7 is only going to be 7 and 8 is only going to be 6 and the end. I wonder if there will be more action and less jawjacking?
Could be a lead up to a trilogy of films to finish it off. Maximum jawjacking.
Is that vague digital picture and a date supposed to convey information about what it actually is?
ahh yes, game of thrones. my predictions for the new season:Yet you still gonna watch it :P
the good guys lose
girl get raped
dragon kills shit in the season finale
still nothing has really happened after 1000 episodes
what if they all just get together to fight off the white walkers and they realize how much fun they have together and peace reigns forever. the end.or even better what if they all get together and feed Daenarys' to the wights. Which in turn gives the wights indigestion so they go home.
So I had a weird dream this night, like I was watching the very last episode of GoT.
I'll try to describe it as well as I can, so careful for spoilers!
Big epic battle between the living and the dead somewhere, Jon Snow leading people in battle and they kinda wreck the wights and WWs. Then, when it's almost done, the Night King appears and Jon goes to duel him. Night King uses dual swords for some reason and fights similarly to Dayne. He catches Jon between his blades, picks him up with it and slams into the ground, piercing him through afterwards. Jon screams as Night King's face transforms into John's. Margery, picks up a valyrian steel mace lying nearby (I'm sure I saw someone fighting with it before), and runs, screaming, towards them. I remember wondering who she is gonna hit - Jon or the Night King with Jon's face. But the king waves his hand as Margery approaches, and she falls dead.
Then, from afar, a huge writing "Конец" which is "The end" in Russian comes closer, bowls Jon's and Margery's bodies away and stands in the center of the screen.
Then I watch the preview to the next episode (nevermind that it was supposed to be the last episode, it's a dream), and I see a bunch of tied up rose branches magically walking the road somewhere, crying with Margery's voice. She stumbles upon naked Jon and Melisandre who take her to Melisandre's secret base with computers and stuff, somewhere in the woods. Jon says something about his survival, but I don't remember what it was. Then I saw Tormund sitting on the iron throne, trying to decide what to do next.
So here it is. Should I contact HBO to become a script writer?
PS: I wasn't drunk before, in process or after the dream, mind you.
I really dislike this OP Arya and experienced bitchface Sansa, I wouldn't even complain if they killed both characters offscreen.I know right. And another thing I thought GoT had a big budget why only have The Hound tell Thorin what he sees in the fire and not pan deeper and show that opening scene with the undead army while he is saying what he sees. Seems lazy.
No offense but you guys are retarded. It was the first ep and without any spoilers the opening seen is amazing.
Were you expecting season ending battles in the first episode?
8/10 on the first ep for me
Were you expecting season ending battles in the first episode?
As I said I dislike Sansa as a character, I actually don't dislike her that much. I dislike Sophie Turner's acting though.
why only have The Hound tell Thorin what he sees in the fire
Why are people complaining about the Hound's vision not being shown? This is so ridiculous.We all ready know Bran can see stuff I think that whole vision would have been better suited to that scene with the hound but I guess we have to see Bran seeing stuff to remind us that Bran can see stuff.
First of all, they have already shown the dead marching with giants among them, so I assume the Hound saw the same picture as Bran did, why waste the time to show more of the same?
And secondly, and most importantly, the main point in that scene was showing the Hound's face and his emotions while he was seeing this vision. For a character that has always been purely pragmatic, a realist, a cynic, to see something as fantastic as the dead army is huge. And I think the actor nailed it perfectly.
Overall, I really liked the episode and how the scenes flow one into each other in usual GoT style, and I also think the plot pace is great.
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I guess we have to see Bran seeing stuff to remind us that Bran can see stuff.No, we have to see Bran seeing the fucking dead giants marching to the wall to show us that Night's king has dead giants.
complaining just for the sake of it.
No, we have to see Bran seeing the fucking dead giants marching to the wall to show us that Night's king has dead giants.Nice job editing my comment so it fits your reply. You would have still seen the fucking dead giants marching to the wall to show us that Night's king has fucking dead giants.
But I guess you're complaining just for the sake of it.
I ain't seen this new episode yet but previously in the series whenever someone was seeing something in the fire didn't we just see their faces in those cases as well? Like when Stannis did it.Probably I dont remember, maybe I am just remembering the book stuff. It would have been awesome if they had panned into the fire though.
Nice job editing my comment so it fits your reply. You would have still seen the fucking dead giants marching to the wall to show us that Night's king has fucking dead giants.Thanks, though I actually misunderstood your post a bit.
I was half convinced this was about some new Avatar related something
ye i don't like sansa as a character, but she changes and progresses over the course of the show which is nice in terms of development
i just think the performance by turner throughout has made sansa seem way more flat as a whole that what she should be at this point
Well she doesnt really progress as a character, its more like a snap from being a weakling to strong leader with no real middle ground. At least thats how it felt to me, just all of a sudden she decided to be a completely different character. I dislike her too, boring and annoying character.
I kind of like Aryas stuff going on, and the hound is enoyable. But the rest is just wack, so many enjoyable characters killed off and now we're left with these? Come on bruh. When the dramatic music played as dragon girl with her diversity gang landed it seemed like i was suppose to feel as if were finally there or some sort of accomplishment has been done, i think? I didnt anyways, it just felt like thing happened what now.
Well she doesnt really progress as a character, its more like a snap from being a weakling to strong leader with no real middle ground. At least thats how it felt to me, just all of a sudden she decided to be a completely different character. I dislike her too, boring and annoying character.
With so many "main" characters in the story, I don't really feel the need (nor do I think it'd be all that easy) to like every one of them. Arya, Jaime, Jorah, Tormund, and the Hound (maybe Brienne as well?)... those are basically all the ones I really care for at this point. Tyrion is of course dope, but since his story overlaps with Daenerys' all the time he's definitely gotten the short end of the stick as of late. Jon is decent I guess, but he's such a classic protagonist that he falls short of the more developed characters. Bran has been neglected for so long it's hard to really care for what he's doing anymore. Feels like he's been "on his way south" for 3 seasons now. Also Euron is growing on me as a villain... I at first feared he might be a throwaway henchman of Cersei, just a simple plot device to give her a fleet of ships, but at least based on the latest episode it seems he might be getting some more screen time.
ed sheeranI'd disagree, this scene was important for Arya to give her a more humane outlook on her "enemies", namely that not all the enemies are evil. It's something she lacked a bit IMO.
The wolf scene is used to show that nymeria is still alive. I think in the books we hear about a pack of wolves lead by a direwolf but I don't think they had shown that in the show yet.
One thing I didn't get - is Sam going to just simply cut off all the "stonescale" pieces off Jorah's body? Is that the secret healing process?
It just seems like an overly painful and not effective way to heal.
-stuff about sansa and jon-
Well she doesnt really progress as a character, its more like a snap from being a weakling to strong leader with no real middle ground. At least thats how it felt to me, just all of a sudden she decided to be a completely different character. I dislike her too, boring and annoying character.She's abused and raped and betrayed and bullied around. Everyone knows that makes you a strong leader!!! The actress has no depth or nuance, she just comes across as an annoying bitch, with a horrible voice when doing her Ice Queen impression to boot.
