's the greatest combat system available on the market, so now they have no one complaining about it.They were never interested in making the game skillful. Which direction did cRPG go in? Steadily easier and less skilled, removing as many of the little quirks that gave the combat its depth as they could, and intentionally making the speeds slower because "lol not everyone is a fast twitch player!!!"
I guess you can't blame them when they've only played Warband at a very basic level.
Ugh, I missed this place. Never change.
I've never had a problem with Jona, I like to think we're still good there but he can correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'm here not to defend the game and changes, if you have some questions or suggestions, go ahead, but it was more of a casual heads up. 90% of the posts are bashing Heskey and back though, which is what I responded to.
ps Love u too Vibe <3
I regret that the record of that old forum doesnt exist so that I can't disprove the essay you just wrote by finding the relevant threads that triggered you. Believe me, I've looked.I guess it will be your words against mine then which in hindsight makes my post pretty pointless. My post to begin with was supposed to be short and keep the same lightheartedness as the first one but as I wrote it just kept getting longer and as I reread it now it feels like it has a more aggressive tone even condescending in some parts which was not what I wanted it to be. It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.
And no, posting on a thread that says "What were you thinking with this change developers!?!?!" with a quote from a developer showing their reasoning for a change, and speculation behind why this change may have happened is not standing in defence, not unless I say I think the reasoning is good or that the mechanic is good. It's compensating for shitty forum search skills and it's engaging with the community cos the devs sure werent doing it. When did a single dev come to one of those threads to answer your clearly bitter complaints? I attempted to answer questions that someone had already answered somewhere else. And when people wanted to rampantly speculate as to why and how something was the way it was, i took part as much as anyone, so shoot me lol.
I did ridicule some opinions, "game isn't optimised yet", "polish first, features later", "make Warband instead" because they were shit opinions or offered nothing of value. Plot-twist of the century, I still think dogshit opinions are dogshit even after my complete transformative 180. Complaints about mechanics, specifically the ones Kadeth mentioned above, I've always agreed with. I agreed with him at the time, I posted my agreement with him at the time. The OKAM Squad meme is hilarious, feel free to post away, they even got my clan colours right.
Maybe someone can find records from that forum to prove how great your imagination is. I'd love it if someone did. But in the meantime, I would like to take a moment to say I am utterly disgusted with all the child pornography you shared on that forum. It wasnt funny, it wasnt clever, it was just utterly sick and I can't believe you can sit on your high horse after circulating garbage like that every single day.
Just gonna leave this here, and let it sink in for a few seconds.Well I guess you are right there, in Jambi's case he does merit the description you gave him.
So according to you I painted my opposition as irrational and stupid by bringing up one of the archers I argued with (y'know, my 'opposition' in the situation you outlined)? How fiendish of me!
Be fair Bugnir, I can hardly be held responsible for the fact my opposition was by all accounts, irrational and stupid. It's certainly not my fault that some of the people choosing to critique the game mechanics were the same people (Jambi, Plumbo) that we've all learned over the years to tune out for their irrational and stupid posts about cRPG. I call that an own-goal on their part.
It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.
I guess it will be your words against mine then which in hindsight makes my post pretty pointless. My post to begin with was supposed to be short and keep the same lightheartedness as the first one but as I wrote it just kept getting longer and as I reread it now it feels like it has a more aggressive tone even condescending in some parts which was not what I wanted it to be. It also seems to have emboldened Stoned to shitpost which definitely was not my intention.
Well anyways who cares whether you actively defended OKAM or not it's not like you were Siegbert's level of devotion.
Well I guess you are right there, in Jambi's case he does merit the description you gave him.
lol, its not your word vs his, we ALL remember it.What name/s do you use when you play native?
ohh shit its siegi! hey, at least you stand by what you post.ok ty. Native na battle ronin server has had like 50 players on around 4-7 pm pst the last week or so.
@ ash: Nordic Knight, havent been playing native, havent really been gaming, if i do, its morrowind ( because old games are old and boring and i love being bored by old boring things )
its funny seeing sieg and pogo post here, all we need is capra and the okam's will be reunited.
its funny seeing sieg and pogo post here, all we need is capra and the okam's will be reunited.
the shills have arrivedGood thing the entire game only has about 3 of them
I'm here not to defend the game and changes, if you have some questions or suggestions, go ahead
Uhh we tried that, then you deleted the entire forum.
There's a % of people out there I trigger. Based on the type of person that usually is, I can't say I'm not proud of it.
