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Other Games => Total War Series => Topic started by: Torben on February 08, 2016, 06:38:55 pm

Title: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Torben on February 08, 2016, 06:38:55 pm
never played,  on steam for little money,  which one to buy I shall?
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Renay on February 08, 2016, 06:51:09 pm
Medieval 2
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Taser on February 08, 2016, 07:15:53 pm
Quote from: Renay on February 08, 2016, 06:51:09 pm
Medieval 2

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Any other answer is heresy.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: [ptx] on February 08, 2016, 07:25:11 pm
Rome, the first one. Or Shogun 2, it's probably the most well rounded of them all, lacking only in troop/culture variety of the other games.
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Post by: Rhekimos on February 08, 2016, 07:30:55 pm
Medieval 2 was my favourite as well. It doesn't even look that dated and the AI is functional.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Taser on February 08, 2016, 07:35:18 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on February 08, 2016, 07:25:11 pm
Rome, the first one. Or Shogun 2, it's probably the most well rounded of them all, lacking only in troop/culture variety of the other games.

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Shogun 2 is a good one though.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Renay on February 08, 2016, 07:47:44 pm
Shogun 2 was fun, but there was a cheat tactic for the AI where they spawn armies out of there ass
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Post by: [ptx] on February 08, 2016, 07:56:51 pm
Quote from: Taser on February 08, 2016, 07:35:18 pm
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I care not, foolish mon-keigh!

Quote from: Renay on February 08, 2016, 07:47:44 pm
Shogun 2 was fun, but there was a cheat tactic for the AI where they spawn armies out of there ass
Unlike the previous games, right? More likely, the AI cheating just wasn't so visible, because of the larger, more open world-maps and the larger number of territories each AI faction would be controlling.
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Post by: njames89 on February 08, 2016, 07:57:57 pm
Empire Total War was always my favorite. Epic line battles and great sea battles
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Post by: Renay on February 08, 2016, 08:20:21 pm
They all have their pros and cons, but I think Medieval 2 is the best one to start with
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Post by: Piok on February 08, 2016, 10:35:06 pm
Medieval 2 + Kingdoms datadisk.
Kingdoms for Mods cos best ones needs Kingdoms.
Without mods this game looks rather dated and vanilla is rather dull.
I liked Broken crescent, Third age total war, Stainless steel also Call of warhammer is nice.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Renay on February 08, 2016, 11:05:10 pm
Medieval 2 probably has the best mods of all the Total War games so far.
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Post by: Opset_the_Grey on February 08, 2016, 11:28:53 pm
Medieval 2
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Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Torben on February 08, 2016, 11:56:30 pm
thanks a bunch,  got myself some med II cine,  looking forward to playing it.
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Post by: darmaster on February 09, 2016, 12:41:57 am
For the battle side empire/napoleon; on the campaign side medieval 2/rome
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Post by: KaleLord on February 09, 2016, 06:40:29 am
Rome 2 Total War

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Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: IR_Kuoin on February 09, 2016, 09:11:10 am
I haven't played Medieval 2 but I played a shit ton of Medieval 1. That was really good, nothing like losing half your crusade force to deceases before they reach the middle east.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Torben on February 09, 2016, 09:26:39 am
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on February 09, 2016, 09:11:10 am
I haven't played Medieval 2 but I played a shit ton of Medieval 1. That was really good, nothing like losing half your crusade force to deceases before they reach the middle east.

pretty much what happend to hobo's this strat ^^
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Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on February 09, 2016, 09:59:47 am
Medieval 2 has that utter BS spy opening games shit though.

I'm gonna recommend either Shogun 2, Rome 2 (cos it actually works now). I also quite liked Empire as well.
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Post by: Leesin on February 09, 2016, 11:32:14 am
Med 2 + Kingdoms is one of my all time favourites for sure, Broken Crescent mod is awesome, high quality mod with a fantastic setting. Third Age Total War is also fantastic quality and a must for anyone that likes The Lord of the Rings. Stainless Steel is pretty good for the vast size although IMO it also lacked in focus and detail because of that, still a good mod. Call of Warhammer is good but I found it to always be unstable and buggy, relying on too many scripts and scripted events to make things work, but if you like or have ever liked Warhammer at all you will have fun with this one.

That being said, they are all honestly good now, they all have good parts and the choice of eras is nice. They fixed Rome 2 and I also really enjoyed Attila, they're both quite different from the other games in the way things like army recruitment is handled, but I liked that. They're also the newest and look awesome, after having played the life out of the older games I tired of them and only really play Rome 2, Shogun 2 or Attila now when I want some TW fun.