I kind of like Aryas stuff going on, and the hound is enoyable. But the rest is just wack, so many enjoyable characters killed off and now we're left with these? Come on bruh. When the dramatic music played as dragon girl with her diversity gang landed it seemed like i was suppose to feel as if were finally there or some sort of accomplishment has been done, i think? I didnt anyways, it just felt like thing happened what now.
Euron had a pretty great last episode. Definitely enjoyed Episode 2. Also what the fuck Theon...
I really liked the scenes with Randyll Tarly this episodes, he's my favorite character alongside Stannis.
Also wtf, people like Jon? He's a bastard shit and was crowned king in the north? nigga pls. also sansa "undermining" jon is just good since he's annoying also what she said last episode about giving the castles to other houses is just logical also what she said about him not going is also logical fuck jon snow
What should Theon have done? Walk forward so that Euron cuts his sister's throat?
None of her suggestions had any logical backing. Jon is doing what he has to do. The castle bit was an especially retarded suggestion from Sansa. Make two large houses hate you and plot their revenge for no gain in the slightest. Great plan Salsa!!! Jon did the smart thing: forgive the ones who had nothing to do with the fighting, thus making two allies where you had enemies, and making them forever in your debt. All of this costs... nothing. The houses that are loyal are still going to be loyal because they were never entitled to those castles in the first place.
yo dawg im gonna be loyal to you despite your family killing my familyMore like yo "dawg im gonna be loyal to you despite my family betraying you and dying on the battlefield because you saw through that and gave my family another chance and let us keep our lands even though no one could've expected you to be so kind."
Safer bet to have a child and a woman plotting against you rather then a child and a woman with soldiers plotting against you.
With so little wood on the iron islands how was Euron able to build a better fleet than the iron fleet that Yara and Theon fled in?Dunno, seemed a bit confusing -- because of all the "she stole the best ships of the Iron Fleet!!" talk. And let's not even talk about the plausibility of the whole scenario, timing and intelligence wise.
Is that really Arya or that other girl from the assassin club wearing her face seeing that Nymeria recognized her face but didn't seem convinced it was Arya.
None of her suggestions had any logical backing. Jon is doing what he has to do. The castle bit was an especially retarded suggestion from Sansa. Make two large houses hate you and plot their revenge for no gain in the slightest. Great plan Salsa!!! Jon did the smart thing: forgive the ones who had nothing to do with the fighting, thus making two allies where you had enemies, and making them forever in your debt. All of this costs... nothing. The houses that are loyal are still going to be loyal because they were never entitled to those castles in the first place.
I really liked the scenes with Randyll Tarly this episodes, he's my favorite character alongside Stannis.lol what does he have to fear by going to dragonstone? He died once remember and how many times has Beric died and got a rez. The worst case scenario would be danerass locking him in a dungeon.
Also wtf, people like Jon? He's a bastard shit and was crowned king in the north? nigga pls. also sansa "undermining" jon is just good since he's annoying also what she said last episode about giving the castles to other houses is just logical also what she said about him not going is also logical fuck jon snow
damn dude what does he have to fear he can take dragon glass and go kill the white walkers if he dies he can just be revived, he got revived once remember?Beric was rezzed like 7x already.
Beric was rezzed like 7x already.
earbleeding voiceHoly shit but does she have one of the worst possible voices ever when doing this Ice Bitch impersonation
Little Finger needs to go...
If that would be the consequence of Sansa's fuck up, I'm all for it. Slimy bastard.
but man, samwell cutting off that greyscale looked delicious
That fucking pie crust. Savage transition.as savage as the last episodes chamber pot soup transition.
The first 3 seasons were great. 4th Season was pretty good. 5th was where the show officially jumped the shark and 6th was absolutely trash.
All GoT has now are the CGI and epic battles. Otherwise it's so damn shit now.
The Hound is my favourite character right now, he has an awesome story arc and his story is very personal, very "him against the world" sort of thing and you can see how situations and experiences are slowly making a better man of him, he's also fucking hilarious.And still they had Brienne beat him up even though that never happened in the books. And for what? Who the fuck knows. Brienne is apparently the best warrior out of anyone ever, because she's a tall woman or something.
And still they had Brienne beat him up even though that never happened in the books. And for what? Who the fuck knows. Brienne is apparently the best warrior out of anyone ever, because she's a tall woman or something.
And the actress walks like she's got two wooden legs, such athleticism I have rarely seen.
They essentially destroyed Jon Snows character, at the start of the battle and during they had him completely act out of character. He lost his shit and charged his soldiers into a death trap just because he saw his long lost Brother shot by an arrow. That completely goes against Jon's character and how he managed to survive and thrive for so long, he has always been smart and in control of his anger, I fail to believe seeing his brother get shot by an arrow would make him sacrifice himself and all the men following him, it's completely against his character. They also had the giant act like a fucking retard, like he couldn't have just fucking trampled through that line, it would have been like Brock Lesnar charging through a crowd of Toddlers.Ikr... so stupid.
So I guess Tywin Lannister set a precedent for riding a horse into the throne room so it is now ok that Euron did.
How can Daeneris not believe what Jon Snow was telling them about the Night King and his army of undead especially when she herself said that things are changing she has dragons which have not been seen for awhile in the world? She has dragons why would she be in disbelief of the others?
I mean come on she has the fastest and safest means of travel to fly over the north and see for herself.
- how can the lannister army be powerful enough to wipe the reachmen after fighting the North, the Riverlands, and some other foes ?
While the simple answer to most of your questions is "the show runners are ignoring the books almost entirely at this point," this one is at least somewhat explained by the show. Randyll Tarly jumped ship and sided with the Lannisters instead of the Tyrells, hence strengthening the Lannister army while simultaneously weakening their enemy's. Exactly how large of a force he is supposed to command is unclear, but for this point at least the writers kind of covered their arses.
So I guess Tywin Lannister set a precedent for riding a horse into the throne room so it is now ok that Euron did.Dragons are completely different from magical undead people.
How can Daeneris not believe what Jon Snow was telling them about the Night King and his army of undead especially when she herself said that things are changing she has dragons which have not been seen for awhile in the world? She has dragons why would she be in disbelief of the others?
I mean come on she has the fastest and safest means of travel to fly over the north and see for herself.
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They are stripping away all the stuff I found cool about Jon Snow from the books- the Ravens gone and seems not to be coming back, ghosts been MIA for how many episodes/seasons now? They have Jon eating dirt because a dragon flew over him, a dragon he already knew about. He has seen Giants riding mammoths, white walkers, wights and the nights king, wargs and lived to tell about it all. Sure he should have had a reaction but not a scared in the dirt one.
- how couldn't the rest of DT's fleet could get ambushed in plain daylight without them knowing or anything.
I don't know how true this is, but this is 100% spoiler material... Don't watch it if you care anything about GoT... Kinda sad i did.(click to show/hide)
I REPEAT DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DONT LIKE SPOILERS
He did way more than duck he was flat on the ground. And I never said he should have been with out reaction..Oh my god he did the sensible thing if a dragon is coming at you! What would ducking have done? Why would he have only ducked? LOL. "He should have reacted but not in a way that would have saved his life!"
