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cRPG => Game Admin Feedback => Topic started by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 12:37:38 pm

Title: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 12:37:38 pm
Thx for kicking our mates because you die in 90% in the first minute and being impatient.
We demand to remove his admin rights!

Furthermore he should stay to lvl 3 for 1 month.
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lansamur on October 03, 2011, 12:40:36 pm
As I see it, he kicked the last player on the opposing team cause that guy was stuck and it saved some time. The guy would have lost anyways and thus lost his multi. See no reason to whine.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on October 03, 2011, 12:40:39 pm
To be honest Sir_Agor is the worst fucking Valour leecher ever, I'm sad Thomek didn't permaban him.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlackMilk on October 03, 2011, 12:46:31 pm
We demand to remove his admin rights!
We?

Furthermore he should stay to lvl 3 for 1 month.
What the fuck that doesnt make any sense at all.

He kicked someone who was stuck (and thus leeching),so why do you complain?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 12:47:31 pm
ehm. He said "too hard to get up"
it wasnt impossible!
Oh man and noone was STUCK at all!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lansamur on October 03, 2011, 12:48:23 pm
Thx for kicking our mates because you die in 90% in the first minute and being impatient.
We demand to remove his admin rights!

Btw, clearly you should be able to see he is still alive at the end of the round? Dayum, you oughty be blind to miss that one... Mosttimes I see Thomek playing he makes it longer than you do.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 12:50:02 pm
Btw, clearly you should be able to see he is still alive at the end of the round? Dayum, you oughty be blind to miss that one... Mosttimes I see Thomek playing he makes it longer than you do.
Oh really?
But if he dies, he just kick the last one ;D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 12:53:59 pm
Collateral, brah. Thomek needs to practice his kicking skillz on someone.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 12:59:03 pm
I dont want take thomek admin power, but here was really bad, i was on roof where every 1 can jump, mny make it, but i was last true, but what rule i break? i was fighting as my class-xbow man, i was not on unreacheble roof and i was not stuck, and i dont make draw, i jut fight for my x3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Archeress on October 03, 2011, 12:59:58 pm
As I see it, he kicked the last player on the opposing team cause that guy was stuck and it saved some time. The guy would have lost anyways and thus lost his multi. See no reason to whine.
Couldn't he suggest the stuck players to join spectator mode? Or that is just how EU admins do their jobs :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 01:02:04 pm
I dont want take thomek admin power, but here was really bad, i was on roof where every 1 can jump, mny make it, but i was last true, but what rule i break? i was fighting as my class-xbow man, i was not on unreacheble roof and i was not stuck, and i dont make draw, i jut fight for my x3
I know man, he was really rude, more rogh than rude :(
I feel sry for you. God bless you!
Dont you see guys, our fair game has been raped by thomek. We are so innocent but Thomek!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Spurdospera on October 03, 2011, 01:03:23 pm
Couldn't he suggest the stuck players to join spectator mode? Or that is just how EU admins do their jobs :P
Nobody was stuck. Thomek kicked last guy from reachable roof.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 01:09:44 pm
Couldn't he suggest the stuck players to join spectator mode? Or that is just how EU admins do their jobs :P

Unfortunately, stuck people with a x3 multiplicator tends to "feint" not knowing how to join specs. They even think, how foolish of them, that if they survive long enough, they may get the valour thingy, so still have a nice multy for next round.

On another note, there's some reachable places that are such an ass to get on top of there, that it's freaking stupid in the first place. It's like a semi-unreachable place.

Last but not least, "fighting" as an xbow when you're the last one, reloading while undercover, so none can actually shoot you down, shooting down all the guy who try to go to the semi-unreachable place, thus staying where no one can kill you, that's actually delaying.
And yep, it's kickable. The guy even admits it : he's "fighting" because he has the x3. Pff.... grinder...


On a last note, you Mr Lanic0r, are a total prick of posting such a biaised poll, with biaised topic, without any "real" proof. If it's like this that the community reacts, i wonder how we can still have eu admins, with such stupid people in the community. You'll even make your whole clan move and vote the same thing, hey ? Hey look, it's another nuffen-like anti-admin topic. Such people need to be warned or banned for 3 days to learn how to react on a forum without ruining one's reputation.

When you're the last one, just get down of the damn roof and get it over with... so many k/d ratio hungry people, playing JUST for the xp, not for the fun, and actually delaying all others. Then complaining about it. Even though it's Lanic0r who started the topic, and not the "offended".


Also nice that we have a dear "yeah, f... you" from Lanicor in the log. That's clearly some verbal abuse. It's bannable, right ?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tindel on October 03, 2011, 01:12:28 pm
Roof camping bundle of sticksry should be bannable
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 01:13:15 pm
but it was not hard reacheable roof, i was kicked allready when i was fighting vs shielder on it
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 01:15:17 pm
but it was not hard reacheable roof, i was kicked allready when i was fighting vs shielder on it


Oh, that's because its hard and takes time to find the good name on the kick list. So it takes longer. I guess during that time a shielder finally came.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on October 03, 2011, 01:15:43 pm
I had my own experience with Thomek here it is:

I was running away from an angry mob of 10-15 players, i didnt want to get ganked. They went the other way only 3 guys were following me. I asked for a duel in chat, i killed those 3 guys 1 by 1. (one of which is Korgoth i believe he can comfirm my story)

While i was fighting those 3 my team got obliterated. I went to fight the rest of the enemy team which was about 5-7 players by then. While i was running to the enemy Thomek warned me in chat not to delay. I proceeded to fight 2 shielders which were closest to me. In the middle of my fight i got kicked by Thomek for delaying.

I dont think that i was delaying because i was fighting all the time. I got in again and asked Thomek why did the kick me, he said that i was trying to be last on purpose and that i did it the round before that also.

The purpose of my post is: Please dont kick me in the middle of fighting for delaying because as slim as it looks i still have a chance to win. If you need to kick me, kick me the round after that.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 01:19:09 pm
Dont you see guys, our fair game has been raped by thomek.

Oh wait, he actually raped you? Sorry to hear man, you didn't mention that in your original post. But since that is the case, I recommend contacting the police. Remember, don't take a shower -- Biological evidence such as semen, blood, vaginal secretions, saliva and vaginal epithelial cells may be identified and genetically typed.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Paul on October 03, 2011, 01:21:43 pm
Your profiency in throwing weapons is too low
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 01:22:35 pm
Your profiency in throwing weapons is too low
THAT'S WHAT IT KEEPS SAYING BUT I SWEAR TO GOD IT IS FUCKING NOT
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Archeress on October 03, 2011, 01:22:47 pm
We all love it when the devs troll :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2011, 01:28:18 pm
I had my own experience with Thomek here it is:

I was running away from an angry mob of 10-15 players, i didnt want to get ganked. They went the other way only 3 guys were following me. I asked for a duel in chat, i killed those 3 guys 1 by 1. (one of which is Korgoth i believe he can comfirm my story)

While i was fighting those 3 my team got obliterated. I went to fight the rest of the enemy team which was about 5-7 players by then. While i was running to the enemy Thomek warned me in chat not to delay. I proceeded to fight 2 shielders which were closest to me. In the middle of my fight i got kicked by Thomek for delaying.

I dont think that i was delaying because i was fighting all the time.No you were waiting at the map edge whole round so you could be last man alive. I got in again and asked Thomek why did the kick me, he said that i was trying to be last on purpose and that i did it the round before that also.

The purpose of my post is: Please dont kick me in the middle of fighting for delaying because as slim as it looks i still have a chance to win. If you need to kick me, kick me the round after that.

The kick in the middle of fighting was your punishment. Get it?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 01:29:18 pm
say me where is in rules something about fighting on not hard reacheble roof? yes i have chances shoot they all, that s why im xbow man, every round ppl jumping on that roof, all know how, so just say me was I breaking some rule?  and it was like 2 min untill round end or even a bit more
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ginosaji on October 03, 2011, 01:31:15 pm
say me where is in rules something about fighting on not hard reacheble roof? yes i have chances shoot they all, that s why im xbow man, every round ppl jumping on that roof, all know how, so just say me was I breaking some rule?  and it was like 2 min untill round end

IMHO: No, but you're being a dick.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2011, 01:34:09 pm
Quote
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 01:36:15 pm
Quote
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.

You´re so mean, i wonder who gave you admin rights?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 01:37:48 pm
admin power is more then rules....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 03, 2011, 01:49:21 pm
Oh wait, he actually raped you? Sorry to hear man, you didn't mention that in your original post. But since that is the case, I recommend contacting the police. Remember, don't take a shower -- Biological evidence such as semen, blood, vaginal secretions, saliva and vaginal epithelial cells may be identified and genetically typed.
You almost sound like an expert.
 :lol:

And I second Thomek's post.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on October 03, 2011, 01:50:53 pm
I had my own experience with Thomek here it is:

I was running away from an angry mob of 10-15 players, i didnt want to get ganked. They went the other way only 3 guys were following me. I asked for a duel in chat, i killed those 3 guys 1 by 1. (one of which is Korgoth i believe he can comfirm my story)

While i was fighting those 3 my team got obliterated. I went to fight the rest of the enemy team which was about 5-7 players by then. While i was running to the enemy Thomek warned me in chat not to delay. I proceeded to fight 2 shielders which were closest to me. In the middle of my fight i got kicked by Thomek for delaying.

I dont think that i was delaying because i was fighting all the time. I got in again and asked Thomek why did the kick me, he said that i was trying to be last on purpose and that i did it the round before that also.

The purpose of my post is: Please dont kick me in the middle of fighting for delaying because as slim as it looks i still have a chance to win. If you need to kick me, kick me the round after that.


Basically there's a fine line between delaying to bring about a victory, and just prolonging a defeat.

Sounds like you lost so it didn't matter anyway, unless you missed the next round when you logged in. I've been kicked early in the battle when I was trying to peel off an enemy flanking attack, before the decisive clash.

There's not much point in complaining too loudly, I've used the ban polls before now to win battles. Hates to be guilty of hypocrisy...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2011, 01:53:38 pm
The day Thomek lose his admin powers I will cry, seriously I will. Thomek is one of the most efficient active admins we have and it would be a shame to lose him.

About you Agor, although I like you more then before I must say you're still one nasty roof monkey. But it's true, I'm recently seeing you getting down when you're the last one left. Keep doing that regularly and you won't have any problems.

After all, this isn't your fault. It's dev's fault for not dealing with this issue for so looong (instead we see them trolling like in Paul's case...)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2011, 02:02:32 pm
I guess you're lucky you didn't get banned for 365 days.

Nothing to see here, carry on.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on October 03, 2011, 02:05:38 pm
The kick in the middle of fighting was your punishment. Get it?

I wasnt trying to be last on purpose, ask your friend Korgoth
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2011, 02:09:15 pm
Friend??!!

Korgoth is a filthy traitor and I hate and curse him!

if you weren't trying to be the last on purpose, my bad. Sorry. But that's what it looked like to me.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 02:10:25 pm
Friend??!!

Korgoth is a filthy traitor and I hate and curse him!

if you weren't trying to be the last on purpose, my bad. Sorry. But that's what it looked like to me.
Instead of looking for excuses you should write a "well, i did a mistake" essay thomek!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on October 03, 2011, 02:23:33 pm
Your Friend Sir_my old friendor is a know roof licker and he and his kind deserve what they get every time even by mistake, karma is a bitch.

as for Thomek being wrong... well he can be wrong, we all can, all i see here is he appologising for making a mistake (to Umbra) and i wish admins would admit to their mistakes more often cuz the do make then, it would just make for a better community all together, i applaoud you for realising your mistake and appologising Thomek, wish the rest will follow your example.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 02:28:42 pm
lol prpavi , so lol to see how slow infantry and same other players hate ranged, go make only melee server and play there then
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tzar on October 03, 2011, 02:37:38 pm
I would like to dedicate this thread in Tomeks honor for being the best admin ever gettin rid of annoying players and leechers / valour whores / Roof camping twats

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on October 03, 2011, 02:38:25 pm
Hah. Getting tired of being right.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on October 03, 2011, 02:40:06 pm
lol prpavi , so lol to see how slow infantry and same other players hate ranged, go make only melee server and play there then

so lol how no skill lil pricks lick the rooftops looking for an easy kill feeling "pro" and "tactical"
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Stabby_Dave on October 03, 2011, 02:41:40 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 02:42:42 pm
He's a ninja... nuff said.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 02:42:59 pm
Instead of looking for excuses you should write a "well, i did a mistake" essay thomek!

You should write a "well, i'm a jerk and complain about admins, even when i'm not the victime, because i like to bitch".
But don't worry, i don't hate you. I just pity you. :twisted:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on October 03, 2011, 02:43:23 pm
I approve of this topic.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Kingtrisp on October 03, 2011, 02:51:52 pm
Hes a good admin but why isnt there a no vote? bit biased no?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on October 03, 2011, 02:53:04 pm
Thomek does a great job in my opinion. Everyone who gets kicked deserved it.
Kick is not a ban mind you.

And i really like this common sense rule. People should stick to that and they have no problem. Simple as that. I never got kicked once. Not once in 1,5 years of crpg...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 03:00:54 pm
Hes a good admin but why isnt there a no vote? bit biased no?

Very true.
Please add a : "No, he's only the second best".
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Christo on October 03, 2011, 03:02:11 pm
I love unbiased polls.
 :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: B3RS3RK on October 03, 2011, 03:02:46 pm
All Admins are evil.Admins are a evil race.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lanic0r on October 03, 2011, 03:05:50 pm
I just try to support my mates against rude admins.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2011, 03:10:59 pm
Actually best admin by far is Random_Dude. Never saw any admin kicking leechers in the middle of the game on siege servers, apart from him.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on October 03, 2011, 03:12:52 pm
This topic has been moved to spam?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 03:18:51 pm
I just try to support my mates against rude admins.
I just try to heal the world make it a better place for you and for me
and the entire human race there are people playing
if you care enough for the players
make a better place for you and for me  :!:

That's very nice of you.
Well, it's also very easy to make the cRPG world a better place for us. Goodbye then.
We won't see you around, but our hearts are with you. Always. <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ylca on October 03, 2011, 03:51:02 pm
If you push poll i will vote the opposite way you desire. Hate the fox news atmosphere you see.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 03:53:20 pm
Agor had it coming, imho. Camping roof and shooting people trying to get up, that ticks me off.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 03:53:51 pm
Thomek, the majority has given you the authority to kick innocent players. Do your thing!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Apsod on October 03, 2011, 03:54:36 pm
I always liked Thomek, but a while ago me and my friend was playing on EU 4. My friend just got the game and I was teaching him the basics, I left to get some dinner and when I came back Thomek had tried to permaban him because he bumped him by mistake. Thomek kicked him instead of banning him by mistake.

I do not like that kind of additude at all. It is even more important when it is a new player. Teach them how it is done instead of banning them.

I asked Thomek why he kicked him and he said that he tried to ban him, but he pressed the wrong button. He told me that my friend was being a complete asshate or something like that, because he bumped him once. Several people said that my friend had been doing nothing wrong for the past several rounds.

All in all, thomek should teach people how to play instead of banning them for a small mistake, normally if it happend  to another player instead of thomek he would not even get kicked. Banning someone new because he bumped you by mistake is the worst possible way to act towards a new player.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2011, 03:58:08 pm
Agor had it coming, imho. Camping roof and shooting people trying to get up, that ticks me off.

And you know who Sir_Agor is, how exactly?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 03:58:52 pm
Thomek is a good admin, but he does some things that from victim's point of view can seem as abusive. However I am not saying he is an abusive admin, at all. In fact he is very accommodative - toward people who are trying to play the game and not get fucked over by some leecher my old friend. Kick one player and keep majority happy and less rage-y = Worth it.

He may be a bit hasty, and a bit impatient with people. But it's all good in the book.

And you know who Sir_Agor is, how exactly?

Do you know who I am?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: dado on October 03, 2011, 04:00:53 pm
Thomek is a good admin, but he does some things that from victim's point of view can seem as abusive. However I am not saying he is an abusive admin, at all. In fact he is very accommodative - toward people who are trying to play the game and not get fucked over by some leecher my old friend. Kick one player and keep majority happy and less rage-y = Worth it.

He may be a bit hasty, and a bit impatient with people. But it's all good in the book.

Do you know who I am?
seronja ? :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 04:02:24 pm
seronja ? :D

No, I'm your fucking overlord. Now sit the hell down and keep your mouth shut.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 04:04:50 pm
No, I'm your fucking overlord. Now sit the hell down and keep your mouth shut.

No, you're actually just a wannabe heretic. Proof? It even says so under your name.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 04:06:14 pm
No, you're actually just a wannabe heretic. Proof? It even says so under your name.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 04:07:22 pm
Agor had it coming, imho. Camping roof and shooting people trying to get up, that ticks me off.

and i dont like inf , who can block everything and some cav, and what?  8-)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 04:08:10 pm
and i dont like inf , who can block everything and some cav, and what?  8-)

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 04:09:24 pm
I always liked Thomek, but a while ago me and my friend was playing on EU 4. My friend just got the game and I was teaching him the basics, I left to get some dinner and when I came back Thomek had tried to permaban him because he bumped him by mistake. Thomek kicked him instead of banning him by mistake.

I do not like that kind of additude at all. It is even more important when it is a new player. Teach them how it is done instead of banning them.

I asked Thomek why he kicked him and he said that he tried to ban him, but he pressed the wrong button. He told me that my friend was being a complete asshate or something like that, because he bumped him once. Several people said that my friend had been doing nothing wrong for the past several rounds.

All in all, thomek should teach people how to play instead of banning them for a small mistake, normally if it happend  to another player instead of thomek he would not even get kicked. Banning someone new because he bumped you by mistake is the worst possible way to act towards a new player.

I understand the all story, but some elements seems strange.
-you teach him the basics, but he's using an horse.
-i doubt he wanted to permaban him, usually it's at most a 3d ban.
-a complete asshat is not only bumping people, but also maybe misbehaving in chat. A lot of people don't care about chat message, so they say they didn't notice anything, of course.
-admins are not here to "teach" people how to play, they're here to be sure things go smoothly. YOU were supposed to teach your friend how to play.
-i hate when cav bump you "by mistake", when there's no tree next to you, no ennemies, just an open field. But the cav wasn't watching, so of course he bumped you "by mistake".
-did i already say i hated people posting other's story. "Hello, my friend was playing. I went away, don't know at all what happened, but when i came back, my friend got kicked. Instead of ban. Admin abuse i say."
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tindel on October 03, 2011, 04:10:42 pm
Quote
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.


This is so fucking great, chadz is the man
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 04:11:42 pm

dont see image :(
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ginosaji on October 03, 2011, 04:16:29 pm
dont see image :(

There you go...

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Siiem on October 03, 2011, 04:18:09 pm
I would approve but he's a ninja, so I can't.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 04:19:00 pm
Hes a good admin but why isnt there a no vote? bit biased no?

Shut the fuck up and sit down.

He is awesome, you're not.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Old_Sir_Agor on October 03, 2011, 04:20:58 pm
nope(
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2011, 04:26:18 pm
Thomek is the only one with a quick judgement of who's being an asshat and who isn't. He's not some peace loving hippy who allows everything or warns intentional tk'ers. He swiftly swings the banhammer. That's what we need to bring some order to our troll filled servers.

I'm glad other people appreciate his adminning, cause the only other hardball admin, nuffen, got his adminrights removed.

So props to Thomek, keep on cracking down!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Siiem on October 03, 2011, 04:27:30 pm
Nuffen was dumb, Thomek is not.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Apsod on October 03, 2011, 04:28:14 pm
I understand the all story, but some elements seems strange.
-you teach him the basics, but he's using an horse. He had been playing inf to level 20, and wanted to try out cav. cRPG was the first thing he ever played on M&B.
-i doubt he wanted to permaban him, usually it's at most a 3d ban. He said "Didn`t I already permaban you!?" when he came back on the server.
-a complete asshat is not only bumping people, but also maybe misbehaving in chat. A lot of people don't care about chat message, so they say they didn't notice anything, of course. He didn`t notice what Thomek said, but that is mostly because he is new to compter gaming and really new to M&B. The first thing you learn is not to always look at the chat.
-admins are not here to "teach" people how to play, they're here to be sure things go smoothly. YOU were supposed to teach your friend how to play. I tought him how to play as an inf, but I left just as he tried cav. Was I supposed to force him not to play untill I came back?
-i hate when cav bump you "by mistake", when there's no tree next to you, no ennemies, just an open field. But the cav wasn't watching, so of course he bumped you "by mistake". The map was nord town. It is a hard map for cav and when you are not used to the controlls it is really hard not to bump one or  two team mates.
-did i already say i hated people posting other's story. "Hello, my friend was playing. I went away, don't know at all what happened, but when i came back, my friend got kicked. Instead of ban. Admin abuse i say." It was pretty much a simple story, I found out how it went perfectly fine without being there.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2011, 04:33:10 pm
Don't you dare touch the only admin that applies common sense in his adminning. Thomek has an accurate asshat radar and unlike the other admins he isn't afraid to use it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 04:38:08 pm
I understand the all story, but some elements seems strange.
-you teach him the basics, but he's using an horse. He had been playing inf to level 20, and wanted to try out cav. cRPG was the first thing he ever played on M&B. Fair enough. But usually, we tell future cRPG users to try SP BEFORE.
-i doubt he wanted to permaban him, usually it's at most a 3d ban. He said "Didn`t I already permaban you!?" when he came back on the server. Screenshot or it didn't happen. Or he's confused with someone's else name, or your friend is a prick, and while he was playing "alone", he did bannable things. Happen.
-a complete asshat is not only bumping people, but also maybe misbehaving in chat. A lot of people don't care about chat message, so they say they didn't notice anything, of course. He didn`t notice what Thomek said, but that is mostly because he is new to compter gaming and really new to M&B. The first thing you learn is not to always look at the chat. How can you not notice a pink text ? First thing you learn is to ALWAYS look and read pink chat text.
-admins are not here to "teach" people how to play, they're here to be sure things go smoothly. YOU were supposed to teach your friend how to play. I tought him how to play as an inf, but I left just as he tried cav. Was I supposed to force him not to play untill I came back? Yes, not to play cav at least. He could play more rounds at inf, couldn't he ? I'm happy you found it by yourself.
-i hate when cav bump you "by mistake", when there's no tree next to you, no ennemies, just an open field. But the cav wasn't watching, so of course he bumped you "by mistake". The map was nord town. It is a hard map for cav and when you are not used to the controlls it is really hard not to bump one or  two team mates.That's a very good choice of map for learning how to play cav. Irony inside.
-did i already say i hated people posting other's story. "Hello, my friend was playing. I went away, don't know at all what happened, but when i came back, my friend got kicked. Instead of ban. Admin abuse i say." It was pretty much a simple story, I found out how it went perfectly fine without being there. Yes. Luckily there's admins online. Next time, i'll try out xbow, and how actually teamhits happens when i shoot in melee. But hey, i'm new. I just started xbow and my tutor went afk. I'm innocent.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Apsod on October 03, 2011, 04:47:04 pm
1. I agree with you, it is best to try out SP first, but he really wanted to test cRPG.
2. I did not think I would ever need a screenshot of it, so I did not take one.
3. I agree that he should see the pink text. But when you are testing a new game and you see all different colours, like red, green, blue and grey and then suddenly pink you don`t all the sudden react to pink instead of all the other colours.
4. I thought he would be fine, maybe he would bump a team mate once or twice, but hey. Every cav does that.
5. He did not decide to test cav because it was Nord town, it just came when he had just bought a horse.
6. Shooting team mates with a crossbow by mistake is not ban worthy, it is worth a warning at the most. Bumping team mates by mistake is even less bannable.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 05:00:43 pm
Bah, wrongs happen. Hope he's learned his mistake, if he ever did something bad, or else, learned that you should always be careful around admins. Sometimes they have a bad day, they're still humans.
Though some bumps are more worthy of being kickable than others. When the guy bumps you, you get shot to death, and he doesn't even say sorry, even though he's clearly the responsible of your death, same in melee duels, etc... It's hard to judge thoses cavalry, so i really advise (imho) new players to "spectate" cav players in cRPG, and try out 8 riding skill in native or sp before. Cause yes, it's hard. But when you "learn" in cRPG battle, while actually really bumping down teammates all the way, lancing friends, then it's another story. The best place to learn things is in SP. Else you're actually ruining the fun of the other players whom have played SP before, and find it infuriating that a newbie come and bump them, and think he can play cRPG right now, and will get away with it since he's a new player. The future of cRPG.

I'm pretty sure your friend, apsod, doesn't have any more problems with admins anyway. So, even if there wasn't any mistake from him, the lesson is learned. That's the main point.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Joxer on October 03, 2011, 05:17:55 pm
I've had a soft spot for this guy for a very long time. Back in the early days we were the few ninjas on the server. More than often we chose the same route as enemies and epic duels ensued. Now there's 20 ninjas in each team  :cry: Also he is a film maker. They rule. And he is a chainsmoker like me. And... and... yeah he is the best (no I'm not giving you a virtual bj).
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 03, 2011, 05:28:20 pm
To be honest Sir_Agor is the worst fucking Valour leecher ever, I'm sad Thomek didn't permaban him.

this. and would be more probable to see someone naked killing phyrex with fists by chambering his thrusts and swings rather than thomek abusing admin rights.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2011, 05:39:02 pm
Apsod, I recall we had a discussion, but not what happened exactly, so I'm not going to delve into it.

