Diplomacy sucks, politics suck, alot of poor game design choices, missing features/unfinished features. The game's a mess, boring, and a discrace to the Total war series... 3/10
Let me add a thing to the list. The entire game sucks. It is absolutely fucking terrible, the AI both on map and battle is horrible.
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That looks fucking nothing like ingame. The video where they show that off they say "It's still early alpha it's gonna look much better when it's released." What the hell happened to the grapichs?
Let me add a thing to the list. The entire game sucks. It is absolutely fucking terrible, the AI both on map and battle is horrible.
It seems they removed many aspects of the game, or just never got round to finishing them. The start up menu initially showed the factions leader or general, upon clicking that faction, which for some reason, was swapped for the simple background we have now. The majority of the ancient wonders of the world which were meant to be in game, are nothing but empty squares on the battle map. Upon clicking units, an avatar of the units commander popped up in the corner, which was also removed (not that I like these animated avatars, I fucking hate them). It seems they've only just added fire to damaged buildings, which is clearly seen in the Carthage demo. Wasn't the game meant to be around 35 GB or so, it's not even 20 GB, makes you wonder what else they ripped out of the game...
dont tell me you believe anything that they show in trailers. remember dragon age origins?
Did you watch the trailer? :o It certainly looked like a battle from the game (Except the grapichs).
imo dao didnt deserve 9/10, id give it like 7/10.Yeah, and evidently most people disagree with you.
The former is a cinematic trailer. Obviously (only to some it seems) that isn't what the gameplay looks like....
Yeah, and evidently most people disagree with you.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-origins
metacritic is know to give great scores to about any game, as long as devs or publishers fork out the cash to cover it. dragon age origins is a good game, but not that super awesome quality-defining rpg they tell us it is.
Empire Total War came out at 90+ score too. CA really knows how to work over reviewers.
I wasn't aware devs and publishers were forking out the cash to the 500 user reviewers.
those are the sheep that find this game s combat good, because the dont know any better.
Out of curiosity, how do you find Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale?those are old classics, revolutionary in their time. at that time, point and click combat was not so overused.
those are the sheep that find this game s combat good, because the dont know any better.So the definition of sheep is that they don't know much about RPG combat. I also wasn't aware that metacritic was for rating combat.
those are old classics, revolutionary in their time. at that time, point and click combat was not so overused.
its 2009 ffs. sorry that my standarts are not low enough to enjoy combat in this game, because i would expect better.
maybe they should stop pumping graphics, and look at things from a gameplay perspective.
the only newer game with great combat system was risen, and two worlds II.
So the definition of sheep is that they don't know much about RPG combat. I also wasn't aware that metacritic was for rating combat.
the only newer game with great combat system was risen, and two worlds II.
It's what I figured. Real-time with pause combat systems can actually be really good, if done well and lead to extremely strategic gameplay and gameplay that can be fairly hectic, because doing stuff in the wrong time can get you killed.
It's also in my opinion the best way to make a combat system for an RPG where you control multiple characters, but I guess some find that a chore. Sure Risen had fairly nice combat(don't really agree with Two Worlds 2), but try and do that combat with 4-6 characters where you control each one. It's either turn-based or real-time with pause.
I find both systems equally attractive. X-com showcases good turn-based. Icewind Dale 2 and Dragon Age: Origins does real-time with pause.
where did i say metacritic rated combat?You said people gave it a good score because they don't know better. Maybe they didn't rate the combat... Which was completely fine btw, and DAO is underrated if anything.
look, i am not saying it is a good game, it is, and i am sure lots of effort went into it, but i cant really stand how are people giving this 9/10 and 10/10.
it is an overrated game, that is what i am saying.
the problem is how lazy the combat in dao looks. like if it was an afterthought. repetitive and boring.
Risen was pretty clunky I found. Two worlds 2 was good fun though. Mind you the story was so bad and standard on both that I only played about a quarter of them.
CA has proofed they have the drive and the might to achieve a masterpiece such as Rome, and they did it again with Rome 2.
You said people gave it a good score because they don't know better. Maybe they didn't rate the combat... Which was completely fine btw, and DAO is underrated if anything.
I liked the combat. The main problem I had with DA:O was it was actually quite hard. Those dragons were damn annoying to kill if you misjudged how much healing you'd need.
Everything else about DA:O was awesome.
yeah sure keep telling that to yourself.
If you haven't noticed, it's you everyone disagrees with.
If you haven't noticed, it's you everyone disagrees with.
People like Nightmare798 are the reason Dragon age has been turning into a button mashing franchise.
as opposed to click that and watch it die franchise eh?
No, as opposed to strategic thinking and unit combination, that you dont do when you're too busy clicking on the enemy.
enemy rarely goes out and attacks you.
so it boils down to this:
send warrior to tank and use rouge to either: backstab, or stand back and spam ranged skills.
keep mage back and use all your spells and chug on mana potions.
rinse and repeat.
THATS COMPLETE STRATEGY GUIDE! CONGRATS! YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WON THE GAME!
Not sure what game you were playing. Enemy always came and attacked me.
Also not sure how this differs from most games. Even warband is an element of this. Maybe go play some 10 hour fps games more?
Could you please stop posting unrelevant things Nightmare798... this is a Rome2 topic, in case you haven't noticed.