Any pretence of the story taking place in a real world is done, distance and time are meaningless. This goes back a few seasons now, but it's all nonsensical. Armies and navies and characters insta teleport to wherever they're needed for the shitty plot to unwind, with zero logic or explanation.Yeah it's weird, the first few seasons generally respected travel time, but this season in particular doesn't even pretend to care.
TLDR, I'm glad to see someone being sceptical. Just cos they've accepted one fantasy concept doesn't mean that anything and everything anyone claims to see if automatically real. Even fantasy worlds have insane people.Yes, I find Dany's skepticism completely understandable. Having to adjust your beliefs due to new evidence does not mean you should reduce your standards of evidence for every other thing. Having to accept one thing beyond our natural-supernatural divide in a fantasy world just makes that divide different for that world. By existing, dragons become natural, that still leaves necromancing blue-eyed ice monsters in the supernatural.
- how couldn't the rest of DT's fleet could get ambushed in plain daylight without them knowing or anything.They are unsullied, they don't know shit about naval tactics. They just land and go capture that fortress, what could possibly happen to these boats...
- looking at the westeros map, how could the "new" ironborn fleet get to king's landing, then back to casterly rock (literally at the opposite side of westeros) in time to destroy a fleet that came from Dragonstone (supposedly ?) but left much earlier ?This didn't have to be the whole ironbord fleet, just a number of ships that may or may not have been patroling around Casterly Rock just in case.
- the braavosi Iron Bank is meant to despise slavery, yet they seem to refer to it as a business of theirs ?? perhaps they're simply luring Cersei in a trap or something, maybe they'll finance Daenerys' invasion, which wouldn't be the weirdest thing to happen in the show.I don't know if they are indeed supposed to despise slavery, sure they are Braavosi, but after all money is the only thing they care about IMO.
- how can the lannister army be powerful enough to wipe the reachmen after fighting the North, the Riverlands, and some other foes?Pycelle once said to Tywin: "You have built the stongest house". Also, they didn't really lose that many soldiers in the siege of Riverrun.
One thing I find very worrying is the nature of the Night King and White Walkers as antagonists. It appears GoT is just moving towards a classic good & evil struggle. What are the motivations of the Night King? Death and destruction for their own sake are just boring and old-fashioned to me now.I don't think you have to worry about it, they clearly (well, "clearly") have a purpose other than just wiping out everything living like in "Walking dead". After all, they have let the night's watch guy from S1E1 go away, and they also build strange ornaments from stones and bodies. Those are good signs for me that there's more than them just wanting to wreck shit up.
Oh my god he did the sensible thing if a dragon is coming at you! What would ducking have done? Why would he have only ducked? LOL. "He should have reacted but not in a way that would have saved his life!"visitors can't see pics , please register or login
This didn't have to be the whole ironbord fleet, just a number of ships that may or may not have been patroling around Casterly Rock just in case.
Dunno, I kinda saw the admiral ship, unless there are several ones, this means Euron is able to teleport his entire armada across the continent, or to have Jaime becoming a mastermind able to predict all moves from DT. Oh and don't get me started on how he managed to build a freaking armada from the scratch, in that time.
I don't know if they are indeed supposed to despise slavery, sure they are Braavosi, but after all money is the only thing they care about IMO.Pycelle once said to Tywin: "You have built the stongest house".
Yea, that makes sense aswell. Not like he could look any shadier tbh.
Also, they didn't really lose that many soldiers in the siege of Riverrun.
They were short on food, money, and had waged a devastating war against the North. And again, the Reachmen had a freaking castle, filled with wealth (ability to get food to last for months). And even if it wasn't their forte, according to Olenna, they still should've had way more bannermen and soldiers than the lannisters, or at least, enough to put up a fight (according to the lore).
I also should add DT has at her disposal one of the greatest spy network on Westeros, and that the populace from KL was literally cheering at Cersei, despite the fact she blew up the holy septry, and killed thousands of innocents from her own city. I think they're rushing it like crazy, it's quite obvious with the length of the battle scenes, and the length of the remaining seasons.
Like Xant, I think the way they've made DT lose most of its army almost looks like fan-service :Yeah like I wrote a year ago:
ep 1 : oh boi, Cersei is done.
ep 2 : oh well, their fleet is gone, I guess it's to make things a little bit fair.
ep 3 : ok, plz.
And with the trailer for ep 4, I can almost bet two things will happen (haven't watched anything but trailers) :(click to show/hide)
Which was something to look forward to, once upon a time...
But it's Daenerys, so she's been piled every advantage possible, while Westeros is massively divided and should have almost no proper armies left after all the slaughter.
Bolton had six thousand men at Winterfell, 90+% of them died, Jon had three thousand men, 95+% of them died (but I guess some will come back alive because they speak as if the wildlings are still a force, maybe they were busy with something more important than the massive battle and didn't take part)...
Meanwhile Daenerys has what, a hundred thousand+ of mounted Dothraki, 10000 Unsullied (finest infantry in the world, also notice how they had to give her the finest cavalry in the world and the finest infantry in the world, otherwise she wouldn't be Daenerys Mary Sueborn), whatever assorted troops she's gathered from the conquered cities ("vast horde of freed men" the books say), and now the pirate army led by the lesbian pirate queen. Oh, not to forget three dragons that take her commands perfectly all of a sudden and are for all intents and purposes invincible and also make castles useless. She has a literally unbeatable army on paper, it's like a 10 year old boy wrote fanfiction about his favorite character.
Gee, I wonder how that fucking conquest will go. Wild guess, Daenerys has another Daenerys Is Triumphant moment. They'll need to get unbelievably convoluted to give her even the smallest challenge, never mind an actual threat. Robb Stark gave the entire united rest-of-Westeros serious trouble with 20k men...
At 3:22 they kill a dragon with a ballista
And we're supposed to believe a fucking ballista is the secret weapon against dragons? Wtf?
At 3:22 they kill a dragon with a ballistaOk? ... And? You're aware this is a different setting, right? And that dragons don't really exist, and that movie isn't a documentary?(click to show/hide)
Ok? ... And? You're aware this is a different setting, right? And that dragons don't really exist, and that movie isn't a documentary?GoT is a documentary?
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7. Who gets to kill the Mountain if the Hound is in the North?
a woman, no doubtAgree, Robb Stark and many other characters died because of women, wouldn't be surprised if poor Mountain would make the same mistake and fall in love with Cercei and die trying to protect her, yet knowing she would never love him vack, oooh...
Agree, Robb Stark and many other characters died because of women, wouldn't be surprised if poor Mountain would make the same mistake and fall in love with Cercei and die trying to protect her, yet knowing she would never love him vack, oooh...