Annoying others doesn't please me, what if they're a nice person? But causing you to rage so hard you think about me on and off for over a year, with minimal effort on my part? What's not to like? Won't pretend I did it on purpose or with you in mind, but I'm certainly impressed with the results.
jesus fucking christ you flipflop alot huh, i think acre just found their new minister of propaganda damn.
save your out of hours message im more interested in the "why im a conformist cunt" one.
I know it's not your style, but the good thing about a forum that still exists is that you or anyone could go and check that claim.
Since you have something to prove and don't mind staying up all night thinking about me, it shouldn't take you long to plot my 7,000 posts on a graph.
"When does Heskey post". Get on it.
I know it's not your style, but the good thing about a forum that still exists is that you or anyone could go and check that claim.
Since you have something to prove and don't mind staying up all night thinking about me, it shouldn't take you long to plot my 7,000 posts on a graph.
"When does Heskey post". Get on it.
Best pull an all-nighter, otherwise I might never admit to being a conformist :lol:
Enjoy it whilst it lasts. Judging from the last few times he'll be running away soon, have a month or two to recover then come back to post walls that nobody reads when we least expect it. 24/7 till he quits again.
Wouldn't call that particularly unstoppable.
fuck you want me to do...talk shit to myself, for him?
Anyone with a forum registration date post 2011 is subhuman in my eyes anyway....
this thread seriously fuckin blows.
but does it blow as hard as okam?
ask heskey, he's the okam expert.
I think it was quite obvious that I was joking there. Yeah, I know him but I don't value his opinion on the game too much as he seems to barely have any experience with it.
Not sure what you mean by me posting like an expert while critizing actual experts. I never claimed to be an expert, whatever that means. I enjoy posting a lot and I do enjoy the game for what it's worth, sure. If there's any confusion concerning my opinion or past statements, I'm happy to clear it up. I don't think I said anything I must feel ashamed of.
DC could have acted on the solid suggestions of long time hardcore players, players who left WEEK 1, shit if i remember it was only days into the game and battle pop had dropped significantly
shit most of my crpg friends didnt even put in 10 hours...thats how quickly we all saw how fucking shit it was.
Why are you beating Seigbert around you dont even play native anymore.
does he? wtf does that have to do with anything?Well native is your go to game of skill is it not? Last I understood from you is that you hated crpg.
Well native is your go to game of skill is it not? Last I understood from you is that you hated crpg.
i do recall getting into it with both you and heskey, though to be fair, the bold part of your quote is true, you did indeed fully admit to being a casual.
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lol if i remember correctly one of the arguments good ole siegbert used when we started bitching about okam was "just because you are good at one game, that means you will be expert at this?" not exact quote but something along those lines ya.
but to suck that much dick and defend complete bullshit like the steampage being totally inaccurate and misleading, then be dumb enough that it takes over six fucking months to realize the bleedingly obvious, then come back over here to rant and rave about how terrible the game is and how much we were mislead...and how the fucking steampage isnt accurate?
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Yeah, that funny picture one of my Krems buddies made crushed me real good xD hurt so bad I made it my sig in December.
Oh wait, you're serious? ROFL! You actually thought that was like some big name and shame event? No wonder you've been crutching on that so hard xD what an insult!!! I was so mad I boycotted Krems Whatsapp as a result! They sure showed me.
Ahahah, you actually thought that didn't you? That's amazing. Thank you.
xD
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He has an amazing memory, like he can remember all these multiple people telling me to drop the act over the last several pages xD
I'm dedicated to getting strategus back online so you nerds can put this autism farm to good use
So you'll be joining OKAM then? xdddd
So you'll be joining OKAM then? xdddd
You joke but I probably will :shock:If they separated the block and attack buttons I would try it again.
If they separated the block and attack buttons I would try it again.
Wouldn't make any sense for them to do that...Why wouldn't it? KCD and Mordhau have similar "many" attack directions with their block/party button still on the rmb why does it work for them but wouldn't for okam?
Well, it would but it just makes you slower and less effective if you tried this against people who only need one key to perform both actions.Well if they ever decide to seperate them or allow both methods come let me know and I will gladly play it again.
Go back to slobbering on BBC Plumbo.
I was pretty pro okam until it became clear after months of silence that something fucky was happening
Yea, although people should stop bashing it now. Yes, It's still a.pile of shit however the new Devs have worked really hard and made a lot of improvements. Their task was already virtually impossible when they took over, it doesn't need to be made any harder by salty nerds that are still mad at chadz.