There's something called private messages (PM) for your discussions with Adamar. And don't bring the "he started it", even if it's true, it's childish.
there is no real strategy in combat of dragon age origins.
mage: spam aoe spells as much as possible.
warrior: spam shield bash and similar skills as much as possible.
rogue: spam dirty fighting as much as possible.
traps are useless because enemy rarely goes out and attacks you.
so it boils down to this:
send warrior to tank and use rouge to either: backstab, or stand back and spam ranged skills.
keep mage back and use all your spells and chug on mana potions.
rinse and repeat.
THATS COMPLETE STRATEGY GUIDE! CONGRATS! YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WON THE GAME!
The game is making me sad at
All the damn time I wanna play PATCH -.-the moment...
PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH PATCH
Oh no, they are trying to fix things, how horrible!It is bad. They should have had the proper game in the release. Instead they tricked everybody into buying a fucking betaversion and decided to fufill their promises in a later date.
It is bad. They should have had the proper game in the release. Instead they tricked everybody into buying a fucking betaversion and decided to fufill their promises in a later date.
Oh no, they are trying to fix things, how horrible!
you know this gave me an idea for joke
how many patches does it take to make total war rome 2 playable?
it should have been playable upon release.
i have to say, best total war game for battles was empire total war imo; best one for campaign, probably medieval 2. i didn't enjoy at all shogun 2, this one is just a little better (with patches), but yes, i'm disappointed too.Meh, never really felt attacked to Empire, nor Napoleonic. The one that I most deeply got engaged in was Medieval 2. Shogun 2 is what I would call a Total war average. I had average fun with it.
i have to say, best total war game for battles was empire total war imo; best one for campaign, probably medieval 2. i didn't enjoy at all shogun 2, this one is just a little better (with patches), but yes, i'm disappointed too.
You play co-op to actually have a challenge in this game. I wouldn't bother playing co-op together with a friend. Maybe on the campaign map, but on the battlefield it is so much more interesting if it's you vs some other human being and not that ridiculous AI.
don't think you read what I wrote, co-op its you 2 vs ai so its basically at least TWICE as easy as singleplayer, more if your 2 neighbours who would normally be at war ;)
head to head can hardly be called "cooperative"
You are cooperating with someone to make this game fun? :D
So, this game is still sitting at 88 minutes played for me (crashed in prologue). Is it actually approaching worth-playing state right now?
I bought Rome 2 and loved it but everyone was saying Shogun 2 was soooo much better. I bought Shogun 2 and played it for a couple hours, I really didn't like it... I am probably never going to play it again... I don't understand..
Maybe Rome 2 is better to people new to the Total War series? The only other total war I played was Medieval 2, which I liked.
Anyways yeah, Rome 2 is great. It has some bugs but I haven't really experienced any and its been getting better every patch.
Optimization wise Shogun 2 was miles ahead but I agree, Shogun 2 campaigns were boring. The MP was pretty good but thats a different matter, as Rome 2 doesnt include the Avatar mode to make way for the Total War Arena game which is basically like the avatar system.
Shogun 2 just has a perfect mix of having the best AI in the series so far, great visuals, good optimisation, sleek, yet functional UI, a ton of features and improvements over the previous games and really well working mechanics, both on the strategic and tactical maps.
If they had picked Rome's setting for that game, it would be pretty much perfect. But, as it it, it's just Japan.
Most of those are not problems with the AI.
shogun 2 ai is one of worst i ever seen.
they camp like fuck.
It's called defending?
they use archers to kill your archers that are IN cover, and they succeed.
What? Also, not AI
what is worse that they can snipe over walls and kill those who are not in cover.
Archers can fire at stuff, so what? Also, not AI.
their general is suicidal.
This one is true, though.
many more problems that i dont really have time to write down here.
imo, medieval 2 had better ai, even tho it was a little dumb at sieges. but its not like they went full retard everytime. sometimes they were quite competetent.
Medieval 2 AI was super dumb 99% of the time. S2 AI is actually agressive and generally reacts to things you do.
note: this is the list of things that bugged me when i played unpatched vanilla, it is highly probable that CA fixed those issues.
EDIT: they also cheat like fuck and have no upkeep. when you see an ai player with two provinces, and three full stacks of troops running around, you know something is wrong.
Strategic AI, and depends on difficulty. Is sort of lame, true.
You should probably figure out what "AI" means before you take part in a conversation about AI.
Computer-controlled archers don't get any extra range.
then how can you explain that when i am on siege defence, they can just dance right in front of my maximum range and start shooting, without my troops having even a chance to retaliate?That is, once again, not an AI issue, since AI does not get extra range for their archers.
ofc there are more types of archers with different ranges, but no shooting unit should outrange another, that is on high ground.
That is, once again, not an AI issue, since AI does not get extra range for their archers.
prove it, it happens to me all the time, so what gives?I suggest adjusting the amount of medicine you're taking.
I suggest adjusting the amount of medicine you're taking.
there is really no way of leading a discussion with you.Can't discuss with someone who's seeing things that aren't there and then asks you to explain why it's happening.
can anyone give me the download link for the newest Rome II patch pls?
Since i like to auto resolve and also play on highest difficulty this is first total war series that it's impossible to do that, in all others it can work, sure you lose more troops then if lead alone, but with this one impossible, except for that its not that bad but also nothing so good like rome total war 1 was when it came out.
I dont know why would anyone ever want to use auto-resolve in any total war game, except when in situations like besieging a city/castle against few (like 30 soldiers).
I will rather fuck up myself than let AI do it for me.