They are both fantasy worlds neither one of them are a "documentary" but you find it more incredulous that a ballista is being used as a dragon killer in your precious GoT and not in Reign of Fire or vice versa? And by the way the dragons in both GoT and RoF look very similar in size and appearance and I actually think RoF are better as it was made in 2002.Out of interest, have you ever taken an IQ test? I find it difficult to differentiate between the 80 IQ and 100 IQ people, and I was wondering which you're closer to.
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I'm willing to believe that a ballista could kill a dragon. There were dragons before in GOT and they managed to mop them up somehow, to the point where everyone thought they were extinct.If ballistas are all it takes to kill dragons, three dragons wouldn't have let the Targaryens conquer Westeros. Either that, or the Westerosi are retarded. The whole introduction of it is weird, like they had a secret nuke program and then the maester proudly goes........ "BEHOLD! A FUCKING BALLISTA!"
And hitting a fast-moving, flying target with a ballista isn't a trivial thing.
Finally, I'm not up-to-speed with all the ins and outs of GOT dragon lore, but her dragons are still young right? Or would they be considered full-grown already? It's a fairly common fantasy convention for dragons to be long-lived and grow gradually larger and stronger throughout their entire lives, whilst her dragons are 6/7 years old?
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Maybe the demonstration was to stop them shitting themselves by pretending it'll work. Morale etc.And that black arrow was fired from a normal bow not even a ballista.
Big daddy dragon had magic scales when he was alive, and you'd probably never get the chance to fire at the dragons as a stationary target on the battlefield, certainly not at a controlled range. Kinda like the 'longbow' tests that fire at point-blank range at a flat piece of tinfoil and conclude they can pierce any plate from any range.
I'm just saying against baby dragons as a one-off, I would believe a lucky ballista shot at decently close range could take one down. At least that wouldn't be as much of a cop-out as a character nobody ever heard of turning up out of nowhere and gunning down the ultimate dragon with a black arrow (I'm looking at you Tolkein).
How do we know this isn't the very first ballista ever invented in Westeros? Have they been seen before on the show or mentioned in the books? It's quite possible that they simply had no ranged weapon strong enough to pierce a dragons' scales/skull until we saw Qyburn's demonstration. You act as though GoT is expected to have identical technology as we did during the medieval era, yet they have stuff we didn't and perhaps vice versa.You mean how do you know. I know because I know the lore.
Maybe the demonstration was to stop them shitting themselves by pretending it'll work. Morale etc.
Big daddy dragon had magic scales when he was alive, and you'd probably never get the chance to fire at the dragons as a stationary target on the battlefield, certainly not at a controlled range. Kinda like the 'longbow' tests that fire at point-blank range at a flat piece of tinfoil and conclude they can pierce any plate from any range.
I'm just saying against baby dragons as a one-off, I would believe a lucky ballista shot at decently close range could take one down. At least that wouldn't be as much of a cop-out as a character nobody ever heard of turning up out of nowhere and gunning down the ultimate dragon with a black arrow (I'm looking at you Tolkein).
I mean - imagine this in a realistic medieval world where they see a dragon for the first time. I imagine they'd bring out a ballista straight away.
You mean how do you know. I know because I know the lore.
I agree here however, I think the situation presently in Westeros is that there is limited siege technology. Cersei is just having Qyburn (however his name is spelled) make them. The only 3 trebuchets spoken about that we know exist are the three whores in kings landing built for the defense in the battle of the blackwater that I recall.
"Princess Rhaenys arrived on her dragon, Meleys, but Criston's men attacked the dragon with scorpions, longbows and crossbows in the battle at Rook's Rest in 129 AC.[1]"
"Princess Rhaenys arrived on her dragon, Meleys, but Criston's men attacked the dragon with scorpions, longbows and crossbows in the battle at Rook's Rest in 129 AC.[1]"
So a different army, at a different time had ballistae and knew to use them against dragons (if anyone knew how to kill dragons, it'd be the Targaryens). Perhaps Qyburn didn't "invent" the ballista, but merely re-discovered that it was strong enough to actually hurt a dragon and felt the need to show Cersei that they weren't helpless as they already had a dragon-slaying machine. Just because Targaryens knew to use them in the past doesn't mean that this would be common knowledge for the present-day Lannisters. And let's not forget, this is from the books, so who even knows if it holds true for the show.Also in that scenario the scorpion didn't kill her dragon the other 2 dragons from the side she was rebelling against did, her dragon and the smaller of the other two died in the fight.
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Also E04 leaked and how bout dem last 20 minutes, jeez.
One of my favourite underrated moments in Game of Thrones was in season 1 when it was alternating between Robert Baratheon/Ned Stark and Daenarys/Dothraki.I could not remember this scene so I tried to find it, it is actually a conversation between Cersei and Robert where he explains the Dothraki problem. These type of scenes make me remember how great the first few books, and in extension, the first few seasons were.
In the Daenarys arc the conversations were all about how the Dothraki would probably win a pitched battle out in the field, but if the Westerosi are in any way intelligent they'll just sit their men behind stone walls and the Dothraki won't be able to achieve anything. Then it cuts back to Ned Stark and Baratheon's saying "Of course if they come over we'll have to face them in open battle" (cue *cringe* what a terrible king and strategist) but then Ned questions it and Baratheon explains his position and you suddenly realise that he's right and everyone else was wrong. That moment totally won me over with Robert Baratheon's character, and the writing of the show in general - even smart people in the show can be wrong or not see the big picture.
Also, I have always been hoping to see the Dothraki get rekt by superior Westerosi military tradition and armour, but we probably will not.I think we will.
Oh yeah I like littlefinger obviously but I don't feel like he'd support starks>targaryens just because he's horny. Also like someone said earlier, what the fuck is he even doing, he's just hanging around in Winterfell, not exactly ambitious like the character is portrayed to be.
So who do you guys root for? For myself, it's the lannisters. I don't like any characters that are on the side opposing them. And I genuinely think Tyrion will switch sides in some dramatic moment. It felt like he suddenly became a nationalist or something on the battlefield when the horse rapist said "Your people can't fight" and he saw them getting slaughtered.I don't really root for any side, I just root for the characters that I like.
The lannister army should be completely depleted nowHow so? It was just a small portion of Lannister forces, a caravan. Remember, all the gold got to King's Landing safely.
How so? It was just a small portion of Lannister forces, a caravan. Remember, all the gold got to King's Landing safely.
So who do you guys root for? For myself, it's the lannisters.
EDIT: Oh yeah I like littlefinger obviously but I don't feel like he'd support starks>targaryens just because he's horny.
When Jaimed started his run at Queen Mary Sue I was internally cheering. Suicidally couch charging stirs something deep within my loins, probably french racial memory.
I could not remember this scene so I tried to find it, it is actually a conversation between Cersei and Robert where he explains the Dothraki problem. These type of scenes make me remember how great the first few books, and in extension, the first few seasons were.Another thing I liked about this scene is that it proved everyone wrong about Robert -- too often character's opinions of other characters is really the Voice of The Writer, and 100% accurate.(click to show/hide)
Damn, what an episode. It is hard to remember anything past the final battle, but what I also really liked is all the Starks coming together. They all have had crazy lengthy and sometimes boring story arcs, but now that they are coming back together, each in their final badass form, I see that the arcs had their purpose.Yeah,
Sansa Stark: Has mastered the resting bitch face.Well, Sophie said that Sansa is as good as Littlefinger at manipulating at this point. Hope we see some of it in the near future. Like manipulating someone to bring her a dinner or something.