For sure it must have been a very blatant and a purposeful-looking bump for me to react like that. Just.. nothing pisses me off more than inconsiderate cav players or deliberate bumpers. A purposeful teamkill is a clear-case, but often infantry players don't even get the chance to even see WHO did it do them. Sometimes it's even hard for me with my terminator name cheat *admintool to see names cluttered by others and far away. Bumping is like spitting on someone, except you have no way to fight back or block..  (REVENGE TEAMATTACKING ALSO BANNABLE btw)

And I'm sure that for every time I (Admin+Easy to recognize) get a bump, every other cRPG player get's 3 bumps. Therefore I react hard to that.

Also, contrary to what Bulzur said, I rarely give out 3d+ bans. I kick a lot, and give short 1h-6h bans if appropriate. (Giving people a break, sending them away from crpg for the night) So most likely if I planned to ban, it would have been a short one.

But yes, I do mistakes. But people raging over kicks however unfair should calm down. Wait until you grow up and have to deal with the real world! I consider kicking the wrong person a positive life-lesson for that person.

Anyway, Apsod, I hope I didn't scare your friend away.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: RandomDude on October 03, 2011, 05:54:43 pm
Actually best admin by far is Random_Dude. Never saw any admin kicking leechers in the middle of the game on siege servers, apart from him.

it's RandomDude lol thx ^^

good thread btw - nice to see some admin-love going on
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2011, 06:15:23 pm
I'm touched :)

Thanks for the support!

I take this support as a blank check to abuse even moar!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2011, 06:39:07 pm
I hate thomek with every single cell of my silly body.


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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Apsod on October 03, 2011, 06:42:10 pm
Hehehe, fair enough. My friend is still playing, and he is enjoying the game.

I know it is really annoying to get bumped like that, but sometimes you just gotta let it go.

I still want you as an admin tho, you are doing a great job :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2011, 07:25:04 pm
Lol nice job at squeezing two topics into one big one, its completely messed up now.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bagge on October 03, 2011, 07:57:44 pm
The day Thomek lose his admin powers I will cry, seriously I will. Thomek is one of the most efficient active admins we have and it would be a shame to lose him.

+1
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on October 03, 2011, 11:07:39 pm
Also, contrary to what Bulzur said, I rarely give out 3d+ bans. I kick a lot, and give short 1h-6h bans if appropriate. (Giving people a break, sending them away from crpg for the night) So most likely if I planned to ban, it would have been a short one.

Damn, now everybody knows you still have work to do. 3d+ bans are the real deal.^^

The big inconvenient of this topic being moved here, is i can't -1 Lanic0r's posts. :'( It would have been very good for my psychological health to see his opening post hidden, thanks to a -10 or more from the community. Bah... i'll deal with it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Rage_Guy on November 04, 2011, 04:44:36 pm
I hate thomek,thats all.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 04, 2011, 04:59:33 pm
aww...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on November 04, 2011, 09:39:10 pm
And that's why I love Thomek.

When I grow up, I wish to be him.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 05, 2011, 03:27:03 am
awwww!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on November 07, 2011, 10:17:00 am
Thomek is clearly one of the best admins this mod ever had.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Korgoth on November 09, 2011, 03:11:08 am
Thomek is the Yoda of Admins.

Yoda of Admins, Thomek is.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: HarunYahya on November 09, 2011, 08:01:19 am
Guys mod will be dead without thomek's abuuz.
Accept him as he is .
Late night EU_1 = Fun because of him.

Dont want to get banned ?
Behave when you see Thomek since he's the only just admin with humour.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on November 09, 2011, 05:37:23 pm
Thomek gj, the delayers can hate, QQ all they want. Keep banning those bundle of stickss
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mithlodir on November 09, 2011, 08:27:38 pm
While i do like consistant admins (and Thomek is def. consistant 8-) ) i will say this:
Sometimes it feels like Thomek's Ban/Kickhammer trigger finger is a bit too itchy and quite often it comes without warning.
I suspect alot of the QQing ppl would like a warning before the hammer of doom strikes *shrug* just my 2 coppers.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 13, 2011, 02:18:38 am
Some1 stop that wanker. Crossbowers who can reload in 1 sec are not delayer.

Make a poll for him and see the result.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 13, 2011, 02:22:25 am
ok Knight whatever, was that you?

Anyway, I've observed him for 2 hours tonight, last man standing half the rounds, almost never kill anyone.

An xbower who does very little damage. On a roof with 4 armoured assholes waiting for him downstairs.. He gets a warning earlier the same night.. Then a kick, then 2 warnings to get down from the roof, he doesn't listen, but replies "Reachable". Someone knows the rules here.

No point in kicking someone a second time in 2 hours. He got 1h ban.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: justme on November 13, 2011, 03:11:40 am
deserved..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Kocik_4th on November 13, 2011, 12:00:44 pm
You did same thing while i'm playin as main with masterwork arbalest and bolts. i run away for reload xbow (i could kill every1 by 1 hit) and you kicked me for "delaying". I never need valour, gold, exp, etc. Just trying have fun. Why people wrote;

-abooze
-Thomek enough!
-This is not fair
-You should warn him first

When u join a server every1 says "shiittt! Thomek came". Don't let people hate you.

and last, while i was playing as xbower, if im last on round everybody were watching me with real fun for jumpkills, shotguns etc. Last man standing is sometimes good.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: djavo on November 13, 2011, 01:50:27 pm
Yesterday I alt tabbed from COD MW3 and I saw this situtation. Wolves_Dado teamhitted Phase, Phase killed him afterward. Result.
Thomek banned Dado for 3 hrs for th, and Phase for 3 mins for tk. It looks funny what do you think?
I repeat I alt tabbed dont know what happened before but it was kinda strange, like when someone touches your balls and your alone.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 13, 2011, 02:58:24 pm
Dado team hitted and shot phase many
Times. Phase revenge tkd him..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Herkkutatti on November 13, 2011, 04:54:35 pm
I hate thomek,thats all.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on November 13, 2011, 06:19:42 pm
Thomek, the grandmaster of the common sense rule!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on November 14, 2011, 02:00:38 am
Thomek, the grandmaster of the common sense rule!
All hail the Grandmaster!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: HarunYahya on November 14, 2011, 02:48:48 am
Kocik, if you see thomek in server, drop your arbalest and play like a man.
See ? Solution is simple  :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on November 14, 2011, 08:38:35 am
I alt tabbed from COD MW3

This is why your post is wrong
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vexus on November 15, 2011, 05:48:00 pm
I have nothing against you but you really are a happy trigger on kicks for delays you give people less then 3 seconds to respond then poof kick.

I remember the old days were ninjas where few and many times ended being last players in team yet no one claimed they were delaying, from the amount of times I saw you online most of the delay kicks are from enemies not implying anything just pointing it out as you seem to hate waiting but that is not a good excuse imho.

While there is that rule for common sense for people it should go both ways as I'm sure if you were last in your team I'm sure you wouldn't kick yourself for delaying if you were throwing from some roof or far from the enemies.

Your a good admin and I wouldn't want to see you go down but lighten up the kicks give people some time to respond/react not 3 seconds which is not enough time to even reply.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Spleen on November 15, 2011, 06:00:02 pm
He's like nuffen, but with admin rights.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: RandomDude on November 15, 2011, 09:11:14 pm
HI IS THE BEST!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SchokoSchaf on November 16, 2011, 11:09:51 am
He has no spamberge, RANDOMDUDE!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 16, 2011, 01:00:06 pm
Vex i think u are right im a bit fast sometimes. Ill try to count to ten more often.. But kicks? They are my warning..

I like fast gameplay, because battle has potentially a lot of waiting. Especially for new players who cant survive so long. When somoene is always the last in their team, and their score doesnt reflect it, as they are hiding or roofcamping or even worse, the hardcore valourfarmers, i do tend to react fast. Delaying can be many things, but mainly people that are running when its hopeless, camping some far away or near unreachable place gets kicks. If they dont catch the drift after kicks and warnings i tend to bam them for the evening.

I like crpg to be more action and less unneccesary waiting for everyone. Keeping up the tempo!

But ill try to count to ten more.. :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on November 16, 2011, 06:46:45 pm
Vex i think u are right im a bit fast sometimes. Ill try to count to ten more often.. But kicks? They are my warning..

I like fast gameplay, because battle has potentially a lot of waiting. Especially for new players who cant survive so long. When somoene is always the last in their team, and their score doesnt reflect it, as they are hiding or roofcamping or even worse, the hardcore valourfarmers, i do tend to react fast. Delaying can be many things, but mainly people that are running when its hopeless, camping some far away or near unreachable place gets kicks. If they dont catch the drift after kicks and warnings i tend to bam them for the evening.

I like crpg to be more action and less unneccesary waiting for everyone. Keeping up the tempo!

But ill try to count to ten more.. :)
NO! These people are the worst annoying players! Please don't count to ten. Or at least, do it so everyone can see the countdown. Keep the game swiftpaced! Waiting is boring!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on November 18, 2011, 10:25:10 am
Vex i think u are right im a bit fast sometimes. Ill try to count to ten more often.. But kicks? They are my warning..

I like fast gameplay, because battle has potentially a lot of waiting. Especially for new players who cant survive so long. When somoene is always the last in their team, and their score doesnt reflect it, as they are hiding or roofcamping or even worse, the hardcore valourfarmers, i do tend to react fast. Delaying can be many things, but mainly people that are running when its hopeless, camping some far away or near unreachable place gets kicks. If they dont catch the drift after kicks and warnings i tend to bam them for the evening.

I like crpg to be more action and less unneccesary waiting for everyone. Keeping up the tempo!

But ill try to count to ten more.. :)

As you should. IMO you are doing a very good job, and I think vast majority of players you encounter know that.
And don't count to ten, I just can't picture ninja admin doing that.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on November 22, 2011, 09:20:52 am
thomek is a true ninja in all of his forms... even the admin one  :lol:

a sneaky ninja kick to the last rooftop camper is priceless.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Trikipum on December 19, 2011, 04:29:52 pm
Thomek is a good admin, but sometimes a bit harsh with lamers. Btw, who is that khorin?... isnt him that guy who was begging thomek in battle server for an admin few months ago?...hmmmm....Thomek where is my admin!!!!.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 19, 2011, 04:46:10 pm
Yeah. That's how I got my admin rights.

Thomek hands them to you if you ask him. If he says no, just continue begging. He'll cave eventually.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Nebun on January 05, 2012, 06:59:56 pm
Can you keep stuff about Russians to yoursefl? we fed up with this shit, when everyone is talking to us - mentioning nation in a bad way.

Did you ever see us mentioning someones nationality in jokes, or when arguing with someone?
We've got enough of this crap from regular players and mercs, is it too hard for admins to avoid using this?

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 05, 2012, 07:16:06 pm
Did you ever see us mentioning someones nationality in jokes, or when arguing with someone?

In the past? Sure.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jacko on January 05, 2012, 08:49:35 pm
Nebun, you Russian, shut up and accept power abuse.

(Could. Not. Resist.)
 
:lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Xant on January 05, 2012, 09:56:38 pm
He even said "xD" after it. Stop taking yourself so seriously.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on January 06, 2012, 12:35:43 am
Nebun, sorry it was a bordeline "Joke". (thats why it was funny..)

But i know, not so funny for those who live in that crap everyday. I have a small small taste of it myself in poland everyday. I hate myself for becoming numb to injustice and power abuse. But there is no way around it, one would go crazy then.. Anyhow, I guess it was also meant as a little stick for russians to rise and protest! Ffs im so happy of the recent movement and protests you have!! So there is my irony spelled out.

Good luck over there :)  i was just poking the bear a bit.. Hopefully waking him up a bit from the sleep.

Cheers!

(so the joke was really a hidden message to you russians, get it? :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on January 06, 2012, 09:56:25 am
Did you ever see us mentioning someones nationality in jokes, or when arguing with someone?

We sure as hell saw it but we couldn't understand it because you're writing with your hieroglyphic letters.  :wink:


Anyhow, I guess it was also meant as a little stick for russians to rise and protest!

That's what they do best.  :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on February 02, 2012, 12:09:23 am
I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of admining from Thomek, some random guy makes a ban poll on some other random guy, and first after the poll has been launched (should have been done before according to the official server rules), the guy claims that the other guy is an autoblocker (which this guy really can't know and therefore he's breaking another poll-rule "NOT OK: poll-kicking someone because you don't like his playstyle") the guy got no evidence, and after the poll is (for some reason) passed with 56% and the innocent good blocker gets banned Thomek completely ignores the poll, and doesn't even post (neither in his magic admin text 'nor in normal text) that such a poll is not allowed... he completely ignores my demand that he at the very least talks to the guy and go on playing, I'm extremely disappointed in you Thomek...
(I may or may not have launched a kick-poll on Thomek (which somehow got passed, even I voted "2") for fun earlier, which was on him having 1x, he knew I said I'd launch the poll and ignored it, etc)
EDIT: Incase it isn't obvious my post isn't real serious or anything... more just me passing time while on 1x in rageball.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on February 02, 2012, 01:11:14 am
Didn't notice the ban poll.. I noticed you polling me though.. and chose to ignore it :)

I just couldn't care atm..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 17, 2012, 08:22:22 pm
THOMEK YOU GAY SWEDISH PIECE OF SHIT GO FUCK YOURSELF
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 17, 2012, 08:39:44 pm
He is Norwegian who currently lives in Poland...

Thomek, are you still married?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on March 17, 2012, 10:45:20 pm
i lol'd.

About time some banned Zlisch.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Antiges on March 17, 2012, 10:55:38 pm
Khorin, zlisch said to call you a 'stupid piece of shit'
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gurnisson on March 17, 2012, 10:55:44 pm
THOMEK YOU GAY SWEDISH PIECE OF SHIT GO FUCK YOURSELF

Permaban for calling norwegians swedish. y/y?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BD_Baby_Wolf on March 17, 2012, 11:13:04 pm
Permaban for calling norwegians swedish. y/y?

permaban for national and sexual orientation discrimination! I wouldn't like to play with players like these, really.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 17, 2012, 11:23:54 pm
Ban he! For being mean, obviously.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 17, 2012, 11:55:31 pm
He practically begged for the ban. Just 24h though.. I was in a gokd mood. I dont mind him calling swedish.. He followed me to duel server and continued harassing me much worse even after mute.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on March 18, 2012, 12:05:56 am
What a moron, 24h ban is way too lenient IMO.
 
And using swedes as an insult? Not okay! :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on March 18, 2012, 12:19:59 am
lol
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 18, 2012, 01:13:02 am
Can someone be arsed to perma this guy? He is obviously asking for it..  Im not really neutral on this.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Antiges on March 18, 2012, 01:52:32 am
HAHA, someone got Thomek's steam name?...see if i cant be asked to get that permabanned...god how having friends high up in valve and shitloads of cash helps you in life... :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 18, 2012, 04:20:23 am
lfmao!

yeah, spend your money! DO IT!!!!!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on March 18, 2012, 09:54:04 am
In reality, I'm really only 12. My daddy is a dishwasher and my mother likes to molest me sometimes.

What a joke. Like  this is  the first time someone we're hearing  the "friends in high places" threat on the internet? :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Antiges on March 18, 2012, 02:09:58 pm

 I'm an 11 year old swedish boy, my dick is quite tiny and I'm very ashamed of it... I jack off to my gay looking anime avatar... I'm just sad that Thovex hates me.  'cuss I'm secretly in love with him...



Two can play at the immaturity game mate...only one of us is a failure in life though, a sweedish 19 year old who is probably unemployed and in a rehab center...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gurnisson on March 18, 2012, 02:59:41 pm
Two can play at the immaturity game mate...only one of us is a failure in life though, a sweedish 19 year old who is probably unemployed and in a rehab center...

Better watch it, boy.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bulzur on March 18, 2012, 06:34:02 pm
Thomek is nice.
But too nice.

Some times, a good 7 days ban is the only good choice.
And during thoses 7 days, you think about a permaban.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on March 18, 2012, 07:00:45 pm
Thomek is a square-headed abuser.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on March 18, 2012, 07:01:15 pm
Two can play at the immaturity game mate...only one of us is a failure in life though, a sweedish 19 year old who is probably unemployed and in a rehab center...

 
Yeah I'm in super ordinary Swedish rehab facility. I was too cool for them so they locked me away, damn government! Swedish government plots to conquer the world with IKEA, I used to be an employee (like everyone else in Sweden)there but since I found out about their plans of world domination, Ingmar Kamprad and the Swedish government have now locked me away in their model bedroom dungeon! They're using the zero-variety-method of torture, feeding me with only meatballs and lingonberries.
 
What they fail to realize is how I have hacked myself into a nearby villa's WiFi (it didn't have a password!) and am masterminding  a large scale rebellion (check out the Facebook event!) aiming to bring down the Swedish regime and end their tyranny! I find that their model beds are very comfortable, however, so I see no reason to plan my escape just yet! It's best to work under your enemy's nose sometimes, where they least expect it!
 
Down with tyranny, down with IKEA! Put your life together, not your furniture!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Antiges on March 18, 2012, 07:18:23 pm
I have sweedish meatballs every day...only way to go :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 18, 2012, 07:39:17 pm
Thomek is a square-headed abuser.

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Just because I called your racist countrymen, and a whole bunch of other nations in europe genetically and culturally backwards? It's true! And you know it!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 18, 2012, 08:07:49 pm
Thomek is not abusive at all, I'm often there when he's on late at night and I've never seen him abuse. I don't say this cause he is my master and I must do his will, but because it's true. He may be a bit more strict than other admins when it comes to some things, but that it not abusive.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 18, 2012, 08:32:42 pm
He is Norwegian who currently lives in Poland...

Thomek, are you still married?

No. Wanna hook up?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on March 18, 2012, 09:08:25 pm
It's true! And you know it!

And we're damn proud of it, you can shove your "culture" you know where !  :twisted:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on March 22, 2012, 01:43:44 am
Only one way to fix this. Blanket ban NA!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 22, 2012, 12:41:07 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mamba on March 24, 2012, 11:05:39 pm
No trolling but serious.

This evening Thomek banned Bandit_Franky for 2 days (on EU_1)
As a reason he said Franky was already warned and kicked for excessive spectating.

In my whole 17? years of gaming I never had an admin who kicked somebody for spectating. I guess its a first time for everything.
It may sound hilarious but I doubt its fun for Franky.

Being admin doesn't mean you can do what you want being admin means work.
That includes kicking spectators to free up slots but not punish them for spectating.

Thomeks morale decisions are flawed. I demand justice.
And I am not the only one who thinks that is wrong, Im just the first to write it down it seems.

edit: Server added (yep sry was EU_1 I changed it :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on March 24, 2012, 11:08:51 pm
Yeah, seriously, you can't just make up the rules. There is no rule against spectating, and Franky wasn't abusing anything, he simply forgot to turn off the game.

Btw, I saw again "Once upon a time in the West" last night. Little Timmy?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 24, 2012, 11:12:42 pm
Yep, I have to agree with Mamba and Corwin. Tho it was EU1 and not EU3 ;)

But banning for spectating is just bullshit. That's what spectators are for. I am hoping that someone will overrule this decision and maybe even delete the admin rights for Thomek.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 24, 2012, 11:15:11 pm
lol yeah, thats my avatar. Great movie!

Seriously guys, the ban to Franky was justified. Since he PM'd me we are in touch. No need to elaborate the whole story here if he doesn't wish to.

In general, there is a COMMON SENSE rule. When someone has an agreement, been warned and kicked by admins many many times, but still don't change, there has to be some consequence. 2 days is not extreme, and quite lenient compared to what many others would give.

It's a lack of respect respect to always hang out in spec because they don't want to wait in line to get into EU1. That means everyone else has to wait in line, even when a player doesn't play for a long time.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 24, 2012, 11:16:55 pm
And no, this doesn't happen to just anyone going spec.

This if for the ones that abuse the spec system repeatedly over a long long time.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 24, 2012, 11:19:40 pm
Still... there is a spectator "section" for a reason. Besides there is this new thing called multiplier-reset.
You're the first admin ever to ban a player for being spec. Everyone else is kicking them to make room except mighty Thomek? Different rules for you?

Aunt Edit says...

Respect has to be earned. You sure as hell didnt earn respect in the EU1 community with this decision.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 24, 2012, 11:25:13 pm
So you think it's ok that players just use the spec system whenever they go afk even for hours?

Do you think there's always admins there to clean up that list?

You think its ok that you and everyone else have to wait an extra 3 minutes every day to get into a full EU1 because there are 3-5 players who can't be bothered to exit the server?

If someone has been kicked, warned, banned, but still doesn't change for over a year, you still don't think its time for a harder ban?

Give me a break..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on March 24, 2012, 11:28:32 pm
Just don't forget what Frank(y) did to Little Timmy. :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mamba on March 25, 2012, 03:45:30 am
Dude, even you have admin NOW means you can do what you want.
Being admin is a privilige, you have authority as such but banning for spectating is nothing you can do as admin and get away with that.

AND YES admins duties are to clean up the shit and look after the server, not just looking if you can kick and ban tkers cheaters and racists.
If you dont like that you don't deserve being an authority who looks after a community where theres over 100 people online primetime.

I think you can gain back some reputation by an apology in the forum and the unbanning of Franky. And anyone who would not agree with that is stupid and a mental and social iceblock.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 03:57:15 am
And who are you exactly?

Are you lecturing me about admining? I'm not worried about my reputation. Read this thread for a start..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mamba on March 25, 2012, 09:00:30 am
I'm somebody who makes posts for a reason. Don't get me wrong, I have no idea what your former reputation was or probably is.
I respect any admin for simply being an admin, and you could take my word for it wthat when I'm not saying anything I'm happy as it is.

Why would I read this thread? To know what wondrous work you have done? How nice you exactly are?
This thread is about feedback for you and noone else, and I did just that I stated my opinion.

If you are not happy with it fine. I just wanted to make sure you know that I and others don't understand why you banned him. Especially on a weekend.

Quote cmpx server rules:

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everything else is arbitrary in my eyes.

Then again that post may be old and cmpx should add a section of excessive spectating. Unless FranI love you behaviour being a spectator is idiotic or offensive in any way, maybe for you but not for the majority of the community.


Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 25, 2012, 09:29:18 am
Quote:"NOT OK: Standing around away from keyboard. If you're away, switch to spectator mode"
It obviously doesn't matter for how long you're away. Just a fail ban. Nothing else. And there's no argument you can come up with which is going to change that.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 11:21:53 am
I am annoyed when i can't get into a server.
I guess those who are complaining here are too at times.

Common sense:
I don't do to others what i don't want others to do to me.

case:
I don't want others to use space they don't need, because they are not there to use it and i instead then can't use it either.
Actually i don't want selfish dudes to hinder me joining a server while they are afk and the only reason they are on the server is so they don't need to wait to get into the server again.[edit: and i have done the very thing myself and i can see my hypocrisy and still feel that it was wrong]

my opinion:
This can be punished if the admin has informed the spectators or tried repeatedly to get them to make a peep that they are actually spectating and not only using up space. As people are hindered from joining the servers in this way, they are hindered from having fun. Indirectly they are grieved even if it is not obvious on first thought. Punishments for grieving can be way higher then a 2 days ban and for repeating this stuff over and over again it should be higher. Also to make this point clear to all, taking it into the official rule set would be preferable, still it can be judged by the common sense rule.

As Thomek stated, he is in contact with Franky, perhaps you guys should chill and give that a bit more thought, before you go all out on Thomek.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 12:26:28 pm
Maybe more people should read the beginning of the rules:

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on March 25, 2012, 12:31:11 pm
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You missed a bit

"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz


And you even posted this yourself, care to read it and apply it to the situation at hand?

If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.

Your common sense is clearly not working so leave it to the people that do have common sense. Thomek happens to be the one admin that is not scared to ban anyone because it is not explicitly stated in the rules, even if its clearly ban deserving and that is what makes him the best admin we currently have. Now shuss!

EDIT: Aww Thomek beat me to it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 25, 2012, 12:45:17 pm
Thomek happens to be the one admin that is not scared to ban anyone because it is not explicitly stated in the rules, even if its clearly ban deserving and that is what makes him the best admin we currently have. Now shuss!

EDIT: Aww Thomek beat me to it.
So, it is ban deserving to be in spec? Also, I've seen Ujin be afk for a shitload of time ALIVE in the duel server, if I took screens and posted them in the ban section would anyone take me serious? No, would I even myself be serious? No... but, when a guy in spec gets a two day ban for being in spec (you can and should ALWAYS just kick instead of ban specs, lol, and Ujin gets away with actual leeching due to no one giving a fuck about him filling up a slot in the duel server then that's fucked up.
FREE FRANKY!!!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gurnisson on March 25, 2012, 12:48:05 pm
and Ujin gets away with actual leeching

You don't get any gold/xp without dueling.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 12:52:47 pm
*and the duel server is never full.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on March 25, 2012, 12:53:18 pm
So, it is ban deserving to be in spec? Also, I've seen Ujin be afk for a shitload of time ALIVE in the duel server, if I took screens and posted them in the ban section would anyone take me serious? No, would I even myself be serious? No... but, when a guy in spec gets a two day ban for being in spec (you can and should ALWAYS just kick instead of ban specs, lol, and Ujin gets away with actual leeching due to no one giving a fuck about him filling up a slot in the duel server then that's fucked up.
FREE FRANKY!!!

This also goes for you:

Your common sense is clearly not working so leave it to the people that do have common sense.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on March 25, 2012, 01:01:18 pm
Common sense would be if you just kicked him like the rest of the spectators. Like every single admin in this game does when the server is full
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 01:13:22 pm
About Franky.