Yea, although people should stop bashing it now. Yes, It's still a.pile of shit however the new Devs have worked really hard and made a lot of improvements. Their task was already virtually impossible when they took over, it doesn't need to be made any harder by salty nerds that are still mad at chadz.
die
I was pretty pro okam until it became clear after months of silence that something fucky was happeningI remember that i created thread on the forum about chadz is suspiciously silent for 2 month already at that time, and almost everyone took it funny and unseriously, and joked about it. :rolleyes:
the deve ran
Its too bad heskey vs fcc never happened. The shit posting could have been real.
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the okam squad meme doesnt take any rocket science to figure out, 4 superheores each with their own catchphrase a saying their dumbass actually said.
Your posts are always a blast to read, cheers.
ic...
fair enough.
Meanwhile, strat map is released. Does anyone tried it yet?
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It might look like that document was legally binding, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't. So it was definitely a donation. Anyone who actually expected some return on that "investment" is a gullible clown.
>investment
>expect to make money if the game does well
:lol: :lol: :lol:
OKAM is the true CRPG Killer :cry: :cry: :cry:
...We did get game-keys for OkaM, so at least in the mind of whom gave them to us, there was a connection.
I'm not sure if we know enough to claim that OKAM is just re-named M:BG, it may as well be a completely new entity in the eyes of law. ...
Well guys, I think this (http://ofkingsandmen.net/forum/threads/it-was-fun-while-it-lasted.168/#post-1337) ends any further discussion
...with their noble community champion, pogosan, leading the charge.
would be nice if some of the more active clans and players from okam moved over to crpg too.
dunno man, will they be able to deal with the clearly inferior combat system of Warband
I mean, there's still bots to play against in OKAM, right? It's not like they played vs anything else before
You mean that totally outdated using RMB to block idea, using lmb for everything was totally revolutionary, much like the Nintendo virtual boy was revolutionary in the 90s.
but it's hard to have sympathy when it took them so long to stop false advertising (did they ever?)
and the devs were still promising the moon and the stars until recently, with their noble community champion, pogosan, leading the charge.
Idk why they didnt just stick to 360° attacks, and keep the rest of the Warband system (with a better collision system maybe?). Thats all we really need in Bannerlord too, hope they dont fuck this up.
Because what they came up with was better...
would be nice if some of the more active clans and players from okam moved over to crpg too.
Well, I'm entitled to my opinion just a you are.
Cute lamb though
Well Sigibert since its over, I for one would like to welcome you back to cRPG. You would be most welcome with us Norse if FCoR don't make it here :)
A sad day for myself personally, as I had gotten involved with the game a long time ago
For the most part the game was enjoyable even when all the players left, but some of the best hours I spent gaming was in those early days of launch at the end of August 2016
I could use your opinion on kickstarter; if you can keep quiet, and are interested in giving some advice, query me in irc
Because what they came up with was better... I'm still sad that Bannerlord will be better in almost all respects but the melee combat controls. Guess it has to work for controllers as well...
>Put Nessaj in charge of kickstarter
>Expect it to do well
<it doesn't do well
i've wasted many hours of my life trying to explain to siegbert how warband has far more depth than OKAM; he's a lost cause i'm afraid
thrust that dude
>Put Nessaj in charge of kickstarter
>Expect it to do well
<it doesn't do well
what changed tho?
There is no control on the main menu
If you're a social media manager and post on corporate twitter, you don't repost memes from your buddies. And I tried to limit random social chatter once chadz offered me a job there, but that's because calling someone an ass bundle of sticks having a Community Manager tag would be kinda like being called the n word while messaging tech support.
I had a closed channel for some of the more trustworthy people, including old cRPG players like Pestdoktor, Ramses or Tobi. No access to random people or devs. That's where everyone could unleash their retardness, which was pretty close to crpg forums, and kinda nice (not off-topic kind though, more of a general)
what changed tho?
I don't think he expects you to threaten him like anything.
And now you expect me to threat you like nothing happened? Bugger off.
I would be pretty surprised, that's for sure. I might like it though.Leshmas really got a hard-on for you. I wonder how much $$ he lost on OKaM.
Leshmas really got a hard-on for you. I wonder how much $$ he lost on OKaM.
At least now we all know the real reason for OKAM failing. What was chadz thinking asking leshma for advice?This broke my suspension of disbelief. Leshman must be off its meds again.
So many okam diehard fans and shills even now believe the game had the best combat system, it's hilarious. The combat was a clunky, sluggish mess with stiff and ugly animations and horrible controls. Every "feature" these brainwashed bubble-dwellers think improved the combat (such as more attack directions or left click for everything) didn't actually put any depth on the system.