Well, Sophie said that Sansa is as good as Littlefinger at manipulating at this point.
lmao, have we seen any actual manipulating from her side? There was some in the Vale story arch iirc, but that shit was weak.She has manipulated you into thinking this way.
Well, Sophie said that Sansa is as good as Littlefinger at manipulating at this point. Hope we see some of it in the near future. Like manipulating someone to bring her a dinner or something.I hope that's just her fantasies, because she's the worst fucking manipulator ever. Who would a little bitchy angsty teen with the worst voice ever manipulate?
Sansa Stark: Has mastered the resting bitch face.Considering she began as the cringiest character on the show, current Sansa is quite a step up.
Considering she began as the cringiest character on the show, current Sansa is quite a step up.I don't know about that, her cringe factor has stayed very high in all the seasons.
Anyone understand the long face walk-off by Sansa after the Arya and Brienne fight?
Anyone understand the long face walk-off by Sansa after the Arya and Brienne fight?I think she was just thinking: "Damn, Arya has learned to fight like a real badass while I was just busy getting raped instead".
So who do you guys root for? For myself, it's the lannisters.
EDIT: Oh yeah I like littlefinger obviously
"saved Jon"She got 95% of Jon's army killed by not telling him about the reinforcements. It was pure luck/plot armor that she didn't GET JON KILLED. What she did was straight out of some plot to conspire to kill someone. In fact I just read a very similar account in a historical fiction book about Mongols, where one son of Genghis waits until the last moment to send the reinforcements in, hoping that another son dies in the frontal charge. Sansa's a fucking Mongol.
How? Can someone explain to me the logical reason of not telling him "errr if you wait a second the entire army of vale will be here to fight with us". She's a fucking moron, also I get they made her NOT say anything (no one is that retarded) just so they could have a epic rohan charge when no one expects it. It's simply shitty writing.
Its why I expect her to betray Jon soon. Hell I'm surprised there hasn't been a plot yet from her. Maybe she thought she wouldn't have to worry with littlefinger's army at her back and Jon weakened from the battle of the bastards. She was supposed to be Queen. If she doesn't betray Jon in some way, I'll be very surprised.As would I. The only way for her to be relevant at this stage is to betray her family. There's nothing she can do to their actual enemies.
As would I. The only way for her to be relevant at this stage is to betray her family. There's nothing she can do to their actual enemies.Or maybe somehow get control of the vale from litlefinger so she doesnt need to be queen of winterfell but of the vale to keep their alliance.
If she doesn't betray Jon in some way, I'll be very surprised.
As would I. The only way for her to be relevant at this stage is to betray her family. There's nothing she can do to their actual enemies.
Or maybe somehow get control of the vale from litlefinger so she doesnt need to be queen of winterfell but of the vale to keep their alliance.
Seeing how GoT prides itself on doing stuff that "people never see coming," and that everyone here seems to suspect that she is going to betray Jon, then wouldn't it be more likely that they go the simple route of having her remain faithful by supporting Jon and co.?
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Sigefrid loses right hand replaces it with useful arm sword.How is that useful? You can't fight with an "arm sword". Not if your enemy has an actual weapon.
How is that useful? You can't fight with an "arm sword". Not if your enemy has an actual weapon.I imagine if you are predominantly right handed you could make it work more than a golden fist. I mean the golden hand signifies they have the funds to find something that works to his advantage other than a golden fist?>
I imagine if you are predominantly right handed you could make it work more than a golden fist. I mean the golden hand signifies they have the funds to find something that works to his advantage other than a golden fist?>You can make it work in some cases, but why bother if you can have an actual sword in your left? Its far more effective.
Seeing how GoT prides itself on doing stuff that "people never see coming," and that everyone here seems to suspect that she is going to betray Jon, then wouldn't it be more likely that they go the simple route of having her remain faithful by supporting Jon and co.?
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You can make it work in some cases, but why bother if you can have an actual sword in your left? Its far more effective.
you could also just strap a shield onto your handless arm too and that would be a lot more useful than a sword hand or a gold handIn a battle shield would be useful, yes, but one doesn't exclude the other, you could just as well strap a shield on your golden hand, so that you still have something there when you don't need a shield.
You can make it work in some cases, but why bother if you can have an actual sword in your left? Its far more effective.why not sword arm and and a sword in left hand too? Some of the horse rapists were duel wielding those retarded looking scimitar swords they use so I imagine Jaime being a master swordsman could as well.
why not sword arm and and a sword in left hand too? Some of the horse rapists were duel wielding those retarded looking scimitar swords they use so I imagine Jaime being a master swordsman could as well.Because Jaime can't ride as well as the dothraki who live in a saddle, also because dual wielding on horseback is a stupid idea regardless, and because arm-sword would be fucking useless when you have no wrist movements, I mean come on mate.
I mean if we are listening to Euron maybe he only needs a finger on his right arm
Awfully hard to give a reach around without a wrist, though.
Well they don't look like swords that western knights used!!!
And btw, what exactly is retarded about the dothraki swords?
Because Jaime can't ride as well as the dothraki who live in a saddle, also because dual wielding on horseback is a stupid idea regardless, and because arm-sword would be fucking useless when you have no wrist movements, I mean come on mate.Like Tristan said then, strap a shield too it maybe one with an edge to it. Or have the arm sword with a buckler strapped to forearm so he could block and use the sword arm for stabbing.
You should ask why didn't Jaime attach a giant dildo to his arm for the affairs with Cercei, while you're at it.
And btw, what exactly is retarded about the dothraki swords?
Well they don't look like swords that western knights used!!!hope they have some sort of way to strap that thing to your wrist as it would seem easy to hook one of that blades corners with a longer weapon and pull it out of your hand.
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hope they have some sort of way to strap that thing to your wrist as it would seem easy to hook one of that blades corners with a longer weapon and pull it out of your hand.That's not a Dothraki sword, that's an Egyptian sword.
Like Tristan said then, strap a shield too it maybe one with an edge to it. Or have the arm sword with a buckler strapped to forearm so he could block and use the sword arm for stabbing.There are many things that could possibly get attached to Jaime's arm, the thing is they aren't any more useful than a golden hand. Why are you so obsessed with an "arm-sword"?
As far as the dothroki swords that's just my opinion mate. Is one not allowed to have differing opinions where you are from?I didn't think it was someone else's opinion, I know it was yours. What I asked was - what made you get this opinion about those swords? Or is one not allowed to ask about your someone's opinion where you're from? :wink: Retard...
hope they have some sort of way to strap that thing to your wrist as it would seem easy to hook one of that blades corners with a longer weapon and pull it out of your hand.Well, at this point I'm quite sure you're just trying to troll.