1. He had been warned.
2. He had been kicked for it countless times.
3. I've banned him for it previously
4. Spoken to him, told him to stop, and why.

Other than that I think he's a great guy, and have no animosity towards him whatsoever. Never had any other problems with the guy.

Generally.
5. cRPG is not your screensaver.
6. It's Asshat behaviour to never leave the server since you can't be bothered to wait in line.
(If 200 players have to wait 1 minute every day because of him, over a week that's him wasting about 24h of other peoples time.)
7. It's fine to go spec and be AFK once in a while, and I've never banned anyone else for it.

*Fluffy. It's not common sense to just kick someone for the nth time when they are clearly abusing for over a year.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 01:15:33 pm
Common sense would be if you just kicked him like the rest of the spectators. Like every single admin in this game does when the server is full
while i agree that "a normal cause of action" would have been to just kick him, Thomek stated clearly, that Franky has been doing this for now nearly a year AND that he(Thomek) asked him(Franky) not to do so ... repeatidly. Still i don't see Franky here arguing with Thomek, as the only other one who has really something to say about this case whereby me and the other dudes taking sides here just fill in the void. So why is it that Thomek and Franky get along via email and others see the need to argue about something the person in question(Franky) doesn't make a fuzz about?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 25, 2012, 01:23:44 pm
You don't get any gold/xp without dueling.
And did Franky get gold while being afk in spec?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 01:31:08 pm
And did Franky get gold while being afk in spec?
that wasn't the point here, but using up a playerslot while being afk and therefor denying another player to actually play.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 25, 2012, 01:43:58 pm
The point isnt how Franky and Thomek get along.
Point is... who's gonna assure me now that I wont get banned out of a mood for being spec while taking a piss? If this kind of ban spans out we're all screwed.
Besides... you're losing the multi now for being spec too which only punishes the honest player anyway.

It's a general line that has been crossed and that should be discussed.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ujin on March 25, 2012, 01:50:25 pm
So, it is ban deserving to be in spec? Also, I've seen Ujin be afk for a shitload of time ALIVE in the duel server, if I took screens and posted them in the ban section would anyone take me serious? No, would I even myself be serious? No... but, when a guy in spec gets a two day ban for being in spec (you can and should ALWAYS just kick instead of ban specs, lol, and Ujin gets away with actual leeching due to no one giving a fuck about him filling up a slot in the duel server then that's fucked up.
FREE FRANKY!!!
this is gold.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 01:56:26 pm
The point isnt how Franky and Thomek get along.
Point is... who's gonna assure me now that I wont get banned out of a mood for being spec while taking a piss? If this kind of ban spans out we're all screwed.
Besides... you're losing the multi now for being spec too which only punishes the honest player anyway.

It's a general line that has been crossed and that should be discussed.
i see your point and yes this maybe now seen more on a regular base, still if there are indications that an admin himself wouldn't apply the common sense rule with ... common sense you would see me here on the other side of the argument. So it will be always a thing which needs to be checked out, case by case.

Aslong you only take a piss, you would be back after a few minutes and playing again, an admin who takes his job serriously will be aware of that. But if you are away for hours, the admin gave several notifications(proofable through server logs) and then either kicked you(there shouldn't be an argument at all) or banned you, because he sees a pattern in the behavour of the player and states he warned him over several weeks on and on again, then there also shouldn't be an argument but it will be one if either the player in question is a) a dick or b) is been treated unfairly. Whereby b) will always be the exception of the rule. There is normaly noone out there to hunt you down and give you grieve only you are who you are, but we make mistakes and often we fear to face our own mistakes which results in us being dicks.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 01:57:33 pm
this is gold.
man i just remembered you are now admin ... gold indeed .. congratz btw and may the force be with you
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Frankysan on March 25, 2012, 02:39:34 pm
Thomek i have no problems with you , and i'm trying hard to behave like a grown boy, but man what the fuck

how can i be warned when i am afk? and please check again, you never banned me. If u did and was for the same reason the ban was so short when i came back to keyboard it was expired.

Aside from this, this is what i think:

Kicking specs is your job, and it's not exactly like working in a salt mine, so you could really cut this bullshit and let me play. No offense taken, as you said we get along really well, and we'll keep doing even if i stay banned, but please think of it 2 times before giving ppl 2 days ban for being afk 40 mins.
Plus, you play 1 hour a day and you feel like you can judge my afk too long? seriously i played 6 hours yesterday and for taking a coffee and smoking a cig i get this cool present...

hope you got the point; i'm sure you think to be right, but talking about common sense is really stupid mate when everybody consider this insanely excessive.

i can't play a game where i can't go afk, just use your fingers to kick specs.

 i hope at least rules are same for everyone and you'll better be ready to kick "VIP" players as well.

I will have to ask leshma how to lick asses properly, looks like it's the only way to play this game
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 02:44:43 pm
this sounds now completely different.

So Franky what you say is, you normally don't camp the server even if you are out for a longer smoke or afk for while, you allways log off?

Also on a second account, Franky you have never been told that you shouldn't be camping the server and using up slots this way?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Frankysan on March 25, 2012, 02:51:44 pm
this sounds now completely different.

So Franky what you say is, you normally don't camp the server even if you are out for a longer smoke or afk for while, you allways log off?

Also on a second account, Franky you have never been told that you shouldn't be camping the server and using up slots this way?

i have been told by thomek that i sit too much on specs, because of me often leaving in a hurry.

I also often get back from my buisness and i find myself kicked, wich is  totally fine.

I don't see any reason to justify the ban. Kicks are there for a reason, and so are admins. This is how it works all around the internet.

EDIT: And NEVER EVER anyone told me i would have been banned doing this. What thomek told me previously when i rejoined server after kicks was "franky, had to free slots" not "franky next time i'll ban you for 48 hours"
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 03:22:03 pm
*In my book you are a VIP player franky. I really don't differentiate, but generally expect better behavior from players that know the rules.

I recall having warned you that I would ban you if you continue your practice of sitting around in spec 24/7.. It's true that the last one was a short ban of a few hours or so.  (Yes I agree, long time ago, but still)

Here is my POV on the situation:

I log on EU1 primetime on a saturday. 10 spectators, full server. I wonder if franky is there, scroll down, and there you were, like you seem to be always whenever I check. I'm sure other admins can confirm your habit. Not because they are my friends (which they are not really. I'm rarely in IRC. I know them as well as any other active player), not because I'm asking for support.

I know it might have seen random and a bit brutal out of the blue, but this was the drop in a huge tank that made it flow over. The thing is there is no way to warn you when you are not there. Perhaps it was a bit sudden and harsh, in that case I am sorry. Still though, you are not that innocent here.

I'm tired of kicking you, of spending my time warning you. I'm also thinking about all the players that don't get to play or have to wait because of you..

FYI im suggesting a rule change to deal with this. Doubt it will be taken in though, because there are not that many using spec or keeping cRPG on all the time blocking slots. You are unique in this sense. :)

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 25, 2012, 03:25:32 pm
How about an autokick system that kicks players who are in spectator team more than 10 minutes?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 25, 2012, 03:29:14 pm
How about you stop complaining of being tired? You're an admin and it's your job - don't like it? Then gtfo...
And I have to agree with Franky that you are barely on EU1.
Even Meow spend more time than you on EU1 and I never see him warning or banning someone for being in spectator.
But I guess it's pointless to discuss this any further. All I see is someone being ignorant and overwhelmed by himself.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 25, 2012, 03:33:35 pm
Making someone aware of sth while he isn't there is a tough cookie.

I support your efforts to make this part of the rules Thomek, only to make it absolutly clear to others that this also counts to grieving.

I would let it slip for Franky if he would promise to really try and change here, but that is upto you both.
If Thomek decides against it, Franky then take it like a man(wanted to say wolve but well ...)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 25, 2012, 03:42:27 pm
I will have to ask leshma how to lick asses properly, looks like it's the only way to play this game

Hehe, I knew you would mention me in some way.

Consider this two day ban as a punishment for that little idea of yours to teamkill me for no reason :wink:

I don't blame Vagabond because I know it was YOURS idea and all those stupid things bandits do from time to time are either yours or Prpavi's fault. I really don't understand why they ban Panos all the time, other than mild trolling and sometimes prolonging the rounds, he plays this game how it should be played.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 25, 2012, 03:45:43 pm
How about you stop complaining of being tired? You're an admin and it's your job - don't like it? Then gtfo...
And I have to agree with Franky that you are barely on EU1.
Even Meow spend more time than you on EU1 and I never see him warning or banning someone for being in spectator.
But I guess it's pointless to discuss this any further. All I see is someone being ignorant and overwhelmed by himself.

Believe it or not benkei. I'm just trying to make cRPG a smooth experience for everyone. I'm doing this so YOU don't have to wait an extra 2 minutes every day to log onto EU1. Being and admin is not a popularity contest, I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else think about me. Someone has to take those nasty calls and sometimes I do. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong, but what can you do? I'm doing my best here.

Keeping out leechers, griefers, teamkillers, racists, delayers, all kinds of sinister trolls, keeping cRPG friendly and smooth is what I try to do. And I don't mind some mild abuse or fun. I even like panos as he's at least a real and creative entertainer at times.. (If you read this don't get too ballsy though..)

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on March 25, 2012, 03:48:48 pm
Hehe, I knew you would mention me in some way.

Consider this two day ban as a punishment for that little idea of yours to teamkill me for no reason :wink:

I don't blame Vagabond because I know it was YOURS idea and all those stupid things bandits do from time to time are either yours or Prpavi's fault. I really don't understand why they ban beer all the time, other than mild trolling and sometimes prolonging the rounds, he plays this game how it should be played.
Funny things you think to know. Believe me when I tell you that you are not even close as important to all of us as you think you are. You're just a laugh now and then in teamspeak. That's it...


And tbh... I've never heard or read about people complaining about waiting those 2 minutes. I do sometimes and I certainly dont mind cuz it's never longer than 2-4 minutes.

Aunt Edit again...
Besides there are several other server which are never full. It's not like anyone is kept from playing. There are always free slots!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 25, 2012, 04:34:04 pm
A 2 day ban might have been a little harsh, but if franky really does do this on a regular basis he did deserve a harder punishment than a kick, a 3 hour ban or so might have done the job, but I'm not the admin here.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Frankysan on March 25, 2012, 04:44:02 pm
*In my book you are a VIP player franky. I really don't differentiate, but generally expect better behavior from players that know the rules.

I recall having warned you that I would ban you if you continue your practice of sitting around in spec 24/7.. It's true that the last one was a short ban of a few hours or so.  (Yes I agree, long time ago, but still)

Here is my POV on the situation:

I log on EU1 primetime on a saturday. 10 spectators, full server. I wonder if franky is there, scroll down, and there you were, like you seem to be always whenever I check. I'm sure other admins can confirm your habit. Not because they are my friends (which they are not really. I'm rarely in IRC. I know them as well as any other active player), not because I'm asking for support.

I know it might have seen random and a bit brutal out of the blue, but this was the drop in a huge tank that made it flow over. The thing is there is no way to warn you when you are not there. Perhaps it was a bit sudden and harsh, in that case I am sorry. Still though, you are not that innocent here.

I'm tired of kicking you, of spending my time warning you. I'm also thinking about all the players that don't get to play or have to wait because of you..

FYI im suggesting a rule change to deal with this. Doubt it will be taken in though, because there are not that many using spec or keeping cRPG on all the time blocking slots. You are unique in this sense. :)

i got your point man and as i said, i still consider you the "best" (with more common sense) admin around, no hard feelings.
Just had to tell you i consider this retarded  and  it's the first time i see a ban for this reason, but no big deal...i'll just leave server whenever i'm not sure about how long i'll be afk!


Now please stop breaking thomek balls, he was doing his job and if it's fine for me it should be for you as well...
If you feel like stalking someone focus on Leshma please!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Frankysan on March 25, 2012, 04:49:11 pm
Funny things you think to know. Believe me when I tell you that you are not even close as important to all of us as you think you are. You're just a laugh now and then in teamspeak. That's it...

THIS
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on March 25, 2012, 04:56:56 pm


Now please stop breaking thomek balls, he was doing his job and if it's fine for me it should be for you as well...
If you feel like stalking someone focus on Leshma please!

This.

Thomek is not nuffen, he doesn't do stuff like this to show that he is the boss, he does what he thinks is right.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on March 25, 2012, 05:35:07 pm
Hehe, I knew you would mention me in some way.

Consider this two day ban as a punishment for that little idea of yours to teamkill me for no reason :wink:

I don't blame Vagabond because I know it was YOURS idea and all those stupid things bandits do from time to time are either yours or Prpavi's fault. I really don't understand why they ban beer all the time, other than mild trolling and sometimes prolonging the rounds, he plays this game how it should be played.

dear Leshma you know nothing about the Bandits, Franky or me.

u were in bandits/trollbears/my old friends for 6 months atleast, never came to TS and when u came once we welcomed you and were glad youre on TS like Leshma finally how are u man and shit. U spoke 3 words in half and hour and left without saying even bye. O.o

im not trying to hide the fact that that episoded combined with your forum outbursts made me not really like you. and i dont like you.

but im not opsessed with you and really dont give a crap. i just find your attention whoring episodes pathetic to be frank. you are the one with the Bandit complex and feel its your duty to comment everything we do and be the one that points the finger to the davs/admins yes its them! they are whats wrong with this mod! in a pathetic attemt to bring yourself closer to the chadzboys assholes.

mentioning my name in this thread is uncalled for, i had no idea what was happening untill now and i see my name splattered here. classy shit bro.

have a nice day.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ujin on March 25, 2012, 06:04:55 pm
man i just remembered you are now admin ... gold indeed .. congratz btw and may the force be with you
Thanks =).


*Get's the hell out of the thread
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on March 25, 2012, 06:10:23 pm
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I see a warning(s) in the picture!  :twisted:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mamba on March 25, 2012, 06:56:35 pm
Ye warning.

How in the seven hells are you supposed to read them WHEN YOU ARE AFK EVERY TIME YOU ARE BEING KICKED.

Common sense.

For those with an IQ below average.

Warning-kick and there is no chatlog. How will you ever know what the admin said before he kicked you.
You don't even know the reason

Really SgtTeeth

Common sense.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: RandomDude on March 26, 2012, 12:13:10 am
Nuffen mk II gogogo!!!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2012, 12:21:11 am
i dont like you.

Feeling is mutual.

And I have a good reason why I didn't stay longer on TS with mic on and why I left without goodbye and never again turned on my mic on TS.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 26, 2012, 12:46:15 am
Feeling is mutual.

And I have a good reason why I didn't stay longer on TS with mic on and why I left without goodbye and never again turned on my mic on TS.
Did they...
...rape you?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2012, 01:01:30 am
No, they were very nice.

But they are all boys and I didn't found their jokes funny so I left...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 26, 2012, 01:48:17 am
Now suddenly curious on Leshma's favored humor.

Must rethink a few things, perhaps for the better.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 26, 2012, 02:13:52 am
Bullshit, no way you're a girl leshma.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Logen on March 26, 2012, 02:26:17 am
and never again turned on my mic on TS.
Something wrong with your voice?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Diomedes on March 26, 2012, 04:31:17 am
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on March 26, 2012, 08:16:07 am
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I don't blame Vagabond because I know it was YOURS idea and all those stupid things bandits do from time to time are either yours or Prpavi's fault. I really don't understand why they ban beer all the time, other than mild trolling and sometimes prolonging the rounds, he plays this game how it should be played.

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And I have a good reason why I didn't stay longer on TS with mic on and why I left without goodbye and never again turned on my mic on TS.

But they are all boys and I didn't found their jokes funny so I left...


WoW, we've got a grown-up serious person here.



Bullshit, no way you're a girl leshma.

He isn't. He is a very impolite guy actually, cause if you join/leave TS with some people on it the minimum of decency is to say/tpye Hi or Bye (at least once in your multiple visits), especially if the atmosphere is healthy and no one is harassing you. And he obviously has personality issues that he treats in some weird ways on this forum.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on March 26, 2012, 08:26:27 am
Ajde momci polako
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 26, 2012, 10:14:52 am
soooooooo ...... Leshma is a girl?  :lol: (edit:not laughing about that, but that i do now understand all the bitching)

if so, Bandits it was very unwise to treat her like a man, you possibily lost the only chance to get laid(even if only virtual cybersex)
at all, in your entire life, ... , come on guys look at yourselves .... (having a great laugh here rofl)

Leshma peace, i do respect women, even if at times my jokes may be mysogenic, but that has more to do with my own insecurities then any thing about women(i guess thats the case with a lot of men/boys)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on March 26, 2012, 10:35:38 am
soooooooo ...... Leshma is a girl?  :lol: (edit:not laughing about that, but that i do now understand all the bitching)

if so, Bandits it was very unwise to treat her like a man, you possibily lost the only chance to get laid(even if only virtual cybersex)
at all, in your entire life, ... , come on guys look at yourselves .... (having a great laugh here rofl)

Leshma peace, i do respect women, even if at times my jokes may be mysogenic, but that has more to do with my own insecurities then any thing about women(i guess thats the case with a lot of men/boys)

Kinngrimm, he isn't a woman more than you are, just another attention whore whose mommy just didn't hug him enough. Although that would explain some of the retarded posting and unprovoked biatching.

And regarding Cybersex, you should know that Bandits already have a dedicated channel on their TS for that, where young boys can relax after exhausting day on cRPG.

On topic: Thomek stays cool in my book, no need to further contaminate his topic with Leshma talk.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: kinngrimm on March 26, 2012, 10:42:46 am
...
And regarding Cybersex, you should know that Bandits already have a dedicated channel on their TS for that, where young boys can relax after exhausting day on cRPG.
...
i know  :wink:, but isn't it mostly you and beer[edit: wtf i still can't write freekin P|A|N|O|S?] having some fun there?
A women would change your life, at least she would try to ^^
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2012, 01:15:05 pm
You are the one with the Bandit complex and feel its your duty to comment everything we do and be the one that points the finger to the davs/admins yes its them! they are whats wrong with this mod!

Of course it's their fault. Without them there would be no reason to whine because there wouldn't be cRPG in the first place. What you guys did worth of mention, flattened all maps leaving floating trees everywhere...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on March 26, 2012, 01:31:31 pm
Of course it's their fault. Without them there would be no reason to whine because there wouldn't be cRPG in the first place. What you guys did worth of mention, flattened all maps leaving floating trees everywhere...


missed my point completely....  :rolleyes: what i meant is that you point the finger at Bandits and think you could get in dev/admin asses just by badmouthing us.

bold: still more than u ever did  :wink: atleast Gazda tried something unlike the true keyboard warrior like urself that just sits on his ass and criticizes.

btw. atleast 5 maps u play atm is a Bandit member map, get ur facts right before u start slandering next time.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on March 26, 2012, 01:44:54 pm
What you guys did worth of mention, flattened all maps leaving floating trees everywhere...

Oh the irony, you're talking about Gazda's failure which has absolutely nothing to do with anything.......random failure that requires Gazda's profail photoshop skills:

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2012, 01:54:49 pm
what i meant is that you point the finger at Bandits and think you could get in dev/admin asses just by badmouthing us.

I never did that. There are Bandits members I don't like but it's not that I'm badmouthing the whole clan. It's the mob mentality that makes you think that I'm doing so, even if I'm arguing with just one of your members. That goes for every clan out there. And I have nothing to do with devs or admins. Meow is the only admin that is being nice to me and he is nice to everybody.

bold: still more than u ever did  :wink: atleast Gazda tried something unlike the true keyboard warrior like urself that just sits on his ass and criticizes.

It's true that I wasn't productive at all... yet.

btw. atleast 5 maps u play atm is a Bandit member map, get ur facts right before u start slandering next time.

I know that. Vagabond's maps are my favorite maps.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on March 26, 2012, 02:16:07 pm
1.I never did that. There are Bandits members I don't like but it's not that I'm badmouthing the whole clan. It's the mob mentality that makes you think that I'm doing so, even if I'm arguing with just one of your members. That goes for every clan out there. And I have nothing to do with devs or admins. Meow is the only admin that is being nice to me and he is nice to everybody.

2.It's true that I wasn't productive at all... yet.

3.I know that. Vagabond's maps are my favorite maps.

1. Ok fine, but you do jump at all bandit related topics spreading the "light"

2. I hope u do and make this mod better.

3. Your point? Fail troll maybe? This is just what im talking about, u talkin smack like what have you done u lousy Bandits, u did nothing for the community and then you say ye i know your member makes maps and i like them...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 26, 2012, 02:33:38 pm
Can you please take this quarrel somewhere else?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on March 26, 2012, 02:46:03 pm
Can you please take this quarrel somewhere else?

Please no, leave them, this is juicy <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Logen on March 26, 2012, 03:11:08 pm
Please no, leave them, this is juicy <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on March 26, 2012, 03:44:33 pm
Can you please take this quarrel somewhere else?

im done with this anyways ill put Leshma back on my ignore list.

only thing im asking is Leshma please leave my name out of your mouth, we have concluded we dont liek each other so theres no further point in communicating or slandering each other in the future. if you need to say something to me send me a PM.

sry for the annoyance all.

p.s. Thomek youre SWEDISH!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on March 26, 2012, 03:53:48 pm
Can you please take this quarrel somewhere else?

No, we prefer arguing on Swedish territory surrounded by lots of squareheads.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on March 26, 2012, 04:23:05 pm
Ok I won't start calling you other nationalities then...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on March 26, 2012, 08:34:23 pm
[EU] Leshma?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2012, 09:27:01 pm
I'm sorry, Franky provoked me. I'll try to ignore his comments next time.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on April 04, 2012, 11:01:47 pm
What, come on guys you're all respectable chaps. Why reduce to this?

Leshma for example, lately you've really earned my respect (don't know what the fuck you did).

And Bandits, you're also pretty cool guys. Albeit most of you suck(!), you compensate with making the game hilarious.

Really can't get my head around why you'd start bitching at each other. Normally I'd pour oil on this flame but seeing how it's you guys I just want it resolved ASAP!!!!!  :mad:

And lol and failgrimm actually believing Leshma was a girl. :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Renay on April 04, 2012, 11:15:04 pm
ASAP as in 2 weeks after last post?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on April 04, 2012, 11:18:55 pm
ASAP as in 2 weeks after last post?

Derp.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on August 02, 2012, 03:50:05 am
... Tonight I said I love you and that you were the best admin...

You said I was sucking your dick and you will remember my name...

I answered I love your dick cause is sweet for me...

Next round I was the last survivor and I drop my weapon to be fast killed by the noob in  front of me (we was fighting 1 VS 1 for minutes but he cant kill me even I was in peasant clothes with fork) I wanted to make the round short for other palyers... I hate when the last guy fight alone during hours...

At this moment, a stupid cav come and TK my opponent !

And then you kick me from the server...

Can you explain why you did that ? I really love you.....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Sarpton on August 02, 2012, 03:53:15 am
Hilarious.  Would lol again.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 03:57:27 am
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+1 to PEPE. Would read again, for realz
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on August 02, 2012, 04:03:38 am
Our love is impossible....

I clothe like you, I run like you, I follow you around the entire map, hiding behind walls like you..... I jump to take the arrow wich come at you (aouch ! it hurts but it is for you so I keep smile on my face)

When ennemy comes, I run at your side to help you and then..... WHAT DO YOU DO ???? YOU TH ME ??!!!

My heart is bleeding...

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But I still love you so much.... I think I will cry about this....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on August 02, 2012, 04:12:01 am
I DIED AT YOUR SIDE THOMEK.... I M PROUD OF THAT !
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on August 02, 2012, 04:24:24 am
I just saw peasant at spawn at the end of round who loves me. I naturally simply kicked him, I cannot differ between those who love me and those who hates me.

I'm the batman of admins after all.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 02, 2012, 04:35:29 am
Abuse lust was too big
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on August 02, 2012, 04:57:57 am
Pepe saved him from the evil Jarlen and his crossbow :(

Yet Thomek not love him :(

Thomek, hvorfor elsker du ham ikke?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Muki on August 02, 2012, 05:03:41 am
should move this into his feedback thread :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: dreadnok on August 02, 2012, 05:31:23 am
can we get separate forums from these retards. thx
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 05:34:01 am
can we get separate forums from these retards. thx
No
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 02, 2012, 07:38:18 am
INJUSTICE! This was a great thread!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: HarunYahya on August 03, 2012, 08:31:42 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on August 03, 2012, 09:17:27 pm
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If I could, I would +1 that :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Noctivagant on August 03, 2012, 10:21:24 pm
I'm the batman of admins after all.
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: djavo on August 04, 2012, 01:58:01 pm
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MATT DAMIEN!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 02, 2012, 07:28:50 pm
So the guy was fighting but Thomek kicked him for "delaying".

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This is fucking ridiculous. I already raged loooong time ago in some thread where he kicked a guy who was still fighting but was a last guy against 10. Thomek has done this shit way too long and way too often. Why the fuck does he even have admin rights anymore? They should've been removed long time ago.


Every player has a right to fight. It doesn't matter are there 1 or 20 enemies left you have a right to fight. Delaying is when you run away as melee.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 07:30:56 pm
Thomek is the best admin this mod ever had. Screw you, chocolate chip cookieltzu.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BASNAK on October 02, 2012, 07:31:45 pm
Counted 3 mounted ranged chasing him. wat. How is that delaying?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Everkistus on October 02, 2012, 07:32:10 pm
This is retarded, why would he kick someone who is still fighting back, even a HA.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 02, 2012, 07:33:14 pm
This is retarded, why would he kick someone who is still fighting back, even a HA.
Because he is Thomek <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Cicero on October 02, 2012, 07:37:42 pm
I got HX alt as far as all the community know and i always lerroooy charge when im the last one because its bullshit to delay just check it 20 vs 1 and he is still running away

Good Job thomek you its better ban him because those turkish GKs except battalgazi always delay Goztepe ,Casanowa , Otto Knight
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: _GTX_ on October 02, 2012, 07:39:06 pm
Well i guess this can get debated, since a HA can pretty much ''fight'' for several minutes, if there is only melee infantry left.