Their argument? You didn't put enough hours in it; I don't need to put in hundreds of hours in another FPS game for example to be able to tell it's garbage. The things that were wrong with OKAM's combat were very obvious and detectable fast to anyone with veteran experience in the genre.
You were just jealously asserting your authority because of my successful Weimar Republic days.
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Let me just say this:
I played Warband for 1300+ hours and I loved the combat system. I played Okam a couple of times and found it awkward until I got the gist of things and slowly learned to appreciate it for how fluid and intuitive it actually felt. It took me a couple of days, though. I went back to Warband a few times after that and while I still loved Warband for what it was I've been convinced that Okam's controls offer something more.
I'll just leave it at that.
Ok, I know it's easy ridiculing any dissenting opinion on that matter on this forum since every one who hates Okam has stayed here, and everybody who loved it had moved to Okam discord. I know I can't convince you and you wouldn't care either way.
Let me just say this:
I played Warband for 1300+ hours and I loved the combat system. I played Okam a couple of times and found it awkward until I got the gist of things and slowly learned to appreciate it for how fluid and intuitive it actually felt. It took me a couple of days, though. I went back to Warband a few times after that and while I still loved Warband for what it was I've been convinced that Okam's controls offer something more.
I'll just leave it at that.
Look, I know I can't prove this because the forum was deleted, but myself and others here really tried to have productive conversations with you about OKAM's combat. The reason you'll continue to be ridiculed here is because you've only ever had two arguments, those being "in my opinion it is more fluid!" and "warband is less realistic!". Oh, and can't forget the classic OKAM fanboy meme, "you never played it enough to truly understand it!!", even though I regularly went 40-0 back when the servers actually had players.
You admitted yourself that you were never a competitive player in either game, yet you would constantly talk trash about how OKAM's combat was superior. Can you not understand why that makes people think you're retarded? You have no understanding of the mechanics behind high tier warband combat, you've made that very clear. For some of us, things in OKAM like the reduced turn rate and reduced attack angling degrees were major steps backwards as they have huge effects on skill ceiling and therefore the longevity of the game.
To be fair, even I regularly went 10:1 KD on OKAM so thats not that big of af eat
Idk why they didnt just stick to 360° attacks, and keep the rest of the Warband system (with a better collision system maybe?). Thats all we really need in Bannerlord too, hope they dont fuck this up.
The reason you'll continue to be ridiculed here is because you've only ever had two arguments, those being "in my opinion it is more fluid!" and "warband is less realistic!". Oh, and can't forget the classic OKAM fanboy meme, "you never played it enough to truly understand it!!", even though I regularly went 40-0 back when the servers actually had players.
You admitted yourself that you were never a competitive player in either game, yet you would constantly talk trash about how OKAM's combat was superior.
It was all about cheesing people into dropping their blocks because they had to move the camera to stay facing the opponent. Just silly spamming on one side and the other or holding attacks until they have to turn so the block drops. There was a stance lock key but I found it fiddly as hell. There was also a setting in the options that locked a stance by default, but it was also very clunky and came with its own downsides to play like that.
There wasn't really any block stunThere was bad block. You get a slight stun when not being in the perfect stance which slows you down. I didn't particularly like it, but many people swore in it.
you couldn't really aim attacksYeah, you could. I believe Kaktus especially had been criticised for abusing the aim mechanic more than most.
Maybe they improved it a bit at some point, but I was already pretty bored of it and felt like the core of the game wasn't going to improve enoughFair enough
I'm the average player's opinion which is valid, too.
Ok, I know it's easy ridiculing any dissenting opinion on that matter on this forum since every one who hates Okam has stayed here, and everybody who loved it had moved to Okam discord.
The reason Okam did bad was mainly because of its bad marketing and failed promises. The combat was the only thing that made it stick out.
Then they went and just deleted the forum and all those quality posts with it, ffs
I actually backed the whole old forum up for meme value. I'm not saying I'll share though.
A bit salty about that tbh. I have done some seriously shitty shitposting in my day but that was UBER-Shitposting.(click to show/hide)
It literally takes about 20 hours to master
:shock: HAMMERLAW?
Let's just take a moment to remember the aspect of OKAM that was truly superior... the ability to embed quotes on the forum as above without manual giggery-pokery
positive KDR
nerd mod on: You cannot have a negative k/d anyway unless you teamkill more than you kill. The moment you have >_ 0 positive kills you have a positive k/d. Also fun fact: you cannot have a k/d at all if you never die.That would mean a division through 0 and thats not allowed.
