<04:56:39> "Shik": To make things more clear:
<04:56:51> "Shik": 1. if attackers run out of ladders and they can't breach the walls, they have lost
<04:57:08> "Shik": 2. if defenders have already lost all spawns and 3 guys are hiding in a place they can't get down from, they have already lost
<04:59:39> "rufioOO": seems solid, still our unease with the situation is not misplaced since this was not the argument at the start. would be nice to have a link to this ruleset, so i can link it to the threads i posted in , and appologize
<05:00:12> "Shik": unfortunately we are dumb and don't have a ruleset written down
<05:00:15> "Shik": but this has been the precedent
<05:00:17> "Shik": for a while
<05:00:31> "Shik": it's kinda like those weird societies where yo udon't have a written code of law
<05:00:44> "rufioOO": ok
<05:01:16> "rufioOO": can i quote: "Shik": To make things more clear:
<04:56:51> "Shik": 1. if attackers run out of ladders and they can't breach the walls, they have lost
<04:57:08> "Shik": 2. if defenders have already lost all spawns and 3 guys are hiding in a place they can't get down from, they have already lost ?
<05:01:22> "Shik": sure
<05:01:39> "Shik": I'll prolly have that added to the official rules at some point
<05:01:41> "rufioOO": ok, thanks for your time shik, and gj clearing it up like this, sorry for the troubles
<05:02:16> "Shik": and to clarify, the defenders are allowed to exist as long as they are in a position to get the flags back up
If we ever get more NA heroes like Shik fighting for true American freedom against the Hospitaller hegemony, we'll be happy to fight side by side with them, at least for as long as we can tolerate the ping. 
<05:02:22> "Shik": but if they're not even trying
<05:02:28> "Shik": or if they would die from fall damage
<05:02:32> "Shik": or if they can't even do it
<05:02:36> "Shik": then they've basically lost
<05:02:51> "rufioOO": solid. i concur
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