But this is clearly not the case, just saying since fighting back is a very wide term.

Edit(to above post): Obv whole community knows... lol.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Dexxtaa on October 02, 2012, 07:41:15 pm
Look at all those fucking horses.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Segd on October 02, 2012, 07:45:21 pm
Counted 3 mounted ranged chasing him. wat. How is that delaying?
I saw about 4-5 & his life was almost over. There was no delaying at all.

Btw look at the first screen. I doubt, that doublekilling could be considered as delaying.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Idzo on October 02, 2012, 07:45:53 pm
Thomek is my old friend. He doesn't respect anyone when it comes to kicking (wich is good, rounds are shorter :) )
He aboose his admin rights but most of time i'm cool with it.

So, loosing admin who makes game lot dynamic and quicker specially in late hours wouldn't be good thing.

I support Thomeks "aboose" so don't take away his admin rights!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Iymore on October 02, 2012, 07:46:15 pm
what is that fallen brigade thing bottom of the gold?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Aseldo on October 02, 2012, 07:46:58 pm
More admins need to kick some asshat on a horse running around for 3 minutes delaying the fuck out of the round when it's obvious they have no chance of winning.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2012, 07:56:30 pm
There's horsemen chasing him.  I've seen Rohypnol win rounds 1v8 before when he was a horse xbow.  And I've seen other similar circumstances as well.  If the guys is fighting, then he's fighting. 

Flags pop up if it's a horse archer or horse xbow as the last one alive after like 4 minutes left in the round.  Have some fucking patience, or better yet, protect your own fucking archers so they can take him out. 

Whining bitches with A.D.D.   Have some patience, or join the siege server.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Laconicus on October 02, 2012, 07:57:39 pm
You can understand if he's doing it to lots of infantry who have no chance to get him, but look at all the cav, this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 02, 2012, 07:58:13 pm
Looks to me like Thomek was dead and getting impatient.

But being impatient isn't grounds for kicking someone out of the server.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 02, 2012, 07:59:54 pm
Looks to me like Thomek was dead and getting impatient.

But being impatient isn't grounds for kicking someone out of the server.


80% of the kicks happen when Thomek is dead, HOWEVER he doesn't kick the player if it's in the same team (at least I've never seen that happen).
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gravoth_iii on October 02, 2012, 08:03:00 pm
I do agree on kicking HA/HX when they are playing super defensive and is the last one alive against like 5+ infantry that cant reach him. But on that pic there are a couple of ranged peeps hunting him which could end it quite quickly, abooz but i dont think thomek should lose admin because of it, he is one of the few i see actually kicking delaying peeps and stuff when it is needed. Allthough this one was a bit unneccessary.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 02, 2012, 08:03:32 pm
what is that fallen brigade thing bottom of the gold?
Guess its a teamspeak overlay showing whos in the TS with him.

On topic:

Afaik rule is: delay is if you dont put up a fight and only drag a round out.
Puting up a fight is NOT delaying.
Dont hate on HA just because YOU dont like their style of play. I dont hate on 2handers either (not too much at least)
IF someone is delaying a round there are the flags that stop it...

Pure Adminabooze. And if I remember correctly I think I have seen Tomek doing similar stuff in the past :/


€:
I do agree on kicking HA/HX when they are playing super defensive and is the last one alive against like 5+ infantry that cant reach him.
I actually have seen ppl turn a 5++on1 around and some of them were HA/HX.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 08:03:53 pm
Pretty sure after like the 100th thread about that one NA HX the devs came with a statement saying that as long as he's actively shooting it's not delaying.
Oh and Gravoth, we bought warspears just for you, apply!

BTW: Inb4 Thomek comes in and cries about cav needing a nerf.
EDIT: And even if you don't remove his admin rights at least give him the ban you'd give a guy for kickpolling.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 08:04:44 pm
It's a complete disgrace for this game that people who weren't even here when the first chicken was born now have some custom titles describing their shitty personalities while legends like Thomek whom not only were here from day 1 but they present the essence of what this mod should be all about get slacked & slandered by these halfwits & imbeciles.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 02, 2012, 08:05:44 pm
You guys are missing the point that this has happened MANY times before, This is only a time where I actually take screenshots to prove.


A lot of your answers show how this game has become 100% grinding to some of you. To some of you the game isn't anymore about actually playing it, it's rather all about the xp, gold and multiplier.
Every person has right to play the game (=fight), as I mentioned before. It doesn't matter are you gonna lose on certain or not you still have the right to enjoy playing the game (in case you're delaying, which Thomek's victims have not be doing).
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vex. on October 02, 2012, 08:06:30 pm
Well we have all seen Jackie Chan when he does some amazing last stands vs 10 people and wins...
Let the my old friends play!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 02, 2012, 08:07:02 pm
80% of the kicks happen when Thomek is dead, HOWEVER he doesn't kick the player if it's in the same team (at least I've never seen that happen).
Faitly sure I lost that round to the kick. And I'm fairly sure Thomek was on the Ninja side.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Laconicus on October 02, 2012, 08:11:27 pm
Faitly sure I lost that round to the kick. And I'm fairly sure Thomek was on the Ninja side.

This must fall in to the other 20% then, not like it matters anyway. There was no good reason for what he did here and it has happened numerous times before.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Aseldo on October 02, 2012, 08:12:20 pm
You guys are missing the point that this has happened MANY times before, This is only a time where I actually take screenshots to prove.


A lot of your answers show how this game has become 100% grinding to some of you. To some of you the game isn't anymore about actually playing it, it's rather all about the xp, gold and multiplier.
Every person has right to play the game (=fight), as I mentioned before. It doesn't matter are you gonna lose on certain or not you still have the right to enjoy playing the game (in case you're delaying, which Thomek's victims have not be doing).

I don't enjoy the game sitting around for 10 minutes watching a HA/HX run around forever killing maybe 1 guy out of 20. I could probably calculate how many rounds end with a horse xbowmen or horse archer by himself taking up 3+ minutes to die and I guarantee it'd be 75/100 rounds.
Call me impatient Idgaf, but whatever I don't play anymore anyway
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 02, 2012, 08:15:27 pm
I've seen players lose admin status for way less.

Then again, he's one of the few active "with balls to act".
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 08:15:30 pm
(in case you're delaying, which Thomek's victims have not be doing).

Quite an interesting statement, coming from a proven chocolate chip cookie worshiper.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 08:16:58 pm
I don't enjoy the game sitting around for 10 minutes watching a HA/HX run around forever killing maybe 1 guy out of 20
Good thing rounds aren't 10 minutes then.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 08:18:41 pm
...coming from a proven chocolate chip cookie worshiper.
Quite an interesting statement, coming from a proven retard.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 02, 2012, 08:23:33 pm
I got HX alt as far as all the community know...

But you fucking suck balls at it Cicero, no one is care when u delay cause we all on multis after stomping your team for 5 rounds.


NOW ON A SERIOUS NOTE

I have many screens of Thomek abusing his admin for example, being lanced like a tool for running off by himself like a ninja *what a joke, he makes no effort whatsoever to screen his movements, just runs off to the side, if he was any good at fighting HE would delay each round by randomly exploring map edges, but he dies to 1st horseman who sees him*

He then used admin chat to make the threat "Next guy who lances me gets a kick", next round he randomly ran off again, and again was lanced, in the same spot he was killed the last 5 rounds. True to his word, he kicked the player. He kicked a guy with his admin power for killing him...thats not abuse right? Anyway, I have screens of that and many more of his "amusements", hes a fucking menace, and when he joins the server you KNOW its gonna be "Everyone plays my way of fuck off" time untill he GTXs cause still after all this time he hasnt evolved his gameplay from what worked 2 fucking years ago.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 02, 2012, 08:26:03 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Siiem on October 02, 2012, 08:27:01 pm
Quite an interesting statement, coming from a proven chocolate chip cookie worshiper.
Quite an interesting statement, coming from a proven retard.

These are both valid points. How they are relative to the subject of "Thomek abusing his admin powers" I disagree partly. Here's why, gentlemen... and karasu.

As one of these occurrences were containing a GK left as the last (I will use the term) 'pissmy old friend' alive, not even muhammed, Tor, Allah, Buddha or the mighty Zohan Dvir could have saved that round. If it's not obvious, yes it's sarcasm... even a marshmallow dipped in morphine could win that round.

As such, Wiltzu using this as a example is devoid of all reasoning and this whole thread = Svada.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 08:29:14 pm
Quite an interesting statement, coming from a proven retard.

Ouch, a bad-ass wannabe. Shall we count your posts trying to pull it off ?  :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 02, 2012, 08:29:45 pm
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: _GTX_ on October 02, 2012, 08:30:15 pm
Ouch, a bad-ass wannabe. Shall we count your posts trying to pull it off ?  :P

Plz keep it to the subject of the OP.

Edit: nvm leshma posted.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 02, 2012, 08:33:10 pm
It's a horsearcher fighting 20 enemies alone. That is not fighting and it's definitely not worth keeping a 100 people waiting.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 02, 2012, 08:33:58 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 02, 2012, 08:35:39 pm
I confirm this, unjust kick and I had already hit him with 3 arrows on my STF HA alt, I was about to finish him off when Thomek steals my kill. :?

Anyway, this was a very bad call and I'm glad someone screened.

Faitly sure I lost that round to the kick. And I'm fairly sure Thomek was on the Ninja side.

So according to you, we should kick all players who happen to be last man standing, regardless if they're fighting back, solely on the grounds that they have no chance to affect the outcome of the round? Okay, let's save everyone the trouble and kick every Ninja from the get-go, they have no effect on the outcome anyway.

Seriously Khorin, if you're going to defend your master, at least provide better arguments. The bias reeks from your post.

I don't have anything personal against Thomek, but IMO, no matter how long you've been around, it does not grant you the right to interpet the rules in certain ways for the sake of your own convenience. I advise you to resign, it's the only right thing to do after what you did to Goztepe.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 02, 2012, 08:35:54 pm
Neither is it delaying if he is fighting, and how do oyu know there are 20 the OP says 1 or 20, i count max 5 or 6 i can see

Top left of the screenies say there's 20 dudes.

But either way, it shouldn't matter. The dude who got kicked wasn't breaking any rules.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 02, 2012, 08:36:12 pm
Neither is it delaying if he is fighting, and how do oyu know there are 20 the OP says 1 or 20, i count max 5 or 6 i can see
The screenshots shows it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Artyem on October 02, 2012, 08:36:43 pm
It's a horsearcher fighting 20 enemies alone. That is not fighting and it's definitely not worth keeping a 100 people waiting.

He's being chased by at least 2 other visible ranged horsemen, and he's clearly already been shot and you can assume he's fighting (or at least trying to.) He wasn't even given a chance, it's just an ornery admin doing what he does best.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 02, 2012, 08:38:23 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: TurmoilTom on October 02, 2012, 08:38:53 pm
He's being chased by at least 2 other visible ranged horsemen, and he's clearly already been shot and you can assume he's fighting (or at least trying to.) He wasn't even given a chance, it's just an ornery admin doing what he does best.

Not just trying to fight. He was doing well.

If you look at the chat log screenshot he already killed two dudes after he became the last one on his team.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 02, 2012, 08:39:32 pm
Plz keep it to the subject of the OP.

Edit: nvm leshma posted.

You mean, we should stick to Chop Thomek's head off topic?

I would like to hear Tears opinion first, cmp's will come a bit later and he'll close the thread.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 02, 2012, 08:40:12 pm
READ UP: bottom of page 2, my post: Thomek does this stupid shit all the time, kicking ppl cause HE is bored, kicking players for killing HIM, didnt even bother to screenshot him when I was playing a 1hander with some throwing, I ran off to map side each round just to find him, killed him 3 rounds running with javelin headshot, 4th round I couldnt find him, turns out he had been lanced already, but I didnt see that on the HUD, so I asked in pub chat "Wheres Thomek?", kicked a second later by him, rejoined and his reason was: "Dont troll me"


The guys a fucking menace, if you want Ill dig up old abuse screenshots of him, tell me if community wants them.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2012, 08:42:39 pm
I don't enjoy the game sitting around for 10 minutes watching a HA/HX run around forever killing maybe 1 guy out of 20. I could probably calculate how many rounds end with a horse xbowmen or horse archer by himself taking up 3+ minutes to die and I guarantee it'd be 75/100 rounds.
Call me impatient Idgaf, but whatever I don't play anymore anyway

Which is obvious to anyone who reads your posts and does still play the game.  Months and months ago they implemented a system where the MOtF pops up if the last person alive is on a horse (and I think the horseman needs to have a bow or xbow equipped) and it's less than 4 minutes left in the round. 

If you're too impatient to wait for 3 minutes of the round to expire before going ape shit, then you're doing something wrong.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 02, 2012, 08:44:28 pm
Personally, I've seen this same situation at least 10 times if not a lot more. Couple of times I've got in argument with Thomek about it.

If you ask me, it's part of cRPG just like Thomek is.

Many other things are part of cRPG, like admins ignoring their clanmates on the battlefield, abusing their power in different ways than this, using known glitches to get an advantage...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 08:47:32 pm
This mod clearly lacks more Thomek's.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2012, 09:03:02 pm
This mod clearly lacks more Thomek's.

(click to show/hide)

So let me get this straight, the point you're trying to make is

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Retards gonna retard.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Rumblood on October 02, 2012, 09:06:07 pm
Many other things are part of cRPG, like admins ignoring their clanmates on the battlefield, abusing their power in different ways than this, using known glitches to get an advantage...

You know why Thomek can get away with bullshit like this? Its because of the slander and lies like this one that is stated about Admin's in general. I didn't take a clan for almost 2 years, and certainly avoided it to sidestep the bias accusations. However, I realize that no matter what, no matter how even-handed you may be, there will always be some asshat who claims bias because they are butthurt. Most often it is someone who desperately wishes to be an Admin, but will never, ever, get it. Like ever.

The boy who cried wolf didn't get any action when shit was real either.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 02, 2012, 09:06:20 pm
Neither is it delaying if he is fighting, and how do oyu know there are 20 the OP says 1 or 20, i count max 5 or 6 i can see
Ofcourse in this event a kick was unneccesary, yet most of you people seem to think that if someone is fighting he is not delaying.

Now imagine this case with 20 people left on one team but without horses. Would he be allowed to keep shooting arrows for the remaining 4:15? I draw the line at someone having no chance of winning, maybe in the old days Jackie was able to kill 12 people on his own. Those days are over. In such situations one is allowed to shoot a few arrows, but should then switch to melee or dismount.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 02, 2012, 09:06:27 pm
So let me get this straight, the point you're trying to make is

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Retards gonna retard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ELoFRrUrcYQ#t=222s
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Pentecost on October 02, 2012, 09:06:37 pm
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet but is probably worth taking into account is the fact that this admin all but robbed that HA of a multiplier. Considering that said HA was the last guy alive against 20 people, his team probably got steamrolled hard that round; even so, he apparently was fighting quite well despite the impossible odds. There's a very good chance he would have gotten valor and had at least a 2x as consolation for the next round were it not for him being kicked.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 02, 2012, 09:08:35 pm
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet but is probably worth taking into account is the fact that this admin all but robbed that HA of a multiplier. Considering that said HA was the last guy alive against 20 people, his team probably got steamrolled hard that round; even so, he apparently was fighting quite well despite the impossible odds. There's a very good chance he would have gotten valor and had at least a 2x as consolation for the next round were it not for him being kicked.
Heh, horsearchers don't get valour even if they hit every single arrow.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Everkistus on October 02, 2012, 09:10:09 pm
Just a moment before this escalates into admins are biased/unbiased/etc shitstorm.

I agree with Wiltzu on this one. I was also playing there at the time and the HA didn't do anything warranting a kick. There's no reason to intervene if it's not absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 02, 2012, 09:12:35 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Miwiw on October 02, 2012, 09:20:01 pm
I will always agree with Wiltzu.

It's shame enough a nicely skilled HA got kicked.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2012, 09:20:52 pm
Ofcourse in this event a kick was unneccesary, yet most of you people seem to think that if someone is fighting he is not delaying.

Now imagine this case with 20 people left on one team but without horses. Would he be allowed to keep shooting arrows for the remaining 4:15? I draw the line at someone having no chance of winning, maybe in the old days Jackie was able to kill 12 people on his own. Those days are over. In such situations one is allowed to shoot a few arrows, but should then switch to melee or dismount.

MotF comes up when it's a horse archer/xbow as the last one alive and more than 2 or 3 minutes of the round have expired.  Hang on to your emotions (Lou Reed reference). 
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 02, 2012, 09:34:12 pm
Wiltzu, just lock the thread. Both sides said what they wanted, there's clear evidence of Thomek's actions and even an admin, Everkistus, has made his input. Past this point the discussion will just spread to address other irrelevant matters that has nothing to do with this particular incident.

However, I'm disappointed to see the lack of Thomek's presence in this thread, but at this point it does not affect the outcome of the thread so better just lock it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 02, 2012, 09:37:55 pm
Just saw this thread.. But on my way out.

Merge it with my feedback-thread and I'll reply later.

It is a very good thread!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: HarunYahya on October 02, 2012, 09:38:57 pm
It is 1 vs 20 , he is horse archer .
So yes your argumant is invalid , this is delaying.
He is lucky that Thomek didn't ban him though.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tzar on October 02, 2012, 09:39:19 pm
Tomek is best admin ever  :!: :!: :!:

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 02, 2012, 09:40:11 pm
Just saw this thread.. But on my way out.

Merge it with my feedback-thread and I'll reply later.

It is a very good thread!
I'll see what I can do...

EDIT: Done
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 02, 2012, 09:45:46 pm
MotF comes up when it's a horse archer/xbow as the last one alive and more than 2 or 3 minutes of the round have expired.  Hang on to your emotions (Lou Reed reference).
Master of the Flag has not proven to be effective at keeping horse archers from delaying, the flags usually take about 2 minutes until they show up or do not show up at all.

Ofc he wouldn't be able to carry on shooting arrows....he'd run out

And then he would be forced to charge, if he ran off to find more arrows then he would be delaying and kick him then, but in the meantime he was in his right to continue fighting. Are you telling me if you are the last person you should just stop no matter, it seems to me that any HA or HX is automatically dealt with harsher because they are considered more of an irritant than a round winner.
You should get yourself killed if you have no chance of winning after shooting a handful of arrows. Obviously for most other classes delaying is almost a non issue, because if there is 20 people hunting you then you can't fight and stay out of harms way for long.

And a horsearcher shooting all of his arrows can take pretty long, especially if he manages to snatch a quiver along the way, which if it doesn't take much time is probably not delaying according to you.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 09:48:55 pm
Teeth, he's fighting, there are tons of ranged shooting at him in the screen, just 'cause he isn't suiciding doesn't mean he is delaying.
Also, moving this into Thomeks my old friendmin thread is a nice way to have it disappear forever.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Artyem on October 02, 2012, 09:57:03 pm
Teeth, he's fighting, there are tons of ranged shooting at him in the screen, just 'cause he isn't suiciding doesn't mean he is delaying.

No! He clearly has a chance of killing a few people on the other team, he must be kicked because it's just outrageous that one person can be left alive and kill a few people before he's struck down by an arrow.  Blasphemy!


On a serious note, SgtTeeth appears to believe that if you're the last person alive on a team, you should stick your thumb up your ass, curl up into a ball in the middle of the map and die a horrible death of a thousand two handed swords.  Why should they not try to kill as many as they can before they die?  Who gives a damn if it takes him two minutes to dispatch all of his arrows, the game is still going on as long as there are people alive on either team and you should show some patience.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 10:09:12 pm
No! He clearly has a chance of killing a few people on the other team, he must be kicked because it's just outrageous that one person can be left alive and kill a few people before he's struck down by an arrow.  Blasphemy!


On a serious note, SgtTeeth appears to believe that if you're the last person alive on a team, you should stick your thumb up your ass, curl up into a ball in the middle of the map and die a horrible death of a thousand two handed swords.  Why should they not try to kill as many as they can before they die?  Who gives a damn if it takes him two minutes to dispatch all of his arrows, the game is still going on as long as there are people alive on either team and you should show some patience.
This, and Teeth, you're in Chases clan, you should know better, how many times haven't guys like Chase killed 20+ enemies while being the last one around?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 02, 2012, 10:22:41 pm
Teeth, he's fighting, there are tons of ranged shooting at him in the screen, just 'cause he isn't suiciding doesn't mean he is delaying.
Also, moving this into Thomeks my old friendmin thread is a nice way to have it disappear forever.
I'm talking in general now, this particular situation did not require a kick and was not delaying...yet.

No! He clearly has a chance of killing a few people on the other team, he must be kicked because it's just outrageous that one person can be left alive and kill a few people before he's struck down by an arrow.  Blasphemy!

On a serious note, SgtTeeth appears to believe that if you're the last person alive on a team, you should stick your thumb up your ass, curl up into a ball in the middle of the map and die a horrible death of a thousand two handed swords.  Why should they not try to kill as many as they can before they die?  Who gives a damn if it takes him two minutes to dispatch all of his arrows, the game is still going on as long as there are people alive on either team and you should show some patience.
As you may not know, horsearchers don't kill all that many people. 2 minutes will maybe give them two kills. It's just plainly selfish to not let yourself die a heroic death by going into melee or dismounting.

This, and Teeth, you're in Chases clan, you should know better, how many times haven't guys like Chase killed 20+ enemies while being the last one around?
The thing with melee players being alive and fighting 20 players, is that they are in constant danger and their fighting will either result in their dead or the deads of many others. Horse archers do just not have that damage potential while being able to stay out of harms way while they shoot their arrows.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 02, 2012, 10:28:11 pm
When I'm the last guy alive if I'm fighting some ranged/cav actively I'll finish those fights, then I'll suicide in order to not delay, but the rules support the HAs in these situations, and regardless what you think the rules should be it's not ok to break their current state.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 02, 2012, 10:33:08 pm
On the NA Servers, it was already decided long ago that the rules allow a lone horse archer to continue engaging as long as they have ammunition and are using it. I'm surprised that EU has a different stance.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lansamur on October 02, 2012, 10:52:55 pm
Goztepe was even mentioned as gaining valour that round, which means he dealt as much damage as the top players that round. Very unsmooth move, Thomek, very unsmooth, but then again, you were never known to be smooth in cRPG. :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 02, 2012, 11:06:34 pm
Nice attempt at hiding it in this forum, it's just a shame that Thomek has clearly read it yet not explained the reasoning for it. Let's face it there isn't a good one.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 02, 2012, 11:17:08 pm
He wrote that he'll respond later since he was heading out to town.

Also, I should abuse more. I haven't had any activity in my thread for 6 mnoths :(
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 02, 2012, 11:20:06 pm
On the NA Servers, it was already decided long ago that the rules allow a lone horse archer to continue engaging as long as they have ammunition and are using it. I'm surprised that EU has a different stance.

Especially after the change where MotF pops up if the last guy alive is a horse archer or horse xbow
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Torben on October 02, 2012, 11:21:03 pm
On the NA Servers, it was already decided long ago that the rules allow a lone horse archer to continue engaging as long as they have ammunition and are using it. I'm surprised that EU has a different stance.

Eu doesnt.  some dev clearly stated that,  as long as attacking within the possibilities of the class,  it is not delaying.  a kiting archer,  a shooting HA etc etc,  all is within the rules
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 02, 2012, 11:57:58 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on October 03, 2012, 12:13:47 am
So next time you are alive and last left and because you are melee, yet you are managing to do a relatively good job of blocking and killing a few as you are a relatively skilled player should i complain to the admin that you are delaying by fighting back when the odds are still inevitable and that you require a kick. No of course not that's bullshit and you know it, yet it is the same scenario as that of the HA except its an outrage when a HA does it because it's a class everyone hates.

My thought exactly. Just because your playstyle is different doesnt make the situation different.
So -according to this- next time I see you as last man on the map I expect you, Teeth,to stand by your own words and to stop fighting but instead die instantly (or just join spectator) because it is not bareable for 100 ppl to wait just for one single twohandhero to finish his buisness of killing his enemys.

See how this doesnt make sence? Just because people hate horsearchers or have a different playstyle they shouldnt have different rules.

€: And since this is in the Admin feedbackthread now:
I herby declare I am not happy with this admin's dealings.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 03, 2012, 12:51:51 am
Also it's unsurprising to find a very similar incident on page 2 of this thread. Enough is enough, I'm certain you could find enough clearcut incidents in this thread to finally come to a conclusion that he makes his own rules.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2012, 02:34:19 am
/me notices that the mod needs more Nuffens. Not enough nuffens.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2012, 02:42:11 am
Ok here we go again..  (btw thanks for support guys!)

A lot of emotions are obviously flying around here, both about my decision(s), my admining and some old personal grudges.. It's a nasty soup.

I'll write this in list format so everyone can read and understand.