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Really all Jaime's hand needs to be is a fist, that way he can at least bludgeon people with it instead of karate-chopping his way through enemies like buzz lightyear.or even better a fist with a repeating xbow attached to it that opens up to be a hand cannon. :P
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It would also be beneficial to have a hand made of basically any metal besides gold, which is just unnecessarily heavy and soft, but he's gotta show off that he's rich somehow.
Well, at this point I'm quite sure you're just trying to troll.Nah I just keep making the mistake of replying to you.
I always pictured the dothraki as a mongol analogue, meaning largely horse archers. Apparently they turned them into hussars for the TV show, which is understandable, it's prob hard to find a lot of extras that can manage to convincingly shoot a bow from a horse. Whereas holding a kopesh or whatever the fuck that is while galloping is relatively simple.https://www.quora.com/Is-there-an-unfair-bias-among-%E2%80%9CA-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire%E2%80%9D-fans-against-the-Dothrakis-martial-prowess-relative-to-the-Westerosi-knights-Does-this-bias-belittle-military-forces-of-the-western-style-forgetting-that-the-Huns-wrecked-the-Roman-empire?share=1#!n=24
I always pictured the dothraki as a mongol analogue, meaning largely horse archers. Apparently they turned them into hussars for the TV show, which is understandable, it's prob hard to find a lot of extras that can manage to convincingly shoot a bow from a horse. Whereas holding a kopesh or whatever the fuck that is while galloping is relatively simple.They're supposed to be Mongol-lite, at least when it comes to weaponry. On the show they say the Dothraki learn how to shoot a bow from horseback at the age of four. In the battle we saw two guys shoot bows, almost certainly for the reasons you stated
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The New Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 29 says that "Employed against the Mongol invaders of Europe, knightly warfare failed even more disastrously for the Poles at the Battle of Legnica and the Hungarians at the Battle of Mohi in 1241. Feudal Europe was saved from sharing the fate of China and Muscovy not by its tactical prowess but by the unexpected death of the Mongols' supreme ruler, Ögedei, and the subsequent eastward retreat of his armies."[40]
That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.but they werent Dothrakis so, or more specifically Dothraki only favor Mongols in looks.
"Didn't fare well against mid-European armies", ok buddy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Legnica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mohi
but they werent Dothrakis so, or more specifically Dothraki only favor Mongols in looks.I wasn't talking about Dothrakis, and Dothraki look nothing like Mongols, in equipment or actual appearance.
I wasn't talking about Dothrakis, and Dothraki look nothing like Mongols, in equipment or actual appearance.well according to one of those posters GRRM wrote them to be predominately horse archers.
well according to one of those posters GRRM wrote them to be predominately horse archers.Being a horse archer doesn't make you a Mongol, and they're clearly not predominantly horse archers on the show, despite the lore.
How long till Euron+Cersei are dead and everyone else acts like cucks and bows down to the Blonde Dragon Whore?2 more episodes.
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I think more time has passed than you would think.He can't have been gone for more than a few weeks or the timelines don't make sense.
I also agree about the Tarlys damn shame. Dickon had some great scenes.
Rickon?.... Dickon.... *bursts out laughing*
How much cleaner a death can you get than being instantly turned to ashes by a dragon? Any other death would've been more painful and lasted longer.(click to show/hide)
yet I wonder how a leader being absent for a few weeks is something causing unrest, especially when their lives are at stake."We're going to cause a possible civil war because we haven't seen Jon for a few weeks, even though all of humanity faces possible annihilation and we know we're against supernatural undead that we can't defeat without the help of the people who Jon is talking to"
The civil war would make more sense if Sansa was fanning the flames more but perhaps the scene with Littlefinger meeting a couple of them was supposed to mean that's what he was doing.I'm pretty sure the Littlefinger scenes were just for Arya's benefit and he wasn't actually conspiring with them. Wouldn't make sense for him to lead her to his actual co-conspirators.
Still though yeah its stupid as hell. And why didn't Jon tell anyone in Winterfell he was heading to the wall and was back in the North? Maybe grab some soldiers or have them meet them at the wall with a raven message?
The lords getting angtsy that Jon is gone talking to another leader at all in a time where Cersei and Dany are both doing shit along with the white walkers threat is ridiculous and convoluted without something else to make it clear why its happening. It just seems like they're upset he went south at all rather than anything concrete.
I'm pretty sure the Littlefinger scenes were just for Arya's benefit and he wasn't actually conspiring with them. Wouldn't make sense for him to lead her to his actual co-conspirators.
And why didn't Jon tell anyone in Winterfell he was heading to the wall and was back in the North? Maybe grab some soldiers or have them meet them at the wall with a raven message?
At least littlefinger is getting some screen time despite the lack of real reasons for the lords being upset at Jon and wanting Sansa to be Queen instead.
Exactly what I was thinking... at least stop by to see your long-thought-dead sister and brother. :lol:
I'm just gonna assume that the writers didn't want to dilute the motley crew they're sending north of the wall with a bunch of extras... although for the threat to be perceived as real you know they're gonna need someone disposable. Maybe this'll be the end for the guys from the brotherhood (seriously, what was their plan anyways)?
Also, does anyone else think that this idea is just straight up retarded (apart from how risky and unlikely to work it is without some sort of deus ex machina)? How do they even know that a wight will still be animated once they get it out of the North? Perhaps the Night's King magic has a limited range and you can't simply bring a frozen corpse into the warm south and expect it to still be an ice zombie. Anyways, I'm betting on them getting screwed and Benjen comes riding up to save the day (cuz somehow one mounted half-dead ice zombie is better than an entire horde of fully-dead ice zombies). That, or some Northerners find out about Jon's escapades and go north of the wall to rescue him, they show up at the last second to save him, then when they all get back to Winterfell Sansa ridicules him for his stupid failure of an idea that cost many men their lives, etc., Jon is a bad ruler, etc., she takes over, littlefinger grins menacingly, etc.
"We need to capture a wight alive to set up an armistice!"Or the why didn't they just fly the ring into Mordor with Gandalfs eagle buddies and drop it into MT Doom scenario. Couldn't Drogon have swooped down and grabbed a few in each claw and flew back with them to Dragonstone leaving everyone else safe and warm?
"Ok, that sounds really dumb, but whatever, I think we have some convicted murderers who might accept to try a suicide mission in exchange for a pardon. Let's send a few of them off and see if-"
"NO! THE KING OF THE NORTH AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE FREE FOLK MUST PERSONALLY LEAD THE RAID!"
"Uh, ok, morale is important, must lead from the front, I get it. We'll assemble a few hundred of our best knights and-"
"NO! THEY WILL GO WITH THESE FIVE RANDOM HOBOS WE PICKED UP ALONG THE WAY!"
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"... ON FOOT!"
Or the why didn't they just fly the ring into Mordor with Gandalfs eagle buddies and drop it into MT Doom scenario. Couldn't Drogon have swooped down and grabbed a few in each claw and flew back with them to Dragonstone leaving everyone else safe and warm?
This entire contrived sub-plot is to give Sansa and Littlefinger something to do in the story. Like I said earlier in the thread, Sansa is completely irrelevant to the story unless she causes internal strife. So they have to create something retarded out of thin air to make her plot progress.