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nerd mod on: You cannot have a negative k/d anyway unless you teamkill more than you kill. The moment you have >_ 0 positive kills you have a positive k/d. Also fun fact: you cannot have a k/d at all if you never die.That would mean a division through 0 and thats not allowed.
I guess a KD ratio smaller than 1 would be the equivalent of negative.
You can have hundreds of hours in a game and never truly understand its mechanics.
I don't think either Warband or Okam are particularly realistic. It's about fun and intuitiveness, rather than realism.
To the fluidity argument I stand.
I don't think I made an objective statement about it, as it always comes down to opinion.
Me, not being a top tier dueller shouldn't matter. I'm the average player's opinion which is valid, too. Also, I would say I did pretty well in both games but a lot better in Okam.
Ther was a hilarious meme someone made on old okam forum, it was chadz riding a bicycle with square wheels, in the corner was siegbert saying "this is the greatest invention ever"
Whether a post here was deleted or edited, I'm just going off a post that says you wrote it and that the last edit was by you. I'll take for granted then that these are your words.
I hate to respond to this semi-seriously, but is it 'power-tripping' for someone to do their job? If their behaviour has changed, maybe it's because their job has changed.
I've seen you complain before that players change when they get admin, probably because they didn't have responsibility/obligations in the game before. It's a shitty example cos becoming admin here doesnt necessarily come with authority for most people, just an admin toolkit, whereas Pogosan was the community manager for something that wanted to be a real commercial game. But in either case, the expectations change for that person and frankly if someone's happy-go-lucky and doesnt want responsibility i'd be more concerned if they didnt change how they present themself when put in that position - frankly if someone wants to continue saying/doing whatever they want they should have turned the offer down like a normal person.
Yes, evident in your OKAM fanboyism despite having played 1300 hours of Warband. We wouldn't be having these discussions if you knew anything about Warband's complexities.
You've changed your tone on this one; I remember you directly saying that the way in which attack angles could be adjusted in Warband was unrealistic. I'm certain you made other autistic realism arguments too.
It's not even an argument, just a retarded OKAM buzzword, without any details or facts like all your opinions on the matter.
OKAM's combat being a lot more restrictive than Warband's isn't a matter of opinion, the turn rate is slower, attack angling is reduced, these are facts bro.
At the end of the day you can tell me how great OKAM is all you want, but when you say that it's a superior system to Warband, you can expect me to call out your lack of comprehension.
the turn rate is slower, attack angling is reduced, these are facts broSure, the opinion part is whether you enjoy those changes or not.
People who take more enjoyment out of a realistic movement system in contrast to an arcade one. For instance, I take more enjoyment out of games like ArmA or Red Orchestra than games like Quake or Unreal. Doesn't mean either is objectively better than the other.
You don't add realism for the sake of it though. You do it because it adds depth to the gameplay.
There is a point where limiting your combat system to fit realism is damaging to the point that it starts to feel too clunky and limited
as is the case in OKAM
Adding realism to player actions can add tons of skill into a game, even if it means limiting the player in some ways. I don't think it necessarily happened in OKAM though.
Slowing things down can make the choices players make more tactical so there is more emphasis on making good decisions rather than quick reflexes and twitch aiming. It can also add a bit of difficulty in working with the limitations put on the character. Like in Red Orchestra or other tactical shooters you have more accuracy when stationary and your character has momentum. So to fire you might have to counteract the momentum and fire with timing that comes from lots of practice. Or you have unsteady hands so you have to adjust the aim accordingly. Realism can add loads of skill and depth into a game. I would have been quite happy if OKAM went with some realism for character actions if it meant for a more deep and rewarding combat system. You don't add realism for the sake of it though. You do it because it adds depth to the gameplay.
He knows :wink:
He's in China making a new game with some of the people from the old team. Doing pretty well from what I saw, and he said the game is very unique on the market, but no public info on specifics yet. They got a new logo too, and unless someone hijacked his account to send a postmortem picture of chadz, I'm pretty sure he's alive by the looks of it.
He's in China making a new game with some of the people from the old team. Doing pretty well from what I saw, and he said the game is very unique on the market, but no public info on specifics yet. They got a new logo too, and unless someone hijacked his account to send a postmortem picture of chadz, I'm pretty sure he's alive by the looks of it.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
yeah, because western companies would never steal things if they were able to get away with it.
If they only had an ounce of conscience when creating goods and following common sense not to make poisonous products, they would be golden.
Oh look, its the random turkWhat're u talking about dude?
What're u talking about dude?you