What happened:

* GK_Goztepe35 was last on his team with about 23 enemies chasing him. Many of them cav and HA/HX.
* I observed him for a while, trying to see if he realized if he was last on the team. He kept distance and riding away.
* I warned him. As screened in the first post I wrote: ok no delaying
* Still no reaction from him. No going melee, no turning around, just ignoring my warning.
* How many seconds passed, I don't know, and I can't check right now because the logs are down.
* I kicked him, mostly for ignoring the warning. Yes I know he would have been dead a few seconds after, but in my mind, someone who ignores a warning and keeps delaying, deserves a kick nevertheless.
* I kicked him about 3 seconds before xp/tick-time. As keeping him longer would have increased repair for his entire team.

Background:

* Goztepe is not a fresh player, and as stated before in this thread, he (as well as others) are known for drawing things out when it is completely unnecessary. I think I can recall kicking him for this before, without being 100% sure.
* He for sure knows what is about to happen when I give a warning to the last HA alive.
* A kick is just a kick. Not a ban, not the end of the world. Some people seems to take that too seriously here..

Personal grudges
* Zlisch hates me for giving him a short ban for abusing chat directly at me. I think his motivation here is more emotional than rational.
* Rumour says Blindguy is formerly Templar_Grey right? (Who I permabanned for trying to frame random players in the ban section.) If not, let me be excused.

People who weren't there
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The rules
Ok. You are right. He is allowed to fight on as long as he wishes. But in practice so many players and especially HA/HX are abusing this loophole, and what it leads to are long drawn out rounds. Just for their own entertainment or that extra tick. In 90% of cases it's not even fun to watch.

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And let's stop the bullshit.

Goztepe, and every single one of you know very well my position,opinion, and practice about this matter.
I do it to promote a sportmanlike behaviour on the servers. To keep the game flowing, and not to waste your time because of one trolling ego every round.

With the trolling mentality we have, and trust me here, you don't want square admins who are powerless because some asshats are abusing loopholes in the rules.

The rules I'm talking about are basic. You (hopefully) learned them in kindergarden. If you play lame, other's stop playing with you. On the internet we can't just ignore you or refuse to play with you, that's why admins are needed..

Anyway. That's all I have to say about this matter.

This is now in the hands of our gods.. :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 03:11:02 am
You know why Thomek can get away with bullshit like this? Its because of the slander and lies like this one that is stated about Admin's in general. I didn't take a clan for almost 2 years, and certainly avoided it to sidestep the bias accusations. However, I realize that no matter what, no matter how even-handed you may be, there will always be some asshat who claims bias because they are butthurt. Most often it is someone who desperately wishes to be an Admin, but will never, ever, get it. Like ever.

The boy who cried wolf didn't get any action when shit was real either.

At this point I really have no reason to lie about anything regarding crpg. Also those "lies and slander" aren't hearsay, it's something I've experienced and seen with my own eyes.

But I never took crpg that serious to care so much about it. Even if I did care at times, now I realize how foolish I was.

Btw. everyone is biased, not just in crpg. That's how things work in life...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 03, 2012, 07:48:03 am
Quote
Gnjus,

You have received a warning for posts in the admin feedback board that do not abide by the board rules. Read them carefully before posting there again.
Regards,
The Melee Gaming Team.

I drank quite a lot yesterday but I'd swear that this topic was in general discussion and not in admin feedback.  :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 03, 2012, 08:28:03 am
Ok here we go again..  (btw thanks for support guys!)

A lot of emotions are obviously flying around here, both about my decision(s), my admining and some old personal grudges.. It's a nasty soup.

I'll write this in list format so everyone can read and understand.

What happened:

* GK_Goztepe35 was last on his team with about 23 enemies chasing him. Many of them cav and HA/HX.
K.
* I observed him for a while, trying to see if he realized if he was last on the team. He kept distance and riding away.
Nothing wrong with not suiciding directly if you're the last one alive, no one expects you to facehug the enemy if it's you vs 20 guys either.
* I warned him. As screened in the first post I wrote: ok no delaying
But you warned him for nothing, he was according to the rules not delaying.
* Still no reaction from him. No going melee, no turning around, just ignoring my warning.
Because your warning was for doing nothing, no rules were broken, if I wrote in chat that everyone should go naked next round I doubt people would just do as I said.
* How many seconds passed, I don't know, and I can't check right now because the logs are down.
Well, it doesn't matter anyway, even if there passed 5 minutes it wouldn't have been delaying.
* I kicked him, mostly for ignoring the warning. Yes I know he would have been dead a few seconds after, but in my mind, someone who ignores a warning and keeps delaying playing the game with his class the way he is more or less supposed to play confirmed by the devs, deserves a kick nevertheless.
Fixed.
* I kicked him about 3 seconds before xp/tick-time. As keeping him longer would have increased repair for his entire team.
What a shit reason.

Background:

* Goztepe is not a fresh player, and as stated before in this thread, he (as well as others) are known for drawing things out when it is completely unnecessary. I think I can recall kicking him for this before, without being 100% sure.
I'm guessing the others are everyone? I don't seem to recall that many guys who instantly go spec when it appears that their team has lost, also, thanks for admitting that you regularly abuse your adminship and kick players without them breaking the rules.
* He for sure knows what is about to happen when I give a warning to the last HA alive.
K, well, that doesn't really matter, 'cause he still didn't actually break any rules.
* A kick is just a kick. Not a ban, not the end of the world. Some people seems to take that too seriously here..
If you got kicked every minute for playing using a katana would you complain?

Personal grudges
* Zlisch hates me for giving him a short ban for abusing chat directly at me. I think his motivation here is more emotional than rational.
K, and you hate cav really hard, I think your motivation for the kick here is more emotional than rational, regardless of my motivation all my arguments still make sense and besides, I hate you for not showing up at yesterdays strat battle, not for banning me.
* Rumour says Blindguy is formerly Templar_Grey right? (Who I permabanned for trying to frame random players in the ban section.) If not, let me be excused.
That's sorta funny.

People who weren't there
........

The rules
Ok. You are right. He is allowed to fight on as long as he wishes. But in practice so many players and especially HA/HX are abusing this loophole, and what it leads to are long drawn out rounds. Just for their own entertainment or that extra tick. In 90% of cases it's not even fun to watch.
It's not a loophole, devs themselves stated it's allowed, they were talking about HX so they certainly knew these kinda "delays" would happen, they're allowed to play for their own entertainment, I don't find spec'ing you very fun either, so I should kickpoll you if you're the last guy alive?
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And let's stop the bullshit.
I agree, let's remove Thomeks adminship already.

Goztepe, and every single one of you know very well my position,opinion, and practice about this matter.
I do it to promote a sportmanlike behaviour on the servers. To keep the game flowing, and not to waste your time because of one trolling ego every round.
Well it's not very sportsmanlike to kick the last guy because you want a new game to start.
With the trolling mentality we have, and trust me here, you don't want square admins who are powerless because some asshats are abusing loopholes in the rules.
Still isn't a loophole.
The rules I'm talking about are basic. You (hopefully) learned them in kindergarden. If you play lame, other's stop playing with you. On the internet we can't just ignore you or refuse to play with you, that's why admins are needed..
K, katanas are lame, let's ban Thomek for using a katana, what's lame is subjective, and any admins should follow the rules, not some random stance on what is lame and what isn't.

Anyway. That's all I have to say about this matter.

This is now in the hands of our gods.. :)
Agreed, may Mork the goat god have no mercy on thy soul as we crucify thy heathen body for being the last guy alive without suiciding within one minute.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 03, 2012, 08:49:00 am
I drank quite a lot yesterday but I'd swear that this topic was in general discussion and not in admin feedback.  :P


It was at the time, Son of Odin then merged it with this one thus changing the location. I personally would ask for the warning to be lifted as your post at the time perfectly followed the Forum Rules, and some moderator then likely missed what posts were merged and threw around the hammer a bit carelessly.

Personally, I think Thomek could use a wee bit more patience with his kicks, but everything else is fine from what I've seen.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 03, 2012, 09:11:12 am
Ok here we go again..  (btw thanks for support guys!)

A lot of emotions are obviously flying around here, both about my decision(s), my admining and some old personal grudges.. It's a nasty soup.

I'll write this in list format so everyone can read and understand.

What happened:

* GK_Goztepe35 was last on his team with about 23 enemies chasing him. Many of them cav and HA/HX.
K.
* I observed him for a while, trying to see if he realized if he was last on the team. He kept distance and riding away.
Nothing wrong with not suiciding directly if you're the last one alive, no one expects you to facehug the enemy if it's you vs 20 guys either.
* I warned him. As screened in the first post I wrote: ok no delaying
But you warned him for nothing, he was according to the rules not delaying.
* Still no reaction from him. No going melee, no turning around, just ignoring my warning.
Because your warning was for doing nothing, no rules were broken, if I wrote in chat that everyone should go naked next round I doubt people would just do as I said.
* How many seconds passed, I don't know, and I can't check right now because the logs are down.
Well, it doesn't matter anyway, even if there passed 5 minutes it wouldn't have been delaying.
* I kicked him, mostly for ignoring the warning. Yes I know he would have been dead a few seconds after, but in my mind, someone who ignores a warning and keeps delaying playing the game with his class the way he is more or less supposed to play confirmed by the devs, deserves a kick nevertheless.
Fixed.
* I kicked him about 3 seconds before xp/tick-time. As keeping him longer would have increased repair for his entire team.
What a shit reason.
So you intentionally wanted to leave out a fucking tick? How are we supposed to earn xp/gold if we don't get a tick?

Background:

* Goztepe is not a fresh player, and as stated before in this thread, he (as well as others) are known for drawing things out when it is completely unnecessary. I think I can recall kicking him for this before, without being 100% sure.
I'm guessing the others are everyone? I don't seem to recall that many guys who instantly go spec when it appears that their team has lost, also, thanks for admitting that you regularly abuse your adminship and kick players without them breaking the rules.
I'd be surprised if you actually wonder why some ppl hate you / want your admins to be removed. You even admitted that you abuse your admin rights.
* He for sure knows what is about to happen when I give a warning to the last HA alive.
K, well, that doesn't really matter, 'cause he still didn't actually break any rules.
* A kick is just a kick. Not a ban, not the end of the world. Some people seems to take that too seriously here..
If you got kicked every minute for playing using a katana would you complain?

Personal grudges
* Zlisch hates me for giving him a short ban for abusing chat directly at me. I think his motivation here is more emotional than rational.
K, and you hate cav really hard, I think your motivation for the kick here is more emotional than rational, regardless of my motivation all my arguments still make sense and besides, I hate you for not showing up at yesterdays strat battle, not for banning me.
* Rumour says Blindguy is formerly Templar_Grey right? (Who I permabanned for trying to frame random players in the ban section.) If not, let me be excused.
That's sorta funny.

People who weren't there
........
Have withnessed you doing this before also. As I'm trying to point out that this wasn't the only case.

The rules
Ok. You are right. He is allowed to fight on as long as he wishes. But in practice so many players and especially HA/HX are abusing this loophole, and what it leads to are long drawn out rounds. Just for their own entertainment or that extra tick. In 90% of cases it's not even fun to watch.
It's not a loophole, devs themselves stated it's allowed, they were talking about HX so they certainly knew these kinda "delays" would happen, they're allowed to play for their own entertainment, I don't find spec'ing you very fun either, so I should kickpoll you if you're the last guy alive?
So for YOU to get to play you're ready to deny a tick for the rest 100 players in the server?
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And let's stop the bullshit.
I agree, let's remove Thomeks adminship already.

Goztepe, and every single one of you know very well my position,opinion, and practice about this matter.
I do it to promote a sportmanlike behaviour on the servers. To keep the game flowing, and not to waste your time because of one trolling ego every round.
Well it's not very sportsmanlike to kick the last guy because you want a new game to start.
With the trolling mentality we have, and trust me here, you don't want square admins who are powerless because some asshats are abusing loopholes in the rules.
Still isn't a loophole.
The rules I'm talking about are basic. You (hopefully) learned them in kindergarden. If you play lame, other's stop playing with you. On the internet we can't just ignore you or refuse to play with you, that's why admins are needed..
K, katanas are lame, let's ban Thomek for using a katana, what's lame is subjective, and any admins should follow the rules, not some random stance on what is lame and what isn't.

Anyway. That's all I have to say about this matter.

This is now in the hands of our gods..
Agreed, may Mork the goat god have no mercy on thy soul as we crucify thy heathen body for being the last guy alive without suiciding within one minute.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 03, 2012, 09:23:24 am
All this time and the response all but confirms you've used your own poor judgement to warrant a kick that never shoUld have happened. Lets not pretend that this hasn't been a common occurrence either, there've been numerous examples of this.

You've also admitted freely in your response that you've done it before, and your actions ruin the fun for those who are playing a legitimate class that you just happen to not like.

Rather than wait for someone to pass judgement or just give you a warning you should step down willingly, as you know you've done wrong despite what weird and wonderful excuses you make that you're doing a service to the rest of the players.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 03, 2012, 09:51:15 am

It was at the time, Son of Odin then merged it with this one thus changing the location. I personally would ask for the warning to be lifted as your post at the time perfectly followed the Forum Rules, and some moderator then likely missed what posts were merged and threw around the hammer a bit carelessly.



Awesome, I was already scared that I should quit the booze once again.  :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bredeus on October 03, 2012, 10:15:34 am
This whole discussion is pointless. Thomek have a right to kick delayer after a warning. He is probably one admin who is still using his main for adminship and you can see who is who at least. Give him a break you nasty horseloving archers!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2012, 11:55:41 am
I think being a horsearcher who wastes a few minutes of the other 100 people in the server while it not having any impact on the outcome of the round falls under the 'being an asshat rule' or even the common sense rule. Thomek is the only admin who has the balls to apply these rules and I love him for it, he keeps the game running smoothly whenever he is on. Honestly, he is the only admin I ever see doing anything to keep the game running smoothly, all the others are mainly just playing and responding to ban threads.

Fuck the haters, love you Thomek.

Just can't believe so many people think horsearchers should be allowed to shoot arrows for two minutes when they are last alive. Think I'll make a horse archer alt just to bring some awareness to how annoying it is. Not when Thomek is on though.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 03, 2012, 12:02:01 pm
I think being a horsearcher who wastes a few minutes of the other 100 people in the server while it not having any impact on the outcome of the round falls under the 'being an asshat rule' or even the common sense rule. Thomek is the only admin who has the balls to apply these rules and I love him for it, he keeps the game running smoothly whenever he is on. Honestly, he is the only admin I ever see doing anything to keep the game running smoothly, all the others are mainly just playing and responding to ban threads.

Fuck the haters, love you Thomek.

Just can't believe so many people think horsearchers should be allowed to shoot arrows for two minutes when they are last alive. Think I'll make a horse archer alt just to bring some awareness to how annoying it is. Not when Thomek is on though.

Lately all your forum posts make you fall under the 'being an asshat rule'  too really.

Running smoothly? If you want to respawn quickly go to siege, this is last man standing. Deal with it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2012, 12:37:18 pm
Running smoothly? If you want to respawn quickly go to siege, this is last man standing. Deal with it.
Wow, great argument you have there.

Just voicing the unpopular opinion again, apparently.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2012, 01:01:04 pm
I dislike HAs and HX just as much as the next person, but in this case the decision was completely erroneous and everyone in the server reacted strongly to Thomek's piss poor judgement.

First of all, he had been the last man standing for only a minute, and he was fighting in the exact same manner before he had the "misfortune" to become last man standing under Thomek's watch.

Secondly, Goztepe is strictly HA, meaning he has no melee weapon. He has a bow, and 3 quivers of arrows. By your definition (your definition: delaying is using ranged weapons instead of melee weapons when you're the last), he could have heeded your "warning" and switched to a melee weapon.
  So basically, you're justifying your kick on him for not carrying a melee weapon, which is fucked up and not at all a rule covered by the official server rules.

There are a lot more points where you are completely out of place but unfortunately, I don't feel like addressing them. I said what I wanted, and from now on Thomek, prepare for eagle eyes in your back.

If this doesn't seal the deal and remove your position, I will make sure you are scrutinized at every turn.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on October 03, 2012, 01:02:33 pm
Officially fighting as a HA last standing versus 23 people on your team is not rule-breaking, thus you should not be warned or kicked for this. Still needless to say, it is an extremely homosexual thing to pull (as is the whole HA class really) and you're just doing it to waste time of other people, while you could accept that you're never going to beat 23 people on your own, grow some balls, grab a melee weapon and just rush into the zerg.

But we all know growing balls doesn't correlate with GK.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 03, 2012, 01:09:02 pm
Secondly, Goztepe is strictly HA, meaning he has no melee weapon.

meaning he has no melee weapon.

meaning he has no melee weapon.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2012, 01:09:17 pm
You could have stopped at the first sentence, Vibe. What a person thinks of an other playstyle is IRRELEVANT to the supposed duties of an admin. They're supposed to deal with rule breakers, and I'm fucking interested in hearing what the person who came up with the rules, has to say about Thomek's "interpretation" of the alleged rule he broke.

@Gnjus: It's still a weapon, therefore NO RULES WERE BROKEN. Now stop sucking Thomek's cock.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 01:35:12 pm
Just one question:

What's the point of this campaign? Do you want Thomek to lose his admin powers or you want him to realize that he did wrong and don't do it again in the future?

Cause, you know, demoting an admin never did any good to crpg...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 03, 2012, 01:57:42 pm
Just one question:

What's the point of this campaign? Do you want Thomek to lose his admin powers or you want him to realize that he did wrong and don't do it again in the future?

Cause, you know, demoting an admin never did any good to crpg...

He has been doing this way too long and way too often and he even admits that he's abusing the powers. I want him to be stripped off from admin rights.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2012, 02:07:02 pm
Just one question:

What's the point of this campaign? Do you want Thomek to lose his admin powers or you want him to realize that he did wrong and don't do it again in the future?

Cause, you know, demoting an admin never did any good to crpg...

Well, to be honest I don't want him stripped of admin, I just want him to realize that this sort of shit is unacceptable.

If he apologizes and doesn't try to defend his action(s) I have let go of this.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 03, 2012, 02:09:19 pm
Just one question:

What's the point of this campaign? Do you want Thomek to lose his admin powers or you want him to realize that he did wrong and don't do it again in the future?

Cause, you know, demoting an admin never did any good to crpg...

Replace him then
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 03, 2012, 02:19:41 pm
Can't be bothered to reply properly to this.

Thomek kicks notorious delayers that ignore his warnings.

Where's the news?

Rule-breaking or not. Who's talking to me here? Not exactly choir boys.

You just want to see me burn for other reasons.

Well good luck.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on October 03, 2012, 02:28:14 pm
Ninja admin FTW!!!

Don't mind what Zlich and like are saying, keep applying common sense rule.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 03, 2012, 02:40:48 pm
Can't be bothered to reply properly to this.

Thomek kicks notorious delayers that ignore his warnings.

Where's the news?

Rule-breaking or not. Who's talking to me here? Not exactly choir boys.

You just want to see me burn for other reasons.

Well good luck.

Your attitude stinks and shows why you shouldn't have admin.

What have I done wrong to be classed as "Not exactly a choir boy"? It's pretty pathetic that even though some people just want you to acknowledge and apologise you can't even manage that. While some people laugh off the abuses you commit it doesn't make it okay.

I have no grudges to see you burn, we've never spoke, but I've witnessed multiple abuses from you in my Crpg time and that's good enough for me to pursue justice.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 03, 2012, 03:04:12 pm
Can't be bothered to reply properly to this.

Thomek kicks notorious delayers that ignore his warnings.
Who aren't actually delaying or delayers according to the rules which you're supposed to admin under.
Where's the news?

Rule-breaking or not. Who's talking to me here? Not exactly choir boys.

You just want to see me burn for other reasons.

Well good luck.
This is just pathetic, instead of actually replying you just accuse everyone against you of not giving a fuck and only wanting you unadmined due to personal dislike.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 03, 2012, 03:05:26 pm
Ninja admin FTW!!!

Don't mind what Zlich and like are saying, keep applying common sense rule.
If it's common sense then why have the devs stated something completely different as their stance on the matter?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Turk_Otto_Knight on October 03, 2012, 03:07:49 pm
Speaking of thomek, 2-3 months ago , i bump thomek accidently he didnt even get damage but he kicked me from the server....(i had x5 fu)


Also Goztepe was shooting whic means he was fighting not delaying ..

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 03, 2012, 05:05:55 pm
Because he's the hero cRPG deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2012, 05:06:12 pm
You know the drill pretty well Thomek.

You act, you risk making mistakes (like this case p.e. which is only human) and you get all ganged on by the angry pitchfork wielding mobsters;

You don't act, you're just another normal cRPG admin, which is interestingly an asset to be an admin in this mod. *go figure*


   I'd rather see more admins acting though. The lack of simple iron fists in this mod is overwhelming. Anarchy rules the streets of Siege (as it has always been since day 0), but seeing it spreading to Battle, it's sad.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: LordBerenger on October 03, 2012, 05:28:49 pm
You already defended yourself Thomek. It's up to devs now.


If you keep replying and keep complaining about the ones who don't like your adminning it shows that just like Nuffen you can only play CRPG with admin powers on (left a bit later after losing admin). (As some other admins feel the same) which is stupid.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 03, 2012, 05:31:51 pm
I don't understand why people got so mad about the kick, he is a HA and a GK, the most hated thing you can be in the cRPG community, but still they started spamming the chat about "injustice"


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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 03, 2012, 05:42:21 pm
I am honest enough to admit that my choices as to when and where I abuse my admin powers are not based on any rules or ideals that I have, but merely how drunk/annoyed I am at that time. It's good that my abusive nature is finally being brought under scrutiny. I also understand that trying to defend myself will cause some community members to post evidence of my fuckups, and therefor I will stfu and resign my adminship.


This.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 03, 2012, 06:36:38 pm
I drank quite a lot yesterday but I'd swear that this topic was in general discussion and not in admin feedback.  :P
I cleaned up the mess. I was the moderator who merged the topics. I can confirm you posted while the thread was still in general discussion and not breaking the rules. And as always, have a good day :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Corwin on October 03, 2012, 07:11:01 pm
You can't be serious about comparing Thomek and nuffen. Unlike nuffen, Thomek does what he does because he believes he is doing the right thing (and in this case he completely right, imo). Nuffen did what he did because he has small penis, and had to get that frustration out.

He KICKED the guy, FFS. Nuffen's transgressions were all about banning people who he didn't like for a week or so.

And Zlisch, you should know that for a long time I really hated your posting on this forum and spamming ingame and was thinking you were a jerk.  Then I found out you were seriously retarded.

Now I think you are a hero and an inspiration.

Keep up with the good work!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 03, 2012, 07:17:39 pm
I have no dealings with Thomek, being positive or negative.  Kicking someone who is a horse archer, and is fighting people 1v20 at the end of the round is not delaying, and does not deserve a kick.  This is documented abuse of his power.  The screenshots even show the guy killing 2 people, and being chased by up to 3 or 4 horsemen.  Not to mention master of the flag spawns if the last guy alive is a horse archer/xbow and it's less than like 4 minutes left in the round. 

Aside from the anecdotal evidence without proof people are accusing Thomek of (which sounds pretty damning, if true), this incident should be punished based on what I've seen brought forward.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 03, 2012, 07:40:27 pm
And Zlisch, you should know that for a long time I really hated your posting on this forum and spamming ingame and was thinking you were a jerk.  Then I found out you were seriously retarded.

Now I think you are a hero and an inspiration.

Keep up with the good work!
Why thank you dear Corwin I'm deeply emotionally touched by your kind, kind, words.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 03, 2012, 08:09:19 pm
And yes, Zlisch is retarded, but at least his hearts in the right place.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 08:49:39 pm
I have no dealings with Thomek, being positive or negative.  Kicking someone who is a horse archer, and is fighting people 1v20 at the end of the round is not delaying, and does not deserve a kick.  This is documented abuse of his power.  The screenshots even show the guy killing 2 people, and being chased by up to 3 or 4 horsemen.  Not to mention master of the flag spawns if the last guy alive is a horse archer/xbow and it's less than like 4 minutes left in the round. 

Aside from the anecdotal evidence without proof people are accusing Thomek of (which sounds pretty damning, if true), this incident should be punished based on what I've seen brought forward.

Things are different on this side of the ocean. While Shik changes his admins like socks, cmp&chadz choose admins rarely and almost never replace them. I'm not saying that Shik is wrong and that cmp&chadz are right or the other way around, I'm saying that criteria is different.

Also, when Nuffen incident happened chadz said that was the last time he's gonna relegate an admin. He also was very mad at the community about that. We'll see what he thinks now.

For many people Nuffen was the worst enemy. Reality is, that we lost pretty damn active admin and that quality of adminship on EU servers is in decline since then.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 03, 2012, 09:07:37 pm
So once they choose an admin, it's for life, no matter what actions they take.  EU admins are above reproach?

Sounds like a wonderful system, because we all know that if humans are one thing, it's infallible.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 09:10:17 pm
There were two exceptions, Wookiemonsta and Nuffen.

I think Nebun was trial admin for a short period of time but he probably lost it because of Strategus.

Also, your shitposter title is for life as well. You probably don't deserve it but that's how it is :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 03, 2012, 09:18:10 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 03, 2012, 09:26:04 pm

Also, your shitposter title is for life as well. You probably don't deserve it but that's how it is :wink:

Not sure how I got it.  There was a week where I went a little ape shit posting pictures and telling people to post in the right section.  I posted a lot of pictures that talked shit to all the cry babies whining for nerfs.  But I thought my 1000's of other, relevant, logical, and on-topic posts would have made it obvious that I'm not a shit poster (even if you disagree with what I say).

My other theory is that since I'm such a big forum whore and most of my posts are relatively "serious", with thought put into them, that they gave me the title to try and troll me (which worked).