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visitors can't see pics , please register or loginYou care? You?! A literally who? A nofame bundle of sticks? You, who is even unknown to your parents, who abandoned you because you already were sucking dicks at age of 2? You, who literally all he is doing is to shitpost on a french tabletop roleplay discussion forum? You? I don't even want to begin with how hated you are in this world, like it gives even two fucks about you, or even one! A rat would literally eat you out of pity to get rid of you once and for all. I will literally slam your body back to oblivion, did you FUCKING LISTEN?
You care? You?! A literally who? A nofame bundle of sticks? You, who is even unknown to your parents, who abandoned you because you already were sucking dicks at age of 2? You, who literally all he is doing is to shitpost on a french tabletop roleplay discussion forum? You? I don't even want to begin with how hated you are in this world, like it gives even two fucks about you, or even one! A rat would literally eat you out of pity to get rid of you once and for all. I will literally slam your body back to oblivion, did you FUCKING LISTEN?
Next time, you better present yourself as the abomination you are!
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HBO released next week's episode in Spain by accident. Fully in english, HD, all that. Can prob easily find a torrent if you give a shit. Apparently the plot is even more stupid and nonsensical than the previous one.
Thoros of Myr - Seems unlikely. He doesn't get a whole lot of screen time but he is one of those "mysterious" spell casters who can bring people back from the dead.They NEED to get rid of people who can bring others back to life, or death has no meaning on the show. Something will happen either to Melisandre or her ability to resurrect, too.
Well this episode answers the "who's going to be the third dragon rider" question
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Yeah the whole rez thing seems off even in the books. I mean if resurrection was a thing I am pretty sure the earlier Targaryns would have known or at least heard of it and if so why wasn't Baeler Breakspear given a rez after his brother accidentally killed him. He was supposed to be an honorable man and was next in line for the throne after his father Daemon.
If that's the last we saw of Benjen, that was the worst scene in the history of TV shows.(click to show/hide)
http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html
So I guess "Dunk and Egg" and "Roberts Rebellion" are off the table for a spin off series and the spin offs will be prequels that do not involve any current characters and some will probably not be set in Westeros. Welp any interest I had in a spin off is gone now.
"We're not doing Dunk & Egg. Eventually, sure, I'd love that, and so would many of you. But I've only written and published three novellas to date, and there are at least seven or eight or ten more I want to write. We all know how slow I am, and how fast a television show can move. I don't want to repeat what happened with GAME OF THRONES itself, where the show gets ahead of the books."The three are The hedge Knight, Sworn Sword and Mystery Knight right? I am in the middle of The Mystery Knight and none of the three seem to be connected, they have each had there own story in different places with different people, the only thing that carried over was Dunk and Egg. They could do a mini series type of thing each with their own story and stop. And if in the future he finishes the other 7 or even another 3 do another mini series if the first was successful.
I agree with his reasoning tbh. He's absolutely right.
HBO released next week's episode in Spain by accident. Fully in english, HD, all that. Can prob easily find a torrent if you give a shit. Apparently the plot is even more stupid and nonsensical than the previous one.
So ist possibel to watch? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
PS: I think mister Friendzone will die
PS: I think mister Friendzone will die
Everytime some GoT video appears in my YT recommended, I can't help but watch it. The downhill on the writing is eye catching really. I get randomly angry because a franchise I fanboyed for became a brazilian korean tv show, and it became even more frequent in the recent weeks. Every conversation in season 1 is legendary. Every dialogue gives you chills. Seriously, now we are only left with feminism and warp technology.
Everytime some GoT video appears in my YT recommended, I can't help but watch it. The downhill on the writing is eye catching really. I get randomly angry because a franchise I fanboyed for became a brazilian korean tv show, and it became even more frequent in the recent weeks. Every conversation in season 1 is legendary. Every dialogue gives you chills. Seriously, now we are only left with feminism and warp technology.
I loved the dialogues back then. And while some characters still have some nice lines (Hound/Davos), it got worse overall. Same goes for events, and character depth.
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Just look how shitty this scene is.
The thing that ticks me off the most is that they go out on a mission into permawinter without headwear.
Quite ironically, those who took it didn't end up so well. Even better how Jon manages not to die after he went into frozen waters, and then proceeded to ride back to the wall. Sure, you could get the "fire wight" explanation, but this is book-only it seems.http://uproxx.com/tv/game-of-thrones-fire-wights/
They should've never went for less than 10 episodes.
http://uproxx.com/tv/game-of-thrones-fire-wights/
Seems like it's not book-only.
They should've never went for less than 10 episodes.
This is so good, considering House Mormont's words are "Here We Stand"
The thing that ticks me off the most is that they go out on a mission into permawinter without headwear.
Well, here you have it. The genius behind it all: https://youtu.be/yx9dRL1BCCQ?t=235
Why was there just 1 undead bear? It almost seemed like 2 since the bear was so far away and behind the first guy then teleported to his side. Should have those in the army too really.
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I for one just try not to think about anything in this show anymore. Similar to a marvel movie I watch the episode once just for the eye candy and block out all the shitty conversations and obvious plot holes as best as I can. That said, you can only block out so much of those winterfell scenes with arya/sansa. Dear god those were glaringly awful. Even after spending so much precious screen time there I still have no idea what they're even trying to convey is happening between them, or what littlefinger is supposedly scheming.
Well, here you have it. The genius behind it all: https://youtu.be/yx9dRL1BCCQ?t=235
Literally just them going "WE WANT A POLAR BEAR!!!!!!!! WE WANT ONE!!!!!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! JUST GIVE US A ZOMBIE POLAR BEAR!!!"
They don't give a fuck about the consistency or the logic behind it all.
I bet Daenerys burning those Tyrell dudes alive was the same. "WE WANT TO SEE A DRAGON BURN SOMEONE AS AN EXECUTION!!! WE WANT IT!!!"
Fucked up how ... that other kid is wielding some retarded hammer like it doesnt weigh shit, maybe people in the GoT universe just simply are super humans.Crpg must be of subset of GOT then.
Crpg must be of subset of GOT then.
"Army formed of many races.."
Dropped.
You're just an anti-giant biggot. In death there are no cultural or racial differences. Embrace true diversity, you racist.
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As Taylor tells Variety, the Thrones team has been focusing on the “emotional experience” of Snow-cean’s Seven’s misguided mission rather than the particulars of how it unfolds.
The Jaime vids led me to the video where he and Mace confronts the high sparrow. Was there an explanation as to why Mace wore woolen "chainmail"? It can't possibly be because of budget since all the soldiers are equipped.That was on purpose. All the footsoldiers in the army had proper mail. The fake "mail" was because none of his armor was functional, it was all just for show, because the dude wasn't a fighter.
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That was on purpose. All the footsoldiers in the army had proper mail. The fake "mail" was because none of his armor was functional, it was all just for show, because the dude wasn't a fighter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ShxxG1VSto&t=194sMust be some kind of a "Tyrell officers and leaders are all fops that care more about comfort than protection" thing.
Look at 3:41, that officer has woolen armor aswell.