Last of all, I can't believe you've never tried a TW game, hope you enjoy!.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Angantyr on February 09, 2016, 01:15:42 pm
I'm pretty sure anyone saying MTWII hasn't played MTWI. MTWII has some great mods, but I still think the engine is clunky (also compared to RTWI which have even better mods) and the campaign is a downgrade from the first.

But I still think RTWII:EE, NTW (Napoleonic wars) and Attila with Charlemagne are the best TW campaigns. Shogun II if you like Medieval Japan. They are all improvements over earlier games in the series.
For anyone new to the series I'd say start with Rome II Emperor Edition, it's the most impressive in scope and with a modern engine, and it got fixed up good in the last few patches. Or if you want a Medieval setting go for the most recent campaign DLC for Attila.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Renay on February 09, 2016, 01:33:12 pm
Medieval 1 just looks too dated
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Leesin on February 09, 2016, 02:37:11 pm
I played plenty of MTW1, while it was great, MTW2 once patched/fixed was good + visually a lot nicer, but the mods made it more than great, never had any desire to play MTW1 since.
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Post by: [ptx] on February 09, 2016, 03:01:53 pm
I hate the addition of hitpoints in R2:TW, i think the game was perfectly fine with all non-special/super-elite units having just one hitpoint (and a lot more defense), made flanking fire/attacks a lot more rewarding and units were tough from the front.
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Post by: Renay on February 09, 2016, 10:01:50 pm
I think hitpoints were already a thing in Shogun 2
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Post by: Piok on February 09, 2016, 10:16:33 pm
What I hate on Rome2, Shogun2 is constant raising traits of Generals and Agents.
After a while it gets boring and frustrating specially with bigger empire.
Why it could not be as in Medieval2 or Rome, automatic.
If your general is not used and sits in city with nice brothel of course he will not become highly skilled killing machine but cheerful drunkard.
He get some new traits which could be negative in combat but could be on other hand very good for city,province management.
But in Rome2 constant clicking and level increasing, which stupidly prolongs slow pace of game.
Even general totally used for battle could increase his level in city/province management.
But as I said more generals and agents more frustration.

Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Torben on February 13, 2016, 10:49:18 am
anyone who enjoys the battle system of M II might want to check out a very old game thats pretty similar and rly fun,  Warhammer: Dark Omen
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Renay on February 13, 2016, 11:59:45 am
Quote from: Torben on February 13, 2016, 10:49:18 am
anyone who enjoys the battle system of M II might want to check out a very old game thats pretty similar and rly fun,  Warhammer: Dark Omen

I remember that game, it was very fun, but the difficulty was pretty high at some point
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Ujin on February 15, 2016, 09:01:40 am
Check this baby out guys :

Hopefully the full campaign mode is ready soon
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Post by: Angantyr on February 15, 2016, 06:08:36 pm
They've also made an RTWII version that also never got a campaign, most of their resources for unit skins come from M&B modders like Dejawolf, Rahtos and Counterpoint etc. It's a shame but I don't we should count on ever having a real campaign.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on February 18, 2016, 08:44:19 pm
So how come they can make a mod like that, but can't make another Third Age? Is it because there is less resources for the modders to work with? Less tools and availability? Because I would coom my pants if they made a Third Age for Rome 2.
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: ARN_ on February 18, 2016, 09:07:44 pm
http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-war-rise-of-mordor
Title: Re: give total war a shot - which one tho
Post by: Tom Cruise on February 18, 2016, 09:30:55 pm
Quote from: ARN_ on February 18, 2016, 09:07:44 pm
http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-war-rise-of-mordor

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Now on a more serious note. This is still very pre alpha, and has a LOOOONNNNG way to go before it reaches the detail and vast scale of Midieval 2's  mod, which at this point is kind of pointless. Unless they have a fairly big, and talented team, that works endlessly to pump it out, and get all of the things like all of the races, different species (trolls, wargs, mumakil, etc), custom map with custom settlements, and the whole nine yards, would still take a huge amount of time. With it being so late into Rome's release, having a that long way to come still, and with the upcoming release of Warhammer, it would kind of be a waste.

The only thing that would make me want to play that honestly and this point, or down the road, is if they do end up making an amazing mod like it's predecessor, Warhammer is a total flop, which I pray to all of the gods like Sigmar, Khorne, and the rest of the gang, that they don't fuck it up, because Warhammer/40k is my favorite fantasy universes. So they would reeaaaallllllly have to blow it on the next game. 
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Post by: Renay on February 19, 2016, 01:19:35 am
The sad thing about Rise of mordor is that they probably wont be able to change the campaign map