Either way I don't care about a forum title, but no admin should be immune to criticism.  I'm not suggesting Thomek lose his admin over the incident, but one of the devs should probably at least address it with him.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 03, 2012, 09:31:05 pm
I agree but it seems that devs are working hard on upcoming august patch :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 03, 2012, 09:43:44 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Meow on October 03, 2012, 09:46:17 pm
I think you guys got that wrong ;)
What was removed was the community voting on potentially abusive admins since people mainly nominated them for trolling purposes or personal problems with the admin, then grouped up to get him voted out, didn't even try to hide that.

Now we got this forum so those people can vent and that's pretty much it.

If admins fuck up big time they will be told and it probably won't happen again, don't think anyone except the overlords are save from removal on a major screwup.

Not sure how many NA admins actually got removed but I think most of those that went back to being players did that voluntarily because they had less fun playing as admins so new ones were needed, we had that with EU admins as well.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 03, 2012, 09:48:42 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 03, 2012, 10:14:48 pm
I think you guys got that wrong ;)
What was removed was the community voting on potentially abusive admins since people mainly nominated them for trolling purposes or personal problems with the admin, then grouped up to get him voted out, didn't even try to hide that.

Now we got this forum so those people can vent and that's pretty much it.

If admins fuck up big time they will be told and it probably won't happen again, don't think anyone except the overlords are save from removal on a major screwup.

Not sure how many NA admins actually got removed but I think most of those that went back to being players did that voluntarily because they had less fun playing as admins so new ones were needed, we had that with EU admins as well.
It's a damn shame, the lynch board was hilarious.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 03, 2012, 10:32:13 pm
   I dunno, I think the simple fact that there's a thread begging for admins in Siege mode for over 7 months now, with NO (mainly) siege playing admin being implemented is pretty much self-explanatory of how Administration is handled here (EU).

It's disappointing.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: djavo on October 03, 2012, 10:50:41 pm
+10 warning for posting unrelated material
Stop killing thomek, leave him alone
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 03, 2012, 11:55:50 pm

That guy has SOME lungpower jeez...


Back to topic:

HOW can anyone say that if Thomek was no longer an admin we would LOSE anything? Ok, sure, we would see less shoddily written red text on our screens late at night when he comes home drunk and wants to flex muscle, but other than that, we would lose NOTHING. He does nothing positive unless it also is to HIS advantage.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 04, 2012, 02:38:26 am
Wow BlindGuy, I can understand that the kick caused some tension and it was a bad call. But the way you go about it is not going to help your case at all and doesn't make you look too good either.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 04, 2012, 11:28:20 am
Thomek is a good admin, leave him be.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 04, 2012, 07:31:01 pm
Wow BlindGuy, I can understand that the kick caused some tension and it was a bad call. But the way you go about it is not going to help your case at all and doesn't make you look too good either.


No, I dont care that he kicked me, I used to get kicked all the time by all the admins, cause I would jump onto roofs to shoot as an archer and apparantly thats NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE ITS NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS, because they would have to jump up too and thats too much to ask of them.

Now, pls explain what my case is? I didnt think i had one, but apparantly you think I do?


Anyway, my main irritation is ppl DEFENDING him:

1/ He isnt a good admin.
2/ he isnt a nice person.

Both those are UNDISPUTABLE, just end this fucking thread already.


Heres some funtimes from days gone by:

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YEAH HES SUCH A GREAT ADMIN.

EDIT: For those who cannot be asked to check the SS carefully: It shows Kinn whining, but thats besides the point XD  what it shows to do with this thread is Badmin Thomek, drunk, angry that he cannot avoid being couched, threatening to ban next person who couches him. Then, guess what, he wonders into a lance AGAIN, laughs in admin chat for all to see, and bans the guy who killed him FOR TEAMKILLING.

YES HE IS TRULY BEST OF THE BEST OF ADMINS TRULY. derp
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on October 04, 2012, 08:42:36 pm
what it shows to do with this thread is Badmin Thomek, drunk, angry that he cannot avoid being couched, threatening to ban next person who couches him. Then, guess what, he wonders into a lance AGAIN, laughs in admin chat for all to see, and bans the guy who killed him FOR TEAMKILLING.

I see Thomek, maybe drunk, making a statement* of banning someone for the night if he gets couched. Then some banter between Thomek and Polo before and after Polo killing Thomek. And then a 2 minute ban on Polo, probably as some sort of, maybe drunken, continuation of the joke.

An example of a lapse of professionalism, i.e. using his admin powers for a joke. Not an example of Thomek being a bad person or particurarly bad admin. If Polo took offense to it, then it's not good and Thomek should probably apologize for the bad joke.

I have kicked fellow clan members once or twice as a joke or muted them, so I can understand the joke. But I would not personally kick an unknown person. It has the potential of making someone mad, especially if they think they've truly been banned for the night, or 2 months as some think the "m" stands for.

Thomek has always been strict, and he does ban people easily, but generally the punishment for rulebreaking is left to the admin. I tend to be more lenient with people I do not know to have a history of rulebreaking. Thomek gives longer bans more readily.

*a joke, most likely. I may be part reason to why Thomek gets this image of raging and truly hating cav, because it's a kind of running joke between us to watch the responses to his threads. They're always good reads. He does think they're OP, but he doesn't rage to them apart from occasionally shouting "NO!!" or something similar in TS when the cav barely manages to hit him and he dies.

I try to remain as objective as I can to this, while at the same time trying to bring forward a side of Thomek that some of you do not know. The kick of the horse archer was something I wouldn't have done, personally, since he was shooting arrows. Though, I can see some reasoning behind it since the horse archer had no hope of actually shooting 20 people with the amount of arrows he must've had left by the time. I wouldn't strip his admin rights(probably just warn him), though giving some more clearer rules as what constitutes delaying would not hurt.

Something I would like to know:
I've been in situations where I am unreachable by arrows and I am the only one left alive versus ~2-4 ranged and they refuse to engage me in close combat. According to cmp's interpretation, the ranged are leeching, since I am unreachable by their ranged weapons. In these cases I always charge because I'd rather respawn and get to fight than do nothing.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 04, 2012, 09:20:18 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on October 04, 2012, 10:19:06 pm
LET'S PLAY GAME OF THOMEK

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bredeus on October 04, 2012, 11:22:13 pm
Rage ban? On poor Templol who even cannot poll :(
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on October 04, 2012, 11:33:34 pm
I disagree with the Goztepe's kick, if there's fighting then there's fighting.

That is all.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 04, 2012, 11:45:28 pm
Really, whining about that two minute ban? Learn to appreciate jokes, even if admins do it. It's cRPG, devs and admins are allowed to troll.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bredeus on October 04, 2012, 11:57:13 pm
You are right 2 minutes ban is nothing with comparison to flying carpet and Aladin but still I have that feeling that admin should be more than that to give an example.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 05, 2012, 12:17:59 am
Really, whining about that two minute ban? Learn to appreciate jokes, even if admins do it. It's cRPG, devs and admins are allowed to troll.

It's not the ban really, its losing a multi, whatever.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 05, 2012, 03:01:48 am
blblabla screenshot.

1. I remember that situation, and it was a late night joke I had with polo who was constantly trying to troll me. We are all friends and good. Coming with a screen 1 year after trying to prove something is bullshit. "oh no! he's an aboozer!!" Give me a break. Obvious joke to someone who can take it.

2. If it is true that Blindguy is former Templar_Grey..  (Something which makes sense since he also had a habit of screenshotting "proof" and would also explain why he is in this thread and wants me to burn)

Well, Templar_Grey tried several times to FRAME unknown/new/innocent players by trolling them into teamkilling him, then posting screens in the ban threads asking for their bans. The whole charade ended with him personally threatening me. Of course he got permabanned.

And now he's trying to use the same creative use of screens to frame me.. (If he indeed is the same person)
Templar_Grey has absolutely zero creditability, formerly being the most poisonous troll in cRPG.

@Khorin
I rarely ban, mainly use kicks, and or light bans. Can't remember last time gave a harder (4days or so) ban for anything but leeching.

I do realize some of you don't like my admin-style, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm not trying to win a popularity contest..

Goztepe (missing in this thread btw) got a message. Don't do pointless delaying. The punishment was without consequence (a kick) and should be regarded as a statement.

And for those of you who seem to read a lot of bs into how I am as a person:

I personally don't give a single fuck if I have adminship or not. Tbh, recently it seems more of a burden with the shitstorm I have to take for a kick.
The only reason I won't resign by myself is that it would satisfy certain players too much. :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 05, 2012, 08:32:18 am
Let me explain this real slow...
He.
Wasn't.
Fucking.
Delaying.
...get it?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 05, 2012, 08:45:25 am
Get it through your fucking head, Thomek, that was not delaying. Even your fanboy Khorin is saying that.

The "shitstorms" are not unfounded, Thomek. You actually do make rash choices. Like that one time when you kicked a Druzhina whilst they were fighting for delaying. Granted, I agreed with the kick but only because they were pissing everyone off by not helping the team and camping somewhere. After you kicked him, they got butthurt and mass-quit.

Anyway, like I said I don't want your head to be chopped off, but if you keep saying that he was delaying then consider me one of the people who'd be satisfied if you resigned.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 05, 2012, 02:23:38 pm
Well, according to rules Goztepe was not delaying.

But he did ignore my warning and suggestion to not draw it out, by riding further and further away. (Logs are still broken so I can't check how many seconds passed)

Anyway.. I'm a bit worried that HX/HA can and will draw out hopeless situations if they know they are safe from the delaying rules. Perhaps my call was borderline, but I'm worried they will abooze this fact as much as they can if we let them do it.. It should be up to admin discretion to evaluate the situation, warn, and kick for it.

Perhaps we need some more flexible delaying rules. We will see if their behaviour will change if they feel safe from kicks.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 05, 2012, 05:52:26 pm
Thomek you are good admin and you do good job as admin.... pple annoyed by your kicks / ban have just to CHANGE THEIR BEAHVIOUR and then they will be quiet...

Crpg needs admins like you !
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 05, 2012, 06:15:53 pm
Well, according to rules Goztepe was not delaying.

But he did ignore my warning and suggestion to not draw it out, by riding further and further away. (Logs are still broken so I can't check how many seconds passed)

Anyway.. I'm a bit worried that HX/HA can and will draw out hopeless situations if they know they are safe from the delaying rules. Perhaps my call was borderline, but I'm worried they will abooze this fact as much as they can if we let them do it.. It should be up to admin discretion to evaluate the situation, warn, and kick for it.

Perhaps we need some more flexible delaying rules. We will see if their behaviour will change if they feel safe from kicks.

It's not your job to force people to play the way YOU want them to play, why don't you understand this?

Wow he ignored your bullshit warning, who wouldn't? You wanted him to charge at them like he had a lance? It's all flimsy excuses and the screenshots show he was in the middle of a battle. Just quit trying to justify it and admit you made a mistake.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on October 05, 2012, 06:38:10 pm
One or two weeks ago you kicked me from Eu1 when I turned on "autorun" and went afk at the end of round. And my team had 10+ players against 1 cav. derp  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Turk_Otto_Knight on October 05, 2012, 10:04:06 pm
I still cant understand why did he kick me for an accidently bump ....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 05, 2012, 10:16:07 pm
Well, according to rules Goztepe was not delaying.

But he did ignore my warning and suggestion to not draw it out, by riding further and further away. (Logs are still broken so I can't check how many seconds passed)


So what you are saying is, he ignored your warning to not draw it out, yet was also at the same time not delaying? So he essentially ignored a warning because he was doing nothing wrong, and you kicked him, even though he was not delaying?


This sounds terrible, honestly, and you should rethink your stance on issuing nonsensical warnings.


You can't kick someone for not adhering to a warning if said warning has nothing to do with the rules.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 05, 2012, 10:19:09 pm
Seriously, a bit pathetic that Thomek still stands by breaking the rules and kicking an innocent HA, fuck, i'd even be somewhat fine with him still being an admin if he'd at least admit he made a mistake and say he won't do it again, instead he's just going on and on about how HAs draw out the round and about how he is bored and how the rules need change...
...reminds me of something Paul said in regards to Spookisland:

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I read it all, had some laughs and really hope for OP's mortal soul that he is just trolling. One point of those essays is for us to see if the subject understood why he was banned (well, here it'd be why people are complaining, but overall same "theme") . With that we can permaban without remorse at the next similar offense because then we are sure he knew what he was doing.

Writing a "I knew what I was doing and I will do it again" essay saves us that trouble though, thanks. Gut your fish elsewhere.
Essentially Thomek is saying that he dislikes the rules, see no wrong in breaking them like he did, he's saying that he will do it again, and he's suggesting that the rules should change and not himself...

I'll admit to personally not being your 1# fan, but fuck, everyone who doesn't have their heads up your ass *cough* Gnjus *cough* should be able to see the issue here.
BTW: ToD for EU admin. <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: cmp on October 06, 2012, 12:14:25 am

So what you are saying is, he ignored your warning to not draw it out, yet was also at the same time not delaying? So he essentially ingnored a warning because he was doing nothing wrong, and you kicked him, even though he was not delaying?


This sounds terrible, honestly, and you should rethink your stance on issuing nonsensical warnings.


You can't kick someone for not adhering to a warning if said warning has nothing to do with the rules.

I'm curious about this as well.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 06, 2012, 12:24:22 am
I always knew Thomek is a badmin.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 06, 2012, 02:51:27 am
Maybe it's time to get some new admins in this mod and lift a bit the weight from the shoulders of the old and tired ones for a change? *hint save siege hint*

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: tizzango on October 06, 2012, 03:16:40 am
It's already been said, and i'll reiterate to support the cause,  but he does it all the fucking time. Why haven't his admin rights been removed? It's unreal that he still has them.

We should just create a thread dedicated to screenshots of his abuse.

Nothing against him as a person, I can understand the slight frustration of waiting for 20 infantry to chase and kill 1 HA- however, he didn't break any rules at all. Rubbing salt in the wound, Thomek won't admit he was wrong.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on October 06, 2012, 10:22:19 am
It's already been said, and i'll reiterate to support the cause,  but he does it all the fucking time. Why haven't his admin rights been removed? It's unreal that he still has them.

We should just create a thread dedicated to screenshots of his abuse.

Nothing against him as a person, I can understand the slight frustration of waiting for 20 infantry to chase and kill 1 HA- however, he didn't break any rules at all. Rubbing salt in the wound, Thomek won't admit he was wrong.

This thread is dedicated to evaluating the admin, use screenshots at your lesiure

Really, whining about that two minute ban? Learn to appreciate jokes, even if admins do it. It's cRPG, devs and admins are allowed to troll.

The fact remains admins are there to stop trolls, and people who are going to ruin the game for everyone. Being an admin does not automatically elevate your status so you can do that which you are there to stop. Devs are allowed to troll, yes because they make the game, admins are there to keep it playable not to screw things up for people and ruin it for others.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 06, 2012, 11:36:14 am
I'm curious about this as well.

cmp, I'm in the field. I've been admin for 2 years+? Sometimes I make some calls.. sometimes they are bad calls. Perhaps this one was. For me it's quite critical to know how many seconds passed from my warning to the kick btw.. (logs down..)

I guess I shouldn't be confused about most of the poster's here real purpose. To see me burn for various reasons not relating to my admining.

But anyway, well, let's play by the rules from now on.

I promise never to kick a HA/HX taking their good long time at an end of round, even in hopeless situations, because it's their damned trolling right.

That's right folks! Now you can invent creative ways to draw out rounds on my watch!

Rules aint gonna change until things get worse, so let them get worse.

I hope you are all now satisfied.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 06, 2012, 11:42:40 am
There's no reason we should feel satisfied about you coming to terms with something that should already have been a given fact.

Just lost some respect for you, Thomek, and it wasn't very abundant to begin with. But okay, looking forward to testing your "promise".
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 06, 2012, 11:51:31 am
cmp, I'm in the field. I've been admin for 2 years+? Usually I make some calls.. usually they are bad calls. Perhaps this one was just like many others. For me it's quite critical to know how many seconds passed from my warning to the kick btw.. (logs down..)

I guess I shouldn't be confused about most of the poster's here real purpose. To see me burn for various reasons not relating to my admining. I personally just want you to burn cause of what you've done as an admin.

But anyway, well, let's play by the rules from now on. You said you had been an admin for 2 years, and you start to play by the rules at this point? -.-

I promise never to kick a HA/HX taking their good long time at an end of round, even in hopeless situations, because it's their damned trolling right.

That's right folks! Now you can invent creative ways to draw out rounds on my watch!

Rules aint gonna change until things get worse, ?so let them get worse?.

I hope you are all now satisfied. I'm not personally satisfied yet, I want to see your admin rights removed.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 06, 2012, 11:56:23 am
I left that hate for delaying HA/HX by forcing myself to be in their position. When we had those Santa Squad events we did many kinds of annoying things but if I was the last I sacrificed myself. Took a melee weapon and swung until it was over. That's just how I did it. I'm not saying you should do the same. I'm inexperienced at HA so I didn't care to try shoot at the superior force facing me. The outcome was more than obvious.

Now when we think about dedicated HA/HX... It's their main and they used a lot of time to be good at it. I wouldn't have been pissed if someone kicked me when I was playing my HA alt, but kick me when I'm last as a lancer and I'll sure say something about it :D. Just think what would you say if someone kicked you for playing to the last drop of blood with your main. Yes that's maybe what it feels like for those horse archers too.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 06, 2012, 12:21:09 pm
cmp, I'm in the field. I've been admin for 2 years+? Sometimes I make some calls.. sometimes they are bad calls. Perhaps this one was. For me it's quite critical to know how many seconds passed from my warning to the kick btw.. (logs down..)

I guess I shouldn't be confused about most of the poster's here real purpose. To see me burn for various reasons not relating to my admining.

But anyway, well, let's play by the rules from now on.

I promise never to kick a HA/HX taking their good long time at an end of round, even in hopeless situations, because it's their damned trolling right.

That's right folks! Now you can invent creative ways to draw out rounds on my watch!

Rules aint gonna change until things get worse, so let them get worse.

I hope you are all now satisfied.
Somewhat satisfied, however, you needed fucking cmp to tell you you're in the wrong here before actually admitting it...
...but as long as you stick to your above promise and don't ban people unless they break the rules there is no harm in having you stay admin, but if you do it again your rights should instantly be removed...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 06, 2012, 12:26:27 pm
Honestly this is quite a sad show on both parts, lynch mobs and thomek.

Lynch mobs for trying to burn down desperately one of the few admins we have "active" at this point, and thomek for being too prideful, instead of apologizing for the possible mistakes (since we're all human after all) and carrying on.

In the end, this is a lose-lose s(h)ituation, and both parties should rethink their motives, cause we're all gonna end up losing anyway, pathetically sad.

I understand that chadz always wanted to have a administration based on friendship and trust, but perhaps it's time to move on, cause we're running out of those shortly.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 06, 2012, 01:06:44 pm
Don't listen them Thomek...If PEPE was admin he would BAN all ranged cav just because they are ranged cavs...

Thomek is a normal admin...not bad, not god..Let him ALOOOOOONE
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 06, 2012, 01:27:50 pm
BLAH BLAH I lied a lot on various occasions.

You lied about my actions last time, even as far as saying you had evidence of breaking rules on several occasions....yet when pushed you could not produce it.


I dont care if you are an admin, I just get weirded out when anyone can defend your actions. You really are a nasty piece of work.


My final words are: I love to meet ppl like you IRL. You make the average retard seem a likeable person. Stop lieing mate, remember, we are a community of ppl who really dont give a fuck, you dont have to lie about me to make a point, stick to facts. I'm no angel, but I'm not gonna lie because of a personal vendetta. Remember: Dont be so vain, I dont hate you, or spend any time worrying about you, if you feel you have to defend your actions, you should not take those actions in the first place.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Tonyukuk on October 06, 2012, 01:31:22 pm
Free Thomek!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Casimir on October 06, 2012, 02:49:57 pm
Ban everyone who has posted in this thread for giving too many fucks.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 06, 2012, 02:54:09 pm
Ban everyone who has posted in this thread for giving too many fucks.
You included, naturally :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: djavo on October 06, 2012, 07:47:18 pm
If son of odin gets muted I dont mind to be muted also.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on October 06, 2012, 09:17:40 pm
The last time that I've seen a draw has been when ppl have stayed and fight rather than going to the flags.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Torben on October 06, 2012, 09:30:09 pm
I didnt read all of this, but i see a good admin with  flawed opinion concerning this one side of his job.   A discussion is reasonable,  but there is now ground for hatin on him. 


tomek:  the HA does not feel he is trolling,  but just enjoyes a moment of the game that comes in seldom occasions,  a moment in which he experiences a  new side of fighting.  It is fun being chased and doing ones best to take down a few with you. 

remember when you played chasing in school,  how cool it was to run and dodge from the guy trying to catch you?  now imagine there is a horde of them,  but you are faster then most and can shoot and bump them : )

personally,  I think they deserve that experience.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bredeus on October 06, 2012, 10:55:17 pm
To be honest I dont see much difference between HA and Ninjas both are tend to do everything opposite way than rest of fighters. Yuo should undestand them their horse mind is the armor ;)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Teeth on October 06, 2012, 11:21:45 pm
It is fun being chased and doing ones best to take down a few with you. 
Fun for one guy, while the other 100 are watching something that is boring and has zero impact on the outcome of the round. Apart from that, mostly the other players left alive do not actually have the power to take him down. Ofcourse in the situation that this is all about there were other mounted ranged, so the kick was unnecessary.

In this situation its not delaying. But when there is no one to attack the horsearcher while he is gravely outnumbered, it is delaying. He is just extending the round at his own leisure. It should be common courtesy for a horsearcher to go melee cav or dismount when he is last alive. Sadly it isn't, so its time we got a rule for horsearchers.

In Mercenaries mod, horse archer arrows stop doing damage as soon as they are the last one alive. Excellent mechanic.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Torben on October 06, 2012, 11:26:30 pm
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I have seen jackie take out the last 12 players of the enemy team a few times,  many HA do have the courtesy to jump into the pack and die,  and the very few times they decide to play,  I feel its absolutely ok.  ofc it gets on ones nerves but thats just their class.  personally think adding a rule to this is stupid,  after all he can be polled if he actually is trolling.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 07, 2012, 04:32:51 am
I assume that admins have the ability to start a poll even when they have them disabled, maybe that is the solution: poll "Slay horserarchernamehere 1/ Yes 2/ No"

Would be simple solution, and obviously not just for HA, there are plenty of stuff we see a lastman doing that makes 100+ ppl rage at having to sit and watch stupidy...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 07, 2012, 11:12:55 am
I regularly see BlackCorsair_HA stay last vs 5-6 guys and come out as a winner.


Exactly who I thought about when I read his "Horse archer cannot kill multiple enemies" line :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 07, 2012, 07:35:50 pm
I always surrender and drop weapon when I m last survivor (I m french, it helps) cause I m real man....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: DeWalker on October 07, 2012, 09:42:12 pm
I always surrender and drop weapon when I m last survivor (I m french, it helps) cause I m real man....

It's more manly to engage ivani4 style
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Vibe on October 08, 2012, 11:37:27 am
just buff the goddamn katana
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on November 10, 2012, 04:19:43 pm
This happened just couple mins ago. Thomek kicked Fallen_jtobiasm for being "afk". There were around 1vs20 and Fallen_jtobiasm was in the team of 20 players. He told that he alt tabbed for couple secs and after Thomek had said "Tobias u there?" Fallen_jtobiasm started to move, however he didn't reply in the chat, probably because this fucktard Thomek referred to him as false name "Tobias" rather than "Fallen_jtobiasm" or even "jtobiasm".

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Everkistus on November 10, 2012, 04:31:45 pm
I can confirm this, it was a very short wait in between asking and kicking. I was also following Tobi, he was afk for maximum 5-6 secs.

I request more common sense in kicking people.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on November 10, 2012, 04:39:42 pm
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Same happened to me some time ago  :rolleyes: Epic admin is epic  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on November 10, 2012, 04:54:55 pm
To be honest, I like Thomek. So maybe I am a bit biased, but he's a lot more observant compared to most admins when it comes to bad behaviour and morons who ruin the game experience for others. Sure, he did a few bad calls, the HA kick for example, but other than that he's a lot better than nuffen. Be greatful for that.

Maybe he thought that jtobiasm had been leeching the majority of the round based on his activity at the time of the kick? Granted, maybe not the best way to determine if someone's leeching as that is a very arbitrary and circumstantial decision.

However, for the most part Thomek is a good and observant admin. I was riding the lynch band wagon in that thread when he had kicked Göztepe, so maybe I shouldn't speak - but Wiltzu, in my fair opinion, I think you need to let some stuff go and get off of Thomek's back. It isn't very constructive when you're antagonizing him every chance you get.

@Thomek: Maybe let go of the trigger when it comes to leechers and delaying and whatnot, as you have a tendency to be overzealous. You do a good job of listening to players who are being harassed by rule breakers, so you should definitely keep admining.

Everyone just needs a chill pill. :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on November 10, 2012, 05:07:15 pm
One thing I like about Thomeks admining is that he don't look away when one of his clanmates is delaying / glitching, he gives them a warning or kicks them. And trust me, he does it :D

Unlike other admins who don't care if their own clanmates is delaying.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on November 10, 2012, 05:18:00 pm
I love Thomek because he kicks all leechers or long afk hidders... same day I reported one of them in I chat and thomek kicked him.... It is easy to go spec when you are afk.