Must be some kind of a "Tyrell officers and leaders are all fops that care more about comfort than protection" thing.
Petyr's dead, house starkaryen confirmed, dragonbowl confirmed, cleganebowl is more or less confirmed. Alright, see you in two years.lol yeah I heard season 8 might not premiere for 18 months.
Greatest show on television. Best season yet.
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The way Winterfell was handled was...... dumb.
So we basically had 7 episodes of filler, fake drama in Winterfell. For no reason. They didn't get any new evidence on Littlefinger, all they had was 3 teens claiming he did those things and everyone was still cool with LF being murdered. So why not do it in episode 1? Why have all this elaborate fakery?
Well, no reason of course. It was just D&D wanting to take the audience on an emotional rollercoaster even though it makes no sense. God bless D&D
They didn't get any new evidence on Littlefinger, all they had was 3 teens claiming he did those things and everyone was still cool with LF being murdered. So why not do it in episode 1? Why have all this elaborate fakery?It wasn't about evidence, what are you on about? They didn't know the Littlefinger's role in all of the events that took place, they know it now that Bran told them.
Yeah the guy that can literally see events in the past isn't a good enough source eh Xant?I would explain why he isn't a good source if you had the intelligence to understand the explanation.
How fucking retarded are you mate.
It wasn't about evidence, what are you on about? They didn't know the Littlefinger's role in all of the events that took place, they know it now that Bran told them.Yes exactly, it wasn't about the evidence, Bran didn't acquire any abilities he didn't already have, he already knew Littlefinger did it, so why would he wait until episode 7 to tell Sansa and Arya?
As for why everyone took their words without any proof -
1) They are Starks and their lords.
2) It all makes sense.
3) Nobody likes Littlefinger anyway.
Able to physically see the events take place around him by going back in time.Holy shit you're even more retarded than I thought. Who wondered how Bran knew Littlefinger was behind it? Your reading comprehension is worse than what most seven year olds possess.
HOW DID HE KNOW?!?!??!
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how come the dwarf looked so grumpy about the boatsex? Was he really just being the hand to try to get in her panties?He betrayed Daenerys. That's why he was grumpy. Told Cersei to lie to her about what she'll do. He cares about his family too much after all.
What really happened in the meeting between Tyerion and Cersi? I bet it was like "sis I'ma tap that dragon queen ass then be back to the Lanisters side" now hes all, damn gotta kill the king of the north.
Ayra/Sansa feud just to have the audience thinking they'd go against each other but then they kill Littlefinger instead without showing any reason for it. Awful.. yeah it was probably sansa figuring it out with bran's help but nothing to illustrate that before the scene occurred. Then they make up with no problems. Just.. bad. Wouldn't have taken much to try and give more than arya giving sansa the knife in the previous episode to give the possibility they'll work together to try and fuel theories for both sides. Wouldn't have cared as much if they hadn't spent so much time on it to try and "scare" the audience into thinking they'd kill each other.Exactly, it was just a bunch of retarded filler scenes done for no reason other than to keep the audience "scared."
You guys should stop watching. It seems like you really don't like it :lol:
Yeah I bet George RR totally didn't intend for a battle between the living and the dead.
So, how would white walkers get over the wall if there was not retarded expedition in previous episode? :rolleyes:
For me, the only redeemable things from the finale were that:add to that list the ice dragon was cool and it didnt melt the wall but was more like a harder force crumbling a weaker one.
A) littlefinger at least went out in a believable manner... the man was so cunning and careful that the only way to catch him is to be some omnipresent being that can just watch him commit his various villainous acts. granted, the show wants us to believe that it was mostly sansa/arya's "clever plotting" during this entire season that led to it, i'd rather just believe that off-screen brann managed to convince all the lords of the north of his powers ("ask me a question about your past that i shouldn't know and ill give you the answer" - that sort of thing) and then had sansa call up that meeting to have arya end him.
B) jaime, who is probably the last main character i like, finally left cersei to do "what is right." it was a kind of a cliche decision at this point to have the only likable guy on the lannister side (apart from bronn, who for all we know may just pop up outa nowhere next season and tag along with him) team up with the heroes, but to be fair she has put him in shitty positions like this before and he's still stood by her side all this time. excited to see what he ends up accomplishing by joining the good guys seeing how he's not much of a fighter himself and apparently brought along no help.
C) cersei apparently deceiving tyrion is kinda cool i guess, since he's been noticeably slacking lately it would have been really weird if he somehow convinced the most evil person alive (who also hates him quite a bit) to join up with him and the other good guys. although, seeing how we don't know what even went down in that meeting we don't know if there were some secret terms that they agreed to that kinda make this a moot point.
D) lol i though there were more things on this list but i guess not. classic d&d writing just made everything so "basic."
add to that list the ice dragon was cool and it didnt melt the wall but was more like a harder force crumbling a weaker one.
show us on the doll where the bad man touched you james
The thing about this show is that it isn't actually bad in the larger scope of TV shows. But it's become a game of waiting for events we can all predict are coming. There's zero upsets and unexpected stuff happening, something that would flip the story on it's head at least a little bit. It's fan servicy as fuck. Compared to previous seasons, where the train was derailing at several points, it's now going full speed smooth straight towards that end fight between good and bad. It's almost like it's not the same show.
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Oh btw, why is Jon's real name Aegon? Doesn't Rhaegar already have a son called Aegon?yeah in the books it was young griff being raised by Jon Connington who was using Griff as an alias hence the young Griif and supported by Varys
cRPG men - "While the show is still quite entertaining, the quality of writing has declined in recent seasons, here are several examples."
James - "In my opinion you are wrong!!"(click to show/hide)
Think again. All the talk about Dani possibly still be able to get pregnant and then the sex scene.
also what you guys think is going to come out of danis vagena?
a black haired manlet just like his father?
a monstrosity in the form of her mother?
an abominational mix of the two above?
some other reptile, maybe a gecko lizard this time?
Jon will die now, because his legacy will live on in the form of his offspring, hence "bittersweet ending." He'll make some heroic sacrifice, probably taking down the Night King in some suicidal charge.
Don't forget, he was brought back "for a reason." I wouldn't be surprised if after killing the night king he starts glowing and evaporating while everyone gets all teary-eyed and he's just like "it's alright, this was my task in life, with it completed I must return to the lord of light's side." *fades away into nothingness, dany hugs her baby manlet close and cries*like how Forthog fade glows out here?
How much more cliche could it get?
If the authors have any educational responsibility left, the kid will have a bonus chromosome. Same for the other queen.
whats the evidence for bran being the wraith king? and what is he going to do with that power? Take the throne? That would be wihcked smaht(click to show/hide)
Rip sweet prince, you will be missed
If the authors have any educational responsibility left, the kid will have a bonus chromosome. Same for the other queen.
Cersei clearly raped her Qyburn/Frankenstein's monster Clegane bodyguard.visitors can't see pics , please register or login
have any of you played the GOT mod for warband?
this is amazing lol
Spoiled Game of Thrones I thinkspoiler the night king came to the planet earth on the night flyer