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Cyclopsided:
Note: My thread got stickied! Read the entire thread, there is a LOT of knowledge and discussion contained within. Explaining the reasons ~why~ some of the stuff you may ask is the way it is.


This thread is dedicated to getting players solid builds that will work the best for them to play in game with the desired results. If the style of play is too much of a gamble or is not fun, it is not a valid build or tactic. As somebody who has done countless instant level 30 characters, I've probably done and tried everything you will suggest. If I haven't done what you are asking -- I will. I will make a character and judge what build(s) do that best!
WILL UPDATE THIS STARTING POST AS PEOPLE REQUEST BUILDS, WITH THE REQUESTED BUILD FROM FURTHER IN THE THREAD.
*All builds made with the Character Calculator Located here: http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm
*New calculator put up by Druzhina_Urugash: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/
* Archer damage calculator http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/?go=archercalc

NOTE: due to the most recent update in march, 2013 where many 1hs became 0 slot, 1h is the go-to hybrid for sidearms for crossbows, etc. Especially with the slot increase to 2 for all xbows. I have not updated the individual descriptions since, however.

Standard 2h/pole dedicated builds, Just change 2h wpf to Polearm if desired:
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    Strength: 27
    Agility: 12
    Hit points: 72

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 9
    Shield: 1
    Athletics: 4
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 4

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 139
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Shield and IF can change for player taste. Carrying a shield on your back to pull out against ranged is typically a good idea though. A slower, but very hard hitting build that can take punishment. Is not very slow, but it can be backpeddled by agi stacking characters if you have a short weapon and chase with heavy armor. If you wear light armor that is typically not an issue.
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--- Quote ---    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 18
    * Hit points: 62

    * Skills to attributes: 8

    * Ironflesh: 3
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Shield: 1
    * Athletics: 6
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 6

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 156
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1
Note: Shield and IF amounts change to style.
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--- Quote ---    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 57

    * Skills to attributes: 8

    * Ironflesh: 2
    * Power Strike: 6
    * Shield: 1
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 7

    * One Handed: 1
    * Two Handed: 164
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1
Note: Shield and IF amount change to style.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 54

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 173
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Fast but doesn't hit hard. Can change some WM for Ironflesh if desired. You may want to take a point from ironflesh and put it in shield if you are worried about arrows.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 24
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 69

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 8
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 148
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Some IF can be changed for shield. The standard North American 2h build.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 30
    Agility: 9
    Hit points: 79

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 7
    Power Strike: 10
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 3
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 132
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Typically no shield skill, the amount of HP you have negates the need for some. Some prefer a point in shield for an old board shield. I would suggest it.
It is a little slow due to only 3 athletics, prone to be backpeddled. Just don't chase.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 70

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 7
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 148
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Good at everything. Can use a huscarl, good damage, won't glance, takes hits without dying. Solid. Probably best build in the game.
There is a variant where you take 0 ironflesh but convert those into more strength and have 24/15 with 8 power strike instead. However that has no ironflesh and significantly less HP.
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1h/shield Lancer cavalry:
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 53

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 120
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 119
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: No IF and only 18 strength means it will die in one or two hits to most things, which is the downfall to it being faster. Can change athletics for IF if you always ride horse, although I suggest against it. The 21/15 build is probably a little better, but this is faster and a little more nimble.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 60

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 5
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 110
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 115
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: I prefer this over 18/18 since you are more likely to survive and kill enemies when you hit them. The only thing you lose out on is a small amount of speed. Can change athletics to IF if always riding a horse. I suggest against that though.
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Dedicated archer builds
*change IF to PS for melee optional.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 59

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 164
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Light of foot, no melee. The best build for an archer who shoots and moves. Designed to sport the Rus bow or Longbow.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 24
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 69

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 8
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 148
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
note: Hits hard, can take hits. Can change Ironflesh to Power strike if you want to carry a melee weapon. Ironflesh is listed since this is under the dedicated archer section.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 0
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 4
    Power Draw: 5
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 173
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: I personally don't use this build, Most people swear by it though for Horse archery. It is pretty accurate but does low damage. As with all HAs, it is pretty bad on foot when dehorsed.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 57

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 3
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 156
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Athletics, power strike and IF are all up for changing for your preferred role in this build. it is flexible, does alright damage and maneuvers fairly well. If you want Melee, get power strike and cut your IF and lower your athletics. Up to you.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 1
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 3
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 156
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: No melee, worse on foot. If you are always on a horse and always shooting it is better than 18/18.
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the Min-Maxer delight Dedicated archery builds
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 53

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 3
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 173
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 3
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 7
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 165
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 24
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 59

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 0
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 3
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 8
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 156
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
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Crossbow Builds
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 54

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 50
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 169
    Throwing: 1
Most popular Xbow build, atleast on NA. Specifically made for arbalest. Xbow + melee Hybrid. Can go more or less 1h WPF as desired, some prefer 100 1h WPF at the cost of Xbow accuracy and reload rate -- While others prefer all their wpf in xbows. Some players put melee wpf in 2h or pole arm, and carry a staff or a Langes messer.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 12
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 49

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 4
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 9

    One Handed: 100
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 166
    Throwing: 1
Uses regular/heavy Xbow. Is at max Accuracy for both of them, more WPF only makes you reload faster at this point -- hence the 100 melee wpf. Being an agility build, it can not take many hits at all.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 59

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 3
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 100
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 146
    Throwing: 1
Pretty straight forward and solid. More of a balanced build that can also use Xbow. Melee WPF can be in 2h or pole arms as well.
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Cyclopsided:
*reserved

post any build type requests and I'll make a level 30 build optimized to fit your desired playstyle the best.
if you have ANY questions do not hesitate to ask in the thread or send me a PM.

Fast dedicated lancer builds.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 3
    Athletics: 0
    Riding: 8
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 165
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 50

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 3
    Athletics: 0
    Riding: 9
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 0

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 111
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Really fast and maneuverable lancer. But that is ALL it does. If you can afford to always ride a horse then it IS solid. If you can't.... You shouldn't be making a dedicated lancer anyways.
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Unique Requests:
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 63

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 6
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 50
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 151
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Can change for 1h proficiency.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 15
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 60

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 5
    Power Strike: 5
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 7
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 5
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 50
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 160
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: Doesn't hit very hard, but you can run. Can change for 1h proficiency.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 27
    Agility: 9
    Hit points: 80

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 9
    Power Strike: 9
    Shield: 2
    Athletics: 3
    Riding: 3
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 3

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 132
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Notes: It is a strength based build that takes lots of punishment, is a little slow since it has 3wm and 3 ath. It has 2 shield so you can protect yourself from ranged attacks, and can also be used as a heavy shock troop Lancer while riding a rouncey. Anything you lance on this is going to die in one hit.
Normal cavalry would be disadvantaged when their horse is taken out, but this is a heavy infantry character that will crush agility characters in melee combat when it gets to the fight :). This build is not for players who like to be fast.
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Reyiz:
1h cav :D

Cyclopsided:

--- Quote from: Reyiz on June 27, 2011, 09:39:26 pm ---1h cav :D

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1h cav is a pretty balanced build since you need both enough speed and damage enough to kill with bump slashes.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 53

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 156
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: No IF and only 18 strength means it will die in one or two hits to most things, which is the downfall to it being faster.
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--- Quote ---Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 15
    Hit points: 60

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 5
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 5

    One Handed: 148
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1
Note: I prefer this over 18/18 since you are more likely to survive and kill enemies when you hit them. The only thing you lose out on is a small amount of speed.
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Socrates:
That HA build seems to have little WPF. Does it really affect much? Kind of curious.

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