I m bored to fight wjile few mates keep hidden in ruin without fighting and I m happy when Thomek kick them fast...

thomek you are good admin and I would surely be more chocolate chip cookie than you if I m admin ! (I will never be...)

Please don't warn me for this comment, I don't spam I m right man in right topic I think.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on November 10, 2012, 09:23:24 pm
but Wiltzu, in my fair opinion, I think you need to let some stuff go and get off of Thomek's back.

Sorry Bjord but no. He has proven from time to time that he hasn't learned from his mistakes. I don't know what kind of person he's for example in ts, but I sure know he makes bad moves on and on as an Admin. I can't stand leechers but I also can't stand of ppl who abuse their powers.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 11, 2012, 04:27:42 am
I specced him twice after he was last that round.

He just showed typical advanced leecher behaviour. Which is standing still, then moving a little bit, then standing still. Like someone alt-tabbing just to check that they don't get qmld. Now add to that him being a HA, and perhaps you will understand. Being a HA leeching, deliberately waiting until the end of rounds is potentially a huge time-waster..

Perhaps it was a mistake, but then again, it was only a kick. Perhaps it was a bit fast decision, but I just came out of siege...  :rolleyes:

And yes, Wiltzu, perhaps I came across as a bit arrogant and that's why you hate me, but you are right, I do make mistakes sometimes, and my patience is not the greatest. Believe me, it's not easy to be an admin, decisions have to be done quickly, and if you also want to play, you sometimes have to act fast. Kicks imo is not a great punishment, and should not be taken as a great insult.. Also, sometimes things look different from different perspectives. Perhaps you only read the kick msg while I had observed him for a longer period ok? Perhaps even through previous borderline events such as was the case with Goztepe. Sometimes you only see the last drop.

IDK if you know this Wiltzu, but the playerbase is full of trolls and respectless people who don't have any problem whatsoever about wasting time. To deal with that you need a firm hand, and some bad shots sometimes gets fired. The end result though, is better than being lenient and passive because you are afraid of getting into long debates over kicks.

In any case, if it wasn't for you I would have resigned my adminship long time ago. My problem now is that some of you would find it too sweet a victory! :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on November 11, 2012, 11:08:20 am
In any case, if it wasn't for you I would have resigned my adminship long time ago. My problem now is that some of you would find it too sweet a victory! :D

Point made. Demote
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on November 11, 2012, 11:36:39 am
Thomek. Your decision was to kick a guy who was clearly in the winning team and who tabbed out. Yes it was only a kick, only a kick that took out his multiplier. You make decisions that really don't effect the outcome of the round, you just ruin those ppls multi who you kick. Göztepe got valour and you didn't let others get tick cause you didn't want to get extra repairs. Most of the ppl are too tired to give a flying fuck about gold, they want mostly xp.


I still don't get why Shik keeps Smoothrich as an admin, but well Shik doesn't seem to be the most wisest guy out there. Cmp on the the other hand is a wise guy so I'm trying to find reasons why he actually keeps you as an Admin when you clearly haven't learned from your mistakes. The only reason I find is that you must be somewhat nice person, at least towards him. Try to think before you act, think also that does the outcome change if you kick/don't kick a player, in this game kick means you lose xp/gold. Also, make sure you say the name properly: "Tobias" isn't "Fallen_jtobiasm".



I'll never make peace with you, never. I just can't. You've abused too much. You have made too many mistakes and you sure haven't learned from them. I'm sorry man.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Paul on November 11, 2012, 06:45:32 pm
Smooth is the admin NA deserves. Not being that much better, EU deserves Thomek.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Andswaru on November 11, 2012, 07:53:50 pm
Well done Paul.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on November 12, 2012, 12:02:41 pm
Smooth is the admin NA deserves. Not being that much better, EU deserves Thomek.

chuckled irl.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Unreal on November 14, 2012, 07:52:38 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 16, 2012, 11:18:25 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Smoothrich on November 28, 2012, 09:50:25 pm
For an official admin who carries himself with such an affection of good judgement, casting off over 30 pages of criticism as trolls, it seems you are lacking in the one and only quality expected out of a video game administrator.  Common sense.

Because nothing says "12 hour ban for leeching" on EU_2 siege like someone on defense standing by the flag, right?  No warning, no chat, no checking of my score or kills or active playing for the past hour.  Just an instant ban on the NA ping person in a dress, weapon in hand, standing by the flag, because I wasn't twitching around spamming feints in the air with a +3 katana.

The only leeching going on was you bleeding away your credibility of good decision making.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on November 28, 2012, 11:23:53 pm
Smoothrich, I repeatedly watched you standing still doing nothing at all, through several rounds. I think I kicked you once, but you were back standing still there.

Looked like leeching to me. Tbh I thought it was an impersonator. And believe me, leeching is a serious problem on EU2.

But nvm, I'll unban you since you seem to really be Smooth :)

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on November 28, 2012, 11:30:06 pm
Thomek always make the right choice :

-right in banning leecher
- right in unbannig him if he explain his case there...

I say THOMEK is a GREAT admin ! Go ahead like this ! You are in right way ! Don't listen QQers and jealous...

PEPE LOVES YOU THOMEK !
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prinz_Karl on December 09, 2012, 01:57:50 am
Speaking in the words of another person I too have to note a misbehaviour of Thomek in his actions as admin. He seems to be judging strongly spontaneously and sentimentally and tends to prejudge easily, if he has recognized someone in his opinion as potential rulebreaker.

The case is about muting that first doesn't sound like a big thing but it turned out that the mute was without justification but simply because Thomek didn't want to hear from the player. This time as it seems nothing had been done by him that was offensive in chat, he wasn't spamming not insulting. Only asking to Thomek if he could apologize for his teamhit. This might be troll or not, but it's no reason to mute someone for half an hour. The right choice would have been to use the option that the player is only muted for you and not muted in game.

As unimportant as this seems it's showing that Thomek might be a bit too hasty in his decisions if he has already prejeduces on certain players and can't be objective as admin. This is the right place where this is belonging so I'm leaving this here.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on December 09, 2012, 09:10:54 am
Thomek muted me because I told people he called me a swede (which he did). Then when he tried to unmute me he had a "bug" that made it impossible. Lies! Lies I say!

I demand compensation! Hopefully in the way of sexy Thai ladyboys massaging me :D

Oh, and Thomek shall forever be called "that Swede" by me without being allowed to retaliate. :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Azlanek on December 31, 2012, 04:12:25 pm
Meh, you're a troll anyway. :P

If criticising people who try nevertheless to make your game easier is the way to release your pressures, then that it shall be. Just know that the admin is the real martyr here. ;)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: bagge on January 02, 2013, 10:36:40 am
I demand compensation! Hopefully in the way of sexy Thai ladyboys massaging me :D

wtf
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on January 02, 2013, 11:14:09 am
wtf
I am not surprised... not at all!  :oops:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on January 02, 2013, 06:30:46 pm
wtf
Silence, knave! Go be homosex somewhere else!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on April 03, 2013, 12:11:50 am
Changes map because he wants to & didn't allow a poll. Soon as map comes on with a hug hill he doesn't like it as he is a ninja so he abuses his admin and makes an excuse saying "unbalanced". But the map was not unbalanced. Yet the next map one team wins 4-0 so where is his excuse to say a map is unbalanced.
10:56 PM <Ninja_Thomek> it was a random plains, very favorable to one side so i changed it
10:56 PM <Ninja_Thomek> basically 1 side spawned on a huge mountain
10:56 PM <Ninja_Thomek> other team on flat plain
10:58 PM <jtobiasm> yes so?
10:58 PM <jtobiasm> you didnt give the map a chance
10:58 PM <jtobiasm> the team who spawned on the flat
10:58 PM <jtobiasm> won the first round
10:58 PM <jtobiasm> so you cant say its unbalanced can you?
10:59 PM <jtobiasm> map after a team won 4-0
10:59 PM <jtobiasm> why didnt you change that map
10:59 PM <jtobiasm> that was unbalanced I guess
11:01 PM <jtobiasm> so your unbalance statement is not valid
11:02 PM <jtobiasm> so you obviously abused your admin
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lennu on April 03, 2013, 12:34:47 am
Well, IMO the random plains was horrible. It's real pain to fight on a mountains like that and the other team had clear advantage from the hills. Altho nothing really forced the other team that spawned on the flat area to actually go straight without using the terrain cover provided by the hills around the map. It was just plain stupidity to stay on the flat area  :lol:
Still, mountains are a pain in the ass to fight on for every class. So I think it was a right decision from Thomek to switch the map into arena. (it's not on the rotation so I think it makes a nice change aswell)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on April 03, 2013, 12:41:12 am
Well, IMO the random plains was horrible. It's real pain to fight on a mountains like that and the other team had clear advantage from the hills. Altho nothing really forced the other team that spawned on the flat area to actually go straight without using the terrain cover provided by the hills around the map. It was just plain stupidity to stay on the flat area  :lol:
Still, mountains are a pain in the ass to fight on for every class. So I think it was a right decision from Thomek to switch the map into arena. (it's not on the rotation so I think it makes a nice change aswell)

They didn't have an advantage though, like I said to him on IRC the team who spawned on the flat won the first round and the only round which was played. The team who spawned on the ground could of done what me & tomas did we ran around the hill which put us above them on top of the bigger hill but of course thomek didn't give people time to realise that as it was only about a min into the 2nd round when he decided it is unbalanced.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Wiltzu on April 03, 2013, 11:17:19 am
Lennu it was not. It was nice Cav+Ranged map, which arena on the other hand isn't. Thomek didn't put any poll up, he did ask but as far as I can remember no one said yes, I personally did say (surprise surprise) no.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Atze1 on April 03, 2013, 11:43:37 am
It was nice Cav+Ranged map

No, it was not a "nice" map and that change to arena well it isnt the best map but it was funny to play and as lennu said it isnt in the map rotation so it was a nice change
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on April 16, 2013, 11:33:29 am
Lol I just saw this :mrgreen: http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/thomek-(cheater)/
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Weren on April 16, 2013, 01:19:44 pm
Lol I just saw this :mrgreen: http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/thomek-(cheater)/
Get that cheater! I'll prepare the bonfire.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on April 16, 2013, 01:37:04 pm
Slowpokes... having that sig for days now.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Paul on April 16, 2013, 03:35:55 pm
I guess I'll rename it to "show names admin tool" or something.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Son Of Odin on April 16, 2013, 07:40:48 pm
I guess I'll rename it to "show names admin tool" or something.
Just rename it "Admin name here* is awesome" or "derp knows where you are hiding. come and fight like a man" :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on April 16, 2013, 10:15:03 pm
Don't rename it. It's funny :(
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on April 17, 2013, 01:50:58 am
lol :) didn't know this!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 10, 2013, 09:20:02 pm
I play on EU servers maybe once every few months, and every time I play it seems like the admins are putting up map vote polls...

If you don't like the maps that much, can't you go behind the scenes and remove them from the server list?   If not, can you just let us play the maps that come up?  I put up with a lot of terrible maps (that I personally don't like, but other people do), so when it turns to a map that I actually like, and some others naturally don't, can we just play it out?

Seems to be a pretty level/fair approach...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on May 10, 2013, 09:39:29 pm
Completely useless on the battlefield (for his team at least) but still one of the last proper admins around.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on May 11, 2013, 01:39:44 am
I play on EU servers maybe once every few months, and every time I play it seems like the admins are putting up map vote polls...

If you don't like the maps that much, can't you go behind the scenes and remove them from the server list?   If not, can you just let us play the maps that come up?  I put up with a lot of terrible maps (that I personally don't like, but other people do), so when it turns to a map that I actually like, and some others naturally don't, can we just play it out?

Seems to be a pretty level/fair approach...

I guess you play EU late nite, and yes sometimes there are map changes, mostly however because the current map sucks for few players, or people want some change to a map out of rotation.. It's generally a more free mood late night, so we run an Arena, Nord Town or Village.

Last time however, I must admit it was borderline, but all we tried to do was to change to a lulz for fun map. Just to get some epic variation.. Now because map-naming is incorrect for many maps, I changed it to the wrong one and thought that was enough playing around.

That's really all there is to it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on May 11, 2013, 10:05:43 am
I suppört you Thomek !
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Michael on May 14, 2013, 12:43:49 am
Completely useless on the battlefield (for his team at least) but still one of the last proper admins around.


Even I was a better admin than him.

He gets raped by cav in open field -> mapchange

He gets a more or less random headshot -> mapchange

Even a drunk Wookiemonsta had more discipline.


I dont complain much about admins, and there are admins that were even more horrible, like Leiknir or some IG-idiot who banned/ kicked me for teamkilling a teamdamager because I could,

Thomeks behavior is very often not okay.

He favors people he knows and apparently likes over others.
One guy can delay round for minutes, the other guy gets kicked for backpedalling in combat. 
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: obitus on May 14, 2013, 12:49:57 am
I blamed Khorin for kicking me for using ALL CAPITAL LETTERS but it was actually Thomek.

Now I blame Thomek for both kicking me for no reason AND making me falsely accuse Khorin.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on May 14, 2013, 12:51:11 am

He favors people he knows and apparently likes over others.
One guy can delay round for minutes, the other guy gets kicked for backpedalling in combat. 

Dude, not true. One time when I was still part of the Ninja clan I hid behind a tree as the 2nd guy alive far out of reach, Thomek almost kicked me for delaying. Also, you complaining about an admin because you got banned for teamkilling, because you "could". Just shows that your not admin material, like you stated in your post.

You might not rage / hate other admins because it does not affect you, but when an admin, like Thomek who wont look the other way punished you for your wrong behavior against another player etc. you are the one to blame for getting kicked / banned. And I do not believe Thomek would just switch a map because he got killed early on, he must have better reasons seeing Thomek is one of the few admins I find to be "mature".
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on May 14, 2013, 10:58:08 am

Even I was a better admin than him.

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on May 14, 2013, 11:15:38 am

Even I was a better admin than him.

He gets raped by cav in open field -> mapchange

He gets a more or less random headshot -> mapchange

Even a drunk Wookiemonsta had more discipline.


I dont complain much about admins, and there are admins that were even more horrible, like Leiknir or some IG-idiot who banned/ kicked me for teamkilling a teamdamager because I could,

Thomeks behavior is very often not okay.

He favors people he knows and apparently likes over others.
One guy can delay round for minutes, the other guy gets kicked for backpedalling in combat.


I sense some madness in you, Michael.  :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on May 14, 2013, 12:02:03 pm
Thank you so much for the feedback! I will think long and hard about this.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 14, 2013, 05:59:30 pm
Good point, it was prime time for NA, but really early in the morning on EU when the map poll was going up.  I just honestly don't like map changes, I put up with a lot of shitty maps, just want other people to do the same when a map I like is being played :P  But either way, it's pretty much a non-issue at the end of the day.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on May 16, 2013, 09:56:52 am
A short story on how Thomek (and most of the others) became admin(s):

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on May 16, 2013, 11:41:25 am
In fact I didn't. :)

I wasn't even on irc before i got admin, I just applied when they asked for new admins back in the old forums..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Lennu on May 25, 2013, 07:26:43 pm
I have to admit that I don't like the way you handled this:
http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/why-am-i-banned-49778/ (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/why-am-i-banned-49778/)

I don't know the guy, and I don't really care. But 2 day ban for being afk ONCE on a siege server?

This is how you should have done it:
1. step: Warning, you have nice purple admin chat for it. If no response, repeat yourself.
2. step: Kick, if the story in the thread above is true, you wouldn't have needed to go further.
3. step: 1 hour ban
4. step: 2 day ban

I think you skipped the steps 2 and 3 in this case. Wasn't there, so I can't say for sure. But IMO you're being too hard on him, Unless he has a large criminal record of leeching ofc.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on May 25, 2013, 08:25:44 pm
I don't want to disclose how many times, and for what he has been banned for before, or even if. He can tell if he wishes.

He was in light gear and afk, no newbie so he knows he should go spec if he leaves his comp.  Looked like a leecher to me.

In addition to this I might have shortened the ban if he would say sorry for going afk or show another attitude.

If you look like a leecher, and behave like a leecher, well, then most probably you are a leecher.

Also, 2 days is not a very hard ban..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 03, 2013, 05:11:01 pm
To be fair, if he was going to be AFK for the length of a driving lesson spec isn't the right thing to do anyway. A straight up alt+f4 is the way to go.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: RuanXiaoQi on June 06, 2013, 10:38:13 pm
A. an. Because be of high frequency ban ~~http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/ban-again-~/
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos on June 06, 2013, 10:40:45 pm
Yeah, fuck you Thomek  :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: RuanXiaoQi on June 06, 2013, 11:03:46 pm
 Thomek
Game Admin

 
Renown: 759
Infamy: 299
 
   
Faction: Ninja_
Game nicks: Ninja_Thomek

Re: BAN again ~
« Reply #4 on: Today at 09:51:20 pm »
Ok I just read previous posts on this.

RenGong_Generals_ZhangLiang, please wear armor that at least give you a chance in combat. In my opinion we cannot have players with high consistent pings, not being able to contribute.

I think cases like this deserves some decision on high latency players from the admin team or devs.

I will unban for now, but if I catch you leeching you are out.

Just to let you know, I'm against having high ping players in EU.
Report to moderator     Logged
A. an. Because be of high frequency ban ~~     http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/ban-again-~/
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Paul on June 06, 2013, 11:31:10 pm
Forget racism and classism. Pingism is the new shit.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 06, 2013, 11:45:27 pm
Thomek could you please ban Thomek always wear leecher gear and never contribute.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos on June 27, 2013, 07:27:40 pm
Thomek made me sit in his lap, and then he touched me..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on June 28, 2013, 12:04:38 am
If we are both over the age of consent, and we enjoy it, I think it's ok.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: elvis1325 on July 29, 2013, 08:49:42 am
Can a poor NA player please see a pic of the mythical flaming katana we have heard so much about. Twas said to be wielded by a bringer of security and bans... an admin as they so call it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Axel Raby on July 29, 2013, 02:27:54 pm
It looks exactly like a standard katana, but it generates light near it.
Nothing special.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on July 29, 2013, 03:23:08 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Axel Raby on July 29, 2013, 04:27:09 pm
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Wow.
I really need to change my settings. I just saw a light generated from it, but never a fire.

/spamoff
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Kampfkarotte on October 14, 2013, 11:28:02 pm
Today I got kicked by Thomek and I thought I have to post this. I was playing cav in battle, was last survivor and I knew I get valour when I make just some points more. After about half a minute I was quite sure that I have the valour (I had x5 that's why it was important for me) and wanted to suicide charge, but right in that moment I got kicked without any warning and that's what I criticise. I'm not sure if he has to warn, but it would be just much more nice if he did.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 15, 2013, 12:29:51 am
You went on and on 15 vs 1 even Flags were going up, without taking much risk or trying., and this is not the first time you take your time, so you know the rules.

Valour is no reason to delay, then we might as well remove the whole delaying rules. Next time I see you delaying you will have a ban, consider yourself warned.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 15, 2013, 06:27:40 pm
I was there and Thomek was perfectly right... Love Great Admin.. Ban last Annoying HA !
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on October 16, 2013, 05:02:15 pm
I knew Thomek was a bit harsh, since a lot time ago, he banned Franky because he was in spectators for over an hour, and he banned him for that, FOR 3 DAYS.

Some minutes ago, Thomek banned Jarlek for a WHOLE WEEK, 7 DAYS, because as Thomek said , he abused the chat, and by abuse he means that Jarlek kept saying to him to hug him

I suggest the devs allow to Thomek to make his own set of rules when he is online so we can follow them.


I think it`s time to retire Thomek.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Nordwolf on October 16, 2013, 05:07:11 pm
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on October 16, 2013, 05:08:49 pm
I knew Thomek was a bit harsh, since a lot time ago, he banned Franky because he was in spectators for over an hour, and he banned him for that, FOR 3 DAYS.

Some minutes ago, Thomek banned Jarlek for a WHOLE WEEK, 7 DAYS, because as Thomek said , he abused the chat, and by abuse he means that Jarlek kept saying to him to hug him

I suggest the devs allow to Thomek to make his own set of rules when he is online so we can follow them.


I think it`s time to retire Thomek.
Actually, the hug thing was what lead to the mute, not the ban. Even though I didn't spam it (I think i asked him 4-5 times over 2-3 maps).

The ban was for thanking Thomek for the valour I got on siege. I guess he thought I meant it as an insult, which I can see now, but I just meant it as a joke. Didn't think he would be really pissed at it.


This isn't the first time he banned me for the horrible crime of... writing in chat. It's kinda ridiculous with the amount of hate that is daily spewed ingame, he bans me for silly jokes/taunts. I don't know what he has against me, but I tried to be friendly to him today (hence the request for hugs) but apparently he didn't want to, sad "fuck off" and muted me.

EDIT:
Here is the "terrible" thing I said last time he banned me for "chat abuse":
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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on October 16, 2013, 05:13:40 pm
Ok, lets say that the "thank you thomek " was indeed an insult, you don`t ban someone for a week for just one insult, an hour, yes, a day maybe, but not for a week, unless you have something personal against the guy who you ban.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on October 16, 2013, 05:21:23 pm
Thomek is retarded, end of story, nothing new.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on October 16, 2013, 05:22:52 pm
Thomek is retarded, end of story, nothing new.
He isn't retarded, usually he's  decent guy. The only problem he seems to have is that he gets angry/upset at things he shouldn't.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 16, 2013, 05:24:42 pm
I knew Thomek was a bit harsh, since a lot time ago, he banned Franky because he was in spectators for over an hour, and he banned him for that, FOR 3 DAYS.

Some minutes ago, Thomek banned Jarlek for a WHOLE WEEK, 7 DAYS, because as Thomek said , he abused the chat, and by abuse he means that Jarlek kept saying to him to hug him

I suggest the devs allow to Thomek to make his own set of rules when he is online so we can follow them.


I think it`s time to retire Thomek.

The Franky story was back in the day when Eu1 used to be full all the time, and Franky never turned off cRPG, aka he was always clogging a spot.  I warned him about it repeatedly, but he didn't change his habits, so eventually, over a year or so, he got a ban.

About Jarlek, well he can't keep his mouth shut about me, obsessing like some kid with mental problems. I don't want his attention, something I have expressed numerous times, but he doesn't seem to listen, or be able to change. A week ago or so, he got a ban for the same behaviour, which I lifted after he promised to start behaving. Well.. he was not able to, even when I ignore him, both in admin chat and normal chat, and in game behaviour.

This time around, first he got a mute, when the mute passed because of map change he was back on track with rapid chat spam. What did he think? Didn't he get the hint? It's a great mystery to me, but it seems he is completely unable to change behaviour. (Unlike you, dear Panos) :)

Now, Jarlek, if you really cannot help yourself, and actually change your behaviour towards me, you are rapidly approaching a permaban. (Like, next time you are out of control) I don't want to do it, but I also cannot stand being harassed whenever you are on the server. It's really up to you.

* Btw. I would have done the same if players were harassing other players like Jarlek does.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on October 16, 2013, 05:34:38 pm
* Btw. I would have done the same if players were harassing other players like Jarlek does.

saying: "thank you thomek for my valor, love and kisses" = harassment  :rolleyes:

Maybe he's not a retard, but he acts like one.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 16, 2013, 05:38:38 pm
Well, Falka, I sincerely doubt it was heartfelt and true from Jarlek's side. Thus it is ironic sarcasm, and means the opposite. Don't you think?

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on October 16, 2013, 05:41:41 pm
Thomek best Admin!

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on October 16, 2013, 05:50:18 pm
saying: "thank you thomek for my valor, love and kisses" = harassment  :rolleyes:

Maybe he's not a retard, but he acts like one.
He overreacts, yes, and it's silly, but retard is a bit too strong in my book.

Well, Falka, I sincerely doubt it was heartfelt and true from Jarlek's side. Thus it is ironic sarcasm, and means the opposite. Don't you think?
Despite what you think, that "thank you thomek..." and "love and kisses from jarlek" was NOT meant as an insult, but merely a joke. I even added a smiley there to make it obvious. I didn't try to piss you off Thomek, I just tried to come with a joke. I apologise if you took it as an insult/taunt.

I actually like most of your admining (especially against delayers), it's just this silly "ban-jarlek-if-he-says-more-than-3-things-in-chat" that I got something against.

Look, when I saw you come on siege today, I actually tried to be nice to you. I said hello and tried to talk with you ingame. Then you just decided to mute me and not say anything. No "Jarlek, stop it" or "Jarlek, I don't wanna talk right now". You went instantly for mute jarlek so he can't talk with anyone on the server.

Yes, when I reconnected after restarting my router (sometimes fixes my terrible ping) I probably shouldn't have said anything to/at you. I talked mostly to panos until I got valour and decided to come with a joke. I probably shouldn't have, but don't you think immediately banning me for a week right after that was a little over the top?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fartface on October 16, 2013, 06:21:55 pm
Well I think an entire week is realy hash considering you've got to power to mute him entirely for an entire map, but most admins are silly anyway. I doubt there is anything you can do about it Jarlek....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on October 16, 2013, 06:23:50 pm
Well, Falka, I sincerely doubt it was heartfelt and true from Jarlek's side. Thus it is ironic sarcasm, and means the opposite. Don't you think?

I have no doubt about it, but do you really think saying what Jarlek said is a harassment which needs so harsh punishment? I could even agree that saying it over and over again to some random player in some circumstances could be consider as a some form of "harassment", but saying it to you? An admin who is supposed to be a bit more "level headed" (I hope its correct word) than an average Joe? Not to mention you have more than 15 years, so shouldn't you act a bit more calmly?

I'm not saying he's a retard irl, but here he acts like one not for the first time.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2013, 06:37:02 pm
So glad I don't live in EU or play on EU servers.

NA Admins best admins.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 16, 2013, 06:45:32 pm
Don't look at the ban as an isolated event. It's been going on for a very long time.

A week ban is very level headed. I've spoken to him, explained it to him, made deals with him, banned him, lifted bans, warned him, muted him, unmuted him. Everything. None of that have worked.

That's why he gets a week.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on October 16, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
Don't look at the ban as an isolated event. It's been going on for a very long time.

A week ban is very level headed. I've spoken to him, explained it to him, made deals with him, banned him, lifted bans, warned him, muted him, unmuted him. Everything. None of that have worked.

That's why he gets a week.
I see you don't want to be reasonable.

The "explaining" you did to me as to why you banned me for the first time all those months ago was that what I said was "poisonous to the community". Please tell me what I said today was "poisonous".

That deal we made was that if we were both online ad you thought I was getting out of line, you would ASK me to stop. You decided to go for instant mute&ban instead, over things that wasn't even meant to be insults/harassment/anything negative. Sure, the mute was a warning, but what I said after that was never meant in a hostile way so I don't see why I should get a week ban for it.

Most of those bans you made you never explained why, even when I asked for the reason. You have only lifted one ban on me and that was after the deal we made. A deal you also didn't follow as you immediately decided to mute me instead of warning me. All te other "warnings" you've given me ingame have been instant mutes, usually followed by "fucking idiot" or something similar. If you think my jokes in chat are "harassment" then I would like you to not insult people yourself.

You have yet to unmute me ingame after muting me. Don't lie.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on October 16, 2013, 07:22:18 pm
Don't look at the ban as an isolated event. It's been going on for a very long time.

A week ban is very level headed. I've spoken to him, explained it to him, made deals with him, banned him, lifted bans, warned him, muted him, unmuted him. Everything. None of that have worked.

That's why he gets a week.

I don't buy it. He said nothing which was offending or insulting and even if "it's been going on for a very long time" this ban is wrong. It's like puting someone in jail for looking at shop cause in the past he robbed a few shops.

And I have seen a few more your actions which were... let's say: "wrong". But whatever...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on October 16, 2013, 07:29:15 pm
Ok Thomek, make a list with all the words/sentences/phrases that annoy you, and post it so we can know from now own, what words to avoid, because in all honesty I don`t want to get banned for a week because I said "Thank you" to someone.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jarlek on October 16, 2013, 07:33:25 pm
Ok Thomek, make a list with all the words/sentences/phrases that annoy you, and post it so we can know from now on.
This please. It would be nice if I got some sort of "this is OK but this is NOT OK" list of what I am allowed to type in chat. As of right now, I'm apparently not allowed to write anything ingame.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on October 16, 2013, 07:36:06 pm
Ok here's the list:

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The problem arises when something is spammed again and again or can be considered harassment.. Everyone have their limits, and Jarlek reached my limit a long time ago, and got plenty of warnings. I normally don't care if someone insults me in game.  Especially if they have a good reason.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: [ptx] on October 16, 2013, 07:38:48 pm
What you people are missing is that there is a thing called Admin chat - it's visible only to admins, yet normal players can write to it TO ASK AN ADMIN FOR HELP. Jarlek seems to have somehow gotten the idea that this exists for him to constantly pester and spam admins with useless crap. What's worse, this still works, even if he gets muted. He has been told NOT to do this countless times, by pretty much every EU admin, that has had the poor fortune of encountering him, yet he persists.

When an admin tells you not to do something, you generally stop doing that. When admins (plural) tell you to stop doing something, you totally stop doing that.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: NuberT on October 16, 2013, 07:42:41 pm
Thomek is the best admin, people actually start to behave when he enters the server.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 16, 2013, 07:48:00 pm
Just have good behaviour and you won't fear Thomek....

Thomek... you make great job and Crpg is better good well fine happy easy love sweet when you are there !

Don't listen theses children.... I ove you and PEPE's love is bigger than their hate...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on October 16, 2013, 07:51:40 pm
Just have good behaviour and you won't fear Thomek....

Thomek... you make great job and Crpg is better good well fine happy easy love sweet when you are there !

Don't listen theses children.... I ove you and PEPE's love is bigger than their hate...

lol..
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 16, 2013, 10:25:17 pm
And if thomek and karasu the abuser are in-game at the same time, only horrors await! Can't even imagine the Reign of Terror if Serfonz came back.


   Well, joking aside, as [gtx] said, the admin chat function is an essential tool for in-game support. If we get spammed there constantly, we might even naturally stop looking at it as we should thinking it's another spam message (by spam, I mean, non support related message, or admin interaction).

   Punishment delivered, Jarlek knows perfectly what this meant and will surely change is in-game behavior in the future, some of us know perfectly the curse that is being super social in this game.

Just my thoughts anyway, peace.

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Moncho on October 17, 2013, 12:04:09 am
... as [gtx] said, ...
What? When was gtx made an admin?

Or do you mean [ptx]?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 17, 2013, 12:11:08 am
Jarlek is a little nancy boy, Thomek slapped him on the toushie real good. Mad props, Thomek!

Fuck, I wish I could have been there to witness justice being dealt...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Erzengel on October 17, 2013, 12:54:29 am
What? When was gtx made an admin?

Or do you mean [ptx]?

Isn't that the same person?  :o
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: the real god emperor on October 17, 2013, 07:50:01 am
Isn't that the same person?  :o

I hope you re joking...   :|

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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on October 17, 2013, 08:41:10 am
I knew Thomek was a bit harsh, since a lot time ago, he banned Franky because he was in spectators for over an hour, and he banned him for that, FOR 3 DAYS.

Some minutes ago, Thomek banned Jarlek for a WHOLE WEEK, 7 DAYS, because as Thomek said , he abused the chat, and by abuse he means that Jarlek kept saying to him to hug him

I suggest the devs allow to Thomek to make his own set of rules when he is online so we can follow them.


I think it`s time to retire Thomek.

Thomek is retarded, end of story, nothing new.

The only problem he seems to have is that he gets angry/upset at things he shouldn't.

Maybe he's not a retard, but he acts like one.

I'm not saying he's a retard irl, but here he acts like one not for the first time.



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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: wayyyyyne on October 17, 2013, 09:06:16 am
I think what it really comes down to is that Jarlek needs to learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP when no one's laughing at his jokes
Whenever I'm on EU1 and Thomek and Jarlek happen to be aswell Jarlek earns himself a few hours of either getting muted or banned in some way or another (actually it's really just Jarlek talking shit to people).
Jarlek didn't get this 7d ban out of the blue.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: rufio on October 17, 2013, 09:21:06 am
thomek in midlife crysis , care when hes on
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 17, 2013, 09:25:25 am
I think what it really comes down to is that Jarlek needs to learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP when no one's laughing at his jokes
Whenever I'm on EU1 and Thomek and Jarlek happen to be aswell Jarlek earns himself a few hours of either getting muted or banned in some way or another (actually it's really just Jarlek talking shit to people).
Jarlek didn't get this 7d ban out of the blue.
I wonder if the pun is intended.
Also Thomek thanks for brightening up the forum with drama and anticav threads, keep doing what you doing <3
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 17, 2013, 09:54:12 am
All I can imagine reading these posts regarding Thomeks actions he must be like "fucking kids ..." when making his reply :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 17, 2013, 11:12:59 am
I think what it really comes down to is that Jarlek needs to learn to SHUT THE FUCK UP when no one's laughing at his jokes
Whenever I'm on EU1 and Thomek and Jarlek happen to be aswell Jarlek earns himself a few hours of either getting muted or banned in some way or another (actually it's really just Jarlek talking shit to people).
Jarlek didn't get this 7d ban out of the blue.

Wayne, you should post more.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on October 17, 2013, 11:17:20 am
Damn where Christo at, missing all the drama shiiii
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fartface on October 17, 2013, 12:29:52 pm
Compared to the regular eu1 bullshit that comes along this is nothing.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on October 17, 2013, 01:45:46 pm
Compared to the regular eu1 bullshit that comes along this is nothing.

There is a limit for how much a person is allowed to annoy others. I know, because I was essay banned for it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fartface on October 17, 2013, 02:08:50 pm
There is a limit for how much a person is allowed to annoy others. I know, because I was essay banned for it.
That was one of the best stuns in cRPG.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: karasu on October 17, 2013, 02:44:42 pm
That was one of the best stuns in cRPG.

It was no stunt, was simply karma kicking back.  :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fartface on October 17, 2013, 05:44:32 pm
It was no stunt, was simply karma kicking back.  :D
I´m so suprised I never got banned actualy .
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on October 19, 2013, 07:47:03 am
Just have good behaviour and you won't fear Thomek....

Sure, that's true. Also dont kill him 4 rounds ina  row.. that's a kick... and don't lance him too much, thats a kick some days, other days a short ban. Also do not call him out about his shit, especially not with screenies, that will make him mount a hate campaign on your every action, the fucker has SO MUCH energy when his inferiority complex kicks into overdrive. It's when he starts a smear campaign including outright lies about you that you know you hit a nerve.

Oh and one day it was a kick because I after I killed 3 rounds running and wanted the 4th, and he had managed to get couched already, and I asked (in innocence) where he was. Literally those words: "where is Thomek?"... THAT was a kick too.

Infact, your wrong Pepe, it's pretty easy to get shat on no matter what you do when Thomek is on.

Edit: Im just kidding Thomek, keep trying to keep order in the monkeyhouse, were all bananas in here.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on October 19, 2013, 10:45:17 am
Edit: Im just kidding Thomek, keep trying to keep order in the monkeyhouse, were all bananas in here.

It is MY job sucking admins ! Stop it now !  :D :D :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 03:40:40 pm
This cunt just kicked me from the server for no reason. This is the 3rd time he's kicked me for no reason. Also check the thread he changes map so him and his ninja fuck buddies dont get shot by archers.

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This from ages ago when he muted me for no reason aswell.

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A shit admin and a beta phaggot irl

Infact, check all the thread, he's a dumb cunt how much is he paying for admin?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Jacko on December 14, 2013, 03:44:24 pm
Thomek y u so beta
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on December 14, 2013, 03:49:58 pm
Awful admin, but managed to obtain and keep his position in this community thanks to being in good terms with right people. Luckily, I don't break server rules and stopped chatting for the most part so the likes of him have no chance to ban me. Unless they want to pull off bullshit ban.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 03:54:09 pm
Lesh you are so paranoid and plain wrong you have no idea. Jtobiasm, stop rage polling.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 03:57:09 pm
Lesh you are so paranoid and plain wrong you have no idea. Jtobiasm, stop rage polling.

How was it a rage poll? If you wasn't up devs arses you would know what a joke is.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 03:57:48 pm
Don't be so humorless, it was a joke kick!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 03:59:52 pm
Don't be so humorless, it was a joke kick!

Jokes are suppose to be funny.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on December 14, 2013, 04:21:03 pm
Lesh you are so paranoid and plain wrong you have no idea. Jtobiasm, stop rage polling.

Personally witnessed you abusing your admin powers in the past, kicking HAs and stuff like that which was later clarified by cmp as accepted player behavior. You banned me once for an hour, stupid reasons as well. Think I have four bans so far, two were me asking for ban because there was no admin to see me breaking the rules. Other two are your ban and last ban I received for kicking archer twice in a row. Because of that, despite having 4 bans I still believe my right to comment admin actions is in good standing.

And by seeing your name in here I decided to use that right. If you believe the way I'm expressing my opinion is unacceptable, please contact global moderators or overlords. I'm the person who follows rules and if I'm breaking them in any way, warning is more than enough for me.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 04:37:54 pm
Through 3 years I may have made some bad calls, and I can too be pissed off and cross the line, like all humans.  but I believe I'm more or less just most of the time. I can't recall the situation where I banned you for 1h but I'm sure you deserved it, you do have talent for trolling..

Do you have any idea how little fun it is to admin? It's seriously like being a kindergarden unkle, and everyone tries to influence you all the time. There are loads of people who never got banned, because it's actually very easy not to get a kick or ban or warning.

You really make me feel like resigning my adminship right here, but I can't let you gain anything as it would just feed your ego. Fuck it I think I'll just mute you, can't stand your insane posts.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 05:08:47 pm
Nar but I've never been banned but you're the only admin who has kicked me more than once.

Also, yes I do know what it's like being an admin. I was an admin on the Call of duty 4 servers for the biggest community , I found it very easy to not abuse the powers.
A simple warning in admin text/chat is enough to stop people doing something. Yet you're incapable of doing that.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 05:34:25 pm
Would a warning have stopped you from rage/joke polling next time? Really?

Well here's a warning: don't rage/joke poll. Or ban, cause a kick won't stop you.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on December 14, 2013, 05:38:32 pm
Nar but I've never been banned but you're the only admin who has kicked me more than once.

Also, yes I do know what it's like being an admin. I was an admin on the Call of duty 4 servers for the biggest community , I found it very easy to not abuse the powers.
A simple warning in admin text/chat is enough to stop people doing something. Yet you're incapable of doing that.
Seriously? I mean... you can be one of the biggest cunts in the ingame chat next to Bjord. You haven't been lately to me, so I am not blaming here but I remember you being a while back. Just saying...

And just to give an example: even when I was a Bandit, I've never been kicked by Thomek back then. So, he can't have such a low tolerance level. Though admittingly you're already pissing him off with just being a HA :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 14, 2013, 05:40:48 pm
Tbh. Ragepolling and polling without reason should not even be warned, you already know the rules by now, or should.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 05:41:50 pm
And just to give an example: even when I was a Bandit, I've never been kicked by Thomek back then. So, he can't have such a low tolerance level. Though admittingly you're already pissing him off with just being a HA :P

Thomek banned Franky for 4 days, because he was in spectator for over an hour.


Thomek is a nice guy, but lets his rage take over his decisions.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 05:44:59 pm
.. like i wrote millions of times before Panos.

I banned him because he was clogging a spot on a full EU1 for a year constantly more or less. I used to kick him, but after having to kick him nearly every time I logged on I asked him to stop doing it. Repeatedly. No effect, then hell.. Ban. I lifted it and he changed his behaviour. 1 More person could play on EU1 prime that after that. Probably you too Panos.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 06:01:11 pm
Would a warning have stopped you from rage/joke polling next time? Really?

Well here's a warning: don't rage/joke poll. Or ban, cause a kick won't stop you.

Would not being a cunt make you a better admin? srs question


And just to give an example: even when I was a Bandit, I've never been kicked by Thomek back then.

I don't know who the bandits are so I have no clue what this means. ;)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on December 14, 2013, 06:28:23 pm
Thomek never ban PEPE because PEPE respects rules...... simple....

Pepe loves Leshma and Thomek with same intensity.......

Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on December 14, 2013, 09:18:29 pm
You really make me feel like resigning my adminship right here...

PLEASE please do. Your not capable of EVER making an unbiased judgement.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Erzengel on December 14, 2013, 09:57:38 pm
PLEASE please do. Your not capable of EVER making an unbiased judgement.

Said one of the worst kids in this community...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on December 14, 2013, 10:16:35 pm
Said one of the worst kids in this community...  :rolleyes:

Your funny man: remember, I can type w/e I want, because I neither hold responsibility nor seek it. I do w/e I want all the time, IRL and in this game, and that sets me free, but still you get upset. Dont cry all the time, and people like me will be nicer to you. As it is, you are unable to distinguish a person from the persona you have built for them in your mind. Take a step back.

Remember: irreverance =/= immaturity.

But getting upset when encountering irreverance = forgetting reality.

EDIT: Btw, ask anyone who actually knows me: Theres nothing in my power that I will not do to help anyone who asks for and needs it. I'm actually a really nice relaxed guy, but you wont ever see that, because the limits you set in your mind means you dont ever understand anyone else's motivation.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 14, 2013, 11:33:39 pm
BlindGuy you're one of the most self absorbed assholes I've ever seen in my entire life.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Andswaru on December 15, 2013, 02:26:46 pm
Smooth is the admin NA deserves. Not being that much better, EU deserves Thomek.

Still holds more than true.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on December 15, 2013, 03:31:37 pm
BlindGuy you're one of the most self absorbed assholes I've ever seen in my entire life.

WHY you limit me to only ONE of them?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 04:37:46 pm
lol, lets all go and bash that asshole Fips instead of Thomek  :lol:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on December 15, 2013, 07:56:53 pm
We do that ingame, every time we play siege at Helm's Deep. Shame he's not around to read it.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Bjord on December 15, 2013, 11:49:01 pm
Seriously? I mean... you can be one of the biggest cunts in the ingame chat next to Bjord. You haven't been lately to me, so I am not blaming here but I remember you being a while back. Just saying...

And just to give an example: even when I was a Bandit, I've never been kicked by Thomek back then. So, he can't have such a low tolerance level. Though admittingly you're already pissing him off with just being a HA :P

Thanks.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Molly on December 16, 2013, 10:03:53 am
Thanks.
You`re welcome  8-)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Kloney on December 26, 2013, 09:15:40 am
I have a secret crush on Thomek. I care not about his admin.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on December 26, 2013, 01:07:26 pm
Ah.. well :) You are not the only one having an obsession it seems..  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Fredom on January 07, 2014, 10:40:07 am
Good admin, always helpful and listens to what you want to say, +1 bro, go on being so superb admin!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on January 07, 2014, 05:44:45 pm
+9000
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Leshma on January 07, 2014, 05:45:22 pm
Worst admin 2014.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on January 07, 2014, 08:12:33 pm
Best admin 2014
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on January 08, 2014, 01:45:55 am
Thank you Pepe for showing understanding, and from you! A RL admin!
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Nessaj on January 08, 2014, 09:52:37 am
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Title: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: Krax on July 01, 2014, 03:24:46 am
1. Name of your character involved  :   Byzantium_Love_More
2. Name of offending character        :   Ninja_Thomek
3. Time and server : 02:25ish 01.07.2014 EU_1
4. Written description of what happened, the whole story. Also what happened before and after.:
Im the last one alive on my team, and im activly fighting (just killed a guy and reloading) then thomek says no delay and waits like a few seconds and kicks me.... while i was fighting. not one rule where broken. So it clearly shows that thomek has a real problem with eighter me or my class, and lacks the selfcontrol you need as an admin. So i rejoin and ask's if he is stupid, not the best choice of words but hey its crpg so thats polite.  i just had a problem with his abuse of power. Then the same thing happens and im the last and does the same thing.... now he does nothing... this shows imo that he knows the kick was wrong... then NeXT map i nudge him with my horse (no knockdown) and he ban's me for 3 days... i mean WTF. he clearly cant handel having admin powers.

5. Why you think the offender did what he did : He have problems with ranged, esp mounted ranged. its not like this is the first time..... or 25'th time.....

6. Multiple Screenshots
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7. Names of players who witnessed what happened.**
see screenshot
Title: Re: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: fetus on July 01, 2014, 03:38:27 am
Well Thomek crazy these days.
Title: Re: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: LordRichrich on July 01, 2014, 04:18:55 am
I asked him why he kicked you and he said something along the lines of "bumping for the nth time". The reason given was "Griefing" which seems like you really.
Title: Re: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: Thomek on July 01, 2014, 01:36:06 pm
1. First I warn, you vs 8 and you drag it out.

2. Then I kick.

3. Then I mute.

4. When you bump me on purpose out of spawn (yes you knocked me down, dont lie.) then I ban.

What this ban is about:

Countless times I've told you not to delay at every single opportunity you have. Who knows how many minutes of gameplay you have wasted. Multiplied by players on server, you are taking away hours and hours of playtime from other people. We are not just talking a few occurrences of timewasting, you have shown a strong will to annoy people as much as possible, whenever the chance arise. A defense like you are "just playing your class" does not apply because you are so consistent. If you would fight enemies with an effort proportional to the situation you would have no bans, but you insist on plonking on 8 enemies from a distance when you are last one left.

c-RPG is a bit like a schoolyard, and right now, the other kids don't want to play with you anymore. That's whats happening.

Now, how to avoid trouble in the future. Stop being a timewaster, if you happen to be last man alive, vs impossible odds, charge and fight, make it a good fight..
Title: Re: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: Krax on July 01, 2014, 05:02:06 pm
thats just the same old bullshit.

My reload time is what it is. its nothing i can do anything about.

what i dont understand is why im supposed to just stop playing when im last and let the others kill me. because that is what you are saying. My build has 0 PS and 0 skill in 1h.

I dont see any others do this when they are last and against impossible odds.

I know you and me have two diffrent looks on whats delay, but im playing after the rules.... if there where a rule that said that im not allowed to be mounted when im last id get of my horse.... but there isnt and im not hiding and camping far away... i only ride away since :
1. it takes a really long time to reload (not my fault)
2. if i get hit it interupts my reload and i need to start again.

so thats why i need to put some distance and a tree between me and the shooter (if there are one)

Also i take bigger risks when im last.... and normaly end with me geting a 2h weapon in the face
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Protemus on August 03, 2014, 09:47:36 pm
Awful Admin, don't even bother arguing with him, you can't fight the cRPG maffia, the roots of this corruption are deep and strong, wouldn't even be suprised if Thomek is like a brother or nephew of one of Devs so that's why noone can remove him.

PS: I'm on the crusade to -1 every his post ever made, starting from this "home" thread of him. It's personal and the only legit way of fighting this filth called Thomek.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: F i n on August 03, 2014, 10:20:02 pm
 Check yoself before you reich yoself!
Title: Re: BAN Ninja_Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on August 04, 2014, 08:26:21 pm
im supposed to just stop playing when im last and let the others kill me.

In a word, Yes.

I dont see any others do this when they are last and against impossible odds.

You also don't see when a lancer is about to couch you, when people are sneaking up on you, many things, I would imagine in real life too. Your awereness is bad and at any other class but horse ranged you would be destroyed again and again. As it is you play the class with most reward vs least risk, and you don't sit quiet, everything from your name to your chat ingame is designed purely to inflame. So well done, you got what you wanted.

It's sad that people dislike you more than me even, and I go out of my way time and again to irritate and annoy people in chat, on forums, and ingame.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on August 05, 2014, 12:17:54 am
Every time horse my old friendcher gets banned, god smiles upon us. Thomek might be a terrible admin, but purely for banning horse my old friendchers he will achieve redemtpion.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on August 07, 2014, 11:19:57 am
Every time horse my old friendcher gets banned, god smiles upon us. Thomek might be a terrible admin, but purely for banning horse my old friendchers he will achieve redemtpion.

Just out of curiosity what class do you play?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on August 07, 2014, 04:36:38 pm
Just out of curiosity what class do you play?

Basically I don't play at all since I gave away my loomz, in last 4-5 months played 2-3 days. But my hate toward horse my old friendchers is still stronk :P

I used to play 2h, 1h no shield and shielder, never touched horse my old friendchery, on all other classes combined I've wasted probably no more than 1 generation :P
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Gnjus on August 07, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
I used to play 2h, 1h no shield and shielder, never touched horse my old friendchery, on all other classes combined I've wasted probably no more than 1 generation :P


Basically - a typical hater/abuser of cRPG.  :wink:
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Prpavi on August 08, 2014, 09:41:57 am
Basically I don't play at all since I gave away my loomz, in last 4-5 months played 2-3 days. But my hate toward horse my old friendchers is still stronk :P

I used to play 2h, 1h no shield and shielder, never touched horse my old friendchery, on all other classes combined I've wasted probably no more than 1 generation :P

Ah...
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Erzengel on September 23, 2014, 12:27:43 pm
http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/intentional-team-kill-on-the-spawn/msg1071597/#msg1071597 (http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/intentional-team-kill-on-the-spawn/msg1071597/#msg1071597)

Somebody admits an intentional teamkill and only gets a warning from Thomek.

What the hell happened to this mod?  :D
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Thomek on September 23, 2014, 01:22:17 pm
He hadn't gotten a ban for 2 years.. and he was sorry :)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on September 23, 2014, 03:06:44 pm
Time to give adminrights to PEPE  :shock: :shock: :shock:


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Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on September 23, 2014, 03:14:12 pm
Time to give adminrights to PEPE  :shock: :shock: :shock:


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OR, better, we ban you, your lame jokes, your attention seeking, your whoring out of your kid, your whining, and your fucking nonstop bullshit in chat?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Erzengel on September 23, 2014, 03:18:46 pm
OR, better, we ban you, your lame jokes, your attention seeking, your whoring out of your kid, your whining, and your fucking nonstop bullshit in chat?

Or, we just calm down?
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on September 23, 2014, 03:19:50 pm
Or, we just calm down?

No, cannot, any calmer I would be unconscious, and that would be bad because I'm on the shitter atm :C
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on September 23, 2014, 03:30:07 pm
Ban me if that makes you more happy... I want you happy...


LOVE cream on your admin's butt form me to you my loveadmin....
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: BlindGuy on September 23, 2014, 06:48:53 pm
Ban me if that makes you more happy... I want you happy...


LOVE cream on your admin's butt form me to you my loveadmin....

I +'ed your post to show u that just because you disagree with someone you dont have to - their posts while you type the opposite you silly little man. Damn your sad.
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: Falka on September 23, 2014, 07:27:56 pm
I +'ed your post to show u that

I gave him minus, I want to make his son cry  8-)
Title: Re: [EU] Thomek
Post by: pepejul on September 23, 2014, 10:27:48 pm
I +'ed your post to show u that just because you disagree with someone you dont have to - their posts while you type the opposite you silly little man. Damn your sad.

I - your post for the same reason.... or not.... In fact I don't care about your opinion.